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People always talk about gays, but they are really just reffering specifically to men, no one seemsd to care about lesbians. (who by the way are statistically less likely to contract STDs than even straight couples.)
ohhgod xDD I nearly pissed myself when he said that there were gay gangs raping guys to spread STI's, it's just too braindead! I live in holland, and something like that would certainly have been featured in the news at least once in the 22 years I have been alive xDD
I personally know people who joined religions they didn't believe in SOLELY because they're disgusted by all this pro gay BS! Its like no one has concepts like honour or dignity anymore. Everyone just wants to behave like an animal. Just because you "feel" something doesn't make it right.
Look at the HIV/AID charities links in the description. Why do HIV/AID charities get so much more funding than cancer or Alzheimers charities ? Because HIV/AID is trendy because gay is trendy
LOL, I like GI, he is cool. "I am celibate right now"
I just always thought of it as permanent due to religion, but I guess everybody is celibate now and again. Like right after I have sex, I just want a nap, but not sex at all. I am celibate during those times.
I think he is giving Charlie too much publicity, but I'm glad he's making these distinctions for others who may have the same beliefs.
There is air-tight argument and then there is this. Well done! Personally, I think Charlie is suffering from some kind of personality disorder that is not well controlled, or at all.
I'm Glad there are people like GrapplingIgnorance on youtube... You make very well fortified and thought out debates, At the very best you are one of the few who understands how to truly debate. I've been watching a few of your videos and i've tried to share with all of my known friends. I hope for you to continue your videos they inspire me to also make a youtube channel in which i can Help people understand many of the misconeptions they have now
@GrapplingIgnorance i think he his trolling my page right now as we speak under the name of AtheistMusicChannel ... my video is called "Cheers! You're an atheist" /watch?v=sLJsiBE2Nno , check it out and let me know if you think it's him
@thereligioussnitch Yes- it has to be him. If you look at that channel page, he's favorited a video of himself on ANOTHER channel, called "OpposeGayMarriage." I've only met one person who would ever favorite a video of his... and it's him.
@FagsDisgustAtheist Gay incest and homosexuality are two different things. That issue should be discussed just like another. We evaluate the pro's and con's and come to a reasonable conclusion as to how to deal with it. Not to see the difference is simply not to see the difference.
''They are DELUSIONAL for believing ALL negative views of queers MUST be influenced by religion'' The point was that you came off as a typical fundie.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@GrapplingIgnorance Thanks for the info. I'm listing to those videos now. You can hear his plans breaking when only a few questions are asked. As if Charlie was expecting that no questions would be asked at all.
@lilnoobito yeah good point.......how exactly did that go............i'm almost willing to put money on it.....that it didn't go at all............yeah he knew he was owned. Grapple.....damn your good
If you want a explanation to to why Gay men have the highest risk of STD, then I would suggest reading "How the Mind works" chapter family values. This isn't anti-gay bias, but just a honest answer. It was a great book and a national best seller.
I thought I should mention that gay women are much less likely to contract STI's than either straight women or straight men. So according to most of Charlies arguments, Lesbians are perfectly fine.
"So according to most of Charlies arguments, Lesbians are perfectly fine"
I didn't mention lesbians so you just spewed a red herring fallacy
When women ovulate, they release a scent in which attracts men...That ovoluation scent also attracts gay women. The problem is, gay women can't reproduce so why are lesbians attracted to a scent that signifies fertility???? There's only one explanation.. GAY BITCHES ARE MALFUNCTIONED....They're stuck with the wrong damn brain
@CharlieBoyCheckm Charlie, I am speaking to you as a psychologist. I won't get too into brain mechanics, partially because you won't understand it (I barely do so a layman won't). Lesbians are physically attracted to women in much the same way straight women are attracted to men. Their brains are wired differently, yes, BUT there are also hormonal factors to consider. Essentially, in order to be a lesbian there are a few factors that must be there; Genes and hormones. Enjoy :3
I'm speaking to you as a psychology student who refuse to conform to the queer movement
Gay bitches are sexually attracted to women because a region in their brains either took the wrong path during prenatal development because of a hormone distribution malfunction OR after-birth environmental factors sparked the rewiring of their brains causing them to emotionally atttach to the wrong damn sex.
A study by Lisa Diamnond shows late life gay bitches were NOT born gay.
I'm speaking to you as a psychology student who refuse to conform to the queer movement
Gay bitches are sexually attracted to women because a region in their brains either took the wrong path during prenatal development because of a hormone distribution malfunction OR after-birth environmental factors sparked the rewiring of their brains causing them to emotionally atttach to the wrong damn sex.
A study by Lisa Diamnond shows late life gay bitches were NOT born gay.
actually gay men can have their sperm put into a volunteering woman who has the child and lesbians can have sperm put into them from a sperm bank...so when you think about it gay people can have children they just have to out source
"actually gay men can have their sperm put into a volunteering woman who has the child and lesbians can have sperm put into them from a sperm bank"
BULLSHIT
This is charlie
Sperm banks have BANNED faggots from donating sperm because they are some std infected nasty faggots....The federal scientists won' t conform to the pressures of gays. SAFTETY comes first.
@CharlieBoyCheckm one how is a woman having sperm put into their bodies unsafe? i understand the possibility of a gay man having an std and having it put into a woman being unsafe but there is also a chance of a straight man putting his dick in a woman and giving stds also not every gay man has an std
"but there is also a chance of a straight man putting his dick in a woman and giving stds"
The data regarding std's among straight men doesn't raise a red flag according to the federal scientists.
Why can't you gays accept reality for what is???? Gay men are a threat to public health....
If gays tried to create a population with gay male sperm donors and lesbians, they're headed for MAJOR prolems including record breaking std infections
@CharlieBoyCheckm one im not gay im a gay rights supporter and two i actually looked up the sperm bank thing and both of the articles i read said nothing about lesbians. also you have been quoting specific parts of my comments but you did not respond to the entire comment
and both of the articles i read said nothing about lesbians.
That's a red herring fallacy. The bottom line is, lesbians use sperm banks and faggots are banned from donating sperm...I actually called a major sperm bank and the lady told me 90 percent of their clients are lesblans.
@CharlieBoyCheckm okay that seems perfectly fine to me though it is very insulting to call a gay man a faggot and is just as bad as say calling a black man the n word, a Chinese man a chink, or a Mexican man a beaner
First of all, faggots aren't a race. Why do you queer thinkers constantly use race as an attempt to appeal to emotions??? why won't use a more accurate comparison like beastiality or incest???
When faggots and gay bitches stop FALSELY labeling people "homophobes", maybe I'll show some respect.
Not al blacks are "niggers" but all gay men are faggots.
@CharlieBoyCheckm they call people homophobes because that is the known term for bigots against homosexuality and i never said gay people were a race i was saying that it is insulting a fixed set of people and also the definition of nigger is "a derogatory name for a black person" so that would mean all black would be considered niggers even though the word is offensive just as faggot is offensive. also you even label yourself as an atheist homophobe and say people shouldn't say it.
@KrazyEngima "they call people homophobes because that is the known term for bigots against homosexuality"
You mean it's a commonly used MISNOMER and it's COMMONLY used INCORRECTLY for the sake of insulting and verbally attacking their opponents into social and or political submission..In other words, DECEIT and CONTORTION is a common practice among gay marriage supporters..I say redefine it and recognize it as people who are simply disgusted by gays because that's what it really is
" i never said gay people were a race i was saying that it is insulting a fixed set of people and also the definition of nigger"
I treat queers like I treat white racists.... When white racist call me "nigger", I call them hunkies and crackers....Queers call us "homophobe" and "bigot", so I call them faggots and gay bitches....That's just me
You are insinuating that we view faggots and gay bitches as if they were a race so you are suggesting that we become DELUSIONAL
"because unlike beastiality or incest, homosexuality is not a choice"
If people have a desire to fuck animals, it's not a choice either. Just like a faggot has a desire to have dick stuffed in his shit hole. The desire is there so therefore, it' s not a choice.
"because unlike beastiality or incest, homosexuality is not a choice"
It rape is not involved, any sexual act by a human is a choice but the choice is fueled by desire. Beastiality participants, incest couples and queers are all the way they are because of desire
Im a female and I'm disgusted by homosexuals and its not a phobia its just a feeling i get when i see them if it was a phobia i wouldnt want to stand next to them thats not the case i just find it un human like for two men who are not suppose to procreate having sex!!!
