The Corvette did not touch the Porsche ,and even if it did, it was so minor. The Porsche driver overreacted and something really bad could have happened to the Corvette driver. I would have DQ'ed that Porsche driver.
What did the officials have to say about the crash?
I know Magnussen shortcutted the track by using the pit out lane before the first turn acouple laps before this incident, which allowed him to pass Bergmeister on the inside. I laughed when that happened. It was a very interesting manuever. The officials didn't like it, though, and Magnussen was forced to give up his position back to Bergmeister.
You're all forgetting that the entire last 5 minutes of the race the Vette had his high beams on, repetitively forced the Porsche of his racing line, and cut a corner of the course to try and get ahead. The entire time that Porsche did nothing to try and sabotage the Vette's efforts. That was his only retaliation, and it appears to me that he was mostly just defending his position. The vette's mistake was trying to force his way through anyways. He deserves that win.
Everyone is just too eager to bash Americans the don't even take the time to research what the say! American aren't bad people. It's a great place to live. If not why does everyone want to live here?
@STEFAN23744 who care where you live..i know where sears point raceway is and yes its operated by Americans. Why are you telling me this?? Everyone knows this.. All i sad is the driver of the vette is from Denmark. Jan Magnussen.. dude read a little before commenting next time. You totally missed the mark.
@benjenings Correct last time I check it was Jan Magnussen Driving the Vette and if I'm not mistaken he's Danish. @xxrodneyxx Once again...you look like an idiot when you don't state the historical facts correctly
stupid idiot way over did it it was just a bump. drove him all the way into the wall, wrecked him, what if vette man died he would have re thought that dum move.
I kinda feel bad for the corvette driver, he bumped into the Porsche by accident, the Porsche braked a little harder than he expected and he hit him. What the Porsche driver did was a blatant move to wreck the corvette. But that's racing I guess...
If I learned anything from driving a race car its that if you bump someone out of your way make sure you do it hard enough so they don't get a chance to do the same back to you.
I think the misunderstanding stems from a few people here not realizing a) the distinction between GT1 and GT2 and b) the fact that the end of the 2009 season, which closed with this race, saw Corvette switch from GT1 (where they always won because they had no competition, especially after Aston left) to GT2, where they have earned only one class victory in two seasons (which was mostly due to bad gas-math by Risi).
that was some dirty driving by the porsche that guy knew the corvette was gonna pass him for the win so he spins him into the wall and wins. other than that Corvette Racing is still out there kickin porsche and ferraris ass in the le mans and the alms series
@isaiah213 Maybe you can enlighten us all and tell us where Corvette Racing finished in the championship in the ALMS. I could be wrong, but I thought BMW won, with Porsche 2nd, and Ferrari 3rd, and finally Chevrolet in 4th. At Le Mans Porsche won with Ferrari in second. If that's ass kicking your definition is different than mine.
@nkoske Come on, we all know Corvettes don't belong in GT2. As far as I'm concerned, Pratt & Miller died with GT1. That was by far and away my favorite class.
@ReedAndrewSutherland what are you talking about? Corvette has not dominated anyone in GT2, they came in fourth in the Mfg Championship in the ALMS, behind BMW, Porsche and Ferrari. May you can enlighten us all to these 'facts' you speak of?
I usually dont argue with people who do not know how to spell, but I will make an exception. One race does not mean that corvette sucks. You look at the majority of the races in ALMS and Corvette is almost always winning. To be honest, if you are so ignorant that you need me to find you proof, then you need to gtfo youtube and go to school for the mentally ill.
@ReedAndrewSutherland Seriously...search theALMS results and you'll find... Ferrari won Sebring, Salt Lake, and Mid-Ohio. Porsche won Long Beach, Laguna, Lime Rock and Mosport. BMW won Road America and Corvette won Petit Le Mans. So out of nine races in 2010 when Corvette raced GT2, CORVETTE WON ONE RACE, those are the FACTS. So once again I ask how is that dominating GT2? Winning one race is ' almost always winning'? Last time I checked 1 of 9 is not a 'majority'.
what has to be said is that in sebring 2007 the ferrari porsche battle was just racing.This is just a stupid move by Jorg,his intention was to crash the corvette win or lose and a crash that severe goes unpunished is just plain stupid by Jorg and the governing body.He should've been stripped of that win he nearly killed the damn driver putting him into the wall like that it is just ridiculous
@gone911helloWRX I think you mean oversteer. I know it's hard to tell but 'full screen' the video and go to the 1:20 mark, it's clearest to see as the video is slowed to 1/4 speed. Vette is on the brakes hard almost at the same instant the rear of the Porsche drops because he's on the gas and is oversteering because of that, not from contact. You can see an air gap of a few inches at supposed time of impact, you also don't see any scuff marks on bumper of Porsche.
its racing dudes and it was cool so im not pissed off. I like both of those teams. c6r team is doing good how magz was about to pass borg. he still got 2nd place after crashing
I think after the Corvette tried to pass the Porsche by going in the pit lane exit pissed off Jorg and when he got bumped in the back bumper on the final turn, he probably got more pissed off at the way the Corvette tries to pass the Porsche. If I were Jorg, I would feel pissed off after those two things. I might have pushed Jan but not all the way into the wall, I'll give him at least five feet. I do agree that Jorg's actions were a little over the limit.
I'm a subtle pro-vette guy but I love all the manufacturers and just like the racing in general for no particular team. Jorg didn't intentionally put him in the wall but he did tap him causing Magz to go into the wall. You can tell as Jorg dabs the brakes as soon as Magz hits the wall and Jorg was backing off then. True Jorg shouldn't have done that but Magz shouldn't have rammed into his ass in the end either. It works both ways and that's racing. Blame it on Melo at Sebring.
