Sure! preserved! Whatever! You may want to read Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" Book And then the delusion of the Koran been a preserved, unchanged etc etc book will be refuted and clarifyed! Salam!
ur explantion is very convincing of the controversy but then the non believer will never believe even if u proof him that prophet muhammad pbuh was for real a prophet
Dear pamuk, obviously we cannot communicate at the same level, you aren't able to question, to ponder and not even to analyze the topics we are talking about... you are just been a parrot memorizing answers and not really knowing how to bringh forward arguments... and this shows me that your education level is not really good... don't want to hurt your feelings but this is sadly the impresion I got!
@pamuk... sorry, but I don't have much time to teach you definitions you will have to go to a library & inform your self! [slave, rape, puberty, adolescence etc] Stop reading just the Q'ran & try reading good books like dictionaries...
- The possesion of human beens goes against morals & ethics, you can't possess a human been like you possess a car!
So for sure your sister will be more than glad to sleep with the guy that just kill you & made her a slave... SURE! You don't seem to rationalize!
@pamuk Please, that is non sense! slaves are human beens like you and me forced to become property of mean people!! To feed them is not a kind act but a obligation!
Maids carry out a task & get pay for it, have their own homes, are freel DO NOT MISTAKE SERVICE WITH FORCED LABOR AND PRIVATION OF FREEDOM!! I urge you to read the meaning of both!
1. how does people become slaves?centainly not freely! & would you really sleep willingly with a man that just killed your family, husband etc? I don't think so! You will rather die! And if this happend, it is because you were raped no doubt!
2. Let me tell you that becoming your menses does not mke of you a women, but prepairs your body to become one (18-20 y.) & this for sure not when you are 9 years old, at 9 you are STILL A CHILD, then & today!
3. Fornication: sexual intercourse between unmarried people. Well, there you have it, Mo. didn't married all the slaves he sleep with, did he?
4. You can free slaves, just if you have some & if this is the case, you are already going against ethics. A man of God will know that to have slaves goes against GOD's principles!
5. There is no justification for doing wrong, not even for the so called prophets,believers (from any religion), by doing so you agree with what they did!!
1. I am not a christian. Never the less Jesus never owned slaves. And even if he did its stupid for you to justify your "prophets" misdeeds by saying other people did it too. What if other people ate pork? Should moe have done that too? You see, that argument is stupid. On freeing slaves, have you ever heard of the abolitionist movement? You might want to look that up.
You people praise the fact that moe was able to rise above some of the barbaric practices of the pagan arabs like infanticide. If he was the enlightened prophet you laughably claim he was, why wasn't he able to see that fucking children is WRONG! But no, he's more concerned about condemning consentual acts between adults like homosexuality and inter religious marriage and things like eating ham.
It doesn't change the FACT that your "prophet" had sex with children, owned slaves, raped female slaves, made up koranic verses that allowed him, and him alone to have sex with women he wasn't married to, to have as many wives as he wanted while everyone else was limited to 4 and his wives couldn't remarry after he died. Oh, not to mention how he stole the wife of his adopted son.
1st, tyvm! 2nd, your explaination was amazing and I don't think that you can make it any better. Islam needs people like you sis! People who knows how to defend Islam from the ignorant attacks...
Thank you again, and I hope if you continue this. May Allah be with you!
How do we know the brain of the transsexual is female in the sense a genetic girl's brain is female. Maybe transsexuals experience their womenhood in a way unlike genetic girls. These are all valid questions. Also male bodies are more prone to certain diseases, how does that affect the female brain. I know you can't answer all these questions. It would take a few specialist with PHD's to fully explain. I want to learn though, I don't want to hate something without understanding it.
Your body produces hormones a female body does not, I wonder...Also how could you test for you it? Beyond taking a genetic girl's brain and transplanting it into a male body and observe the changes in her. Would she feel the same? would she lose some of her feminine mind? Also exactly how feminine is a transsexuals brain? Is it more female than a genetic girls? Is it less female than a genetic girl's? As the transsexual ages how does the male aging body affect the female brain.
I have a question concerning pakistani culture. My husband is pakistani and a muslim. When his male friend comes over they sleep together in the same bed. From a western view point it's considered gay for two grown men to share the same bed.
Is my Husband secretly gay or is this normal in the pakistani culture?
Thank you so much for helping me with this problem.
Confused? Karmatic with the IQ of 134 I think your only book smart. You lack the intelligence of politicians.
Karmatic remember I am only one person, one person over the internet who is telling you your not a real women. There are billions of people who think your not a real women. How can you fight billions? Transsexuals are not real women, period. Face reality
I am confused at the stupidity of your question. Two men sleeping in a bed is an action and could never dictate sexuality. Sexuality assumes an attraction. To assume so is seriously misinformed. Also to claim something like that is the western view is untrue as well.
It may be prevalent but not all encompassing. I have zero reason to be accommodating. I therefore lack nothing. Your reality is again opinion. Nothing is going to make it factual. "Real" in and of itself is subjective.
Billions of people encompass the "average" which historically has never been the most efficient group of people anyways. Also just as many people if not more DO in fact consider me a real woman. I also don't view this as a fight. To do so is very primitive.
Oh my God, I dare you to walk into any high school and tell everyone your a real women. Let them tell you what kind of "women" you are. Seriously I think that's the only way your going to face reality.
Yes because as we know high school students are always correct and aren't AT ALL insecure or ready and willing to single out anybody for anything. At least I can see where you get your logic from...a high school level classroom.
This is what I'm talking about when I ment your only book smart. High School kids have not yet learned to refine and polish their social skills. They won't hold back from the truth. Adults have learned you can't always speak what's on your mind.
So an ignorant population of people is supposed to matter somehow? LOL. Why would that be in the least bit valid? You know your awfully concerned with what other's think. I understand in Asian cultures "saving face" is very important but geez.
Many things have been considered impossible and more and more people daily are accepting transgendered people as women... especially considering that we now have a genetic link to gender identity disorder. Back 30 years ago I could have made the same statement about homosexuality and today people ARE accepting them.
No their not Karmatic. Canada voted against giving gays the same rights as straight couples. Ok lets go with this flow of logic. Lets say all 6 billion people on earth agreed that transsexuals are real women. That still does not make it true. You still have a male body and a female mind. Lets reverse that lets say all 6 billion people said your not a real women. What they think is not worth a damn to
OK for ONCE we agree on something. Regardless of other's opinions it doesn't prove or disprove anything.
Statistically as the generations pass people are becoming more supportive of homosexuality and transsexuality. That is a true statement. A vote doesn't matter...what matters is the increase in support. My problem with your opinion is NOT that you see me as real or not, but your insistence that I identify as a transsexual. See what I mean? I should be able to identify as I wish.
Mmm you got me there. I do believe in freedom of choice, very very very strongly believe in freedom of choice. I have no right to force you to identify as transsexual. Damn you found my weakness. I believe people should always have the freedom to choose. ohhh that is what bothered me the most. If a transsexual wants to call herself a women that's fine but to force other people to call her a women that I disagree with.
Mmm I do believe mentally and emotionally your a women. I do believe your thought processes are like a women, I believe you behave like a women, I believe you absorb information like a women, I believe your soul is that of a women.
But I wonder and I'm no doctor how does living in a male body affect your female brain? I mean your organs, your tissues are all male and yet your brain is hardwired to be female. Does living in that male body somehow make that female brain of yours more masculine?
is not for you to debate this .. without fikah let this things for olamae al omat and stop make fitna you??!! LMartella..mouslim women latkhada3 bel kaweel and make sexy signes with her eyes and face and play sexy movies go learn if you are realy mouslim and if you are really loking for troughts
We see in our time , that females differ in their time of maturity. Being mature is not only sexual parts but also the awareness and mental development. This so clear thing not among males but among females as well.
