WTF??! sounds like the aircraft is falling apart from the inside. If an Airbus or Boeing aircraft rattled this much upon landing they would be retired years ago.
Great video. I would love to fly on a Russian jet. I am so bored of Boeing and Airbus (A380 was great to fly though).
A lot of European airlines don't buy Russian aircraft, mainly because of the price. Boeing and Airbus are so well established that they are able to offer big discounts for regular customers. That being said, Brazillian aircraft are making a big entry into European air transport now, especially the Embraer 190!
Does any European airline flies or ordered Russian airliners? I know An124 and An225 are or were leased by EU countries but what about the passenger ones.
@keepadmiring Malev ordered some Sukhoi Superjets. Also ItaliAirlines from Italia. Also Alitalia had interest but the Russians have been fooled by the people of ALitalia.
@Airplanespot Er werd op het moment van filmen groot onderhoud gepleegd aan de banen van Sheremetyevo. Zondag ga ik weer die kant op, en ik zal je laten weten of de banen beter zijn. Helaas staat er geen IL-96 op me te wachten, maar een A330
NO thrust reversers landing a Heavy?? Does the aircraft come without this or the pilot doesn't give a crap about the integrity of the plane?
If it was an A340, the pilot would be publicly hanged.... you really ruin the brakes, wheels and gear structure by using only brakes on landing. Any other aircraft would start using brakes AFTER the thrust reversers slowed down the aircraft to arond 60 kts
@patrik667 I've been on two LOT Polish flights in a 767, where they didn't use reversers. IDK why. It seemed they just applied breaks a couple of times. Maybe it's an eastern Europe thing.
@patrik667 Wrong, airplanes normally use also wheel brakes from touchdown to taxi speed, pilots normally arm autobrake before landing. Often when pilots have plenty of room and wheel brakes are enough to stop the plane they dont use reverse thrust, this saves fuel and engines. This happens on western planes too.
When you reach 60kt and reverse thrust slow down autobrake goes off too, and then pilot brakes manually..
@Pvjinflight Autobrakes goes off when pilot is starting the manually braking... not when the reverse is decreasing...many airlines use reverse every freakin time... only airline i have seen so far not using reverse on every landing is Lufthansa,easyJet,PIA and Norwegian air shuttle...
@patrik667 If you have a sufficient amount of runway to slow the plane down then reverses are not required for landings. People are always under the assumption that reversers are required to stop the plane but dont understand that 99% of performance landing data does NOT take reverser credit.
If your landing analysis says you can stop with brakes only in 8,000 ft on a 11,000 ft runway, why use reversers and put additional stress on the aircraft/crew?
@SU0229 ok bedankt. Zie dat ze de enige IL-96 400 hebben gesloopt. Jammer wel worden er nog cargo's gebouwd. Verbazend gewoon dat ze die dingen niet verkocht krijgen ....
@eeikel Op zich heb ik dat ook wel eens gedacht, maar er steekt veel meer achter. Met name de after-sales en de service zijn van een ander caliber dan Boeing of Airbus. Met name motorenfabrikant Aviadvigatel laat steken vallen.
@SU0229 das waar, maar door gelijk een service center op te zetten zoals er ook voor boeing in amsterdam is kun je veel service problemen voorkomen. Denk wel dat de motoren betrouwbaar genoeg zijn. Welliswaar is de aftersales van airbus en boeing waarschijnlijk beter maar daar is de prijs ook naar. Ik denk dat een airline die met tupolevs gaat vliegen zelfvoor een groot gedeelte het onderhoud moet regelen of een contract met stork-fokker sluiten bv omdat af te dekken maar daar is de prijs naar.
"No sounds of flaps and wheels or something else like the Boeings and Airbus plane."
I love how you put that in English, even though it's very clear that you speak Russian, just so you could start a fight with any American that reads this. Btw, would you mind making a video of the IL 96 during the period when it is deploying its gear and flaps instead of just saying that it doesn't make any noises when it is putting them down. It kind of questions the validity of your statement otherwise.
@SU0229 Let me rephrase then. I love how you put that in English, even though it's very clear that you speak Dutch, just so you could start a fight with any American that reads this.
@SU0229 What's the significance of your nationality? None. The point is that you're claiming Russian superiority over the West. And what is that god-awful twirl in noise that's much louder and longer-heard than on Airbus and Boeing planes on landing?
actually ilyushin aircraft harly ever crash, the most vunerable russian aircraft is probably tupolev tu - 154, they had most crashes, but there are also a heluva alot of them. and looking at this video, this is the best landing i have ever seen, (honestly) and i think ilyushin dont make good landings rare :)
Nah, they are using both Airbus and Boeing because their aicraft tend to have massive production records and many operators and thus are thoroughly tested and already certified. Also, there are not that many modern Russian aircraft in the same class as say the A320. The long used Russian Tu-154 has a great safety record, but is noisy and not very fuel efficient. The IL-96 is great, but not very fuel efficient either. The upcoming Sukhoi SJ100 surpasses many Western jets in that class, however.
Looks cool. but even the russians buy western planes before they buy russian planes....It would be good to see more in the world market, if they are equal or better. Too few flying now to compare objectively. though. Hope to see more.
