CIWS Firing in the Pacific.

[rcoons50187]

The Cheez Whiz. 8^)

[pyd204]

Keep hearing things about the Dutch Goal Keeper. Do some research, the goal keeper was developed by general electric who also supplies the weapon to Thalas. The weapon is the GAU-8 which is also deployed in the A10. It does pack more punch in that fires a 30mm projectile. The Phalanx also was in service at an earlier date than the Goal Keeper. National pride is one thing, but boasting like you've developed something a one-uped the US is foolish. If not for GE, the Dutch would have no Goal Keeper

[programadolouco]

lol crazy machine of destruction ha ha

[FarleyTube]

Have any of these actually been used in combat yet? I can't think of any American naval engagements.

[billy1303]

@FarleyTube This is used as a defense system to mainly take out incoming missiles. It can also take out planes, drones, and helicopters. It is a new technology so it hasn't had to be used yet. The Iraqis or Afghans have nothing that we would need to use it for. It would be used against a modern army like Russia or China.

[anonwelder]

What's the tampon for?

[Bullrush1313]

Is that a frigate they're on?

[scpolice1]

Thats a cruiser (CG)

[dustystix76]

the new generation Phalanx CAN be used as a surface target gun, due to the addition of cameras to the CWIS

[riparianlife97701]

The Phalanx anti-pirate system. Get one video of one of these things hitting a pirate boat online, and the Somalis will go back to eating their donated food peacefully.

[fleetr06]

What cruiser is this, and i think kirkori' whatever is the navy's unofficial FC.

[kirkorespite]

Cirux321, what the hell are you! A damn scientist!? anyway America rocks thats 20mm shooting at 2000 rounds a minute. The range of this gun is 1 mile. The gun is called the phalanx. I'm 14 and I new that.

[somedude07]

he probably knew that too. as for your post, well thank you captain obvious.

[Cirux321]

Sorry for the long delay in response. I was replying to Humexavier about the theorized specs for the Navy's EM(railgun) weapon. I know exactly what the Phalanx is/does. I shot them and the ships 5"/54 Mk-45 frequently in the Navy. I'm a former Fire Controlman Petty Officer First Class (FC1) on the USS Porter (DDG-78) from 00-03 and USS Cowpens (CG-63) from 03-04. The block 1A mods RoF is 4000 RPM, but only shot in 1000 round bursts with a 1500 round magazine. Pinpoint accuracy range = 2.5 miles

[Broadsidejohn]

Hey stiffler79-I am no expert but this video is of the older 20 mm Phalanx, not the upgraded 30 mm version. Plus the incoming threat has to get past any f-18's, sea sparrow missile, then RAM missile. Oh, Russians don't produce any "offensive" weapons? You are a communist/terrorist inbecile. Go choke on what's left of Saddam Hussein's money for oil program that your nomenklatura and apparatchicks put in their pockets so they would try to stop the free world from taking any diplomatic action.

[humexavier]

Is it possible to lesson friction on cannon guns on a battle ship, when missile and cannon are made with high powered electro magnet material. Allowing less friction in between cannon and missile. What would be the degree of shot enhanced accuracy. Any ideas on this.

[FailedSquare]

friction is used to impart spin on a projectile, which increases accuracy over the ballistic path. It is possible to make a magnetic cannon. Its called a "Gauss" weapon, which uses magnetic fields to accelerate a projectile more efficiently than a chemical explosion, but they are still impractical and under development at the moment.

[seamanspencer]

yup, also called railguns

[Cirux321]

humexavier, the US Navy is currently developing electromagnetic weapons. In theory, the current design operating a full capacity will be able to discharge a 5" slug at an initial velocity of 2,382.03 m/s or Mach 7. The range is estimated at around 200 miles, with considerable accuracy and projectile impact velocity at ranges of about 1,701.45 m/s, or Mach 5. The projectile is purely kinetic and can replicate damage equal to a 1000lbs tomahawk missile warhead or an Iowa's 16" guns.

[fpstina]

Copy/Paste

[finchiestiffler79]

nah.. bs.

[vanhouw]

Never beats the Dutch Goalkeeper :D

[datapad]

goalkeeper is almost the same as this gun, but goalkeeper packs a bigger punch.

[finchiestiffler79]

givving thumbs down is the best US can provide against Russian AShM.

[finchiestiffler79]

poor CIWS, can't hit moskit and yakhont.

[mosstd]

what are moskit and yakhont

[finchiestiffler79]

Russian AShM

[mosstd]

yher just googled them russia makes some top draw wepons wouldn't want to look out my window n c one of them coming my way

[finchiestiffler79]

russia don't do that. the russians always stand on defensive, they don't make those for offensive unlike the americans.

