Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, that's perfectly true, but if you're looking for evidence and fail to find it, it's not something you can use to support your case. Like it or not, in the absence of any evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons programme, the Iranians have every right - under the Non Proliferation Treaty - to develop nuclear energy. WHY, for goodness sake, are we not up in arms (so to speak) against Israel, who we know does have nuclear weapons?
Correction, they have the right to develop peaceful nuclear energy if they comply with IAEA inspections. They have not. Their behavior makes no sense if their program is purely peaceful.
Israel is a nation that has been fighting for its very existence for 62 years. It does not try to export radical Judaism worldwide.
Not exporting Judaism does not give Israel the right to nuclear weapons. Neither does fighting for its existence which hardly describes Israel. It is the Palestinians who are fighting for their existence. They now have only 22 percent of their original land. This is not the best land but the worst. Still the Israelis are not satisfied. They want all of it. First the Palestinians tried peaceful protests, now they try these bombs.
In which respect has Iran failed to comply with the IAEA?
All this drum-beating and demonising of Iran is just by way of manufacturing consent for an eventual attack on Iran, possibly by the US but probably by Israel. Ordinary decent people would never consent to an unprovoked attack on a country, so they have to be sold a pretext. They have to be whipped up into a frenzy of fear and hatred of the Other. All that is needed is the fabrication some external threat. It works every time.
This is something you didnt hear about in the mainstream media but the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) recently passed a resolution calling on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty and open up its facilities to nuclear inspection. The US tried to block it. Having failed to block it, the US voted against it. It passed anyway. Israels response? Two fingers to the IAEA.
I have looked into this matter of Iran threatening to 'wipe Israel off the map. The exact words, in Farsi, uttered by Ahmadinejad on 25 Oct. 2005 were: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad." Israel is not spoken of by name, only the regime occupying Jerusalem. There is no mention either of map or wiped out. Correct translation: 'The Iman said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.'
@archdeaconj First: The Iranian government does not recognize the state of Israel, so regime is used.
Second: Farsi cannot be translated from a page. Nuance and context change things dramatically. The word ["ree-shih-KAN"], which literally translates into uprooting or pulling out from the roots. He used the word ["math"], which given the context, given as to how it's being used, it means disappearance.
There are many translations but they all come a vague point at Israel being "removed".
Oh, I agree. I'd even go further in saying that there can be no exact translation from one language to another, even after careful regard to linguistic and situational context (and paralinguistic clues such as intonation, gestures and so on). That said, translating what he said as wanting to wipe Israel off the map rather than predicting the fall of the regime in power is taking a bleedin' liberty. Some mischief-makers have even taken it to mean driving the Israeli people into the sea.
Totally agree with this video. If the Iraq war results in nothing but a good launch pad into a hostile Iran and an unoppressed future for Iraqis at the generous expense of the Americans in lives and money then it is justified. Funny how the international, vastly in minority, muslims try and deny the militant attitude of the truly muslim mother countries such as Iran when Iran is clearly commiting all sorts of evil acts.
iran dosnt need nuclear bomb fools, iran has some thing more powerfull than any weapones that you fools dont have and wont be able to undrestand it. thats why in 30 year s iran every day is going forward but you are not able to stop it.
russians had the largest arsenal, but thay lost. israel with 250 nuks, bigest loser that even cant make security for itself. but in another side america did its best to stop iran . not only thay couldnt but iran took over iraq , lebonan and even has gone to latin america besid the usa.
Iran has fanaticism and the will to sacrafice themselves for evil. Iranian militants will die like dogs if the continue down the nuclear path. Israel has security for itself that it has forced from its neighbours despite overwhelming odds.
America is certainly becoming degenerate morally but has not reached the stage whereby they kill by stoning and perform mutilations for insignificant religious 'crimes'.
agian you talk %100 opposite. its west who always brings up the issue of religion as you say now. in iran we say dead to american policy noy to cristians we say dead to israeli occupation not to jewdism.
but in western propaganda you dont hear any thing but talk of islam and muslems.
thats called fenetics religiouse radicalism in the west.
You could say that Americans say the same thing - death to Iranian policy not muslims and so on. Of course there are those who don't say that but say 'muslims' and the same in Iran where people will say 'Americans' not american policy. And then there's Israel's right to exist on its historical land that certain nations don't recognise and who try to disguise their anti-Semitic and genocidal views by criticising Israeli 'occupation' when really they would like to see them all dead.
If you know anything of middle eastern history you will know that the Jews lived on that land until Caeser Hadrian dispersed them by force in 135AD. The 'palestinians' in the area are significantly the result of migration from invasion from forces such as the Ottoman Turks which also introduced the religion of Islam. The nation of Israel was established on their original land so Jews could finally return to their homeland and protect themselves from continued oppression from madmen.