The IL-96 has a similar spec to the Airbus A340, but given a choice I would choose to fly in the Ilyushin, it is a much safer aircraft. The IL-96 inherits all the safety engineering aspects from the IL-86 and from an asthetic point of view, this is just my opinion now, the Ilyushin is better looking than Airbus.
no.. comparing how many incidents the a340 had and il-96 i think a340 is better for the simple fact a lot more airlines use it compared to il-96s and therefore the chances of crashing are higher and yet the incidents are kept at a super low rate
@bobnoxadrez A340 A million times better!!! I am a captain, i flew Delta Airlines Lockheed L-1011 Tristar. That was a million times better than this and the A340. But the A340 is Nice. But as a captain i love the L-1011 more than all these aircrafts
@WorldAirwaysMD11 but I'm Russian and what can u answer 2 this? had u ever flown on this plane??? I was.And I can say that this plane is one of the best planes in the world together with Boeing T7))) недаром же все русские президенты выбирают именно ИЛы. А всё благодаря исключительной надежности этих самолетов)))
@Panch124 Will i have been flying for 33 years as a captain. I have been on the IL-96, and other type of russians aircrafts like the TU-154. Comparing a IL-96 to a A340 is almost not possible because the IL-96 is not that big on technology, or range, or cabin features. I have been on the plane many times on Aeroflot back in the days and i have had a discomfort feeling all the time. Especially the TU-154. American Made planes are just more common out their and reliable. IL-96 etc are just loud
@bobnoxadrez Yea.. alot more use the A340,but that doesnt make it a better plane than the IL96... The fact is that people have for some IDIOTIC reason given russia a bad name and reputation.. thats the reason they aint ordering russian planes... IF they gave the IL96,Tu204,An148 etc a chance,i would bet my pants they would like it,and see the fact that its really a VERY good aircraft! Russia build strong solid machines from from A-Z!!!
@ollo1982 No, the reason is that russian planes are generally not as fuel economical as western planes, Sukhoi Superjet is exception and many western airlines have ordered it. Even big russian airlines are changing to western planes because their russian counterparts eat so much more fuel. Ofc that doesnt make plane itself bad, but makes no sense to operate with them.
i don't the runaway is bumpy as much as i think it's the reversers or something off the plane, notice when all the loud sounds of the engines reversers stop you don't hear anymore bumps... when i flew on bigger planes like the 744 i had the same experience but it was the reversers, not the runaway.
Nee, ik ben met de IL-96 van Moskou naar Delhi gevolgen en weer terug. Iedere vakantie probeer ik met 'iets' Russisch te vliegen. Meestal moet ik eerst naar Moskou. Die vlucht heeft als vluchtnummer SU0229. Weet je gelijk waar mijn gebruikersnaam vandaan komt ;-)
ahh ok ik snap het! wat cool! hoe komt het dat je probeert met iets russisch te vliegen?? ik heb zelf nog nooit gevlogen met ''iets russisch'' hehe maar zou het graag willen ook :) nou met die nieuwe sukhoi superjet 100 zullen we vast wel meer russische vliegtuigen zien denk ik. hey hoe lang duurde je vlucht van Dehli naar Moskou??
Toen Aerflot nog met de Tu-154m naar Schiphol kwam, ben ik een keer of 5 naar Moskou geweest. Later kocht ik tickets naar Budupest, om vandaaruit naar Moskou te vliegen met de Tu-154. Ook ben ik twee keer met de Bulgaarse maatschappij Air Via op pad geweest. Zij hebben ook (nu niet meer) met hagelnieuwe Tu-154m 's gevlogen. Daarnaast ben ik ooit lang geleden met een Il-86 naar Bangkok gevlogen vanaf Moskou en weer terug. En twee jaar geleden dus met een Il-96 naar Delhi, een vlucht van dik 6 uur
Drie jaar geleden heb ik een fantastische reis door Iran gemaakt. Ik heb daar heel veel gevlogen met de maatschappij Iran Airtours en die vlogen alleen maar met de Tu-154m. Dat was echt fantastisch. Nu wachten op de SSJ en op een maatschappij die ooit met een Tu-204 naar Amsterdam gaat komen. Daarnaast heb ik ook ooit in een An-12 gevlogen. Supercool. Wie weet gaan er nog andere maatschappijen de SSJ aanschaffen. Malev heeft er 30 besteld, wie volgt?
Ja in ieder geval zoals je zegt die Iraanse maatschappijen vliegen ook met russische vliegtuigen en de SSJ wordt ook aangeschaft in Iceland air, Italy Airlines en Malev van Bulgarije, dus ja ik hoop dat er meer zullen volgen. Die SSJ is in ieder geval stiller en zuiniger dan de meeste vliegtuigen toch. Dus zo ie zo even afwachten :-)
@SU0229 ohhhh ik hoop ook dat de TU 204's naar amsterdam gaan vliegen (ooitt???)
maar ze zijn nu bezig met de MS-21 vliegtuigen, een samenwerking van Ilyushin Yakovlev en Irkut ofzoeits, die zullen vast wel populair worden denk ik :-)
DoubleGauss: The only thing Boeing has similar to this is the 707. The Il-86 was the base for the Il-96. But the 707 was a short range narrowbody jet. While the 86 was a large widebody. The Il-96 was an updated model that came three years before westerners built anything similar.