There is no fasting age for male and female? The requirement is puberty? It is the same requirement for the marriage? Procreation,obligations,compassion, halal relationship & family life is the primary purpose & requirement of marriage.
The narrations that contradict Hisham's have multiple narrators & sources that tally. Narration from Hisham, though from more than source, but only reported by him?
Does Quran mention waiting period as the requirement for a female to be rewed? Does the waiting period not apply to female who has a regular cycles? Is it not common sense and does not to relate to a female who does not have regular cycle?
Also, has Allah not mentioned prophet s.a.a.s as the walking Quran? He conformed to the Quran and set and example.
Also,Hisham has reported from Iraq? Was he known to be forgetful? Also, are his narrations from one source or multiple sources? How about the other narrations that contradict Hisham? If you ask factual questions like this, it is easy to come to a conclusion.
Also, did somebody object to prophet's wedding? Who proposed Ayesha r to the prophet?
What does Quran say about the waiting period for a female to be wed?
Ayesha r moved with her family to Habasha. What year was that? How many years before the migration? How old was Ayesha r, when her older sister Hafsa r passed away? How many years after prophet's demise s.a.a.s did she passed away, did the Hafsa r passed away? How much older was Hafsa than Ayesha? It is reported the prophet allowed children more than a certain age to join him to expeditions. What years Ayesha joined the prophet on one of the expedition?
I recorded that the apostle saw her (UmmuIFad) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, if she grows up and I am still alive, I will marry her -The Hadith Ishaq Muhammad after Aisha when she was just a toddler?
If I grasp you correctly, you place the question of the girl marrying your prophet in the context of the time: in other words, that was how the people of that time, the still-pagan Arabs, behaved.
What probably occupies people today is simply how to persuade mohamed's followers to accept the age of marriage at 16 or 18, something which contradicts the behaviour of their very own prophet.
A girl turns into a woman when she reaches of age in Islam. Now the average age is 11-13. Some do not reach age until 17 while others as early as 9. In Islam parents of both bride and groom have to agree on the marriage and both bride and groom have to agree as well. Groom has to provide for family without parents help.Bride must be able to take care of family without parents help. By the time most Muslims reach all these reqirements they are in their mid twenties hence most marry at that age.
Good job hun. To me, this is the kind of topic I'm only able to explain in a face-t-face discussion. Or maybe in writing. But not on a video or on the phone. Hamdulilah, there are those such as yourself who are able to do so. Gracias!
The report of 9 yr age was forged and spread by Iraqi (KOOFI) Shias. All reports given in Bukhari are not correct. Bukhari was a man like u and me and was not infallible. There are over 20 authentic irrefutable proofs that age was 19 to 22 yr at the time of marriage.
Only stupid and ignorant Muslim scholars are supporting the forged report of 9 yr to support enemies of Islam
Romans (and others) married off the girls at the first cycle. Early Christians did this also! Its in history and documented. That is simply how life was then!
the 70 Virgins are made up, not from the Qur'an. And the virgins are not literally human virgins. "7ooriyat" is metaphorical for beautiful beings. Heaven is undefined and you can have anything you desire. But keep in mind, that once you die "earthly desires" are stripped away as are all form of negative feelings. If I, as a female, wanted "virgin men" then I can have one. But that won't happen because once earthly desires are gone, I will not want one. Nor would men want "virgins" in that sense
You contradict yourself. Use your brain to THINK. The "heaven" muslims look forward to is nothing but fleshly desire. Why? THINK. "Earthly" desires are exactly what the quran uses to entice people... Wine, sex, soft couches, shade trees. EVERYTHING appealing to who? The nomad, the poor, those in the Hot desert sun, good way to entice isnt it?
The heaven of the quran it one thing that shows the fact that islam is nothing more than a plagarized religion promising fleshly desires when following the true God, Jesus the Christ, tells you to DENY those lusts.. Thats the main differance in the two religions. One appeals to mans sinfull nature (islam) Once tells you to dent that nature (Christian).
In those times once a female got her menstrual cycle in ALL of the cultures and countries she would be considered a woman and therefore elgible to get married. In those days once a girl turned 17 or 18 they were actually considered too old to get married in all of the cultures and countries.
ok ive got a question? if Mohamed was sent by god why did he Question him when he was told to pray so many times a day. shouldn't he be punished by death for that?
You said "jesus didnt take a bride because the ppl were his bride."... you say this because, in Christian theology, Jesus was never married.... and because of this, you seem to believe that this is a pre-requisite for being sent from God? Again, I don't get it. Let me explain... cont.
I mention this because you are trying to draw a parallel between Jesus(pbuh) (in Christian theology) and Mohammad(pbuh) in Islamic theology, and this is simply a contradiction in terms because Muslims do not believe that Mohammad(pbuh) was a savior, nor God incarnated, just as we do not believe that Jesus(pbuh) was.
So, your requirements and comparisons are redundant. cont..
Our theology is entirely different, and as Muslims we do not have requirements for a "savior" because we do not have one. We believe in One, singular, unearthly creator of all things.
Again, you're using Christian theology. For you, god came in the form of Jesus (pbuh). This did not happen in Islam. We do not need a "second coming of Christ/God". We never had a :first: one. That's YOUR belief. YOUR requirement. Do you understand? And, frankly, I'm done. I've made my point, but I can see where this is going, and I'm not interested in debating. To me, my beliefs, to you, yours.
You're Christian, I assume? Where is the logic in a man who is sent from God NOT being allowed to marry? If a messenger of God is sent to the people as a representation of what a man should do/be, marriage is of paramount importance.
well cause my dad was a paster in the sda church. but anyway. jesus didnt take a bride because the ppl were his bride. that he loves everyone the same rich and poor, muslim none muslim, that by taking a bride would mean he loved someone more then everyone else.
how wouldnt it? in the last few months i have fallen in love i love no one else as much as i love her beside god that is i would do anything for her things i would do for no one else. did he marrie for love or out of need?
Here is the difference, and this is why you can't use Christian theology when trying to understand Islam.
First of all, you are suggesting, if I understand you correctly, that to be a messenger of God, it is imperative that you love the people more than anything, except for God, and thus, taking a wife is counter to that message... so I have to wonder... what of Abraham and Moses? Both had wives (multiple wives, at that)... cont...
my last comment was deleted because it was the truth. Moslems that are not interested in the facts have no respect from me. You are devil worshippers. And this goes to all evil Jews and Christiand and what ever they claim to be. If they are sinners and do evil, the devil is the only thing they are worshipping! Visit onegod. us
I'm having a really hard time understanding Islam, I am trying to be open minded I really am. The Koran teaches that Mohammed was the example of the perfect human being and that we should all strive to be like him. However we must follow the laws of today's society. So in essence we are cherry picking which actions of Mohammed's to follow and which we should not follow depending on the country you happen to be living in.
no Alcohol, drugs, sex, no eating pork .. it's very easy to know which are Haram and which is good, and it doesnt take a muslim to realise it.
and what good actions to do ?? pray to god"Easy", do Charity"easy", Fast Ramadan"easy", Good Deeds "easy" .. i still dont see where the hard part is... it's not like doing a homework. it's a way of life.
Also allah could give him a daughtter instead and avoid the controversy. or adopt Aisha or so many other thinks that preclud him to have sex with a nine year old.