@jusrayne Unless they're actually performing sex acts in front of you, you're just torturing yourself. The point of disgust being brought up in the video is that it is irrelevant to how we treat others; many of us don't like watching obese couples making out in public, but we tend to be civil and not make a big scene and just walk on by or turn around. Disgust also is arbitrary. The idea that it's nature's way of keeping us safe isnt' consistent; kids don't like eating veggies for example.
If procreation is your rationale, I imagine you must really hate the vast majority of sex that occurs in our species and most others, since that which facilitates procreation occurs so little. Sex is a complicated activity that performs a variety of functions in a variety of species, including our own. As for your "disgust," bully for you; I'm disgusted when I see people walking around in nylon track suits. I'm disgusted when I see people eating in certain ways. I'm disgusted by...
STUDY shows even sexual attraction is heavily influenced by procreation even if the person is infertile. When women are ovulating, they release a scent in which attracts straight men and gay women.. The question is, how do gays fit into this???? There's only one answer...They are MALFUNCTIONED
Characteristics that are typically sexually attractive also tends to be healthy and good for procreation.
A: Just saying "study shows" means fuck all unless you cite it.
B: The studies you DO cite almost universally don't say what you rpcolaim them to; you obviously HAVEN'T read them; only scanned them and extracted whatever you presume confirms your own prejudice. Confirmation Bias: look it up.
C: Bruce Bagemihl: Biological Exuberance.
D: You've been exposed citing "sources" from Creationist and Christian instituions in the past such as the F.R.C...
@ExaggeratedElegy I said faggots elicit disgust....MANY STUDIES shows this. I said many disgusts is a disease avoidance behavior Evidence that disgust evolved to protect from risk of disease Val Curtis*, Robert Aunger and Tamer Rabie Hygiene Centre, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Kepple Street, London WC1E 7HT, UK * Author for correspondence (val.curtis@lshtm.ac.uk). Recd 14.10.03; Accptd 17.11.03; Published online 19.01.04
...and N.A.R.T.H, demonstrating that you don't check the validity of your sources or even bother reading them. You really are the bottom of the barrell; the most tribal, hostile, un-self aware bigot I have ever had the misfortune to come across.
"and N.A.R.T.H, demonstrating that you don't check the validity of your sources or even bother reading them"
Downplaying a claim based on a group's position is in fact an AD HOMINEM FALLACY. The position of the person stating a claim is irrelevant to the validity of the claim.
Are you really dumb enough to deem EVERY SINGLE ONE of narth's claims as "invalid"??? All I need is ONE valid claim to prove you wrong..DUMB ASS
"NARTH is a clear anti gay group trying to brainwash homosexuals"
Hey dumb ass
Their position doesn't automatically make every one of their claims invalid. You pro gay atheists are just as dumb as Christians....YOu're spewing an AD HOMINEM FALLACY
"Being Easily Disgusted Associated with Implicit Disapproval of Gays"
That means faggots elicit disgust, dumb ass..
People who are easily disgusted are NOT disgusted by things that DON'T elicit disgust...Faggots have to elicit disgust before anyone can be disgusted by them in the first place
A bit of fallacious reasoning to match your own: Then you must be a "faggot" because you elicit disgust. 0.o
"That means faggots elicit disgust, dumb ass.."
Actually, that means there's a link between being easily disgusted and disapproving of gays. This means that if you disapprove of gays, you're more likely to be disgusted by them, or vice versa. It doesn't mean gays elicit disgust. This is a "correlation does not imply causation" fallacy, troll.
"Actually, that means there's a link between being easily disgusted and disapproving of gays. This means that if you disapprove of gays, you're more likely to be disgusted by them"
BULLSHIT,
You're in DENIAL....The disgust of faggots CAUSES a disapproval of faggots. Other studies shows moral judgement is rooted in disgust... Even many straight people who support gay marriage are disgusted by faggots....
Why are fags SO CONCERNED about STRIAGHT MEN'S disgust of fags????
@CharlieBoyCheckm Exclaiming "BULLSHIT" every time someone disagrees with you isn't conducive to anything but to show your disapproval, which is already evidenced by your counter arguments. 0.o
"The disgust of faggots CAUSES a disapproval of faggots."
This is a "correlation does not imply causation" fallacy. I thought I mentioned this already. Oh, look, I did.
You are obviously a faggot. You don't even understand how much faggots disgust us...
I'll HELP YOU understand
The simple thought of a man wanting to be sexually active with another man is enough to elicit disgust. All we have to know is he's a faggot. We don't have to think about sex. All we have to do is think about the definition of a faggot.
If a man says he fucks muddy pigs on a daily basis, all you have to do is be aware of it and it could elicit disgust
...a hell of alot, but it's a passing incidence; much of which provokes the reaction has no quantifiable or lasting effect. Furthermore, there are a whole host of sexual activities that I find fairly distasteful, but no one's forcing me to engage in them, and the free practice thereof affects me not one jot.
"Furthermore, there are a whole host of sexual activities that I find fairly distasteful, but no one's forcing me to engage in them, and the free practice thereof affects me not one jot"
The disgust is a defense system JUST IN CASE a faggot tries to come on to straight men. The disgust factor will prevent it from happening.....Disgust is deeply imbedded in your heteroseuxality.
What ever you're disgusted by, show some STUDIES to prove it. Don't just say it to argue
A problem with gays uis that they want not just equal right bit exceptiilnal rights.
why the hell homosexuals should have more rights that bachelors? assuming G do not want any kind of marriage I just cant enjoy privileges of married people
isn't that discrimination? why gays should have more rights that I have?
I also demand to have same rights as married people.
I have no intention to marry neither man or woman, however i also want to have same rights ant privileges like tax cuts, bonuses, healthcare and everything else like married people have.
@deltaxcd I don't want to get married at all, for any reason.
Explain to me how gays want more rights than unmarried people. Don't type any words that don't involve an expaination of how gays want more rights than unmarried people.
Do you understand? NOTHING...but how gays want more rights. This shouldn't be hard to do.
@deltaxcd No, married gays would absolutly not have more rights than straight singles. Any straight single person has the right to get married.
Married gays would have benefits that straight singles don't get, but not more rights.
If a straight single person chooses not to get married, they don't get that benefits of marrige.
So no, gays would only have benefits that straight singles don't get. That doesn't change the fact that the straight single person still has the right to get married.
"gays would only have benefits that straight singles don't get. "
Thats all I wanted to prove. You agree that married gays will enjoy more benefits that straight singles?
And here we move to they definition of marriage. Now, to get these benefits you are required to marry someone from opposite sex, gays want to change that to include same sex, however even if that will sound stupid, why i cant demand to be allowed to marry myself, or my pet dog?
@deltaxcd Yes, married gays would have BENEFITS that straight singles wouldn't, but they would not have more RIGHTS. Just like straight married people and straight singles.
Straight singles & straiht married people have the same exact RIGHTS.
Your whole point was that gays want more rights than straight people. You are flat out wrong & you are confused about the benefits.
About marrying yourself, look at why you get benefits for being married. Your dog, Marrige requires consent.
If we use your logic, gays already have same rights as straight, go get benefits of marriage they just need to marry someone from opposite sex.
I don't see how is that different from requirement for single to marry someone from opposite sex.
The fact that gays do not want to marry opposite sex is quite same as fact that i don't want to marry any human being, so we both refuse to marry and both don't get these benefits. I think that quite right.
@deltaxcd Straight people have the right to marry anyone they "want". NOTE: If they're straight, they obviously "want" to marry someone of the opposite sex.
Gay people do not have the right to marry anyone they "want". NOTE: Obviously they "want" to marry someone of the same sex.
Straight people can marry the person they love. Gays can't(for the most part).
Even If I am straight I may want to marry my roommate of same sex, just for marriage benefits or for another legal reasons. I do not need to have sex with him just because we are married.
So it is not absolutely obvious that straight must desire to marry woman.
Today, marriage is just legal contract that has no other meaning besides of my mentioned benefits.
Marriage is completely unrelated to love or sex, that's outdated when you had to be married to have sex or live together.
by saying that you probably mean that gays cant get marriage benefits from making legal contract with someone they love.
Gays are free to sign any marriage contracts, just that they wont get benefits from government for doing that.
I do not see any reason why we should provide these retarded benefits to even more people that we have already. It would be best to cancel all marriage benefits for everyone and solve all problems at once.