Clearly shows you know nothing about airliners. besides, i would rather fly on an IL-96 or a Tu-204, considering they have the best safety records among the world.
Boll shrt :))) you probably love yopurself tooo much :)) Russians and American aviations are separate!!! May in the last years it starts to exchange the technologies between each other.. also with airbus... Nowdays, the airplanes are building all together -Americans, europeans and russians... BUT, As for IL96 and before-models -don tell this shit what russians stole from Americans :)))
no!! they don't use it when there is runway to spare till the exit they are supposed to take. so rather than just stop for no reason and then go with only 20 knots they use the runway to get there faster. and the brakes would be toast if there weren't any reverse thrust.
Okay, okay. you know better than me.(not) The main reason reverse thrust is not used is noise abatement. If Russian aircraft do have to use reverse thrust, how come the II-62 uses them before touch down????
A couple of things: 1) The Il-62 probably needs the reverse thrust because the plane may have a pretty high landing speed to start with. 2) Most Russian jets can usually do without reverse thrust because they have to operate out of less well-prepared runways than Western airports, and reverse thrust on a poor-quality runway can cause a lot of expensive foreign object damage (FOD) to the engines.
all the comments beyond about don-using reverses are wrong. The unusing of reverses is depend of Dispatcher can allow you to leave the runway. If you are allowed to leave the runway on the top (end)< pilots probably would to SAVE THE FUEL and dont use the reverse (its gonna collect to pilots perfomance about saving the fuel) and brake just with spoilers and wheels, if plane and situation can allow to do that from landing to landing..
These aircraft have started operating here to the Maldives now. The ground workers who work on this beatiful jet are pretty lucky to experience a new type of jet! These aircraft are so great and I really wish to fly in one of these!
I can't belive someone would compare this russian junk to western air craft, i would rather have a bumpy flight then fall out of the sky...wouldn't you?
This is the safest airliner in the world without a single incident. And all of the newer russian aircraft have 100% good safety records. And bumpy flights do not really depend on the design of the aircraft, but the weather conditions. I'd rather fly on an IL-96 than a 747.
@paice95 I agree. But the majority of all plane crashes by western aircraft are human error. Another factor leading to why Russian aircraft have a lower crash rate is probably also because of better trained pilots.
@paice95 Actually its not. Il-86 and Il-96 have only few accidents because there is many times less of them built and flying than A340 and other western planes, so western planes have actually better crash rate than them. Tu-154 have much worse crash date than western modern planes, but im not blaming the plane, in soviet union they flied in bad maintenance and air safety, and now they fly in many developing countries with same thing.
The A380 is the ugliest plane i've ever seen (but still, it's my most favourite aircraft). And these aircraft look totally different and are not comparable. Ilyushins are designed to be tough and airlines do not consider aircraft by their looks, but by their performance and capacity.
I remember seeing a video where some people filmed the landing of an IL-96 (although it could have been its predecessor, the IL-86) and they filmed the interior upon landing and showed everything shaking like crazy, the roof, the seats, everything!
IL 96 is a good plane, if you can watch this video here in youtube "thank you for flying aeroflot" you will see that the sound in the second 50 comes from inside, there is failure in the sealing of the aircraft.. I wander if a little welding would fix the problem for such a nice plane :)
WTF??! sounds like the aircraft is falling apart from the inside. If an Airbus or Boeing aircraft rattled this much upon landing they would be retired years ago.
anacrobat89 6 months ago
damn i wanna experience being on one of those :| i think they are better than the A340
kurtis427 9 months ago
nice video thanks for sharing..no reverse thrust?
AirCanada014 10 months ago
Funny, I could hear the slats retract...
Alwayzsmilin 10 months ago
@Alwayzsmilin Yes.. and comparing it with the flap/slat sound on the A380 this isnt even noticable...
ollo1982 8 months ago
que tambien dirá
davidlucasfer 11 months ago
@TheRickyLevi
If you want to argue with me, fine. But please don't argue with me here, send me personal messages. Thank You!
TheRickyLevi 11 months ago
Guys, seriously, stop arguing already!
Just watch the video. I personally am a fan of the IL-96.
But if you prefer the A340, fine then. Don't watch the video if you don't like it.
Yes, the A340 is more modern, but that is because the IL-96 was developed in the time of the Soviet Union, during glasnost and perestroika.
Those were some hard times for Ilyushin, but despite that the IL-96 has western avionics. And the IL-96 is pretty quiet!
TheRickyLevi 11 months ago
Great video. I would love to fly on a Russian jet. I am so bored of Boeing and Airbus (A380 was great to fly though).
A lot of European airlines don't buy Russian aircraft, mainly because of the price. Boeing and Airbus are so well established that they are able to offer big discounts for regular customers. That being said, Brazillian aircraft are making a big entry into European air transport now, especially the Embraer 190!
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I would NEVER fly a Russian airliner if I died for it!
randomstuff5464 11 months ago
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SU0229 11 months ago 24
@SU0229 go f**k off.
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stasisnu18 11 months ago
@stasisnu18 whatever.
randomstuff5464 11 months ago
@randomstuff5464 : So who cares?