First is a lie. he never had sex with a slave.Infact islam lebarated slaves,eg Bilal RA. What ever PH did was for Allah intruction. Prophet marriage was all fundermental reason not beaing womeniser. eg He married He marriage of Juweiria RA resulted the whole Banu Mustalak became muslim.
yes mary a six year old god told me have sex with a nine year old God told me kill the infidells god told me. how does he prove he is god sent make miricles or what? so why muislim countries had slaves mush later than western countries?
Two marriage that non muslim have problem are marriage of Zainab bin Jahash RA and Aisha RA. This two marriage are only marriage that has hadith and mansion in Quran. Aisha RA in Sahihi Bughari as Ph SW had dream and whenever there is a dream to PH it means command. He did it because Allah instructed that.
Who told you that she never said yes to accept the Prophet PBUH for marriage??? How she become one of the best person to his heart??? A daughter could not play the same role as a wife?? I do not know how you think? when she is 6 she get engaged and at 9 that mean she started bleeding her period and READY to be a wife THEN he PBUH married her. OK
This was a special marriage which Ph SA was sent a dream it which he went to narrate to Abuubakar RA. Whatever that PH dream supporse to be command to him.Abubakar agree and Aisha agree constimented the marriage when she was 9..
yep a dream only he could see and verify why god was so weak that couldn't provide him a daugher or son or a wife of better age or even ask to adopt her butno he had to have sex with a nine year old also she was involved in the civil war of muslims if I'm not wrong.
And the other marriage of Zainab you can find in Suratul Ahzab 33:4-6.She was a wife of his adopted son. Zaid bin Harith RA after his death he married her. All his wifes came with one narration which help to build PH SA life (hadith) which we know he lived as PH for 25 years receiving Quran and act upon it, as embodiment of it.
The mariage of Ummu Habiba RA was a daughter,of Abuu Sufiyan the great enemy of muslim.When her husband die. PH SA send a letter to her. She agree. This was to soften the heart of his enermy. Abuu Sufiyan he was please with this marriage.Because he was still consider him as disent man evernthough he didnt followed him.
At that time women were growing very fast from this time. Also this was blessed by Allah. Aisha is the first muslim women scholer she narrated over 2000 hadith third from the top. If PH SA didnt marry this women islam massage wouldnt be completed. She used to question PH SA where others wouldnt. Sahaba RA used to go learn from Aisha RA.
Bleased yep what ever. why God couldn't provide him with a proper dauter or son or a wife with a proper age btw wasn't aisha involve in the first muslim war? all that is try to find divine but the even bigger problem is muslims 2day use it to mary and have sex with nine year olds. about growing up faster is medicly known have sex at such early age and get pregnet is dangerus.
His marriage was to forge an alliance and bring closer other tribe into islam. He dint do to this to please his human disire. Some marriage was for careering companion who has passed away so this women can have inner peace and stay devoted example the marriage of Sauda RA.
I take this back Aisha RA was 4 on hadith narration after Abuu Hurera 2600,Abdullah bin Omar 2600,Anas Bn Malik 2400,Aisha RA 2200. This show that if Ph SA didnt marry her, his massage of Allah to people would have been incomplete. She used to question where Sahaba RA wouldnt dear or other wifes.
Thanks MashaAllah. I want to add that the reason the Prophet PBUH chose Aisha to be his wife is= that he PBUH found that she is smart and could memorize his behaviour. Aisha hiretated the Hadith the heretage of the home life of the prophet all things relationship between husband and wife, gusll the abloshing etc etc ...
what when she was she was 4 ? the first time he hade a dream of her or when was six when was maried her so it wasn't divine it was him whant to have a six year old bride after all
...I know Christians seem to love to jump on this topic of Aisha's age as well, but I don't suppose there was an age check for all of Solomon's 300 wives and 700 concubines? A sophist's "defense" will be to go on a "modern times" tangent but God must know that the full spectrum of the nature of man has not changed no matter his self-serving inventions...
aparently you don't know the New teastrement and use jewish scriptures do defend mohamed funny + you dont accept them because are corrupt goes some arguments make no sence.
I wondered a lot concerning Aisha(ra); No matter the age, is a man responsible for his wife as a man should be responsible for his wife—treating her with kindness, patience, giving her gifts, talking to her, being responsible for her upkeep and physical and spiritual well being, etc. in a different manner depending on her age?
I would think not. And at no time is Aisha quoted as having a belligerent thing to say about her husband whether he was alive or dead.
Hi Neighboorhood Muslim. tuut tuu Once concern though.Since this act of Pedophilia is already in the books like you mentoined in Bukhari hadith. I know many North African Islamic countires, Oman still pracitce Older guys marrying very young women( 8years). They usually would have 4 wives of different age groups. What's to say that Muslim men would'nt practice it here if US laws were not present. I don't you right perosn to ask this question beucase you are female. just a idea
The Muslim invasion and centuries of domination occurred prior to the convert or leave order. Executed were those who pretended conversion. Muslims invaded Spain for religious and materialistic reasons, not because Christians crossed the Mediterranean and attacked them.
Lol. How long do I have to keep repeating myself to you? You cannot judge Islam on the actions of Muslims who do not properly follow its teachings, just as you cannot do so with Christians or Jews. Are Christians who kill abortionists good representations of Christianity? NO. Plain and simple, dude, I don't know why you have such a hard time grasping this, but I certainly don't have the time to argue semantics with you forever. Good day.
I don't mine compering them lets see how many christians kill abortionists how many muslims kill othe people even other muslims the numbers are painfully one sited and you know.
just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or breed them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam?
The problem is what are the right teachings of Islam: some say that you can hit your woman if she disobeys you as lomg as you do not break bones or draw blood; others say it is only when you have fear of her fidelity; others say you can only "spank" her or hit her with a toothbrush. It seems that there is very little consensus in Islam (when it comes to many behavioral rules). Hence, Muslims can justify just much behavior as Islamic (especially "defensive war")
And while I know very little about North Africa, in Spain, the history is under debate. Though one account does clearly state that Christians in Spain forced not only the Muslims out (if they didn't convert), but also the Jews, by order of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile. Convert, leave, or die. Those were the options.
The leader of those area were not practising Justice and were oppresing there people. In Islam whereever there is that situation you supporse to hate,speak or move with you hand. Thats what Muslim amy did then. No innocent were killed. No force to convert into Islam otherwise the whole Spain would have been muslim.Aslo it was the crusade who went across the cities to Jerusalem to fight muslim.
yep just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or bread them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam? we will liberate you so the americans liberating is something you accept right.
So Muslims can attack whereever they feel that there is injustice now. Sounds like an excuse to attack anywhere (I guess Bush was justified in attacking Iraq since there was no justice there). The Muslims conquered Persia, Byzantine, N Africa, and Spain for loot. They had to keep the Arab tribesmen focused/distracted to stay unified. Once Islam stopped expanding it feel into disarray (first Umayyad then Abbasid)
There plenty of brutal teachings in the Old Testament. But Jesus did not command his disciples to go and kill non-Christians. He said to go and teach all nations. And the nations needed it. We're still learning.
Yes, Jesus(pbuh) told us to turn the other cheek (and be oppressed and slaughtered in the face of hardship and war). Right? We are not instructed to kill non-Muslims in Islam unless they first attck us, in which case self defense is acceptable.
PH sw when he goven Madina there were Jews and Christian were living there and used to get all the basic right. Also there is no such as second class citizen in Quran or treat any one in that version.Read Sayidna Omar when he concer Jerusalem how he treated the people there. Thats what quran insist(See somewhere below).Muslim immigrated to Abasinia Ethiopia,because there were Najayash a Christian leader who were practising Justice.
just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or bread them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam? still believe what you say?