[JgHaverty]

LOL wrong, but ok.

[hijodepuuu]

yes

[MSGDK]

this is an anti-missile system. isn't it?

[jtoatoktoe]

yeah missiles and low flying aircraft

[finchiestiffler79]

only subsonic missiles.

[vielbaum]

Yes it tracks it's own rounds, yes it is very common for a properly calibrated mount to track the wire that hauls the dummy in test fires. It will also track debris and fire at that as well. It has one of the most accurate track radar systems in the world. Sweet for creeping up on it's 40th anniversary.

[NavyBrat90]

What ship is this?

[JimDanger]

USS Chancellorsville

[Y0uTuB3Admin]

Isnt the GAU's barrel 6 meters long?

Not really practical for a CIWS

[rwv2]

funniest thing i saw in the navy was on the USS GW, people in a smoke pit just under a CIWS forgot about the test and when it went off man did they run!

[themike809]

DTE was too slow when the Cole was hit. After the Cole you no longer had to run a request chit halfway to the Pentagon to pull your weapon.

[Karpindur]

Would Phalanx be usefull against murder-bombers in small boats? Could it have stopped the USS Cole attack?

[TravisBickle2]

It could've. but that ship was prolly in a relax posture. That port call was very routine-until then.

[Backerman2]

No genius, it couldn't have. Only the Block 1B has surface capability, and the Cole did'nt have a BLK 1B back then. It does however, have 1 now.

[pilopino67]

It could have...but yeah, we were in a much more relaxed posture (this was back in 2000) and yes, we didn't have 1B back then. The bomber boat was able to, despite looking suspicious, be passed off by many topside that it was one of several boats out there to assist us in our refueling. So it's much more than the weapon system. For the most part, it's a readiness and response issue what happened to our ship and what will have to be addressed to prevent that from happening again.

[pilopino67]

CIWS Block 1B has IR optic on radome and can be manually fired, usually more for surface targets.

The A-10's 37mm gun has a much slower rate of fire and is not as accurate.

In regards to Goalkeeper, I've done exercises with NATO. Pilots towing target drone are more afraid of Phalanx than Goalkeeper.

[Molari]

does that mean phalanx is more inaccurate and could erroneously switch targets to the pilot?

[pilopino67]

Oh no, it's incredibly accurate. I had heard in one instance, however, where one mount began tracking up the wire of a plane at one time...though I don't know for sure if that's true, probably not but wouldn't be surprised if it is true. The one pilot I did get to hear just knows that our CIWS hits much more accurately and our smaller rounds have a bit of a higher rate of fire, so it has a bit more of a menacing effect on the pilots that hear and feel all that.

[Molari]

niiice

[mtnviking]

That was on the USS Milwaukee back in the 80's. Scared the shit out of the pilot :)

[bakaneko718]

well if the gun can track its own rounds after they have left the barrel i am sure it is accurate

[Hebiimetaru]

There is a version that features the Gau 8/a aswell, atleast that's what I've heard... Maybe someone can confirm?

[heartsofspace]

Wouldn't the 7 barrel, 30 mm gatling gun of the A10 Warthog provide even better "last chance" ship protection than the 6 barrel, 20 mm Vulcan gun?

[RetSquid]

I think the GAU would be way too big for shipboard use. the A-10 was literally built around that gun, the chamber on that is behind the cockpit.

[JimDanger]

No. The CIWS doesn't just fire on its own. There's a thorough Detect to Enagage (DTE) process the fire control guys go through before anything is fired. Once they determine with a high degree of confidence that it is indeed an enemy, then they engage the CIWS or other defenses.

[steamingpoopfart]

you are wrong if a missle or other target is incoming the weapon will fire on its own at the target and wont miss

and dont tell me iam wrong as i served on the uss morris for 3 years

[heartsofspace]

You have to wonder if the CIWS has accidentally ever shot at one or more birds that flew too close to the ship.

[BaronKreitz]

Exactly. The onboard radar (the large white dome) identifies incoming targets. Then the computer automatically selects and engages incoming targets

[Hebiimetaru]

I don't think it can be operated manually, automatic system since human reaction to a missle-threat is to slow

[Mazryonh]

You forgot to include that CIWS sometimes stands for "Christ! It won't shoot!" I wonder if anyone will be skilled enough to shoot it manually in that situation--we need gunners like those these days.

[daschuck77]

The Mount Whitney's CIWS had the same nickname too...We would have over/under bets on when it would jam during testing.

[Kobusnl]

If i´m correct this is the "MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System". Nice tool but I prefer the "SGE-30 Goalkeeper".

[CRUSADER18]

nice...I hope you never need it, god bless you.