Can any of these patches actually be used to accompnay music? Oh sure, they all sound great for wowing people during a drum solo but I haven't heard a single patch, other than snare, that could actually be used in a band with other musicians the way a drummer/percussionist normally does.
You must work the other way around, instead of having percussion built around other instruments, the other instruments need to build around the wave drum.
Yes, but the problem is that very few of the sounds are actually usable to make music. Its a very sophisticated instrument - it even picked up when I pushed my palm along the drum head as I would on a bayan.
So don't misunderstand - the instrument has potential but I don't think the current sounds reflect its true capabilities.
how usable the wavedrum is depends on the genre of music you're playing. There is never a sound that can't be used to create music, but some sounds are harder to work with, and therefore far more interesting to use.
I wish I could convince myself that your just trolling... Somehow I know that this is truly your legitimate uneducated opinion... It makes me very sad inside.
I have no idea what your comment means. While I was in the music store I tried the HPD10. Fantastic! Very usable sounds, easy to edit sounds, I bought one and love it!
Einge dieser Klangbeispiele gefielen mir sehr gut. Das Grundproblem bei der Benutzung von Trommelstöcken ist jedoch der hohe Anteil der unmittelbaren Anschlagsgeräusche, die in diesem Mix nicht zu hören sind. Bei der Verwendung der WD im kammermusikalischen Zusammenhang sind diese Geräusche recht störend, denn man kann sie nicht immer mit einem hohen Vertärkungslevel übertönen. Insofern finde ich die abschließende Lösung mit den Reisstäbchen sehr realistisch!
Roland Handsonic sends midi response. KORG could have used quick GE programs to control midi and be way ahead of the curve. KARMA has impowered midi with a whole new life.
That is the problem with so many people and KARMA. They do not understand it. It is way beyond and above arpeggiation. It controls not only notes and their sequence but every other parameter of the synth as well. It creates sounds never before heard. KARMA can change sounds over time, merging one creation into the next without changing the actual program or preset. This is not a put down but I almost feel sorry for musicians who do not understand or use KARMA manipulation techniques.
but it didn't change the midi standard at all so you're full of shit, karma is great, but i understand exactly what it is, a fancy arpeggiator, not a change to midi. and this thing has no precognition of MIDI inside it so karma would have been absolutely useless anyway.
You are the only one talking about changing the midi standard and I originally was not talking about sending midi notes. It does not require midi to produce short KARMA programs within the unit itself. I did say that KARMA has impowered midi with a whole new life and it has. Your mistaken self judgement about your intellect has left you with only enough thought power to say things like "you're full of shit." Perhaps you should take a look at Kay's patent before blurting out any more ignorance.
okay firstly, you straight out said "KARMA has revolutionised Midi" it still did nothing to MIDI itself, you worded it incorrectly, i make no apologies. and secondly, karma is still useless in the wavedrum, because it doesn't have it
karma cannot be used on a device that doesn't use the midi standard, so in a way yes, that is an apt analogy. But it's simply one that reinforces my point.
its impossible to give thing midi and have it respo0nd with its interna, sounds to midi because so much of the sound is the organic interaction between the head and piezo mics
MIDI's too limiting. It's fine for FX hits and one shots, but try doing realistic rolls, flutters and flams on a MIDI'ed snare triggering a digital drum module. Ugh.....
that sounds amazing! has a really nice 'natural' sound. i mean the effects are synth sure. but the quality sounds just... beyond what i was expecting :D
I'm trading my nord lead 2x for one of these and the rest will go towards my Kronos
0themandalaproject0 4 months ago
@ 1 min and 30 sec those sounds was avesome :D
PathOfTheWolf 1 year ago 4
GREAT !!!
dragoste747 1 year ago
what algorithm and pcm was used on the head and the rim on the chopstick part? trying to replicate it but am not really successful. :)
carmarko 1 year ago
Nice drumming, especially with the chopsticks XD
FlooooRidaaaa 1 year ago
Damn there goes my budget... I gotta have one of these!
hypercussion 1 year ago
Can any of these patches actually be used to accompnay music? Oh sure, they all sound great for wowing people during a drum solo but I haven't heard a single patch, other than snare, that could actually be used in a band with other musicians the way a drummer/percussionist normally does.
tablameister 2 years ago
You must work the other way around, instead of having percussion built around other instruments, the other instruments need to build around the wave drum.
And then it becomes a fantastic instrument.
arquende 2 years ago
@ arquende and tablameister :Or you could... You know... Hit the drum in rhythm to the beat of the song...
omanafire 2 years ago
Interesting thought, indeed....So as a beat in a song occurs, you would then strike the wavedrum to that beat?
tradetodeath 2 years ago
Fucking incredible... Here I though I was the only one who understood.
omanafire 2 years ago
Yes, but the problem is that very few of the sounds are actually usable to make music. Its a very sophisticated instrument - it even picked up when I pushed my palm along the drum head as I would on a bayan.
