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  • try itanimulli.ca

  • can someon add spanish subtitles? thanks!

  • Since this useless meeting, Illuminati cold bloody killed Gadafi and his 150000 people, stole their Gold, now they trying destroy Syria, only God may can stop this madness

  • @Arianiuss

    dont for get norway

  • Since the time when west became powerful , world never seen real peace

  • He says whatever he thinks the interviewer wants to hear. He's making Ben nervous

  • I think Leo is a little bipolar. I've just watched everything on youtube of his.I've heard him say "kill all the sheeple, and I am Jesus, and you have to trust in me to survive". WTF?

  • Let us pray that all is true... and that is not just a "presentation!" I pray it is! I am so sick of our corrupt rulers. I am so tired of death, destruction and mediocrity

  • @madelena1234 i have posted a free energy like simple schematic to use magnets in the facebook david fan page. I am trying to help the world also, let us all join in this

  • What a brave souls Leo and Benjamin to come out with such message! Love and peace

  • ok I really do want to know how to become an scholar of all this knowledge... please someone can initiate me?

  • Meet the new boss.

  • Great architect of the universe !? That is SATAN , not God, so obviously this suckers are a Luciferians

  • @mauricestrong Jehova was a vengeful extraterrestial. I don't think he will be fixing anything here. He is part of the reason we are in this mess. I think you are underestimating the roles of the beings in the bible. The only people who can fix this mess is US. We need to take responsbility for ourselves.

  • Zagami is a total fake,phony and fraud. Ben should never have gotten involved with that P2 rat-fink scumbag.

  • I think these guys are telling the partial truths, but Jehovah will be the one who fixes things . Jesus will return with a vengance to clean house once armegeddon starts so pick your side . Alot of people are gonna die and the war criminals like Bush and cheany should be the first to go. There will never be a completed new world order,maybe for a while,but there time will be short. Satan and his demons and evil will be cast into the abiss for one thousand years and then they will be destroyed.

  • Very funny interaction between the two. A good illustration of how difficult it is to come together on something like this. But we must try to include ALL who are willing to operate according to the Golden Rule, and learn tolerance for others...even motor mouths like Leo Zagami.

  • chaos bring s one thing and that is chaos, and a big fucking mess lol

  • Their Motto is Chaos brings Change...I have to believe Ben speaks the truth, and has the protection of Triads, who believe that the SARS was introduced to attack only Asians.

  • bullshit!! >.<

  • When we are born we are put on the N.Y. stock exchange as chattel. Our names are In capital letters making us a Corperation Our Birth certificate numbers are put on the dollar bills. Look it up! Look up accepted for value. It is a secret trust that pays for our debt. Find out what is behind it. We have been Hijack. America is a corperation. They are not working under common law unless you demand it.

  • When we are born we are put on the N.Y. stock exchange as chattel. Our names are In capital letters making us a Corperation Our Birth certificate numbers are put on the dollar bills. Look it up! Look up accepted for value. It is a secret trust that pays for our debt. Find out what is behind it. We have been Hijack. America is a corperation. They are not working under common law unless you demand it.

  • A Rattlesnake , By Any Other Name , Is Still a Rattlesnake

  • OK ! I Know what it sounds like .... but I'd be hesitant with people tied to the triads or other Mafia organizations.... Don't ya think?, Crappy, I mean Crafty! I bet you buy the first of anything you see? And you wished you didn't later! And don't follow your friend off that cliff! You sound like a sucker!!! Oh!, and those beans aren't magic!!

  • 4:24 understand the great architect of the universe, this is a free mason belief, the G in the middle, the great architect is NIMROD , basically NWO

  • THE PLANET DOESNT NEED HELP,IS WELL BALANCED,,THEY NEED HELP TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO DECEIVE US!!! WE JUST NEED TO UNITE AND LOVE EACH OTHER,,THAT FUCKING LEO BULLSHIT ONE DAY IS A WISTLE BLOWER TODAY IS A MEDIATOR FOR THE ILLUMINATI TOMORROW HE IS GOING TO ASK TO SUCK MY DICK,,AND THE FUCKING COKEHEAD FULFORD CANT HIDE IT ANYMORE,,THESE HOW WE DO IT IN THE WEST,FUCK U BOTH!FUCK THE ILLUMINATI,FUCK BUSH,ROTHSCHILDS.ROCKEFELLERS.­MORGANS FUK U TOO!NOT AFRAID TO DIE!ONLY GOD WILL DECIDE MY FAIT!!

