I will keep my promise.I will disable any comments on this video.I will back to my village.I will active again if war happen.Jika Indonesia berubah menjadi negara Islam/Islamic State maka pada saat itu juga Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia sudah bubar.Pertahankan Pancasila!.Tuhan beserta kita!.Halleluya!!!.
which war will happen??? im sure that you and your people take lessons..and thats why you gave up ambon...please dont talk bullshit...everybody watched the news,common levitasi get real..
CHECK VIDEO: "perjuangan fpi mengamankan ambon" REMEMBER TRUTH ALWAYS HAS A TOUNGE!!!!!!!!!
mangkix(Big liar and terrorist),we never gave up Ambon.I was born in Indonesia.War will happen again if Indonesia become Islamic State.Most Christians in Indonesia ready for war again.Halleluya!!!.
kalau indonesia jadi negara islam,adakah org islam disana akan menyerang non-muslim?sy tidak tahu mungkin anda ada jawabannya. tp anda tidak perlu khuatir kerana islam yg sebenar mengajar keamanan dan sy tidak fikir umat islam indonesia akan jadi spt taliban.jangan kerana segelintir umatnya bersikap ekstrimis anda menyalahkan islam secara total.yang jahat itu umatnya bukan agamanya.umat kristian di ireland utara juga bergaduh kerana perbezaan mazhab.
akikazu87,permasalahan mengenai Negara Islam Indonesia itu sangat rumit.Ada sebagian muslim yang mendukung Negara Islam Indonesia tetapi ada sebagian muslim yang menentang Negara Islam Indonesia.Yang pasti adalah non muslim di Indonesia tidak akan rela menjadi warga negara yang di tindas.Kalau memang negara Indonesia akan di rubah menjadi negara Islam maka propinsi-propinsi yang penduduk aslinya adalah non muslim seharusnya di beri kemerdekaan agar tidak terjadi perang seperti di Sudan.
akikazu87,Irlandia Utara itu masalah ras/suku tetapi memang ada sebagian kecil pihak khususnya muslim yang berusaha mencoba mengaitkannya dengan mazhab tetapi hal itu tidak akan pernah berhasil sebab perang/konflik mazhab itu sudah benar-benar selesai ratusan tahun lalu sejak di tanda tanganinya banyak perjanjian damai antar mazhab.
akikazu87,muslim di Indonesia harus memutuskan sendiri ke arah mana masa depan negara ini.Non muslim hanya bisa menunggu hasil keputusan muslim di Indonesia.Kami sendiri sedang mengamati ke arah mana masa depan negara Indonesia ini.
jika indonesia menjadi negara islam ya biarkan krn majoriti rakyatnya adalah islam.anda harus tahu hukum syariah hanya untuk org islam sahaja dan ia tidak dikenakan kepada penganut agama lain.bagaimana negara anda hendak maju jika semua perkara mahu diselesaikan dengan senjata.
akikazu87,kami sudah meneliti tentang syariah Islam.Ternyata syariah Islam sangat menindas non-muslim.Perang di Sudan dan Nigeria terjadi karena penerapan syariah Islam.
akikazu87,muslim yang memulai perang ini.Banyak muslim ingin Indonesia menjadi negara Islam yang menerapkan syariah Islam.Mungkin sebentar lagi Indonesia akan menjadi negara Islam.Perang agama dan perang saudara akan terjadi di banyak propinsi jika negara Indonesia menjadi negara Islam.
levitasi you talking bullshit!! you people started the war..killed so many muslims..and then we are muslim from all over indonesia reacted..then you loose the war.....please dont trigger more war or you will regret it....
mangkix(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).Estimated 10.000 muslims(From all over the world) and 5.000 non-muslims(From all over the world) killed in this war.Christian militia(From all over the world)and non-muslim army(From all over Indonesia) always succesfully defended Maluku.We will go to war again if Indonesia become Islamic state.Halleluyah!!!.
you are about to bcome witnes..islam will rule again...not only indonesia but whole the world..at the end i want to hear your big ,liar mouth again....remember..lesson number one dont ever mess with muslim
hahahaha very funny....you were running like a chicken when we burned all your villages....check video perjuangan fpi mengamankan ambon..its true most of victim were muslims bcoz we are defended our self. the last you lost the war...coz we fought the war with the god our side...
mangkix(super big liar,crazy and terrorist),I already saw full version of that jihad videos.That jihad videos made in 2000.Estimated 10.000 muslim militia(From "Laskar Jihad","Jemaah Islamiyah","Al Qaeda","FPI","Jundullah","White Army",etc) and many muslim army attacked Maluku(Christian land).Many Christian villages destroyed(Tantui,Talake,Waii,Poka,Rumah Tiga,Duma,Galela,etc).
mangkix(Super big liar,crazy and terrorist),still Christian militia and non-muslim army won many heroic battles(Tobelo battle,Passo battle,Suli battle,Galala battle,Iha battle,etc) because Christ with Christian militia .Christian militia and non-muslim army succesfully defended Maluku.Then Indonesia government offered peace treaty.
levitasi goverment was not offered to you..but to muslim..tell me why they executed tibo????? and why non from the muslim side?????we bombed all your place, home, etc..beheaded your people, you r coward and you choose to peace treaty...am i right???remember you the one who started, muslim is minority there...but you live surrounding by muslim people so think about it..i dont want this happen again. islam is peace religion but dont push us!!
