Call to the youth No to violence, No to silence 8th November 2009

[vadim6590]

Preachers of Allah

[Vasco1701]

so let us all join together Christian Muslim Bahai Buddhist Sikh Hindu

andmake sense of our existance and move n develop ourselves... in the way our own ancestors did not have that same chance we today have

Quit blaming other people... Accept reality it is the way it is! i spent 10 years of my life blaming the West i did not get anything out of it.. I tell u brothers and sisters you r wasting your time

Kashmir Earthquake 100 000 muslims dead. Non Muslim Orgs came to Aid not Pakistan!

[Vasco1701]

if you live in parts of africa or Arabia or Asia the poor people Inc muslims

do not have adequate Shelter/Sanitation/ access to Technology because they cannot afford it/ the climate and harsh economic realities do not allow it

Now i cannot blame the Brits for an Indian Low Caste man who begs on the streets

Privelidged Indians can b Ruthless to keep their own Empires like the Arabs and Pakistanis can n push downtrodden down!

The West offers U and me Things we would not get back home

[Vasco1701]

places like India china Cyprus italy spain parts of pakistan

were all poor at 1 point... they worked hard generation after generation no complaints n built up their countries

go to karachi or islamabad highly developed more than parts of englands working class sewers

if every1 else in the world can make a go of life without crying out with a begging bowl

whats stopping the others???

[abid1ummah]

if we study the reality of what it takes to make a nation prosperous we find certain similarities for example a well educated people a lack of war a just government and a universal reference point to all problems that emanate from life.

[abid1ummah]

You will find the vast majority of muslim nations are lagging behind on these factors especially the last two. Unfortunately any individual who speaks out against our current fallacies gets put down usually very violently. It came to a point were many people were forced to leave their homes for lands were they would not face such persecution. In the new lands these individuals would continue speaking out against their own regimes without fear of violence.

[abid1ummah]

You may then ask why do we then speak bad about the Governments they fled to? The truth is most of these leaders were put in their place of power to carry out the actions listed below in your previous comments.

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah then y come to the West and whinge??? sort your own problems out on your own doorstep!!

[Vasco1701]

@abid1umma the Arab nations are cash rich..They use Asian cheap labour to build large buildings but they do not want asians to be on par in arab lands..

take a visit to Islamabad and karachi and dhakka their all upcoming..Indian Muslims dominate the film industry right down to the Ismaeli Mumbai commerce Sector

if you flee your own home and seek sanctuary and shelter with the West then have the balls to be grateful for at least having a home roof and resources to sustain ur life here

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah look no offence but sometimes you have to accept certain natural conditions too.. Whats going to grow in Somalia?

For 100s of years afghanistan had no resources the khorasan tribes would enter India and loot raid jewels riches and women all in the name of Religion too

half of bangladesh could end up flooded within 100 years due to lowland floood risk!

despite that fact! some decent muslims take it go sacrifice go abroad make bucks! while others complain! b Thankful in life

[Vasco1701]

the logic is simple if you dont like britain or the West why do you live there??

[Vasco1701]

u came to dar al harab... u pay taxes to a kaffar gov u live in a kaffar country under kaffar rules

y go there?

[abid1ummah]

if it is ok for english people to go to the gulf states to live and work and make statements which are contradictory to the norm why is it not ok for us to do the same in the west?

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummahbrits go to dubai to work n earn. Arabs want european faces in top positions blame your own muslim brothers racism for not employing african or Asian muslim brothers into gud positions

You get brown skinned Asians to work like cannon fodder and build large buildings

and then get europeans n pay them sky high earnings because arab muslims prefer white faces

the same happens in Harrods London..

Muslims in Uk r in top positions now speak!

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah abid u might wanna ask y the Punjabi Pakistani leadership is trying to destroy the ancient pashtun muslim culture along the afghan borders?

how the turks iranians screw the kurds over

the pakistani to the baloch

but no ur more interested in britain look in ur own backyard first

[abid1ummah]

I am no more supportive of the governments in the muslim world as I am of the governments in the West most of these governments which as I'm sure you know get fat payouts from British/French/Russian governments and business men to sit in the thrones that were set down from them yes of course my main interest should be for my my brothers but as I live in the West is it not right for me to have my say?

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah Balochistan Kurdistan have been annexed by other larger muslim groups.

have your say now! one picks on the weaker! sometimes have the balls to look inside! or would you blame the non muslim for lack of rain in your back yard too??

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah mohammed Fayed Tycoon Owner of Harrods Top Store outspoken critic of the West in London..

Visit his arab store they do not like Brown skinned Asians or africans but welcome whites

DO you blame the white man or your own arab brother??

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah every person can should and do have their say with a level of responsibility..

do you have that say in the Islamic Emirate of Iran or the former Islamic Emirate of Aghhanistan under the Taliban??

[abid1ummah]

muslims have a responsibility to speak against tyrant rulers whatever the reality may entail

in answer to your first question no I would just water my garden lol

all muslims have tribal nationalistic ties it was when this became prevalent that led to our meltdown. for example if you are interested the Young Turk movement or the Arab Nationalist movement.

[Vasco1701]

@abid1ummah if britain ad the West is considered to be a Colonial Tyrant then why have millions of muslims fled/or left Muslim countries

to live in the West?? Simple answer dont go there in the 1st place if you want to protest do it in your own backyard! u dont pack ur bags off for a foreign land and whinge about it when u get there!

Just ur garden or the garden of the non muslim 2?

At least we agree on summit! Pakistani Muslims 63% favour Pak Army to Combat Taliban Inside Pak

[ronpaulsucks1]

islam is a lie