@Felton321, if you don't know who the "boat people" are then u haven't been to China. They are the last pioneers, because they don't have to pay shit for taxes to the governement nor do they have an "fixed address" The pigs(cops) would call these people "N.F.A." which stands for "NO FIXED ADDRESS" because they live on their boats! Government doesn't like that they want to know where the fuck you are at any given moment.
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Everytime I read this kind of comment between Chinese people. It just make me sad. If we have to be a strong nation - please stop killing each other first. Otherwise all the foreigner look at us like we are bunch of monkeys - and in fact the rest of the world are.
Just chip in what I know - Cantonese is in fact an ancient language, it was spoken by the barberian in the south (it was consider Chinese at that time).
@Daucuscarotathemovie, Yeah I agree if we can stop the in-fighting among the many ehtnic groups within China we wouldn't have problems. Of course an fully united China would be a HUGE threat to other nations...
no worry, many chinese cities especially cantonese cities are being hongkonglized.
shenzhen is the most outstanding example, u will find a familiar feeling in shenzhen as in hongkong, cuz you will find that many things in shenzhen silimar to hongkong's cuz many honkers live, holiday and run business there, so bring HK lifestyle there.
if considered by the principle of european languages, Cantonese and Mandarin are indeed linguistically different enough to be separate languages . And cantonese is in someways more powerful and influential than mandarin, some chinglish origining from cantonese gets more attention. and for many years, cantonese pop, art and culture is more inflential and representative internationally. even today, hong kong culture is still the prototype and leader of chinese world.
im saying chinese, not english. we (hk) just have better chinese quality, 複製 is sure better than 克隆, 克隆 is totally a non-meaningful chinese vocab, ie. directly pronouncingly translated from english word 'clone' wtf!. i agree a number of people living in the mainland that can speak better English than me. but so what, what i care is chinese. we hkers are the best chinese. and does 馬殺雞 have chinese meaning, or just another example of directly pronouncing translation?
馬殺雞 is translated by you,cantonese-speaking Hong Kongers,OK?
複製 is sure better than 克隆? Is that so? Cloning is done by using nucleus from somatics cells and cytoplasm from germ cells, and there is no way that the newly-produced individual is an exact copy of the mother.
Cloning is a scientific term,which needs an exact definition. Thus, introducing such a new word like 克隆 into the Chinese language is not a bad idea.
what the frake. who cares about speaking better english on youtube or in the video? we are all chinese, and why are we doing this to each others?i dun think you are cooler than others just bc of your bilanguage. it makes me really sad while i saw this kind of comment. just enjoy the video and i miss HK as well =\ peace man
It doesn't matter which area/city is the capital of China, the most important thing is that China becomes a democratic country. By the way, Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco not in HK.
there re several names for HK ppl:(formally) hongkongese, hongkonger,(unformally) hongese or honkese.
and several names for HK:
(formally)Hong Kong, (unformally) SAR, Pearl of the Orient, Frog Island, Victoria...
and several descriptions for HK: south door of China, pearl of Chinese Dragon, golden-egg-laying goose, last bastion of unfettered capitalism, capital of chinese insulting words, capital of chinese mafia
well, Hongkong has the qualification to be a city state, singapore is an example! comparing with spanish and Portuguese, there is bigger difference between cantonese and mandarin, so why cant cantonese be a individual language? u must know that cantonese has much bigger influence than any other dialects of chinese!
Oh, no, how ignorant you are! The difference between Spanish and Portugese is difinitely way bigger than that between Mandarian and Cantonese, Spanish and Portugese are 2 different languages, idiot, while as you already said, cantonese is a only Chinese dialect! The influence of this dialect is because of the cantonese speaking ppl living abroad and the special history in Hongkong!
No, Cantonese and Mandarin are actually linguistically different enough to be separate languages and are considered as such. Dialects are mutually intelligible. But that's not the case with the so-called Chinese "dialects." A Cantonese speaker who has not learned Mandarin will not be able to understand it or figure it out by listening, and vice versa. The pronunciation and lexical vocab are the most drastic differences but grammar is also very different.
