The Cosmic Road Map of the Virtual Universe

[art371]

First off it's not called "alice". It's "atlas "

Second your not smashing electrons it's "protons". You need more reserching to back up what your trying to convey.

Please study first before you speak.

[TFCTILIDIE]

@art371 Hey try not to be such condescending dick, nobody's perfect.

from wikipedia: "ALICE (A Large Ion Collider Experiment) is one of the six detector experiments at the Large Hadron Collider at CERN. The other five are: ATLAS, CMS, TOTEM, LHCb, and LHCf."

[likoly]

could be interesting but the background music is absurd when you try to communicate a complex idea, i start to get the vision of a pot smoking idiot.

dont waste my time!

[polljk]

hmm.. good idea..

same concept of having a computer outside our excistance collecting information, switched to a smaller scale.. for i guessing the split second it excists.. we'll get a snapshot of it all.

but...

no one see a problem with creating a universe within a universe?

like with the atom bomb, could the reaction continue untill excistance is fried?

especially involving a "god particle" thats part of everything.

*shudder*.. a particle colliding bomb..

[KathrynCassidycom]

Very interesting. Think you'll find it's had-ron (hadron)not Hy-dron! Get what you are trying to convey though.

[addictfan]

what i truly dont undertsand is if the universe was one small thing that exploded in itself, then why are they takin 2 seperate cluster of particles and colliding them? wouldnt that debunk the big bang theory in the sense that they say the universe was one thing and not 2 that collided? maybe the universe began by a singularity of energy and mass colliding. o also u said they are colliding electrons, its actually protons that have electrons taken out. just thought id clear that up.

[StevenErnest]

Actually, there is a theory of 2 things colliding and creating the universe in a Big Bang. Look into M-Theory. M for Membrane. This involves 2 universes exploding. A metaphor is the membranes are like 2 sheets hanging parallel on a clothesline; at some point in the middle they touch, and Big Bang -- our universe. This is a theory; not all astrophysicists accept it.

[addictfan]

o yea i remember that theory. alot of theorys these days are really brand new. im waiting for the theory that explains why electro magnetism is so strong compared to gravity. or why every galaxy has a black hole in the middle of it. well if the m theory is right, that will open a whole new bag of mysteries. i wonder what theyll find when they have the finals tests at the collider. i hope they find out something worthwhile, doesnt seem right in my mind to spend 10 billion on nothing.

[particleion]

Actually M theory does explain why gravity is weaker than electromagnetism the reasoning behind it according to m theory is that gravity permeates through membranes and by doing so loses some for its force.

[addictfan]

thanks for the explanation. able to put in ur helpful two cents as always i see. so what do you think will happen when they fire off the collider? i think there is going to mixed results if they dont find the supposed "god" particle. but if they do find something like a blank particle we can make into anything we want (which may be the god particle theyr talkin bout i really dont kno) then mankind and history will never be the same for better or worse. im no scientist, but i can see this is big.

[particleion]

Well i kinda already answered your question on my blog. I personally believe in a fractal universe, but my concept of the universe is also going through a paradigm shift at the moment. So ask me that tomorrow ask me a week then ask me a year from now and you may not get the same answer...That is also not completely true, its not that my concept of the universe is changing its growing.

[addictfan]

i hear that. hard to really hold on to one view of the way the world and the universe works when there are so many different views and some of them are all connected in one way or another. personally i dont truly care to know how the universe first began or if its been here always. i just know its here and im glad for it. might as well make it even better and have more discoveries so the next generation can also say "what a time we live in today" we cant hog all the creativity to ourselves.

[FUCKYOURGODINTHEASS]

When are the first collision tests? Do you know?

[StevenErnest]

To add to the list of fictional explorations of simulated reality, in a recent issue of a Superman comic, he creates life with Earth-Q -- a world without a Superman -- in the miniature infant universe of Qwewq. [Issue #10 of "All Star Superman" written by Grant Morrison.] (I haven't read it yet.)

[StevenErnest]

A very good elucidating of your ideas!

You do tend to throw out so many subjects, that they appear unrelated. You have a wholistic apporach, which I do as well, where you see all these seemingly disparate bits of data, but perceive the Big Picture of how they all fit together. I look forward to more vids like this, where you get more specific.

A great way of marshalling thoughts that I use, is to make an Outline; or perhaps in your case, a (massive) Flow Chart. ^_^

[StevenErnest]

I'm aware of the LHC, but had to wiki ALICE, and go to "her" website. I don't really understand what it is specifically about ALICE here -- that you are saying will "simulate" the universe: How is it/she different from the other detectors like ATLAS, CMS, LHCb...?

[StevenErnest]

I agree with your overarching theory that we will one day create simulated realities -- Virtually and Physically -- but it seems that you are rather stretching things to say the LHC/Alice is "simulating the universe." They are re-creating quantum events at the time of the Big Bang, and on a greatly smaller scale; yes, the data will be analyzed by computer -- but to call this a "simulation of the universe" is kind of an exaggeration. That said, I DO agree these are the first tiny baby steps.

[particleion]

This experiment is not on a "smaller scale" the universe began at a singularity point and that's an infinitely small point in space and time. I know there's wayyyyyy more here to talk about, and more is coming.So Other than my inability to stay calm and not get too excited would you want me to continue these types of blogs as companions to my regular stuff of course.. I just cant fit it all in one video never do.

[StevenErnest]

Of course it's on a smaller scale; that's why they'll probably be needing still larger colliders. And the energy here is nothing like the massive amount when the universe came into being.

I definitely think you should continue this type of blog, er, vlog -- they're very interesting! You can create visuals as examples to match your narration. As each video is limited, try to focus your attention -- as best you can ;) -- to the one specific case or situation you are exploring.