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  • well what is taken so long then u only chat shit like everyone else.

  • i do believe that also the illuminati are devised and that those 2 guys are not evil.

  • These guys are evil,involved in Illuminati. They talk some truth then they say to us that all religions must come together. They wanna build an "divine: world order run by Satan. 

  • @scarry07 no there not.. We are all ONE... We have to unite as a planet. You don't understand the nature of the universe. The Illuminati do and some cultures do but Americans do NOT. Mostly because the Illuminati has used symbols and numbers to control the minds of the American people. Even the US dollar bill is a Talisman that has sacred geometrical partners on it that effect the human sub consciousness.

  • is this some kind of joke ? It is not amusing or entertaining.

  • LOL look at these 2 clowns , fake

  • the dumb ass on the right is on LSD and can't stop moving his fucking skeleton hands like a fairy wand

  • These two deadbeats have demon possessions. They admitted to being connected with the Illuminati which have been proven to be involved with pagan rituals, and literally worshiping Satan. You guys believe a men who interact with demonic entities? Satan is the ultimate deceiver, and will bring death & destruction to us all!!!!

  • The New World Order will happen by consent, or by force. These pieces of shits are trying to mold your minds into accepting the New World Order, and you fucking sheople are actually falling for it.....my God...I'm extremely troubled right now. Total world domination, and you lemmings are actually going to let this happen? Our freedoms pawned off, and at what cost? Freedom. All the men who died to keep the U.S.A. in existence, but in vein. Fuck Modern America!! fuck you all.

  • Leo has style!

  • I like this guy, especially when he looks around after saying flowery people, go for it Fullford !!!

  • I like this guy, especially when he says flowery talk !! thewakeup.co.uk

  • it is strange how ETs have been called Greys not black or white but a balance between the two not light or dark Balance 73 73 73 The masons are scared to death they know good people are waking up and can see the mess they have made of Earth.

  • This is an attempt to save themselves.Nothing is going to forgive evil or save it.Evil cannot change into good,The creator of this planet and also our bodies is the evil god Yaldaboath,that is the result of the great celestrel error,that theTrue Creator God cast out.This evil god created matter from the spiritual realm,the big bang,and so created the universe ,we as spirit beings became trapped in bodies when He created Adam..We do not die,and need not fear,everything must go,to bring in spirit.

  • Let me get this straight. Instead of fighting off the globalists so that the people can be people, they ARE globalists and want to fight the NWO with their own... NWO? Twisted huh? These guys are free-masons.

  • @TimothyJay1 No, the freemasons work with the illuminati

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  • @TimothyJay1 if you understood the concept of the architect like god, you wouldn't think free-masonry is such a bad thing. I'm developing free energy with a best friend who happens to be free-mason.

    The world isn't definable through titles alone.... I understand your paranoia, to some degree i have it too!. But trusting nothing ill end us all in division also. Think about it, I see your rage as passion so I respect you dearly

  • @TimothyJay1 Well,globalism is a two way street bro.We can all live free in a new (better) world with all the great things and vice-versa.

  • Wel id like to believe this, but we have a serious financial crisis that is coming, no matter what. Food prices will skyrocket and people will starve. This is a global problem and I think 3-4 billion will still die. It just wont be from a virus or neutron bomb.

  • Either Fulford is being threatened (which seems to be the situation because he is very nervous) or they are working together to deceive us.

  • Unfortunately, this great 'cleaning up' of their organization was planned hundreds of years ago. First step- foment chaos and gain control. Next step- create an intolerantly tolerant world religion and get people "involved" in the world governing process, thereby legitimizing their power. This isn't the solution- it's the sequel. This is the plan whether or not this video is legit- it's what they're actually going to do. We must define specific standards in banking and faith to confront this.

  • Also, the U.S. is bombing Libya. Well, that means that things have not changed. Fulford claimed that this agreement would end war. It has not.

  • Perhaps Fulford is a long-standing "Illuminati" member himself. Why? I would have no idea.  But, he has now become suspicious.

  • @schism4291

    he was suspicious from day 1, lol what are talking about

  • Too bad that this is bogus. Yes, there are tons of white supremacists, all over the world, who want to wipe out non-white people. But Fulford blew it on the Fed prophecy. So, most of what he's saying cannot be believed.

  • these guys are nuts

  • I've heard quite a few different stories from Leo Zagami. Check out some of his older vids. I think he might be off his rocker.