I know homophobe atheists too. Also it would be very amusing to witness the double standars by asking them what they think about female homosexuals. A guy once said that if he had a son that turned out gay he'd kill him but if he had a lesbian daughter he wouldn't have a problem at all. It's commonly known as "thinking with the other head". As for the stupid "choice" argument personally I'm straight but I'd much prefer to be bisexual. Unfortunately it's not a matter of choice so I stay straight.
Actually you can chose. it is quite possible to become bisexual if you are gay or straight, that is especially easy for women. all you need is to defeat your repulsion against same sex people.
you meet beautiful woman and fall in love, then you find out that she has a penis.
what makes you feel like if you had arachnophobia and someone drops spider in your bed.
if you could defeat that penis-phobia you could live with that man happily because in all other ways he is perfect for you. in fact if he makes plastic surgery to remove that offending bodypart, I am sure you will have no problems anymore.
@deltaxcd If I meet a beautiful woman and fall in love with her then she probably looked and sounded like a woman. She could also be a robot and look human on the outside, what does that mean? That I love machines and I should be a mechanic because I fell in love with a robot even though I thought it was a woman? Come on. And no I would like a hole between her legs, what am I supposed to do with an other dick? I already have one, I need something new to play with, not yet an other dick.
So assuming that woman lost her "hole" in some accident there is no chance you will ever like her?
I wonder which one you would choose real woman with beard and hairy chest that looks like thug and swears like some pirate, or beautiful transvestite that looks way better than average woman except that there is that little problem.
I would definitely select second option.
this is because that transvestite has more features I like and less that i hate.
@deltaxcd No that's not what I meant. But a woman with a dick is not exactly a woman. And if you put a gun to my head and make me choose between the woman with the beard and the transvestite that's an other story. You present me with 2 extremes and assume which one I'd choose. Without a gun on my head I'd choose non of them otherwise I'd chose the second too. As for everyone being bisexual and "told to like features that mostly belong to opposite sex and hate that belongs to our own" I'll have..
but in conclusion, humans are all quite asexual, all we care about collection of some kind of features.
Everybody is bisexual, just that most of us have quite limited range of likable features and so it would be hard to find acceptable partner of same sex.
we are told to like features that mostly belong to opposite sex and hate that belongs to our own.
@deltaxcd 2) have to disagree. It's nature that made us that way so that we can procreate. Humans have reached a point where we can have sex for fun too besides procreation so we don't have to be all straight, but it wasn't "tought" to us. If by our nature we where bisexual we would have no problem today and we wouldn't have become straight and gay. I don't find disgusting other men, neither I feel like I puke if I see 2 guys kissing or fucking, I just can't feel any attraction towards them...
I claim that we are all omnisexual , because we lost Jacobson's organ which is used to define sex for all other species on earth, other animals make it quite simple they are controlled by pheromones.
Humans do not have any way to tell who is their partner, so we rely on experiences and education.
The fact that you do not find men disgusting, means that you have big potential to turn that into attraction.
All you need is some positive reinforcement. Human mind is quite flexible.
@deltaxcd 3) no matter what. I'd love to cause in my opinion bisexuality is far better than straightness and gayness but I just can't. Maybe it is easier for women, maybe women have higher chances of being bisexual, I don't know but for me it won't work.
Of course it is impossible that you start liking men just next morning, however, you can start by watching transvestite porn or read manga about dick girls, where that theme is just secondary and your ind will associate it with pleasure.
it all depends on experience,
some time before I was quite homophobic, but how I am quite aroused be some kinds of gay activities. I still strongly prefer women, but men are also acceptable somehow. Now I am aroused by all possible fetishes.
@deltaxcd Hahahaha hentai is always the way. Also, homosexuality isn't a fetish. Also, all possible fetishes? That includes sadomasochisme, being urinated on(!), eating shit(!?!?!), fucking animals etcetera etcetera etcetera. I don't think there is any human that likes all of them just like there isn't any human that likes all music genres for example. And what is Jacobson's organ? I'm too lazy to google it -_-
I like to watch them all. There is almost nothing in porn that may turn me down. I do not like something that is painful for me or smells bad but otherwise it is ok.
Jacobson's organ is basically sense of smell that responds to pheromones.
it is like glutamate sense for humans. if there is glutamate in you food you find is tasty even if it is made of dog poop. Jacobson's organ controls sexual response in same way. If right pheromone is present animal is aroused sexually.
Smell has no effect here. Pheromones directly control brain to trigger genetically preprogrammed response. humans generally do not have that organ and do not respond to pheromones, but some people still have some remains and probably can be affected.
Seems like Mr. Check'm is just trying to overcompensate for that lisp of his, which such lisps tend to be portrayed as a homosexual trait in a lot of mainstream media. It's okay if you are gay, Charlie, and it's okay if you are anything else (hetero, bi, pan, a, or whatever other sexuality that "floats your boat," so long as it's not coercive or harmful to others). Regardless, the plethora of logical fallacies (such as no true scotsman, poisoning the well, etymological, etc) have got to go...
@Antifides Hahaha. That is pretty awesome. I guess in order to be straight, according to him I have to be disgusted by gay men AND be perfectly still.
Um, I'm straight, but I find the idea of obese straight people having sex is far more disgusting to me than 2 decent looking gay men. So should we stop obese people from getting married? Also, I think 2 women kissing is hot. So I'm actually not disgusted by homosexuality at all. Frankly a lot of the arguments Charlie makes looks equivalent to me as "Ew! They have cooties!"
everyone should just stop wasting their time with evolvedatheist1. he is still living in the dark ages, he is not evolved at all and gives atheism a bad name. i think he is a poe.
Actually Biologists have figured out when people become gay... During development the sexualization of the brain happens after the physical stuff... The default state of the brain of a human fetus is female and males generally have their brains masculanized shortly after birth if i remember correctly... biologists can make gay rats at will by manipulating the chemical background during the usual masculanisation phase which in rats is before birth .... from " The Teaching Company... The Brain
Hey, Charlie, I've been wondering. How does this disgust that I feel towards gays work? If I'm walking down the street and I see someone that has no outward appearance of being gay but is gay, will I feel disgust? What if I see two guys walking together? What if I see two guys walking together holding hands? What if it's two straight guys holding hands for some unknown reason?
Since you don't feel disgust for straight guys, is it okay for a straight guy to give you a hand job?
If a person is gay but doesn't look gay, there's no disgust factor because the disgust comes from the thought of male same sex sexual activity or sexual attracstion... If a straight man wants to give a hand job, than that straight man wouldn't be considered "straight.....Two guys walking down the street holding hands sends off the message that they could be sexually active in which elicits disgust.
@EvolvedAtheist1 When you see two men holding hands, you think about them having sex? Holy crap you're gay. Why do you want to keep other people like you from getting married?
Also, I believe "sexually attracted to one's own gender" is the qualification for being gay. Perhaps the guy wants to give you a hand job for another reason. That's not really relevant to the question.
"When you see two men holding hands, you think about them having sex?"
BULLSHIT
That's a STRAW MAN FALLACY
I said they send off the message that they could be sexual active..If you see a woman treating a dog as if the dog is her sexual partner, what would you think???? It would send off the message that she's fucking the dog.
@EvolvedAtheist1 You: "because the disgust comes from the THOUGHT of male same sex sexual activity"
Me: "When you see two men holding hands, you THINK about them having sex?"
Could you point out, please, exactly where I misrepresented your argument?
Oh, I've got it. I assumed you felt disgust, but I don't remember you actually saying you do. I'm misrepresenting your argument with that assumption, right?
"When you see two men holding hands, you THINK about them having sex"
BULLSHIT
I said that sends a message that they could be sexually active.
Being aware that two people are sexually active is FAR different from thinking about sex. If you assume a man and woman is sexually active with eachother, does that mean you're thinking about the act of sex????
IN other words, those two men aren't just friends. They're doing things that lovers do
According to your queer, twisted logic, if a woman's body motions convinces you that she's sexually active with a dog, that means you like fucking dogs
Now do you see how stupid and irrational you are????
@EvolvedAtheist1 Oops, I said that was a strawman. It wasn't. Let's try again.
For the record: "According to your queer, twisted logic, if a woman's body motions convinces you that she's sexually active with a dog, that means you like fucking dogs"
Homosexuality is fairly common, therefore two men holding hands doesn't engender any further thought.
A woman acting like she's sexually active with a dog is extremely uncommon and would provoke further thought.
The reason you made the analogy was to compare how one's mind would react to the two scenarios. The answer is: differently. It follows that your analogy is false.