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The concept of reaction to a wrong is deeply ingrained in the Islamic "psyche." This is where IMO Islam is dysfuctional. It just leads to endless vendetta since most people think they were the one wronged. Just look at all the tribal rivalries going on in Iraq at the moment. Maybe the message of Jesus would be better applied here. How come Muslims do not believe in forgiveness to end the bloodshed?
I was reading an article about Indonesia. There was a dispute between two Muslim groups and the government sent a team to mediate. They sent two sunni leaders and a protestant and a christian. When the author asked why did they send the christians when it was a dispute between muslims he replied: Muslims focus on revenge, christians focus on forgiveness. I don't have a source or background to this...but it conveys what my point is.
In Indonesia, there were three Christian schoolgirls who were attacked while walking home from school in Poso. They were beheaded by Muslims. The men were captured. The family of the victimes forgave them. This is the message of Jesus. It seems that you seem to imply that this is not good; that revenge and retaliation is better.
I am not sure what statement you are referring. My point was that I prefer Jesus' example of non-violence to Mohammed's example of retaliation. It is a given that Muslims do not worship Jesus and do not want to...or else..they would not be Muslim, nay? I know that Muslims believe that all non-Muslims will be condemned to hell. I have watched quite a bit of Mr. Deedat and I find his arguments weak and superficial (and condescending). I will look for Mr. Naik.
The Christian Bible does not tell people to drown their children in the bathtub. But I can quote places in the Koran that tell Muslims to kill infidels, although you say the Prophet came here to end brutality.
And my claim is valid if you are actually willing to read the Qu'ran in totality. There are plently of brutal teachings in the Bible, but I make it a point not to jusify violence in any scrpture by comparison to another. I have to assume you're Christian, and I'm fine with that. Learn to be fine with people who are different than you, It will make life a lot better.
You are trying to project Christian values on Islam. That's why you are out of step with the Mecca mullahs. And the Iranian mullahs. Presumably you are out of step also with the very religious Osama bin Laden, too,
Haha. Are you seriously suggesting that OBL is a good representation of Islam? There are some really "religious" christians who say god spoke to them and told them to drown their demon children in the bathtub. I hardly think they represent Christian ideology, though I'm certain they attended mass regularly.
I'm not a recent convert. I've been studying Islam for nearly 10 years - and while I will not say I know "more" about Islam than anyone, I will say I'm able to think for myself and these are the conclusions I've come to.
The girl was allowed no lawyer, Sri Lanka was not allowed to send an observer, and the prosecution alleged no motive. The Saudis answer complaints by saying, "Allah knows best."
Sure! preserved! Whatever! You may want to read Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" Book And then the delusion of the Koran been a preserved, unchanged etc etc book will be refuted and clarifyed! Salam!
paminamas 2 years ago
ur explantion is very convincing of the controversy but then the non believer will never believe even if u proof him that prophet muhammad pbuh was for real a prophet
ruggedboy27 2 years ago
...well, maybe because he wasn't? how can one proof that? that is just a matter of believes, wich means no factual evidence can be presented ever!
paminamas 2 years ago
@LMartella Why are you deleting my comments ;( ??
paminamas 2 years ago
Dear pamuk, obviously we cannot communicate at the same level, you aren't able to question, to ponder and not even to analyze the topics we are talking about... you are just been a parrot memorizing answers and not really knowing how to bringh forward arguments... and this shows me that your education level is not really good... don't want to hurt your feelings but this is sadly the impresion I got!
Well, peace and God bless! Bye!
paminamas 2 years ago
@pamuk... sorry, but I don't have much time to teach you definitions you will have to go to a library & inform your self! [slave, rape, puberty, adolescence etc] Stop reading just the Q'ran & try reading good books like dictionaries...
- The possesion of human beens goes against morals & ethics, you can't possess a human been like you possess a car!
So for sure your sister will be more than glad to sleep with the guy that just kill you & made her a slave... SURE! You don't seem to rationalize!
paminamas 2 years ago
@pamuk Please, that is non sense! slaves are human beens like you and me forced to become property of mean people!! To feed them is not a kind act but a obligation!
Maids carry out a task & get pay for it, have their own homes, are freel DO NOT MISTAKE SERVICE WITH FORCED LABOR AND PRIVATION OF FREEDOM!! I urge you to read the meaning of both!
paminamas 2 years ago
A) @Pamuk, you just need to use common sense:
1. how does people become slaves?centainly not freely! & would you really sleep willingly with a man that just killed your family, husband etc? I don't think so! You will rather die! And if this happend, it is because you were raped no doubt!
2. Let me tell you that becoming your menses does not mke of you a women, but prepairs your body to become one (18-20 y.) & this for sure not when you are 9 years old, at 9 you are STILL A CHILD, then & today!
paminamas 2 years ago
B) @Pamuk
3. Fornication: sexual intercourse between unmarried people. Well, there you have it, Mo. didn't married all the slaves he sleep with, did he?
4. You can free slaves, just if you have some & if this is the case, you are already going against ethics. A man of God will know that to have slaves goes against GOD's principles!
5. There is no justification for doing wrong, not even for the so called prophets,believers (from any religion), by doing so you agree with what they did!!
paminamas 2 years ago
1. I am not a christian. Never the less Jesus never owned slaves. And even if he did its stupid for you to justify your "prophets" misdeeds by saying other people did it too. What if other people ate pork? Should moe have done that too? You see, that argument is stupid. On freeing slaves, have you ever heard of the abolitionist movement? You might want to look that up.
2.
From quran:
33:50-5, 70:29-35, 23:1-6, 4:3, 4:24-25
from hadith:
Bukhari (62:137), Bukhari (34:432), Abu Dawud (2150),
rampage241 2 years ago
You people praise the fact that moe was able to rise above some of the barbaric practices of the pagan arabs like infanticide. If he was the enlightened prophet you laughably claim he was, why wasn't he able to see that fucking children is WRONG! But no, he's more concerned about condemning consentual acts between adults like homosexuality and inter religious marriage and things like eating ham.
Yeah, real holy!
rampage241 2 years ago
It doesn't change the FACT that your "prophet" had sex with children, owned slaves, raped female slaves, made up koranic verses that allowed him, and him alone to have sex with women he wasn't married to, to have as many wives as he wanted while everyone else was limited to 4 and his wives couldn't remarry after he died. Oh, not to mention how he stole the wife of his adopted son.
rampage241 2 years ago
Your statement only proves that people in the USA in 1859 were pervs. It doesn't refute the FACT that Moe was a perv!
rampage241 2 years ago
take off your hijab
woldud 2 years ago
Don't tell me what to do.
LMartella 2 years ago
great inshallah we will fight to end child marriage esp. those under age of 15
love AIsha r.a
nacaaswanacas 2 years ago
1st, tyvm! 2nd, your explaination was amazing and I don't think that you can make it any better. Islam needs people like you sis! People who knows how to defend Islam from the ignorant attacks...
Thank you again, and I hope if you continue this. May Allah be with you!
From your Syrian Muslim bro...
Salam Alaykom
magma0s 3 years ago
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sister I am doubtful about your teaching !!!, may allah forgive us and all mankind
Carbon2020 3 years ago
These are not my teachings, nor did I come up with any of these theories on my own.
May Allah(swt) indeed have mercy on us all.
LMartella 3 years ago
How do we know the brain of the transsexual is female in the sense a genetic girl's brain is female. Maybe transsexuals experience their womenhood in a way unlike genetic girls. These are all valid questions. Also male bodies are more prone to certain diseases, how does that affect the female brain. I know you can't answer all these questions. It would take a few specialist with PHD's to fully explain. I want to learn though, I don't want to hate something without understanding it.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
Your body produces hormones a female body does not, I wonder...Also how could you test for you it? Beyond taking a genetic girl's brain and transplanting it into a male body and observe the changes in her. Would she feel the same? would she lose some of her feminine mind? Also exactly how feminine is a transsexuals brain? Is it more female than a genetic girls? Is it less female than a genetic girl's? As the transsexual ages how does the male aging body affect the female brain.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
I have a question concerning pakistani culture. My husband is pakistani and a muslim. When his male friend comes over they sleep together in the same bed. From a western view point it's considered gay for two grown men to share the same bed.