mangkix(Super big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).Indonesia government offered peace treaty to Christians and muslims.Some officers from Indonesia government always wants to massacre all non-muslim in Indonesia and declare Islamic State.Most Christians in Indonesia ready for war again.Halleluya!!!.
hacker2738,this video show the truth about this Maluku War.Some terrorists and radical muslims wants to start Maluku War II.Many muslims also wants Indonesia become Islamic State.Religious War in many provinces will start if Indonesia become Islamic State.
purbonegoro(Super big liar and terrorist),The Dutch never forced all Maluku to convert to Protestantism.Ternate Sultanate signed peace treaty with the Dutch.Go to Maluku if you want to know the truth about peace treaty between Ternate Sultanate and the Dutch.Most indigenous Ambon people were polytheism and animism before converted to Christians.
purbanegoro(Super big liar and terrorist),this video shows the truth about this Maluku War.Indigenous Maluku people are Melanesia(Not Javanese or Batak).You wants to massacre all Melanesian in Maluku because most of Melanesian are Christians.Christ loves Melanesian!!!.
belanda disambut oleh kerajaan islam tapi setelah itu mereka menginjak nginjak kita
baca sejarah sultan agung
kerusuhan yang anda sebutkan di surabaya tidak pernah saya ketahui cz saya tinggal di surabaya
trus apa pendapat kamu tentang TIBO CS YANG MEMBANTAI UMAT ISLAM KETIKA SHALAT SHUBUH, TAPI APA KITA MEMBALAS UMAT KRISTEN YG ADA DI JAWA TIDAK SAMA SEKALI KAMU PASTI AKAN MEMBUNUH SAYA KARNA KAMU ZIONIS PENYEBAB KEKACAUAN DUNIA JK KAMU DATANG DAN MEMBUNUH SAYA D SURABAYA MAKA SAYA AKAN SAHID
4riec,Sultan Agung dari Kesultanan Mataram menyerang hampir semua kerajaan-kerajaan lain di pulau Jawa termasuk Kerajaan Hindu Blambangan yang di bantu oleh Bali.Kerusuhan Surabaya 1996 terjadi di Surabaya utara.Kerusuhan-kerusuhan anti non-muslim di pulau Jawa sudah terjadi sebelum meletusnya "Perang Poso"(2000).Kami adalah milisi Kristen bukan zionis maupun teroris!.
kristen datang di Indonesia d bawa oleh penjajah kenapa kalian ikuti, berbeda dengan islam yg d bawa oleh pedangang arab datang dengan damai coba sebutkan satu ayat yg menyuruh agar menyembah jesus maka saya akan masuk kristen video ini penipuan besar besaran
karna saya melihat foto2 penyiksaan orng kristen terhadap umat islam
mentang2 islam di sana minoritas kalian siksa
padahal kristen minoritas di jawa tidak pernah kami apa apakan
4riec,Islam pertama-tama datang memang dengan dagang tetapi setelah kuat kemudian menyerang dan menghancurkan kerajaan-kerajaan Hindu.Belanda sendiri sebenarnya juga datang untuk berdagang.Beberapa kerajaan Islam justru senang menyambut Belanda.Baca alkitab terbitan LAI:
4riec,Daftar kerusuhan-kerusuhan anti non-muslim di pulau Jawa: 1.Kerusuhan Surabaya 1996. 2.Kerusuhan Situbondo 1996. 3.Kerusuhan Tasikmalaya 1997. 4.Kerusuhan Rengasdengklok 1997. 5.Kerusuhan Jakarta 1998. 6.Kerusuhan Ketapang(Jakarta) 1998. 7.Bom Malam Natal 2000. 8.Penutupan dan penggerusakkan massal gereja-gereja di Jawa Barat 2004-2007. 9.Penyerangan STT Setia dan Kantor PGI 2008. 10.Dan sebagainya.
4riec,rencana jahat untuk memusnahkan dan membantai non-muslim di Indonesia khususnya Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah pada tahun 1999 ternyata berakhir gagal meskipun milisi-milisi Islam di Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah sudah di bantu oleh sebagian besar tentara-tentara/polisi-polisi muslim Indonesia dan milisi-milisi Islam dari seluruh dunia.Masih banyak milisi-milisi Kristen(Protestan,Katolik,Ortodoks) yang pemberani dan siap menjadi martir di seluruh dunia.Tuhan beserta kami.Halleluya!!!.
balakaras(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
balakaras(super big liar),Quran Sura Al-Anfal verse 60:"Prepare for them whatever force and cavalry ye are able of gathering, to strike terror, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies, of Allah and your enemies".
LEVITASI, beta heran for ale... Ale sebenarnya ini posisi dimana? Coba ale liat ale punk comment2, kalo misalnya ada comment tentang MENA MURIA atau RMS ale zn comment, tapi kalo katong yang bicara mengenai INDONESIA ale paleng comment, and 1 hal... b zn pro muslim or non muslim... for beta NKRI HARGA MATI !!! Terakhir mungkin ale masih ingat dgn SEJARAH, MR LATUHARIHARI itu stands for sapa? INDONESIA atau BELANDA RMS? atau ale pikir dia PENGKHIANAT KRISTEN? dibanding SOUMOKIL ???
