They could have suspected the driver was intoxicated, or having some medical issues causing them to drive terrible, informed PD and waited for them to show up to check them out...
I'm not sure what the legislation is in wherever this was filmed, but I'm an EMT in New Jersey and we're definitely not allowed to pull over vehicles for traffic offenses (unless I happen to be an officer with off-duty powers as well). When someone does not pull over to the right for us when we're on an emergency call, we radio to PD with the vehicle plate and description, and then a summons will be issued to the driver. Or in this case, since there is no plate, PD would send a unit over.
I would sign a legal complaint charging the ambulance driver with illegal use of emergency lights.
You can legally try getting another driver to stop by briefly honking your horn and motioning.
You can also call the police NON EMERGENCY NUMBER , report to driver for police to find and file a complaint.
I had a volunteer firefighter illegally using his lights, ticketed. DA kindly advised me not to go to court: guy's passenger made it two against one so he wins. Buthe dolt had to go to court.
This reminds of a story. This guy i once knew worked securtiy at Pittsburgh Intl. Airport, but was also a volunteer fire fighter. So, he was coming home one night and disapproved of the way the guy in fornt of him was driving, so he turned on his bar lights (remember, volunteer fire fighter), pulled the guy over and flashed his security badge. The guy he pulled over? Off duty deputy sheriff...He lost his lights and his job....
@gailgrove then you stand the chance of going to jail,,i,as a reg citizen can pull you over and arrest you until police arrive to file charges,,check the laws!
@gailgrove You said you wouldn't pull over for an ambulance. Kindof against the law there. You're supposed to pull over for emergency vehicles when they're on a call. :P
@gailgrove Well all I can say that there was no proof that the ambulance did the pulling over just because it's behind the vehicle and just because some guy with no life pulls a camera out after all this happened and decided to put some words in the info box dosn't make anything true...just saying lol.
I know of case in Louisiana where a pumper pulled over a guy (sadly I knew the guy). They just came up behind him, hit the manual button and the lights. The didn't approach him so technically they didn't pull hm over, he yielded and sat in is car till the cop arrived. After the cop poured him out of the car, he blew a 0.348. I hated to see it happen to the guy because he really was trying to get his life back together but some people have to be taken off the streets.
I've been on the job for many years and have personally "pulled over" a few motorists, both in the Engine and the Ambulance, now that being said, they all were very elderly, confused, and posing an immediate hazard to the community I protect. Would I even consider doing it in any other situation, absolutely not. But if I am witness to something like an elderly driver a few moments away from running into an eight lane intersection and getting lambasted, the last thing on my mind is policies.
-have this training and are not sworn law enforcement. Ambulance crews do not have the authority to enforce any laws or detain, arrest etc. They are violating an individuals rights and their testimony , while credible, would not hold up in a court of law and infact they can themselves be prosecuted if the defendent opt charges for violating their rights. If this county in Utah is allowing emergency response crews to perform law enforcement duties I hope they have a good insurance policy .
Rbrockcoble, the United States has adopted ACT 120 Training for all municiple law enforcement to attain in order to enact vehicle code procedures and criminal code. This is an extensive seven month program with certification exams at the completion. A major part of this training is vehicle stop procedures, curlidge laws, search and seizure etc. State Troopers and Conservation Police attend their own respective accreditied courses and are the only exception to this rule. Ambulance crews do not.
the real issue is training. Ambulance personel are not trained for vehicle stop procedures regardless of what country. Other then domestic calls, vehicle stops are the number one most dangerous jobs in law enforcement. Plus the chance of something going wrong and you have a armed suspect and a ambulance crew without firearms, this is a major liability accident waiting to happen.
Yes ambulances dont cannot conduct traffic stops. In fact they dont even help people if there is a fight going on still even if someone is lying in a pool of blood.
Here's what I don't understand. They were "cut off". I can only assume they were cut off while driving normally in traffic, not responding to an emergency and without a patient on board. In that circumstance, do they really feel the need to pull a car over? If they were responding to an emergency or with a patient on board, they had NO business pulling the car over, and if neither was the case, they are still wasting their time just for being cut off. God complex?
I wouldn't do a traffic stop anyways. I'm an EMT from Kansas City. Pull some "less than desirable" over and you get "got" if you know what I'm saying. Hell, just a few years back a cop was shot up for pulling over the wrong car. Take care fellow EMS workers, and be safe out there.
I used to do ALS 911 response. There are plenty of EMT's I would trust over a nurse or paramedic. EMT's aren't the lowest trained either. There is a certification called "First Responder" in most states. EMT's also work in clinical settings too. EMT is a much higher authority over people such as CNAs, Medical assistants, dialysis techs. therapists, mostly anyone lower than a nurse is lower than an EMT too. If they were poorly trained, 911 would send them to respond. you get good and bad though..
I am a FF and EMT and there is nothing to incidate the Ambluance did a traffic stop even tho it may look that way what probably actually happen is that the person driving the car or a passenger might have been having a medical issue or a Heart attack and they pulled over and called 911 and the Ambluance arrived on scene and pulled behind the car and a cop was also near the sight and came to assist
@DisturbedForever92 If they do not have power to pull someone over, why did that idiot pull over? There is no way I would pull over for an ambulance here in USA especially if it because i cut it off.
