If you have a look at the japanese real estate bubble, it has been deflating for 16 years. the prices now are starting to level off, but back then prices of housing was bid up to the point that the mortgages spanned generations into the future. i think this guy is right on. the japs have been experiencing what he is talkng about. if you dont believe what he is saying take a trip to japan and ask around.
Yeah, they'll give ya loan modification, only with insane closing costs that stretch your loan out to its max again. and you can pay and pay and pay , meanwhile your home depreciates more and more and more till 2015 and all your money is wasted. Hand the bank your keys and tell them good luck with your new home
what do you mean, eat his words? He was right on the money. This thing did not happen overnight. The air is still being let out as we speak, even with LOWER interest rates!
heh.. um, maybe they haven't popped, but the deflation is at the rate of letting the balloon go and its air out.. causing it to make a big fart sound while whizzing around the room flinging spit(from when you blew it up) back onto your own face. i think/hope australia is in for a normal steady deflation
this is an old video. We can officially say that the bubble DID pop. When Cali looses 28% value in 12 months, and there are 1300 foreclosures a day, you know this sucker imploded. POP!
Very good explanation of a specutive bubble. Remember it works both ways. Everyone now thinks it will never stop going down. Just like everyone thought it would never stop rising. A few years it will start all over again. Short oil now, you'll make a fortune.
Rome Italy here. Prices are down about 15% since last year, but still they approach 25 years of incomes!!! At top of bubble, they were 30 years... In the US you are pretty lucky...
I noticed that some people have moved into my neighborhood in the last year - snapping up houses that were at roughly 2001 values. They thought it was a wise move. IMHO that was a mistake, because they wanted to get in before someone else did. The trend is still going down, and I wonder how they feel now.
Y2K prices? Are you nutz? Even THOSE prices are wayyy, wayyyy to high. We are possible looking at the greatest asset lost in human history. Nobody can afford even the real-estate taxes, let alone the mortgage. Game over.
Pricing property is tricky. In big cities the price of property is set by the rental income. I'm in Boston and property is price 10-12 times the yearly rental income. So for example a 4 bedroom condo near a college in Boston gets about $3000-$3400/month to sell it quickly it's about 10X the yearly income. Some usually price it at 11X or 12X the rental income if they're not motivated.
The question I have is how much is this housing inflation is caused by upgrading and how much by upgrading. Lower income areas or least desirable areas will drop sharply because people who should only rent were able to 'afford' creative loans. Then the people who sold at that inflated price were able to buy in a nicer area and so on and so forth. Therefore, is it possible that prices will just stagnate rather than sharply fall?
With housing it's a lot easier finding the fundamental values. You look historically at what household incomes are vs what prices are. I think it's historically like 3-4 times annual incomes or something like that.
With Houses...according to a recent issue of Fortune Magazine, you use two barometers of fair value...price times rent or price times average income...both barometers were indicating a wildly inflated housing market in 2005...should bottom in summer 2012 per fortune.
@antipovertycultz ugh no there is no mass homelessnes inmbecile and there is no slavery suystem just atypical fascism out of the mouth of a tard. the only slavery is SS, wlefare, and etc. enslaving the working to the non the saver to consumer and the banks to consumer credit instead ot the way it should be business to free market producers to banks and and consumer to saver and producer who actually isn't distorted and malinvested becaus eof goiv regs, laws, taxes, incentives, deincentive,etc.
I ALSO consider it a social crime that a poor or middle class family be prohibited by politicians from getting decent modern housing by negating property ownership through politicaly engineered hyper-inflation. INFLATION rises rents and creates homelessness! any halfwitt economist and politician knows this.
Politicians use the mobocracy system in housing by charging taxes every year on the property you have already paid the day you cant pay you lose your house, like a mafia movie. By increasing taxes every year there would come a time
where you cant pay that high. The result would be mass homelessness for the middcle class and rising rents for the poor while wages stay low
Sadly, since we obviously no longer live in a captilist country, the Gov. is going to give banks all money they need to keep things realitively status quo. Banks will most likely freeze rates, because after all 4-5% is better than nothing, right? And this will be a slow decline. Unfortunatley for me!!
Just hopes the bubble lasts long enough for my sister to get out of her house. All my bearish talk finally got her to put it on the market, and Dallas real estate market isn't bad right now.
right on...people freak out over the simplist things...the market goes through CYCLES...there is no bubble. if people can't buy, it becomes a renters' market...and then when they can afford loans again, it comes back...for more info on how to make money in down cycles investing, subscribe to my channel
NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's on Monday raised its ratings on 31 classes of residential mortgage-backed debt sold by Bear Stearns Cos. (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) between 2002 and 2004, citing low levels of delinquencies in the debt.