Is my Husband secretly gay or is this normal in the pakistani culture?
Thank you so much for helping me with this problem.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
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karmatic1110 3 years ago
Confused? Karmatic with the IQ of 134 I think your only book smart. You lack the intelligence of politicians.
Karmatic remember I am only one person, one person over the internet who is telling you your not a real women. There are billions of people who think your not a real women. How can you fight billions? Transsexuals are not real women, period. Face reality
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
I am confused at the stupidity of your question. Two men sleeping in a bed is an action and could never dictate sexuality. Sexuality assumes an attraction. To assume so is seriously misinformed. Also to claim something like that is the western view is untrue as well.
It may be prevalent but not all encompassing. I have zero reason to be accommodating. I therefore lack nothing. Your reality is again opinion. Nothing is going to make it factual. "Real" in and of itself is subjective.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Billions of people encompass the "average" which historically has never been the most efficient group of people anyways. Also just as many people if not more DO in fact consider me a real woman. I also don't view this as a fight. To do so is very primitive.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Oh my God, I dare you to walk into any high school and tell everyone your a real women. Let them tell you what kind of "women" you are. Seriously I think that's the only way your going to face reality.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
Yes because as we know high school students are always correct and aren't AT ALL insecure or ready and willing to single out anybody for anything. At least I can see where you get your logic from...a high school level classroom.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
This is what I'm talking about when I ment your only book smart. High School kids have not yet learned to refine and polish their social skills. They won't hold back from the truth. Adults have learned you can't always speak what's on your mind.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
So an ignorant population of people is supposed to matter somehow? LOL. Why would that be in the least bit valid? You know your awfully concerned with what other's think. I understand in Asian cultures "saving face" is very important but geez.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Karmatic saving face is very important.
Karmatic people cannot make the mental leap and think of transsexauls as real women. What your asking for is impossible.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
Many things have been considered impossible and more and more people daily are accepting transgendered people as women... especially considering that we now have a genetic link to gender identity disorder. Back 30 years ago I could have made the same statement about homosexuality and today people ARE accepting them.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
No their not Karmatic. Canada voted against giving gays the same rights as straight couples. Ok lets go with this flow of logic. Lets say all 6 billion people on earth agreed that transsexuals are real women. That still does not make it true. You still have a male body and a female mind. Lets reverse that lets say all 6 billion people said your not a real women. What they think is not worth a damn to
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
OK for ONCE we agree on something. Regardless of other's opinions it doesn't prove or disprove anything.
Statistically as the generations pass people are becoming more supportive of homosexuality and transsexuality. That is a true statement. A vote doesn't matter...what matters is the increase in support. My problem with your opinion is NOT that you see me as real or not, but your insistence that I identify as a transsexual. See what I mean? I should be able to identify as I wish.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Mmm you got me there. I do believe in freedom of choice, very very very strongly believe in freedom of choice. I have no right to force you to identify as transsexual. Damn you found my weakness. I believe people should always have the freedom to choose. ohhh that is what bothered me the most. If a transsexual wants to call herself a women that's fine but to force other people to call her a women that I disagree with.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
So would you call me she?
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Mmm I do believe mentally and emotionally your a women. I do believe your thought processes are like a women, I believe you behave like a women, I believe you absorb information like a women, I believe your soul is that of a women.
But I wonder and I'm no doctor how does living in a male body affect your female brain? I mean your organs, your tissues are all male and yet your brain is hardwired to be female. Does living in that male body somehow make that female brain of yours more masculine?
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
LOL WELL...that is a VERY long answer I shall take it to private message...
karmatic1110 3 years ago
You also admitted that knowledge of transsexuality isn't mainstream and then you go onto give an example that contradicts your statement?
karmatic1110 3 years ago
Now it is what with all the gay men in dresses who make all these videos, it's in the news, it's in the media. Now it's in your face.
MissPiggy78 3 years ago
Yes...gay men who like women...wait there is something wrong with that statement. The media portrays what is profitable not always factual.
karmatic1110 3 years ago
is not for you to debate this .. without fikah let this things for olamae al omat and stop make fitna you??!! LMartella..mouslim women latkhada3 bel kaweel and make sexy signes with her eyes and face and play sexy movies go learn if you are realy mouslim and if you are really loking for troughts
sadera1 3 years ago
I'm allowed to give dawah.
And you are allowed to not watch my videos.
And if you know your Islam so much better than I do, you should know how extremely haram it is to question a sister or brothers Islam.
LMartella 3 years ago
mahashaalaha......u look so beautfull in your hijab....
nokia99999999999 3 years ago
Anther thing :
We see in our time , that females differ in their time of maturity. Being mature is not only sexual parts but also the awareness and mental development. This so clear thing not among males but among females as well.
SalamSecrets 3 years ago
One important point also:
Look at the history and see how much Aisha may allah be pleased with her , loved the prophet. How mush she was jealous toward him?
If we say that she hated the prophet, then we can predict that she was forced to marry him.But that was not the case.
SalamSecrets 3 years ago
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abadiqaisy123 3 years ago
There is no fasting age for male and female? The requirement is puberty? It is the same requirement for the marriage? Procreation,obligations,compassion, halal relationship & family life is the primary purpose & requirement of marriage.
alfatourist 3 years ago
The narrations that contradict Hisham's have multiple narrators & sources that tally. Narration from Hisham, though from more than source, but only reported by him?
alfatourist 3 years ago
Does Quran mention waiting period as the requirement for a female to be rewed? Does the waiting period not apply to female who has a regular cycles? Is it not common sense and does not to relate to a female who does not have regular cycle?
Also, has Allah not mentioned prophet s.a.a.s as the walking Quran? He conformed to the Quran and set and example.
alfatourist 3 years ago
Also,Hisham has reported from Iraq? Was he known to be forgetful? Also, are his narrations from one source or multiple sources? How about the other narrations that contradict Hisham? If you ask factual questions like this, it is easy to come to a conclusion.
Also, did somebody object to prophet's wedding? Who proposed Ayesha r to the prophet?
What does Quran say about the waiting period for a female to be wed?
alfatourist 3 years ago
Ayesha r moved with her family to Habasha. What year was that? How many years before the migration? How old was Ayesha r, when her older sister Hafsa r passed away? How many years after prophet's demise s.a.a.s did she passed away, did the Hafsa r passed away? How much older was Hafsa than Ayesha? It is reported the prophet allowed children more than a certain age to join him to expeditions. What years Ayesha joined the prophet on one of the expedition?
alfatourist 3 years ago
I recorded that the apostle saw her (UmmuIFad) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, if she grows up and I am still alive, I will marry her -The Hadith Ishaq Muhammad after Aisha when she was just a toddler?
Meshreen50534 3 years ago
Great sister , mashallah , I ask god to give me a wife like you as a gift.
adilfahad 3 years ago
Hello, thanks for the thought-provoking clip...
If I grasp you correctly, you place the question of the girl marrying your prophet in the context of the time: in other words, that was how the people of that time, the still-pagan Arabs, behaved.
What probably occupies people today is simply how to persuade mohamed's followers to accept the age of marriage at 16 or 18, something which contradicts the behaviour of their very own prophet.