nkrihargamati,cara berpikir kita sekarang dengan mereka yang hidup pada zaman setelah Perang Dunia I(1914-1918) sangatlah berbeda.Pada zaman itu karena kemajuan teknologi yang sangat cepat sehingga akhirnya mengakibatkan agama tidak di anggap paling penting lagi dan mulai di tinggalkan oleh manusia.Antara sekitar tahun 1920-1970 yang paling di anggap penting di dunia adalah ras dan suku.Namun setelah tahun 1970 mulai perlahan-lahan terjadi perubahan.Agama mulai di anggap paling penting lagi.
nkrihargamati,RMS tidak memakai bendera agama melainkan bendera ras/suku.Saya sendiri diam saja mengenai RMS karena memilih untuk bertindak netral.Jujur saja,Maluku sudah pasti merdeka dari dahulu jikalau RMS memakai bendera agama seperti Timor Leste.Saya sendiri selalu berkata:"Hanya sedikit orang yang rela mati demi ras/suku tetapi akan ada banyak orang yang rela mati demi agama termasuk saya sendiri".Sebenarnya tahun 2002 itu kalau gereja mendukung maka dengan mudah Maluku sudah merdeka.
nkrihargamati,terus terang kami(Umat Kristen) terkejut perang agama seperti itu bisa terjadi.Kami sangat tidak siap berperang pada waktu itu.Karena itu kami tidak bisa memberikan perlawanan yang sengit pada awal perang.Setelah berlalunya waktu maka kami mulai siap untuk berperang sehingga banyak pertempuran yang berhasil kami menangkan.Tetapi hal tersebut berbeda dengan situasi sekarang di mana mayoritas dari kami sudah siap untuk berperang lagi.Kalian yang memaksa kami menjadi seperti ini.
nkrihargamati,semoga pemerintah Indonesia yang baru bisa mencabut semua UU yang merugikan non-muslim.Tampaknya Partai Demokrasi Indonesia-Perjuangan adalah satu-satunya partai yang bisa di harapkan untuk hal ini.
nkrihargamati,memangnya siapa orang-orang yang memakai ikat kepala putih yang menyerang dan membakar gereja di Silale pada Idul Fitri 1999?.Sudah terbukti bahwa muslim yang memulai perang ini.Islam pertama-tama datang memang dengan dagang tetapi setelah kuat kemudian menyerang dan menghancurkan kerajaan-kerajaan Hindu.Belanda sendiri sebenarnya juga datang untuk berdagang.Beberapa kerajaan Islam justru senang menyambut Belanda.Agama Kristen sudah ada di Arab jauh sebelum agama Islam muncul.
nkrihargamati & freeyork72,kalian ini idiot atau pura-pura idiot supaya kami lengah?.Kami tidak bisa kalian tipu.Pemerintah Indonesia yang sekarang sudah memasang bom waktu yang akan siap meledak dalam waktu dekat.Saya heran karena kalian pura-pura terkejut dalam peristiwa kerusuhan Medan yang baru saja terjadi.Jujur saja,pemerintah Indonesia yang sekarang adalah yang paling anti non-muslim.Banyak peraturan yang merugikan non-muslim di sahkan.
Jika hal seperti ini di teruskan maka semua non-muslim di Indonesia umurnya paling lama hanya 10 tahun.Pada waktu itu hanya ada 3 pilihan bagi kami yaitu:melarikan diri ke luar negeri,menjadi muslim atau berperang habis-habisan.Terus terang,kami jauh lebih suka masa pemerintahan Gus Dur dan Megawati meskipun waktu itu justru terjadi perang agama.Damai yang kalian ciptakan pada masa ini hanyalah persiapan menjelang perang secara besar-besaran yang akan terjadi pada masa depan.
Kami sangat berharap pemerintahan Indonesia yang baru pada masa mendatang bisa mencabut semua undang-undang yang merugikan non-muslim.Dengan demikian akan tercipta keadaan yang benar-benar damai bukan cuma sekedar ilusi.
Sekali lagi NKRI Harga Mati..... saya memang bukang org ambon, tapi Bugis-Makassar..tapi punya banyak saudara di tulehu sama batu merah.... bnyak yg beda agama, tapi damai2 saja
Poin tambahan, intinya STOP ALE PUNK PROPAGANDA dgn ale punk VIDEO2 ini, zn ada guna... karena mustinya ALE MALU, biar tutup MATA dgn TALINGA lai, EVERYBODY KNOWS SAPA YG MO MERDEKA? SAPA YG TERTINDAS? SAPA YG MO DAMAI? dan SAPA YG DIBALIK INI SEMUA? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME AS A PRIEST, karena seorang PEMIMPIN UMAT tidak akan mengadu dombakan UMATNYA dengan mengingatkan KHALAYAK RAMAI akan TRAGEDI KEMANUSIAAN di MASA LALU, seharusnya ale UPLOAD yg berkaitan dengan VALENTINE, coz it tells LOVE!
Untuk Poin nomor 3 dan 4, kayaknya sudah terjawab di poin beta sebelumnya, KATONG SAMUA MO DAMAI, itu terlihat pada 2x PILKADA, yg pemenangnya pemimpinnya dari "KALIAN".. dan kita MUSLIM... kita lebih BERDEMOKRASI dgn menerimax tanpa RIBUT2 dgn aman dan damai, untuk itu bilang for ale punk sodara2 di GEREJA dan di FKM maupun di BELANDA, jang coba2 usaha 4 MERDEKA... KARNA KATONG PUNK KESABARAN JUGA ADA BATASNYA !!! NKRI HARGA MATI !!!
