Well, fight-wise, not much... He doesn't even crack top 20 LHW.
But if you ask President of UFC Dana White and owners of Zuffa the Fertitta brothers, Bonnar was basically one half of the reason UFC got tv deals extended which began their mainstream climb.
Plus,don't ever rule out the important part gatekeepers play in the fight game.
After all, not everyone can be champion at the same time,and the young guys have to be tested early on:)
LOL at these Dana stooges buying into the crap. Anderson Silva's opponents were more or less tomato cans as well, with the exception of Hendo and Vitor who are legends in the sport. Why doesn't anyone address that? Fedor in his prime beat legends like Nogueira (twice), Cro Cop, was dropped on his head by Randleman who is a brutal wrestler and a supertalent in Arlovski.
Just cause they're not champion doesnt mean there arguement is invalid. if that was the case in life, 99% of the U.S population should'nt even vote, let all the companies and professional do it.
Yeah, Fedor is really overrated...... because Bonnar has done soo much in his career like winning the first season of TUF; wait that didn't happen. Wait what did Bonnar do actually?
@evolution199331 that's besides the point, Fedor is suppose to be one of the greatest MMA fighters ever and has never fought in the UFC. At no point did Bonnar and KenFlo say they were the best in the world or anything like that.
back in 08, 07 and 06 there wasn't many HW who could step to fedor an beat him, there was no better HW than him, the best HWs was minotauro and crocop and he beat them both (coleman has always sucked but he was among the best cause there was not many HW) he was top of the food chain back then....now the hw division is bigger and theres more competition..like mike tyson, there was no better boxers who could beat him when he was at the top, competition back then was weak and tyson was a beast...
I hate to say it but they are right. Fedor is not the same fighter anymore but he's still the best heavyweight ever in the history of this sport. Personally for me he's the best MMA fighter EVER, period.
hahah who the F is bonnar to talk , didnt he got own by coleman in 09, guess who beat the crap out of colman in 06 FEDOR. nuff said everyone was riding fedors dick when he was winnng, and after a loss the guy sucks come on and as for the ufc champs really most of them have fought the same guys atleast 2 or 3 times. is easy to talk shit when they dont have the guy in front of them.
i used to admire forian for being smart.. and i never liked bonnar ever.. but now my respect for florian is completely gone by commenting his opinion over fedor lately. he now becomes puppet of dana "bald" White. you both guys are kissing dana's ass! jackasses and losers like florian and bonnar dont deserve to mention even to talk about the greatest fighter of all time. adding insults to injury.. hope your next fights someone will k o your asses. i would love to see that
@parokyano0210 Oh and your allowed to talk about the great Fedor? Your majesty, Fedor was once the top dog in the heavyweight division, but alot has changed in the past couple of years. The level of competition has caught to him, with added size to boot. Just look at Matt Hughes. The same thing happened in a division he used to rule, although in a much smaller scale. I still believe Fedor can compete at the top level, provided he cuts down to fight at 205. Set a fight with Ortiz to break him in
@dss103 Do you really believe he can still compete at the top level? Me as a true Fedor fan would love to believe that, but me as a realistic person thinks it isn't so. In a perfect world, say he does cut ties with his goofy ass management, drops down to 205, and signs with the UFC. Do you really think he does well against the new breed of fighters, or does he become a thing in the past? Much like Chuck Liddell, Randy, Wanderlei, etc?
@parokyano0210 dude he has lost 3 straight his last fight was against hendo a small 205 guy come on get off his nuts for his time he was great the guy one 32 straight cant take that away from the man but like a lot of other greats his time has past
@jaimedancosmo all fighter has a down time hes the greatest for decade then hes having a downtime 3 straight loss then he's done? did someone dominates the entire division for 10 years? and whatyatalking bout a submission loss to wedum but hes dominating? a doctor stoppage bcoz they cant stop the bleeding? the henderson fight that he is dominating then dan hit him with a lucky punch that stops prematurely??
@parokyano0210 as i said you cant take away the mans legacy but name a top 5 heavyweight fedor beats and fedor wasnt dominating werdum or hendo he did his usual bum rush swinging haymakers the sport is past that now jds would pick him to pieces so would overeem brock would take him down easy and maul him fuck even frank mir would have his number the guy is still a legend but in same way Hoyce Gracie and Ken Shamrock are legends the sport has passed him by while he was fighting hand picked bums
Florian needs to get his facts straight, Fedor never said he was the best in the world and never felt like he had to prove anything to anyone, he fights simply because that is what he loves to do.
Bonnar prefaced his comments by describing himself as a "huge mma fan", not as a UFC fighter.
I thought his arguments were spot on.At no point did Bonnar disrespect Fedor. In fact, he finished up his comments by requesting a Fedor/Overeem match and soon.
Kenny's comments were spot on as well. His remark about Fedor having to prove himself is spot on.
As a huge Fedor fan back in the day, I have not seen anything impressive from him for years.
@SLAVESweARE We are over Fedor..We respect him as one of the greatest and i actually don' talk about Fedor much, even though i'm a huge fan.. It's usually the Fedor bashers that keep bringing him up! I mean they keep talking about how he fought cans, blah blah blah~ And most of the things aren't true! If they dont' think he's worthy why do they keep talking about him? It just doesn't make sense. And if Dana doesn't he's great, why did he want to sign him so badly? None of this makes sense!
@dingdongmalice no fedor is a fucking tomato can. as this video pointed out. never understood how any right minded person would even begin to consider fedor as even a top 10 HW. MMA fan or not it doesnt take a genius to figure out fedor is the most over rated piece of garbage to ever fight in MMA.
The problem is that Fedor the legend is more valuable than Fedor the man to M-1 Global. No disrespect to M-1 as a fighting promotion, but it's a serious conflict of interest to have a promotion managing a fighter.
fedor is just overrated hes the mayweather of mma a ducking artist who refused to sign with ufc because he knew he would get destroyed not just lose destroyed
@radioclash84 , None of you Fedor fanatics can or are willing to see the truth for what it is. Fedor did not fight the best since PRIDE and his overall ability has gone down some because of it. That is why he is losing today, if one doesn't improve others will improve over you. That is what is happeneing to Fedor.
@radioclash84 To bash Bonnar and K-Flo for saying what they think as commentators i think is a bit unfair. They are just saying what many of us thought. As far as who fought who......Fedor fought good guys in PRIDE, like Big Nog, Randleman, Cro Cop and others. He did well, but since then he has fought either has beens or cans. Not top notch dudes like before. The top guys in the UFC are pretty fuckin' good as HW's go and i don't think Fedor can beat any of them as of now. Ubereems is there now.
@radioclash84 , Hey...I agree with a lot that you say here especially about Dana White, I'm no fan of Dana, but he does have the best dudes right now. Alovski, Sylvia, Ridgers are all cans in my book. Arlovski being the best out of them all. Carwin still has much to prove, but the others are respectable. I would like to see Fedor fight them but he wont do well against them right now.
@radioclash84 Once again I agree with you on the point of Organizations, they do have a lot of power with respect to making fights and tying fighters up to fight the tops. But boxing had the same issue, i don't agree with you about Fedor retiring. I feel he can get back to the top he is not too old. He just needs to practice more than Sambo, get new trainers and high-level practice partners to get back to a high level. He can actually win again.
@radioclash84 Say what you want but CAIN is nooooooo Joke!! Fedor would get smashed by that dude, also i don't think Fedor can beat Lesnar now, Fedor did duck Overeeem when he was Strikeforce Champion. Stuff like this I have a problem with. Just like Mayweather ducking the Pac-Man, Mayweather can't call himself the best until he fights that guy. DOn't care how many chumps he beats, beat Pac-Man then i'll say he's the best.