Judaism religion and biological Jews are completely different things. I can convert to Judaism and it won't make the land of palestine my historical land at all.
ok so during this 2000 years as you say, mmilions of people have conveted to judism and in anther hand the orginal ones were mixed with other. so who is the owner of that land?
The Hebrews as a race are generally adverse to marriage with other races and can therefore commonly trace family lineage back thousands of years as is their custom. The Jews today, as a majority, are just as biologically Jewish as they were back when they lived on that land well before the palestinians came through invasion and migration. The palestinians therefore have far less right to that land than the Jewish people.
we arent all like that. i divide the worlds people by asshole, or nonasshole, one person at a time. it works for any color, any race, any belief structure.
You are exactly right. Steve, I learned all of this about one year ago. The US Congress has known about Iran since August 14, 2002!!! I am extremely puzzled by our failure to stuff Ahmadinejad and the Iranian mullahs in a sack bound for Gitmo.
There is nothing in this report that reassures. Iran is being allowed to play exactly the same shell game as North Korea did, in order to buy time to build NW.
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funny man like the way he twist his words
6642633 1 year ago
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, that's perfectly true, but if you're looking for evidence and fail to find it, it's not something you can use to support your case. Like it or not, in the absence of any evidence that Iran is pursuing a nuclear weapons programme, the Iranians have every right - under the Non Proliferation Treaty - to develop nuclear energy. WHY, for goodness sake, are we not up in arms (so to speak) against Israel, who we know does have nuclear weapons?
archdeaconj 2 years ago
Correction, they have the right to develop peaceful nuclear energy if they comply with IAEA inspections. They have not. Their behavior makes no sense if their program is purely peaceful.
Israel is a nation that has been fighting for its very existence for 62 years. It does not try to export radical Judaism worldwide.
SteveWrathall 2 years ago
Not exporting Judaism does not give Israel the right to nuclear weapons. Neither does fighting for its existence which hardly describes Israel. It is the Palestinians who are fighting for their existence. They now have only 22 percent of their original land. This is not the best land but the worst. Still the Israelis are not satisfied. They want all of it. First the Palestinians tried peaceful protests, now they try these bombs.
In which respect has Iran failed to comply with the IAEA?
archdeaconj 2 years ago
All this drum-beating and demonising of Iran is just by way of manufacturing consent for an eventual attack on Iran, possibly by the US but probably by Israel. Ordinary decent people would never consent to an unprovoked attack on a country, so they have to be sold a pretext. They have to be whipped up into a frenzy of fear and hatred of the Other. All that is needed is the fabrication some external threat. It works every time.
archdeaconj 2 years ago
This is something you didnt hear about in the mainstream media but the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) recently passed a resolution calling on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty and open up its facilities to nuclear inspection. The US tried to block it. Having failed to block it, the US voted against it. It passed anyway. Israels response? Two fingers to the IAEA.
archdeaconj 2 years ago
@archdeaconj
No one is against Israel because Israel has never publicly declared it wants to wipe another country off the map... unlike Iran.
Many of your other posts are very anti-israel, as it is your right to have an opinion, however biased and slanted that may be.
losghost 1 year ago
I have looked into this matter of Iran threatening to 'wipe Israel off the map. The exact words, in Farsi, uttered by Ahmadinejad on 25 Oct. 2005 were: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad." Israel is not spoken of by name, only the regime occupying Jerusalem. There is no mention either of map or wiped out. Correct translation: 'The Iman said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.'
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@archdeaconj First: The Iranian government does not recognize the state of Israel, so regime is used.
Second: Farsi cannot be translated from a page. Nuance and context change things dramatically. The word ["ree-shih-KAN"], which literally translates into uprooting or pulling out from the roots. He used the word ["math"], which given the context, given as to how it's being used, it means disappearance.
There are many translations but they all come a vague point at Israel being "removed".
losghost 1 year ago
Oh, I agree. I'd even go further in saying that there can be no exact translation from one language to another, even after careful regard to linguistic and situational context (and paralinguistic clues such as intonation, gestures and so on). That said, translating what he said as wanting to wipe Israel off the map rather than predicting the fall of the regime in power is taking a bleedin' liberty. Some mischief-makers have even taken it to mean driving the Israeli people into the sea.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
Totally agree with this video. If the Iraq war results in nothing but a good launch pad into a hostile Iran and an unoppressed future for Iraqis at the generous expense of the Americans in lives and money then it is justified. Funny how the international, vastly in minority, muslims try and deny the militant attitude of the truly muslim mother countries such as Iran when Iran is clearly commiting all sorts of evil acts.
grannman 3 years ago
iran dosnt need nuclear bomb fools, iran has some thing more powerfull than any weapones that you fools dont have and wont be able to undrestand it. thats why in 30 year s iran every day is going forward but you are not able to stop it.
torbat1357 3 years ago
So what is this "something more powerful"? Magic carpets?
