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  • meat vegetables or fruit, still dead stuff. I rather eat democratically everything than follow some post hippy/new age eating philosophy

  • @TheRonBerg there is are huge differences between meat, vegatables and fruit. For instance environmental impact and health. "eat democratically" lol if you really believed in some kind of notion of democratic eating you would take into account the thousands of unheard voices taken through torturepractices of agribusiness.

  • @anabilish I wonder when people are gonna stop believing everything they are told just cause it's the trend. most of the nutrition studies about the 'healthy choice' are long lists of precentages, with which you can basically say anything you want. you're worried about the enviromental impact, don't buy from the agribusiness factories. and please stop with the unheard voices blabla, just cause you see cows walking while apples or tomatoes don't doesn' mean they're not alive and don't feel things

  • @TheRonBerg I don't really give a fuck about nurtional value but you have to be an idiot to not to see that heart disease is #1 health problem in US and it is caused by the overconsumtion of meat and dairy.You can't just dismiss research because it doesn't fit into your foolish belief system. The "pro vegaterian" group the UN put out a study saying that livestock emissions outweigh the entire transportation sectorwww.fao.org/newsroom/en/­news/2006/1000448/index.html is that false?

  • @TheRonBerg Also, it is silly to say apples and tomatoes feel things. They do not have nerves, even if they react to light and gravity pain would be exteremly unlikely. Plants don't have sensory apparatus to decode those impulses and turn them into something the plant would call pain.It's not on any conscious level; it's more along the lines of a response to stimuli rather than pain.

  • @anabilish sure as hell it's a problem, and it's caused mostly by a crappy, lazy, motionless lifestyle, and then by bad food. you really think people can't have vegetables grown artificially with crappy products? or that they are always healthy even if sprayed with pesticides? food is not bad but can be produced badly and become damn harmful. and yeah livestock emissions are high, that's why I'd like people to calm down, think about their real need and stick to it as I try to do

  • @TheRonBerg Obviously, vegatables can be sprayed with pesticides and be unhealthy but that is not an arugement for eating sentient beings. Food is bad when it is based on a system of exploitation.You have to recognize the oppression of animals has a correlation to the exploitation of people and the environment.

  • @anabilish also, my foolish belief system is science, so I think it's stupid to assume without proof plants need nerves to actually feel things like we do. they don't seem to have ears but it turns out they somehow 'hear' sounds and music and distinguish them. we still don't know the half of them, most people still don't know they have their unique dna like us, so they might have an adequate system which we can't see, just as we couldn't see atoms a century ago.

  • @TheRonBerg Where is the science in your belief that plants feel pain? Do you know of 1 reputable study done that shows these results? The only place where that is science is the lord of the rings.

  • @anabilish right, a simple, valid and true argument for eating sentient beings is that sentient beings use and eat sentient beings for survival. and no, exploitation is linked only to us being rat bastards in fact it has always existed and always will, and no, food is bad when is bad cause if you take a healthy grown carrot and spray it with crappy stuff it gets bad. plus, livestock pollutes cause it's fed with cheap crappy grains, if raised in open space, grass-fed, it would be a lot different

  • @TheRonBerg Maybe,culturally specific but in western society we don't eat animals for survival we have huge amounts of alternatives. It is untrue to say we need animal (ab)use to survive but this is getting boring and predictable your propably one of those indiviualists who see freedom as only doing what you want and not caring about the effects of your actions. Sogo back tolistening to nofx and keep thinking your delusionalthoughts that you can change things without sacrifice

  • @anabilish 1. I don't like nofx, just stumbled here by chance 2. change? sacrifice? yeah sure. things never change, smartass, except for the outside façade. enough with this bs of changing the world in a better place! 3. it's untrue to say we don't need them to survive, it's quite clear 4. since everything has always some bad outcome, always, if you stop to think about every variable it's like not living at all. I can care for the effects on people I love, but that's all, straight and simple

  • @anabilish lastly, I don't like LotR and it looks like you ignore a lot about science. one can state something only if studied deeply and extensively, and it still might be invalidated some day cause new data pop up more and more lately, from anywhere, we don't know the half of ourselves, even less of animals, no sensible person would rule out anything about other living beings's properties, except for the obvious. but then, your choice, anyone can follow any made-up religion he/she wants

  • @TheRonBerg Your arguement is a faithbased arguement without any scientific evidence it sounds to me like your arguement sounds more like a christian/scientologistf/lying spegetti monster follower.