  • What is going on? I thought i had at least a notion about whast was going on.

  • The Prince of Darkness or whoever he is appears to be engaged in some spin / double-speak: trust us, forget atrocities like 9/11 & our plans for genocide & destruction of human race, we are turning over a new leaf...that was a couple of years ago, since then the 'elite' (low-life) have stepped up their game big time. However well-intentioned aims are they need to be backed up with achievable objectives. Great wealth can achieve wonderful things for humanity or, in the wrong hands, great evil

  • HAHAHA! As soon as I seen that idiot, Leo Zagami, I switched this video off!

  • @RadioFlyffer you seem to know him personaly

  • fulford is a blow head.

  • @TheUnknownGrower did you blow his head ?

  • In respect of the Japanese earthquake,do I assume the "west" has disregarded the ultimatum put forward in 2009 by Ben Fulfords "Ninja consortium" ?.

    If this is the case,trouble should strt to raise it's ugly head any time soon !!!.

    Has Ben Fulford released a statement in the last few days ?.

  • @StructuredDRIVING yes tonight check it out

  • @StructuredDRIVING he was on rense two days ago

  • what is this bull leo is talking about a one world religion, by uniteing all religiouns

  • whats lol

  • The Italian guy sounds like that mob boss in the movie "Prizzi's Honor".

  • Can someone please explain to me what people mean when they say "wake up" If I already understand that everything the media tells me is a lie, that politics is basically a sham for global power games, and that shadowy clandestine meetings are happening all around the world to plot world events...then what does it mean to "wake up" Basically, you acknowledge all that stuff and then search for more youtube videos to learn about their "plan"

    It's mental masturbation and this is one big circle jerk

  • @FreethinkingFun How about starting with not making retarded comments like this. Obviously a lot of people still believe the news channels and are oblivious to whats really been going on. So why don't you wake up those people around you by maybe explaining to them about it?

  • @chiesuto Great so then me and 10 other people can watch youtube videos. You have no actual plan. "waking people up" doesn't mean anything. I know that conspiracy circles get easily dismissed and I am not coming at things from that angle. I have shared this stuff with friends. All it takes is that they tell two people, and then they tell two people and so on and so on and so on. RIght? That's how we defeat "them!" Ya, keep up the honest and active resistance!!

  • @FreethinkingFun Powerless internet geek like yourself can't do anything to change the world, but people with key government jobs can. That's why information like this is circulated to raise awareness so everybody is informed. You're a dumb piece of shit so don't tell me about you're circle jerking hobby, you sick fuck. Go watch some gay porn.

  • @chiesuto you mean "powerless internet geeks like ourselves" & I was merely implying that watching endless "revealing" youtube videos is the equivalent of circle jerking, everyone feels good but not a whole lot is actually getting done (or some I'm told)...I don't enjoy gay porn, but the negative connotations you attach to it reveals your intolerance, nice! Good luck "informing" people in "key gov't position's" Either they already know this, or they dont care and either way they are right

  • lolololol Leo is trying to push the Grand Architect of the Universe on to everyone. That is, the Freemason's god. Shove it dude.

  • @j00ztube

    yep Saturn is the G

  • It's a wonderful thought but I see the policy's still the same secret government loss of freedom constitutional rights out of control white house that takes there orders trust CIA and mi6? And by the way I just watched a video where this guy thinks he's Jesus

  • YOUR ALLIANCE BEN ?? WITH LEO ?? LOOOOL ! FUCK YOU BEN !

  • just spending your time, sharing a video with this asshole of Leo, is discrediting you, Ben ! Sorry.. I lost my confidence in you now !

  • Oh God.. People, please watch this SOB of Zagami.. he is sucjh a satanist.; he is lying. he just doesn't care about us ! he is shit ! fuck you Leo !!! FUCK YOU !! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE BASTARD !! you faggot !!

  • Why are you doing this Ben..? look at you, everyone is seying that you are ashamed to be in this video and share you're time with this fucking bastard !!!

  • knights of malta - they make good pastizzis

  • Benjamin Fulford is a good guy IMO, but I'm afraid he's being played here....

  • Saying that you are going to do something to stop Satanic designs of power and ritual sacrafice is just the same as saying you are not going to do anything about it. This is a total non-event.