@radioclash84 , Cain came from Strikeforce right into the UFC came up the ranks and beat Lesnar. Lesnar beat Couture(who fedor ducked) Frank Mir a top ranked HW, Carwin and Cain beat him badly. Cain will have to stay at the top and let's see if he will be able to do this, but he will fight the best in the game to say there, no cans and has beens. The last 7 guys Fedor has fought have all been cans or has beens, and people are calling this guy the greatest?? No way!
1.5 just for throwing punches? thats too much for fedor anyway because he fucking sucks and is too much of pussy to fight overeem or brock lesnar let alone velasquez or JDS
MARK HUNT ?, not competition enough for fedor ?, PLEASE !...Mark hunt is one of the best fighter to ever walk thee earth
you put cain valezques, junior dos santos, brock lesnar, frank mir, shane carwin in a K-1 ring with Mark Hunt ?...THEY WILL DIE, i put my life on that !
Bonner sucks !!! jones made him look like a over used high school slut
@conner1ize WOW Im stupid ? for what ?. You dont even know who Mark Hunt is and have probably never saw his fights YOU DUMB ASS UFC FAN COCK SUCKER !!!
people keep talking about fedor and his prime however tim, andre, hendo all kicked out the ufc cause they couldnt keep up with the competition. they were not in there prime never mind fador.
@Stewartde123 Dana White wants Hendo back.. so it wasn't because he couldn't cut it in the UFC.. Why do u fans always think when a fighter leaves Ufc , it's because they can't cut it.. Have u ever considered that maybe it can be money disputes? Or maybe fighters wanting to try different things? Comon dude, stop copying latest buzz words and grow some personality and come up with ur own comments.. Copying Dana's comment or the latest buzz words, and repeating the same comments is pointless..
@Stewartde123 What do you know Tim left of his own, n on good terms with Dana, he didn't get kicked out, his last win was against Vera , and Hendo was more on money disagreement he was next in line to fight Anderson 4 a second time, Dana does not care who's next in line, he was going to hype up Vitor Belfort. So Dan went to SF force and lost to Jake!
@wally316 Like any sport there is a new guard of young athletes coming in. Fedor's biggest problem simply might have been since the pride days, he just didn't have enough quality fights per year. The loss to Hendo was bad for his perception, esp with the new breed of heavyweights who are just massive.
@TheAngeltoDemon U said Fedor's biggest problem simply might have been since the pride days, he just didn't have enough quality fights per year,
Me ur joking he cleaned out the HW's N in pride fedor fought more quality opponents then what the UFC had to offer, N know body wanted anything to do with him in any GP weight! What r u smoking something Pride had the best fighter's in that time. Its not Fedor fault pride went under, making UFC winner by default in 2nd place org.
@wally316 I was talking about AFTER pride, basically the past couple years. I agree, he was the man back in the day, i remember watching him quite a bit. Problem, and it's tough to explain is that alot of the pride legends haven't done shit versus the new crop of figthers. Crocop, Rua (vs Jones really), Hendo, Wanderlei, Fedor....a couple have done pretty well, Shogun, rampage. But seriously, Fedor and Crocop were legendary feared pride fighters, what happened?Btw, ufc bought pride.
@wally316 Age is definitely a possibility, but i don't think is the whole story. To be more fair to crocop, i believe his first fight with the ufc, he suffered a BAD knockout headkick by Gonzaga, and it seems fighters only have a certain number of bad knockouts they can take. Think, Roy jones jr, lidell, wanderlei, crocop. So in that sense, fight age is a big factor, and lately add Fedor. I still think fedor can make a comeback, he just needs to join the UFC monopoly. Crocop is done
Bonner calling it out, and so true it was......so true it was. Fedor's whole record since 2005 has been 2nd tier and 3rd tier competition. Nobody wants to call it out on this dude. 10 years unbeaten record.....booleshyytt!
anyone realized bonnar said fedor beat arloski AND brett rogers in the first round? last time i saw the rogers fight it went into the second round.. lol
I agree with them. It's Fedor's fault, not that I blame him for not joining the UFC, he's a man of integrity & wasn't willing to bend over for Dana white but if he had joined, he would still be in his prime. you have to fight the best to stay sharp. at the very least, you need to train with the best & Fedor has never done that so once he stopped fighting high level guys, he spiralled down to retirement
@TenTonHorse thanks. it pains me to say it because I always thought fedor would retain the skills no matter who he fought but he lost the sense of urgency and focus once he stopped fighting guys that were a legitimate threat. I think if he worked it out with the UFC he would still be undefeated and probably stay that way til he turned 40. He's still young but he's such a big name he can't get fights against the level of opponents he needs to get back to his winning ways.
@thnk4urself , about one of the most sensible points i have heard made except for myself. I said that since he has'nt fought top comp his skills eroded, that is why he is getting beat. Seems like to me most of the Fedor nuthuggers can't see this most basic but critical point. Also you can't be the best until you have beaten the best consistently. Think4urself,...looks like you think pretty straight.
@nagone11 well honestly, until he lost to bigfoot, I wasn't really on that wavelength. I believed that when you're someone who has proven so much especially the way he did, that it takes a little more than not fighting the best to dethrone him. his skills would stay intact but the sense of urgency didn't. I thought that he was an exception to the rule because he had never lost and seemed very different from others but he isn't, he's just a very gifted fighter, but not as invincible as he seemed
@thnk4urself , well the point is that you see the truth. No Champion can stay Champion if he doesn't fight the best and train to fight the best. There is no invincible fighter in fact almost all Champions have lost. The big difference between the suckers and true Champs are the ones that get up from a loss, IMPROVE, comeback and BEAT THE BEST. That is the true test of a Champion, ....not ducking tough competition and padding one's record with cans.
@nagone11 no you're completely wrong. Fedor never ducked anyone and never padded his record. if you knew the whole story with the UFC, you would know that Fedor would've been a complete idiot and a coward to take what UFC offered. the ufc refused co-promotion. Fedor needs co-promotion because he owns M1 not to mention they gave him an insulting offe and he has never liked how they treat fighters, neither do I. Fedor's not afraid of anybody, not even now. he's a warrior, not floyd mayweather
@thnk4urself , OOPS.... your straight thinking just took a detour........sure he ducked the UFC and they could have made a deal but........well ok let's not argue that point (eventhough many thought he did), how does one explain the Overeem debacle and not letting that happen, when UBEREEMS was Strikeforce Champion?? Even Alistar said the dude was ducking him?? Couture hooked up AFFLICTION, still no deal could be made with Fedor?? He fought no serious competition in 5 years, how is this??
@conner1ize so apparently you know what his other contracts are like? plus the money he makes from m1? you have no clue do you? his management wouldn't allow it anyway but UFC would've made so much off that fight, with refusing co-promotion anything under $5 mil is rediculous. he owns 30% of M1, you really think the $1.5 mil is enough for him to forsake his own company? a company he continues to make millions on. he has said before, he doesn't have to prove anything, his family comes 1st
@the24th1 thank you. glad there are still some mma fans that didn't just start watching yesterday and just assume anything not in the UFC can't be any good. pride made ufc look like a joke 6 years ago, fedor was king 4 of those years, and 6 years before that, I think that deserves more respect than he's getting
@thnk4urself did you share beds with Fedor last night or something? did you even hear what Stephan had to say? dude, he is a freak show, he is on the 3 lose streak. most of his fights were cherry picked by his management. Vadim, that crazy mother fucker got Fedor's balls, Fedor cant go anywhere without this guy. Anyway, name one good opponent that fedor fought since cro cop or noguiera? exactly.