  • @anabilish AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you don't even know what you're talking about! neither have you the decency to admit it, but then again I'm not surprised as turning things upside down is the quickest way to try and gain the edge when someone's out of their comfort zone. having been a christian I do know them, unlike you, and they are as unable to accept facts as you are. my argument is solid as any scientist could confirm. but if you like better your illogical truths, stick to 'em

  • "its survival of the fittest" Fat Mike using capitalist rhetoric to justify slaughter

  • SARCASM

  • How is he FAT Mike and now a vegan? Total contradiction.. I can bet he had plenty relapses..BEEF ITS WHATS FOR DINNER!

  • @physcoticnarcotic it's an old song. after this record fatty became veggie

  • so strange, they are very controversial, they bash veggies in this song but in "your wrong" they say people are wrong for eating meat

  • @IndieCharge after recording this record, fat mike went vegetarian

  • i wuz a vegetarian 4 most of my life nd i STILL love this song irdk why lolz

  • Where's my steak....?

  • I'm vegetarian :D and Vegans are freaking awesome, dude! They have the Vegan powers duuuhh. and don't forget... Chicken is not vegan!

    quoting movies ftw :D

  • @PunkrockIch PILGRIM! ahaha :D

  • im vegetarian but i love this song makes me wanna dance

  • I heard FatMike is actually vegan now, so those of you that like NOFX and are making fun of veggies and vegans, well, I guess you're adding him to the mix too..hahahaha. I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian that despises tofu but you have to have a sense of humor too....I guess ;)

  • great lyrics

  • I Heard They Suck Live! =-)

  • vegans are full of shit!!!!

  • @32dane in what ways are vegans full of shit?

  • @Poolerirish haha fat mike is a vegan know, and when asked about it said " hey, people change " veganism ftw!

  • @Poolerirish full of undigestable shit :))))

  • @cyberslaw not true man most vegetarians shit like 3 times a day lol.

  • @Fenderprecision51 I know they do, and that's because there is a lot of cellulose in vegetables and grain witch is indigestible unless you are a member of bovine family, and hence is pooped out, but now when i have to explain it like this it's not funny anymore.

  • I don't know if anyone knows this but...isn't that tune in the beginning called "Andantino" by classical composer Matteo Carcassi? I take classical guitar lessons and that's one of the songs in my book.....

  • fat mike is a fucking genius sarcastic!

  • fat mike is a fucking idiot.

  • *I like eating meat in front of vegetarians

  • @Tobi2x4 trust me they do not care if you are eating meat in front of them. im vegetarian and everyone eats meat in front of me. it doesn't make us feel bad or sad or anything lol cause we are not the one stuffing a dead animal into our mouths :) so eat all tha meat you want and hopefully you wont die from high blood pressure, cancer, or even your asshole getting clogged up. LOL fuckn fake ass punk poser.

  • @ranuWOW Wow, really? All I said was that I like eating meat in front of vegetarians. I didn't call myself punk for doing that, so where do you get off calling me a punk poser? Seriously, your comment made me laugh my ass off at its sheer ludicrousness. The reason I said my comment is cause my aunt is vegetarian, and when she's home from out west, I eat meat in front of her, she makes a weird face, and I laugh, and she does too. Think before you speak, just sayin'.

  • @Tobi2x4 i called you a punk ass poser cause you're listening to nofx. they are a joke. and im sure you comment wasn't meant to be a lil polite comment about your grandmother. you meant to poke fun. but the thing is that vegetarians honestly dont give two shits bout you eating meat in front of them. and im glad i was able to make you laugh during your exciting day in your moms basement.

  • @ranuWOW If I'm a punk ass poser for listening to them, what does that make you, considering you had to go to this video to see my comment? I'm not listening to them to be punk, I listen to them because I enjoy their music. Big difference right there.

