Furthermore you say since life already began, why would it need to begin again? Well, it wouldn't need to begin again. You are correct. However, the event didn't happen with the purpose of starting life, since there is no intelligence behind a random event. So it is logical to believe the event that began life would occur again, and the same life form would be created as was the first time. Evolutionists are willing to believe in innumerable coincidences rather than accept the truth.
@thisis3d You know what they say about assumptions. Is it that hard for you to believe intelligent individuals believe in God and creation? And to set you straight and to avoid any future confusion, I am NOT ppsimmons.
the reason i am accusing you of being a ppsimmons sock is because NotDrJekyll asked me some questions and you are picking up were he left off. NotDrJekyll is a sock account. it was made the day he asked his questions and there has been no other activity. you also have his mannerisms
@thisis3d If we do share any mannerisms, it is merely coincidence. And I would disagree that the Big Bang Theory does not deal with evolution. It does not deal with the branch of evolution you are referencing, which is rooted in the field of Biology. It is easy to say matter originated from the Big Bang, but what caused this 'Big Bang' to occur and how did matter magically appear? The 'Big Bang Theory' cannot be intelligently explained. If it can, please enlighten me.
watch that video. it explains how, the universe came from nothing because in quantum mechanics nothing will give you something. nothing has a value and quantum fluctuations can create matter and energy from nothing. because nothing is not nothing
My main point and the main point in the video you are refuting is where did matter come from if it was not created? It's a simple question. You have to answer that before you can even begin to discuss the evolution of life on earth.
djarm57 has videos about abiogenesis. watch them /watch?v=jTCoKlB0s4Y . the point i was trying to make was life can't start again after it already exists. the only form of life that can form would be too simple to compete with modern bacteria
@thisis3d I agreed with your point that life cannot start again once it exists. My point though, was that the phenomena can and should occur again, recreating the same life form that was originally created. This theory of abiogenesis has never been observed.
I watched the video and did a little research on Quantum Mechanics. It is based on the fact that atoms existed. So it isn't creating something out of nothing. Atoms are the building blocks of matter. Where did the atoms come from? Something cannot come from "absolutely" nothing. That video helps support my point that you cannot intelligently explain how matter is in the universe without creation.
you didn't pay attention. i'll re-watch it and summarize it if i have to. he was saying the empty space in atoms have energy and the empty space in the universe has an affect, even though it is just empty space. the math of the universe shows the total energy value of the universe is ZERO and a universe with an energy value of ZERO can come from NOTHING.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:20)
If you want to believe something came from nothing and that you are made up of star dust, that is your choice. But the universe attests to God's glory and power. I pray that you will accept the truth before it is too late. God bless you.
and the qur'an probably says the universe attests to the power of allah, its the same bullshit that doesn't explain anything. but math explains our universe perfectly. and for bible beating i have tot tell you to piss off. and whether or not you are ppsimmons, which i am strongly convinced you are, ppsimmons can piss off twice as hard.
Evolution encompasses more than just what you refer to in your video, i.e. explaining differences in modern forms of life . Look up the definition. What you refer to as evolution cannot be addressed until you first explain where matter came from. And furthermore, explain how the said matter arranged itself in such a way that a planet miraculously had all of the right conditions to support life. You cannot intelligently explain this. You want me to believe that matter just appeared randomly?
the biology theory of evolution regarding common deals only with how life diversifies. however being the renascences man i am i will explain this too. matter did not randomly become a planet. there are things called gravity, electromagnetic forces, and nuclear forces that govern how mater interacts. and accretion discs have been observed orbiting stars. those forces working in an accretion disc can, do, and did create planets. earth is a planet.