S&P upgraded classes from 14 Bear Stearns deals, with ratings ranging from "AA-plus," the second highest investment grade rating, to "BB-minus," three levels below investment grade.
A few years ago - probably 2000 - there was an "expert" professor of something who had loads of coverage on the UK TV leardedly advising people that "now is the right time to sell your house". i.e. the bubble was about to burst. It didn't of course and I pity the poor souls who took this guy's advice seriously. They would have lost big money buying back into the market a few years later. The housing market (in the UK anyway) is a complex beast
Yep the idea that you can sit on your fat arse and make a million dollars just because the house you are in has trippled in value is such a false state of mind.
Here in Australia they claim price rises are due to lack of land. Yet only 0.3 % ,, yes not even half of one percent of the land is residential. It is like some kind of media promoted Drug...
That ballon is going to be letting out air for about 5 years...
Lack of land IN AUSTRALIA?? I thought it had the largest land/population ratio disparity of just about any country in the world. That's crazy if people were buying that nonsense.
i moved to california in 2002. felt pretty settled in 2005 and went house shopping. impossible! now it's 2008 and _still_ housing is 6-12x my salary (100K) so i guess it will either take an earthquake or patience on my part =)
I've been saving for 9 years now, my wife is pregnant, my rent is low but I need more space. I'm hopeful that prices in WLA come down 35% by this time next year, and I'll get in. Yes, the value will continue to go down I'd imagine but at least it will be more reasonable.
i'm in san mateo (bay area) and there is a lot of denial here. i've heard that it will take until 2012 for reality to sink in so i may not be able to wait (would hate to leave california though, it's so nice and the multicultural is fun).
good luck with finding one next year - maybe LA is quicker in adjustment reality?
This is such a amazing video, totally right.
lianxiang 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Selling real estate can be a pain in the ass. You're right!
RealtorAustin 1 month ago
This guy sure looks stupid now.
ComradeLibertarian 1 year ago
Actually pre-1997 prices.
deltapunk21 2 years ago
Spot on!
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seredamathew 2 years ago
I bet this guy feels stupid now
idigl7220 2 years ago
Very creative- ty for your efforts :)
jsmythib 2 years ago
Sound bout right to me
neanam 2 years ago
If you have a look at the japanese real estate bubble, it has been deflating for 16 years. the prices now are starting to level off, but back then prices of housing was bid up to the point that the mortgages spanned generations into the future. i think this guy is right on. the japs have been experiencing what he is talkng about. if you dont believe what he is saying take a trip to japan and ask around.
alpertdon 2 years ago
lol, n00b! Took about 6-12 months (2008) and the bubble popped!
LatinCross 2 years ago 2
LOL! Great video!
tike0rz 2 years ago
Yeah, they'll give ya loan modification, only with insane closing costs that stretch your loan out to its max again. and you can pay and pay and pay , meanwhile your home depreciates more and more and more till 2015 and all your money is wasted. Hand the bank your keys and tell them good luck with your new home
strawjam59 2 years ago
what do you mean, eat his words? He was right on the money. This thing did not happen overnight. The air is still being let out as we speak, even with LOWER interest rates!
cthelder 2 years ago
YUP!!!!
ohio1998 2 years ago
Boy are you eating your words now
crb4059 2 years ago
Like it, good explaination :)
dfjpr 3 years ago
yep, ready for that loan modification now ... the banks are ready to talk they are starting to humble themselves ...
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this video got my pusssssyyyy wweeeettttt!!! c me on cam! P
GanNepesure 3 years ago
heh.. um, maybe they haven't popped, but the deflation is at the rate of letting the balloon go and its air out.. causing it to make a big fart sound while whizzing around the room flinging spit(from when you blew it up) back onto your own face. i think/hope australia is in for a normal steady deflation
stitchyman 3 years ago
Turns out they do pop you f*cking idiot.
somme8 3 years ago
fake
Fakanga 3 years ago
this is an old video. We can officially say that the bubble DID pop. When Cali looses 28% value in 12 months, and there are 1300 foreclosures a day, you know this sucker imploded. POP!
snaxs2000 3 years ago 2
Very good explanation of a specutive bubble. Remember it works both ways. Everyone now thinks it will never stop going down. Just like everyone thought it would never stop rising. A few years it will start all over again. Short oil now, you'll make a fortune.
bauler 3 years ago 3
Rome Italy here. Prices are down about 15% since last year, but still they approach 25 years of incomes!!! At top of bubble, they were 30 years... In the US you are pretty lucky...
giemmeppi 3 years ago
I noticed that some people have moved into my neighborhood in the last year - snapping up houses that were at roughly 2001 values. They thought it was a wise move. IMHO that was a mistake, because they wanted to get in before someone else did. The trend is still going down, and I wonder how they feel now.
