[Beta]Wotlk Holy Paladin - JotW Endless Mana

[StraitUpNinja]

Your haste is crap

[holychampion88]

low manufactered noob..

[Demonaxbox]

good times for ret pallys ...

[wnbleethaxor]

nub

[dahorn11]

freeikon 20k with wings yes ...without simply no....nuff said

[dahorn11]

This is a deep ret talent, it gives mana back whenever you do a judge... however its not possible anymore because it used to give back 33% of maximum mana back , now its been changed to 15% base mana. was increadibly op in beta and early 3.0

[DarkyBlue]

Dude this is posted 4 months ago. That's before the official release of WOTLK. So I assume that this is beta-wotlk.

[freeikon]

Wow, thats far from endless mana.....IM at endless mana, specced full holy. Only 18k mana, 38% Crit, 2.5k SP, I spam FoL all day long and between, divine illum/plea/arcance torrent I can keep my bar at 90% unless something goes wrong..and 15k crits? pshhh Im up around 20k+, I can HolyShock_Insta FoL for about as much as you'r one critted HL...

This is interesting to a point that a ret could heal a normal group maybe heroic. But, you're missing out on a lot of tools that Holy has to offer.

[Eiram92]

holy crap 2.5k sp? what armor do u have? pve pvp?

i play pvp im getting pvp armor cus pve isnt rly thaaat good in pvp considering u need resil bad..but jw ur armor :) u can gimme ur char name or something os i can armory him thx =D

[BloodMech21]

grats on e-peening level 80 numbers to a level 70 character.

[MPAH1981]

fartherest i've talented into ret is down to the last one that adds crit to spells, i cant remember without looking. i have a 24% crit. most of the time critting for double, yes double, what is shown here. not uncommon for me to back-to-back 5 15k crits while sitting at 20k mana raid buffed. that + sapphire owl trink +350 mp5 while casting + devine blessing(? i think thats it) and i never run out of mana :) outlasting all other classes in endurance fights. (Magneith-Thorium Brotherhood)

[GuardMou]

i dunno about that one heh, most naxx fights im in pally/ druid are the first class to oom.. im a resto shammy, i got a good couple years of healing lol and i got 612mp5 along with mana totem so i'd say shamans out last all other healers.. especially in long term fights.

[MPAH1981]

I was going thru my mailbox and noticed its been a while, but bit of an update. I recently healed in faction champs fight in ToCr 25. I was maintaining around 3000 healing per second, I'm not the greatest geared, only just over 5k gearscore. But with my trinkets on rotation to make up for the SP lost with divine plea, and 556mp5 while casting with just my wisdom buff, i didn run out of mana. Meanwile a shammy went thru 2 innervates and a priest called for one as well. strange how much changed.

[PuredpsAlAkir]

The ability that gives you mana back is a deep Ret talent. No healer would ever go that far :<

[01BS10]

no its not? its a lvl 71 spell-

[01BS10]

oh u mean that ret thingy,, 0.5 mps

[WoWglory]

gay

[gearae]

this song really annoys me !!!!!!!!!!!

[paulo263]

ignorant prick.. go listen to some emo shit lol

[jad653112]

this thing got nerfed to 15% of total mana =,(

[sigurogu]

Uhh, not it dident?

[staphinfection]

Try doing this in a raid.... it's a little different than spamming in one spot on a dummy.

[SuedElf]

stfu

[LunaticCalm]

Still, I practically never run OOM unless I'm forced to spam Holy Light... But with 20k healcrits, it usually doesn't last long. :D

[scatmanscott]

sor some reason i could heal SM cath at 36 with a retridin, i din even have healing gear, retridins are good, but i personally prefer tankadins

[kaerlvin]

so , ret palas still heal more mana than mana spring totems

[GuardMou]

ret pallies also dont come with 18k mana to have to heal up, its easy to gain back 5k mana... and mana spring + water shield +water shield glyph (130mp5) adds up to a lot of mana in the long run. not to mention +500mana per crit.

[Numberthree13]

you could do that like the first day after the patch but now they nerfed pally mana regain pretty hard so you cant gain all yr mana back by casting judgement

[SrhHeadshot]

Ret spec gg=]

[jerbearforlife]

Holy pallys are awsome i was lvl 10 to 70 Holy never changed So to try them out i made i private server tryed prot and ret out there good but i seem to like holy better but really your saying ret better than holy and you haven't even reached 70?!!?!?

[D3V1L3]

What song?

[Nerferiklol]

Nice, retri pala heals :D

[Nicklaspm]

PAUL POTS!

[scatman49]

OMG LOL please tell me this is'nt a glitch

[ZackATTACK42]

I completely agree with Goodxaar.