@thisis3d I understand that matter didn't randomly become planets. That was not my question. I also understand that there are forces, i.e. gravity, that govern matter. My question to you was where did the matter come from? It wasn't created, so where did come from? Once you explain this small important detail, you can move on, but you must start at the beginning.
well since the big bang theory doesn't deal with evolution i really don't. because fields of science don't have to cross over, as long as they don't conflict. so my answer to you is the big bang. again watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
and earth wasn't set up, and didn't form just so it can support life, its the other way around, life developed in a way that it could be sustained on this planet. it wouldn't make much sense for life to form on a planet that can't sustain it.
as for saying everything came from nothing:
watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
its an hour long. Krauss is the author of many bestselling books on Physics and Cosmology. skip to about 3 minutes in
BTW, Miller Urey is shrouded with doubt as being a credible experience. Too many variables that didn't replicate what early earth would have been like.
For example, they had a constant spark whereas early earth would have had random sparks like lighting.
i wasn't talking about the original experiment this was a different one he did involving volcanic gas being struck by lightning generating various agents needed for life to form. please check the link in the side bar next time.
Your bone density reference does not necessarily refute his point. It is only beneficial in artificially producing that mutation in those suffering osteoporosis. There is nothing in the study that showed dense bones were advantageous or harmful--at least on its own. It only becomes beneficial when artificially creating it in those with low bone density, and that is not natural selection but intelligent intervention.
its advantageous when the mutation spreads to a large population making people less likely to be injured in collisions, and considering how many automobile and plane crashes we face in this modern age stronger bones would be a great thing
Oh nooooooooo - That book title was edited because it is racist. Can you believe that? Is there a credibility problem here from the scientific community? Should I go on about the other comments from your master? Better not, better to believe the fantasy.
Well what do you know, the fossil record contains 90 % plus, of all the currently living species on earth. Should that not be the other way around since we evolved? Opps, they conveniently forgot to tell you that in school.
i think you mean that 90% of the organisms that were alive have been fossilized which is unlikely seeing as how fossilization is a rare process. and the fossil record can be seen going from simple to complex, with transitional forms. we also have a genetic tree of life. humans and chimps share like 98% of their DNA. our 2nd chromosome is a fused chromosome that matches exact patterns in chimp chromosomes, showing solid proof and a shared ancestor. so eat dick you fundie fucktard.
there is nothing racist about that title because it doesn't refer to to races like black, white, japanese, etc. it means races as in separate animal populations that have the ability to become diverse and split off over time. also Darwin was outspoken about his disagreement with the slave trade.
nothing lives without a metabolism, there is nothing scientific to support the idea of some magic wind that makes things live. i mean we have cloned animals, does that mean we have the power to give the breath of life? who know, but you can't answer because you have been a dickish troll.
"Everything is based on math." No. biology has nothing to do with math, however you can create something in math to express things found in the field of biology. chemistry isn't based on math, but again math can be used in chemistry.
Everything in life is based on mathematical equations. Because life itself is non living atoms. In fact the basic elements themselves are non-living yet you are alive. A most complex equation that you nor anyone else can figure out. Dawkins summed it up best for the atheists when he figured it was aliens. This from a man who is claiming their is no God. Maybe he should sit out in area 51 with the other wackos - ROTFL.
he never said it was aliens and and one making that claim is being deliberately dishonest. anyone with a handful of brain cells can take 2 minutes to look up his actually opinion on this
BTW - abiogenesis "evolved" from evolution theory you stupid ass. Also your chief (Dawkins) can't figure out where the first self replicating DNA came from, well he thinks it might have come from ALIENS LOL,LOL, LOL,ROTFL.
The burden of proof is on you my friend and since the debate is already conclusive your just wasting your time. Your time would be better spend understanding the known rather than conjuring up/adding to a false fallacy. So there again we are back to abiogensis was born from evolutionary theory and yes I am a college graduate with a background in science before you go down the A-typical response. Dawkins and ALIENS - LOL. Unbelievable he even went down that road. ROTFL.