"Homosexuality is fairly common, therefore two men holding hands doesn't engender any further thought"
You just proved that you really don't realize how disgusting that faggot shit is. Two men holding hands is some awkard gay shit. The only time I see faggots holding hands is when I pass through longbeach during the gay festival.
"Hey, dipshit, I quoted you saying "thought". You don't think when you have thoughts?"
Hey dumb ass
There's a difference between thinking about a couple being "sexually active" and thinking about a "sex act". I specifically mentioned thinking about them being "sexually active". In other words, I'm simply conscious that they're on the level of having sex. It's like knowing your parents are sexually active but without specifically thinking about the sex act
@CharlieBoyCheckm Hey, dipshit, I quoted you saying "thought". You don't think when you have thoughts? So, again, no strawman, because I said "think" and you said "thought" and therefore I correctly represented your position. How fucking stupid are you?
I wonder who marries all of the animals out there in the wild.
Also, is Charlie now trying to redefine "backbone"?
It's really hard to believe he's a troll when he argues so vehemently in verbal conversations.
It's really hard to believe he's not a troll when he acts like he doesn't understand what simple words and phrases mean and argues about that instead of the point the person was making.
In other words, a loving marriage is VERY beneficial to procreation, reproduction and raising children....Now, man and woman happen to have the right combination of brains and organs to come together and reproduce...Sex often involves emotional bonding in which is perfect for man and woman to make a baby and get married or get married and make a baby...
@EvolvedAtheist1 That's not what "backbone" means. After you have retracted your position regarding gays as utterly unsupportable, you should work on your vocabulary. Make sure you retract those claims of strawman on that person who used "backbone" correctly. It's not his fault YOU misrepresented your own argument.
@EvolvedAtheist1 Procreation - happening since several billion years ago, despite the absence of the "main support" or "major sustaining factor" of marriage.
Oh hey, that means you used "backbone" wrong.
Now that we've gotten your minor misconception cleared up, let's revisit the big one:
Homosexuals getting married is a simple matter of rights. There's no desire to seduce straight people. There's no hidden agenda. Got it? Good. Now shut up and take it in the ass.
@EvolvedAtheist1 Planes, trains, bicycles, motorcycles, walking, scooters, skateboards, buses, subways... sorry, what was your point again?
Let's pretend you're right: Procreation is barely feasible without marriage. Now what?
If gays get married, will all those women who are apparently passively waiting for a man to come by and marry them not be able to get married anymore? Or will they not be able to procreate anymore? Will married gays make them sterile?
1. Faggots could never enjoy bareback sex without the serious risk of contracting deadly std's.
On the other hand, heteros enjoy bareback sex all the time. That's how we make babies but faggots are still more prone to contracting std's even compared to heteros who don't use protection
2. Faggots and gay bitches can't enjoy making love while making a baby. There's nothing better than having passionate sex and have a baby come out of it.
You're incredible. I love you.
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tigersforchrist 5 days ago
People always talk about gays, but they are really just reffering specifically to men, no one seemsd to care about lesbians. (who by the way are statistically less likely to contract STDs than even straight couples.)
MaherLeary 1 week ago
ohhgod xDD I nearly pissed myself when he said that there were gay gangs raping guys to spread STI's, it's just too braindead! I live in holland, and something like that would certainly have been featured in the news at least once in the 22 years I have been alive xDD
Raithial 1 week ago
I personally know people who joined religions they didn't believe in SOLELY because they're disgusted by all this pro gay BS! Its like no one has concepts like honour or dignity anymore. Everyone just wants to behave like an animal. Just because you "feel" something doesn't make it right.
Look at the HIV/AID charities links in the description. Why do HIV/AID charities get so much more funding than cancer or Alzheimers charities ? Because HIV/AID is trendy because gay is trendy
BountyHunter7520 1 week ago
@FagsDisgustAtheist
Charlie...please. Get off your computer, pick up the phone and get some help. Seriously.
hiraikotsuember 2 weeks ago
Fuck you Charlie.
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LOL, I like GI, he is cool. "I am celibate right now"
I just always thought of it as permanent due to religion, but I guess everybody is celibate now and again. Like right after I have sex, I just want a nap, but not sex at all. I am celibate during those times.
I think he is giving Charlie too much publicity, but I'm glad he's making these distinctions for others who may have the same beliefs.
Preach on my good man. Ahoy ahoy.
shabido1 1 month ago
There is air-tight argument and then there is this. Well done! Personally, I think Charlie is suffering from some kind of personality disorder that is not well controlled, or at all.
TheCaptainD82 1 month ago
I'm Glad there are people like GrapplingIgnorance on youtube... You make very well fortified and thought out debates, At the very best you are one of the few who understands how to truly debate. I've been watching a few of your videos and i've tried to share with all of my known friends. I hope for you to continue your videos they inspire me to also make a youtube channel in which i can Help people understand many of the misconeptions they have now
TheCurseddeath 1 month ago
@TheCurseddeath Thank you for that. Go forth and do big things!
GrapplingIgnorance 1 month ago
wow... i have watched a few of your videos, just found the channel tonight-your stuff is great!! keep up the good work!
IVEGOTAPRESENTFORYOU 1 month ago
@IVEGOTAPRESENTFORYOU Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 month ago
Wow... this guy is just dumb.
mooseflier 1 month ago
Poor charlie... Hopfully he comes out of that hateful closet soon.
tuliptutu 1 month ago
@GrapplingIgnorance i think he his trolling my page right now as we speak under the name of AtheistMusicChannel ... my video is called "Cheers! You're an atheist" /watch?v=sLJsiBE2Nno , check it out and let me know if you think it's him
thereligioussnitch 1 month ago
@thereligioussnitch Yes- it has to be him. If you look at that channel page, he's favorited a video of himself on ANOTHER channel, called "OpposeGayMarriage." I've only met one person who would ever favorite a video of his... and it's him.
GrapplingIgnorance 1 month ago 3
''You can't be an atheist because you oppose gay marriage''
I think what they meant by that is:
1. As an atheist there is no rational or logical secular argument that you can posit against gay marriage.
2. Charlie was so fanatical about his hatred for homosexuals that they didn't believe that he was an atheist but a believer pretending to be one.
Moh5Itachi1 3 months ago 10
@Moh5Itachi1
"1. As an atheist there is no rational or logical secular argument that you can posit against gay marriage".
Are you willing to make the same claim about gay incest????
FagsDisgustAtheist 2 months ago
@FagsDisgustAtheist Gay incest and homosexuality are two different things. That issue should be discussed just like another. We evaluate the pro's and con's and come to a reasonable conclusion as to how to deal with it. Not to see the difference is simply not to see the difference.
''They are DELUSIONAL for believing ALL negative views of queers MUST be influenced by religion'' The point was that you came off as a typical fundie.
Moh5Itachi1 2 months ago
@FagsDisgustAtheist We better ban straight marriage then; afterall, it could lead lots of STRAIGHT INCEST! OH NOES!!!
KendallHartz 1 month ago
@Moh5Itachi1
"2. Charlie was so fanatical about his hatred for homosexuals that they didn't believe that he was an atheist but a believer pretending to be one."
They are DELUSIONAL for believing ALL negative views of queers MUST be influenced by religion
FagsDisgustAtheist 2 months ago
Disgust and Fear are Closely Related.
Moh5Itachi1 3 months ago
@Moh5Itachi1
"disgust and Fear are Closely Related"
That's irrrelevant. You're trying to downplay disgust but study shows expression of disgust is actually BENEFICIAL
FagsDisgustAtheist 2 months ago
It's hard to believe this charlie guy is for real. I think he's just trolling.
funknotik 3 months ago
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@funknotik
"hard to believe this charlie guy is for real. I think he's just trolling"
That's because your gay brain is DELUSIONAL....
FagsDisgustAtheist 2 months ago
@FagsDisgustAtheist no way, you got ANOTHER account?
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
where is charlie's response? I want to hear him fail.
lilnoobito 4 months ago
@lilnoobito Look at the comment section. He posts as Charlieboycheck'm and EvolvedAtheist1.
GrapplingIgnorance 4 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance Thanks for the info. I'm listing to those videos now. You can hear his plans breaking when only a few questions are asked. As if Charlie was expecting that no questions would be asked at all.
lilnoobito 4 months ago
@lilnoobito yeah good point.......how exactly did that go............i'm almost willing to put money on it.....that it didn't go at all............yeah he knew he was owned. Grapple.....damn your good
TheeJediSmurf 1 month ago
lol Brazilians... same here man! I got a great dance (grind) form one at my last school dance!
