Reality Without Me

[shepardspass]

Decided to watch this. Imagine a world... destroyed... by Gods... ambivalent to "the long broken arm of human law" v=Zzyfcys1aLM

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[romerieger]

shhh.. talking like that will get u whacked

[parsleysprigs]

@romerieger The fear of death hold people from the truth

[ibster8]

8) now knowing all that you know why the fears were. Now you know that there is no reason for these fears. They were based on the destorted image of an unaware self-reflection during the perception of what you see...

[ibster8]

7)Thus you realize when you say "them" you mean yourself even though you were certain that you meant "them". You also understand that when you looked at the world, people, enviroment and lucking knowledge or experience sometimes could not make a judgment you felt afraid, terrified. Well you learned that you were afraid not of "them" but indeed of yourself because you did not see yourself reflection in them and thus did not recognize yourself.

[parsleysprigs]

@ibster8 I say them because I have disconnected my self from the rest of humanity, they're ignorance disgusts me and I want out. The only thing stopping me is the fear of death, I hope evolution holds a future without contamination of this generation. I have realized so much that I might kill myself if I trip again, I haven't tripped in a while as a result of being afraid of a failed suicide attempt. Once again fear keeps me from the truth.

[ibster8]

6) When you realized that all you've seen by percepting the world in reality is only your reflection, you understand that what you see and call for example "BEAUTY" is the beauty within you, passion is the passion within you, madness and evel you is also you...

[ibster8]

5) You have learned and understood that there is no more need for a mirror. A mirror you have used all your life. You world, your friends, your enveronment, music, arts all of it you have used as a mirror without realizing it all your life. The world you have known until now is in reality nothing more than a distorted image of your illusive perception...

[ibster8]

4) You understand that there are no bad people and no good people. Because now u know you are them and they are you but everyone stays in their own universe in their uniqueness...

[ibster8]

3) This feeling is love is not the same feeling as u knew it before when you first fell in love with somebody or love to you parents. It's not euphoric feeling, it doesn't even feel as an emotion that will calm down, get hot. It's a permanent state of present in you without any conditions for shining out and spreading. Your love goes to everyone and everybody. There is no human being whom your love will not reach....

[ibster8]

2) Love in turms of the result is genuine you didn't think of or search for it. Instead u were looking for something else and as you found the answer the love showed along with it. Surprised u try to understand what is this?! When you realize the love u feel how fast and deep love have filled your body, your blood, brain and you see how it grows even further and lietrally start to change the world....

[ibster8]

1) I am you and and you and me are the rest of all. I completely agree with you on that but I think the love sound in your words as an ideal or the ultimate aim. Your love for me is the result of my love for you. Love is a result not the aim! Otherwise you have to explain what the love is and how to get it. Therefore love turns into a deparate desired object which we will never reach by going after it

[Nevyfling]

google Doe's Account.

[ewanf]

how could you call this poetry? It's ugly and soulless

[513call]

i think this is brilliant, you are the imagination of yourself

[Zoasterboy]

Post post modernism.

[kingjamesvehs]

1:23 .. WHAT IS THAT?? who is that by?

nice<3

[krlmk87]

btw. ;)

noone said that our senses are wrong. We learn by naming the efffects of our senses, maybe little foggy would be to say we name just our feelings and if someone else named them it the same way(assuming it can be done at at least minimum level), we -- if comunicate clearly -- know the same thing, so it is a little dengerous to say that we are talking about something, that does not exist. In fact it is, it exists, but mayby just in metaphisic convention -- we still tear the air.

[modemusicman]

Just concerned, do you ever wonder where to go after guru? I.E. the Lamborghini of thought? How about mind, body, spirit and how it matters to the soul! Why is it you refer to a virtual world as unable to feel emotion, consequence etc? When its already happening. Humans practically feed that concept, why have concern for a matrix? Did buffaloes fear feeding a form of alternate life? I always try to think of it as a constant game of ping pong between body and mind, past and present.

[btjm83]

You start out with a false premise: reality is what exists without you. In truth, nothing exists without you. we are able to be "objective" only because we are first and foremost subjects. We are totally enmeshed in "reality," we come out of it and are made of it. There can be no seperation.