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piyush0anu 10 months ago
The traditional baby crying!
southerntrains3 1 year ago
Does any European airline flies or ordered Russian airliners? I know An124 and An225 are or were leased by EU countries but what about the passenger ones.
keepadmiring 1 year ago
@keepadmiring Malev ordered some Sukhoi Superjets. Also ItaliAirlines from Italia. Also Alitalia had interest but the Russians have been fooled by the people of ALitalia.
SU0229 1 year ago
too much noise
c0string 1 year ago
beautiful landing, great plane, great vid!
scorpian865 1 year ago
No reverse trust? Interesting...
paselessss 1 year ago
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Not GUILT of the aircraft that it was made for soviet air
it'll be super if it have modification for western market
we hope,we hope )).....
it have grate safety, grate aerodynamic, but in complex this all make no sense for western airliinse ... ....
FMorris308 1 year ago
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FMorris308 1 year ago
Every single video of this aircraft that I've seen has all that rattling on landing - what's the deal?
mickithebush 1 year ago
The worst airliner ever built is the MD-11. I won't fiy the thing. The second worst is the IL-86.
The IL-96 was a far better plane, but like must Russian airplanes, it falls far behind western products in efficiency.
Flies2FLL 1 year ago
@Flies2FLL i agree
AirbusKen 1 year ago
where were you flying from?
runway34r 1 year ago
know why they clapped? cause they survived
50RpJ 1 year ago
@50RpJ lol
organist12345 1 year ago
seems a nice aircraft .
does the seats a have a video screens ??
yaq200 1 year ago
@yaq200 yeah, it has.
photoes
IAmRussianSlimShady 1 year ago
@yaq200 no entertainment system at all...
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 I think it should deppend on an airline, not on an aircraft.
paselessss 1 year ago
@SU0229 o i see you mamaged to survive your 1 in 10000000
Aviationnation10 1 year ago
no reverse?
fsrodolfitocarlos 1 year ago
I ♥ I 96-300
elettrico00 1 year ago
ik weet nou nog niet zo zeker of de landingsbaan zo hobbelig is, je ziet vaak bij russische vliegtuigen meer vering in de wielen zit.
Airplanespot 1 year ago
@Airplanespot Er werd op het moment van filmen groot onderhoud gepleegd aan de banen van Sheremetyevo. Zondag ga ik weer die kant op, en ik zal je laten weten of de banen beter zijn. Helaas staat er geen IL-96 op me te wachten, maar een A330
SU0229 1 year ago
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Airplanespot 1 year ago
NO thrust reversers landing a Heavy?? Does the aircraft come without this or the pilot doesn't give a crap about the integrity of the plane?
If it was an A340, the pilot would be publicly hanged.... you really ruin the brakes, wheels and gear structure by using only brakes on landing. Any other aircraft would start using brakes AFTER the thrust reversers slowed down the aircraft to arond 60 kts
patrik667 1 year ago
@patrik667 I've been on two LOT Polish flights in a 767, where they didn't use reversers. IDK why. It seemed they just applied breaks a couple of times. Maybe it's an eastern Europe thing.
rafalweb 1 year ago
@patrik667 Wrong, airplanes normally use also wheel brakes from touchdown to taxi speed, pilots normally arm autobrake before landing. Often when pilots have plenty of room and wheel brakes are enough to stop the plane they dont use reverse thrust, this saves fuel and engines. This happens on western planes too.
When you reach 60kt and reverse thrust slow down autobrake goes off too, and then pilot brakes manually..
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
@Pvjinflight Autobrakes goes off when pilot is starting the manually braking... not when the reverse is decreasing...many airlines use reverse every freakin time... only airline i have seen so far not using reverse on every landing is Lufthansa,easyJet,PIA and Norwegian air shuttle...
ollo1982 8 months ago
@patrik667 If you have a sufficient amount of runway to slow the plane down then reverses are not required for landings. People are always under the assumption that reversers are required to stop the plane but dont understand that 99% of performance landing data does NOT take reverser credit.
If your landing analysis says you can stop with brakes only in 8,000 ft on a 11,000 ft runway, why use reversers and put additional stress on the aircraft/crew?
onebadlt123 1 year ago
Klopt het dat ik geen thrust reverse zie?
osjcag 1 year ago
@osjcag dat klopt. Gebeurt op Schiphol ook bijna niet meer.
Vliegtuigen gaan in glijvlucht naar beneden.
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 Oh dat wist ik niet, dankjewel ;-) Betekent glijvlucht dus dat er (bijna) geen thrust nodig is en daardoor geen reverse?
osjcag 1 year ago
@osjcag Klopt vliegtuigen landen dan als een zweefvliegtuig.
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 Oke bedankt voor de info!
osjcag 1 year ago
I think they have just finished workin on it. Iĺl check it next month!
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 De IL-96 400 is gesloopt volgens de site die je opgaf.
echt jammer lijkt me commercieel een uitgelezen toestel
om bijvoorbeeld vakantie vluchten te vliegen turkije, tenerife ed.
eeikel 1 year ago
time for some runway maintenance, lol
familyguy958 1 year ago
Next month Iĺl be flying with Aeroflot to Beijing in an Airbus A330. But I still hope they'll change it to a IL-96.
eeikel google even op ch-aviation Als je die site hebt gevonden, kun je precies zien wie met wat vliegt. Ook de IL-96-400
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 ok bedankt. Zie dat ze de enige IL-96 400 hebben gesloopt. Jammer wel worden er nog cargo's gebouwd. Verbazend gewoon dat ze die dingen niet verkocht krijgen ....
eeikel 1 year ago
@SU0229 OK bedankt, zag op site dat de enig gebouwde IL-96 400 gesloopt is.