  • Attention:  The TRUTH IS: SATAN is the key figure behind the Satanists, Illuminatti, Secret Societies, The Bilderbergs, The Rothschild's, The Rockefellers, The Pope, and ALL who follow and believe in them that they mean no harm to humanity. This Leo Zagami, is a deceitful human being. I don't trust him. I commend Benjamin Fulford, for what he's trying to do, but he's got to understand that this is not a perfect world. (NOT YET.)

  • The italian guy makes me nervous

  • w t f is this silly c..t for real brilliant we can all go back to sleep now fuckin al picinos got it sorted youhard bastard lol

  • Two daisy's.

  • haha glad he said his not for the NWO for a moment I thought these two were trying to trick us. Ben Fulford doesn't trust this guy look at 1:46

    hahaha too much conflict in the message Leo is a way down in the food chain he knows nothing

  • @READMORGAN 1:53 is more telling lol

  • There is a very interesting dynamic at play here

  • tick tock, these guys seem under pressure...a little anxious. all the little factions got greedy and fucked things up to monstrous proportions. having been abusing the mother continent (africa) for thousands of years. now you see the light huh? you want change, and the betterment of mankind. you will be the judge and jury of your own sins as u face the mirror, meanwhile...the masses will regain a knowledge of self, and heal their own wounds...

  • I see a lot of sheeps here baahhhing on something they don't fully understand through their ignorance. Please don't comment at all if you don't care or don't know what is happening. Serious videos from serious people deserve serious comments.

  • @gamermostafa the only change it will make is if you sheeps wake the fuck up and start "working together" . White and black, if you don't buy in the white, then black you go. Two ways, anything between is just ignorance and global mass media dumb down.

  • It's nice to see Father Guido Sarducci employed after leaving Saturday Night Live all those years ago

  • 0:54 borat is making the horn signs with his right hand as he says a true statement!!LOL...Are they for real???

  • It's funny how i can't seem to determine whether or not this is a real statement with no lies being told or complete bullshit. Benjamin's eye's and hand movements are hard to read as good or bad.

  • David Icke, G. E. Griffin, Bill Hicks, Rafael Correa, Russia Today, Paul Craig Roberts, Carol Rosin, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, We Are Change, Luke Rudkowski.

  • Completely boring.

  • What the hell. Three out of the last four comments i've made have been refused. It seems like every time I want to say something real, I get comment pendig. Which means you have just been censored. So much for freedom of speech.

  • What the fuck is that?

    They are training their acting abilities?

  • Something's Not right This Has Got Deception All Over It!

  • @rocknhdsocal it doesn't have deception it has truth. That's why you are drawn to it. It's about grasping peace for everyone. It's about giving humans there free will again. Giving the power back to the people. It's very simple. They pretty much want to make a new America over the whole planet.

    (btw.. just so you know... the united states OF America is not America. America never had presidents. Only companies have presidents. We have been hijacked and you were born into it.

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  • It's just recenctly been stated that the troops will come home from Iraq and Afghanistan no later than 2014, so this is bullshit.

    It all sounds good what they are saying but nothing has changed at all since these two supposedly joined forces!

  • @Ecurrie84 Is that how long it's going to take to build the oil pipeline?

  • @mrcoolwhip1 It probably is yes, good call!

  • Asatoma Sad Gamaya

    Tamasoma Jyotir Gamaya

    Mrityorma Amritan Gamaya

    - OM - Shanti, shanti, shanti.

    Take me from the unreal to the real

    Take me from darkness to light

    Take me from death to immortality

    - OM - Peace, peace, peace.

  • I agree and support both of you with most aspects of your quest. Do not forget sovereignty as an individual, people, state or country. As I've studied world history time and time again, I have realized that no world wars by modern standards have existed since the beginning of mankind WITHOUT the influence of spiritually evil intent and social engineering.

    Again, I commend the both of you. I'd like to be engaged at a level of support. You are welcome to contact me at : Standsresolute@gmail.com

  • Although we must start with reason and enlightenment, we must first be spiritual to understand humanity and our relationship to the God of the universe first.

    2. I am extremely doubtful that the dark and subversive powers in certain societies are willing to give up any degree of power. Study historical records and more importantly, holy records. The evil ones WILL NOT LET GO OF THEIR GOALS. However, "WE THE PEOPLE" can win if we learn, promote and stand for good humanity based principles...