It totally depends on how you define language and dialects, which is actually an ongoing debate! But I don't think a Shanghainese speaker or Minnan hua speaker would be able to understand or figure out Mandarian if he had been separate from the mandarian-speaking environment for 100 years!
If Cantonese was a language, I would consider all these so-called dialects languages too! The dialects like Shanghai dialects, Zhejiang dialects,minnan hua etc. are too different for me to understand and I believe that their pronunciation and lexical vocab are drastically different too as well as their grammar!
They are indeed linguistically classified as separate languages. Take any language or anthropology course in any university and you'd be taught so. Chinese is a language family (Sinitic Language Family) with different languages. Cantonese is its own language and has its own dialects (toi-san-wa being a dialect of Cantonese, it's more or less intelligible with Standard Cantonese). You are absolutely right on this.
One big difference between Chinese languages and European languages is that all Chinese languages/dialects share the same writing systems,except for special characters created by Cantonese speakers and the Latin systems used by some Hokkien speakers.
In places like Hubei or Fujian,people from different county or village speak differently.
the "sharing" of the same writing system is all but forced. Think Latin and its vernaculars...no one actually talks like that in Rome. The Chinese writing system is currently based more or less on Mandarin because the people decided it. there isn't a drastic difference between formal spoken Mandarin and written Chinese. However, spoken Cantonese is, formal or not, so different one can't even identify it with written Chinese. It's way worse than the difference between Vulgar Latin and Latin.
It's just arrogant to me that people from Hongkong have to identify them as Hongkongneses instead of Chinese and to think Cantonese as a language, when it's in fact just a dialect like the ones spoken in other parts of China!
Cantonese is the official language of Hong Kong. It is different in status from other "dialects" in that it has the backing of an entire pop culture and media and literature and in fact, traditional culture (cantonese opera for example) and art behind it. Cantonese is around 2000 years old, Mandarin developed around 800 years ago. Cantonese is a much more conservative language in the Sinitic family. The cultural power of Cantonese is difficult to overcome even today 12 years after the Handover.
If all the provinces of China had been isolated from each other like HK for a hundred years, I guess they would today have their culture, media etc in their own languages/Dialects as well with the "dialects" being their official languages!
Actually today, all the different provinces still get their own culture and it would be really sad to see the different cultures disappear!
do you really think they have?for 6 years living in hongkong i've found most professional hongkongnes are not good in speaking english,besides they have english subject during their school years i believe.
I came from hong kong to canada in the year of 2000. I remember when i at the docks watching the new year fireworks... its amazing and the techknowlogy there is awsome.A cell phone comes out in every week =D
but HK can sign free trade agreements with China, Netherlands, France, and Malaysia... Just recently, HK-Indonesia signed a Free trade agreement. Cities can't do that... SARs can do that.
lmfao 6:05 that guy is really enjoying the race
HK is awesome
hmcnunes 8 months ago
great show
alothaimm 10 months ago
What a charming presenter!
Yoostoobz 11 months ago
what restaurant did they go to have dinner? I'd love to pick my own fish.
dennisbbb 1 year ago
@dennisbbb That restaurant is on Tang Lung street, near Times Square, in Causeway Bay. But I think it's closed now.
LegacyKillah 1 year ago
WAAAAA.....the Background music at 8:25 is NEPALI song called " Resham firi ri ".
entenn 2 years ago
I used to remember there used to be really good fresh seafood from the "boat people"
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
@Wolfsbane909 buddy wtf u talking about
Felton321 2 years ago
@Felton321, if you don't know who the "boat people" are then u haven't been to China. They are the last pioneers, because they don't have to pay shit for taxes to the governement nor do they have an "fixed address" The pigs(cops) would call these people "N.F.A." which stands for "NO FIXED ADDRESS" because they live on their boats! Government doesn't like that they want to know where the fuck you are at any given moment.