@coolasshole23 I never said anything bad about bonnar, I agreed with him. his management sucks and probably is the main reason ufc refused to co promote. now he's going to be fighting in russia supposedly. I'm not saying he's still the best, but the underlying talent he still has is undeniable but useless because he's doing everything else wrong. like I said, you have to train with and fight the best to remain the best, even if you're fedor, if he doesn't do that then he should retire
@thnk4urself my bad man my bad for misunderstanding you, and I agree with your statement, it made perfect sense. If Fedor wants to get better he should move to the u.s and get a better training camp. My fault for misunderstanding you, and you are absolutely right. Your statement nailed it, and it made perfect sense.
@coolasshole23 thanks no problem. Fedor's a hot topic, it's hard not to get into heated arguments over him. People like me that have been watching since he joined pride really hate it when people ignore the past 11 yrs just bcuz right now, he's way off the mark from what he used to be. I still think without a doubt he was everything he was cracked up to be and more but right now he has just lost the mental strength that made him the best. I think people listen to Dana White a bit too much.
@thnk4urself Fedor did lose the Mental strength, and he is simply not hungry for it anymore. Back in Pride days Fedor was simply a destroyer. He fought Mirco Cro Cop in his prime, and defeated him, and defeated noguiera 3 times in his prime. However, Fedor needs to change his training routines, find a new management, and drop to 205. If that happens, I dont think anyone in the light heavyweight division can challenge him. But, he looked great against dan Henderson, the stop was a bit early.
@coolasshole23 I agree, the stop was early & Herb based the stoppage based on how his body looked not his mental state. As strong as Fedor was mentally in his prime, he has lost that. He lost the hunger, he lost the sense of urgency and danger. He still has the skills and doesn't seem to have lost much as far as chin & he's technically not that old.I'd like to hope if he went to a high level gym like jacksons he maybe able to come back at 205 but I don't think he wants to & not sure if he can
@thnk4urself 1.5 just for throwing punches? thats too much for fedor anyway because he fucking sucks and is too much of pussy to fight overeem or brock lesnar let alone velasquez or JDS
This is Bullshit, Fedor should have fought better competition, namely Randy Couture back in 2006 or 2007 and went from there. Nothing to take away from his accomplishments, but he missed out on making some big fights and big money. I hope this shit doesn't happen to Pacman and Mayweather, but Floyd such a puss, it ain't gonna happen. Fedor 3strikes, you're out. In my opinion he's fat, he should get in proper shape and fight at LHW, like the guy he lost to..Hendo.
@TheAngeltoDemon It's more of a prime thing then the fat he holds. Fedor is not explosive anymore. He use 2 b very in witching the gear's in transition like water he can't no more that's y everyone see's him willing to stand n exchange more then he use 2 with strikes against any 1. The wonder that is Dan is that he is a great wrestler slash CHIN N if he is losing a striking exchange he can always take the fight down avoiding any more damage.
@wally316 Fedor needs to do something drastic, given UFC's latest Fox deal as well, it's going to be a long road to climb for him for the US premier promoter to want to sign him. Not joking here, UFC is in a position to put Fedor in the ultimate fighter reality show.....cause his latest losses really screwed him.
@TheAngeltoDemon Fedor needs 2 do what best 4 him, his already the Ali of the world, his still dangerous but not anything like he use 2 b,UFC does not suit him + he own's a % of an empire, he has already had the greatest career of all time. U only want 2 c him lose 2 the new generation 2 discredit Fedor of all his past accomplishment. It's a prime thing buddy. N all u UFC American hate him. Look at Boxing HW it's been dead 4 yrs not bcuz of mma but bcuz USA is not the champion
@wally316 The USA part is NOT true at all, most MMA fans are alot more cultured than your typical amercan. Boxing has just sucked in the USA, so let's save that for a different discussion, but pacquio is prob more well liked in USA vs. Mayweather. Fedor used to be a legend, it is a shame he didn't go with the UFC. The diehard fight fans still respect what he's done in the past, but his legacy will be damaged if he doesn't go for the UFC, who bought pride/strikeforce and now has Fox TV.
@TheAngeltoDemon Know lol not really UFC was dying n going under, a reality show TUF saved it. At the same time pride was growing and i had real MMA fan such as I. I causal fan idiots UFC slash TUF saved UFC not the reall fans. Causal fans out number most in USA. But hey you got the cultured part right.
@wally316 I agree with your points. Pride was awesome, i remember clearly first watching it and going, WTF, this is awesome, was like porn for the first time:) Are you russian?
@TheAngeltoDemon Know am Mexican And I grew up watching UFC and Pride and I think outside the box! I know a prime Nog or Fedor would take the strong battle to Cain and Win. I love MMA but I hate business nonsenses, and I hate patriotism, and am not know Nazi but i don't fallow the hype or crowd, it's good to be American but its not a fucking marriage i will question anything and everything!
I can't tell you 3 years ago, how many fight fans all thought fedor was the best. Now, what can we say after what has happened. The ultimate fighter show comment was harsh, but still, he should do what the best fighters today are doing, do real good camps, get a nutritionist, etc. he is not a true heavyweight, same with crocop. He is still pretty young, i don't think it's all about prime. Look, fedor can retire and will always be a name, but he will be forgotten unfotuntely.
@TheAngeltoDemon U C, u wish he will b forgotten unfortunately, this just tells me so much more who u are. Age is the factor n is the facts buddy, Were is Chuck in age Dana said his to old, Were is Matt hughs, Victor in he in his career right now? Not at the top gate keeper yes.
@wally316 You said it yourself, there are more casual fans than the ones who really know, from the pride days. I agree with you on the age thing, but I think he can make a comeback. My main thing is , I think Fedor should do steroids like some of the other LHW, and go for a run at 205 in the UFC. As far as the forgotten thing, UFC signing with fox will ensure he is forgotten. Ask how many young kids today, what they think of Fedor, prob won't be good. Power of the media, sad reality.
@TheAngeltoDemon Who know if he doing Roids or not I can't say that he is, I wouldn't b surprised if any fighter did? there is ways to get past it an all, n u get caught or u don't.
Stephen Bonnar,"we need to give this guy some competition." Well we got it, & got exposed. Couldn't even get out of the first round of the tournament. Fedor is what I always knew he was, as one f those great PRIDE fighters of old. Wanderlei, Noguiera, Cro Cop, Hendo, etc. But he's definately not the greatest of all time, especially considering his gilded record of 2nd tier opponents after PRIDE & even during. Many people disliked this video, but they had it right. proof is in the pudding.
For those people who think Fedor is "overrated" because he lost 2 fights when he's 34 years old: 31 - 3 - 0 with only 7 decision victories and has fought wrestlers, sub specialists and KO artists throughout his entire career. Everyone gets older but he's still the best of all time.
@Reckin007 My bad I should have said that Fedor's management is scared. And he's fighting a guy who lost to Welterweight, a Welterweight who barely pulled off a win against Kampman. Big deal.
@thetrooper42 Why wouldn't he take this fight? He's fighting a well known fighter from the US so he's going to get noticed in the US market. Is he supposed to turn it down if they offer it to him? Dan is 40 years old and has been fighting far tougher competition than Fedor has. Fedor isn't training this hard because he thinks the fight will be easy.
@Reckin007 Didn't say he shouldn't take the fight. I'm just saying the man lost to a Welterweight so even with a win I'm not impressed. Fedor has lost his mojo. Just accept it.
@cartmanluc stephan is light heavy... im sure if he didnt cut weight like fedor theyd be around the same weight and personally fedor would trash him, yeah hes lot to werdum,henderson, and silva but hey i dont really think that matters cuz stephan lost to mark coleman whom fedor beat like what twice already
@muayboran96 It's tough to call. Fedor fell face first. And the ref is there to protect the fighters, and enforce the rules, nothing else. When a fighter falls face first, typically on the way up, they will only eat bigger and heavier shots because of the way they have to position themselves. And with someone like Hendo on your back, if Fedor would have tried to stand up from that, 9/10 likely that he would have ended up eating bigger shots. Fedor has one hell of a legacy, but that is the past.