@ylen13 Well maybe he wondered what was happening.. he probly went to the side to let the ambulance go and when he saw the ambulance stop behind him he might've just been confused.. by then the ambulance has his license plate and everything so he just gave up running
@DisturbedForever92 An ambulance can write/report my plate here in USA all they want. Unless cop is around and sees a violation(s) and pulls vehicle over nothing can happen to the driver.
@ylen13 if someone sees a crime happening and can point out the vehicle and driver when the police show the officer will write a ticket and the citizen who saw the crime will have to sign it and serve it to the person who commited the crime. then they both will have to go to court for that crime and the judge will decide whether the witness it credible or not and will deal with the crime in the appropriate way. sorry for my lack of grammar in this lol
A lot of people are commenting on here saying that the ambulance driver was breaking the law performing a traffic stop, and fail to realize that this is in Canada. USA and Canada are two entirely different countries, with different laws. Think for once, people.
@Rbrockcoble Even so, any emergency service vehicles are allowed by law to initiate a traffic stop, how ever - they are not allowed to conduct the traffic stop. They have to wait for the proper Emergency Services to arrive.
Also i dk where you live or where you get your info but its incorrect no emergency vechile are not allowed to initate a traffic stop the most we could do is if we see them breaking a major law then would radio dispatch and tell them what we witness and the location of the vechile we can not pull them over we would get in serioius trouble pulling over a car especially if it was for something minor like speeding !
@AmericanNinja85 I don't know where you live either, but my information isn't "incorrect". They are allowed to Initiate a traffic stop, but are not allowed to conduct it. Might be different for certain places...
Well i am a EMT and i have not heard of it being allowed in any state that i know of why dont you go ask EMT at your local FD and see if they are allowed to do Traffic stops i bet you they would tell you NO
r u sure because the laws are not much different there then here for that type of thing ? anyways i was kinda making the point that to people that think its legal in the united states because even IF it is legal in canda i dont know any State in the US where its legal because there was people that was saying it was
@jjfan4824 However Cops can pull people over outside of there area and then wait for the proper Auntorities that cover that are to show up so a City cop could pull someone over in the Country or a Sherfiff in one county can pull someone over in another and wait for the Cops of that area to arrive but an Ambulance can not do traffic stops
@Rbrockcoble So, you are stating that ambulances in Canada can, and do make traffic stops, just like the regular police do? I think that pretty much everone know that Canada and the USA are two entirely different countries, with many different laws. I would appreciate an answer to my above question, thanks.
@Rbrockcoble In the US ANY emergency vehicle can pull you over. the people who are saying they can't do it are just stupid. it has nothing to do with the law being different
Your and idiot I am an EMT and Firefigther WE CAN NOT do traffic stops !! one of the things they tell you the most in class that even when we have lights and sirens we are just asking for the right of way traffic does not legally have to pull over for us we are to drive with due reguard of others the only thing that anyone legally has to pull over for is law enforcement in most states !
@AmericanNinja85 so slow down and see what someone means when they say something before you call someone an idiot. Now maybe she could do that because she's technically a law enforcement officer or maybe she had to go by the same rules as fire men and paramedics I'm not sure, but i know that she was able to.
Sorry for calling you and Idiot all i was saying in most states as far as im aware of that Ambulances and other emergency vechiles besides law enforcement can not peform traffic stops but if they do notice someone breaking the law they can radio it in to disptach but they can't stop the vechile and peform a traffic stop and yes perhaps she could since she was tehnically law enforcement but also my bad because i thought u meant writing them a ticket
@AmericanNinja85 Well that was a while back. My mom was an animal control officer about 6 years ago so laws might have changed, and to be honest she's not the most reliable person in the world, but i believed her because my step dad, the deputy sheriff, agreed with her. I love my mom but she's kind of dumb, and makes bad decisions. But anyway no hard feelings dude i don't hold grudges and it's my pleasure. Something i've wanted to do my whole life. I love helping people, not just arresting them
@AmericanNinja85 any military service member you talk to and say thank you to will always say "It's just part of the job" but it feels good to know that there are people who still care and who still see that we're trying to help. So thank YOU for everything you do as an EMT and thank you for your support. Stay safe i know how crazy being a fire man/ EMT can be I help them on a semi daily basis so be careful, and when in doubt call for help from the police. It's better safe than sorry.
Yea i know what you mean we say the samething its part of the job but its feels nice to still feel appieated sometimes I also have always wanted to help people i love doing it and yea if we ever feel a person or a place might be dangerous we usually call police first you stay safe also !
How ever like i said before any police officer can pull you over even if they are outside of their area but they can not ticket you without the permission of law enforcement from that covered area otherwise they have to contact law enforcement from that area and wait for them to arrive but they can hold you until the proper law enforcement gets there but Ambluance , Fire Trucks and any thing that isnt a law enforcement vechile can not do Traffice stops so learn your laws !
@AmericanNinja85 whoa there sir pause. I'm a police officer in the navy, my dad is a deputy sheriff in newton county Georgia, and my mom was an animal control officer and she could do traffic stops on a vehicle. I know the laws but laws very by state. So just because you can't pull over someone in whatever state you live in doesn't mean someone else can't I don't mean that you can pull them over and write them a ticket i mean you can pull them over and wait for police.