IamScarface 3 years ago
A girl turns into a woman when she reaches of age in Islam. Now the average age is 11-13. Some do not reach age until 17 while others as early as 9. In Islam parents of both bride and groom have to agree on the marriage and both bride and groom have to agree as well. Groom has to provide for family without parents help.Bride must be able to take care of family without parents help. By the time most Muslims reach all these reqirements they are in their mid twenties hence most marry at that age.
bigboywasim 3 years ago
may Allah(swt) be pleased with u
supercoder2006 3 years ago
wow look at ur eyes marshallah
issy7862003 3 years ago
mashaAllah
thurraya 3 years ago
Good job hun. To me, this is the kind of topic I'm only able to explain in a face-t-face discussion. Or maybe in writing. But not on a video or on the phone. Hamdulilah, there are those such as yourself who are able to do so. Gracias!
SabzST 3 years ago
The report of 9 yr age was forged and spread by Iraqi (KOOFI) Shias. All reports given in Bukhari are not correct. Bukhari was a man like u and me and was not infallible. There are over 20 authentic irrefutable proofs that age was 19 to 22 yr at the time of marriage.
Only stupid and ignorant Muslim scholars are supporting the forged report of 9 yr to support enemies of Islam
FictionsBlaster 3 years ago 2
I made a second video supporting the older age theory.
LMartella 3 years ago
Very good video!
trwilson448 4 years ago 2
I applaud your patience and your research.
Thank you.
ibrahimsaab 4 years ago 3
You are correct!
Romans (and others) married off the girls at the first cycle. Early Christians did this also! Its in history and documented. That is simply how life was then!
Muhammad PBUH did nothing wrong!
nurrah19 4 years ago 2
I wonder something... If a muslim man gets 70 virgins, what do you get? DO you get to be one of many sex slaves to a good muslim man?
truthbetold4u 4 years ago
the 70 Virgins are made up, not from the Qur'an. And the virgins are not literally human virgins. "7ooriyat" is metaphorical for beautiful beings. Heaven is undefined and you can have anything you desire. But keep in mind, that once you die "earthly desires" are stripped away as are all form of negative feelings. If I, as a female, wanted "virgin men" then I can have one. But that won't happen because once earthly desires are gone, I will not want one. Nor would men want "virgins" in that sense
SabzST 3 years ago
You contradict yourself. Use your brain to THINK. The "heaven" muslims look forward to is nothing but fleshly desire. Why? THINK. "Earthly" desires are exactly what the quran uses to entice people... Wine, sex, soft couches, shade trees. EVERYTHING appealing to who? The nomad, the poor, those in the Hot desert sun, good way to entice isnt it?
truthbetold4u 3 years ago
The heaven of the quran it one thing that shows the fact that islam is nothing more than a plagarized religion promising fleshly desires when following the true God, Jesus the Christ, tells you to DENY those lusts.. Thats the main differance in the two religions. One appeals to mans sinfull nature (islam) Once tells you to dent that nature (Christian).
truthbetold4u 3 years ago
In those times once a female got her menstrual cycle in ALL of the cultures and countries she would be considered a woman and therefore elgible to get married. In those days once a girl turned 17 or 18 they were actually considered too old to get married in all of the cultures and countries.
SparkilinDiamond 4 years ago
YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANKS
zalikel 4 years ago
salaam alaikum to you. thanks his helped explain some things to me. im a new muslimah :)
kitcath8 4 years ago
ok ive got a question? if Mohamed was sent by god why did he Question him when he was told to pray so many times a day. shouldn't he be punished by death for that?
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
sex was created after Adam was made when he wanted someone to share the world with so good made woman out of his side. is that the same for a Muslim?
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
god*
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
Again, your logic confuses me.
You said "jesus didnt take a bride because the ppl were his bride."... you say this because, in Christian theology, Jesus was never married.... and because of this, you seem to believe that this is a pre-requisite for being sent from God? Again, I don't get it. Let me explain... cont.
LMartella 4 years ago
So, is the message of Abraham and Moses to be questioned, as a Christian? I'd hope not.
However, being from a Catholic background, i think I understand your process of thought.
Because, to Christians, Jesus(pbuh) was not a mere messenger or Prophet of God - you view him as the messiah.. the savior.... god incarnated...
Muslims (and Jews for that matter), do not believe this.
cont...
LMartella 4 years ago
I mention this because you are trying to draw a parallel between Jesus(pbuh) (in Christian theology) and Mohammad(pbuh) in Islamic theology, and this is simply a contradiction in terms because Muslims do not believe that Mohammad(pbuh) was a savior, nor God incarnated, just as we do not believe that Jesus(pbuh) was.
So, your requirements and comparisons are redundant. cont..
LMartella 4 years ago
Our theology is entirely different, and as Muslims we do not have requirements for a "savior" because we do not have one. We believe in One, singular, unearthly creator of all things.
I hope that cleared some things up.
Peace.
LMartella 4 years ago
so r u waiting for god to come again or come a first time then a second?
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
Again, you're using Christian theology. For you, god came in the form of Jesus (pbuh). This did not happen in Islam. We do not need a "second coming of Christ/God". We never had a :first: one. That's YOUR belief. YOUR requirement. Do you understand? And, frankly, I'm done. I've made my point, but I can see where this is going, and I'm not interested in debating. To me, my beliefs, to you, yours.
LMartella 4 years ago
Peace/Salaams :D
LMartella 4 years ago
i just dont get why he married? when he was sent from god?
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
You're Christian, I assume? Where is the logic in a man who is sent from God NOT being allowed to marry? If a messenger of God is sent to the people as a representation of what a man should do/be, marriage is of paramount importance.
LMartella 4 years ago
well cause my dad was a paster in the sda church. but anyway. jesus didnt take a bride because the ppl were his bride. that he loves everyone the same rich and poor, muslim none muslim, that by taking a bride would mean he loved someone more then everyone else.
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
You must recognize that this is Christian logic. It does not mean it is general logic. To me, that makes no sense. I'm sorry.
LMartella 4 years ago
how wouldnt it? in the last few months i have fallen in love i love no one else as much as i love her beside god that is i would do anything for her things i would do for no one else. did he marrie for love or out of need?
Twodaystogo 4 years ago
Here is the difference, and this is why you can't use Christian theology when trying to understand Islam.
First of all, you are suggesting, if I understand you correctly, that to be a messenger of God, it is imperative that you love the people more than anything, except for God, and thus, taking a wife is counter to that message... so I have to wonder... what of Abraham and Moses? Both had wives (multiple wives, at that)... cont...
LMartella 4 years ago
my last comment was deleted because it was the truth. Moslems that are not interested in the facts have no respect from me. You are devil worshippers. And this goes to all evil Jews and Christiand and what ever they claim to be. If they are sinners and do evil, the devil is the only thing they are worshipping! Visit onegod. us
candygir7 4 years ago
im sort of confused..who are you calling devil worshippers?
afgzar44 4 years ago
I'm having a really hard time understanding Islam, I am trying to be open minded I really am. The Koran teaches that Mohammed was the example of the perfect human being and that we should all strive to be like him. However we must follow the laws of today's society. So in essence we are cherry picking which actions of Mohammed's to follow and which we should not follow depending on the country you happen to be living in.