@PhenomAJ and u think if rematch comes to deal fedor will not own hendo?dont be a noob hendo was just lucky and this is not fedor in his prime he is empty
@TheDomy24 "call people i don't know names from behind a keyboard". Classy.
Lucky eh? Fedor's one of the all time greats, but when you get layed out, you get layed out. Hendo BEAT him. Fedor may win the rematch, that's the nature of MMA, that's what makes it awesome.
But you saw with your own eyes what Hendo did, so stop sugar coating.
@PhenomAJ dude dont play smart?so what hendo beat him congrats that still doesnt mean fedor isnt greatest mma fighter of all time?ALI lost last matches,tyson did too,roy jones is losing etc does that mean they suck or something else?
@PhenomAJ -that was an asshole comment cause everyone knows fedor hasnt won any of his previous 3fights. one being by hendo. I never said he beat Hendo.Even though the fight in my opinion and many others got stopped early. But he would beat stephan and bonnar.
O-M-Gee!!! I wish people would understand that they are on (read this carefully) 'MMA LIVE' when asked a question they give an honest opinion. Do they think they can beat fedor? I really don't think they can. Does it matter? Are y'all really that sensitive when actual ufc fighters say something about fedor? Get off his dick!! He's not in his prime anymore
Fedor has gotten his ass whipped twice in a row, dan henderson will put his ass down and retire him. Fedor used to be respected but he threw that all away.
@TopazSkillMauler Ye, to American nuthuggers and Zuffa Zombies. To the rest of the Educated MMA fans, they are pathetic. Fedor is a legend in the sport, and anyone talking bad about him is most likely from UFC and tries to get on Dana's good side. If you ask ANY fighter outside of UFC, they ALL have tons of respect to Fedor.
Just sitt your faggot ass down, try get a girl instead. Oh right, you dont like girls.. sorry.
Nobody gives a shit about Kenny Florian, or Stephan Bonnar, in 35 fights has Fedor ever been knocked out? No, he's only been submitted once, Fedor is a hero to all mma fans, fighters have nothing but respect for him, shut the hell up
Answer this, has Fedor ever been knocked out? Fedor tapped out once in 35 fights, both losses were doctor stoppages, Fedor has got a lot more to offer, plus he's fighting another legend in Dan Henderson, rated as high as the #2 light heavyweight in the world, your full of crap if u think he should hang em up, he's got a big fight this saturday, what r ur plans besides just staying home, Go Fedor!.
You must not be a mma fan, It would be an honor to lose to a guy like Dangerous Dan, some call him hollywood hendo, Dangerous Dan, and most recently H Bomb, since your such an idiot, I will explain H stands for hydrogen bomb, nuclear weapons, Hendo is a legend, Fedor vs, Hendo was a fight with both fighters having close to 30 fights, and neither fedor or hendo had never been knocked out, those numbers dont lie boy.
I think all these criticisms shouldn't be leveled at Fedor himself so much, he's always said that he'll fight who ever gets put in front of him. It's his management who have treated him like the golden egg he is and have ferociously protected his "aura", which includes booking mismatches. It's sad but it is what it is. He was still (essentially) undefeated for 30 fights and some of those were very, very legit opponents.
Stephan Bonnar would beat Fedor... Too scrappy to lose to flabby Fedor
GalsiaDonovan 4 weeks ago
lol Stephan Bonnar is a faggot. What the fuck has he done in the sport.. dick
tkotomy 1 month ago
"What the fuck has (Bonnar) done in the sport?"
Well, fight-wise, not much... He doesn't even crack top 20 LHW.
But if you ask President of UFC Dana White and owners of Zuffa the Fertitta brothers, Bonnar was basically one half of the reason UFC got tv deals extended which began their mainstream climb.
Plus,don't ever rule out the important part gatekeepers play in the fight game.
After all, not everyone can be champion at the same time,and the young guys have to be tested early on:)
SLAVESweARE 1 month ago
LOL at these Dana stooges buying into the crap. Anderson Silva's opponents were more or less tomato cans as well, with the exception of Hendo and Vitor who are legends in the sport. Why doesn't anyone address that? Fedor in his prime beat legends like Nogueira (twice), Cro Cop, was dropped on his head by Randleman who is a brutal wrestler and a supertalent in Arlovski.
RaphaelDeLaGhetto87 1 month ago
Fedor is a cocksucking bitch
JackShephard 1 month ago
Fedor ko'd rogers in the 2nd round not the first
VBCABC123 2 months ago
What the fuck have these 2 done in the sport? Not even fucking champions.
KyockLee123 2 months ago
@KyockLee123
Just cause they're not champion doesnt mean there arguement is invalid. if that was the case in life, 99% of the U.S population should'nt even vote, let all the companies and professional do it.
davistran510 2 months ago
Yeah, Fedor is really overrated...... because Bonnar has done soo much in his career like winning the first season of TUF; wait that didn't happen. Wait what did Bonnar do actually?
evolution199331 4 months ago 3
@evolution199331 that's besides the point, Fedor is suppose to be one of the greatest MMA fighters ever and has never fought in the UFC. At no point did Bonnar and KenFlo say they were the best in the world or anything like that.
KCIAN2 2 months ago
@evolution199331 bonnar helped popularize the sport. fedor is fat.
roejogan8 1 month ago
back in 08, 07 and 06 there wasn't many HW who could step to fedor an beat him, there was no better HW than him, the best HWs was minotauro and crocop and he beat them both (coleman has always sucked but he was among the best cause there was not many HW) he was top of the food chain back then....now the hw division is bigger and theres more competition..like mike tyson, there was no better boxers who could beat him when he was at the top, competition back then was weak and tyson was a beast...
1991VT 4 months ago
YOULL NEVER SEE KENNY AND BEN STILLER IN THE SAME ROOM LOL
MrLeebo123 4 months ago 12
I hate to say it but they are right. Fedor is not the same fighter anymore but he's still the best heavyweight ever in the history of this sport. Personally for me he's the best MMA fighter EVER, period.
wabbitXhug 4 months ago
hahah who the F is bonnar to talk , didnt he got own by coleman in 09, guess who beat the crap out of colman in 06 FEDOR. nuff said everyone was riding fedors dick when he was winnng, and after a loss the guy sucks come on and as for the ufc champs really most of them have fought the same guys atleast 2 or 3 times. is easy to talk shit when they dont have the guy in front of them.
acidponce 5 months ago
Fedors management is a dumb fuck.
ArmTriangleChoke 5 months ago
i used to admire forian for being smart.. and i never liked bonnar ever.. but now my respect for florian is completely gone by commenting his opinion over fedor lately. he now becomes puppet of dana "bald" White. you both guys are kissing dana's ass! jackasses and losers like florian and bonnar dont deserve to mention even to talk about the greatest fighter of all time. adding insults to injury.. hope your next fights someone will k o your asses. i would love to see that
parokyano0210 5 months ago
@parokyano0210 Oh and your allowed to talk about the great Fedor? Your majesty, Fedor was once the top dog in the heavyweight division, but alot has changed in the past couple of years. The level of competition has caught to him, with added size to boot. Just look at Matt Hughes. The same thing happened in a division he used to rule, although in a much smaller scale. I still believe Fedor can compete at the top level, provided he cuts down to fight at 205. Set a fight with Ortiz to break him in
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Theguyinyourcloset 5 months ago
@dss103 Do you really believe he can still compete at the top level? Me as a true Fedor fan would love to believe that, but me as a realistic person thinks it isn't so. In a perfect world, say he does cut ties with his goofy ass management, drops down to 205, and signs with the UFC. Do you really think he does well against the new breed of fighters, or does he become a thing in the past? Much like Chuck Liddell, Randy, Wanderlei, etc?