@Rbrockcoble< I'd also like to know what "law" they seem to think is being broken. Here in the states law says when the lights are on you pull the hell over. On top of that, all emergency workers have full right to use the emergency signals to yield a dangerous motorist and detain them till police arrive.
@Rbrockcoble It's still not legal for an ambulance to perform a traffic stop. Paramedics aren't peace officers, and peace officers are the only ones who can stop vehicles for traffic infractions in Canada, too. It's also not a good idea, since paramedics aren't trained or equipped to do this. Best idea, follow vehicle and get your dispatch to contact police (assuming it's safe to do so, and the other vehicle isn't an imminent danger to others).
@Rbrockcoble First and foremost, we can all agree that paramedics are not law enforcement officials. However, section 494 of the Criminal Code of Canada (a federal statute equivalent to Title 18 of the United States Code) empowers citizens to arrest law-breakers; known as"citizen's arrest." A paramedic may, in-theory, in her civilian capacity -- as opposed to paramedic capacity -- detain/arrest this person until a "peace officer" (verbatim: section 494) arrives. Thus, you are somewhat correct.
@MoeyViolinist But incorrect in this instance. You may perform a citizen's arrest when you witness a person committing a summary criminal offence on your property or when you witness a person committing an indictable criminal offence anywhere. Cutting someone off in traffic is neither. Same for driving without plates.
@qazwas2001 None of the sub-sections under 494 explicitly use the word "summary offence." Section 494(1) lists two circumstances: (a) or (b), and under (b)(i), it states "criminal offence." The question becomes: was the conduct of the driver -- failure to yield to a right of way -- prohibited by the Criminal Code of Canada? If so, then through a textualist/constructionist interpretation, a "criminal offence" under (b)(i) occurred. If no, then these circumstances wouldn't qualify under (b)(i).
@redriderforlife No, but the driver CAN be arrested if he's pulled over, and after the cops check his info, he's found to be driving without insurance or a licence. Same goes if the violation's serious enough, like excessive speed or "dangerous driving".
@MoeyViolinist Wrong. The Criminal Code allows anybody to arrest someone who they find committing an INDICTABLE OFFENCE, which traffic violations are not. Thus, you are an uninformed idiot.
@cappy6921 LOL... I'm afraid it does. The exception, of course, is on private property for property-related offences. This doesn't apply here. Maybe you should try some research before commenting about stuff you're obviously clueless about?
@cappy6921 The Criminal Code is federal in Canada -- it doesn't vary by province. You obviously don't even know what an indictable offence is either, so why are you coming on here and telling other people that they need to do their research?
@ericvallillee ummm,,ya,,ok then,,endangering lives on a public highway with a dangerous weapon RE: car,, is not an indictable offense eh,,and when was it that you had this law changed??? check with your local cop shop dumbass!!!!!
@cappy6921 Dangerous driving is the only criminal offence that could possibly have taken place here by any stretch of the imagination. An ambulance driver is not qualified to determine what constitutes dangerous driving. They should have called it in and went on their way. And it's getting pretty obvious that you're just some kid skipping class and wasting time on YouTube, so au revoir.
Sec 494 of the CCC is known for citizen's arrest, however specifically for arrest without warrant. Citizens may only arrest/detain criminals committing indictable (serious offences) offence(s) and/or any criminal offence on or in relation to their property. Cutting off an ambulance will most likely falls under traffic offences similar to failing to yield for emergency vehicles. Traffic offences often fall under provincial statutes and therefore are not of a criminal capacity.
@MoeyViolinist But as well, acting as a civilian, may not use an emergency vehicle. Which would be seen as impersonating in court, if played as a civilian role. If played as an EMT role, would be seen as not having that power to detain for any activity. But instead should have had a police officer respond to handle the situation.
But either way, we do not know for sure the EMT's did stop the vehicle. Just because they are simply parked behind the vehicle, does not Constitute a stop.
@SpiderRider3 An emergency vehicle of any sort can preform a "Traffic stop" on a vehicle breaking the law. They then call the police and PD responds to issue the ticket.
Paramedics are the highest trained in emergency medical services...not a higher class of first responder...and...Ambulances do not have the authority to pull someone over...thats impersonating law enforement if they do and punishable by law...what a bunch of idiots...
Finally someone else that knows what they are talking about i said the exact samething i can't believe people believe ambulances are allowed to do traffic stops !
actually no First Responders are below EMTS the lowest level of Medical Trained Professionals then it varies a little state to state but then it will Go EMT-B (Basic) Emt-I then EMT-P (whhich are Paramedics) Which some states consider them Sepearte as EMTS but they are NOT a higher class of First Responders
@mikebirchard1122 and you still have 4 yrs of schooling and get less than 20 an hr and dont tell me its for the ppl cuz i was gonna i was gonna start emt basic so i could get on the f.d. but realized all the cost of schooling and political molarky to even get on the f.d no thanks i would rather get a medical degree and be in a hospital not every ones a dumbass and ok so a paramedic as 2 more yrs of schooling than an emt and only a few over an emt-i big whoop,
If you join a volunteer debt most debts will pay for you EMT B and Fire 1 classes and where i am at you can do it thru a Career Center so you only have to take just EMT classes or just the Fire classes not all the other meaniless classes you would be required to take if you go for a Degree so you should check in to that if you still wanna join the FD just go to your local FD and talk to someone
@uploaded113redone Nice one. So you would let that patient die because you are too far up your own arse to swallow your own ignorance. For all you know that they could be transporting a member of your family.