SturFriedBrains 5 months ago
If you want a explanation to to why Gay men have the highest risk of STD, then I would suggest reading "How the Mind works" chapter family values. This isn't anti-gay bias, but just a honest answer. It was a great book and a national best seller.
bmehoota 5 months ago
I thought I should mention that gay women are much less likely to contract STI's than either straight women or straight men. So according to most of Charlies arguments, Lesbians are perfectly fine.
muta4thefail 5 months ago
@muta4thefail
"So according to most of Charlies arguments, Lesbians are perfectly fine"
I didn't mention lesbians so you just spewed a red herring fallacy
When women ovulate, they release a scent in which attracts men...That ovoluation scent also attracts gay women. The problem is, gay women can't reproduce so why are lesbians attracted to a scent that signifies fertility???? There's only one explanation.. GAY BITCHES ARE MALFUNCTIONED....They're stuck with the wrong damn brain
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm Charlie, I am speaking to you as a psychologist. I won't get too into brain mechanics, partially because you won't understand it (I barely do so a layman won't). Lesbians are physically attracted to women in much the same way straight women are attracted to men. Their brains are wired differently, yes, BUT there are also hormonal factors to consider. Essentially, in order to be a lesbian there are a few factors that must be there; Genes and hormones. Enjoy :3
Darthmas2242 5 months ago
@Darthmas2242
I'm speaking to you as a psychology student who refuse to conform to the queer movement
Gay bitches are sexually attracted to women because a region in their brains either took the wrong path during prenatal development because of a hormone distribution malfunction OR after-birth environmental factors sparked the rewiring of their brains causing them to emotionally atttach to the wrong damn sex.
A study by Lisa Diamnond shows late life gay bitches were NOT born gay.
EvolvedAtheist1 5 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 really? you can go to clown college and study psychology?
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@Darthmas2242
I'm speaking to you as a psychology student who refuse to conform to the queer movement
Gay bitches are sexually attracted to women because a region in their brains either took the wrong path during prenatal development because of a hormone distribution malfunction OR after-birth environmental factors sparked the rewiring of their brains causing them to emotionally atttach to the wrong damn sex.
A study by Lisa Diamnond shows late life gay bitches were NOT born gay.
EvolvedAtheist1 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm
So people are born gay? Thank you for admiting this.
muta4thefail 5 months ago
WOW. He loses. OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER.
JazLyte 5 months ago
actually gay men can have their sperm put into a volunteering woman who has the child and lesbians can have sperm put into them from a sperm bank...so when you think about it gay people can have children they just have to out source
KrazyEngima 6 months ago
@KrazyEngima
"actually gay men can have their sperm put into a volunteering woman who has the child and lesbians can have sperm put into them from a sperm bank"
BULLSHIT
This is charlie
Sperm banks have BANNED faggots from donating sperm because they are some std infected nasty faggots....The federal scientists won' t conform to the pressures of gays. SAFTETY comes first.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm one how is a woman having sperm put into their bodies unsafe? i understand the possibility of a gay man having an std and having it put into a woman being unsafe but there is also a chance of a straight man putting his dick in a woman and giving stds also not every gay man has an std
KrazyEngima 5 months ago
@KrazyEngima
"but there is also a chance of a straight man putting his dick in a woman and giving stds"
The data regarding std's among straight men doesn't raise a red flag according to the federal scientists.
Why can't you gays accept reality for what is???? Gay men are a threat to public health....
If gays tried to create a population with gay male sperm donors and lesbians, they're headed for MAJOR prolems including record breaking std infections
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm one im not gay im a gay rights supporter and two i actually looked up the sperm bank thing and both of the articles i read said nothing about lesbians. also you have been quoting specific parts of my comments but you did not respond to the entire comment
KrazyEngima 5 months ago
@KrazyEngima
and both of the articles i read said nothing about lesbians.
That's a red herring fallacy. The bottom line is, lesbians use sperm banks and faggots are banned from donating sperm...I actually called a major sperm bank and the lady told me 90 percent of their clients are lesblans.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm okay that seems perfectly fine to me though it is very insulting to call a gay man a faggot and is just as bad as say calling a black man the n word, a Chinese man a chink, or a Mexican man a beaner
KrazyEngima 5 months ago
@KrazyEngima
First of all, faggots aren't a race. Why do you queer thinkers constantly use race as an attempt to appeal to emotions??? why won't use a more accurate comparison like beastiality or incest???
When faggots and gay bitches stop FALSELY labeling people "homophobes", maybe I'll show some respect.
Not al blacks are "niggers" but all gay men are faggots.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm they call people homophobes because that is the known term for bigots against homosexuality and i never said gay people were a race i was saying that it is insulting a fixed set of people and also the definition of nigger is "a derogatory name for a black person" so that would mean all black would be considered niggers even though the word is offensive just as faggot is offensive. also you even label yourself as an atheist homophobe and say people shouldn't say it.
KrazyEngima 5 months ago
@KrazyEngima "they call people homophobes because that is the known term for bigots against homosexuality"
You mean it's a commonly used MISNOMER and it's COMMONLY used INCORRECTLY for the sake of insulting and verbally attacking their opponents into social and or political submission..In other words, DECEIT and CONTORTION is a common practice among gay marriage supporters..I say redefine it and recognize it as people who are simply disgusted by gays because that's what it really is
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@KrazyEngima
" i never said gay people were a race i was saying that it is insulting a fixed set of people and also the definition of nigger"
I treat queers like I treat white racists.... When white racist call me "nigger", I call them hunkies and crackers....Queers call us "homophobe" and "bigot", so I call them faggots and gay bitches....That's just me
You are insinuating that we view faggots and gay bitches as if they were a race so you are suggesting that we become DELUSIONAL
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
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@CharlieBoyCheckm ok fine this is going to go on forever so lets just agree to disagree
KrazyEngima 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm oh so only you can use derogatory terms?
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm because unlike beastiality or incest, homosexuality is not a choice
all blacks are niggers, but not all gay men are faggots
youre just a nigger in denial
mermaidsareppl222 5 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222
"because unlike beastiality or incest, homosexuality is not a choice"
If people have a desire to fuck animals, it's not a choice either. Just like a faggot has a desire to have dick stuffed in his shit hole. The desire is there so therefore, it' s not a choice.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm didn't realize that bundles of sticks had those feelings or urges
mermaidsareppl222 5 months ago
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@mermaidsareppl222
"because unlike beastiality or incest, homosexuality is not a choice"
It rape is not involved, any sexual act by a human is a choice but the choice is fueled by desire. Beastiality participants, incest couples and queers are all the way they are because of desire
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm actually all blacks are niggers
by mere definition of the word
and how are gay men bundles of sticks?
mermaidsareppl222 2 months ago
I could only watch 8min of this your voice erks me..
jusrayne 6 months ago
Im a female and I'm disgusted by homosexuals and its not a phobia its just a feeling i get when i see them if it was a phobia i wouldnt want to stand next to them thats not the case i just find it un human like for two men who are not suppose to procreate having sex!!!
jusrayne 6 months ago
@jusrayne Unless they're actually performing sex acts in front of you, you're just torturing yourself. The point of disgust being brought up in the video is that it is irrelevant to how we treat others; many of us don't like watching obese couples making out in public, but we tend to be civil and not make a big scene and just walk on by or turn around. Disgust also is arbitrary. The idea that it's nature's way of keeping us safe isnt' consistent; kids don't like eating veggies for example.
poolerboy0077 5 months ago
@jusrayne
If procreation is your rationale, I imagine you must really hate the vast majority of sex that occurs in our species and most others, since that which facilitates procreation occurs so little. Sex is a complicated activity that performs a variety of functions in a variety of species, including our own. As for your "disgust," bully for you; I'm disgusted when I see people walking around in nylon track suits. I'm disgusted when I see people eating in certain ways. I'm disgusted by...
ExaggeratedElegy 5 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
This is Charlie,
STUDY shows even sexual attraction is heavily influenced by procreation even if the person is infertile. When women are ovulating, they release a scent in which attracts straight men and gay women.. The question is, how do gays fit into this???? There's only one answer...They are MALFUNCTIONED
Characteristics that are typically sexually attractive also tends to be healthy and good for procreation.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm
Study, study, study...
A: Just saying "study shows" means fuck all unless you cite it.
B: The studies you DO cite almost universally don't say what you rpcolaim them to; you obviously HAVEN'T read them; only scanned them and extracted whatever you presume confirms your own prejudice. Confirmation Bias: look it up.