Theguyinyourcloset 5 months ago
@parokyano0210 dude he has lost 3 straight his last fight was against hendo a small 205 guy come on get off his nuts for his time he was great the guy one 32 straight cant take that away from the man but like a lot of other greats his time has past
jaimedancosmo 5 months ago
@jaimedancosmo all fighter has a down time hes the greatest for decade then hes having a downtime 3 straight loss then he's done? did someone dominates the entire division for 10 years? and whatyatalking bout a submission loss to wedum but hes dominating? a doctor stoppage bcoz they cant stop the bleeding? the henderson fight that he is dominating then dan hit him with a lucky punch that stops prematurely??
parokyano0210 4 months ago
@parokyano0210 as i said you cant take away the mans legacy but name a top 5 heavyweight fedor beats and fedor wasnt dominating werdum or hendo he did his usual bum rush swinging haymakers the sport is past that now jds would pick him to pieces so would overeem brock would take him down easy and maul him fuck even frank mir would have his number the guy is still a legend but in same way Hoyce Gracie and Ken Shamrock are legends the sport has passed him by while he was fighting hand picked bums
jaimedancosmo 4 months ago
Florian needs to get his facts straight, Fedor never said he was the best in the world and never felt like he had to prove anything to anyone, he fights simply because that is what he loves to do.
williamazn81 5 months ago
So true. fedor was ducking overeem for awhile and now overeem is not intrested anymore.
561sage 5 months ago
Its just funny that both Kenny and Stephan dont look like MMA fighters.
RedHo0d 5 months ago
Bonnar prefaced his comments by describing himself as a "huge mma fan", not as a UFC fighter.
I thought his arguments were spot on.At no point did Bonnar disrespect Fedor. In fact, he finished up his comments by requesting a Fedor/Overeem match and soon.
Kenny's comments were spot on as well. His remark about Fedor having to prove himself is spot on.
As a huge Fedor fan back in the day, I have not seen anything impressive from him for years.
Fedor WAS the best... Now lets move on finally
SLAVESweARE 5 months ago 13
@SLAVESweARE We are over Fedor..We respect him as one of the greatest and i actually don' talk about Fedor much, even though i'm a huge fan.. It's usually the Fedor bashers that keep bringing him up! I mean they keep talking about how he fought cans, blah blah blah~ And most of the things aren't true! If they dont' think he's worthy why do they keep talking about him? It just doesn't make sense. And if Dana doesn't he's great, why did he want to sign him so badly? None of this makes sense!
stockmaster1982 4 months ago
@SLAVESweARE Fedor is HW GOAT, anderson is P4P GOAT
dingdongmalice 1 month ago
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SLAVESweARE 1 month ago
@dingdongmalice no fedor is a fucking tomato can. as this video pointed out. never understood how any right minded person would even begin to consider fedor as even a top 10 HW. MMA fan or not it doesnt take a genius to figure out fedor is the most over rated piece of garbage to ever fight in MMA.
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fighter4christ7 5 months ago
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Fedor fell on his face and was unconscious, his health is more important to me than who wins a contest
AmateurGuitarCovers 5 months ago
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AmateurGuitarCovers 5 months ago
i think of fedor fights jon jones. he would get ass raped
SiestaBay239 5 months ago
The problem is that Fedor the legend is more valuable than Fedor the man to M-1 Global. No disrespect to M-1 as a fighting promotion, but it's a serious conflict of interest to have a promotion managing a fighter.
onemortal 5 months ago
Dana put them up to this - part of his reverse psychology plan to try and sign Fedor....I guess doesn't really matter now.
13charachters 5 months ago
The pros get it and Inside MMA gets it the Fedor Legacy is a joke I don't care what anyone says.
fighter4christ7 5 months ago
fedor is just overrated hes the mayweather of mma a ducking artist who refused to sign with ufc because he knew he would get destroyed not just lose destroyed
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 , None of you Fedor fanatics can or are willing to see the truth for what it is. Fedor did not fight the best since PRIDE and his overall ability has gone down some because of it. That is why he is losing today, if one doesn't improve others will improve over you. That is what is happeneing to Fedor.
nagone11 5 months ago
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 To bash Bonnar and K-Flo for saying what they think as commentators i think is a bit unfair. They are just saying what many of us thought. As far as who fought who......Fedor fought good guys in PRIDE, like Big Nog, Randleman, Cro Cop and others. He did well, but since then he has fought either has beens or cans. Not top notch dudes like before. The top guys in the UFC are pretty fuckin' good as HW's go and i don't think Fedor can beat any of them as of now. Ubereems is there now.
nagone11 5 months ago
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 , Hey...I agree with a lot that you say here especially about Dana White, I'm no fan of Dana, but he does have the best dudes right now. Alovski, Sylvia, Ridgers are all cans in my book. Arlovski being the best out of them all. Carwin still has much to prove, but the others are respectable. I would like to see Fedor fight them but he wont do well against them right now.
nagone11 5 months ago
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 Once again I agree with you on the point of Organizations, they do have a lot of power with respect to making fights and tying fighters up to fight the tops. But boxing had the same issue, i don't agree with you about Fedor retiring. I feel he can get back to the top he is not too old. He just needs to practice more than Sambo, get new trainers and high-level practice partners to get back to a high level. He can actually win again.
nagone11 5 months ago
@radioclash84 Say what you want but CAIN is nooooooo Joke!! Fedor would get smashed by that dude, also i don't think Fedor can beat Lesnar now, Fedor did duck Overeeem when he was Strikeforce Champion. Stuff like this I have a problem with. Just like Mayweather ducking the Pac-Man, Mayweather can't call himself the best until he fights that guy. DOn't care how many chumps he beats, beat Pac-Man then i'll say he's the best.
nagone11 5 months ago
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 , Cain came from Strikeforce right into the UFC came up the ranks and beat Lesnar. Lesnar beat Couture(who fedor ducked) Frank Mir a top ranked HW, Carwin and Cain beat him badly. Cain will have to stay at the top and let's see if he will be able to do this, but he will fight the best in the game to say there, no cans and has beens. The last 7 guys Fedor has fought have all been cans or has beens, and people are calling this guy the greatest?? No way!
nagone11 5 months ago
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radioclash84 5 months ago
@radioclash84 WHy did Couture think so???
nagone11 5 months ago
i swear coleman whooped bonnars ass so to say that wasnt a tough match for fedor is ridiculous
xno4 6 months ago
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Bonner is 100 percent right.
JonestownJuice123 6 months ago
1.5 just for throwing punches? thats too much for fedor anyway because he fucking sucks and is too much of pussy to fight overeem or brock lesnar let alone velasquez or JDS
conner1ize 6 months ago
As far as I'm conserned, they didn't "diss" Fedor. They called it how they saw it, not to mention spoke the truth.
eggsandwich8885 6 months ago
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HistoryHmoobGuy 6 months ago
florians head massive
shanest22 6 months ago
MARK HUNT ?, not competition enough for fedor ?, PLEASE !...Mark hunt is one of the best fighter to ever walk thee earth
you put cain valezques, junior dos santos, brock lesnar, frank mir, shane carwin in a K-1 ring with Mark Hunt ?...THEY WILL DIE, i put my life on that !
Bonner sucks !!! jones made him look like a over used high school slut
HistoryHmoobGuy 6 months ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy your too fucking stupid words lol btw jones is a world champ, fedor always sucked and your sisters the over used slut
conner1ize 6 months ago
@conner1ize WOW Im stupid ? for what ?. You dont even know who Mark Hunt is and have probably never saw his fights YOU DUMB ASS UFC FAN COCK SUCKER !!!
PLEASE DIE !!! soon !