[ArjunaMysterytramp]

No perceivable reality exist without you... I'm sorry friend you are incorrect

[RottenTreat]

Key Word.................Perceivab­le

[vomitor88]

Physical reality is based on our weak senses and the extension of those senses by technology. Reality exist only within the observer. Quantum physics is proving it. We are generating it. Or as Alan Watts said "You are it!"

[buzznandes]

@btjm83 He speaks of the reality at phisycal level. If you die today belive me that the reality will still be here, otherwise the planet will vanish.

A person has a "idea" of reality but at a quantum level a object has nothing to do with the macro-structure that our senses capture.

The quantum and subquantum reality is the reality is speaks of.

[oFcAsHeEp]

Awesome video...and great ideas...

Peace to all seekers of truth and love

And the rest :D

[Aviator9999]

everything stems from the mind

[TheDoveLady]

"The Secret of Light" explains reality and God

quote

"Man must now know the universe of God for what it is instead of what his senses have made him believe it to be.

Also, he must know that this forever creating universe which seems so real to him is but a cosmic cinema, conceived by the Master Playwright. It is but an electrically projected, spectrum-colored light and sound-wave motion picture play of CAUSE AND EFFECT thrown on the black screen of imaged space and time."

[DoubleHelixPrdctns]

but reality has no meaning, it is your own subjective opinion on what meaning is in life.

Good thoughts =)

[horvay]

"If there is a reality without me, there must be a me without reality." You lost me.

[0ThouArtThat0]

c'mon, that is the most literal line in the whole poem (though it was said ironically). if there is a reality "out there" which exists independent of my perception, there must be something "in here" which is entirely separate from that "out there" and which comes to know it through science (or Randianism, or whatever). Who is this "me" that exists apart from reality?

[AgainstMyThunder]

You said that there was no "mind". What would this "mind" be that you describe?

[kraemer1962]

Excellent. You explore some of the better potentialities this audio-visual technique offers. Form and content do interact. I wonder how you manage to create that atmosphere of contemplative intelligence. No, I don't wonder. I simply enjoy.

[trakkaton]

There is no reality except myself. I cannot grasp how someone would still not understand this in 2008. It's already a part of popular culture, no need for even a first class in philosophy to understand it. All we have is our senses, and beyond that there is nothing that can be described, proven, known. We have to deal with that, so deal with that. It's the situation. Stop lying to yourself. Delusion is not helping to overcome delusion. Wake up within the dream. Waking up from it isn't an option.

[AgainstMyThunder]

You say that our senses are not reality, but by this statement you imply that there is a reality which you say is "myself". And so "myself" and my observations are not ONE and there is a "myself" independent to my senses and thus to this perceptive "reality".

I'm just thinking out loud. Please tell me your thoughts. I'm sort of new to this kind of thing so please don't aversively criticize.

[trakkaton]

There is a tree, you see it, you like it's color and then think and later remember the tree. But what does REALLY happen? The tree may or may not be there. We can't speculate about it's existence, as we can't check whether our senses are accurate. You can call the tree or whatever there is outside and beyond our senses "real", but you can't say a thing about it, it's as real as your dreams (where you see things, too). The perception of a picture however IS real, it's the content that's doubtful.

[trakkaton]

But why do I say that the perception IS real? Because you can know that consciousness is real. "I think, therefore I am" When you think, feel, remember, understand, that process itself is conscious, so if you're not a robot it is clear that it can't be an illusion, where its content can be. If you don't understand that, you have to think about what consciousness is. And maybe take some drugs, if that doesn't help. Consciousness is self-evident. Its existence is real. What else is? We don't know.

[trakkaton]

Now on on to the "myself". There is a pattern of conscious perceptions, or thoughts, or feelings. We cannot talk about this "myself" without talking about senses, because without senses this "myself" does not exist. If you were born blind, deaf, numb, etc. (without senses), you would not have what we call a "myself". It is build by division from the perceived outer world, and it is nutured by playing with what our senses deliver to us. When we dream, we construct a second outer world.

[AgainstMyThunder]

I see. But I'm not going to take drugs or nothing (I'm only 16). So what you are saying is that I am my own reality and that the perceived world is an illusion. And so objectivity=subjectivity and facts=opinions. But wouldn't that mean that there is no difference between reality and illusion and so the assertion that "there is no reality except myself" is contradictory (all illusion and perception is reality)? Maybe I'm missing something unless you mean I am reality. Is that right?