YouMuseMe 3 years ago
This guy would make a good sub for a 3rd grade class. Great props! ;-)
YouMuseMe 3 years ago 3
Y2K prices? Are you nutz? Even THOSE prices are wayyy, wayyyy to high. We are possible looking at the greatest asset lost in human history. Nobody can afford even the real-estate taxes, let alone the mortgage. Game over.
jci10 3 years ago
dude, you crack me up everytime. very informative. keep em coming.
ElCapitan1985 3 years ago 2
Pricing property is tricky. In big cities the price of property is set by the rental income. I'm in Boston and property is price 10-12 times the yearly rental income. So for example a 4 bedroom condo near a college in Boston gets about $3000-$3400/month to sell it quickly it's about 10X the yearly income. Some usually price it at 11X or 12X the rental income if they're not motivated.
cityhustler617 3 years ago
The question I have is how much is this housing inflation is caused by upgrading and how much by upgrading. Lower income areas or least desirable areas will drop sharply because people who should only rent were able to 'afford' creative loans. Then the people who sold at that inflated price were able to buy in a nicer area and so on and so forth. Therefore, is it possible that prices will just stagnate rather than sharply fall?
Thanks for any replies.
mongobobo 4 years ago
The question I have is how much is this housing inflation is caused by upgrading and how much by upgrading.
lol I meant to type:
The question I have is how much is this housing inflation is caused by upgrading and how much by 'new money.'
mongobobo 4 years ago
what a wanker.... predictive as well
beerytom 4 years ago
How does one determine true market "fundamental" value?
crb4059 4 years ago
With housing it's a lot easier finding the fundamental values. You look historically at what household incomes are vs what prices are. I think it's historically like 3-4 times annual incomes or something like that.
vmlinux 4 years ago
With Houses...according to a recent issue of Fortune Magazine, you use two barometers of fair value...price times rent or price times average income...both barometers were indicating a wildly inflated housing market in 2005...should bottom in summer 2012 per fortune.
EdwardRommel 4 years ago
not 3-4 times, more like 2.5-3.
As far as rent income, it is the annual come multiplied by 12-14
mongobobo 4 years ago
American democrats and republicans alike are fighting to create a slavery system through the creation of mass poverty and homelessness.
antipovertycultz 4 years ago 11
@antipovertycultz ugh no there is no mass homelessnes inmbecile and there is no slavery suystem just atypical fascism out of the mouth of a tard. the only slavery is SS, wlefare, and etc. enslaving the working to the non the saver to consumer and the banks to consumer credit instead ot the way it should be business to free market producers to banks and and consumer to saver and producer who actually isn't distorted and malinvested becaus eof goiv regs, laws, taxes, incentives, deincentive,etc.
deltapunk21 1 year ago
I ALSO consider it a social crime that a poor or middle class family be prohibited by politicians from getting decent modern housing by negating property ownership through politicaly engineered hyper-inflation. INFLATION rises rents and creates homelessness! any halfwitt economist and politician knows this.
antipovertycultz 4 years ago 2
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Politicians use the mobocracy system in housing by charging taxes every year on the property you have already paid the day you cant pay you lose your house, like a mafia movie. By increasing taxes every year there would come a time
where you cant pay that high. The result would be mass homelessness for the middcle class and rising rents for the poor while wages stay low
antipovertycultz 4 years ago
eerrrr.......what about foreclosures? interest rates goes up, monthly payments goes up, people cant pay....deliquencies....foreclosures.....now thats really gonna plunge the price fast!
how about price dumpings by developers?
masakmerah 4 years ago
Sadly, since we obviously no longer live in a captilist country, the Gov. is going to give banks all money they need to keep things realitively status quo. Banks will most likely freeze rates, because after all 4-5% is better than nothing, right? And this will be a slow decline. Unfortunatley for me!!
>:(
mongobobo 4 years ago
Any one who buys a house now is a sucker! House prices are still TOO DAMN HIGH!!!
damnright4 4 years ago 10
@damnright4 Jimmy McMillan? Is that you? From The Rent is TOO DAMN HIGH party?
Thisisforme2 1 year ago
Just hopes the bubble lasts long enough for my sister to get out of her house. All my bearish talk finally got her to put it on the market, and Dallas real estate market isn't bad right now.