You know half a dozen gods were born to virgins on December 25th, and they all died for our sins, and they were all resurrected, The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Mithra, a Persian god, and Horus, an Egyptian god. Before christ was invented it was the solstice people celebrated. Also a lot of fertility rituals were popular around this time. And one final word sunshine, if you keep spamming with unrelated comments I'll block your ass.
Ya ya ya..... Get your facts straight. There is only one God and one person who walked the earth that claimed he was God in the flesh. There is also only one book that backs up the story of God and the one God who walked on the earth. The rest is nonsense.
Still the burden of proof is on you. You cannot disprove God and cannot prove evolution. Must be troubling to know that Christmas is for Christ. That the year you live in is based on Christ birth. Christ is all around you - I bet you even take Christmas day off, hypocrite. Do you exchange presents? - hypocrite. That too is based on the the birth of Jesus. Yes, you live with Jesus all around you.
well evolution, like gravity, is a theory and theories can't be proven, the only provable theories are mathematical. the "Christmas" season has been celebrated long before it there was a Christ and it was always named after the popular god of that time frame. the calender we have now is a compost of a few different calenders. funny thing is many days in our calender are named after other gods. "Thursday" is "Thor's day" Friday is named after Fria, a Norse god. and Sunday is named after the sun
you are the hypocrite, celebrating pagan rituals, tree worshiper. and Christmas for me has been about family and gifts even before i became an atheist there was never much to do with jebus. i hope you realise the jesus charter was truly born in the june/arpil time of the year. why would shepherds be herding their flock in winter? also the star mentioned was visible one time in history and it would appear of the right areas, but it was in the spring, not the winter.
you see when the Christians wanted to replace the pagans they just stole all their tradition and, symbols, and took away their gods. the christian religion is nothing but plagiarism and theft. atheism is on the rise, science is disproving myth every day. so i guess it sucks to be you.
You still cannot prove what has already taken place - Jesus. BTW even the greatest of scientist know that Jesus was a person and walked this earth. You should research that one. It is also important to note that the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm that the Bible is completely accurate in context. Your thinking is too shallow to understand the complexity of the world around you.
i never denied there was a person named jesus who was alive ~2000 years ago. its just all his super powers and magic tricks are the creation of men. and for a book that is "completely accurate in context" a hell of a lot and it has been edited at least a dozen times. i think it is you who is the shallow thinker, i have come to appreciate the fact we are insignificant in the totality of existence, and it is this meaninglessness that makes life priceless.
How do you know his super powers are a bag of tricks what scientific evidence do you have? Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls corroborate the Biblical accounts - that is a fact. I have seen the DSS. Again, this is scientific proof regardless of personal views or beliefs.
does that include the parts that were taken from or added to the bible? im not saying jesus didn't have super powers, im saying your claim he did is preposterous until proven otherwise. and moldy old books are proof people wrote stuff, we need an outside source that can collaborate them. and since some of the shit mentioned in them is literally impossible i doubt that will happen. and please note, you are walking a thin line between being a dick and being a troll
LOL, your attempt at humor is typical and follows the atheistic line that is as predictable as time itself.....when as else fails try a personal attack. So you have no proof and I do as I stated when we first began this circular argument. I have a book, Jesus, and eyewitness accounts. I have more evidence than it takes to convict a criminal and have him executed. You on the other other hand have your belief of man made stories and fantasies. BTW life to you is survival of the fittest.
yeah, you can't tell others what they believe because you have no fucking clue what is in someone else' head. you have a book full of rumors, contradictions and fairy tales. if the eye witness accounts are in the bible then you need to prove those people even existed. if it is just individual people then you have fuck all. science, and the theory of evolution, have DNA that actually was presented in court, and won.
Family and gifts - the wise men and the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Of course Jesus was not born in December the Bible is clear about that. BTW Christmas (the birth) was only incorporated in December to get the pagans to celebrate Jesus - I guess it worked. There is no celebration of the day, only of His coming. A big difference.
There is no evidence that it was three wise men, the bible does not say how many. That is only a guess you made based on what you have heard. You have no scientific evidence to back that statement up.