someone acting as a wannabe cop it seems. i was a emt for many y ears and just cause your in a ambulance doesnt mean any different to most people you still get cut off and walked in front of. if i pulled over every idiot who cut me off or pissed me off i wouldnt have time to go on any calls
Thing they should install cameras in the grill, car cuts em off send the cops to the persons house that night , boot the car, Let the owner go to court and explain why they felt it necessary to possably endanger someone with their poor judgement
wow That's something. I can bet you no one's gonna see something like that for a looooooong time again. I'm beating my head in now for not fixing my car in time. I would have been there soo fast!
They could have suspected the driver was intoxicated, or having some medical issues causing them to drive terrible, informed PD and waited for them to show up to check them out...
randy420rhoads 1 day ago
someone got hert
CHEWYDUDES 4 days ago
I'm not sure what the legislation is in wherever this was filmed, but I'm an EMT in New Jersey and we're definitely not allowed to pull over vehicles for traffic offenses (unless I happen to be an officer with off-duty powers as well). When someone does not pull over to the right for us when we're on an emergency call, we radio to PD with the vehicle plate and description, and then a summons will be issued to the driver. Or in this case, since there is no plate, PD would send a unit over.
emlee0203 2 weeks ago
I would sign a legal complaint charging the ambulance driver with illegal use of emergency lights.
You can legally try getting another driver to stop by briefly honking your horn and motioning.
You can also call the police NON EMERGENCY NUMBER , report to driver for police to find and file a complaint.
I had a volunteer firefighter illegally using his lights, ticketed. DA kindly advised me not to go to court: guy's passenger made it two against one so he wins. Buthe dolt had to go to court.
robertgift 3 weeks ago
this is what u call a buff.
crytoyourmom 4 weeks ago
This reminds of a story. This guy i once knew worked securtiy at Pittsburgh Intl. Airport, but was also a volunteer fire fighter. So, he was coming home one night and disapproved of the way the guy in fornt of him was driving, so he turned on his bar lights (remember, volunteer fire fighter), pulled the guy over and flashed his security badge. The guy he pulled over? Off duty deputy sheriff...He lost his lights and his job....
madguy457 1 month ago
@madguy457 lmfao great story.
BaltimaVQ35 1 month ago
eminem
CUWHIP97 1 month ago
i cannot believe the ignorance of some ppl,lol,,then again,,it was from an ignorant frenchman!!!
cappy6921 1 month ago
You can run from Ambulence, they dont have any rights to stop you.
KZWolf 1 month ago
Well all I can say is that I wouldn't pull over for an ambulance!
gailgrove 1 month ago 2
@gailgrove then you stand the chance of going to jail,,i,as a reg citizen can pull you over and arrest you until police arrive to file charges,,check the laws!
cappy6921 1 month ago
@cappy6921 You cannot arrest someone for driving violations.
gailgrove 3 weeks ago
@gailgrove Well when you're dying in the back of an ambulance I hope no one pulls over for you either.
DracoAzule 3 weeks ago
@DracoAzule Huh? How is that related to anything?
gailgrove 3 weeks ago
@gailgrove You said you wouldn't pull over for an ambulance. Kindof against the law there. You're supposed to pull over for emergency vehicles when they're on a call. :P
DracoAzule 3 weeks ago
@gailgrove Well all I can say that there was no proof that the ambulance did the pulling over just because it's behind the vehicle and just because some guy with no life pulls a camera out after all this happened and decided to put some words in the info box dosn't make anything true...just saying lol.
Mike54171 2 weeks ago 3
@Mike54171 ur the low-life in this case who's bickering about something just cuz there's no 'proof'. there's no logical reason to fake this...
DopeBass 1 week ago
nothing to see here really i been pulled over by the fire truck before
kayu38 1 month ago
Maybe the cops pulled the car over then called the ambulance. The simplest solution is usually the right one.
oneillsoneills 1 month ago
I know of case in Louisiana where a pumper pulled over a guy (sadly I knew the guy). They just came up behind him, hit the manual button and the lights. The didn't approach him so technically they didn't pull hm over, he yielded and sat in is car till the cop arrived. After the cop poured him out of the car, he blew a 0.348. I hated to see it happen to the guy because he really was trying to get his life back together but some people have to be taken off the streets.
jko3139 2 months ago
I've been on the job for many years and have personally "pulled over" a few motorists, both in the Engine and the Ambulance, now that being said, they all were very elderly, confused, and posing an immediate hazard to the community I protect. Would I even consider doing it in any other situation, absolutely not. But if I am witness to something like an elderly driver a few moments away from running into an eight lane intersection and getting lambasted, the last thing on my mind is policies.
johnnykATL 2 months ago
-have this training and are not sworn law enforcement. Ambulance crews do not have the authority to enforce any laws or detain, arrest etc. They are violating an individuals rights and their testimony , while credible, would not hold up in a court of law and infact they can themselves be prosecuted if the defendent opt charges for violating their rights. If this county in Utah is allowing emergency response crews to perform law enforcement duties I hope they have a good insurance policy .