    I'm glad you made me laugh, cause I spent all day yesterday in the hospital with my grandmother who is dying.

    I've got a sneaking suspicion that you are a wannabe troll that even 4Chan doesn't want to have. Damn /b/ wannabe.

  • @Tobi2x4 i went to this video because i wanted to see the lyrics. i was searching stuff about being vegetarian and this video popped up. and im glad i could lighten up the mood on your misfortune. jah bless

  • @ranuWOW Ahh, okay. That makes sense. I stumbled upon this song, haha.

    Thank you. I appreciate the well wishes.

    Also, sorry for calling you a troll... my emotions are a bit on edge right now. Normally I don't accuse people of trolling unless I'm damn certain they are, haha. ^^;

  • @Tobi2x4 oh no my feelings are so hurt now cause you said i was a troll. lol oh no how will i ever live my life now, knowing that im a troll??? oh god existence as i know it is going to come to an end lol and seriously search vegetarian and go through a few pages and this song will be there. i don't listen to nofx or whoeva they are. anyways from what ive been reading almost the whole band is vegetarian or vegan now so yea......

  • @ranuWOW xD Glad we're on good terms :P

    Haha, yeah. Just goes to show how world views change with time! A fave band of mine used to be Anarchy Punk, now they have pro-political songs. Crazy world we live in!

  • I like eating

  • isnt fat mike a vegetarian now?

  • @SIRWAF Yeah.

  • Ok Fat Mike is a Vegan. I will not stop eating delicious delicious meat.

    Never not you or your super whiny PETA friends will stop me

  • @CriminalCypress His views changed dumbass.

  • I love the Dead Milkmen reference. xD

  • does fat mike was against the vagan in this times? because the album is liberal amination(ANIMAL LIBERATION) i dont understand...

  • Fat Mike wrote this about 20 years ago, obiously his beliefs change over time as everybody's does...

  • NOFX Rules

  • this song is ironic.

  • fat mike is a vegan now:)

  • YEAAA IM GONNA GO EAT SOME FRIED CHICKEN AND DRINK SOME MEAT BEER BITCHES

  • you guys are just idiots, if you don't feel bad about eating something that's dead, go kill your mum and eat her. Fat Mike is a fucking vegan now,so pull your tongue out his ass, or even better keep it in there and follow in his footsteps.

  • @bradaman46 killing my mom and eating her is the same as eating a burger.. yea totally bro, good one.

  • its all good to me i like food.but you can keep ur satin an tofu

  • MMMMMMM Steak

  • you suck if red meat is on the back burner . Hippies

  • hey look at me im a hippie, i only eat organic meat

  • tell me what's wrong if i eat fat mike? :) ¬¬

  • good old nofx

  • i don't feel bad about eating something's thats DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Veggies and vegans are no fun.

  • @horrorjunkie92 guess you don't like NOFX, as most of them are veggie.

  • @horrorjunkie92 I like to eat Veggies and Vegans

  • as gandhi said, "you can judge the advancement of civilisation by the way they treat their animals". Think we pretty much fail. But then again, we treat humans in the same way, like resources.

  • @destinationuknown85 humans are the best resource

  • If you eat human, too, it makes it okay.

  • This album's embarrassing, as is all NOFX prior to White Trash. El Jefe took them from obscure garbage to the second best band in the world. I still have no idea why Fat Mike was allowed to continue on as the singer, but it is unique. He is one lucky marxist millionaire.

  • @DMcFed you're a fucking idiot man.

  • cuz if a big animal had a chance it wouldn't take another glance, it would eat u up! different song, but good reference

  • i like this song!

  • Thank goodness he's a vegetarian now.

  • @madvegan66 who?

  • @yescharliesurfs Fat Mike

  • @madvegan66 I dont think so dude, i dont think so...

  • @madvegan66 It's not a problem if it's a lifestyle choice, but animal rights? Give me a break! PETA and all those hypocrites want to give animals more rights than some humans in this world. Why don't we look at the third world countries before we begin looking into animal rights.