HistoryHmoobGuy 6 months ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy LOL Pride is such BS quit cwying wittle baby
conner1ize 6 months ago
@conner1ize IM CRYING ? WAS I THE FIRST ONE TO GET MAD AT A RANDOM COMMENT ON YOUTUBE?
it was you, you cry baby BITCH !!!
HistoryHmoobGuy 6 months ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy your still crying like a bitch lol
conner1ize 6 months ago
@conner1ize PLEASE DIE
HistoryHmoobGuy 6 months ago
@HistoryHmoobGuy =,[ wahhhh =.[
conner1ize 6 months ago
people keep talking about fedor and his prime however tim, andre, hendo all kicked out the ufc cause they couldnt keep up with the competition. they were not in there prime never mind fador.
Stewartde123 6 months ago
@Stewartde123 Dana White wants Hendo back.. so it wasn't because he couldn't cut it in the UFC.. Why do u fans always think when a fighter leaves Ufc , it's because they can't cut it.. Have u ever considered that maybe it can be money disputes? Or maybe fighters wanting to try different things? Comon dude, stop copying latest buzz words and grow some personality and come up with ur own comments.. Copying Dana's comment or the latest buzz words, and repeating the same comments is pointless..
stockmaster1982 6 months ago
@Stewartde123 What do you know Tim left of his own, n on good terms with Dana, he didn't get kicked out, his last win was against Vera , and Hendo was more on money disagreement he was next in line to fight Anderson 4 a second time, Dana does not care who's next in line, he was going to hype up Vitor Belfort. So Dan went to SF force and lost to Jake!
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 Like any sport there is a new guard of young athletes coming in. Fedor's biggest problem simply might have been since the pride days, he just didn't have enough quality fights per year. The loss to Hendo was bad for his perception, esp with the new breed of heavyweights who are just massive.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon U said Fedor's biggest problem simply might have been since the pride days, he just didn't have enough quality fights per year,
Me ur joking he cleaned out the HW's N in pride fedor fought more quality opponents then what the UFC had to offer, N know body wanted anything to do with him in any GP weight! What r u smoking something Pride had the best fighter's in that time. Its not Fedor fault pride went under, making UFC winner by default in 2nd place org.
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 I was talking about AFTER pride, basically the past couple years. I agree, he was the man back in the day, i remember watching him quite a bit. Problem, and it's tough to explain is that alot of the pride legends haven't done shit versus the new crop of figthers. Crocop, Rua (vs Jones really), Hendo, Wanderlei, Fedor....a couple have done pretty well, Shogun, rampage. But seriously, Fedor and Crocop were legendary feared pride fighters, what happened?Btw, ufc bought pride.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Btw, ufc bought pride.
I know that Zuffa bought Pride, Fedor and Crocop were legendary feared pride fighters, what happened?
answer is age.
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 Age is definitely a possibility, but i don't think is the whole story. To be more fair to crocop, i believe his first fight with the ufc, he suffered a BAD knockout headkick by Gonzaga, and it seems fighters only have a certain number of bad knockouts they can take. Think, Roy jones jr, lidell, wanderlei, crocop. So in that sense, fight age is a big factor, and lately add Fedor. I still think fedor can make a comeback, he just needs to join the UFC monopoly. Crocop is done
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
Bonner calling it out, and so true it was......so true it was. Fedor's whole record since 2005 has been 2nd tier and 3rd tier competition. Nobody wants to call it out on this dude. 10 years unbeaten record.....booleshyytt!
nagone11 6 months ago
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anyone realized bonnar said fedor beat arloski AND brett rogers in the first round? last time i saw the rogers fight it went into the second round.. lol
worldinmayhem 6 months ago
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worldinmayhem 6 months ago
So what just because your opponent loses in their next fight that makes your victory illegitimate?
What FUCKING IDIOTS.
tkotomy 6 months ago
I agree with them. It's Fedor's fault, not that I blame him for not joining the UFC, he's a man of integrity & wasn't willing to bend over for Dana white but if he had joined, he would still be in his prime. you have to fight the best to stay sharp. at the very least, you need to train with the best & Fedor has never done that so once he stopped fighting high level guys, he spiralled down to retirement
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself Great comment.
TenTonHorse 6 months ago
@TenTonHorse thanks. it pains me to say it because I always thought fedor would retain the skills no matter who he fought but he lost the sense of urgency and focus once he stopped fighting guys that were a legitimate threat. I think if he worked it out with the UFC he would still be undefeated and probably stay that way til he turned 40. He's still young but he's such a big name he can't get fights against the level of opponents he needs to get back to his winning ways.
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself , about one of the most sensible points i have heard made except for myself. I said that since he has'nt fought top comp his skills eroded, that is why he is getting beat. Seems like to me most of the Fedor nuthuggers can't see this most basic but critical point. Also you can't be the best until you have beaten the best consistently. Think4urself,...looks like you think pretty straight.
nagone11 6 months ago
@nagone11 well honestly, until he lost to bigfoot, I wasn't really on that wavelength. I believed that when you're someone who has proven so much especially the way he did, that it takes a little more than not fighting the best to dethrone him. his skills would stay intact but the sense of urgency didn't. I thought that he was an exception to the rule because he had never lost and seemed very different from others but he isn't, he's just a very gifted fighter, but not as invincible as he seemed
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself , well the point is that you see the truth. No Champion can stay Champion if he doesn't fight the best and train to fight the best. There is no invincible fighter in fact almost all Champions have lost. The big difference between the suckers and true Champs are the ones that get up from a loss, IMPROVE, comeback and BEAT THE BEST. That is the true test of a Champion, ....not ducking tough competition and padding one's record with cans.
nagone11 6 months ago
@nagone11 no you're completely wrong. Fedor never ducked anyone and never padded his record. if you knew the whole story with the UFC, you would know that Fedor would've been a complete idiot and a coward to take what UFC offered. the ufc refused co-promotion. Fedor needs co-promotion because he owns M1 not to mention they gave him an insulting offe and he has never liked how they treat fighters, neither do I. Fedor's not afraid of anybody, not even now. he's a warrior, not floyd mayweather
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself , OOPS.... your straight thinking just took a detour........sure he ducked the UFC and they could have made a deal but........well ok let's not argue that point (eventhough many thought he did), how does one explain the Overeem debacle and not letting that happen, when UBEREEMS was Strikeforce Champion?? Even Alistar said the dude was ducking him?? Couture hooked up AFFLICTION, still no deal could be made with Fedor?? He fought no serious competition in 5 years, how is this??
nagone11 6 months ago
@thnk4urself AN INSULTING OFFER???????? 1.5 MILLION FOR 1 FIGHT WITH BROCK YOU STUPID BITCH
conner1ize 6 months ago
@conner1ize so apparently you know what his other contracts are like? plus the money he makes from m1? you have no clue do you? his management wouldn't allow it anyway but UFC would've made so much off that fight, with refusing co-promotion anything under $5 mil is rediculous. he owns 30% of M1, you really think the $1.5 mil is enough for him to forsake his own company? a company he continues to make millions on. he has said before, he doesn't have to prove anything, his family comes 1st
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself 100% agree
the24th1 6 months ago
@the24th1 thank you. glad there are still some mma fans that didn't just start watching yesterday and just assume anything not in the UFC can't be any good. pride made ufc look like a joke 6 years ago, fedor was king 4 of those years, and 6 years before that, I think that deserves more respect than he's getting
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself did you share beds with Fedor last night or something? did you even hear what Stephan had to say? dude, he is a freak show, he is on the 3 lose streak. most of his fights were cherry picked by his management. Vadim, that crazy mother fucker got Fedor's balls, Fedor cant go anywhere without this guy. Anyway, name one good opponent that fedor fought since cro cop or noguiera? exactly.