This moron edited an argument I had with him in the comment section of one of his videos to make it look like he won. He's as pathetic and dishonest as any other creationist.
he has is comments on approval only so he can avoid being proved wrong. and when he thinks he can quote mine them and try to prove them wrong he'll allow it so he can "pwn" you. even though your response will destroy him, so thats why he won't allow it.
Furthermore you say since life already began, why would it need to begin again? Well, it wouldn't need to begin again. You are correct. However, the event didn't happen with the purpose of starting life, since there is no intelligence behind a random event. So it is logical to believe the event that began life would occur again, and the same life form would be created as was the first time. Evolutionists are willing to believe in innumerable coincidences rather than accept the truth.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
i am assuming you are sock account belonging to ppsimmons however, i'll play ball
thisis3d 2 years ago
@thisis3d You know what they say about assumptions. Is it that hard for you to believe intelligent individuals believe in God and creation? And to set you straight and to avoid any future confusion, I am NOT ppsimmons.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
the reason i am accusing you of being a ppsimmons sock is because NotDrJekyll asked me some questions and you are picking up were he left off. NotDrJekyll is a sock account. it was made the day he asked his questions and there has been no other activity. you also have his mannerisms
thisis3d 2 years ago
@thisis3d If we do share any mannerisms, it is merely coincidence. And I would disagree that the Big Bang Theory does not deal with evolution. It does not deal with the branch of evolution you are referencing, which is rooted in the field of Biology. It is easy to say matter originated from the Big Bang, but what caused this 'Big Bang' to occur and how did matter magically appear? The 'Big Bang Theory' cannot be intelligently explained. If it can, please enlighten me.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
watch that video. it explains how, the universe came from nothing because in quantum mechanics nothing will give you something. nothing has a value and quantum fluctuations can create matter and energy from nothing. because nothing is not nothing
thisis3d 2 years ago
My main point and the main point in the video you are refuting is where did matter come from if it was not created? It's a simple question. You have to answer that before you can even begin to discuss the evolution of life on earth.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
djarm57 has videos about abiogenesis. watch them /watch?v=jTCoKlB0s4Y . the point i was trying to make was life can't start again after it already exists. the only form of life that can form would be too simple to compete with modern bacteria
thisis3d 2 years ago
@thisis3d I agreed with your point that life cannot start again once it exists. My point though, was that the phenomena can and should occur again, recreating the same life form that was originally created. This theory of abiogenesis has never been observed.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
no, but watch those videos. it explains how each of the processes we know happened creates everything needed to create life.
thisis3d 2 years ago
I watched the video and did a little research on Quantum Mechanics. It is based on the fact that atoms existed. So it isn't creating something out of nothing. Atoms are the building blocks of matter. Where did the atoms come from? Something cannot come from "absolutely" nothing. That video helps support my point that you cannot intelligently explain how matter is in the universe without creation.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
you didn't pay attention. i'll re-watch it and summarize it if i have to. he was saying the empty space in atoms have energy and the empty space in the universe has an affect, even though it is just empty space. the math of the universe shows the total energy value of the universe is ZERO and a universe with an energy value of ZERO can come from NOTHING.
thisis3d 2 years ago
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:20)
If you want to believe something came from nothing and that you are made up of star dust, that is your choice. But the universe attests to God's glory and power. I pray that you will accept the truth before it is too late. God bless you.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago 3
and the qur'an probably says the universe attests to the power of allah, its the same bullshit that doesn't explain anything. but math explains our universe perfectly. and for bible beating i have tot tell you to piss off. and whether or not you are ppsimmons, which i am strongly convinced you are, ppsimmons can piss off twice as hard.
thisis3d 2 years ago
@misterGwriter2003 pwned
heythisrocks 1 year ago
Evolution encompasses more than just what you refer to in your video, i.e. explaining differences in modern forms of life . Look up the definition. What you refer to as evolution cannot be addressed until you first explain where matter came from. And furthermore, explain how the said matter arranged itself in such a way that a planet miraculously had all of the right conditions to support life. You cannot intelligently explain this. You want me to believe that matter just appeared randomly?