MrToddPA 2 months ago
Rbrockcoble, the United States has adopted ACT 120 Training for all municiple law enforcement to attain in order to enact vehicle code procedures and criminal code. This is an extensive seven month program with certification exams at the completion. A major part of this training is vehicle stop procedures, curlidge laws, search and seizure etc. State Troopers and Conservation Police attend their own respective accreditied courses and are the only exception to this rule. Ambulance crews do not.
MrToddPA 2 months ago
the real issue is training. Ambulance personel are not trained for vehicle stop procedures regardless of what country. Other then domestic calls, vehicle stops are the number one most dangerous jobs in law enforcement. Plus the chance of something going wrong and you have a armed suspect and a ambulance crew without firearms, this is a major liability accident waiting to happen.
MrToddPA 2 months ago
Yes ambulances dont cannot conduct traffic stops. In fact they dont even help people if there is a fight going on still even if someone is lying in a pool of blood.
flute1234 2 months ago
I AM A CANADIEN
paramedics are required to call police if the see sombody speeding or breaking the law...
they are to follow them until the police get there
PartyyCheff 2 months ago
Here's what I don't understand. They were "cut off". I can only assume they were cut off while driving normally in traffic, not responding to an emergency and without a patient on board. In that circumstance, do they really feel the need to pull a car over? If they were responding to an emergency or with a patient on board, they had NO business pulling the car over, and if neither was the case, they are still wasting their time just for being cut off. God complex?
ntjannetta 2 months ago
@ntjannetta Also I am a medic with 8+ years road experience.
ntjannetta 2 months ago
am i the only one, or does anyone else think RCMP has the coolest fucking cars ever?
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
I wouldn't do a traffic stop anyways. I'm an EMT from Kansas City. Pull some "less than desirable" over and you get "got" if you know what I'm saying. Hell, just a few years back a cop was shot up for pulling over the wrong car. Take care fellow EMS workers, and be safe out there.
infinitblueshift 3 months ago
@infinitblueshift
You take care also stay safe !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
Only in Canada.... I love Canada!
HoferGofer56 3 months ago
the ambulance driver wants to be a cop apparently haha
lightshade0 3 months ago
I used to do ALS 911 response. There are plenty of EMT's I would trust over a nurse or paramedic. EMT's aren't the lowest trained either. There is a certification called "First Responder" in most states. EMT's also work in clinical settings too. EMT is a much higher authority over people such as CNAs, Medical assistants, dialysis techs. therapists, mostly anyone lower than a nurse is lower than an EMT too. If they were poorly trained, 911 would send them to respond. you get good and bad though..
DickCheese0351 3 months ago
I am a FF and EMT and there is nothing to incidate the Ambluance did a traffic stop even tho it may look that way what probably actually happen is that the person driving the car or a passenger might have been having a medical issue or a Heart attack and they pulled over and called 911 and the Ambluance arrived on scene and pulled behind the car and a cop was also near the sight and came to assist
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
I hate when people don't actually know what they are talking about.
badaboom1122 4 months ago
Food for thought: Emergency vehicle drivers deal with the public all the time. The public doesn't always deal with Emergency Vehicle Drivers.
recycle07071983 5 months ago
Wow, this would never happen in USA. Ambulance have no stopping/detainment power.
ylen13 5 months ago
@ylen13 Well they don't either in Canada, but it would technically be a citizen arrest
DisturbedForever92 5 months ago
@DisturbedForever92 If they do not have power to pull someone over, why did that idiot pull over? There is no way I would pull over for an ambulance here in USA especially if it because i cut it off.
ylen13 5 months ago
@ylen13 Well maybe he wondered what was happening.. he probly went to the side to let the ambulance go and when he saw the ambulance stop behind him he might've just been confused.. by then the ambulance has his license plate and everything so he just gave up running
DisturbedForever92 5 months ago
@DisturbedForever92 An ambulance can write/report my plate here in USA all they want. Unless cop is around and sees a violation(s) and pulls vehicle over nothing can happen to the driver.
ylen13 5 months ago
@ylen13 Typical ignorant american.
TekBubs 5 months ago
@TekBubs watch it boy . no one made you watch the video . go back home to ur country or stay in ur country , which ever it is and leave us alone
fireman9576 4 months ago
@ylen13 if someone sees a crime happening and can point out the vehicle and driver when the police show the officer will write a ticket and the citizen who saw the crime will have to sign it and serve it to the person who commited the crime. then they both will have to go to court for that crime and the judge will decide whether the witness it credible or not and will deal with the crime in the appropriate way. sorry for my lack of grammar in this lol
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@ylen13 GET A LIFE. YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN EMS AND ALL YOU DO IS SPEND YOUR TIME TROLLING EMS VIDEOS. GET A HOBBY.
Projectdie 5 months ago
A lot of people are commenting on here saying that the ambulance driver was breaking the law performing a traffic stop, and fail to realize that this is in Canada. USA and Canada are two entirely different countries, with different laws. Think for once, people.
Rbrockcoble 6 months ago 47
@Rbrockcoble No kidding...heck, I haven't seen any ambulance with that style of forward lighting in the states.