coolasshole23 6 months ago
@coolasshole23 I never said anything bad about bonnar, I agreed with him. his management sucks and probably is the main reason ufc refused to co promote. now he's going to be fighting in russia supposedly. I'm not saying he's still the best, but the underlying talent he still has is undeniable but useless because he's doing everything else wrong. like I said, you have to train with and fight the best to remain the best, even if you're fedor, if he doesn't do that then he should retire
thnk4urself 6 months ago
@thnk4urself my bad man my bad for misunderstanding you, and I agree with your statement, it made perfect sense. If Fedor wants to get better he should move to the u.s and get a better training camp. My fault for misunderstanding you, and you are absolutely right. Your statement nailed it, and it made perfect sense.
coolasshole23 6 months ago
@coolasshole23 thanks no problem. Fedor's a hot topic, it's hard not to get into heated arguments over him. People like me that have been watching since he joined pride really hate it when people ignore the past 11 yrs just bcuz right now, he's way off the mark from what he used to be. I still think without a doubt he was everything he was cracked up to be and more but right now he has just lost the mental strength that made him the best. I think people listen to Dana White a bit too much.
thnk4urself 5 months ago
@thnk4urself Fedor did lose the Mental strength, and he is simply not hungry for it anymore. Back in Pride days Fedor was simply a destroyer. He fought Mirco Cro Cop in his prime, and defeated him, and defeated noguiera 3 times in his prime. However, Fedor needs to change his training routines, find a new management, and drop to 205. If that happens, I dont think anyone in the light heavyweight division can challenge him. But, he looked great against dan Henderson, the stop was a bit early.
coolasshole23 5 months ago
@coolasshole23 I agree, the stop was early & Herb based the stoppage based on how his body looked not his mental state. As strong as Fedor was mentally in his prime, he has lost that. He lost the hunger, he lost the sense of urgency and danger. He still has the skills and doesn't seem to have lost much as far as chin & he's technically not that old.I'd like to hope if he went to a high level gym like jacksons he maybe able to come back at 205 but I don't think he wants to & not sure if he can
thnk4urself 5 months ago
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@thnk4urself 1.5 just for throwing punches? thats too much for fedor anyway because he fucking sucks and is too much of pussy to fight overeem or brock lesnar let alone velasquez or JDS
conner1ize 6 months ago
this isn't a diss it's stating facts if the facts are a diss look at the bigger picture people.
IanJamesG 6 months ago
Those guys are singing Zuffa's song. Fuck that. Fedor was a bad motherfucker in his prime, his time has just passed.
Rexdog96 6 months ago
Fedor never said he was the best.
JasionJones 6 months ago
Fedor wasted his talent, he got the greens but he lost the fans
SenorCockblock 6 months ago
This is Bullshit, Fedor should have fought better competition, namely Randy Couture back in 2006 or 2007 and went from there. Nothing to take away from his accomplishments, but he missed out on making some big fights and big money. I hope this shit doesn't happen to Pacman and Mayweather, but Floyd such a puss, it ain't gonna happen. Fedor 3strikes, you're out. In my opinion he's fat, he should get in proper shape and fight at LHW, like the guy he lost to..Hendo.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon It's more of a prime thing then the fat he holds. Fedor is not explosive anymore. He use 2 b very in witching the gear's in transition like water he can't no more that's y everyone see's him willing to stand n exchange more then he use 2 with strikes against any 1. The wonder that is Dan is that he is a great wrestler slash CHIN N if he is losing a striking exchange he can always take the fight down avoiding any more damage.
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 Fedor needs to do something drastic, given UFC's latest Fox deal as well, it's going to be a long road to climb for him for the US premier promoter to want to sign him. Not joking here, UFC is in a position to put Fedor in the ultimate fighter reality show.....cause his latest losses really screwed him.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Fedor needs 2 do what best 4 him, his already the Ali of the world, his still dangerous but not anything like he use 2 b,UFC does not suit him + he own's a % of an empire, he has already had the greatest career of all time. U only want 2 c him lose 2 the new generation 2 discredit Fedor of all his past accomplishment. It's a prime thing buddy. N all u UFC American hate him. Look at Boxing HW it's been dead 4 yrs not bcuz of mma but bcuz USA is not the champion
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 The USA part is NOT true at all, most MMA fans are alot more cultured than your typical amercan. Boxing has just sucked in the USA, so let's save that for a different discussion, but pacquio is prob more well liked in USA vs. Mayweather. Fedor used to be a legend, it is a shame he didn't go with the UFC. The diehard fight fans still respect what he's done in the past, but his legacy will be damaged if he doesn't go for the UFC, who bought pride/strikeforce and now has Fox TV.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Know lol not really UFC was dying n going under, a reality show TUF saved it. At the same time pride was growing and i had real MMA fan such as I. I causal fan idiots UFC slash TUF saved UFC not the reall fans. Causal fans out number most in USA. But hey you got the cultured part right.
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 I agree with your points. Pride was awesome, i remember clearly first watching it and going, WTF, this is awesome, was like porn for the first time:) Are you russian?
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Know am Mexican And I grew up watching UFC and Pride and I think outside the box! I know a prime Nog or Fedor would take the strong battle to Cain and Win. I love MMA but I hate business nonsenses, and I hate patriotism, and am not know Nazi but i don't fallow the hype or crowd, it's good to be American but its not a fucking marriage i will question anything and everything!
wally316 6 months ago
I can't tell you 3 years ago, how many fight fans all thought fedor was the best. Now, what can we say after what has happened. The ultimate fighter show comment was harsh, but still, he should do what the best fighters today are doing, do real good camps, get a nutritionist, etc. he is not a true heavyweight, same with crocop. He is still pretty young, i don't think it's all about prime. Look, fedor can retire and will always be a name, but he will be forgotten unfotuntely.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon U C, u wish he will b forgotten unfortunately, this just tells me so much more who u are. Age is the factor n is the facts buddy, Were is Chuck in age Dana said his to old, Were is Matt hughs, Victor in he in his career right now? Not at the top gate keeper yes.
wally316 6 months ago
@wally316 You said it yourself, there are more casual fans than the ones who really know, from the pride days. I agree with you on the age thing, but I think he can make a comeback. My main thing is , I think Fedor should do steroids like some of the other LHW, and go for a run at 205 in the UFC. As far as the forgotten thing, UFC signing with fox will ensure he is forgotten. Ask how many young kids today, what they think of Fedor, prob won't be good. Power of the media, sad reality.
TheAngeltoDemon 6 months ago
@TheAngeltoDemon Who know if he doing Roids or not I can't say that he is, I wouldn't b surprised if any fighter did? there is ways to get past it an all, n u get caught or u don't.
wally316 6 months ago
Fedor is done...stick the fork in...mmm yummy mmmmm
DonMack279 6 months ago
stephen bonnar is a fucking can.
HipHopPhilosopher 6 months ago
Stephen Bonnar,"we need to give this guy some competition." Well we got it, & got exposed. Couldn't even get out of the first round of the tournament. Fedor is what I always knew he was, as one f those great PRIDE fighters of old. Wanderlei, Noguiera, Cro Cop, Hendo, etc. But he's definately not the greatest of all time, especially considering his gilded record of 2nd tier opponents after PRIDE & even during. Many people disliked this video, but they had it right. proof is in the pudding.
eggsandwich8885 6 months ago
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For those people who think Fedor is "overrated" because he lost 2 fights when he's 34 years old: 31 - 3 - 0 with only 7 decision victories and has fought wrestlers, sub specialists and KO artists throughout his entire career. Everyone gets older but he's still the best of all time.
Reckin007 6 months ago
Fedor is scared of losing his legacy therefor fights cans.
thetrooper42 7 months ago
@thetrooper42 uhh...is that why he's fighting one of the most decorated fighters in the history of the sport next?.....think before you type.