@frambesbuckeye What do you mean shouldn't have rammed into his ass end? He didn't ram him, he didn't even leave a mark on his bumper... it's an intentional and calculated bump not a banzai smash like you make it seem and it worked. It seems like jorg didn't like it too much he was probably gonna lose too if he didn't spin Jan off. It created a neat finish though in the end.
@jraybay Well considering it nearly sent Jorg off into the wall and it was his last ditch effort to get past him, I'd say it was ramming. Don't hit somebody and expect them not to hit back. Common sense 101.
@frambesbuckeye "nearly sent jorg off into the wall" Are you serious? He didn't even touch the rumble strip on exit, even with the bump. Jorg is a racer he knew this was a possibility. again it's a tactic, a calculated risk. I have no idea where you're coming from I don't think you do either as common sense would be not to run another guy into the wall as he could've taken himself out too, in another spectacular ending.
It's great that this replay shows it in slowmo, you can clearly see just before they tapped that Magnussen was on the brakes...you can clearly see at 0:33 that his brake lights came on and then went off. Had he not been on the brakes that contact would have surely plowed the Porsche off the track. And you usually don't intend to pass someone braking at the apex, it means Bergmeister was brake checking, or driving excessively slow through the turn on the inside (in which he deserves a bump)
@SuperColossal33 Absolutely...... It was even proven afterwards, they showed the telemetry of Mags' braking stats. He was on the brakes much earlier than on a normal lap, which only means one thing. Bergmeister was attempting to brake check Mags, in an effort to not give the Vette a good run off the final corner, thus eliminating any attempt at a "drag race" down the front straight. Bergmeister bluffed, and Magnusson called him on it. Jorg realized he F'd himself and wrecked the Vette.
@jayxer wow that's interesting, I'm glad you told me that and happy I called it right....You can just tell the Corvette is hard on the brakes mid turn, his brake lights are even on during the apex...the only conclusion is that the Porsche is brake checking...but I guess the average person just sees it and assumes the Vette is trying to bump the Porsche out of the way.
At the last corner out, corvette bumped porsche which made him stumble. I assume this was an intentional hit to make a small egde for corvette to dig into, given the defensive driving by porsche. But I consider this as a strive to win. However, what porsche did was even worse, ramming corvette into wall. Rubbing aside and ramming somebody into wall is quite different. This is kinda revenge to the bump few seconds ago. Not a good sportmanship.
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I love this more everytime i watch it. Good on ya Bergster cheap Queervette tactic on the last lap. Just can't face the fact that you were going to lose...so eat the wall Ahole!! Corvette's blow bags.
I would think Bergemiester will have to watch his back since he had done the same thing to team ferrari last year. Bergemiester is now on probation, one more time and suspension will be enforced. Get that porsche out of the way so we can see a race. Bergmeister had already passed him once two laps before. watch the whole race!
That slow ass Porsche was doing nothing but slowing him down. When he did get by he pulled away but had to let him by again. Only way the Porsche would win was by either blocking him, or crashing when he tried to pass.
If you maximize the video and really watch closely, you clearly see that Magnussen doesn't actually bump Bergmeister coming out of the last turn he does come very close within a few inches. Magnussen actually taps his brakes and thus avoided actually touching the Porsche. The Corvette clearly had the power advantage and would have easily passed the Porsche by the finish line.
You can see Bergmeister check his brakes hard when Magnussen was only a couple of feet behind. That far through the turn he should have been back on the gas. Very dirty.
Wait... Porsche has pulled a stunt like this before... ALMS at Sebring in '06 forcing Ferrari towards the wall right before finish... They can't take competition
FYI...you look like an idiot when you don't state the historical facts correctly. It was 2007 Sebring and it was the Ferrari leaning on the Porsche through the final turn. Just search Sebring 2007 and you can find the video.
WTF is the Porsche doing?!?! The Corvette is Obviously faster which means the Porsche should have enough decency to let the car pass and say hello to Competition! That's fuckin' lame, and that's not racing
well have u noticed that magnussen is pushing him in the last corner just to take him on the straight. i wouldnt let him do that neither... burgmeister lost a win in the last corner by someone doing that on him on sebring and i dont think he want to lose it like that again
Interesting Porsche won the Speed World Challenge GT manufacturers title in 2009, 2008, Cadillac won in 2007, Porsche again in 2006, Cadillac again in 2005, Audi in 2004, Audi in 2003, Porsche in 2002, Audi in 2001, Porsche in 2000, and Porsche again in 1999. If Corvette was 'dominating' Speed GT, we must have different definitions of 'dominating'. Doesn't it suck when facts get in the way of a good argument?
he did get punished they both had to sit out 3 races at the beggining of this years amls and they came back for the first time a laguna secca i was there and saw it and suprising how he won again??? its suprising how i know more and im not that old
@nkoske I know this was 8 months ago it was posted but you do know why team corvette is racing in gt2 now dont you? guess not. Close to unbeatable for the last decade in gt1 and had to detune the cars and enter gt2 so it would be more competitive.
@SuperColossal33 They have 8 ALMS Mfg Championships...and?? Although one could question the quality of their opponents over the same time. Certainly not the same quality of opponents they had this year in GT2. IMO, only 2 or 3 of those championships were had against a worthy opponent, but who's counting?
@SuperColossal33 Where did I ridicule their GT2 effort? I have tremendous respect for both Corvette Racing and P&M. They are a great team I was simply pointing out that over their 8 championships there was a lack of GT1 competition, it's not their fault but it is what happened. I realize that most Corvette fans think Sports Car racing started in 2001, but it has actually been going on for some time and there are other marques who have been much more successful.