The ret paladin's mana regen will be cut by half with the release of WOTLK. And not just that, so many people are haters to holy paladins when most of them are either stupid or jealous. Both specs are good, but Ret will be balanced out and back to "Ret Pal with no Mana = LOL"

Get used to dpsing in instances unless you ret paladins have a great 5v5 arena.

haha

[knifermcstab06]

blizz is about to hit pallies with the nerf dart gun

[shraphen]

fitting music. :)

[Ccrusherat]

hahaha u all stupid NOOBS !!!

THIS IS NOT A BUG ! I play in Blizzard in the server - Darksorrow - and i want to tell u that - Retribution Paladin is better ! He makes so big dmg that u can't even understand when u have died ! Rofl.. no bugs - His mana is regenerating - and with da new SEAL !

Men - PALADIN in the new patch 3.0.2 ROCKS !!!

66 level Paladin in Darksorrow

[okodi]

to bad that blizz changed this : /

move JotW way up in ret tree

[hunnus123]

Actually you are the first one putting that kind of music . If that not bug like someone said , then its awesome . 5/5 for the vid

[simparN]

finaly a wowmovie with good music.

[antonolsson900]

XDDD ,good music''

[angelsgurl123]

Yep definatley going to be using judgements in WOTLK for sure, i kind of use them in raids and 5 mans JOW for casters (mana users), and JOL for the tanks and meelee, but yeah i'll use it more often in WOTLK. Also, has anyone found a good solid talent build for holy pally's, which make sure that you can benifit every skill holy pallys have to maximize raiding, pve. I dont want pvp talent builds, If you could help me out it would be greatly appreiciated. I've been looking around myself :-)

[2dcvs4u]

look druids in every way(pvp) are better than pallys. literally in every way in 2v2. druids have hots, they can LoS easier(travel form) and they have a cc. and a dam good one too. so if this mana thing does work out then it will be more evened out id say.

[Wafflestomp69]

Yes but pallys can easily get out of cc and by casting blessing of sacrafice on there partners so good by sheep sap blind and all that other fun stuff also pallys can dispell dots but its like any other healing class in pvp they have there strenghts and weakness.

[Puuta13]

Retribution palas don't have any weaknesses.

[psyblade1st]

Very mana dependent?

I think Blizzard should've set Retribution Paladins to a design where they fight better on long term, but with rogues and warriors around, it's all about speed.

...Eh...balancing is so hard...

[horatiu000]

you are just stuppid because druid is OP , lock is OP and noone say nothing ...you are a paladin and still complaining about it . as a paladin until now it was only holy ...protection is nothing because you still need mana and retribution was a ded end ...so ..

[xXxIceGodxXx]

this is only the beta, when its live everything will be fixed

[FMn748]

What will be fixed? I don't think its a bug

[Gonzatennis]

New holy paladins, first learn before talking

[kdus0211]

Between that and beacon of light this is looking pretty nice...

[Panicumbrella]

AWESOME song! Haha

[nualrorann]

holy paladins ftw, all has ben said...

[qoopproductions]

judging is a part of the new shot rotate for holy raiding in WotLK, look up the spec changes, they are obviously good.

[wtfijustwannatalk]

in wotlk,judg's range will be 20 yards if not 30,so yea all palas r gonna judg

[Mittenn]

FOR PVP U SCRUB

[Halfling18]

what kind of holy would be up judgeing in a raid lol fail

[doughboyz1991]

the new kind

[seriall1337]

yep cause now you get increased haste while judging.. So I believe judging as a holy paladin at wotlk will be kinda nice..

[BHordeFTW]

You judge anyway! -.-'

So Tanks / Melee can get health from Light.

And healers / casters can melee / wand for mana from wisdom :)

[seriall1337]

You sure? Wouldnt it be best to save the mana from judges and use it on heals instead? But ofc, if we have a retri paladin in group it may be nice to jusdge, considering they have the ability to refresh any judge on the target.. :)

[BHordeFTW]

Well considering you as a Paladin healer would only be spamming 180 FoLs,I really don't think 500~ mana makse much of a differece, thats less than a holy light and a holy shock :)

[seriall1337]

You are absolutely right. But bear in mind that a holy paladin is a single target healer, and a fol or holy light on the tank instead of sealing up and judging might save the group from wiping.. 4 seconds spend to seal up and judge leaves the main tank with one less single target healer for 4 seconds, and with only one holy paladin in the group, that might lead to a wipe.

[BHordeFTW]

It really depends on the situation and what phase / powers the raid boss has. But indeed, to stop healing a tank at the wrong moment could, as you said, lead to a wipe, however if you judge and seal at appropiate times, you should be ok. It all goes down on timing and the tank. If the tank is sound with health, Judge. If the tank is safe with immune crit and crushing blow judge. If boss is in a tank and spank phase, judge ;)

[NeonGenEva]

Not anymore, Crusader Strike doesn't refresh judgements anymore.

[seriall1337]

Oh, thanks, didnt know that :)