Erg jammer vond dat echt een toestel waar markt potentie in zat....
eeikel 1 year ago
echt onbegrijpelijk dat bv transavia niet met TU-204 300 vliegt.
Voordelig in aanschaf (25milj) en betere prestaties dan bv 737-700.
Zoals 2450mtr baanlengte en toch 220 passagiers laag brandstof verbruik en zeker met de upgraded PS-90A2 lijkt me bedrijfsmatig erg interesant.
net als de Ilyushin 96-400 voor de lange afstanden.
eeikel 1 year ago
@eeikel Op zich heb ik dat ook wel eens gedacht, maar er steekt veel meer achter. Met name de after-sales en de service zijn van een ander caliber dan Boeing of Airbus. Met name motorenfabrikant Aviadvigatel laat steken vallen.
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 das waar, maar door gelijk een service center op te zetten zoals er ook voor boeing in amsterdam is kun je veel service problemen voorkomen. Denk wel dat de motoren betrouwbaar genoeg zijn. Welliswaar is de aftersales van airbus en boeing waarschijnlijk beter maar daar is de prijs ook naar. Ik denk dat een airline die met tupolevs gaat vliegen zelfvoor een groot gedeelte het onderhoud moet regelen of een contract met stork-fokker sluiten bv omdat af te dekken maar daar is de prijs naar.
eeikel 1 year ago
@eeikel zoek even op Wikipedia, de engelse versie, naar Green Air. Er zijn maatschappijen die het heus hebben geprobeerd.
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 OK gevonden
eeikel 1 year ago
oh where is the reverse thrust??
stasisnu18 1 year ago
1:05, the whole plane is going to fall apart. "no sounds of flaps and WHEELS". Did the plane land on it's belly then?
scaremenga 1 year ago
"No sounds of flaps and wheels or something else like the Boeings and Airbus plane."
I love how you put that in English, even though it's very clear that you speak Russian, just so you could start a fight with any American that reads this. Btw, would you mind making a video of the IL 96 during the period when it is deploying its gear and flaps instead of just saying that it doesn't make any noises when it is putting them down. It kind of questions the validity of your statement otherwise.
cptnbennett 1 year ago
@cptnbennett I'm Dutch..... and I don't speak Russian.
SU0229 1 year ago
@SU0229 Let me rephrase then. I love how you put that in English, even though it's very clear that you speak Dutch, just so you could start a fight with any American that reads this.
cptnbennett 1 year ago
@SU0229 What's the significance of your nationality? None. The point is that you're claiming Russian superiority over the West. And what is that god-awful twirl in noise that's much louder and longer-heard than on Airbus and Boeing planes on landing?
scaremenga 1 year ago
@scaremenga thats the sound of: the russians are comming :-) hehe dont you just love the sound how original it is
stasisnu18 1 year ago
@stasisnu18 A+ for originality.. A+ for scaring the shit out of it's passengers. F- for failing to capture my love.
scaremenga 1 year ago
actually ilyushin aircraft harly ever crash, the most vunerable russian aircraft is probably tupolev tu - 154, they had most crashes, but there are also a heluva alot of them. and looking at this video, this is the best landing i have ever seen, (honestly) and i think ilyushin dont make good landings rare :)
iam1and1isme 1 year ago
How many Ilyushin 96-400 are being build and operative?
eeikel 1 year ago
i dont see why people clapp its a routeen thing
youngestpilotinGa 1 year ago
This aircraft is ok, but im talking about il-62, that is a bad plane, i like this one.
AK123dun 1 year ago
even russian airliners have switched to american aircraftts, they are a lot safer and more reliable.
AK123dun 2 years ago
@AK123dun russian airplanes are safe!, just because they're not american it does not mean they are cheap and unsafe.
zapayo 1 year ago
Why do you think that?
NTpyros 1 year ago
Nah, they are using both Airbus and Boeing because their aicraft tend to have massive production records and many operators and thus are thoroughly tested and already certified. Also, there are not that many modern Russian aircraft in the same class as say the A320. The long used Russian Tu-154 has a great safety record, but is noisy and not very fuel efficient. The IL-96 is great, but not very fuel efficient either. The upcoming Sukhoi SJ100 surpasses many Western jets in that class, however.
joeceph 1 year ago
The topolev 204 is a very good alternative for the 320, 737 etc ...
eeikel 1 year ago
Looks cool. but even the russians buy western planes before they buy russian planes....It would be good to see more in the world market, if they are equal or better. Too few flying now to compare objectively. though. Hope to see more.
squadman33 2 years ago
where were u flying from?
bobnoxadrez 2 years ago
Actually, the sound is not from the runway. The IL96 has a sort of ABS system which causes the aircraft to shudder when it brakes heavily.
watch?v=ea5S6TRF1WA for an example, you can hear it after the reversers stop.