@benmastaw00t They were both penalized 3 races for the 2010 season.... While I agree it's not enough they WERE penalized for their destruction derby...
@benmastaw00t that corvette was playing dirty since he cut the chicane and he hit the rear of the porsche so he deserves it. any way I had alot of fun watching this race, I would like all races had this "human emotion factor"
@benmastaw00t when bergmeister did this, the race was already finished. the vette bumped him, there was no need of that.. then bergmeister pulled him a bit to the wall, but unfortunatly, the vette spinned and crashed.. so i don't think that bergmeister should be punished.. imo, ofc..
Oh please corvettes are like tampons, every mother and son has one. Whats their racing history? Like 10 years lol. Its always been Ferrari, Porsche and Mercedes as the best cars in the world since racing history. Its always been like that and always will.
Yeah ... well history is made everyday !! what was done in the past is gone in the bast .... it's all about today !!! So it's Corvette all over I guess ....
Im not on anyones side here, but from how berg drove him to the wall, i wouldve thought he was just trying to take him to the wall and mag would just break off cuz he didnt want to crash, but mag was going hard and wouldnt give up. But maybe im wrong and he planned the whole thing.
best race ive ever seen i watched the hole thing. the vette was pushing the whole time and he got what was coming to him. vette was over agro and was makin bad choices the entire race and it cost him the 1st place finish. ther was plenty of time to make the pass it was a 12hr race. the fact that he wrecked is totaly his fault. end of story.
Wait, explain to me this, yes ALMS isnt NASCAR, yes the Corvettes were bumping and nudging for a small time in the event, and yes Magnusen did pass in the pit entrance, but how is pit-manuvering Magnusen any less a "NASCAR" move than bumping and nudging? Thats stupid reasoning...
You should actually watch the race... It was the Pit EXIT lane. Mag tried to bend the rules because it was a paved surface without any real divider between it and the track... It took IMSA a couple minutes to decide whether it was ok or not. Dude last lap of the last race these guys are going to trade paint... but forcing him into a wall and then executing a pit-man... that's the ultimate in douchebaggery.
Naw the compedetors are allowed at least one "move" in a race and that was the Porsche's I was watching from SCCA Tow at the time and it looked like retaliation to me from that pass and the one previous using the pit row, I dont agree with it though
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Magnusen got what he deserved. If you watched the race you see the sloppy dirty driving the Corvette's thru the entire race. This is not Nascar. If you can't make a clean pass, don't.
magnusen only bumped the porsche through the turns lightly to give himself room to pass. he could have easily spun the porsche out if he wanted to.
The cunt porsche driver purposely clipped magnusen's rear bumper after magnusen was making a fair clean pass. the porsche puposely spun the corvette out just to win the race. You do not risk someone's life by purposely crashing their car into a wall to win a race.
bergmeister is a douche and i hope he dies someday while racing. karma is a bitch!
Just the very wish that another human being dies will surely bring you some karma. There was plenty of clean racing that day. There were 30 or so other cars on the track that did not have an incident. Including the prototype winner. There are those who bump to say "I am here and and I faster...MOVE!" And those who bump with their EGO out front with intent . Mag pushed, Berg pushed back, Mag did not like it and pushed to spin. Mag could have taken the high road but did not. EGO Check!
Wishing and actually DOING something to risk another life for a car race is someone who values no one's life.
You better watch the video 10 times cuz magnussen did not push bergmeister to spin out ever. bergmeister, the douche bag cunt, PURPOSELY spun magnussen out. watch the video asshole.
May bergmeister die in 2010 before he kills someone. i may only have an empty wish, but his karma may catch up to him very soon. keep your fingers crossed!!!!
You need to drive a race car and then you'll change your perspective. Mag DID try to spin Jorg I race & can assure you that Mag applied throttle entering the corner knowing perfectly well what he wanted to do. Its a well known move Upset the rear of the car in front of you while it is changing direction & it takes no more than a simple tap to spin the car.
If he had no intention of spinning him & taking an undeserved win, he would have still been on the brakes at that point.
You are full of shit so deep!!! They go through the last LEFT hand turn which would pulls both cars to the RIGHT. magnussen makes a clean pass to the LEFT while bergmeister runs him to the wall on the LEFT. As magnussen passes berg, berg clips his right rear bumper and brakes spinning mag out and into the RIGHT wall.. For anyone to cheer on what berg did is a real piece of shit.
nate240z just told u off. it hasnt even been a decade and the vettes raced no one really in gt1 they only had the aston martin drayson racing pretty much all last year in 2008 to beat and the start of 2009 of course there going to dominate theyre racing each other the teamates.
Corvette racing is leaving GT1 because they've creamed all their competition including their closest competitor prodrive ferrari for almost a decade. They are moving to GT2 for more competition. They will dominate GT2 in 2010 and for another decade or more until the competition leaves again
You have no clue what the C5R has done in GT1 nor do you know which factory teams they have dismantled. If it's ignorance, then you can learn. If you know the facts but remain ignorant then you're a CUNT!!!
nah, i looked at that closely on the broadcast on TV. It's just a pit-info sign that happened to light up with the words "PATRON 2009 CHAMPS" just as the crash happened. Kind of screwy that the words are a yellow color.
Scoopnazi... you are clueless. GT1 has only exsited since 2005 and ALMS since 1999... a decade. The ONLY year the Corvettes did win their class (before GT1 it was GTS) was 2001 when the Saleen S7R won GTS. And midseason this year the Corvettes moved from GT1 to GT2 to prep for next year when GT1 disappears, so they had no chance of a class win in either group. Get a clue and do your research before posting your "nazi" propaganda... I have to assume you root for Berg since he's a German.