Natesmodelrailroad 5 months ago
@Rbrockcoble Even so, any emergency service vehicles are allowed by law to initiate a traffic stop, how ever - they are not allowed to conduct the traffic stop. They have to wait for the proper Emergency Services to arrive.
jjfan4824 4 months ago
@jjfan4824
Also i dk where you live or where you get your info but its incorrect no emergency vechile are not allowed to initate a traffic stop the most we could do is if we see them breaking a major law then would radio dispatch and tell them what we witness and the location of the vechile we can not pull them over we would get in serioius trouble pulling over a car especially if it was for something minor like speeding !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 I don't know where you live either, but my information isn't "incorrect". They are allowed to Initiate a traffic stop, but are not allowed to conduct it. Might be different for certain places...
jjfan4824 3 months ago
@jjfan4824
Well i am a EMT and i have not heard of it being allowed in any state that i know of why dont you go ask EMT at your local FD and see if they are allowed to do Traffic stops i bet you they would tell you NO
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85
This is in Canada; they are allowed to do Traffic Stops here.
gasbait 3 months ago
@gasbait
r u sure because the laws are not much different there then here for that type of thing ? anyways i was kinda making the point that to people that think its legal in the united states because even IF it is legal in canda i dont know any State in the US where its legal because there was people that was saying it was
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@jjfan4824 However Cops can pull people over outside of there area and then wait for the proper Auntorities that cover that are to show up so a City cop could pull someone over in the Country or a Sherfiff in one county can pull someone over in another and wait for the Cops of that area to arrive but an Ambulance can not do traffic stops
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@Rbrockcoble So, you are stating that ambulances in Canada can, and do make traffic stops, just like the regular police do? I think that pretty much everone know that Canada and the USA are two entirely different countries, with many different laws. I would appreciate an answer to my above question, thanks.
policechaser 4 months ago
@Rbrockcoble In the US ANY emergency vehicle can pull you over. the people who are saying they can't do it are just stupid. it has nothing to do with the law being different
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@Asstasticplastic2
Your and idiot I am an EMT and Firefigther WE CAN NOT do traffic stops !! one of the things they tell you the most in class that even when we have lights and sirens we are just asking for the right of way traffic does not legally have to pull over for us we are to drive with due reguard of others the only thing that anyone legally has to pull over for is law enforcement in most states !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 so slow down and see what someone means when they say something before you call someone an idiot. Now maybe she could do that because she's technically a law enforcement officer or maybe she had to go by the same rules as fire men and paramedics I'm not sure, but i know that she was able to.
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@Asstasticplastic2
Sorry for calling you and Idiot all i was saying in most states as far as im aware of that Ambulances and other emergency vechiles besides law enforcement can not peform traffic stops but if they do notice someone breaking the law they can radio it in to disptach but they can't stop the vechile and peform a traffic stop and yes perhaps she could since she was tehnically law enforcement but also my bad because i thought u meant writing them a ticket
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 Well that was a while back. My mom was an animal control officer about 6 years ago so laws might have changed, and to be honest she's not the most reliable person in the world, but i believed her because my step dad, the deputy sheriff, agreed with her. I love my mom but she's kind of dumb, and makes bad decisions. But anyway no hard feelings dude i don't hold grudges and it's my pleasure. Something i've wanted to do my whole life. I love helping people, not just arresting them
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@Asstasticplastic2
Also just wanted to say thank you for the Service you have done for this Country and for all of US
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 any military service member you talk to and say thank you to will always say "It's just part of the job" but it feels good to know that there are people who still care and who still see that we're trying to help. So thank YOU for everything you do as an EMT and thank you for your support. Stay safe i know how crazy being a fire man/ EMT can be I help them on a semi daily basis so be careful, and when in doubt call for help from the police. It's better safe than sorry.
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@Asstasticplastic2
Yea i know what you mean we say the samething its part of the job but its feels nice to still feel appieated sometimes I also have always wanted to help people i love doing it and yea if we ever feel a person or a place might be dangerous we usually call police first you stay safe also !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@Asstasticplastic2
How ever like i said before any police officer can pull you over even if they are outside of their area but they can not ticket you without the permission of law enforcement from that covered area otherwise they have to contact law enforcement from that area and wait for them to arrive but they can hold you until the proper law enforcement gets there but Ambluance , Fire Trucks and any thing that isnt a law enforcement vechile can not do Traffice stops so learn your laws !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 whoa there sir pause. I'm a police officer in the navy, my dad is a deputy sheriff in newton county Georgia, and my mom was an animal control officer and she could do traffic stops on a vehicle. I know the laws but laws very by state. So just because you can't pull over someone in whatever state you live in doesn't mean someone else can't I don't mean that you can pull them over and write them a ticket i mean you can pull them over and wait for police.