PS: Awesome plane, and would love to fly on one soon!
zedextreme8177 2 years ago 2
The IL-96 has a similar spec to the Airbus A340, but given a choice I would choose to fly in the Ilyushin, it is a much safer aircraft. The IL-96 inherits all the safety engineering aspects from the IL-86 and from an asthetic point of view, this is just my opinion now, the Ilyushin is better looking than Airbus.
redcarsarasota 2 years ago
no.. comparing how many incidents the a340 had and il-96 i think a340 is better for the simple fact a lot more airlines use it compared to il-96s and therefore the chances of crashing are higher and yet the incidents are kept at a super low rate
bobnoxadrez 2 years ago 6
@bobnoxadrez A340 A million times better!!! I am a captain, i flew Delta Airlines Lockheed L-1011 Tristar. That was a million times better than this and the A340. But the A340 is Nice. But as a captain i love the L-1011 more than all these aircrafts
WorldAirwaysMD11 1 year ago
@WorldAirwaysMD11 but I'm Russian and what can u answer 2 this? had u ever flown on this plane??? I was.And I can say that this plane is one of the best planes in the world together with Boeing T7))) недаром же все русские президенты выбирают именно ИЛы. А всё благодаря исключительной надежности этих самолетов)))
Panch124 1 year ago
@Panch124 Will i have been flying for 33 years as a captain. I have been on the IL-96, and other type of russians aircrafts like the TU-154. Comparing a IL-96 to a A340 is almost not possible because the IL-96 is not that big on technology, or range, or cabin features. I have been on the plane many times on Aeroflot back in the days and i have had a discomfort feeling all the time. Especially the TU-154. American Made planes are just more common out their and reliable. IL-96 etc are just loud
WorldAirwaysMD11 1 year ago
@WorldAirwaysMD11 Thanks 4 info and good answer)))
Panch124 1 year ago
@Panch124 and old.
WorldAirwaysMD11 1 year ago
@bobnoxadrez There is no crushes with Il-96. Think u write dude))) Ещё раз напишу Думай, что говоришь, чувак)))
Panch124 1 year ago
@bobnoxadrez Yea.. alot more use the A340,but that doesnt make it a better plane than the IL96... The fact is that people have for some IDIOTIC reason given russia a bad name and reputation.. thats the reason they aint ordering russian planes... IF they gave the IL96,Tu204,An148 etc a chance,i would bet my pants they would like it,and see the fact that its really a VERY good aircraft! Russia build strong solid machines from from A-Z!!!
ollo1982 8 months ago
@ollo1982 No, the reason is that russian planes are generally not as fuel economical as western planes, Sukhoi Superjet is exception and many western airlines have ordered it. Even big russian airlines are changing to western planes because their russian counterparts eat so much more fuel. Ofc that doesnt make plane itself bad, but makes no sense to operate with them.
Pvjinflight 8 months ago 3
What is the price of this aircraft in the market?
ymanganelli 2 years ago
@ymanganelli Prolly around 20 to 45 mill in US cash
6V92TA 1 year ago
@6V92TA You on about an Il-96? They are between 50-60 million :)
j4cko56 1 year ago
i don't the runaway is bumpy as much as i think it's the reversers or something off the plane, notice when all the loud sounds of the engines reversers stop you don't hear anymore bumps... when i flew on bigger planes like the 744 i had the same experience but it was the reversers, not the runaway.
united39 2 years ago
The pilot did not use de reverses as you can see...
datoig 2 years ago
Wow that runway is bumpy! lol. IL-96 great plane!
rosshallam 2 years ago
does the plane shake this much when landing?
jeanbascout 2 years ago
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oh my god.......yeah no noises like airbus or boeing.. FUCK COMMY JETS. :) ~U.S.A.
highonfsx 2 years ago
admit it, my american friend, your aircrafts don't have imperialistic spirit in their appearance like russian jets do))
Shmacktop 2 years ago
what is that sound :-S :O:O after landing
destinationmu 2 years ago
hey ik zie dat je ook uit Nederland komt ! hey waar ging deze vlucht vandaan?? vanuit Amsterdam??
stasisnu18 2 years ago
Nee, ik ben met de IL-96 van Moskou naar Delhi gevolgen en weer terug. Iedere vakantie probeer ik met 'iets' Russisch te vliegen. Meestal moet ik eerst naar Moskou. Die vlucht heeft als vluchtnummer SU0229. Weet je gelijk waar mijn gebruikersnaam vandaan komt ;-)
SU0229 2 years ago
ahh ok ik snap het! wat cool! hoe komt het dat je probeert met iets russisch te vliegen?? ik heb zelf nog nooit gevlogen met ''iets russisch'' hehe maar zou het graag willen ook :) nou met die nieuwe sukhoi superjet 100 zullen we vast wel meer russische vliegtuigen zien denk ik. hey hoe lang duurde je vlucht van Dehli naar Moskou??
stasisnu18 2 years ago
Toen Aerflot nog met de Tu-154m naar Schiphol kwam, ben ik een keer of 5 naar Moskou geweest. Later kocht ik tickets naar Budupest, om vandaaruit naar Moskou te vliegen met de Tu-154. Ook ben ik twee keer met de Bulgaarse maatschappij Air Via op pad geweest. Zij hebben ook (nu niet meer) met hagelnieuwe Tu-154m 's gevlogen. Daarnaast ben ik ooit lang geleden met een Il-86 naar Bangkok gevlogen vanaf Moskou en weer terug. En twee jaar geleden dus met een Il-96 naar Delhi, een vlucht van dik 6 uur
SU0229 2 years ago
Drie jaar geleden heb ik een fantastische reis door Iran gemaakt. Ik heb daar heel veel gevlogen met de maatschappij Iran Airtours en die vlogen alleen maar met de Tu-154m. Dat was echt fantastisch. Nu wachten op de SSJ en op een maatschappij die ooit met een Tu-204 naar Amsterdam gaat komen. Daarnaast heb ik ook ooit in een An-12 gevlogen. Supercool. Wie weet gaan er nog andere maatschappijen de SSJ aanschaffen. Malev heeft er 30 besteld, wie volgt?