Corvette Won
gamepower321 6 months ago
So who has been winning in that class since the C5R was introduced?
mackc6r 7 months ago
Porsche can have that win. C6R owns at the 24 hrs of LeMans.
aqinthe 8 months ago
@deezomaxima Bergmeister is NOT an ass. Magnussen bumped Bergmeister coming off the hairpin to lose him up.
In 2007, Melo used his Ferrari to push Berg's Porsche into the wall causing Berg to lose the GT2 cup.
Berg was not going to get pushed aside again.
operationcwaI789789 10 months ago
further proof that mexicans cant drive better suited for running across borders
neuregel 10 months ago
The Corvette did not touch the Porsche ,and even if it did, it was so minor. The Porsche driver overreacted and something really bad could have happened to the Corvette driver. I would have DQ'ed that Porsche driver.
VrOOm1337 10 months ago
What did the officials have to say about the crash?
I know Magnussen shortcutted the track by using the pit out lane before the first turn acouple laps before this incident, which allowed him to pass Bergmeister on the inside. I laughed when that happened. It was a very interesting manuever. The officials didn't like it, though, and Magnussen was forced to give up his position back to Bergmeister.
stupidstormy36 11 months ago
You're all forgetting that the entire last 5 minutes of the race the Vette had his high beams on, repetitively forced the Porsche of his racing line, and cut a corner of the course to try and get ahead. The entire time that Porsche did nothing to try and sabotage the Vette's efforts. That was his only retaliation, and it appears to me that he was mostly just defending his position. The vette's mistake was trying to force his way through anyways. He deserves that win.
jreynoldswrap 11 months ago
Everyone is just too eager to bash Americans the don't even take the time to research what the say! American aren't bad people. It's a great place to live. If not why does everyone want to live here?
benjenings 11 months ago
@benjenings I live in Sonoma California and Flying lizard is based here at sears point raceway and it's operated by AMERICANS LMAO
STEFAN23744 11 months ago
@STEFAN23744 who care where you live..i know where sears point raceway is and yes its operated by Americans. Why are you telling me this?? Everyone knows this.. All i sad is the driver of the vette is from Denmark. Jan Magnussen.. dude read a little before commenting next time. You totally missed the mark.
benjenings 11 months ago
@benjenings you missed my mark mark
STEFAN23744 11 months ago
@STEFAN23744 what ever ever..lol
benjenings 11 months ago
@STEFAN23744 LMAO ha ha ha ha ha funny look whos winning in points now LMAO
STEFAN23744 11 months ago
Xxrodneyxx. Your an idiot. It wasn't even an American driver in the car.
benjenings 11 months ago
@benjenings Correct last time I check it was Jan Magnussen Driving the Vette and if I'm not mistaken he's Danish. @xxrodneyxx Once again...you look like an idiot when you don't state the historical facts correctly
nkoske 11 months ago
American car and American driver = no class.
xxrodneyxx 11 months ago
Moral of the story, don't fuck with the Germans we know what they can do...
rock3tcat 1 year ago 3
Worth watching just to see a Corvette get smashed.
autofixation 1 year ago
@autofixation
I'm glad someone said it. :D
rock3tcat 1 year ago
stupid idiot way over did it it was just a bump. drove him all the way into the wall, wrecked him, what if vette man died he would have re thought that dum move.
quincywisner1 1 year ago
I kinda feel bad for the corvette driver, he bumped into the Porsche by accident, the Porsche braked a little harder than he expected and he hit him. What the Porsche driver did was a blatant move to wreck the corvette. But that's racing I guess...
PSNBOB580 1 year ago
If I learned anything from driving a race car its that if you bump someone out of your way make sure you do it hard enough so they don't get a chance to do the same back to you.
psi2hi 1 year ago
I think the misunderstanding stems from a few people here not realizing a) the distinction between GT1 and GT2 and b) the fact that the end of the 2009 season, which closed with this race, saw Corvette switch from GT1 (where they always won because they had no competition, especially after Aston left) to GT2, where they have earned only one class victory in two seasons (which was mostly due to bad gas-math by Risi).
markthumphrey 1 year ago
corvett pushed the porsche then he pushed back ....thats racing
kongman27 1 year ago
@kongman27 No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he *rubbed* you. And rubbin, son, is racin'.
markthumphrey 1 year ago
Nice move and very nice race, and I love Bernoulli xD And admit it, europeans make better cars ;)
razersmb 1 year ago
that was some dirty driving by the porsche that guy knew the corvette was gonna pass him for the win so he spins him into the wall and wins. other than that Corvette Racing is still out there kickin porsche and ferraris ass in the le mans and the alms series
isaiah213 1 year ago
@isaiah213 Maybe you can enlighten us all and tell us where Corvette Racing finished in the championship in the ALMS. I could be wrong, but I thought BMW won, with Porsche 2nd, and Ferrari 3rd, and finally Chevrolet in 4th. At Le Mans Porsche won with Ferrari in second. If that's ass kicking your definition is different than mine.
nkoske 1 year ago 5
@nkoske Come on, we all know Corvettes don't belong in GT2. As far as I'm concerned, Pratt & Miller died with GT1. That was by far and away my favorite class.
NR92CP 1 year ago
@nkoske @ISAIAH213: OWN3D!
etxxz 1 year ago
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heliscat 1 year ago
@nkoske is that why Corvette dominates the gt2? Learn your facts before posting bullshit.
ReedAndrewSutherland 1 year ago
@ReedAndrewSutherland what are you talking about? Corvette has not dominated anyone in GT2, they came in fourth in the Mfg Championship in the ALMS, behind BMW, Porsche and Ferrari. May you can enlighten us all to these 'facts' you speak of?
nkoske 1 year ago
@nkoske
I usually dont argue with people who do not know how to spell, but I will make an exception. One race does not mean that corvette sucks. You look at the majority of the races in ALMS and Corvette is almost always winning. To be honest, if you are so ignorant that you need me to find you proof, then you need to gtfo youtube and go to school for the mentally ill.