  • Benjamin and Leo - unlike most of your critics here, I support the premise and reasoning behind your goals, however, two major draw backs;

    1. The hope of appeasing certain powers on Earth (through societies) is singularly a spiritual war between good and evil, light and darkness. Reason must take second stage to the argument about what's best for humanity. I'm a student of Natural Law philosophy and the principles of nature as created by the Great Architect (God) and the golden rule... cont'd

  • i have seen leo zagami proclaim himself as jesus, this video is bullcrap.

  • I LOVE you guys! Blessings & Light for your courage & authenticity!

  • I sincerely hope the world can see this clip. It is of the very upmost importance. I PRAY that people listen to this and understand these two people are two of the most important messengers we have at this time. Support this Please.

  • These two guys found the keys to the Crazy Pill Cupboard. LOL

  • And also, if the Illuminati is all but destroyed and have no more power, why isn't this on every TV station right now? This is a crock of shit.

  • @fakeham because they own the Media Moron this coming together shit is just propaganda to convince people bout haing a new world order they will come with good intentions at first but it will turn to hell once the cattle are locked in

  • @eliasisnemesis

    Do you usually call people who agree with you morons?

  • How convenient that they still want a NWO...trying to make it look like a good thing now...

  • Yadda Yadda, and then what? No one in the upper echelon will let go of power, resources or money. So what should the catholic / satanic church or some Maltese cross crusaders help anything. The guys play into the hands of benevolent dictatorship via the UN. Aldous Huxley's pet dogs talking about a bright new world. LOL. Which authority does Fulford have anyways?

  • Leo was never an Illuminati. He's got a degree in History and Economics from some no name university in Italy. He is a band wagon jumper. He was a writer for a little Italian newspaper and then he wanted to get famous cause he couldn't play soccer, he wasn't pretty enough to make music and he wasn't connected enough to make it in politics. Fulford is a butthead straight up.

  • If you Put Gold under pigs legs, pig will never understand the Value.

    These Guys are not Laying. Free Energi Excisit. Search the youtube for Turkish man who presented his "FREE ENERGI MAGNETIC MACHINE " in German and Turkish universities..... Wake up. Think off what a world we could have if this machine was ..........out when it was made the first time !!?

  • If Leo wasn't a disinfo agent, his brains would have been blown out of his skull a long time ago. These guys are idiots trying to tell us that it's all over and not to worry about the powers that be, as if the CIA and all those groups they metioned had a majority of good people in them with mankinds best interest, bullshit I tell you!

  • "When the love of power is overcome by the power of love, the world will know peace".... so beyond all this bla bla bla we would like to see a real humble attitude and maybe it would be very nice if the freemasons and the illuminati would stay home and practice the yama and niyama.... and after that to come in front of us as servants not as rulers...

  • Starting from 4:58 for a bit is just one example of his body language. Thats the kind of thing to avoid when your on TV. Since the people arent very receptive with these kind of messages shouldnt look like home made kind of video my step brother could have done. (sry for my english this isnt my first language)

  • Benjamin Fix the way you sit and fix ur Body language. I love the message you are sending i dont want to be mean but only trowing tips for futur videos.

  • @Quivna Ha Ha You wouldn't be talking about 4:58 by any chance would you?

  • WE THE PEOPLE ARE FREE, they thought we where dum, we just dint care UNTIL NOW.

  • sounds like they want to sell us freemasonry as the global religion - shove it.

  • @WTU208 no leo zagami is against freemasonry he is an ex-freemason

  • @tanrat7 don't you get it . The illuminati are the satanists.'the great architect of the universe' - He is not Lucifer like these people believe and are trying to soft sell you.

  • @WTU208 I thought freemasonry was part of the illuminati

  • @tanrat7 higher degrees are.

  • "... the great architect" LOL matrix reloaded sucked

  • toni montana lässt grüßen!

  • It is definitely time for change. All this time, the so called "Elite" have been so juvenile and petty with such way of life. We are still yet so primitive and have such long ways to go to become even so close to civilized as much as we claim to be.

    It is pathetic how mankind has claimed to be so "evolved" and "intelligent" all this time and yet, we have no clue of our true potential as human beings and thereafter.

  • It is definitely time for change. All this time, the so called "Elite" have been so juvenile and petty with such way of life. We are still yet so primitive and have such long ways to go to become even so close to civilized as much as we claim to be.

    It is pathetic how mankind has claimed to be so "evolved" and "intelligent" all this time and yet, we have no clue of our true potential as human beings and thereafter.

  • It is definitely time for change. All this time, the so called "Elite" have been so juvenile and petty with such way of life. We are still yet so primitive and have such long ways to go to become even so close to civilized as much as we claim to be.

