MEZCLA DE ASCO, DOLOR, ADMIRACION Y REPULSION SIENTO AL VER ESTOS VIDEOS. POR UN LADO LOS TRABAJADORES QUE HACEN MARAVILLAS CON TAL DE PODER LLEVAR EL DINERO A CASA Y POR OTRO LADO LA GENTE QUE SIGUE CANTANDO "PERON, PERON". POR DIOS, ABRAN LOS OJOS!!!! PERON GENERO ESTA CLASE PANCISTA CHORIPANERA QUE LLEVO A LA DESTRUCCION DEL MARAVILLOSO FUTURO QUE TENIAMOS. CUANDO VAN A ENTENDER ESTO?????????????
I don't see why they felt the need to qualify the workers' struggles by claiming they are 'non-ideological' as if this somehow validates their cause. The cause is a worthy one any way, and we see clearly here that these workers are not naive but understand fully the web of interests in society and to which their own are either aligned or opposed. I wish people would get over the post-Cold War hangover that is the obsession with 'ideology'.
@Schniddo Being non-ideological can be in away ideological or in other words, partisan because it can be used to stop others from expressing a political opinion if it is seen as coming from a political ideology.
@BritishAussie Yeah that's what I'm saying but my point is that it is incorrect. You are right that if somebody labels themselves as 'non-ideological' it could be used as a way to exclude certain people for their views. I don't think that is at play here, I think it is more the knee-jerk desire to distance oneself from 'ideology' because of how unfashionable the notion has become but the truth is that everyone is ideological. It is simply how we organise meaning and interpret the world.
@Schniddo being non-ideological can be in a way be ideological, or in other words partisan because it can be used to restrict someone expressing a political opinion if it is seen as coming from a political ideology.
I think what the people are doing is great but these idiots who made the movie doesn't know the half of it. Peron didn't give a darn about education he was an ass just like Menem and they all get their ideas from Peron because it is the Peronist party. Kirchner and Menem were both Peronistas. Kirtchner is just as bad as Menem he and his wife who have been in power for the past 6 or so years have increased their personal weath 6 fold. Talk about terrible practices.
@jamspooge86 Yeah, only politics over "there" are corrupt. Totally stupid American assumption. Ever wonder who overthrows and sets up all the governments over "there"? Who's responsible for the political instability over "there"? USA!!!!!
I agree with stpeterican, but the 9:00 stuff is truly not enough to influence ANYBODY in poland. We already saw it around 1950 I guess. It's too lame to work.
This is a GREAT upload! Thank you so much!
OurFadedGarden 6 months ago
MEZCLA DE ASCO, DOLOR, ADMIRACION Y REPULSION SIENTO AL VER ESTOS VIDEOS. POR UN LADO LOS TRABAJADORES QUE HACEN MARAVILLAS CON TAL DE PODER LLEVAR EL DINERO A CASA Y POR OTRO LADO LA GENTE QUE SIGUE CANTANDO "PERON, PERON". POR DIOS, ABRAN LOS OJOS!!!! PERON GENERO ESTA CLASE PANCISTA CHORIPANERA QUE LLEVO A LA DESTRUCCION DEL MARAVILLOSO FUTURO QUE TENIAMOS. CUANDO VAN A ENTENDER ESTO?????????????
andicar177 6 months ago
I don't see why they felt the need to qualify the workers' struggles by claiming they are 'non-ideological' as if this somehow validates their cause. The cause is a worthy one any way, and we see clearly here that these workers are not naive but understand fully the web of interests in society and to which their own are either aligned or opposed. I wish people would get over the post-Cold War hangover that is the obsession with 'ideology'.
Schniddo 1 year ago 2
@Schniddo Being non-ideological can be in away ideological or in other words, partisan because it can be used to stop others from expressing a political opinion if it is seen as coming from a political ideology.
BritishAussie 9 months ago
@BritishAussie Yeah that's what I'm saying but my point is that it is incorrect. You are right that if somebody labels themselves as 'non-ideological' it could be used as a way to exclude certain people for their views. I don't think that is at play here, I think it is more the knee-jerk desire to distance oneself from 'ideology' because of how unfashionable the notion has become but the truth is that everyone is ideological. It is simply how we organise meaning and interpret the world.
Schniddo 9 months ago
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@Schniddo being non-ideological can be in a way be ideological, or in other words partisan because it can be used to restrict someone expressing a political opinion if it is seen as coming from a political ideology.
BritishAussie 9 months ago
This is insane man. Buying votes with food for starving people. How fucking low can you get ... Also, Maty is cute :P
Monty0699 1 year ago
@Monty0699 It's happening in the Usa already.
Marielalaura 1 year ago
These days it's just a corporation and marketing, that's what a political campaign is.
It has nothing to do with the reality of what will or will not be done.
RicRagsLive 1 year ago
do you have a summary of this video
babywest134st 2 years ago
I think what the people are doing is great but these idiots who made the movie doesn't know the half of it. Peron didn't give a darn about education he was an ass just like Menem and they all get their ideas from Peron because it is the Peronist party. Kirchner and Menem were both Peronistas. Kirtchner is just as bad as Menem he and his wife who have been in power for the past 6 or so years have increased their personal weath 6 fold. Talk about terrible practices.
maxx214 2 years ago
actually he did care about education.. but he was corrupt such is the nature of politics there.
jamspooge86 2 years ago
@jamspooge86 Yeah, only politics over "there" are corrupt. Totally stupid American assumption. Ever wonder who overthrows and sets up all the governments over "there"? Who's responsible for the political instability over "there"? USA!!!!!
robyoink 1 year ago 14
@maxx214 That's because Naoimi Klein is a keynesian, not an anti-capitalist.
Schniddo 1 year ago
fuck peronist, the garbiche of argentina, and menem i gonna to celebrate when the mothe fucker die.
adrian025 2 years ago
9:00 what a low level propaganda. even in poland today it wouldn't work.
krbosak 3 years ago
i totaly agree...
dzepko 2 years ago
Which is why Poland is the failure that it is, because the workers have lost the balls to stand up to the corrupt systems that run capitalist Earth.
stpeterican 2 years ago 14
I agree with stpeterican, but the 9:00 stuff is truly not enough to influence ANYBODY in poland. We already saw it around 1950 I guess. It's too lame to work.
krbosak 2 years ago