ReedAndrewSutherland 1 year ago
@ReedAndrewSutherland Seriously...search theALMS results and you'll find... Ferrari won Sebring, Salt Lake, and Mid-Ohio. Porsche won Long Beach, Laguna, Lime Rock and Mosport. BMW won Road America and Corvette won Petit Le Mans. So out of nine races in 2010 when Corvette raced GT2, CORVETTE WON ONE RACE, those are the FACTS. So once again I ask how is that dominating GT2? Winning one race is ' almost always winning'? Last time I checked 1 of 9 is not a 'majority'.
nkoske 1 year ago
@isaiah213
Oooh shit you just got served... xD
rock3tcat 1 year ago
To me it 's not really Chevy vs Porsche, but a great battle between two men... the ending was unfair, but so is life; thats racing!!
mat355 1 year ago
what has to be said is that in sebring 2007 the ferrari porsche battle was just racing.This is just a stupid move by Jorg,his intention was to crash the corvette win or lose and a crash that severe goes unpunished is just plain stupid by Jorg and the governing body.He should've been stripped of that win he nearly killed the damn driver putting him into the wall like that it is just ridiculous
assassin72 1 year ago
I was there
mackc6r 1 year ago
SURE at the end: Porsche raped and kicked POS garbage junk chevy crashing and burning to the curb
12345tubie 1 year ago
I remember watching this live...
chadt4 1 year ago
wooooooooooow the drive Porsche911 very bad good night corvette *_*
hmto942 1 year ago
I would have done that move doesn't mean its right
spazracing94 1 year ago
@gone911helloWRX I think you mean oversteer. I know it's hard to tell but 'full screen' the video and go to the 1:20 mark, it's clearest to see as the video is slowed to 1/4 speed. Vette is on the brakes hard almost at the same instant the rear of the Porsche drops because he's on the gas and is oversteering because of that, not from contact. You can see an air gap of a few inches at supposed time of impact, you also don't see any scuff marks on bumper of Porsche.
mediaghost 1 year ago 2
its racing dudes and it was cool so im not pissed off. I like both of those teams. c6r team is doing good how magz was about to pass borg. he still got 2nd place after crashing
moiv8 1 year ago
Bergmeister is an ass, I would have kick his ass if this BS happened to me,
Rubbinig is racing but...
Running some one into wall and almost killing him is retarded.
FUCK Porsche! Jorg Bergmeister is a PRICK
Plus they made a decision to give him the lead back for a late call on penalty.
He is a piece of EURO SHIT
iconscott08 1 year ago
"Mom, he hit me back."
bendphoto 1 year ago
what an idiot that guy in the porsche is. thats amazing how stupid people can be. even on the track.
Comicon22 1 year ago
@Comicon22 did you see the race? I can tell you that porsche wasn't the only one that hit
carl206rc 1 year ago
I think after the Corvette tried to pass the Porsche by going in the pit lane exit pissed off Jorg and when he got bumped in the back bumper on the final turn, he probably got more pissed off at the way the Corvette tries to pass the Porsche. If I were Jorg, I would feel pissed off after those two things. I might have pushed Jan but not all the way into the wall, I'll give him at least five feet. I do agree that Jorg's actions were a little over the limit.
leylandcarsloverslea 1 year ago 2
Don't mess with the BERGMEISTER ^^
Edumasta 1 year ago 2
@Edumasta Right! Just pull his ticket! Sit and watch...
F8F77 1 year ago
IN THE FACE!!! IN THE FAAACE!!!
thepill1978 1 year ago
I'm a subtle pro-vette guy but I love all the manufacturers and just like the racing in general for no particular team. Jorg didn't intentionally put him in the wall but he did tap him causing Magz to go into the wall. You can tell as Jorg dabs the brakes as soon as Magz hits the wall and Jorg was backing off then. True Jorg shouldn't have done that but Magz shouldn't have rammed into his ass in the end either. It works both ways and that's racing. Blame it on Melo at Sebring.
frambesbuckeye 1 year ago 2
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haha yeah that was sick at sebring
moiv8 1 year ago
@frambesbuckeye What do you mean shouldn't have rammed into his ass end? He didn't ram him, he didn't even leave a mark on his bumper... it's an intentional and calculated bump not a banzai smash like you make it seem and it worked. It seems like jorg didn't like it too much he was probably gonna lose too if he didn't spin Jan off. It created a neat finish though in the end.
jraybay 1 month ago
@jraybay Well considering it nearly sent Jorg off into the wall and it was his last ditch effort to get past him, I'd say it was ramming. Don't hit somebody and expect them not to hit back. Common sense 101.
frambesbuckeye 1 month ago
@frambesbuckeye "nearly sent jorg off into the wall" Are you serious? He didn't even touch the rumble strip on exit, even with the bump. Jorg is a racer he knew this was a possibility. again it's a tactic, a calculated risk. I have no idea where you're coming from I don't think you do either as common sense would be not to run another guy into the wall as he could've taken himself out too, in another spectacular ending.
jraybay 1 month ago
@frambesbuckeye Please don't make up things to suit your belief.