C: Bruce Bagemihl: Biological Exuberance.
D: You've been exposed citing "sources" from Creationist and Christian instituions in the past such as the F.R.C...
ExaggeratedElegy 5 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
"The studies you DO cite almost universally don't say what you proclaim them to"
BULLSHIT
study shows faggots are 44 times more likely to contract hiv compared to hetero men..
source CDC....So are you wiiling to claim that the study didn't claim what I'm saying it claim?? Are you really dumb eought to go there?????
Studies shows faggots elicit disgust...THAT'S TRUE and it is EXACTLY what I stated
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm
...and N.A.R.T.H, demonstrating that you don't check the validity of your sources or even bother reading them. You really are the bottom of the barrell; the most tribal, hostile, un-self aware bigot I have ever had the misfortune to come across.
ExaggeratedElegy 5 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
"and N.A.R.T.H, demonstrating that you don't check the validity of your sources or even bother reading them"
Downplaying a claim based on a group's position is in fact an AD HOMINEM FALLACY. The position of the person stating a claim is irrelevant to the validity of the claim.
Are you really dumb enough to deem EVERY SINGLE ONE of narth's claims as "invalid"??? All I need is ONE valid claim to prove you wrong..DUMB ASS
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm NARTH is a clear anti gay group trying to brainwash homosexuals
mermaidsareppl222 5 months ago
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@mermaidsareppl222
"NARTH is a clear anti gay group trying to brainwash homosexuals"
Hey dumb ass
Their position doesn't automatically make every one of their claims invalid. You pro gay atheists are just as dumb as Christians....YOu're spewing an AD HOMINEM FALLACY
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
I said faggots elicit disgust
The study says,
"Being Easily Disgusted Associated with Implicit Disapproval of Gays"
That means faggots elicit disgust, dumb ass..
People who are easily disgusted are NOT disgusted by things that DON'T elicit disgust...Faggots have to elicit disgust before anyone can be disgusted by them in the first place
1.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm "faggots elicit disgust"
A bit of fallacious reasoning to match your own: Then you must be a "faggot" because you elicit disgust. 0.o
"That means faggots elicit disgust, dumb ass.."
Actually, that means there's a link between being easily disgusted and disapproving of gays. This means that if you disapprove of gays, you're more likely to be disgusted by them, or vice versa. It doesn't mean gays elicit disgust. This is a "correlation does not imply causation" fallacy, troll.
lagurash 5 months ago 3
@lagurash
"Actually, that means there's a link between being easily disgusted and disapproving of gays. This means that if you disapprove of gays, you're more likely to be disgusted by them"
BULLSHIT,
You're in DENIAL....The disgust of faggots CAUSES a disapproval of faggots. Other studies shows moral judgement is rooted in disgust... Even many straight people who support gay marriage are disgusted by faggots....
Why are fags SO CONCERNED about STRIAGHT MEN'S disgust of fags????
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
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@CharlieBoyCheckm Exclaiming "BULLSHIT" every time someone disagrees with you isn't conducive to anything but to show your disapproval, which is already evidenced by your counter arguments. 0.o
"The disgust of faggots CAUSES a disapproval of faggots."
This is a "correlation does not imply causation" fallacy. I thought I mentioned this already. Oh, look, I did.
"moral judgement is"
Can be, not always is.
"Even many "
Another baseless claim.
"Why are fags"
You're the one overly concerned, so...
lagurash 5 months ago
@lagurash
"there's a link between being easily disgusted and disapproving of gays"
hey dummy
They disapprove of gays BECAUSE they are disgusted by them, dummy...
The disgust of homos CAUSED them to disapprove of homos in the first place
The disgust leads to disapproval. Many things don't disgust anyone but faggots most definetely disgust people
AtheistMusicChannel 1 week ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
You are obviously a faggot. You don't even understand how much faggots disgust us...
I'll HELP YOU understand
The simple thought of a man wanting to be sexually active with another man is enough to elicit disgust. All we have to know is he's a faggot. We don't have to think about sex. All we have to do is think about the definition of a faggot.
If a man says he fucks muddy pigs on a daily basis, all you have to do is be aware of it and it could elicit disgust
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm Aww, you're adorable. Can I put you in my back yard with the rest of my animals?
TehDeminz 5 months ago
@jusrayne
...a hell of alot, but it's a passing incidence; much of which provokes the reaction has no quantifiable or lasting effect. Furthermore, there are a whole host of sexual activities that I find fairly distasteful, but no one's forcing me to engage in them, and the free practice thereof affects me not one jot.
ExaggeratedElegy 5 months ago
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@ExaggeratedElegy
"a hell of alot, but it's a passing incidence; much of which provokes the reaction has no quantifiable or lasting effect"
but the disgust serves it's purpose by causing humans to avoid things that are bad for us. As long as it's around, it's viewed as disgusting.
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
"Furthermore, there are a whole host of sexual activities that I find fairly distasteful, but no one's forcing me to engage in them, and the free practice thereof affects me not one jot"
The disgust is a defense system JUST IN CASE a faggot tries to come on to straight men. The disgust factor will prevent it from happening.....Disgust is deeply imbedded in your heteroseuxality.
What ever you're disgusted by, show some STUDIES to prove it. Don't just say it to argue
CharlieBoyCheckm 5 months ago
@jusrayne So... anal, oral, and sex where penetration of a vagina doesn't occur is unhuman?
TehDeminz 5 months ago
Wow, Charlie is a MEGA-TOOL. I heard him on the "Atheist Experience" and I was like "OMG, this dude is a mega-tool. His arguments make no sense."
Thanks for ripping him apart.
souljulez 6 months ago
11:04 lol I think that's the first time I heard you swear, probably not but it definitely stood out in this video.
Jaisears1 6 months ago
I might sound a wee uneducated, but what is the difference between pedophilia and pederasty?
AvocadoCake 6 months ago
@AvocadoCake
I was asking that question multiple times but only result is lots of anger.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
A problem with gays uis that they want not just equal right bit exceptiilnal rights.
why the hell homosexuals should have more rights that bachelors? assuming G do not want any kind of marriage I just cant enjoy privileges of married people
isn't that discrimination? why gays should have more rights that I have?
I also demand to have same rights as married people.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd WTF?
Is english your main language? How do they want more rights?
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
no, english is not my native language.
I have no intention to marry neither man or woman, however i also want to have same rights ant privileges like tax cuts, bonuses, healthcare and everything else like married people have.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd You're not making any sense. How do gays want more rights?
Gays don't get tax cuts, bonuses, healthcare etc.
I have no clue what you're talking about. I don't even know how to respond to you.
Just explain how gays want more rights. Don't tell me what you want, just tell me how gays are asking for more rights.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
Of course gays do not have any of these rights yet, but can you tell me why the hell they want to legalize gay marriage?
Are they so interested in that ritual, or they want to get same rights as straight married couples?
so in result gays want more rights that unmarried people, unless you explain why else they ever want to marry.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd That doesn't make any sense.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
I asked simple question, why would you want to marry someone if that does not give you any benefits than you have being unmarried.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd I don't want to get married at all, for any reason.
Explain to me how gays want more rights than unmarried people. Don't type any words that don't involve an expaination of how gays want more rights than unmarried people.
Do you understand? NOTHING...but how gays want more rights. This shouldn't be hard to do.
Jesus fucking christ man...
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
Ok,
Do you agree that, STRAIGHT married people, have more rights than STRAIGHT singles?
Would you agree that married GAY people will have more rights than GAY singles? (if their marriage will be equal to straight marriage)
In result: MARRIED GAY people will have more rights that SINGLE STRAIGHT people.
If there is something wrong in my logic please tell exactly where I am wrong.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd No, married gays would absolutly not have more rights than straight singles. Any straight single person has the right to get married.
Married gays would have benefits that straight singles don't get, but not more rights.
If a straight single person chooses not to get married, they don't get that benefits of marrige.
So no, gays would only have benefits that straight singles don't get. That doesn't change the fact that the straight single person still has the right to get married.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
"gays would only have benefits that straight singles don't get. "
Thats all I wanted to prove. You agree that married gays will enjoy more benefits that straight singles?
And here we move to they definition of marriage. Now, to get these benefits you are required to marry someone from opposite sex, gays want to change that to include same sex, however even if that will sound stupid, why i cant demand to be allowed to marry myself, or my pet dog?
I just want same benefits.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd Yes, married gays would have BENEFITS that straight singles wouldn't, but they would not have more RIGHTS. Just like straight married people and straight singles.