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
the biology theory of evolution regarding common deals only with how life diversifies. however being the renascences man i am i will explain this too. matter did not randomly become a planet. there are things called gravity, electromagnetic forces, and nuclear forces that govern how mater interacts. and accretion discs have been observed orbiting stars. those forces working in an accretion disc can, do, and did create planets. earth is a planet.
thisis3d 2 years ago
@thisis3d I understand that matter didn't randomly become planets. That was not my question. I also understand that there are forces, i.e. gravity, that govern matter. My question to you was where did the matter come from? It wasn't created, so where did come from? Once you explain this small important detail, you can move on, but you must start at the beginning.
misterGwriter2003 2 years ago
well since the big bang theory doesn't deal with evolution i really don't. because fields of science don't have to cross over, as long as they don't conflict. so my answer to you is the big bang. again watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
thisis3d 2 years ago
and earth wasn't set up, and didn't form just so it can support life, its the other way around, life developed in a way that it could be sustained on this planet. it wouldn't make much sense for life to form on a planet that can't sustain it.
as for saying everything came from nothing:
watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
its an hour long. Krauss is the author of many bestselling books on Physics and Cosmology. skip to about 3 minutes in
thisis3d 2 years ago
Bravo man, well done on this.
deathwalker00 2 years ago
BTW, Miller Urey is shrouded with doubt as being a credible experience. Too many variables that didn't replicate what early earth would have been like.
For example, they had a constant spark whereas early earth would have had random sparks like lighting.
NotDrJekyll 2 years ago
i wasn't talking about the original experiment this was a different one he did involving volcanic gas being struck by lightning generating various agents needed for life to form. please check the link in the side bar next time.
thisis3d 2 years ago
Your bone density reference does not necessarily refute his point. It is only beneficial in artificially producing that mutation in those suffering osteoporosis. There is nothing in the study that showed dense bones were advantageous or harmful--at least on its own. It only becomes beneficial when artificially creating it in those with low bone density, and that is not natural selection but intelligent intervention.
NotDrJekyll 2 years ago
its advantageous when the mutation spreads to a large population making people less likely to be injured in collisions, and considering how many automobile and plane crashes we face in this modern age stronger bones would be a great thing
thisis3d 2 years ago
Oh nooooooooo - That book title was edited because it is racist. Can you believe that? Is there a credibility problem here from the scientific community? Should I go on about the other comments from your master? Better not, better to believe the fantasy.
Well what do you know, the fossil record contains 90 % plus, of all the currently living species on earth. Should that not be the other way around since we evolved? Opps, they conveniently forgot to tell you that in school.
ub30f 2 years ago
i think you mean that 90% of the organisms that were alive have been fossilized which is unlikely seeing as how fossilization is a rare process. and the fossil record can be seen going from simple to complex, with transitional forms. we also have a genetic tree of life. humans and chimps share like 98% of their DNA. our 2nd chromosome is a fused chromosome that matches exact patterns in chimp chromosomes, showing solid proof and a shared ancestor. so eat dick you fundie fucktard.
thisis3d 2 years ago
i bet you have no credible sources to back up most of the shit you say but it doesn't mater because i am done with trolls.
thisis3d 2 years ago
The title of Darwins book -
The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.
What part of that title do you not understand?
ub30f 2 years ago
there is nothing racist about that title because it doesn't refer to to races like black, white, japanese, etc. it means races as in separate animal populations that have the ability to become diverse and split off over time. also Darwin was outspoken about his disagreement with the slave trade.
thisis3d 2 years ago
LOOOOOL, did you even read the book?!?!?!