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@AmericanNinja85 will do, brother. take care
Asstasticplastic2 3 months ago
@Rbrockcoble They use them in Roy, Utah USA. They use the paramedic unit to pull cars over on the freeway.
throwyouunderthebus 3 months ago
@Rbrockcoble< I'd also like to know what "law" they seem to think is being broken. Here in the states law says when the lights are on you pull the hell over. On top of that, all emergency workers have full right to use the emergency signals to yield a dangerous motorist and detain them till police arrive.
gnockergnutz 2 months ago
@Rbrockcoble ok then, as a CANADIAN, i can confirm than an ambulance cannot pull over a car. for any reason, at any time.
autohayabusa 2 months ago
@Rbrockcoble It's still not legal for an ambulance to perform a traffic stop. Paramedics aren't peace officers, and peace officers are the only ones who can stop vehicles for traffic infractions in Canada, too. It's also not a good idea, since paramedics aren't trained or equipped to do this. Best idea, follow vehicle and get your dispatch to contact police (assuming it's safe to do so, and the other vehicle isn't an imminent danger to others).
rudeboystu69 2 months ago
@Rbrockcoble First and foremost, we can all agree that paramedics are not law enforcement officials. However, section 494 of the Criminal Code of Canada (a federal statute equivalent to Title 18 of the United States Code) empowers citizens to arrest law-breakers; known as"citizen's arrest." A paramedic may, in-theory, in her civilian capacity -- as opposed to paramedic capacity -- detain/arrest this person until a "peace officer" (verbatim: section 494) arrives. Thus, you are somewhat correct.
MoeyViolinist 1 month ago 26
@MoeyViolinist Who gives a flying fuck you wouldv'e done the same thing
LCSPInvestigations 1 month ago
@MoeyViolinist But incorrect in this instance. You may perform a citizen's arrest when you witness a person committing a summary criminal offence on your property or when you witness a person committing an indictable criminal offence anywhere. Cutting someone off in traffic is neither. Same for driving without plates.
qazwas2001 1 month ago
@qazwas2001 None of the sub-sections under 494 explicitly use the word "summary offence." Section 494(1) lists two circumstances: (a) or (b), and under (b)(i), it states "criminal offence." The question becomes: was the conduct of the driver -- failure to yield to a right of way -- prohibited by the Criminal Code of Canada? If so, then through a textualist/constructionist interpretation, a "criminal offence" under (b)(i) occurred. If no, then these circumstances wouldn't qualify under (b)(i).
MoeyViolinist 1 month ago
@MoeyViolinist You can not arrest someone for a traffic violation, I dont care if your in canada or USA.
redriderforlife 1 month ago
@redriderforlife No, but the driver CAN be arrested if he's pulled over, and after the cops check his info, he's found to be driving without insurance or a licence. Same goes if the violation's serious enough, like excessive speed or "dangerous driving".
bluecollarcanuck 1 month ago
@MoeyViolinist Wrong. The Criminal Code allows anybody to arrest someone who they find committing an INDICTABLE OFFENCE, which traffic violations are not. Thus, you are an uninformed idiot.
ericvallillee 1 month ago
@ericvallillee you need to do more research,,does not have to be an indictable offense!
cappy6921 1 month ago
@cappy6921 LOL... I'm afraid it does. The exception, of course, is on private property for property-related offences. This doesn't apply here. Maybe you should try some research before commenting about stuff you're obviously clueless about?
ericvallillee 1 month ago
@ericvallillee laws must be different where you are,,in Ontario,,yes you can pull someone over for endangering your life with a weapon,,re: car.
cappy6921 1 month ago
@cappy6921 The Criminal Code is federal in Canada -- it doesn't vary by province. You obviously don't even know what an indictable offence is either, so why are you coming on here and telling other people that they need to do their research?
ericvallillee 1 month ago
@ericvallillee ummm,,ya,,ok then,,endangering lives on a public highway with a dangerous weapon RE: car,, is not an indictable offense eh,,and when was it that you had this law changed??? check with your local cop shop dumbass!!!!!
cappy6921 1 month ago
@cappy6921 Dangerous driving is the only criminal offence that could possibly have taken place here by any stretch of the imagination. An ambulance driver is not qualified to determine what constitutes dangerous driving. They should have called it in and went on their way. And it's getting pretty obvious that you're just some kid skipping class and wasting time on YouTube, so au revoir.
ericvallillee 1 month ago
Sec 494 of the CCC is known for citizen's arrest, however specifically for arrest without warrant. Citizens may only arrest/detain criminals committing indictable (serious offences) offence(s) and/or any criminal offence on or in relation to their property. Cutting off an ambulance will most likely falls under traffic offences similar to failing to yield for emergency vehicles. Traffic offences often fall under provincial statutes and therefore are not of a criminal capacity.
tranvi007 1 month ago
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Marshal8946 2 weeks ago
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@MoeyViolinist But as well, acting as a civilian, may not use an emergency vehicle. Which would be seen as impersonating in court, if played as a civilian role. If played as an EMT role, would be seen as not having that power to detain for any activity. But instead should have had a police officer respond to handle the situation.
But either way, we do not know for sure the EMT's did stop the vehicle. Just because they are simply parked behind the vehicle, does not Constitute a stop.
Marshal8946 2 weeks ago
@Rbrockcoble CANADA STILL SUX !!! and no i wasn’t one of those people commenting the ambulance traffic stop .
donnyray7777 1 month ago
@Rbrockcoble guess they never heard of citizens arrest!
cappy6921 1 month ago
I see that retard and his vehicle all the time in Moncton
1996figureskater 6 months ago
they didn't have any patients.. now they have
Imoviefilm 6 months ago
who would allow themselves to pulled over by paramedics?
metav3rvse 7 months ago
Actually in Canada there is 4 levels of emergency medical responders recognized nationally by the NOCP.