SteveWrathall 3 years ago
pakistan with nuks still under west control.
russians had the largest arsenal, but thay lost. israel with 250 nuks, bigest loser that even cant make security for itself. but in another side america did its best to stop iran . not only thay couldnt but iran took over iraq , lebonan and even has gone to latin america besid the usa.
so iran has some thing more powerfull than bomb.
torbat1357 3 years ago
Iran has fanaticism and the will to sacrafice themselves for evil. Iranian militants will die like dogs if the continue down the nuclear path. Israel has security for itself that it has forced from its neighbours despite overwhelming odds.
grannman 3 years ago
persia or iran still powerfull and perid at the same place for 7000 years.
long live aryan land of iran.
torbat1357 3 years ago
Iran is degenerate economically and morally. Long may they live in squalor.
grannman 3 years ago
that what you said is discribing the setuation in the west specily Americ.
torbat1357 3 years ago
America is certainly becoming degenerate morally but has not reached the stage whereby they kill by stoning and perform mutilations for insignificant religious 'crimes'.
grannman 3 years ago
agian you talk %100 opposite. its west who always brings up the issue of religion as you say now. in iran we say dead to american policy noy to cristians we say dead to israeli occupation not to jewdism.
but in western propaganda you dont hear any thing but talk of islam and muslems.
thats called fenetics religiouse radicalism in the west.
torbat1357 3 years ago
You could say that Americans say the same thing - death to Iranian policy not muslims and so on. Of course there are those who don't say that but say 'muslims' and the same in Iran where people will say 'Americans' not american policy. And then there's Israel's right to exist on its historical land that certain nations don't recognise and who try to disguise their anti-Semitic and genocidal views by criticising Israeli 'occupation' when really they would like to see them all dead.
grannman 3 years ago
how do you know its thire historical land?
thay were forced from europe and other parts of the world to move there.
you why ? again becuse the religious nature of westerns who hated jews.
torbat1357 3 years ago
If you know anything of middle eastern history you will know that the Jews lived on that land until Caeser Hadrian dispersed them by force in 135AD. The 'palestinians' in the area are significantly the result of migration from invasion from forces such as the Ottoman Turks which also introduced the religion of Islam. The nation of Israel was established on their original land so Jews could finally return to their homeland and protect themselves from continued oppression from madmen.
grannman 3 years ago
dont forget jewdism is religion belive not a race. one thing that zionists are trying to do is that to make people confused about that.
in fact any one from any nationality and race can have jedism faith. for example in my country jews have been living for 3000 years.
but thay are iranian with same race as i am.
so can thay claim that palestine is thire own land?
torbat1357 3 years ago
Judaism religion and biological Jews are completely different things. I can convert to Judaism and it won't make the land of palestine my historical land at all.
grannman 3 years ago
ok so during this 2000 years as you say, mmilions of people have conveted to judism and in anther hand the orginal ones were mixed with other. so who is the owner of that land?
i think the occupation of that land was ilegal.
torbat1357 3 years ago
The Hebrews as a race are generally adverse to marriage with other races and can therefore commonly trace family lineage back thousands of years as is their custom. The Jews today, as a majority, are just as biologically Jewish as they were back when they lived on that land well before the palestinians came through invasion and migration. The palestinians therefore have far less right to that land than the Jewish people.
grannman 3 years ago
we arent all like that. i divide the worlds people by asshole, or nonasshole, one person at a time. it works for any color, any race, any belief structure.
2skullscrushing 2 years ago
watch?v=XctgkYj5aVk
metalmike06 3 years ago
Why?
archdeaconj 1 year ago
Come on Bush, nuke the islamic scum before this sons of bitches nuke us.
crisamar 4 years ago
Solid video, nothing to add, you take it the way it is and do not play it safe when it is not, many thought Hitler was not so dangerous too.
ariewaintrob 4 years ago
You are exactly right. Steve, I learned all of this about one year ago. The US Congress has known about Iran since August 14, 2002!!! I am extremely puzzled by our failure to stuff Ahmadinejad and the Iranian mullahs in a sack bound for Gitmo.
Keep up the good work, pal!
opchidexio 4 years ago
Of course Iran wants nukes.
alienelite 4 years ago
Bush had known NIE report almost one year before published. He told lie to Americans and the world.
1-Repubican 2008 election agenda is based on "war to terrorism"
2- AIPAC and Israel would not support him.
3- there is no major threat to US and Demotratic election agenda is better.
4- Israel is not a member of NPT, but Iran is.
impartial1 4 years ago
There is nothing in this report that reassures. Iran is being allowed to play exactly the same shell game as North Korea did, in order to buy time to build NW.
SteveWrathall 4 years ago