MissPiggy78 4 years ago
there is nothing hard ..
no Alcohol, drugs, sex, no eating pork .. it's very easy to know which are Haram and which is good, and it doesnt take a muslim to realise it.
and what good actions to do ?? pray to god"Easy", do Charity"easy", Fast Ramadan"easy", Good Deeds "easy" .. i still dont see where the hard part is... it's not like doing a homework. it's a way of life.
nassernasa 4 years ago
i love your intros, mashAllah adorable.
hollywoodo 4 years ago
didn't she got involved in the whole civil war because which even to day shias and sunnys kill its other?
kreb7 4 years ago
Also allah could give him a daughtter instead and avoid the controversy. or adopt Aisha or so many other thinks that preclud him to have sex with a nine year old.
kreb7 4 years ago
Mashaallah sister good knowledge keep it up. Allah Bless You
braveking01 4 years ago
why did he nead in his life time 13 wifes in total plus if I'm not mistaken he had sex even with slave girls.
kreb7 4 years ago
First is a lie. he never had sex with a slave.Infact islam lebarated slaves,eg Bilal RA. What ever PH did was for Allah intruction. Prophet marriage was all fundermental reason not beaing womeniser. eg He married He marriage of Juweiria RA resulted the whole Banu Mustalak became muslim.
simple82best 4 years ago
so did he mary 13 women in total or not? and Aisha been 6?
kreb7 4 years ago
yes mary a six year old god told me have sex with a nine year old God told me kill the infidells god told me. how does he prove he is god sent make miricles or what? so why muislim countries had slaves mush later than western countries?
kreb7 4 years ago
Two marriage that non muslim have problem are marriage of Zainab bin Jahash RA and Aisha RA. This two marriage are only marriage that has hadith and mansion in Quran. Aisha RA in Sahihi Bughari as Ph SW had dream and whenever there is a dream to PH it means command. He did it because Allah instructed that.
simple82best 4 years ago
Again my question is did he marry 13 woman and six year old?
kreb7 4 years ago
When Aisha did agree with the marriage ? according to islam she should agree but she never said yes did she?
kreb7 4 years ago
Who told you that she never said yes to accept the Prophet PBUH for marriage??? How she become one of the best person to his heart??? A daughter could not play the same role as a wife?? I do not know how you think? when she is 6 she get engaged and at 9 that mean she started bleeding her period and READY to be a wife THEN he PBUH married her. OK
Islamslave 4 years ago
This was a special marriage which Ph SA was sent a dream it which he went to narrate to Abuubakar RA. Whatever that PH dream supporse to be command to him.Abubakar agree and Aisha agree constimented the marriage when she was 9..
simple82best 4 years ago
yep a dream only he could see and verify why god was so weak that couldn't provide him a daugher or son or a wife of better age or even ask to adopt her butno he had to have sex with a nine year old also she was involved in the civil war of muslims if I'm not wrong.
kreb7 4 years ago
And the other marriage of Zainab you can find in Suratul Ahzab 33:4-6.She was a wife of his adopted son. Zaid bin Harith RA after his death he married her. All his wifes came with one narration which help to build PH SA life (hadith) which we know he lived as PH for 25 years receiving Quran and act upon it, as embodiment of it.
simple82best 4 years ago
is their in the quran that no one except him should marry a six year old or left open for people even today.
kreb7 4 years ago
which hadith said yes?
kreb7 4 years ago
The mariage of Ummu Habiba RA was a daughter,of Abuu Sufiyan the great enemy of muslim.When her husband die. PH SA send a letter to her. She agree. This was to soften the heart of his enermy. Abuu Sufiyan he was please with this marriage.Because he was still consider him as disent man evernthough he didnt followed him.
simple82best 4 years ago
again which hadith did she say YES show me so I can check bte was not involved in the first civil war of muslims?
kreb7 4 years ago
sent the sura?
kreb7 4 years ago
At that time women were growing very fast from this time. Also this was blessed by Allah. Aisha is the first muslim women scholer she narrated over 2000 hadith third from the top. If PH SA didnt marry this women islam massage wouldnt be completed. She used to question PH SA where others wouldnt. Sahaba RA used to go learn from Aisha RA.
simple82best 4 years ago
Bleased yep what ever. why God couldn't provide him with a proper dauter or son or a wife with a proper age btw wasn't aisha involve in the first muslim war? all that is try to find divine but the even bigger problem is muslims 2day use it to mary and have sex with nine year olds. about growing up faster is medicly known have sex at such early age and get pregnet is dangerus.
kreb7 4 years ago
His marriage was to forge an alliance and bring closer other tribe into islam. He dint do to this to please his human disire. Some marriage was for careering companion who has passed away so this women can have inner peace and stay devoted example the marriage of Sauda RA.
simple82best 4 years ago
still avoiding did he marry 13 women or not and if mary a six year old and if quran still alowes it today?
kreb7 4 years ago
so is political nothing divine?
kreb7 4 years ago
I take this back Aisha RA was 4 on hadith narration after Abuu Hurera 2600,Abdullah bin Omar 2600,Anas Bn Malik 2400,Aisha RA 2200. This show that if Ph SA didnt marry her, his massage of Allah to people would have been incomplete. She used to question where Sahaba RA wouldnt dear or other wifes.
simple82best 4 years ago
still avoiding did he marry 13 women or not and if mary a six yearold and if quran still alowes it today?
kreb7 4 years ago
when you get to the page go contact shabirally and write your question inshaallah we will reply you indetail. You most wellcome please.
simple82best 4 years ago
whos is shabiraly ?
kreb7 4 years ago
What does she says? Aisha in her hadiths?
kreb7 4 years ago
Thanks MashaAllah. I want to add that the reason the Prophet PBUH chose Aisha to be his wife is= that he PBUH found that she is smart and could memorize his behaviour. Aisha hiretated the Hadith the heretage of the home life of the prophet all things relationship between husband and wife, gusll the abloshing etc etc ...
Allah reward you
Islamslave 4 years ago
so God couldn't give him a dauter with this abilities?
kreb7 4 years ago
I though got told him ?
kreb7 4 years ago
Please,Please write all your question you have to shabirally dot kom We will answer you indetail inshaallah.
simple82best 4 years ago
so you have no Idea guys ?
kreb7 4 years ago
what when she was she was 4 ? the first time he hade a dream of her or when was six when was maried her so it wasn't divine it was him whant to have a six year old bride after all
kreb7 4 years ago
God bless you :)
thanks for clearing it up ... :)
ArchitectAt 4 years ago
...I know Christians seem to love to jump on this topic of Aisha's age as well, but I don't suppose there was an age check for all of Solomon's 300 wives and 700 concubines? A sophist's "defense" will be to go on a "modern times" tangent but God must know that the full spectrum of the nature of man has not changed no matter his self-serving inventions...
FriedChikkin 4 years ago
aparently you don't know the New teastrement and use jewish scriptures do defend mohamed funny + you dont accept them because are corrupt goes some arguments make no sence.
kreb7 4 years ago
I wondered a lot concerning Aisha(ra); No matter the age, is a man responsible for his wife as a man should be responsible for his wife—treating her with kindness, patience, giving her gifts, talking to her, being responsible for her upkeep and physical and spiritual well being, etc. in a different manner depending on her age?
I would think not. And at no time is Aisha quoted as having a belligerent thing to say about her husband whether he was alive or dead.
FriedChikkin 4 years ago
before or after the civil war she cause to muslims.
kreb7 4 years ago
Hi Neighboorhood Muslim. tuut tuu Once concern though.Since this act of Pedophilia is already in the books like you mentoined in Bukhari hadith. I know many North African Islamic countires, Oman still pracitce Older guys marrying very young women( 8years). They usually would have 4 wives of different age groups. What's to say that Muslim men would'nt practice it here if US laws were not present. I don't you right perosn to ask this question beucase you are female. just a idea
visitmario 4 years ago
The Muslim invasion and centuries of domination occurred prior to the convert or leave order. Executed were those who pretended conversion. Muslims invaded Spain for religious and materialistic reasons, not because Christians crossed the Mediterranean and attacked them.
luftigus 4 years ago
So Muslims were "first attacked" all across North Africa and then by the Christians in Spain? Ridiculous.
luftigus 4 years ago
Lol. How long do I have to keep repeating myself to you? You cannot judge Islam on the actions of Muslims who do not properly follow its teachings, just as you cannot do so with Christians or Jews. Are Christians who kill abortionists good representations of Christianity? NO. Plain and simple, dude, I don't know why you have such a hard time grasping this, but I certainly don't have the time to argue semantics with you forever. Good day.