jraybay 1 month ago
This is what racing is about good rivalries
tttechart 1 year ago
It's great that this replay shows it in slowmo, you can clearly see just before they tapped that Magnussen was on the brakes...you can clearly see at 0:33 that his brake lights came on and then went off. Had he not been on the brakes that contact would have surely plowed the Porsche off the track. And you usually don't intend to pass someone braking at the apex, it means Bergmeister was brake checking, or driving excessively slow through the turn on the inside (in which he deserves a bump)
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
@SuperColossal33 Absolutely...... It was even proven afterwards, they showed the telemetry of Mags' braking stats. He was on the brakes much earlier than on a normal lap, which only means one thing. Bergmeister was attempting to brake check Mags, in an effort to not give the Vette a good run off the final corner, thus eliminating any attempt at a "drag race" down the front straight. Bergmeister bluffed, and Magnusson called him on it. Jorg realized he F'd himself and wrecked the Vette.
jayxer 1 year ago
@jayxer wow that's interesting, I'm glad you told me that and happy I called it right....You can just tell the Corvette is hard on the brakes mid turn, his brake lights are even on during the apex...the only conclusion is that the Porsche is brake checking...but I guess the average person just sees it and assumes the Vette is trying to bump the Porsche out of the way.
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
hahaa exciting
david13az 2 years ago
At the last corner out, corvette bumped porsche which made him stumble. I assume this was an intentional hit to make a small egde for corvette to dig into, given the defensive driving by porsche. But I consider this as a strive to win. However, what porsche did was even worse, ramming corvette into wall. Rubbing aside and ramming somebody into wall is quite different. This is kinda revenge to the bump few seconds ago. Not a good sportmanship.
pennoo 2 years ago
F that C6R, he tapped him at the wrong time to get around. Although, I don't think RSR should have slapped him into the wall.
eurokentdub 2 years ago
a lot of emotions!
19144taxdebtrelief27 2 years ago
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plus the Porsche hit his brakes to hard to try to upset the Vett out of the corner
rigd49 2 years ago
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rigd49 2 years ago
The Porsche pushed the Vett in the wall.Black Flag the Porsche
rigd49 2 years ago
when they are doing the last turn, corvette hit the rear bumper of the porsche, fuck ya vette
Hasseta 2 years ago
wow he was like hell no nigga.. melo did that shit to me and this is wat i was gonna do if he did it again
showetime 2 years ago 2
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I love this more everytime i watch it. Good on ya Bergster cheap Queervette tactic on the last lap. Just can't face the fact that you were going to lose...so eat the wall Ahole!! Corvette's blow bags.
eieif 2 years ago
I would think Bergemiester will have to watch his back since he had done the same thing to team ferrari last year. Bergemiester is now on probation, one more time and suspension will be enforced. Get that porsche out of the way so we can see a race. Bergmeister had already passed him once two laps before. watch the whole race!
kippfan37 2 years ago
That slow ass Porsche was doing nothing but slowing him down. When he did get by he pulled away but had to let him by again. Only way the Porsche would win was by either blocking him, or crashing when he tried to pass.
TEFLONTHADON 2 years ago
Thanks, at least someone sees this right!
kippfan37 2 years ago
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KristianHerner 2 years ago
no actual connection so bergemeisters a penis. watch it on the quarter and ul cu wot imean
martynhenrystyles 2 years ago 3
ha thts sum thing id do on my playstation lol
if i got ramed from behind like tht id freakn waste him2 stuff tht vette
but if it was nfs shift id go for the dirty pass points ;)
nataslider 2 years ago
Can you translate that into normal English?
segovian 2 years ago
clear as mud buddy wot ya on about ??
sumthing wrong with ya??
lacking in IQ maybe...
nataslider 2 years ago
Bergmeister is an ass.
deezomaxima 2 years ago 7
he deserved it he was bumping him are u blind????
TheNoni14 1 year ago
@TheNoni14 Am I blind? No, I'm not. I think you're the one that's blind. That "bump' from behind wasn't on purpose newb.
deezomaxima 1 year ago
If you maximize the video and really watch closely, you clearly see that Magnussen doesn't actually bump Bergmeister coming out of the last turn he does come very close within a few inches. Magnussen actually taps his brakes and thus avoided actually touching the Porsche. The Corvette clearly had the power advantage and would have easily passed the Porsche by the finish line.
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MS3Fred 2 years ago
You can see Bergmeister check his brakes hard when Magnussen was only a couple of feet behind. That far through the turn he should have been back on the gas. Very dirty.
fastindy 2 years ago 7
Wait... Porsche has pulled a stunt like this before... ALMS at Sebring in '06 forcing Ferrari towards the wall right before finish... They can't take competition
CobraMarty 2 years ago
FYI...you look like an idiot when you don't state the historical facts correctly. It was 2007 Sebring and it was the Ferrari leaning on the Porsche through the final turn. Just search Sebring 2007 and you can find the video.
nkoske 2 years ago 16
WTF is the Porsche doing?!?! The Corvette is Obviously faster which means the Porsche should have enough decency to let the car pass and say hello to Competition! That's fuckin' lame, and that's not racing
CobraMarty 2 years ago 2
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fuck gm they suck and the last 4 laps of that race gm team was tryin dirty anyway and thet cutt the to pass.
0spaceboy 2 years ago
youlance29. I'm doing the same for you. Envious for Porsche wins???
Dario911rs 2 years ago
let's pray together and see who's next.
God bless.
youlance29 2 years ago
that was a completely unacceptable move by Jorg Bergmeister, and I am surprised he hasn't been punished for that.
and Viper, did you forget that the Corvette was dominating in other racing series other than Le Mans? Speed GT Challenge, Trans Am series, etc.
Before you get your Porsche branded panties in a bunch, do have a clearer perspective on things, thanks!
benmastaw00t 2 years ago
well have u noticed that magnussen is pushing him in the last corner just to take him on the straight. i wouldnt let him do that neither... burgmeister lost a win in the last corner by someone doing that on him on sebring and i dont think he want to lose it like that again
makvarochapollo 2 years ago
You know why? Because it's Porsche. If you remember, Ferrari and Porsche cried about vettes having direct Injection...