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
Love Hongkong :D
I will visit HK next month !!!
undercoverBLN 2 years ago
@undercoverBLN ill visit u too
Felton321 2 years ago
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Action11Heroine 2 years ago
Everytime I read this kind of comment between Chinese people. It just make me sad. If we have to be a strong nation - please stop killing each other first. Otherwise all the foreigner look at us like we are bunch of monkeys - and in fact the rest of the world are.
Just chip in what I know - Cantonese is in fact an ancient language, it was spoken by the barberian in the south (it was consider Chinese at that time).
DAUCUSCAROTATHEMOVIE 2 years ago 7
@DAUCUSCAROTATHEMOVIE mandarin is chinqa man languages
Felton321 2 years ago
@Daucuscarotathemovie, Yeah I agree if we can stop the in-fighting among the many ehtnic groups within China we wouldn't have problems. Of course an fully united China would be a HUGE threat to other nations...
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
no worry, many chinese cities especially cantonese cities are being hongkonglized.
shenzhen is the most outstanding example, u will find a familiar feeling in shenzhen as in hongkong, cuz you will find that many things in shenzhen silimar to hongkong's cuz many honkers live, holiday and run business there, so bring HK lifestyle there.
mapscraper 3 years ago
if considered by the principle of european languages, Cantonese and Mandarin are indeed linguistically different enough to be separate languages . And cantonese is in someways more powerful and influential than mandarin, some chinglish origining from cantonese gets more attention. and for many years, cantonese pop, art and culture is more inflential and representative internationally. even today, hong kong culture is still the prototype and leader of chinese world.
mapscraper 3 years ago
Except for the fact most Chinese people will not understand the Hong Kong culture unless it is expressed in Mandarin or with caption?
Also,there are so many English words in Hong Kong cantonese,definitely not the major way of introducing new words in Mandarin.
gongchang02 3 years ago
yawn!
Nsane111 3 years ago
香港可以有好多方面貢獻中國,舉例向中國輸出正確譯名同優秀詞彙,從而提高整體中文質素,舉例:數碼化(數字化),電腦(電子計算機),太空人(航天員),太空站(空間站),複製(克隆),影印(複印),埋單(買單),水準(水平),的士(出租車),巴士(公車),維珍尼亞(弗吉利亞),德州(得州),金馬倫(喀麥隆),疑例(疑似個案)......
*( )內為大陸之錯誤譯名同惡劣累贅詞彙.
mapscraper 3 years ago
in English please...
devil1230 3 years ago
I can give you so many opposite examples,just considering the number of people living in the mainland that can speak better English than you.
Should massage be translated as "馬殺雞" or "按摩"？複製 is better than 克隆？ Do you even know what cloning means in Biology?
gongchang02 3 years ago
im saying chinese, not english. we (hk) just have better chinese quality, 複製 is sure better than 克隆, 克隆 is totally a non-meaningful chinese vocab, ie. directly pronouncingly translated from english word 'clone' wtf!. i agree a number of people living in the mainland that can speak better English than me. but so what, what i care is chinese. we hkers are the best chinese. and does 馬殺雞 have chinese meaning, or just another example of directly pronouncing translation?
mapscraper 3 years ago
馬殺雞 is translated by you,cantonese-speaking Hong Kongers,OK?
複製 is sure better than 克隆? Is that so? Cloning is done by using nucleus from somatics cells and cytoplasm from germ cells, and there is no way that the newly-produced individual is an exact copy of the mother.
Cloning is a scientific term,which needs an exact definition. Thus, introducing such a new word like 克隆 into the Chinese language is not a bad idea.
gongchang02 3 years ago
I like the sound of cantonese esp, in HongKong Movies. But i know alot more Mandarin & its easyer for me.
MetalHeart8787 2 years ago
what the frake. who cares about speaking better english on youtube or in the video? we are all chinese, and why are we doing this to each others?i dun think you are cooler than others just bc of your bilanguage. it makes me really sad while i saw this kind of comment. just enjoy the video and i miss HK as well =\ peace man
ThaddeusDuBois 2 years ago
well let me sum up :
formally,internationally:
Hong Konger ,Hongkonger
Locally: Hong Kongese, Hongkongese
chinese: Hong Kong People
unformally: Hongese, Honkese, Honger , Honker,
Hongie, Honkie
temporarily: SAR man
mapscraper 3 years ago
yet i forgot to add that HK is as well the capital of Kungfu, with Bruce Lee as the ever most famous Chinese also Hongkongese!