  • @muler321 Not all AR activists are into PETA, I am, but I know lots who hate them. About human rights, most of the activists I know, me included, are also into human rights; if we could use meat to feed the hungry children in 3rd world countries we would. We realy don't need animal products to live, so we don't use them, if we can avoid HUMAN and ANIMAL cruelty we do.

  • @madvegan66 It's too bad that PETA is really good at spreading lies (just like any corporation) and it's also too bad that you were evolved with canine teeth for eating meat and you don't use them. Being a vegetarian isn't even healthy.

  • @ooJDMoo you are wrong in so many ways. You read just what meat companies want you to (just like you say about PETA). Watch MeatInc for instance, and do some research. You can get all you need from vegetables, plus in this day and ages the way animals are treated is disgusting. We turned them into a resource, well i guess just like we did with human beings. Human resources departments, what an insult. Same mindset. Open your mind bro.

  • @destinationuknown85 That's why I eat organic meat, Meat Inc. is just exactly the shit I'm talking bout, propagandist bullshit that tries to persuade people that all meat is bad for them. There are plenty of animals out there that are treated justly and used for human consumption, Jesus christ how dare you tell me to open my when you are the one who is falling for the bullshit that the corporations are feeding you.

  • @ooJDMoo Its not propaganda lol. If you actually watched the documentary (the guy who made it eats meat) it explains exactly that about organic meat and supporting local farm produce. And no one is trying to say meat is bad for you, its more complicated than that and effects ethics, morality, etc etc. And i can assure you i am not falling for anything. I made a conscious decision to stop eating meat based on many reasons and alot of thought.

  • @muler321 who's to say we should save the people in 3rd word countries. the food supply is getting bad as it is.

  • @mommysantichrist Therefore, more animals should be used for food, or we might have to resort to cannibalism.

  • @muler321 no my point being we shouldn't focus all our time on saving said 3rd worlds because it just takes away from the rest of the food supply and it's not really a war we can win.

  • @mommysantichrist because all the farms of the world (this is fact, do some research) are using their fields to plant crops to feed animals which are then sold to mass corporations and end up in fast food - why do you think you can buy a cheeseburger for $1 or 99 pence but try buy some vegetables for the same price. Its so much more complicated than you think.

  • @destinationuknown85 you think i don't know that? your preaching to the wrong person hombre.

  • @muler321 dude, we create world hunger by the fact we use crop fields to feed animals on mass industrial scale to feed fat people who want their big macs and cheeseburgers. Use that land to grow crops which could feed faaar more people. Oh, but capitalism breeds greed doesn't it, thats why america is the fattest nation on the globe. Go get your cheesebuger, and maybe a clue somewhen in your miserable self centered existance.

  • @destinationuknown85 what the fuck is gonna feed the cows then? If we give it to all the starving africans? India would be pissed i tell you hwhat

  • Why eat beans, when you could eat stake in stead?

    Beans are quite tasty, healthy and cheap! But godddaaamn! A nice fat stake, inner fillet (Excuuse my french.) Little bloody in the middle. I mean good healthy red, but no that dark transulesnt raw meat.

    There is it. Total satisfaction acompanied with a nice strong tannin glass of whine. Even if you are poor, its worth it. To feel this joy and even feel that your are a successful. My personal twist is to watch a vampire movie at the same time.

  • Isn't this supposed to have another side of the track?

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  • SICK!

  • it`s like the descendents, except lame.

  • are you aware that fat mike IS a vegetarian, i dont really know if he meant what he wrote on this song or just sang what meat eaters think.

  • @2887466 he wasnt a veggie when he wrote this song look on wiki or a biography or sumit

  • @stokeybacon88 yes he hated vegetarian protesters, and then he read more and then he became a vegetarian

  • @dissonantcry Sir, if you think your body is designed by evolution, why are you concerned with slapping God in the face? Of whose team are you on?

  • grow up dumbass

  • You think I'm the dumbass your fuckin name is kitty cupcake! your gay!

  • so i'm gay because of my username? hahaha what are you 12 years old?