Straight singles & straiht married people have the same exact RIGHTS.
Your whole point was that gays want more rights than straight people. You are flat out wrong & you are confused about the benefits.
About marrying yourself, look at why you get benefits for being married. Your dog, Marrige requires consent.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
If we use your logic, gays already have same rights as straight, go get benefits of marriage they just need to marry someone from opposite sex.
I don't see how is that different from requirement for single to marry someone from opposite sex.
The fact that gays do not want to marry opposite sex is quite same as fact that i don't want to marry any human being, so we both refuse to marry and both don't get these benefits. I think that quite right.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd Straight people have the right to marry anyone they "want". NOTE: If they're straight, they obviously "want" to marry someone of the opposite sex.
Gay people do not have the right to marry anyone they "want". NOTE: Obviously they "want" to marry someone of the same sex.
Straight people can marry the person they love. Gays can't(for the most part).
So tell me, how do they have the same rights?
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Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
Even If I am straight I may want to marry my roommate of same sex, just for marriage benefits or for another legal reasons. I do not need to have sex with him just because we are married.
So it is not absolutely obvious that straight must desire to marry woman.
Today, marriage is just legal contract that has no other meaning besides of my mentioned benefits.
Marriage is completely unrelated to love or sex, that's outdated when you had to be married to have sex or live together.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd Gays still can't marry the person they love.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
by saying that you probably mean that gays cant get marriage benefits from making legal contract with someone they love.
Gays are free to sign any marriage contracts, just that they wont get benefits from government for doing that.
I do not see any reason why we should provide these retarded benefits to even more people that we have already. It would be best to cancel all marriage benefits for everyone and solve all problems at once.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd You speak terrible english. I cannot have this converstion wih you.
Sorry.
What is your native language?
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29
Lithuanian language.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
I know homophobe atheists too. Also it would be very amusing to witness the double standars by asking them what they think about female homosexuals. A guy once said that if he had a son that turned out gay he'd kill him but if he had a lesbian daughter he wouldn't have a problem at all. It's commonly known as "thinking with the other head". As for the stupid "choice" argument personally I'm straight but I'd much prefer to be bisexual. Unfortunately it's not a matter of choice so I stay straight.
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
Actually you can chose. it is quite possible to become bisexual if you are gay or straight, that is especially easy for women. all you need is to defeat your repulsion against same sex people.
This is same as dealing with some phobia.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd I doubt it. It's not the same as phobias.
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
ok, assume this:
you meet beautiful woman and fall in love, then you find out that she has a penis.
what makes you feel like if you had arachnophobia and someone drops spider in your bed.
if you could defeat that penis-phobia you could live with that man happily because in all other ways he is perfect for you. in fact if he makes plastic surgery to remove that offending bodypart, I am sure you will have no problems anymore.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd If I meet a beautiful woman and fall in love with her then she probably looked and sounded like a woman. She could also be a robot and look human on the outside, what does that mean? That I love machines and I should be a mechanic because I fell in love with a robot even though I thought it was a woman? Come on. And no I would like a hole between her legs, what am I supposed to do with an other dick? I already have one, I need something new to play with, not yet an other dick.
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
So assuming that woman lost her "hole" in some accident there is no chance you will ever like her?
I wonder which one you would choose real woman with beard and hairy chest that looks like thug and swears like some pirate, or beautiful transvestite that looks way better than average woman except that there is that little problem.
I would definitely select second option.
this is because that transvestite has more features I like and less that i hate.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd No that's not what I meant. But a woman with a dick is not exactly a woman. And if you put a gun to my head and make me choose between the woman with the beard and the transvestite that's an other story. You present me with 2 extremes and assume which one I'd choose. Without a gun on my head I'd choose non of them otherwise I'd chose the second too. As for everyone being bisexual and "told to like features that mostly belong to opposite sex and hate that belongs to our own" I'll have..
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
Sorry coud not fit on one page.
but in conclusion, humans are all quite asexual, all we care about collection of some kind of features.
Everybody is bisexual, just that most of us have quite limited range of likable features and so it would be hard to find acceptable partner of same sex.
we are told to like features that mostly belong to opposite sex and hate that belongs to our own.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd 2) have to disagree. It's nature that made us that way so that we can procreate. Humans have reached a point where we can have sex for fun too besides procreation so we don't have to be all straight, but it wasn't "tought" to us. If by our nature we where bisexual we would have no problem today and we wouldn't have become straight and gay. I don't find disgusting other men, neither I feel like I puke if I see 2 guys kissing or fucking, I just can't feel any attraction towards them...
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
I claim that we are all omnisexual , because we lost Jacobson's organ which is used to define sex for all other species on earth, other animals make it quite simple they are controlled by pheromones.
Humans do not have any way to tell who is their partner, so we rely on experiences and education.
The fact that you do not find men disgusting, means that you have big potential to turn that into attraction.
All you need is some positive reinforcement. Human mind is quite flexible.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd 3) no matter what. I'd love to cause in my opinion bisexuality is far better than straightness and gayness but I just can't. Maybe it is easier for women, maybe women have higher chances of being bisexual, I don't know but for me it won't work.
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
Of course it is impossible that you start liking men just next morning, however, you can start by watching transvestite porn or read manga about dick girls, where that theme is just secondary and your ind will associate it with pleasure.
it all depends on experience,
some time before I was quite homophobic, but how I am quite aroused be some kinds of gay activities. I still strongly prefer women, but men are also acceptable somehow. Now I am aroused by all possible fetishes.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd Hahahaha hentai is always the way. Also, homosexuality isn't a fetish. Also, all possible fetishes? That includes sadomasochisme, being urinated on(!), eating shit(!?!?!), fucking animals etcetera etcetera etcetera. I don't think there is any human that likes all of them just like there isn't any human that likes all music genres for example. And what is Jacobson's organ? I'm too lazy to google it -_-
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
I like to watch them all. There is almost nothing in porn that may turn me down. I do not like something that is painful for me or smells bad but otherwise it is ok.
Jacobson's organ is basically sense of smell that responds to pheromones.
it is like glutamate sense for humans. if there is glutamate in you food you find is tasty even if it is made of dog poop. Jacobson's organ controls sexual response in same way. If right pheromone is present animal is aroused sexually.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
@deltaxcd Cool! I think that could happen to humans too, it's just that we don't have such sensitive smell as animals do.
fablan6 6 months ago
@fablan6
Smell has no effect here. Pheromones directly control brain to trigger genetically preprogrammed response. humans generally do not have that organ and do not respond to pheromones, but some people still have some remains and probably can be affected.
deltaxcd 6 months ago
I guess lesbianism is the only acceptable sexuality since lesbians have by far the lowest rate of stds/stis.
JamesThWilliams 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 will you marry me!
palace486 6 months ago
Especially Brazilians..... LOL
You know what it's all about don't ya?
(I myself am quite fond of latinas)
PapaSmurf1118 6 months ago
Seems like Mr. Check'm is just trying to overcompensate for that lisp of his, which such lisps tend to be portrayed as a homosexual trait in a lot of mainstream media. It's okay if you are gay, Charlie, and it's okay if you are anything else (hetero, bi, pan, a, or whatever other sexuality that "floats your boat," so long as it's not coercive or harmful to others). Regardless, the plethora of logical fallacies (such as no true scotsman, poisoning the well, etymological, etc) have got to go...
lagurash 6 months ago
@GrapplingIgnorance
So, Charlie said this to me in a PM. I thought you might find it amusing. I did.
"My friend looked at grapplingignorance video and immedietely thought he's gay by his body motions. I thought the same thing...
There is a study to confirm that gay men do display certain body motions and people usually guess right about them."
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides Hahaha. That is pretty awesome. I guess in order to be straight, according to him I have to be disgusted by gay men AND be perfectly still.
GrapplingIgnorance 6 months ago 6
Um, I'm straight, but I find the idea of obese straight people having sex is far more disgusting to me than 2 decent looking gay men. So should we stop obese people from getting married? Also, I think 2 women kissing is hot. So I'm actually not disgusted by homosexuality at all. Frankly a lot of the arguments Charlie makes looks equivalent to me as "Ew! They have cooties!"
LotusPhoenix93 6 months ago 15
everyone should just stop wasting their time with evolvedatheist1. he is still living in the dark ages, he is not evolved at all and gives atheism a bad name. i think he is a poe.
theUKatheist 6 months ago
Actually Biologists have figured out when people become gay... During development the sexualization of the brain happens after the physical stuff... The default state of the brain of a human fetus is female and males generally have their brains masculanized shortly after birth if i remember correctly... biologists can make gay rats at will by manipulating the chemical background during the usual masculanisation phase which in rats is before birth .... from " The Teaching Company... The Brain
ShalloeThought 6 months ago
Ugh, wrong account. Please respond @ antifides.