    It is pathetic how mankind has claimed to be so "evolved" and "intelligent" all this time and yet, we have no clue of our true potential as human beings and thereafter.

  • Hahaha! Funny dialog.. I guess it was far from what Fulford expected to be like. You could see he's not satisfied and more over bored by stories that the italian mister was saying... The italian guy obviously was speaking flowers and nothing precisely..His aim as I see was only to make others believe that illuminati and massons are actually good..and "everybody bring together" and so on. He didn;t know even what to say exactly..

  • i dont like the goon on the right. he erks me out.

  • I don't know either one of you two. but "if" what you say is true. do me one favor, (be real men and keep your word). like you say, time for actions not fluff

  • What a lot of shit...zagami is the king of BS on youtube

  • 2 dumb clowns, this is just sad

  • Criminal has to be eliminated? When God said he would not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if only 10 good people could be found...and they could not, there were not laws written to define the crimes?

    So, please write the real criminal laws. No secrets, like the secret meetings where people were told to lie to their own families. Lodge and Men's Clubs and Military included. No gay Pope. No Bohemian Grove. No church with secrets or obviously they are competing. Jail to ritual sacrificers and cannibals

  • Look, that's fine, fix our stain on the World, very happy with that.

    But I get the feeling I'll still be living, to work, so that I can sustain myself & my family, just so we can keep living to keep working.

    When do I get to wake up & say, with dignity," There's always food, there's always energy supplied, there's always cloths, their's alway shelter, etc." without it coming at a price, whether that be physical, psychological or environmental?

  • fulford is another jones wannabe put in place to mislead internet truth seekers. jones states hes not an anarchist but he obviously wants chaos to bring down the government with his super duper megaphone. if that ever happens the real criminals would take over. he is the antichrist(joking).

  • fulford for sure has been sucking on the devils glass dick dude is tweeked out zagami is on methadone and enjoys himself

  • And you thought Clinton was sober and clean when you were watching him, right? A fine example of mass mind control! It really worked on you.

  • your hopefully right watch project camelot interview with ben, explains alot

  • babymalai, Leo Zagami was in the P2 Loggia...he has documents that proves it...he also got threatened & punished by the illuminati.

    Salute

  • This pair of comedians deserve Oscars!

  • yeah hollywood should make a movie starring woody harrelson as fulford :)

  • Wow you are one Hollywood mind controlled robot, producing biochemical of anger and criticism. If they bother you so much, stop watching them. Don't you have all the Hollywood movies to catch up on?

  • @chosop25 no i am not even watching most of the hollywood because it's boring... therefore i am suggesting they make a movie about this stuff with the great woody harrelson...

  • @chosop25 producing anger? you should look at tv & cinema from my country... that crap is producing anger...

    and criticism? no i am not even near to "criticise" the conspiracy comments bullshit... if you like profound (serious, non-entertaing) info regarding this whole subject take a loot at "conspiracyphobia..." by Michael Parenti and "The JFK Assassination and the Gangster Nature of the State" also by Michael Parenti.

  • Calling something 'bullshit' is not criticism? I've looked at the other side of the argument but it wasn't that convincing. Well, if you don't like hollywood movies and this kind of info, find something better to do in life, like learn a new language or take salsa or tango lessons.

  • @getjiggy21 lol

  • If you guys listen, Leo Zagami knows the truth behiind locked doors and knows the illuminati plans but the other guy doesnt think the freemasons and the secrets should be but they will not stop now, the tradition is thousands of years old and it may be needed, for most man dont know the true secrets from the ancient babalonians and egyptians. The lead and we follow for a reason obviously, I wish we all knew what they did. Maybe we couldnt handle the truth idk...

    "O"

  • they lead?

    even zagami says they are bankers and weapon dealers making profit... the only thing they "control" is to prevent a decent ecological hemp economy other than disgusting rituals they don't lead shit... there is more anarchy, chaos and lawlessness you can think of - nobody is in charge of nothing - and you all will realise when things fall apart :) ROFL

  • just, plain, bizarre. I can only imagine they've both forgotten to take thier meds!

  • i am not really sure what it is with fulford... cocaine or meth? suggestions, anyone?

  • @qnbs7 It seems to be some kind of mental issue, not able to be cured. Maybe drugs could lessen the paranoia and the savior complex mentality. Maybe not! Probably he will be in a funny farm next year.