So don't misunderstand - the instrument has potential but I don't think the current sounds reflect its true capabilities.
tablameister 2 years ago
how usable the wavedrum is depends on the genre of music you're playing. There is never a sound that can't be used to create music, but some sounds are harder to work with, and therefore far more interesting to use.
arquende 2 years ago
I wish I could convince myself that your just trolling... Somehow I know that this is truly your legitimate uneducated opinion... It makes me very sad inside.
omanafire 2 years ago
I have no idea what your comment means. While I was in the music store I tried the HPD10. Fantastic! Very usable sounds, easy to edit sounds, I bought one and love it!
tablameister 2 years ago
watch some danny carey videos, he uses his pretty well, not over the top use, but hear and there for subtle effect.
themadtapper 2 years ago
can you change the tunes and scales?
legghiu 2 years ago
Einge dieser Klangbeispiele gefielen mir sehr gut. Das Grundproblem bei der Benutzung von Trommelstöcken ist jedoch der hohe Anteil der unmittelbaren Anschlagsgeräusche, die in diesem Mix nicht zu hören sind. Bei der Verwendung der WD im kammermusikalischen Zusammenhang sind diese Geräusche recht störend, denn man kann sie nicht immer mit einem hohen Vertärkungslevel übertönen. Insofern finde ich die abschließende Lösung mit den Reisstäbchen sehr realistisch!
eckenschneck 2 years ago
SUPER - - -
Drummoturg 2 years ago
do your research....this is going for $599 at Musician's Friend. No Midi but WHO CARES???...it's a dynamic instrument, just like any drum.
notawakeyet 2 years ago
Roland Handsonic sends midi response. KORG could have used quick GE programs to control midi and be way ahead of the curve. KARMA has impowered midi with a whole new life.
beautifulmicia 2 years ago
the midi standard has not changed at all by any stretch with KARMA, it did not make some huge change to midi, just arpeggiators.
tekkentool 2 years ago
That is the problem with so many people and KARMA. They do not understand it. It is way beyond and above arpeggiation. It controls not only notes and their sequence but every other parameter of the synth as well. It creates sounds never before heard. KARMA can change sounds over time, merging one creation into the next without changing the actual program or preset. This is not a put down but I almost feel sorry for musicians who do not understand or use KARMA manipulation techniques.
beautifulmicia 2 years ago
but it didn't change the midi standard at all so you're full of shit, karma is great, but i understand exactly what it is, a fancy arpeggiator, not a change to midi. and this thing has no precognition of MIDI inside it so karma would have been absolutely useless anyway.
tekkentool 2 years ago
You are the only one talking about changing the midi standard and I originally was not talking about sending midi notes. It does not require midi to produce short KARMA programs within the unit itself. I did say that KARMA has impowered midi with a whole new life and it has. Your mistaken self judgement about your intellect has left you with only enough thought power to say things like "you're full of shit." Perhaps you should take a look at Kay's patent before blurting out any more ignorance.
beautifulmicia 2 years ago
okay firstly, you straight out said "KARMA has revolutionised Midi" it still did nothing to MIDI itself, you worded it incorrectly, i make no apologies. and secondly, karma is still useless in the wavedrum, because it doesn't have it
tekkentool 2 years ago
That is the same as me saying your brain is useless in your head, because you don't have one.
beautifulmicia 2 years ago
karma cannot be used on a device that doesn't use the midi standard, so in a way yes, that is an apt analogy. But it's simply one that reinforces my point.
tekkentool 2 years ago
its impossible to give thing midi and have it respo0nd with its interna, sounds to midi because so much of the sound is the organic interaction between the head and piezo mics
emilshere 2 years ago
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No this unit is 3k I looked it up
daytona500 2 years ago
The old one was about 3K, this one is 400 UKP and about $600 in the US supposedly.
djthomaswhite 2 years ago
Finally u used chop stick and the music like japanese classic style.
hightide777 2 years ago
i need to hear one without the pad noise....
AngryMollusc 2 years ago 3
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$3000+ for this thing? Come on... no midi? WTF? WAvestation has midi, can't Korg get a waveDRUM to have midi?
Puh-lease $3k? ridiculous and I'm one of the biggest Korg fans
sanjac1974 2 years ago
i think this new one is more around $600?
AngryMollusc 2 years ago
600 is more like it, I hope I was mistaken about the $3k
sanjac1974 2 years ago
Very cool! Great demo!
Superfro2 2 years ago
no MIDI???? WTF?
sanjac1974 2 years ago
an instant deal-breaker, too bad, I was looking forward to playing one of these, oh well... :(
willis37 2 years ago
MIDI's too limiting. It's fine for FX hits and one shots, but try doing realistic rolls, flutters and flams on a MIDI'ed snare triggering a digital drum module. Ugh.....
shaft9000 2 years ago
MIDI is very limiting. But USB to facilitate a PC based editor would have been useful.
tablameister 2 years ago
that sounds amazing! has a really nice 'natural' sound. i mean the effects are synth sure. but the quality sounds just... beyond what i was expecting :D
LeZentooRecords 2 years ago
amazing sound, will be next gen of elect perc
dcool 2 years ago
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DaChicagoWay 2 years ago