MaverickCentricity 4 years ago
right on...people freak out over the simplist things...the market goes through CYCLES...there is no bubble. if people can't buy, it becomes a renters' market...and then when they can afford loans again, it comes back...for more info on how to make money in down cycles investing, subscribe to my channel
supercrunkalated 4 years ago
Awesome!
sharonafox1 4 years ago
Dude, you're awesome! You made this vid in March and you nailed it. Not just accurate, but funny too.
JP5466 4 years ago 2
That is what I like to see...economics boiled down to infantryman level language. Hot air "owners" be ready for a long, cruel ride DOWN...
lividmany 4 years ago
S&P raises 31 classes of Bear Stearns issued ABS
NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's on Monday raised its ratings on 31 classes of residential mortgage-backed debt sold by Bear Stearns Cos. (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) between 2002 and 2004, citing low levels of delinquencies in the debt.
S&P upgraded classes from 14 Bear Stearns deals, with ratings ranging from "AA-plus," the second highest investment grade rating, to "BB-minus," three levels below investment grade.
LuciusBrutus 4 years ago
That was an excellent, funny video! Now I understand better how the economy works.
hamsterama 4 years ago
Fantastic. Fantastic.
downwiththenwo 4 years ago
This guy ought to run for president!
InteriorCommando 4 years ago
overqualified
uSteltzen 4 years ago 4
wow...this guy is so fucking funny :). 10/10 for making such a boring topic so interesting.
thobui27 4 years ago
oil your chair please...
rubantin 4 years ago
yes! i couldn't agree more. i wish all of my stupid friends who got "exotic" mortgages watched this video before they signed on the dotted line.
badgrammar 4 years ago
Real estate is like the stock market...
It always goes up an down.
CreditTipVideos 4 years ago
"nothing can save people determined to grow suddenly rich"
mmouillar 4 years ago
A few years ago - probably 2000 - there was an "expert" professor of something who had loads of coverage on the UK TV leardedly advising people that "now is the right time to sell your house". i.e. the bubble was about to burst. It didn't of course and I pity the poor souls who took this guy's advice seriously. They would have lost big money buying back into the market a few years later. The housing market (in the UK anyway) is a complex beast
nagarner 4 years ago
Yeah, why are all these people foreclosing; they should just hold on because we all know real estate only goes up!
jjenson2006 4 years ago 4
Excellent Video!! Keep 'em coming.
vsutube 4 years ago
Great educational tool - thanks for sharing. I also really liked the rollercoaster video. Brilliant.
gordong156 4 years ago
Great presentation,
Yep the idea that you can sit on your fat arse and make a million dollars just because the house you are in has trippled in value is such a false state of mind.
Here in Australia they claim price rises are due to lack of land. Yet only 0.3 % ,, yes not even half of one percent of the land is residential. It is like some kind of media promoted Drug...
That ballon is going to be letting out air for about 5 years...
guslingus 4 years ago
Lack of land IN AUSTRALIA?? I thought it had the largest land/population ratio disparity of just about any country in the world. That's crazy if people were buying that nonsense.
uricehe4 4 years ago
Its true, They just swallow the media crap and goverment spin.
guslingus 4 years ago
Yes...keep it simple. Great clip!
rmsmith1126 4 years ago
Ha ha! Great!
Nu7bsRD9 4 years ago
Great video!! Right on the money!!
mmosieur 4 years ago
This is outstanding.
louminatti 4 years ago
This is one of the best dead on videos about the bubble I ever saw.
john67elco 4 years ago
Now that's nice now maybe i'll be able to buy i'm thinking 2009 or 2010 but for now rent til then.
champo36 4 years ago
My god, I hope it's quicker than that.
mongobobo 4 years ago
i moved to california in 2002. felt pretty settled in 2005 and went house shopping. impossible! now it's 2008 and _still_ housing is 6-12x my salary (100K) so i guess it will either take an earthquake or patience on my part =)
44pullups 4 years ago 2
I'm in Los Angeles, where are you?
I've been saving for 9 years now, my wife is pregnant, my rent is low but I need more space. I'm hopeful that prices in WLA come down 35% by this time next year, and I'll get in. Yes, the value will continue to go down I'd imagine but at least it will be more reasonable.
NickandThaisy 4 years ago
i'm in san mateo (bay area) and there is a lot of denial here. i've heard that it will take until 2012 for reality to sink in so i may not be able to wait (would hate to leave california though, it's so nice and the multicultural is fun).
good luck with finding one next year - maybe LA is quicker in adjustment reality?
44pullups 4 years ago
You nailed it... The end result is the same, just takes longer.
john67elco 4 years ago