Bung, bETA ni AMBON ASLI !!! Zn ada yg mo bikin Negara Islam Indonesia, kalo mau sudah sejak rezim lama, tapi Indonesia ini UNIK karena keragaman dari agama maupun budaya di mata DUNIA, sudah sejak 2004 telah terjadi perdamaian di ambon, dgn UPLOAD barang model bagini, mustinya ale malu.. krn ketauan sapa yg mo merdeka, sapa yg mo damai dan sapa yg mo perang agama, dan sapa yg punya misionaris2 diseluru penjuru dunia, ingat SEJARAH, islam masuk lewat PERDAGANGAN dan dtg lbh dulu, sdgkn BELANDA?
So what about FKM... kita bisa lihat kan? coba cek websitenya !!! Anda ini CALON PENDETA atau memang Provokator, Anda pasti ingat betul apa yang terjadi pada awal mulanya, kejadian ini terjadi pada saat HARI RAYA IDUL FITRI di tahun 1999, dimana kalian sudah siap dengan ikat kepala merah dan parang dimana2, sedangkan MUSLIM hanya terpojok di rumah2 dgn kue dan coca cola, apakah ini USAHA UNTUK MEMBUAT NEGARA ISLAM INDONESIA? atau ini usaha KRISTEN untuk DOMBA2 YANG HILANG? maaf kami MANUSIA !
BR4WIJAYA & nkrihargamati,tujuan saya upload video ini adalah:
1.Bagi seluruh umat Kristen di Indonesia(Protestan & Katolik):"Kristus berserta kita!.Ingatlah wilayah-wilayah Kristen di Timur Tengah,Afrika dan Eropa sampai saat ini masih bisa tetap bertahan dari serangan-serangan Islam adalah karena keberanian dan perlawanan terus menerus dari tentara/milisi Kristen di sana.Maka dari itu tetap pertahankan dan perjuangkan iman Kristiani kita.Halleluya!!!".
2.Bagi seluruh masyarakat Maluku:"Maluku memang berada di perbatasan(garis depan) Kristen(Protestan & Katolik) dengan Islam.Situasi perbatasan non-muslim dengan Islam(Lebanon,Sudan,Nigeria,Philipina,India,Thailand,China dan sebagainya) di seluruh dunia seringkali mudah membuat terjadinya perang agama di sana".
3.Bagi semua orang:"Inilah yang sebenarnya terjadi di Maluku.Telah terjadi perang agama.Memang Maluku adalah perbatasan Kristen(Protestan & Katolik) dengan Islam sehingga jangan heran dan bingung sebab memang demikianlah situasi perbatasan non-muslim dengan Islam di seluruh dunia".
4.Bagi seluruh muslim:"Kami(Umat Kristen di Indonesia) hanya ingin hidup dalam damai.Hentikan semua usaha-usaha untuk merubah negara ini menjadi Negara Islam Indonesia.Ingatlah bahwa kesabaran kami(Umat Kristen di Indonesia) ada batasnya".
Bung ose ni tolol ka bodo? kalo ose skolah di teologi, pastinya yg ose pelajari tentang cinta dan kasih sayang sesama... no kanapa ose upload barang bagini lai? sama aja pengen MALUKU merdeka, sampe kiamat pun ini ambon katong zn kas biar merdeka. NKRI HARGA MATI!!! Biarlah katong samua hidup dalam keragaman dan kemajemukan.. manusia diciptakan berbeda2 bung, zn ada yg sama... kalo sama semua yg ada di dunia ini jadi aneh... selalu ada yin dan yang'nya...
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),Kopassus bukan kaum militan.Semua orang Indonesia pasti tahu yang di maksud dengan Kopassus.Tampaknya kamu merupakan provokator asing(Mungkin dari Malaysia atau Afghanistan) yang ingin membuat perang terjadi lagi.Tanya saja kepada mata-mata muslim yang telah kalian sebar di mana-mana tentang siapakah yang merencanakan perang ini.Aku sudah melihat sendiri di kampusku saja ada sedikitnya 4 mata-mata muslim.Bahkan seorang di antaranya adalah pendeta.
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),mata-mata muslim tersebut seringkali membuat kekacauan di banyak gereja-gereja,mengadu domba antar gereja-gereja,merendahkan/menghina gereja-gereja dan memuja-muja Islam.Aku sendiri pernah bertengkar dengan beberapa mata-mata muslim tersebut.Lucunya semua provokasi-provokasi itu terjadi di dalam kampus teologi yang seharusnya bebas dari muslim.Untung saja saat ini masih dalam situasi perdamaian jika tidak mungkin kami sudah "menenangkan" mereka.
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),mayoritas orang-orang Kristen di Indonesia benar-benar cinta damai bahkan ada sebagian yang malah sangat takut kepada muslim.Orang-orang Kristen penakut tersebut(Kebanyakan tinggal di pulau Jawa) bahkan mungkin rela untuk menunduk kepada kalian bahkan kalau perlu menjilat sepatu kalian agar bisa di biarkan hidup dengan aman dan tentram.