[trakkaton]

I was high back then when I was 16.

However: I do not say that the perceived world is an illusion. I say we don't know whether it is. To say it is an illusion requires to know what it is.

I don't like the word "reality" (noun) because it is misunderstood often to represent one single, unified thing. I prefer the term "real" (adjective). The things that are beyond the senses, "on the other side" of them: unknown. The impressions that I have: real. The impression that I have impressions: real.

[AgainstMyThunder]

"I was high back then when I was 16."

Ha ha, that was back in the day.

Oh, I see. So you are saying that "facts" are never really known because we can never really know if our senses and observations are real?

[trakkaton]

That's right, but things are not that easy. To counter two common misconceptions that may follow: 1. "Facts" are often used when really a convention between players is meant. A "fact" is bound to a level of perceived reality, and works within that realm. If it works, it is perceived to be true. Even dreams can have "facts" within them, and you can't interact in it if you don't respect those. It doesn't make them true, but they are relevant: in a dream, every-day-life, in court, in psychosis, VR.

[trakkaton]

2. This is not the end of ethics. Neither is the fact that we have no free will, or that there is no god, or that we don't know what is right.

Ethics are important because you shape your world by your attitudes, actions and decisions. You make the world a bit like you want it to be, by your behaviour. If you slay helpless babies in your dreams, they won't give you a lot of happiness nor relief. The same applies to other areas of life. Give, and you will be given. In your prison of the mind.

[AgainstMyThunder]

1. So "facts"="common opinions". I figured that out a long time ago. But I'm not sure what you mean by the dreams-having-facts assertion.

2. I understand the second paragraph but not the first. But, as I understand, you said that it was a "fact" that we don't have free will, there is no God and that we don't know what is right; but these are variant opinions on which you cannot assert a common convention amongst society.

[trakkaton]

1. Well, let's put it this way: Whether there is something such as "common opinion" is already helpless speculation. If you are in a perceived world, let's say the dreamworld, you have to bow down to it's laws, treat it factual, even if it isn't.

2. It is already helpless speculation whether there is a "society". There is no free will, try to define it and/ or start with deep introspection to see this. God is helpless speculation. Do what you want is the law. I recommend to want love.

[AgainstMyThunder]

On the free will, do you mean that free will does not exist because each of our infinite possibilities of actions already have predefined outcomes, or determinism? I'm not going to go into the "whether there is a God" domain. It's a matter of belief. I don't think I understand you when you say that "common opinion" is helpless speculation.

[trakkaton]

A lot of people only think about the alternatives "free will" (whatever it is) and determinism. But there are other possibilities. Like true random, chaotic situations, singularity.

"god" is just a weak, undefined, hollow wishful thinking, worse tham Batman, Santa, invisible pink unicorns and the Easter Bunny combined. Nothing can be said, proven or asked about it, and it just doesn't work.

"Common opinion" is different dependend on what part of the billions of people you chose (if they exist).

[AgainstMyThunder]

I disagree with what you said about God, because at least he was "created" (if you believe that) for a substantial reason. But I will not get into that.

I guess it's like the quote I once heard (paraphrased): "Death is nothing to us; for that which is intangible cannot be perceived, and that which cannot be perceived is nothing to us." If it does not impact our senses, it does not exist in our "illusion" (perceived world) but it can exist within our "reality" (mind, consciousness, etc.).

[trakkaton]

Name one thing that wasn't invented for a substatial reason.

What death is, and whether that is nothing, is unknown to us. Whether we can perceive it, also. So I have to strongly disagree. And even if we couldn't perceive death then non-perception is still a very very relevant topic. It's like if I tell you: I'll poison you in your sleep tonight, but don't worry, you won't notice.

Well, yeah, exactly...

[AgainstMyThunder]

I see your point, but I asked you about reality, not God.

Aren't thoughts, ideas, etc. also part of perception because I can subjectively "see" you poisoning me? But I think the quote means that since we have never perceived death and know no one that has perceived it, we do not have a perception of it; like color to a blind person. But these fall into the domain of the definition of perception. What is perception?

[trakkaton]

Whether I tell you about the poisoning or not won't change the fact that you don't like it, right?