LMartella 4 years ago
I don't mine compering them lets see how many christians kill abortionists how many muslims kill othe people even other muslims the numbers are painfully one sited and you know.
kreb7 4 years ago
It was apart to remove the injustice.NOT FORCE PEOPLE IN ISLAM,couse Quran forbid that.
simple82best 4 years ago
just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or breed them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam?
kreb7 4 years ago
The problem is what are the right teachings of Islam: some say that you can hit your woman if she disobeys you as lomg as you do not break bones or draw blood; others say it is only when you have fear of her fidelity; others say you can only "spank" her or hit her with a toothbrush. It seems that there is very little consensus in Islam (when it comes to many behavioral rules). Hence, Muslims can justify just much behavior as Islamic (especially "defensive war")
rhomas913 4 years ago
And while I know very little about North Africa, in Spain, the history is under debate. Though one account does clearly state that Christians in Spain forced not only the Muslims out (if they didn't convert), but also the Jews, by order of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile. Convert, leave, or die. Those were the options.
LMartella 4 years ago
LMartella
Watch this video on youtube and you be the judge. copy and paste
Non-Muslim Boys Being Whipped by Muslims
RahulKumarny 4 years ago
no history is under debait. Muslims took portugal,spain and part of france and all that about 500 before crusades so don't say who attack first.
kreb7 4 years ago
The leader of those area were not practising Justice and were oppresing there people. In Islam whereever there is that situation you supporse to hate,speak or move with you hand. Thats what Muslim amy did then. No innocent were killed. No force to convert into Islam otherwise the whole Spain would have been muslim.Aslo it was the crusade who went across the cities to Jerusalem to fight muslim.
simple82best 4 years ago
yep just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or bread them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam? we will liberate you so the americans liberating is something you accept right.
kreb7 4 years ago
So Muslims can attack whereever they feel that there is injustice now. Sounds like an excuse to attack anywhere (I guess Bush was justified in attacking Iraq since there was no justice there). The Muslims conquered Persia, Byzantine, N Africa, and Spain for loot. They had to keep the Arab tribesmen focused/distracted to stay unified. Once Islam stopped expanding it feel into disarray (first Umayyad then Abbasid)
rhomas913 4 years ago
There plenty of brutal teachings in the Old Testament. But Jesus did not command his disciples to go and kill non-Christians. He said to go and teach all nations. And the nations needed it. We're still learning.
luftigus 4 years ago
Yes, Jesus(pbuh) told us to turn the other cheek (and be oppressed and slaughtered in the face of hardship and war). Right? We are not instructed to kill non-Muslims in Islam unless they first attck us, in which case self defense is acceptable.
LMartella 4 years ago
ye whe see the actions. just have them as second class citisens dimis what happens to non-christians and non-jews what your quran say about them?
kreb7 4 years ago
PH sw when he goven Madina there were Jews and Christian were living there and used to get all the basic right. Also there is no such as second class citizen in Quran or treat any one in that version.Read Sayidna Omar when he concer Jerusalem how he treated the people there. Thats what quran insist(See somewhere below).Muslim immigrated to Abasinia Ethiopia,because there were Najayash a Christian leader who were practising Justice.
simple82best 4 years ago
just coerce them with high taxes and no rights to bare arms or be in the army like a didmi or bread them out since no muslim woman can take Christian but muslim man can take christian women and the children must be muslims you think the dimis are that dam? still believe what you say?
kreb7 4 years ago
As Muslim we wellcome debate,you need to come into open space.Not throwing little lines in here,there insnt space to reply indetail.
simple82best 4 years ago
sent me a message then
kreb7 4 years ago
He is setuated in Canada ssame language don refuse the knowledge if you wise person you should except invitation.Please write to shabbirallydotcom. There isnt enough space to write aswear your question in here.
simple82best 4 years ago
The concept of reaction to a wrong is deeply ingrained in the Islamic "psyche." This is where IMO Islam is dysfuctional. It just leads to endless vendetta since most people think they were the one wronged. Just look at all the tribal rivalries going on in Iraq at the moment. Maybe the message of Jesus would be better applied here. How come Muslims do not believe in forgiveness to end the bloodshed?
rhomas913 4 years ago
I was reading an article about Indonesia. There was a dispute between two Muslim groups and the government sent a team to mediate. They sent two sunni leaders and a protestant and a christian. When the author asked why did they send the christians when it was a dispute between muslims he replied: Muslims focus on revenge, christians focus on forgiveness. I don't have a source or background to this...but it conveys what my point is.
rhomas913 4 years ago 2
In Indonesia, there were three Christian schoolgirls who were attacked while walking home from school in Poso. They were beheaded by Muslims. The men were captured. The family of the victimes forgave them. This is the message of Jesus. It seems that you seem to imply that this is not good; that revenge and retaliation is better.
rhomas913 4 years ago 2
rhomas913
Because we dont want to worship Jesus,nor do we want to say he is Gods son.
When Jesus returns to earth,he will not associate himself with Chrirtians no matter how much they claim to love him.
Watch Dr Zakir Naik or Ahmed Deedat videos for info on Christianity.
rakiims 4 years ago
I am not sure what statement you are referring. My point was that I prefer Jesus' example of non-violence to Mohammed's example of retaliation. It is a given that Muslims do not worship Jesus and do not want to...or else..they would not be Muslim, nay? I know that Muslims believe that all non-Muslims will be condemned to hell. I have watched quite a bit of Mr. Deedat and I find his arguments weak and superficial (and condescending). I will look for Mr. Naik.
rhomas913 4 years ago
The Christian Bible does not tell people to drown their children in the bathtub. But I can quote places in the Koran that tell Muslims to kill infidels, although you say the Prophet came here to end brutality.
luftigus 4 years ago
And my claim is valid if you are actually willing to read the Qu'ran in totality. There are plently of brutal teachings in the Bible, but I make it a point not to jusify violence in any scrpture by comparison to another. I have to assume you're Christian, and I'm fine with that. Learn to be fine with people who are different than you, It will make life a lot better.
LMartella 4 years ago
P.S. the Qu'ran does not say to fly planes into buildings and kill thousands of civilians. Just to be clear.
LMartella 4 years ago
You are trying to project Christian values on Islam. That's why you are out of step with the Mecca mullahs. And the Iranian mullahs. Presumably you are out of step also with the very religious Osama bin Laden, too,
luftigus 4 years ago
Haha. Are you seriously suggesting that OBL is a good representation of Islam? There are some really "religious" christians who say god spoke to them and told them to drown their demon children in the bathtub. I hardly think they represent Christian ideology, though I'm certain they attended mass regularly.
LMartella 4 years ago
LMartella, you are a recent convert, and you know more about Islam than all the mullahs in Mecca?
luftigus 4 years ago
I'm not a recent convert. I've been studying Islam for nearly 10 years - and while I will not say I know "more" about Islam than anyone, I will say I'm able to think for myself and these are the conclusions I've come to.
LMartella 4 years ago
The girl was allowed no lawyer, Sri Lanka was not allowed to send an observer, and the prosecution alleged no motive. The Saudis answer complaints by saying, "Allah knows best."
luftigus 4 years ago