SU0229 2 years ago
Ja in ieder geval zoals je zegt die Iraanse maatschappijen vliegen ook met russische vliegtuigen en de SSJ wordt ook aangeschaft in Iceland air, Italy Airlines en Malev van Bulgarije, dus ja ik hoop dat er meer zullen volgen. Die SSJ is in ieder geval stiller en zuiniger dan de meeste vliegtuigen toch. Dus zo ie zo even afwachten :-)
stasisnu18 2 years ago
@SU0229 ohhhh ik hoop ook dat de TU 204's naar amsterdam gaan vliegen (ooitt???)
maar ze zijn nu bezig met de MS-21 vliegtuigen, een samenwerking van Ilyushin Yakovlev en Irkut ofzoeits, die zullen vast wel populair worden denk ik :-)
stasisnu18 1 year ago
@SU0229 From where was this flight? Also was there only Audio or were there TV's as well? And the bumping noise is the brakes?
SouthAfricanAirways1 1 year ago
@SU0229 aaa zo geweldig ik ben jaloers :-D
ik wil ook ooit met de TU 154 en TU134 vliegen!!! hehe maar ik moet wel opschieten voordat ze weggehaald worden
stasisnu18 1 year ago
OKay does the Airbus A380 have reverse thrust? If so on, how many engines?
CaptCosslett 2 years ago
Yes it does on 2 engines only the closer ones to the cabin due to its large wingspan because the engines can pick up objects from the grass....
5/5 awesome!
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
I would jump off a cliff with an umbrella before stepping foot on a cheap knock off of a Boeing.
DoubleGauss 2 years ago
DoubleGauss: The only thing Boeing has similar to this is the 707. The Il-86 was the base for the Il-96. But the 707 was a short range narrowbody jet. While the 86 was a large widebody. The Il-96 was an updated model that came three years before westerners built anything similar.
Clearly shows you know nothing about airliners. besides, i would rather fly on an IL-96 or a Tu-204, considering they have the best safety records among the world.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 2 years ago
DoubleGauss ssems to think the Russians stole all their airliner technology from America.
We8City 2 years ago
Boll shrt :))) you probably love yopurself tooo much :)) Russians and American aviations are separate!!! May in the last years it starts to exchange the technologies between each other.. also with airbus... Nowdays, the airplanes are building all together -Americans, europeans and russians... BUT, As for IL96 and before-models -don tell this shit what russians stole from Americans :)))
Dzyuba3101 2 years ago
it clearly has slat sounds
flyMarkus89 2 years ago
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dont like russian planes BOOO!
adamski895RS 2 years ago
awesome video ! Why no reverse after landing ?
fernousdu972 2 years ago
Reverse is not often used anymore, mainly due noise abatement and also due to better brakes on modern aircraft.
CaptCosslett 2 years ago
no!! they don't use it when there is runway to spare till the exit they are supposed to take. so rather than just stop for no reason and then go with only 20 knots they use the runway to get there faster. and the brakes would be toast if there weren't any reverse thrust.
paice95 2 years ago
actually CaptCosslett: russian aircraft have excellent braking capability, so they don't use the reverse often, to reduce wear and tear.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 2 years ago
Thanks, at least you do agree with me. Modern aircraft do not use reverse braking due to, better brakes and noise abatement.
CaptCosslett 2 years ago
Not correct though. western built aircraft still have to use reversers on landing. Russian jets can do without them.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 2 years ago
Okay, okay. you know better than me.(not) The main reason reverse thrust is not used is noise abatement. If Russian aircraft do have to use reverse thrust, how come the II-62 uses them before touch down????
CaptCosslett 2 years ago
A couple of things: 1) The Il-62 probably needs the reverse thrust because the plane may have a pretty high landing speed to start with. 2) Most Russian jets can usually do without reverse thrust because they have to operate out of less well-prepared runways than Western airports, and reverse thrust on a poor-quality runway can cause a lot of expensive foreign object damage (FOD) to the engines.
Sacto1654 2 years ago
And almost all western airliners use reverse thrust on landing. The Il-62 needs them since they have poor brakes.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 2 years ago
all the comments beyond about don-using reverses are wrong. The unusing of reverses is depend of Dispatcher can allow you to leave the runway. If you are allowed to leave the runway on the top (end)< pilots probably would to SAVE THE FUEL and dont use the reverse (its gonna collect to pilots perfomance about saving the fuel) and brake just with spoilers and wheels, if plane and situation can allow to do that from landing to landing..
Dzyuba3101 2 years ago
The Malaysia Airlines 747 I took from Kuala Lumpur to Melbourne Australia also rattled like this on landing at Tullamarine.