  • Yeah no straight guy would go by kitty cupcake. And no I am 18. You must be either gay, a midget, a mentally dysfunctional gay butt pirate or 5 years old. And I bet you like hello kitty too.

  • actually i'm a chick, and i made this account in 2007, and choose this username because i wanted be a scene kid.

  • Lol scene. Anyway ok it all makes sense now that u said ur a girl.

  • I'm not a vegetarian, and frankly i dont give a shit about animals, but you'r way more stupid then all the vegetarians together.. if you can't stand diferent opinions.. then do us all a favor and go kill your self...

  • I'm workin on it but thanks for the encouragment! I just need to find a gun somewhere...

  • Go for it, i'll say ;)

  • Thanks for the support. I'm a little choosy about the method I'm going to use. Any suggestions?

  • Try to fuck your self... ;)

  • You mean like stick my dick in my asshole? Well that's a tall order but I'll see what I can do. I'm gonna beat the shit out of the vegetarians when I go to hell though.

  • No, you're not, because hell doesn't exist. And if it did, we'd kick your ass. :)

  • @Deadleader555 That's a difficult thing to do.

  • NOFX !! THE LAST PUNX ON EARTH!!

  • lol that doesnt sound like fat mike

  • and now mike is a vegan..hahaha

  • He's not a vegan... he just said he cares more about animal rights.. he's still eating meat.. ;)

  • Yeah he is bro, he became vegetarian bac in like 97 and has been ever since then.

  • Funny because i saw a video of him at the warped tour, eating meat... and everyone at the reaction sections bitching about it, asif cows are fucking holy -.-'..

    Ow.. at their private concerts... they play'd not only this songs.. but also "Shut Up Already".. and both of theese songs ridicule vegetarians.. so yea ;D

  • where did you see this video you're talking about?

  • Just search for : NOFX Interview... you'll probaly find... i'm realy too lazy to send this now dude... If you realy dont find, just send me a mensage, and i send ya later.

  • BTW : He also ate duck meat in their world tour documentary.. he probaly used many drugs that obviously has animal ingredients (and animal tested poison) and he still uses leather... so once again.. he cares about animals, but he still use them and probaly eat them.. That dosent mean he eats alot.. maybe less then what he used to ;)

  • that's wierd, i kinda remember the duck meat thing from backstage passport though.

  • Rsrs.. ;)

  • He doesn't care about animals, he just cuts down on eating them cause it's healthy ;)

  • are the other band members vegetarian? cause el hefe is kinda fat. i feel fat mike is really lame ever since the war on errorism. instead of making fun of punk stereotype, he became one and started hating on bush to be cool. and everyone, including the biggest nofx fans, have to admit rock against bush was stupid.

  • i dont think speaking against the government should be labled as a 'stereotype', its the foundation of WHY punk exists... a stereotype would be alcohilic drug abusers, and nofx has been that since day one!! hahaha

  • idiot, watch his interviews he just have a good way to see how the world is managed and stuff

  • no. fat mike has stupid world views. he agrees with propagandhi

  • He dosent agree completaly with Propaghandi on every single issue. He even made fun of Christ Hanna many times.. Propaghandi is a cool band, but very extreem at a bunch of shit..

  • \anyone who takes themselves too seriously sould not listen to NOFX

    or breathe

  • he made this song back then I think but he goes a little overboard sometimes when writting songs and now hes a vegetarian, thats a little akward

  • love this song. seen 'em in '99 at the house of blues, orlando, fl. they still touring??

  • i love how they use Andantino By Matteo Carcassi in the beginning of the song :) i actually know how to play that, its very fun :)

  • I'm a vegetarian, but I still love this song.

  • So's fat mike

  • fat mike isnt that fat

  • have heard this in years boss song, cheers for putting if up

  • this song fukin rocks!

  • You know, Fat Mike is a vegetarian and supported animal rights, so it is very ironic to make this song. deafcon4 - get your facts right.

  • actually this is an old song when he/they didnt care really but now they got older and more wiser then support animal rights etc watch the dvd or look on here about it :)

  • fuck a vegan supremacist.

  • yeaheheheh

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