Mestherion 6 months ago
Hey, Charlie, I've been wondering. How does this disgust that I feel towards gays work? If I'm walking down the street and I see someone that has no outward appearance of being gay but is gay, will I feel disgust? What if I see two guys walking together? What if I see two guys walking together holding hands? What if it's two straight guys holding hands for some unknown reason?
Since you don't feel disgust for straight guys, is it okay for a straight guy to give you a hand job?
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides
If a person is gay but doesn't look gay, there's no disgust factor because the disgust comes from the thought of male same sex sexual activity or sexual attracstion... If a straight man wants to give a hand job, than that straight man wouldn't be considered "straight.....Two guys walking down the street holding hands sends off the message that they could be sexually active in which elicits disgust.
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 When you see two men holding hands, you think about them having sex? Holy crap you're gay. Why do you want to keep other people like you from getting married?
Also, I believe "sexually attracted to one's own gender" is the qualification for being gay. Perhaps the guy wants to give you a hand job for another reason. That's not really relevant to the question.
Mestherion 6 months ago
@Mestherion
"When you see two men holding hands, you think about them having sex?"
BULLSHIT
That's a STRAW MAN FALLACY
I said they send off the message that they could be sexual active..If you see a woman treating a dog as if the dog is her sexual partner, what would you think???? It would send off the message that she's fucking the dog.
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 You: "because the disgust comes from the THOUGHT of male same sex sexual activity"
Me: "When you see two men holding hands, you THINK about them having sex?"
Could you point out, please, exactly where I misrepresented your argument?
Oh, I've got it. I assumed you felt disgust, but I don't remember you actually saying you do. I'm misrepresenting your argument with that assumption, right?
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides
"When you see two men holding hands, you THINK about them having sex"
BULLSHIT
I said that sends a message that they could be sexually active.
Being aware that two people are sexually active is FAR different from thinking about sex. If you assume a man and woman is sexually active with eachother, does that mean you're thinking about the act of sex????
IN other words, those two men aren't just friends. They're doing things that lovers do
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 not bullshit, not a strawman. idiot.
lewismurray1 6 months ago
@Mestherion
"Holy crap you're gay"
BULLSHIT
According to your queer, twisted logic, if a woman's body motions convinces you that she's sexually active with a dog, that means you like fucking dogs
Now do you see how stupid and irrational you are????
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 Or don't respond @ Antifides. Just goes to show how much of a douchebag you are.
I just don't understand. You see, when I see two men holding hands, I DON'T think about them having sex. As a result, I am not disgusted.
Until I saw you say it, the idea that I might think about that didn't cross my mind.
I do find it very telling that you took such exception to the suggestion that it made you gay, though. Very telling, indeed.
Antifides 6 months ago
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Antifides 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 Oops, I said that was a strawman. It wasn't. Let's try again.
For the record: "According to your queer, twisted logic, if a woman's body motions convinces you that she's sexually active with a dog, that means you like fucking dogs"
THAT is a false analogy.
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides
"THAT is a false analogy"
No it's not because a woman fucking a dog is just as disgusting as two faggots fucking eachother...
So if a woman makes you think she's fucking a dog, it's the same as a gay man who makes me thinking he's fucking another man
CharlieBoyCheckm 6 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm It is a false analogy.
Homosexuality is fairly common, therefore two men holding hands doesn't engender any further thought.
A woman acting like she's sexually active with a dog is extremely uncommon and would provoke further thought.
The reason you made the analogy was to compare how one's mind would react to the two scenarios. The answer is: differently. It follows that your analogy is false.
Mestherion 6 months ago
@Mestherion
"Homosexuality is fairly common, therefore two men holding hands doesn't engender any further thought"
You just proved that you really don't realize how disgusting that faggot shit is. Two men holding hands is some awkard gay shit. The only time I see faggots holding hands is when I pass through longbeach during the gay festival.
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 "You just proved that you really don't realize how disgusting that faggot shit is."
Where the hell have you been? I have two comments ^ up there ^ responding to your claims that disgust for homosexuals is a part of heterosexuality.
In case you need it spelled out: I FUCKING DISAGREE.
It's not that I don't realize. It's something I don't feel and don't think about. Yet, I'm straight.
Get it through your head. If you are having these thoughts, that's YOUR problem.
Antifides 6 months ago
@Mestherion
"Hey, dipshit, I quoted you saying "thought". You don't think when you have thoughts?"
Hey dumb ass
There's a difference between thinking about a couple being "sexually active" and thinking about a "sex act". I specifically mentioned thinking about them being "sexually active". In other words, I'm simply conscious that they're on the level of having sex. It's like knowing your parents are sexually active but without specifically thinking about the sex act
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@Antifides
"Could you point out, please, exactly where I misrepresented your argument?"
Being aware of two people being sexually active with each other is not the same as thinking about the act of sex.
I'm aware that married couples have sex but does that mean I'm constantly thinking about the act of having sex??? Or course not
So you spewed a straw man fallacy because being aware of two faggots having sex is not the same as thinking about the act of sex.
CharlieBoyCheckm 6 months ago
@CharlieBoyCheckm Hey, dipshit, I quoted you saying "thought". You don't think when you have thoughts? So, again, no strawman, because I said "think" and you said "thought" and therefore I correctly represented your position. How fucking stupid are you?
Mestherion 6 months ago
I wonder who marries all of the animals out there in the wild.
Also, is Charlie now trying to redefine "backbone"?
It's really hard to believe he's a troll when he argues so vehemently in verbal conversations.
It's really hard to believe he's not a troll when he acts like he doesn't understand what simple words and phrases mean and argues about that instead of the point the person was making.
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides
Hey dumb ass...SNAP OUT OF YOUR QUEER DENIAL
Marriage is the backbone of procreation
In other words, a loving marriage is VERY beneficial to procreation, reproduction and raising children....Now, man and woman happen to have the right combination of brains and organs to come together and reproduce...Sex often involves emotional bonding in which is perfect for man and woman to make a baby and get married or get married and make a baby...
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
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Mestherion 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 That's not what "backbone" means. After you have retracted your position regarding gays as utterly unsupportable, you should work on your vocabulary. Make sure you retract those claims of strawman on that person who used "backbone" correctly. It's not his fault YOU misrepresented your own argument.
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides "That's not what "backbone"
BULLSHIT backbone - A main support or major sustaining factor
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 Procreation - happening since several billion years ago, despite the absence of the "main support" or "major sustaining factor" of marriage.
Oh hey, that means you used "backbone" wrong.
Now that we've gotten your minor misconception cleared up, let's revisit the big one:
Homosexuals getting married is a simple matter of rights. There's no desire to seduce straight people. There's no hidden agenda. Got it? Good. Now shut up and take it in the ass.
Antifides 6 months ago
@Antifides
"Now that we've gotten your minor misconception cleared up"
Not so fast you sneaky dirty ass faggot
The existence of humans has been around mucn longer than cars but that doeesn't mean cars aren't the backbone of people's transportation at this time
Many women don't have kids yet becasue they're waiting for the right man to MARRY them so they can REPRODUCE with the man they MARRY
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
@EvolvedAtheist1 Planes, trains, bicycles, motorcycles, walking, scooters, skateboards, buses, subways... sorry, what was your point again?
Let's pretend you're right: Procreation is barely feasible without marriage. Now what?
If gays get married, will all those women who are apparently passively waiting for a man to come by and marry them not be able to get married anymore? Or will they not be able to procreate anymore? Will married gays make them sterile?
Mestherion 6 months ago
Respond to this video...
"Faggots and gay bitches THRIVE on redefining words. As a matter of fact, redefining words is the great gay hope"
Queers redefined the word "gay" (originally meant happy) even though they disproportionately suffer from depression
Queers are in fact CONTORTIONISTS
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago
Disadvantages of being a faggot
1. Faggots could never enjoy bareback sex without the serious risk of contracting deadly std's.
On the other hand, heteros enjoy bareback sex all the time. That's how we make babies but faggots are still more prone to contracting std's even compared to heteros who don't use protection
2. Faggots and gay bitches can't enjoy making love while making a baby. There's nothing better than having passionate sex and have a baby come out of it.
EvolvedAtheist1 6 months ago