I bet 1000 $ if Corvette did that they would have been punished for that.
CobraMarty 2 years ago
Interesting Porsche won the Speed World Challenge GT manufacturers title in 2009, 2008, Cadillac won in 2007, Porsche again in 2006, Cadillac again in 2005, Audi in 2004, Audi in 2003, Porsche in 2002, Audi in 2001, Porsche in 2000, and Porsche again in 1999. If Corvette was 'dominating' Speed GT, we must have different definitions of 'dominating'. Doesn't it suck when facts get in the way of a good argument?
nkoske 2 years ago 23
See le mans circuit dela sarthe, U dumbass. Who won they?
Thats right C6-R
melvinifudu 2 years ago 3
@nkoske Yes it most certainly does however comma I would have beaten the driver of the porsche into a pulp if I were the one in the corvette
YdontUask 1 year ago
he did get punished they both had to sit out 3 races at the beggining of this years amls and they came back for the first time a laguna secca i was there and saw it and suprising how he won again??? its suprising how i know more and im not that old
TheNoni14 1 year ago
@nkoske I know this was 8 months ago it was posted but you do know why team corvette is racing in gt2 now dont you? guess not. Close to unbeatable for the last decade in gt1 and had to detune the cars and enter gt2 so it would be more competitive.
pokesmot3475 1 year ago
@nkoske Would you care to tell me how many GT1 championships Corvette has?
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
@SuperColossal33 They have 8 ALMS Mfg Championships...and?? Although one could question the quality of their opponents over the same time. Certainly not the same quality of opponents they had this year in GT2. IMO, only 2 or 3 of those championships were had against a worthy opponent, but who's counting?
nkoske 1 year ago
@nkoske then perhaps we can give them more than 1 full season in GT2 before we ridicule them for losing to teams that have been there for years.
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
@SuperColossal33 Where did I ridicule their GT2 effort? I have tremendous respect for both Corvette Racing and P&M. They are a great team I was simply pointing out that over their 8 championships there was a lack of GT1 competition, it's not their fault but it is what happened. I realize that most Corvette fans think Sports Car racing started in 2001, but it has actually been going on for some time and there are other marques who have been much more successful.
nkoske 1 year ago
@nkoske fair enough
GT2 racing imo is the best in the world now, can't wait for Lamborghini next year, and the Riley + Radical LMP's
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
@nkoske Well said...
ecotts 1 year ago
@benmastaw00t They were both penalized 3 races for the 2010 season.... While I agree it's not enough they WERE penalized for their destruction derby...
Muddy79Ford 1 year ago
@benmastaw00t that corvette was playing dirty since he cut the chicane and he hit the rear of the porsche so he deserves it. any way I had alot of fun watching this race, I would like all races had this "human emotion factor"
carl206rc 1 year ago
thank you your the only one that has seen it other than me everyone is retarted
TheNoni14 1 year ago
@benmastaw00t Youre a dumbass. Do you know anything about racing history?
DJVBasil 1 year ago
@benmastaw00t when bergmeister did this, the race was already finished. the vette bumped him, there was no need of that.. then bergmeister pulled him a bit to the wall, but unfortunatly, the vette spinned and crashed.. so i don't think that bergmeister should be punished.. imo, ofc..
PIVfdx 1 year ago
so true - the corvett dove into bergmeister trying to put him out.
it could have been the 45 spinning out but it ended up being the vett.
elstroky 1 year ago
Oh please corvettes are like tampons, every mother and son has one. Whats their racing history? Like 10 years lol. Its always been Ferrari, Porsche and Mercedes as the best cars in the world since racing history. Its always been like that and always will.
viper4490 2 years ago
Yeah ... well history is made everyday !! what was done in the past is gone in the bast .... it's all about today !!! So it's Corvette all over I guess ....
you2448 2 years ago
lol c wat happens wen u mess with a gt2
you dnt fckin mess wiv a gt2
btw RIP vette
aatishporsche 2 years ago
Oh, dear, your broken asshole and your brain are dead, yet. Hope all the rest will follow them... little loser!
Dario911rs 2 years ago
i will pray for you and bergmeister to leave this earth soon.
God bless.
youlance29 2 years ago
youlance29 you are only a mere broken wc, full of shit. Keep silent, you make a courtesy to yourself.
Be careful don't be the first to die...
Dario911rs 2 years ago
hey asshole, hope you die before bergercunt!
youlance29 2 years ago
sorry for the vette
buzaidGT 2 years ago
Im not on anyones side here, but from how berg drove him to the wall, i wouldve thought he was just trying to take him to the wall and mag would just break off cuz he didnt want to crash, but mag was going hard and wouldnt give up. But maybe im wrong and he planned the whole thing.
metamuse42 2 years ago
best race ive ever seen i watched the hole thing. the vette was pushing the whole time and he got what was coming to him. vette was over agro and was makin bad choices the entire race and it cost him the 1st place finish. ther was plenty of time to make the pass it was a 12hr race. the fact that he wrecked is totaly his fault. end of story.
kdoeone 2 years ago
Wait, explain to me this, yes ALMS isnt NASCAR, yes the Corvettes were bumping and nudging for a small time in the event, and yes Magnusen did pass in the pit entrance, but how is pit-manuvering Magnusen any less a "NASCAR" move than bumping and nudging? Thats stupid reasoning...
Muddy79Ford 2 years ago
You should actually watch the race... It was the Pit EXIT lane. Mag tried to bend the rules because it was a paved surface without any real divider between it and the track... It took IMSA a couple minutes to decide whether it was ok or not. Dude last lap of the last race these guys are going to trade paint... but forcing him into a wall and then executing a pit-man... that's the ultimate in douchebaggery.
nate240z 2 years ago 5
too true...Bergemeister is such a douchebag.