Emergency medical responder = to emt-b
Primary Care Paramedic = emt-a (with IV endorsement = emt-i)
Advanced Care Paramedic = emt-p or Paramedic
Critical Care Paramedic which is almost an ER Doc with an essentially full range of drugs and procedures.
And yes they can pull him over, they are an emergency vehicle going code 3 and all vehicles must yield to them in Canada.
MPIronmanJC 8 months ago
@MPIronmanJC yield means move out of their way. it doesn't mean they can make a traffic stop.
SpiderRider3 7 months ago
@SpiderRider3 An emergency vehicle of any sort can preform a "Traffic stop" on a vehicle breaking the law. They then call the police and PD responds to issue the ticket.
gtasalova6969 6 months ago
@MPIronmanJC At least someone knows the laws here in canada, and more people would if they would wiki it and read for 5 minutes.
Dakotify 6 months ago
Paramedics are the highest trained in emergency medical services...not a higher class of first responder...and...Ambulances do not have the authority to pull someone over...thats impersonating law enforement if they do and punishable by law...what a bunch of idiots...
ScottMcMedic 8 months ago
@ScottMcMedic what about people who make citizens arrest, your comment makes me laugh please study before you type =D
1996figureskater 6 months ago
@ScottMcMedic
Finally someone else that knows what they are talking about i said the exact samething i can't believe people believe ambulances are allowed to do traffic stops !
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
There not called paramedics. There called Emt's. Paramedics are a higher class of first responders.
aikitrainer 9 months ago
@aikitrainer
actually no First Responders are below EMTS the lowest level of Medical Trained Professionals then it varies a little state to state but then it will Go EMT-B (Basic) Emt-I then EMT-P (whhich are Paramedics) Which some states consider them Sepearte as EMTS but they are NOT a higher class of First Responders
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
they are also called paramedics in b.c. haha
mikebirchard1122 10 months ago
@mikebirchard1122 and you still have 4 yrs of schooling and get less than 20 an hr and dont tell me its for the ppl cuz i was gonna i was gonna start emt basic so i could get on the f.d. but realized all the cost of schooling and political molarky to even get on the f.d no thanks i would rather get a medical degree and be in a hospital not every ones a dumbass and ok so a paramedic as 2 more yrs of schooling than an emt and only a few over an emt-i big whoop,
19TL85 8 months ago
@19TL85
If you join a volunteer debt most debts will pay for you EMT B and Fire 1 classes and where i am at you can do it thru a Career Center so you only have to take just EMT classes or just the Fire classes not all the other meaniless classes you would be required to take if you go for a Degree so you should check in to that if you still wanna join the FD just go to your local FD and talk to someone
AmericanNinja85 3 months ago
It's funny how everybody is calling them ambulance drivers, last time I checked they were called Paramedics. In Nova Scotia they all are anyway
labradorian123 11 months ago
ummmmm........ambulance's cant pull people over....something else happened
zippylip76 11 months ago
i wouldnt stop for an ambulance what an idiot
uploaded113redone 1 year ago
@uploaded113redone So you're saying that if an ambulasnce was transporting a critically injured you wouldn't stop for the ambulance to pass you?
billesh55 1 year ago
@billesh55 fuck no they have no right to pull me over
uploaded113redone 1 year ago
@uploaded113redone Nice one. So you would let that patient die because you are too far up your own arse to swallow your own ignorance. For all you know that they could be transporting a member of your family.
billesh55 1 year ago 3
@billesh55 you have a small penis and everybody on youtube knows this
uploaded113redone 1 year ago
@uploaded113redone OMG WELL GOOD COMEBACK!! :D
billesh55 1 year ago 5
how did the ambulance pull him over?
1stresponder1 1 year ago
someone acting as a wannabe cop it seems. i was a emt for many y ears and just cause your in a ambulance doesnt mean any different to most people you still get cut off and walked in front of. if i pulled over every idiot who cut me off or pissed me off i wouldnt have time to go on any calls
fattpieceofcrap 1 year ago
@fattpieceofcrap Well said!
DC08SI 1 year ago
You always hope there's a cop around when someone does that, but hey---ambulance driver! whatever works.
LaRaNaThA 1 year ago
Thing they should install cameras in the grill, car cuts em off send the cops to the persons house that night , boot the car, Let the owner go to court and explain why they felt it necessary to possably endanger someone with their poor judgement
TheRetiredtrucker 1 year ago 2
wow That's something. I can bet you no one's gonna see something like that for a looooooong time again. I'm beating my head in now for not fixing my car in time. I would have been there soo fast!
TheMonctonNews 1 year ago
hale to the ambulance driver
therocd 1 year ago 19
@therocd No. Do not use that derogatory phrase, we HATE it.
Projectdie 4 months ago
it's about time emergency vechicles do this ........congrat to the ambulance driver
aintmuch2008 1 year ago 3
Interesting lol.
natescamp 1 year ago
I bet the driver wasn't expecting that to happen lol. Getting pulled over by an ambulance, wow.
mattbjrs 1 year ago
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therocd 1 year ago