HK should be the capital of china, not Peking! LOL
mapscraper 3 years ago
It doesn't matter which area/city is the capital of China, the most important thing is that China becomes a democratic country. By the way, Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco not in HK.
bubles0nskye 3 years ago
there re several names for HK ppl:(formally) hongkongese, hongkonger,(unformally) hongese or honkese.
and several names for HK:
(formally)Hong Kong, (unformally) SAR, Pearl of the Orient, Frog Island, Victoria...
and several descriptions for HK: south door of China, pearl of Chinese Dragon, golden-egg-laying goose, last bastion of unfettered capitalism, capital of chinese insulting words, capital of chinese mafia
mapscraper 3 years ago
Hong Kong rise up UK
bradcto 3 years ago
well, Hongkong has the qualification to be a city state, singapore is an example! comparing with spanish and Portuguese, there is bigger difference between cantonese and mandarin, so why cant cantonese be a individual language? u must know that cantonese has much bigger influence than any other dialects of chinese!
mapscraper 3 years ago
Oh, no, how ignorant you are! The difference between Spanish and Portugese is difinitely way bigger than that between Mandarian and Cantonese, Spanish and Portugese are 2 different languages, idiot, while as you already said, cantonese is a only Chinese dialect! The influence of this dialect is because of the cantonese speaking ppl living abroad and the special history in Hongkong!
allen0405 3 years ago
No, Cantonese and Mandarin are actually linguistically different enough to be separate languages and are considered as such. Dialects are mutually intelligible. But that's not the case with the so-called Chinese "dialects." A Cantonese speaker who has not learned Mandarin will not be able to understand it or figure it out by listening, and vice versa. The pronunciation and lexical vocab are the most drastic differences but grammar is also very different.
gariadara 3 years ago
It totally depends on how you define language and dialects, which is actually an ongoing debate! But I don't think a Shanghainese speaker or Minnan hua speaker would be able to understand or figure out Mandarian if he had been separate from the mandarian-speaking environment for 100 years!
allen0405 3 years ago
I'm defining language and dialect by the definitions of linguistics.
gariadara 3 years ago
If Cantonese was a language, I would consider all these so-called dialects languages too! The dialects like Shanghai dialects, Zhejiang dialects,minnan hua etc. are too different for me to understand and I believe that their pronunciation and lexical vocab are drastically different too as well as their grammar!
allen0405 3 years ago
They are indeed linguistically classified as separate languages. Take any language or anthropology course in any university and you'd be taught so. Chinese is a language family (Sinitic Language Family) with different languages. Cantonese is its own language and has its own dialects (toi-san-wa being a dialect of Cantonese, it's more or less intelligible with Standard Cantonese). You are absolutely right on this.
gariadara 3 years ago
There is no definite answer.
One big difference between Chinese languages and European languages is that all Chinese languages/dialects share the same writing systems,except for special characters created by Cantonese speakers and the Latin systems used by some Hokkien speakers.
In places like Hubei or Fujian,people from different county or village speak differently.
gongchang02 3 years ago
the "sharing" of the same writing system is all but forced. Think Latin and its vernaculars...no one actually talks like that in Rome. The Chinese writing system is currently based more or less on Mandarin because the people decided it. there isn't a drastic difference between formal spoken Mandarin and written Chinese. However, spoken Cantonese is, formal or not, so different one can't even identify it with written Chinese. It's way worse than the difference between Vulgar Latin and Latin.
gariadara 3 years ago
It's just arrogant to me that people from Hongkong have to identify them as Hongkongneses instead of Chinese and to think Cantonese as a language, when it's in fact just a dialect like the ones spoken in other parts of China!