People tend to forget that what not happens is very, very important. In fact, whenever we live in our presence for a future or a past event we honor something which actually is not existant with the valuable moment that is gone forever once it is sacrificed for one of the two. So they are important, and if they stay not happening or never were that's a betrayal of the present.

[Pandanu]

there is no reality without you. that would be biased.

[nosmartyr]

I'm glad to see that you've got it. I knew you would and I'm proud of you/me. =]

[CleverDjembe]

Alan Watts is reborn ;P

[nepsis101]

This is the true religion. All others are thrown-away bandages beside it. This is the sema of slavery and mastery dancing together. This is not-being. Neither words, nor any natural fact can express this. I know these dancers. Day and night I sing their songs in this phenomenal cage. My soul, don't try to answer now! Find a friend, and hide. But what can stay hidden? Love's secret is always lifting its head out from under the covers, "Here I am!"

[nepsis101]

Your rhetorical skills are growing...these are your words, right?...ah, I'm listening right now...I know this Rumi!

Isn't he great! "Find a Friend and Hide" (Aaron here also radiofriendly)

[redliterocket4]

should be... did i steal a line from rumi?? I know poets are always saying they try not to read other poetry for fear of unconsciously repeating it... it is hard to put Rumi down though.

[nmoser1028]

This is commendable. Your idea of objectivity is very poetic and expansive, and I feel similarly. However, by the fact that it is your idea and your conception, subjectivity gains the upper hand. You may feel as if the world is approaching you and supporting of these thoughts (and indeed it is, within you), but even 'we' is 'me,' in reflection upon what was present.

[trickertricks]

What people in the egoWorld fail to contemplate is that there is such a thing, as things that are incomprehensible to the human mind. like the functions of the Universe. it's their Overgrown-ego that makes people "think" they can understand just about everything. Many many a thinkers have forever wasted their time trying to understand that which is incomprehensible.. gone totally down the Wrong path, because it is incomprehensible. n Realized at the end of it all.. they never got anywhere.

[elgaed42]

However, the overall structure of the universe is comprehensible to even simple people. This is the absolute truth of Creation which is known even to very simple folks who live in the forests, but which is clouded to the mental vision of many persons who labour under belief systems in the modernised world. This is a truth, producing other absolute truths, which one must accept implicitely to even live and exist.

[trickertricks]

What i'm saying is that people Must contemplate 2 opposite views of a situation to see the Clearest View. Understanding that there is parts you can't understand takes a person Way Closer to the Truth.

the other thing i'm saying that there is such a thing as "the unknown", this is what "Mystery" is. the Universe gives us Mystery for a Reason. n that is to make us go into the state of Awe. Awe is the Highest Level of Happiness available to the human experience. Enlightenment.

[elgaed42]

Of course there is. Creation is 'the immeasurable secret floating in the immeasurable expanse'. It is the absolutes truths of creation, however, which allow this whole manifold to exist at all.

[symbolt]

I found Krishnamurti's perspective on reality vs me very intelligent, I like it.He basically says, but why is there a me? Like, why do you need it, why can't you try to open up to the process of being the associations among memories and concepts, if you really realize what it means for the world and me to be the same only then can you change it. and he's very anti-religious and anti dogma at that, which I like.

[UtubiaPresident]

commendable effort.

[ddj333]

...First one must establish what is meant by objective reality. In this case I mean that which exists without me. Immediately after defining reality so, I am struck by the rationality which results: Perhaps I should entertain other definitions that include me as a part of the objective realm from my own subjective point of view thereby allowing them to be non-dual...

[otonanoC]

Why is there only 299 views here? Matt needs ten times that much exposure. I gave this 5 stars. It deserves 6.

[thedarkener]

This video needs to be featured.

[teamhumanity]

BEAUTIFUL!!!

[metedude2]

awesome video!

thanks :)

PEACE AND LOVE

[roberto8ag]

Thank you

[goatyboy2007]

Great Stuff Matt!

[iurak6868]

complicated at some point, but really beautiful anyway.

(had to listen to it twice)

[stigandr]

yes you are :)

[AdityaK96]

Great job man....i like how you take time out of your life to actually ask yourself these questions. Less and less people nowadays are doing this because they feel it isnt important and that is sad

[enterthexavier]

Did you write this yourself? It sounds familiar.