Press Conference: Julia Gillard, Nicola Roxon & Simon Crean on Regional Hospital Reform

[sorrow962]

Why doesnt this ROXON joke just piss off and stop telling us how to live our lives. ROXON I am fucking broke,,,yet I work my balls off, the only thing I got is my smokes you egotistical no brained halfwit. Stop punishing the working class you arsehole. And fuck the fuck off and but out of our lives.

[meakd]

lying bitch

[wellwellwellall]

hence why i say there are both extreme left and right elements infiltrated in our"apparent democratic" govts of the world

[wellwellwellall]

ffs. this world is full of smoking screens. this insurance scheme is prob forcast to be funded by the carbon tax. so it goes to show the govt sover the lasr few decades have been bought out by crooked multinationals

[wellwellwellall]

omg finally!!!! thanks

[adamb20102010]

repent labor, that is all

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 of what? having a strong policy direction, passing every bill they've tabled in parliament since being elected, facing the most hostile opposition in history and remaining strong in the face of that, supporting jobs, etc,? there is a really odd disconnect in our community with regard to this government.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles No, you will find that you and the labor government are the ones "oddly disconnected" as you put it. Labor is at record low levels of support, the rank and file are running a mile. Doesnt matter who you vote for, people dont like being lied to and they can see this governement is completely depraved and self interested. The approaching Wormwood star is causing most of the "climate change" thats why I suggest you and the authors of this video repent, while you still have a chance.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 The 'record low' doesn't really illustrate a long-term problem as you would suggest. John Howard was in this position prior to the (if memory serves correct) 2001 election - similarly to where Gillard is now in terms of public support - and everyone expected Beazley was going to be PM. But fortunes changed.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 If this Government is so self interested then why is it risking it's own skin to engage in multiple major economic reforms of a generation to ensure that we continue to have a first-rate economy into the future? If you want to talk about self-interest take a LONG, HARD look at the current Opposition. They don't even hold this Government to account because they're too busy playing petty games trying to bring it down. THAT is self interest.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles Opposition Party, who cares? Its Labor who are in government! Theyre self interested b/c Bill Shorten and his mates knifed Kevin, to put in Julia. Self interested b/c Bill Shortens Mother in Law is the Governor General, the one person who has the power to sack this governmment if they lose support. Self interested b/c the only reason there is a Carbon Dioxide tax is b/c theonly way the gained power was to sign a deal with Bob Brown who is dictating policy to this Prime Minister,

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 Kevin. Was. Not. Knifed. Let that but stated simply and clearly. He lost the confidence of caucus. Labor is a democratic party and the Leader doesn't get determined by the ambitions of one or two people (JG & Shorten as you suggest) ... the Governor-General cannot just 'sack' the Government due to polling so don't know where you got that idea. We still would have got an ETS if Labor was governing in majority, so I don't really understand your point there...

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 And do remember that this is the Parliament that Australians voted for - the situation was either the Green & Independents went with Labor or the LNP. Labor won those negotiations because Julia was the better negotiator and the better option in those democratically elected MPs eyes. You have no good reason to say this Government is 'self interested', you're just presenting irrelevant crap. The G-G still has Constitutional responsibilities.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 And to say that Bob Brown is dictating the carbon pricing scheme to this Government is also just ridiculous. I suggest you look at the Greens policy on climate change and see just HOW LITTLE of the Gillard Government's carbon price package is the same. It's a Labor scheme with some influence from Greens policy (but far from the bulk of it). Either 'side' had to gain power by negotiation, and it was Labor that won those negotiations.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles Yeah sorry, its partly Bob Brown, partly United Nations. This is actually unconstitutional/treason for our Government to surrender funds/authority to a foreign power.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 Oh. Right. That comment just illustrated everything I need to know about this conversation. It isn't one. You're coming from a deliberative 'conspiracy agenda' point-of-view and for that reason I'm not going to entertain our chat any further.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles Conspiracy? Revenue from the Carbon Dioxide tax will be paid to the United Nations, the government has confirmed this, Wayne Swan is on record stating it in question time, when asked by Julie Bishop. You are as ignorant as the government you support, but I admire your tenancious defence of, and loyalty/allegiance to, a party who would stab you in the back, and play you for a fool.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 That's correct. There is no denial that some of the emission reduction abatement will be sought through the United Nations carbon credit system, etc,. It is not revenue payment in and of itself but the purchase of a genuine product. It is an investment. The conspiracy element is in you suggesting that it is treasonous/unconstitutional for Government to spend in such a way and also the clear intention to invoke fear that our Government is involved with the UN.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 I am not aware of the Labor party that would 'stab' me in the 'back'. I'm aware of a party with long-term policies to take our nation to a more prosperous future. You can spin a response to that as much as you want but the policies are there and the outcome of them is clear. Stop making this an issue of personalities and slogans. There is much more at stake.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles You continue to say that I "suggest" things, which demonstrates that you, and not I are the one who is the master of spin. I could argue facts with you forever, it becomes like banging ones head against the wall, I hope you come to the knowledge of the truth, the time is short. Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

[brentoneccles]

@adamb20102010 But you're not arguing facts. You're suggesting something is treasonous when it is not. Have fun with the rest of all -that-.

[adamb20102010]

@brentoneccles This is the only fact you need concern yourself with, as your life depends on it:

Mar 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

[Karkistoss]

@adamb20102010 My crazy meter just went off the scale reading your comments about global warming being caused by the approach of the Wormwood star... I'm having trouble coming to terms with the fact that anyone actually believes that. Then you're quoting scripture as if it's relevant to the discussion (or anything at all in the 21st century). The nail in the coffin is that you present rhetoric as fact, and discount the actual proven, statistical and widely available facts as political "spin".

[adamb20102010]

@Karkistoss Pro 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

[Karkistoss]

@adamb20102010 It's funny because you're quoting scripture at me as if I should be frightened or something. It is not relevant to me. I don't follow your faith or believe that a bunch of phrases written thousands of years ago by a bunch of different people and taken out of context are anything to base my moral code off, or attempt to frighten other people into submission with.

[Karkistoss]

@adamb20102010 It's also funny that you no doubt assume you're the better person out of the two of us, despite the fact that you preach hatred and intolerance, and are attempting to frighten people who have differing views to yours because they pointed out the logical flaws in your beliefs about the world and our government. I don't know whether to believe if you're serious or not. Someone like you must surely be masquerading a charade for the purpose of comedy.

[adamb20102010]

@Karkistoss Thanks for your comments Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 

[Karkistoss]

@adamb20102010 Ok, it's pretty clear to me now that you have nothing to say except what you've been spoon fed by a book. I see no reason to continue this exchange beyond this.

[adamb20102010]

@Karkistoss Pro 17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

Pro 15:32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.