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),salah satu buktinya adalah Partai Damai Sejahtera(PDS) mengecam habis Israel yang seringkali membantu orang-orang Kristen(Khususnya di Lebanon) dan membela Hamas yang justru sangat membenci non-muslim.Sangatlah tidak mungkin "Perang Maluku" ini di rencanakan oleh orang-orang Kristen.Justru bukti-bukti menunjukkan bahwa muslim yang merencanakan perang ini.Terus terang aku sangat kecewa dengan PDS.Pada pemilu mendatang aku tidak akan mencoblos PDS lagi.
mengenai siapa yg rencanakan kerusuhan tu beta seng mau bahas. BASI, tapi katong TAU SAMA TAU sjlah
TOLOL skrg ni mau pemilu,semua pasti berlomba2 tuk cari simpati...mungkin os su talalu GOBLOK smp sg menyadari kl tindakan PDS tu biar dapat suara.
mengenai mata2 di os pung kampus, sg usah ngarang.
klo os blg beta provokator asing, os tuh provokator MUNAFIK, b seng mgkn ksh komen pembelaan kl os sg menyudutkan islam dgn os pung komen2 BODOH, PAHAM!!!
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing?),mungkin kamu ini salah satu pengurusnya PDS sebab bisa tahu bahwa itu adalah taktik untuk mencari simpati.Mayoritas orang-orang Kristen di Indonesia dan luar negeri selalu berusaha untuk netral dalam hal "Perang Gaza"(Ada yang menyalahkan kedua pihak tetapi juga ada yang tidak menyalahkan siapapun).Lucunya PDS justru tidak netral dan berpihak pada Hamas(anti non-muslim).Seharusnya PDS malu pada kepengecutannya atau berubah saja sekalian menjadi partai Islam.
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing?),tentunya kalian mempunyai mata-mata di pihak kami sebagaimana kami mempunyai mata-mata di pihak kalian.Tetapi mata-mata kalian sudah sangat keterlaluan dan terus memprovokasi.Mengenai masalah komentar sebenarnya aku hanya menanggapi komentar-komentar dari rekan-rekanmu saja.Makanya kalau tidak ingin memperpanjang masalah lebih baik kalian tidak usah berkomentar sehingga dengan demikian aku juga tidak usah menanggapi komentar-komentar kalian.
bang ngapain sih Islam2an Kristen2an kalo hasil nya tawuran bunuh2an. percuma damai aja napa. ya gini ini vidio2 provokator bikin rusuh. mending wirausaha cari kerja cari makan. yang anak2 rajin sekolah. damai dah. percuma anda2 Kristen Islam tapi gak cinta damai. lagi pula apa anda2 semua yakin kalo keIslaman dan keKristenan anda itu sah. sapa tau Tuhan menganggap anda2 masih Kafir. Piss.
putrabite,video ini justru untuk menunjukkan sesungguhnya yang telah terjadi di Maluku.Darah ribuan para martir Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik) telah tertumpah di Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah demi berjuang mempertahankan iman Kristiani.Berkat perjuangan semua milisi-milisi Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik)di Indonesia termasuk non-muslim(Hindu & Buddha) yang telah ikut berjuang maka sampai pada hari ini negara Indonesia masih tetap merupakan negara sekuler yang menjunjung kebebasan beragama.
putrabite,video ini di buat agar semua orang menghargai\mengerti harga dari sebuah perdamaian dan kebebasan beragama di Indonesia.Harga tersebut telah di bayar oleh darah ribuan para martir Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik)di Indonesia.
BR4WIJAYA,desa Air Salobar dan daerah Ponegoro itu bukan kampung muslim tetapi merupakan desa campuran.Yang kamu katakan itu justru terbalik.Mesjid-mesjid dan rumah-rumah muslim di desa Air Salobar banyak yang hancur.Kalian sudah merencanakan peperangan ini.Buktinya adalah milisi-milisi Islam dalam waktu sekejap bisa menyerang dengan cepat ke desa-desa Kristen secara hampir bersamaan pada hari pertama di mulainya perang ini.
BR4WIJAYA,bom di KM California dan Batumeja itu memang salahnya muslim.Aku tidak mengikuti persidangan geng Coker sehingga tidak tahu apakah memang benar mereka pelakunya.Seandainya memang benar geng Coker pelakunya tetap saja yang salah adalah muslim sebab hal itu berarti geng Coker sudah murtad/mualaf karena sudah membunuh banyak milisi-milisi Kristen di KM California.Menurut kabarnya memang ketua geng Coker mengaku telah di bayar dan di latih oleh Kopassus yang muslim.
exlcrew,kita sudah berhasil menahan dan mematahkan serangan-serangan muslim(Ingatlah Pertempuran di kota Tobelo,Pertempuran di desa Passo,Pertempuran di desa Suli,Pertempuran di desa Galala,Pertempuran di desa Iha,dll).Korban dari pihak mereka jauh lebih banyak daripada korban di pihak kita meskipun mereka sudah di bantu oleh sebagian besar tentara dan polisi Indonesia yang beragama muslim.Kristus selalu bersama kita.Halleluya!!!.
Christian came to Maluku by Saint Francis Xavier.Many indigenous Maluku people(Including some muslim) converted to Christianity because Saint Francis Xavier evangelization.Today,most indigenous Maluku people are Christians(Jesus Christ love Maluku people).Go to Ambon island,Saparua island,Seram island,Aru island,Halmahera island and you will see many Jawa(Java) and South Sulawesi transmigrant/imigrant.Most indigenous Jawa and South Sulawesi people are muslim.
9 December 2008(yesterday),christians in Masohi city,Seram Island attacked by estimated at least 500 muslims militia(From "Forum Komunikasi Umat Islam Maluku Tengah").Christians fight back.Estimated at least 1 church and 67 houses burned.6 injured.Pesan untuk orang-orang Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik) di seluruh Maluku,waspadalah dan berjaga-jagalah di sekitar rumahmu sebab situasi masih belum aman.Tuhan Yesus Kristus selalu menyertai kita.Halleluya!!!.