Killdozer6006 2 years ago
Nothing lives without the "breath of life."
ub30f 2 years ago
nothing lives without a metabolism, there is nothing scientific to support the idea of some magic wind that makes things live. i mean we have cloned animals, does that mean we have the power to give the breath of life? who know, but you can't answer because you have been a dickish troll.
thisis3d 2 years ago
"... the only provable theories are mathematical."
Mathematics - a universal language. Everything is based on math. Funny, Jesus was a carpenter. Math and art combined - interesting.
ub30f 2 years ago
"Everything is based on math." No. biology has nothing to do with math, however you can create something in math to express things found in the field of biology. chemistry isn't based on math, but again math can be used in chemistry.
thisis3d 2 years ago
Everything in life is based on mathematical equations. Because life itself is non living atoms. In fact the basic elements themselves are non-living yet you are alive. A most complex equation that you nor anyone else can figure out. Dawkins summed it up best for the atheists when he figured it was aliens. This from a man who is claiming their is no God. Maybe he should sit out in area 51 with the other wackos - ROTFL.
ub30f 2 years ago
he never said it was aliens and and one making that claim is being deliberately dishonest. anyone with a handful of brain cells can take 2 minutes to look up his actually opinion on this
thisis3d 2 years ago
Boooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggg
BTW - abiogenesis "evolved" from evolution theory you stupid ass. Also your chief (Dawkins) can't figure out where the first self replicating DNA came from, well he thinks it might have come from ALIENS LOL,LOL, LOL,ROTFL.
ub30f 2 years ago
well i would love to see your super exciting response to this where you prove me wrong, but i won't hold my breath
thisis3d 2 years ago
The burden of proof is on you my friend and since the debate is already conclusive your just wasting your time. Your time would be better spend understanding the known rather than conjuring up/adding to a false fallacy. So there again we are back to abiogensis was born from evolutionary theory and yes I am a college graduate with a background in science before you go down the A-typical response. Dawkins and ALIENS - LOL. Unbelievable he even went down that road. ROTFL.
ub30f 2 years ago
so your saying evolution is false?
thisis3d 2 years ago
Christmas is here - good will to men everywhere! Praise God. CHRISTmas - the reason for the season.
ub30f 2 years ago
You know half a dozen gods were born to virgins on December 25th, and they all died for our sins, and they were all resurrected, The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Mithra, a Persian god, and Horus, an Egyptian god. Before christ was invented it was the solstice people celebrated. Also a lot of fertility rituals were popular around this time. And one final word sunshine, if you keep spamming with unrelated comments I'll block your ass.
thisis3d 2 years ago
Ya ya ya..... Get your facts straight. There is only one God and one person who walked the earth that claimed he was God in the flesh. There is also only one book that backs up the story of God and the one God who walked on the earth. The rest is nonsense.
ub30f 2 years ago
there are thousands of gods that man have worshiped. and what makes your book of fairy tails any more accurate then all the others?
thisis3d 2 years ago
Still the burden of proof is on you. You cannot disprove God and cannot prove evolution. Must be troubling to know that Christmas is for Christ. That the year you live in is based on Christ birth. Christ is all around you - I bet you even take Christmas day off, hypocrite. Do you exchange presents? - hypocrite. That too is based on the the birth of Jesus. Yes, you live with Jesus all around you.
ub30f 2 years ago
well evolution, like gravity, is a theory and theories can't be proven, the only provable theories are mathematical. the "Christmas" season has been celebrated long before it there was a Christ and it was always named after the popular god of that time frame. the calender we have now is a compost of a few different calenders. funny thing is many days in our calender are named after other gods. "Thursday" is "Thor's day" Friday is named after Fria, a Norse god. and Sunday is named after the sun
thisis3d 2 years ago
you are the hypocrite, celebrating pagan rituals, tree worshiper. and Christmas for me has been about family and gifts even before i became an atheist there was never much to do with jebus. i hope you realise the jesus charter was truly born in the june/arpil time of the year. why would shepherds be herding their flock in winter? also the star mentioned was visible one time in history and it would appear of the right areas, but it was in the spring, not the winter.