Reckin007 6 months ago
@Reckin007 My bad I should have said that Fedor's management is scared. And he's fighting a guy who lost to Welterweight, a Welterweight who barely pulled off a win against Kampman. Big deal.
thetrooper42 6 months ago
@thetrooper42 Why wouldn't he take this fight? He's fighting a well known fighter from the US so he's going to get noticed in the US market. Is he supposed to turn it down if they offer it to him? Dan is 40 years old and has been fighting far tougher competition than Fedor has. Fedor isn't training this hard because he thinks the fight will be easy.
Reckin007 6 months ago
@Reckin007 Didn't say he shouldn't take the fight. I'm just saying the man lost to a Welterweight so even with a win I'm not impressed. Fedor has lost his mojo. Just accept it.
thetrooper42 6 months ago
Fedor would own stephan bonnar and kenny florian.....
muayboran96 7 months ago
@muayboran96 different weight classes buddy! and bonnar would decisively win against fedor, fedor sucks ass!
cartmanluc 6 months ago
@cartmanluc stephan is light heavy... im sure if he didnt cut weight like fedor theyd be around the same weight and personally fedor would trash him, yeah hes lot to werdum,henderson, and silva but hey i dont really think that matters cuz stephan lost to mark coleman whom fedor beat like what twice already
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 Just like Henderson! Oh wait...
glock164 6 months ago
@glock164 I guess in my opinion and the majority of everyone elses, that fight got stopped way to soon.... but hey hendo one i didnt say he didnt
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 It's tough to call. Fedor fell face first. And the ref is there to protect the fighters, and enforce the rules, nothing else. When a fighter falls face first, typically on the way up, they will only eat bigger and heavier shots because of the way they have to position themselves. And with someone like Hendo on your back, if Fedor would have tried to stand up from that, 9/10 likely that he would have ended up eating bigger shots. Fedor has one hell of a legacy, but that is the past.
glock164 6 months ago
@glock164 Ehh you make a point i wont argue with that
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 he was fucking out for a moment!
IanJamesG 6 months ago
@IanJamesG not really no one saw that just his back was turned...... but hey believe what you will
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 he went limp.
IanJamesG 6 months ago
@IanJamesG Sure whatever makes you happy
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 Like he owned Hendo, right?
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
@PhenomAJ and u think if rematch comes to deal fedor will not own hendo?dont be a noob hendo was just lucky and this is not fedor in his prime he is empty
TheDomy24 6 months ago
@TheDomy24 "call people i don't know names from behind a keyboard". Classy.
Lucky eh? Fedor's one of the all time greats, but when you get layed out, you get layed out. Hendo BEAT him. Fedor may win the rematch, that's the nature of MMA, that's what makes it awesome.
But you saw with your own eyes what Hendo did, so stop sugar coating.
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
@PhenomAJ dude dont play smart?so what hendo beat him congrats that still doesnt mean fedor isnt greatest mma fighter of all time?ALI lost last matches,tyson did too,roy jones is losing etc does that mean they suck or something else?
TheDomy24 6 months ago
@TheDomy24 Whatever, you lost the argument due to blindside uppercut that layed you out. Herb Dean had no choice but to stop this argument.
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
@PhenomAJ -that was an asshole comment cause everyone knows fedor hasnt won any of his previous 3fights. one being by hendo. I never said he beat Hendo.Even though the fight in my opinion and many others got stopped early. But he would beat stephan and bonnar.
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 I'm not impressed by your comment.
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
@PhenomAJ LOL im not impressed... BY YOUR PERFORMANCE XD n idgaf
muayboran96 6 months ago
@muayboran96 Stephan "and" Bonnar?
Super8astard 6 months ago
@Super8astard lmao oh wow, type-o, good one
muayboran96 6 months ago
O-M-Gee!!! I wish people would understand that they are on (read this carefully) 'MMA LIVE' when asked a question they give an honest opinion. Do they think they can beat fedor? I really don't think they can. Does it matter? Are y'all really that sensitive when actual ufc fighters say something about fedor? Get off his dick!! He's not in his prime anymore
KinGofCoDeine 7 months ago
Fedor would beat the shit out of Kenny Florian and Stephan Bonnar the same night.
doddsalfa 7 months ago
@doddsalfa And he STILL wouldn't beat Antonia Silva.
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
Fedor has gotten his ass whipped twice in a row, dan henderson will put his ass down and retire him. Fedor used to be respected but he threw that all away.
nameisluke 7 months ago
@nameisluke Nonsense. Fedor's great, he's just past his prime.
PhenomAJ 6 months ago
both can suck Fedor's cock
Thebjj34 7 months ago
Kenny and Bonnar talking about Fedor..... LOL, just LOL.
illseed254 7 months ago
@illseed254 They are both more relevant than Fedor.
TopazSkillMauler 7 months ago
@TopazSkillMauler Ye, to American nuthuggers and Zuffa Zombies. To the rest of the Educated MMA fans, they are pathetic. Fedor is a legend in the sport, and anyone talking bad about him is most likely from UFC and tries to get on Dana's good side. If you ask ANY fighter outside of UFC, they ALL have tons of respect to Fedor.
Just sitt your faggot ass down, try get a girl instead. Oh right, you dont like girls.. sorry.
illseed254 7 months ago
@illseed254 Nice try, I'm marred. Is it really right to get angry. I thought I was the nuthugger but you turned things around.
TopazSkillMauler 7 months ago
lol, they are ones to talk. bonnar hasn't been shit since TUF 1 and Kenny changes weight so many times, he couldn't win if he loaded his gloves.
GreatestCreation909 7 months ago
And Fedor would fuck both of them up.
howismypet 7 months ago
@howismypet Kenny would take Fedor at this point in time
AlcoholicSemenStain 7 months ago
@AlcoholicSemenStain Then you woke up.
howismypet 7 months ago
@howismypet What?
AlcoholicSemenStain 7 months ago
Nobody gives a shit about Kenny Florian, or Stephan Bonnar, in 35 fights has Fedor ever been knocked out? No, he's only been submitted once, Fedor is a hero to all mma fans, fighters have nothing but respect for him, shut the hell up
jasonpeak82 7 months ago
@jasonpeak82 Fedor needs to hang it up.
AlcoholicSemenStain 7 months ago
Answer this, has Fedor ever been knocked out? Fedor tapped out once in 35 fights, both losses were doctor stoppages, Fedor has got a lot more to offer, plus he's fighting another legend in Dan Henderson, rated as high as the #2 light heavyweight in the world, your full of crap if u think he should hang em up, he's got a big fight this saturday, what r ur plans besides just staying home, Go Fedor!.
jasonpeak82 7 months ago
@jasonpeak82 fedor got merked by dan henderson LMAO FEDOR BUM
ceaser8999 6 months ago
@ceaser8999 fedor is not a bum he is out of his prime
TheDubeo 6 months ago
You must not be a mma fan, It would be an honor to lose to a guy like Dangerous Dan, some call him hollywood hendo, Dangerous Dan, and most recently H Bomb, since your such an idiot, I will explain H stands for hydrogen bomb, nuclear weapons, Hendo is a legend, Fedor vs, Hendo was a fight with both fighters having close to 30 fights, and neither fedor or hendo had never been knocked out, those numbers dont lie boy.
jasonpeak82 5 months ago
these guys will never have fans saying there the best cause they aint shit to fedor
lee1990lee 7 months ago
I think all these criticisms shouldn't be leveled at Fedor himself so much, he's always said that he'll fight who ever gets put in front of him. It's his management who have treated him like the golden egg he is and have ferociously protected his "aura", which includes booking mismatches. It's sad but it is what it is. He was still (essentially) undefeated for 30 fights and some of those were very, very legit opponents.
bvanlier 7 months ago
Nigger.
KyockLee123 7 months ago