Allah tidak melarang kamu berbuat baik dan adil terhadap orang-orang yang tidak memerangi kamu dalam agama dan tidak mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu sebab Allah senang kepada orang-orang yang adil.
Allah tidak melarang kamu berbuat baik dan adil terhadap orang-orang yang tidak memerangi kamu dalam agama dan tidak mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu sebab Allah senang kepada orang-orang yang adil. Allah hanya melarang kamu bersahabat dengan orang-orang yang memerangi kamu dalam agama dan mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu dan saling bantu-membantu untuk mengusir kamu ,barangsiapa bersahabat dengan mereka maka mereka itu adalah orang-orang yang zali.(Al Mumtahanah 8-9)
this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
m3ndoan(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
ey we cristians on maluku are withe thousands moslims in indonesia are with 260 million!
why the fuck cristians wanna begin a war!!
ever heard of the chaos complot!!
please do you homework!! many moslim leaders
in indonesia don't had even a proper education
there preach are not based on fact regarding moluccan cristians there are mostly payed by indonesian goverment leaders to bring hate toward maluku,aceh,papua,timor it's not even about religion it's POLITICS.
uknowiknowah,see video "INDONESIAN HEAD OF POLICE INVOLVEMENT IN KILLING MOLUCCAN".Go to "Maluku" and ask what happened there(Especially Duma village in Halmahera island).Duma village(Christian village) attacked by muslim militia and Indonesian troops(19 June 2000).211 Christians killed.Estimated at least 1 church and 200 houses burned.
uknowiknowah,almost all Christians and muslims declared this is "Religion War".Not all Indonesian troops aided the muslims in this "Religion War".Some Indonesian troops were neutral(Moderate muslims).Also some Indonesian troops are Christians,Hindu & Buddhist(Estimated 16-20%).
uknowiknowah,I will tell you more truth about this Maluku War.Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia especially from "Laskar Kristus" and Christians,Hindu & Buddhist Indonesian troops especially from "Yongab" defended many Christians cities and villages.Some Christians Indonesian troops also member of Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia.We succesfully defended Maluku.
uknowiknowah,Maluku still needs Christian militia because some renmant terrorist(from "Jemaah Islamiyah" and "Al Qaeda")wants to start "Maluku War II".Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia(Including me) always loves peace.
uknowiknowah,watches my favorites videos:"Ambon-Indonesia","Ambon's Religious Bloodbath","Spite Island" & "Uneasy Religious Harmony in Maluku" if you want to see "neutral" videos.
so its not Islam who started with terrorist organization.Its the Zionist Israeli's that u openly supported that starts it(the Modern Terrrorist Organization).Even Israel is a terrorist state.They occupied the land of holy Palestine illegally.
Don't blame muslims as the only terrorist organization in the world,there are also christian's extremists & jewish zionists that execute more muslims victims & killing innocents people.
the IRA(Catholic)
Stern Gang(Zionist Israeli terrorist group)
are the example of the bloody executers..
the Stern Gang exist way before Al Qadea,Taliban,PLO,PFLP..
and yet the Israeli govt can commend them for their "Heroic" acts of aggression on innocent people
kasiande,I am christian militia,evangelists and theologian.
So people how can 1 be evangelical(peace preacher) & at the same time advocate violence & aggression(Militia)?I juz think u are a weird guy.Who loves to propagandize people.I tell u what,its against the Geneva Convention to use Mass Media to spread propaganda.How about that?& here u are spreading one-sided bias story.If u are unbias then maybe i can change my words towards u :-)
So i say this...Fuck yourself Levitasi..Blaming only Muslims for the violence while u think u preach Peace..Fuck yourself..You are a Christian Militia as admitted by yourself..So you tend to use aggression to force people to listen to u..So how can advocating violence and aggression make u a preacher of PEACE??Unless VIOLENCE to u is PEACE that is..IDIOTS!!!!
heee .... stop baku malawang jua ... katong di ambon su tenang jang biking masalah baru lai ...
biar yang su lewat tu jadi pelajaran penting par katong samua ... jang laeng ka sala laeng lai ... nanti seng abis-abis ... sumbayang sa sesuai keyakinan masing-masing, ok?
Itulah Levitasi..Kenapa kamu tak ngerti??Asyik salahkan org Islam..Org Christian pun ada salah jgk..Dua2 dlm senario ini salah..Sudahlah,capek saya bersembang psl masalah yg lewat ini..
Becoz not only is it defamatory but u are trying to say the police(an aide of the government)is aiding them..so indirectly u are saying the Indonesian government is corrupt and bias..What rubbish..And policemen in Ambon are not only Muslims u know but consists of all religious beliefs(Muslims,Christians,Catholic,Hindu and Buddhist)So why shud a Christian police help to kill their fellow Christians in Ambon??
becoz i believe people like u exists and wont think it is significant enough..So stop being stupid and shut up and not spread anymore hostilities among the people there and it includes stopping the spread of ure crappy shit videos of Indonesian policemen aiding to help kill Christians...
This is my response to his response that the police were involve in murdering Christians
Hi there, Can u like stop spreading anymore bullshits??people like u are only escalating racial tensions there in Ambon..I wrote previosuly to say that both sides(Muslims and Christians are at wrong) and why are u telling me only from ure Chrristian perspective??I can always talk about the many (about a Million)Muslims who perish in the whole entire world but why didnt i??