thisis3d 2 years ago
you see when the Christians wanted to replace the pagans they just stole all their tradition and, symbols, and took away their gods. the christian religion is nothing but plagiarism and theft. atheism is on the rise, science is disproving myth every day. so i guess it sucks to be you.
thisis3d 2 years ago
You still cannot prove what has already taken place - Jesus. BTW even the greatest of scientist know that Jesus was a person and walked this earth. You should research that one. It is also important to note that the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm that the Bible is completely accurate in context. Your thinking is too shallow to understand the complexity of the world around you.
ub30f 2 years ago
i never denied there was a person named jesus who was alive ~2000 years ago. its just all his super powers and magic tricks are the creation of men. and for a book that is "completely accurate in context" a hell of a lot and it has been edited at least a dozen times. i think it is you who is the shallow thinker, i have come to appreciate the fact we are insignificant in the totality of existence, and it is this meaninglessness that makes life priceless.
thisis3d 2 years ago
How do you know his super powers are a bag of tricks what scientific evidence do you have? Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls corroborate the Biblical accounts - that is a fact. I have seen the DSS. Again, this is scientific proof regardless of personal views or beliefs.
ub30f 2 years ago
does that include the parts that were taken from or added to the bible? im not saying jesus didn't have super powers, im saying your claim he did is preposterous until proven otherwise. and moldy old books are proof people wrote stuff, we need an outside source that can collaborate them. and since some of the shit mentioned in them is literally impossible i doubt that will happen. and please note, you are walking a thin line between being a dick and being a troll
thisis3d 2 years ago
LOL, your attempt at humor is typical and follows the atheistic line that is as predictable as time itself.....when as else fails try a personal attack. So you have no proof and I do as I stated when we first began this circular argument. I have a book, Jesus, and eyewitness accounts. I have more evidence than it takes to convict a criminal and have him executed. You on the other other hand have your belief of man made stories and fantasies. BTW life to you is survival of the fittest.
ub30f 2 years ago
yeah, you can't tell others what they believe because you have no fucking clue what is in someone else' head. you have a book full of rumors, contradictions and fairy tales. if the eye witness accounts are in the bible then you need to prove those people even existed. if it is just individual people then you have fuck all. science, and the theory of evolution, have DNA that actually was presented in court, and won.
thisis3d 2 years ago
Family and gifts - the wise men and the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. Of course Jesus was not born in December the Bible is clear about that. BTW Christmas (the birth) was only incorporated in December to get the pagans to celebrate Jesus - I guess it worked. There is no celebration of the day, only of His coming. A big difference.
ub30f 2 years ago
three old guys bring perfume to then star baby, its something right out of a mad man's diary.
thisis3d 2 years ago
There is no evidence that it was three wise men, the bible does not say how many. That is only a guess you made based on what you have heard. You have no scientific evidence to back that statement up.
ub30f 2 years ago
Don't forget Saturn. Already know all these things.
ub30f 2 years ago
This moron edited an argument I had with him in the comment section of one of his videos to make it look like he won. He's as pathetic and dishonest as any other creationist.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
doesn't surprise me, nephillimfree did the same thing to me.
thisis3d 2 years ago
NephilimFlanders simply blocked me.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
he has is comments on approval only so he can avoid being proved wrong. and when he thinks he can quote mine them and try to prove them wrong he'll allow it so he can "pwn" you. even though your response will destroy him, so thats why he won't allow it.
thisis3d 2 years ago
Very well done.
How you can be this civil to such a lying piece of shit is beyond me...
Vogter2100 2 years ago
i figured since ppsimmons acts like a child i would treat him or her as such, so instead of getting angry at them, i scolded.
thisis3d 2 years ago
LOL yeah :)
Vogter2100 2 years ago