Realized that the pilot taxied at fast speed and braked hard once he veered off the runway.
SalocinTEN 2 years ago
listen to that thing rattle. Sounds like an old transit bus going down a bumpy street.
SU0229, all planes have flap sounds and every plane has wheel noise on both take off and landing. Normally, the older the plane, the more it rattles.
6V92TA 2 years ago
the sound of shaking is because the wheels brakes.
sebadmx512 2 years ago
i love the Il-96!
OLT95 2 years ago 2
so much for thrust reversers
whitemanb2 3 years ago
These aircraft have started operating here to the Maldives now. The ground workers who work on this beatiful jet are pretty lucky to experience a new type of jet! These aircraft are so great and I really wish to fly in one of these!
AlphaHydroxyAcid 3 years ago
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YOUR A DICK!
dkorda 3 years ago
go ahead and show your intelligence to the world asshole!
AlphaHydroxyAcid 3 years ago
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Yup.. already done NUM NUTS!
dkorda 3 years ago
I can't belive someone would compare this russian junk to western air craft, i would rather have a bumpy flight then fall out of the sky...wouldn't you?
ZodiacMATT99 3 years ago
No. Do you remember a deadly accident with an IL-96?
SU0229 3 years ago
This is the safest airliner in the world without a single incident. And all of the newer russian aircraft have 100% good safety records. And bumpy flights do not really depend on the design of the aircraft, but the weather conditions. I'd rather fly on an IL-96 than a 747.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 3 years ago
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paice95 2 years ago 8
there are much MUCH more western aircraft flying then russian though
Andrewfly24 2 years ago 2
To be precise, their crash rates are about the same, considering a total no.flying/total crashes basis.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 2 years ago
And many times it´s caused of bad maintaince...
Ty154Mlover 2 years ago 4
@paice95 only because there are much FEWER Russian aircraft being operated than Western aircraft...
ataramprat 1 year ago
@paice95 I agree. But the majority of all plane crashes by western aircraft are human error. Another factor leading to why Russian aircraft have a lower crash rate is probably also because of better trained pilots.
southwestguy223 1 year ago
@paice95 Don't be a fooking idiot.
miamad 1 year ago
@paice95 Actually its not. Il-86 and Il-96 have only few accidents because there is many times less of them built and flying than A340 and other western planes, so western planes have actually better crash rate than them. Tu-154 have much worse crash date than western modern planes, but im not blaming the plane, in soviet union they flied in bad maintenance and air safety, and now they fly in many developing countries with same thing.
Pvjinflight 1 year ago
A sleek and attractive airplane. Would love to fly aboard one someday. Sounds like SVO could use a good resurfacing of the runways.
CairnTerrier69 3 years ago
UGLY aircraft - Boeing and Airbus are the REAL airliners!
igniswizzard 3 years ago
of course, and they are so rare. You never see them!
SU0229 3 years ago
so igniswizzard: According to you, the IL-96 is a fake airliner, and this looks far sleeker than any boeing or airbus
AlphaHydroxyAcid 3 years ago
you are saying that the Il-96 is better looking than a Boeing 777, 787 or an A380 or A318 for example?!
igniswizzard 3 years ago
The A380 is the ugliest plane i've ever seen (but still, it's my most favourite aircraft). And these aircraft look totally different and are not comparable. Ilyushins are designed to be tough and airlines do not consider aircraft by their looks, but by their performance and capacity.
AlphaHydroxyAcid 3 years ago
I think that :D
TonyFirelli 2 years ago
It isn't always necessary
SU0229 3 years ago
Do they not have thrust reversers?
negvar 3 years ago
in civil aviation reversers always must be used when it's possible.
sebadmx512 2 years ago
Landing into Moscow from where?
davidphantomoftheope 3 years ago
Delhi
SU0229 3 years ago
no reverse? why? venezuela compro mierdas de esas
Manuelgunit 3 years ago
someone needs to bolt down the interior of that plane. i've never heard a plane shake so much on the inside.
steveoflyz 3 years ago
If the interior would'n make that noise, it will break down. Aircraft interiors must be flexible!
SU0229 3 years ago
i understand that the materials need to flex or else they'll break, but they still should be secured firmly so they don't rattle like that.
steveoflyz 3 years ago
I remember seeing a video where some people filmed the landing of an IL-96 (although it could have been its predecessor, the IL-86) and they filmed the interior upon landing and showed everything shaking like crazy, the roof, the seats, everything!
TheCosmicFrog 3 years ago
saw one where the roof almost falled down :P
thestalker01 3 years ago
IL 96 is a good plane, if you can watch this video here in youtube "thank you for flying aeroflot" you will see that the sound in the second 50 comes from inside, there is failure in the sealing of the aircraft.. I wander if a little welding would fix the problem for such a nice plane :)
edoardos1 3 years ago
Il-96 is the 2nd best plane for me, after the A380. I feel sorry for them as they're pretty much shaken up by those runways:D.
Good vid! Do you have the takeoff vid as well?
zedextreme8177 3 years ago 3
gostei de ver o video, nice video
luizpigeon 3 years ago
jaja, nice vidio, but looks like there's an earthquake inside the aircraft...
Tovarya 3 years ago
what a TERRIBLE runway! Forget SVO 2, repave this bitch!
ataramprat 3 years ago