Obviously Levitasi is an idiot i was trying to say two months ago that i was neutral but he kept on saying to me the Police were involve..Thats the worst rubbish i have ever heard of..
Rollan McCleary, was awarded his doctorate from the University of Queensland in Australia during 2003-MAY for his work researching the sexual orientation of Jesus and his disciples. He obtained about $33,000 US in funding from the government to finance his degree. He concluded that Jesus and at least three of his disciples were gay
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)
The passage in Isaiah basically prophesised the first encounter of Mohammad(P) with the angel of Gibril(a.s). Add in the account of Waraqas reaction after being informed of Mohammad(P) first encounter and testifies to his scholarly knowledge of the scriptures
Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to he who is not learned saying, read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Mikhailfong, Isaiah 29:12 DOES NOT prophecy about Muhammad.
1. Isaiah 29 is a chapter of announcing punishment on Israel.
2. And as part of the punishment we read that God will also take away the ability to read (understand) the holy word because they have disobeyed it for so long. In particular, verse 10 states clearly that the prophets and seers themselves will be put to sleep and no longer receive revelation from the LORD.
Would Muslims really want to say that this refers to Muhammad?The heart far from God, w/ worship tht is not according to God's will but according to wht men hv invented (v.13)& tht his inability to read is part of God's punishment? It is a sign of God putting a deep sleep on the people regarding spiritual matters, so tht regardless how knowledgeable they r, they would nevertheless be unable to read (comprehend) wht the word of God means.So be careful on the claim,it may back fire u.
When applying the Trinitarian explanation of the word Elohim, we find that God's presentation of His nature is incompatible with Trinitarian thought. Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God (El- -singular); Genesis 17:3 And Abram fell on his face: and God (Elohim- -plural) talked with him. God (El- -singular) appeared to Abram. Only one individual appeared in Genesis 17:1,
but in 17:3, that same individual, God (Elohim- -plural), appeared to Abram. Was God alone during one moment and accompanied by the other two members of the Trinity in the the next, while Abram continually saw only one LORD? This would be a very difficult feat regardless of the semantic side stepping. The method of explanation implemented by Trinitarians to avoid this potential contradiction in their doctrine is to believe that the triune nature of God was appearing to Abram and talking to him.
If Trinitarians do not interpret El to be the entire Godhead, then one member of the Godhead is claiming to be "Almighty" over the other two members. Does this manner of interpretation remain consistent with the basic truths of the Bible? It is not consistent with the Bible, nor with common sense!
The doctrine of the Trinity uses the word Elohim to give support to its argument that three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, can exist as one God.
Dictionary Of The Bible 1995 John L. Mckenzie "The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of 'person' and 'nature' which are Greek philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as 'essence' and 'substance' were erroneously applied to God by some theologians."
Why You Should Believe In The Trinity 1989 Robert M. Bowman Jr. "The New Testament does not contain a formalized explanation of the trinity that uses such words as trinity, three persons, one substance, and the like."
The Shema consists of three sections of scripture Deuteronomy 6:4-9, 11:13-21, and Numbers 15:37-41. It is called the Shema after the Hebrew word hear, the first word in Deut. 6:4. The Shema was to be recited twice daily once upon arising and once when going to bed. So the Old Testament Jews would start and finish their day with 'Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.'
"Neither the word trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
They testify, so far as they testify at all, to the supremacy of the father, the only true God; and to the inferior and derived nature of the Son. There is nowhere among these remains a coequal trinity. . . but no un-divided three, -- coequal, infinite, self-existent, and eternal. This was a conception to which the age had not arrived. It was of later origin."
The Church of the First Three Centuries 1865 Alvan Lamson
The modern doctrine of the Trinity is not found in any document or relic belonging to the Church of the first three centuries. . . so far as any remains or any record of them are preserved, coming down from early times, are, as regards this doctrine an absolute blank.
And yet most Christian churches continue to teach and believe the doctrine that God is a coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead, and that Jesus Christ is God, and that the trinity is "the cornerstone of Christianity".
Well maybe the doctrine of the coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead is deprived of any historical foundation tying it into the Christianity of the Bible and the Christianity of the first three centuries. However the historical information ties the trinity into various pagan origins.
If you follow the logic here then first you have Jesus Christ as God, then you have man totally depraved, and then you have Jesus Christ as man and God. If Jesus Christ is both man and God does this mean that God is also totally depraved?
...the council of Ephesus 431 said that "human beings are totally depraved," the council of Chalcedon 451 said that "Jesus Christ is both man and God."
Then three centuries after Christ the corrupt emperor Constantine forced the minority opinion of the trinity upon the council of Nicea. The Christian church went downward from there; in fact some of the creeds and councils actually contradict each other. The council of Nicea 325 said that "Jesus Christ is God," the council of Constantinople 381 said that "the Holy Spirit is God,"...
The idea of "God the Son" is Babylonian paganism and mythology that was grafted into Christianity. Worshipping "God the Son" is idolatry, and idolatry is Biblically condemned; it breaks the first great commandment of God of not having any gods before him (Exodus 20:3).
The early church worshipped one God and believed in a subordinate Son. The trinity originated with Babylon, and was passed on to most of the world's religions. This polytheistic (believing in more than one god) trinitarianism was intertwined with Greek religion and philosophy and slowly worked its way into Christian thought and creeds some 300 years after Christ.