Can't belive he got away with it..
XU10J4TE 2 years ago 5
He did that to Ferrari in 2008 at Sebring. Glad his ass lost that race.
deezomaxima 2 years ago
Naw the compedetors are allowed at least one "move" in a race and that was the Porsche's I was watching from SCCA Tow at the time and it looked like retaliation to me from that pass and the one previous using the pit row, I dont agree with it though
Muddy79Ford 2 years ago
I would have done the same thing
Wildspeed911 2 years ago 2
'Vette got owned (literally) by Porsche XD
p4t0p3p3 2 years ago
Hopefully "Joerg Bergmeister" has been banned from ever getting into a racecar ever again
thesimracer 2 years ago 2
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Magnusen got what he deserved. If you watched the race you see the sloppy dirty driving the Corvette's thru the entire race. This is not Nascar. If you can't make a clean pass, don't.
scoopnazi 2 years ago
magnusen only bumped the porsche through the turns lightly to give himself room to pass. he could have easily spun the porsche out if he wanted to.
The cunt porsche driver purposely clipped magnusen's rear bumper after magnusen was making a fair clean pass. the porsche puposely spun the corvette out just to win the race. You do not risk someone's life by purposely crashing their car into a wall to win a race.
bergmeister is a douche and i hope he dies someday while racing. karma is a bitch!
youlance29 2 years ago 2
Just the very wish that another human being dies will surely bring you some karma. There was plenty of clean racing that day. There were 30 or so other cars on the track that did not have an incident. Including the prototype winner. There are those who bump to say "I am here and and I faster...MOVE!" And those who bump with their EGO out front with intent . Mag pushed, Berg pushed back, Mag did not like it and pushed to spin. Mag could have taken the high road but did not. EGO Check!
inverterman12 2 years ago
Wishing and actually DOING something to risk another life for a car race is someone who values no one's life.
You better watch the video 10 times cuz magnussen did not push bergmeister to spin out ever. bergmeister, the douche bag cunt, PURPOSELY spun magnussen out. watch the video asshole.
May bergmeister die in 2010 before he kills someone. i may only have an empty wish, but his karma may catch up to him very soon. keep your fingers crossed!!!!
youlance29 2 years ago
You need to drive a race car and then you'll change your perspective. Mag DID try to spin Jorg I race & can assure you that Mag applied throttle entering the corner knowing perfectly well what he wanted to do. Its a well known move Upset the rear of the car in front of you while it is changing direction & it takes no more than a simple tap to spin the car.
If he had no intention of spinning him & taking an undeserved win, he would have still been on the brakes at that point.
scoopnazi 2 years ago
You are full of shit so deep!!! They go through the last LEFT hand turn which would pulls both cars to the RIGHT. magnussen makes a clean pass to the LEFT while bergmeister runs him to the wall on the LEFT. As magnussen passes berg, berg clips his right rear bumper and brakes spinning mag out and into the RIGHT wall.. For anyone to cheer on what berg did is a real piece of shit.
YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT!!! FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!!
BERGMEISTER MUST DIE!
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jack555doe 2 years ago
nate240z just told u off. it hasnt even been a decade and the vettes raced no one really in gt1 they only had the aston martin drayson racing pretty much all last year in 2008 to beat and the start of 2009 of course there going to dominate theyre racing each other the teamates.
AudiAlmsDontMess 2 years ago
Corvette racing is leaving GT1 because they've creamed all their competition including their closest competitor prodrive ferrari for almost a decade. They are moving to GT2 for more competition. They will dominate GT2 in 2010 and for another decade or more until the competition leaves again
You have no clue what the C5R has done in GT1 nor do you know which factory teams they have dismantled. If it's ignorance, then you can learn. If you know the facts but remain ignorant then you're a CUNT!!!
youlance29 2 years ago 6
I judge each incident seperately. Revenge isn't an excuse for running someone into a wall.
thesimracer 2 years ago 2
porsche did him dirty by running him into the wall..
giuseppeho 2 years ago
That wasn't the yellow coming on before the Corvette wrecked was it? If so, I think he won.
thrashed22 2 years ago
nah, i looked at that closely on the broadcast on TV. It's just a pit-info sign that happened to light up with the words "PATRON 2009 CHAMPS" just as the crash happened. Kind of screwy that the words are a yellow color.
ProjectVIN 2 years ago
The vettes r going to keep getting raped nxt year just like they have been and im sure jan learned his lesson from this race.
AudiAlmsDontMess 2 years ago
How will the vettes get raped? C5R/C6R has dominated GT1 for almost a decade and will dominate GT2 for another decade.
youlance29 2 years ago 2
Dominated?????
Surely you must be forgetting the Aston Martin's. Corvette "dominated" only when they were the only cars in GT1.
scoopnazi 2 years ago
Scoopnazi... you are clueless. GT1 has only exsited since 2005 and ALMS since 1999... a decade. The ONLY year the Corvettes did win their class (before GT1 it was GTS) was 2001 when the Saleen S7R won GTS. And midseason this year the Corvettes moved from GT1 to GT2 to prep for next year when GT1 disappears, so they had no chance of a class win in either group. Get a clue and do your research before posting your "nazi" propaganda... I have to assume you root for Berg since he's a German.
nate240z 2 years ago 4
youlance29 has no clue what he is talking about.
AudiAlmsDontMess 2 years ago
Yes you always have next year but NOT this one!
kilodawg 2 years ago
yeah flying lizard is going to get raped next year
josh4824 2 years ago 4