allen0405 3 years ago
agreed. im canto, but i would never say im hong kongnese. Hong kong is China. im Chinese
jdiddy666 3 years ago
Cantonese is the official language of Hong Kong. It is different in status from other "dialects" in that it has the backing of an entire pop culture and media and literature and in fact, traditional culture (cantonese opera for example) and art behind it. Cantonese is around 2000 years old, Mandarin developed around 800 years ago. Cantonese is a much more conservative language in the Sinitic family. The cultural power of Cantonese is difficult to overcome even today 12 years after the Handover.
gariadara 3 years ago
If all the provinces of China had been isolated from each other like HK for a hundred years, I guess they would today have their culture, media etc in their own languages/Dialects as well with the "dialects" being their official languages!
Actually today, all the different provinces still get their own culture and it would be really sad to see the different cultures disappear!
allen0405 3 years ago
HK is techincally trying to become a city state heh
Deno278 3 years ago
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i would like to be ruled by UK, cuz they have clever brains and skills than those low IQ on stage today!
mapscraper 3 years ago
people in hk have the highest iq in the world actually... do your research
saundersm10 3 years ago 2
do you really think they have?for 6 years living in hongkong i've found most professional hongkongnes are not good in speaking english,besides they have english subject during their school years i believe.
bonbonmay782 3 years ago
go to any foreign country that dont have english as their first language. Do you tihnk they are going to speak fluent english?
saundersm10 3 years ago 2
u r the 1 has low iq
elvisyoung444 3 years ago
And I guess you are the same race as one of the those low IQ on stage today! Shame on you!
allen0405 3 years ago
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God Save the Queen and the Crown Colony of Hong Kong!!!!!!!!!! Fuck the HK SAR and Communist China, fucking commies!
asdf9jkl 3 years ago
i love hong kong imfrom hk aswell :)
Qunjin 3 years ago 2
I came from hong kong to canada in the year of 2000. I remember when i at the docks watching the new year fireworks... its amazing and the techknowlogy there is awsome.A cell phone comes out in every week =D
GetsugaD7 3 years ago 2
i live in Hong KOng
CindyLongHMMC 3 years ago 3
Hong Kong is not a country..
tltl0000 4 years ago 5
@tltl0000.
but Hong Kong, China sends it's own delegation to the G-20, Summer/Winter Olympics, APEC, WTO, etc..
Phead128 1 year ago
hong kong is my favorite country!!!
mapscraper 4 years ago
Hong Kong is a city, it is not a country, D A
tltl0000 4 years ago 5
u r always slave ruled by UK or by PRC hheha
elvisyoung444 3 years ago
we own by ourselves, not british, not chinese.
and feel shame you guys don't know nothing about asia and talk, especially UKcontrolsHK, you really are a cowboy.
sasanong 4 years ago 6
true HK has autonomy with their government, but hong kong is still part of China. 1 country , 2 systems.
jdiddy666 4 years ago
yea, a bit like scotland and england, ireland and scotland etc
saundersm10 3 years ago
thats your business, just dont think u guys still own Hong Kong.
jdiddy666 3 years ago
Im from hong kong but live in UK, I was using a friends account
saundersm10 3 years ago
@sasanong BUT HK is a part of China.
jdiddy666 8 months ago
flu in february 08 hmmmm what await us in june 08. PLA is cooking something :)
o10ciano 4 years ago 5
hong kong is a city. in the People's Republic of China.
jdiddy666 4 years ago
WOW, NEGATIVES? its the truth.
jdiddy666 3 years ago
stfu guys hong kong is the best
saijujiwara 4 years ago 11
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HOngkong is British's pet
UKcontrolsHK 4 years ago
u brits dont control a damn thing. Hong Kong IS BACK WITH its motherland China
jdiddy666 3 years ago
hong kong is an amazing country love it
teresa100692 4 years ago 6
Hong Kong is a city.
humanequality 3 years ago 5
@humanequality.
but HK can sign free trade agreements with China, Netherlands, France, and Malaysia... Just recently, HK-Indonesia signed a Free trade agreement. Cities can't do that... SARs can do that.
Phead128 1 year ago