Mikhailfong, eversince Adam & Eve mankinds are condemned and Satan rule the earth. I suggest u wtch those links I posted to u earlier since I can't explain to u due to the lack of space in Youtube. In the Old testament GOD reveal Himself as Elohiym (Hebrew: GOD-plural))Elohim existed already and he created everything else. Later GOD emphasizes in his covenant with Moses and the Israelite people w/ the name of YAHWEH (Exodus 6:2-4). So yes, they beileve in Trinity.
El is the singular form of the word God, when -im is added e.g. Elohim, it is made plural. When used to refer to God Almighty, Elohim is similar to a uniplural noun. A uniplural noun can be used to indicate an object in the singular or plural sense. Example: The word sheep can be used to describe one sheep or many sheep. Example: Deer. One deer was at the lake. Many deer are in the woods.
Mikhailfong, seems that you do not understand the Hebrew language. Clearly when Elohim is used like you said it means UNIPLURAL. Many but ONE Being. that's the concept of Trinity. 3 but 1. You need to learn Hebrew or Aramaic to understand the true nature of the bible. YAHWEH (often considered as GOD the Father) while Jesus=Yahsua (Hebrew which means Yahweh the Salvation).
Mikhailfong, on Trinity's case when you are talking about the Messianic Jews the answer is yes they do. But the Jews who believe in the Talmud the answer is no cause the Talmud rejects Jesus as GOD and Islam (Quran)bases largely on the Talmud. Remember Muhammad's 1st wife's (Siti Khotidjah) uncle? He taught Muhammad on the spiritual thing and he was a Christian who rejected Jesus as GOD.
her uncle is waraqa ibnu naufal...died shortly after Muhammad(P) had received the first revelation. but the revelation of Quran continued for more than twenty years his death.Sahih Bukhari Narrated 'Aisha(R): Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3
Mikhailforng, the 1st Talmud is only written 200 CE, so no Moses did not "believe" in Talmud. The Book of Moses is more known as Torah. Yes Waraqa died shortly after the first revelation but basically Muhammad's foundation on the spiritual thing was learned frm him. Cause even after the 1st revelation whn Muhammad was confused and scared Siti Khotijah brought him to Waraqa. Ever ask yourself why to Waraqa?
Mark 14:51-52 describes the incident when Jesus was arrested by the religious police. It describes how one of Jesus' followers was scantily dressed. The King James Version says he had a linen cloth cast on his naked body; the size and location of the cloth is not defined.
The New International Version says that he was "wearing nothing but a linen garment." When the police tried to seize him, they were able to grab only his cloth; the man ran away naked. Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men.
-Reverend Peter Murphy, "The Sexuality of Jesus?,"
Mikhailfong, the incident in Mark 14:51-52 is nothing more than a semeion, a sign-action symbolizing the "death" and rebirth of baptism.
1. the 11 disciples were at the Gethsemane at tht time and frm 4 gospels only 1 recorded this.
2.A sindon was a linen cloth used for clothing or burial. The word is used exactly four times in the Christian Testament: in the three synoptic gospels to describe the cloth in which Jesus's dead body was wrapped for burial
Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men.
-Reverend Peter Murphy, "The Sexuality of Jesus?," interpretation of that event according to christian priest
Mikhailfong, Rev Peter M may has different views. To understand the content of the Bible many times we ought to ask the guidance frm the Holy Spirit so that things will be enlightened as we read the scriptures. Mikhail, I'll post u a link to watch (it's rather long) discussion on how GOD can Exist as a man and why Jesus is being crucify. are you interested? I can't post it in Youtube cause YouTube has a limited running minutes on videos posted.
I can't believe it.... "describe the cloth in which Jesus's dead body was wrapped for burial"god---dead; well god is the same as human than...if god dead who control this world? satan?angel?
Mikhailfong, Jesus was physically dead frm the crucifixion for 3 days & He is risen again.Can a human raise frm the dead by himself?I guess not. Who control the world then?In Christianity we believe in the concept of Trinity. I saw tht Levitasi has tried to give you quotes frm the Holy Bible on how GOD (Yahweh) declares the trinity.We humans r created into GOD's image(Gen 1:26). Thus,the concept of Trinity co-exist in us; body, spirit & soul w/ each having its own character but makeup 1 being.
ok..why jesus- physically dead and raise again, what is the reason?, why god allow his son -dead.god is powerful right? and where is jesus now..why don't he come to us and stop all the war/madness that happen in this world and may i ask you; is trinity exist before jesus..?what is the religion of adam, abraham, noah, jacob, Moses, did they believe in trinity
Mikhailfong, eversince Adam & Eve mankinds are condemned and Satan rule the earth. I suggest u wtch those links I posted to u earlier since I can't explain to u due to the lack of space in Youtube. In the Old testament GOD reveal Himself as Elohiym (Hebrew: GOD-plural))Elohim existed already and he created everything else. Later GOD emphasizes in his covenant with Moses and the Israelite people w/ the name of YAHWEH (Exodus 6:2-4). So yes, they beileve in Trinity.
crucifixion is a myth..how do you know jesus raise from the dead?what is holy spirit..do you worship holy spirit too? god creates air too not only human...air consists of oxygen,nitrogen,hydrogen and etc..thus the concept of plurality co-exist in air..therefore god should be more than 3...
I will keep my promise.I will disable any comments on this video.I will back to my village.I will active again if war happen.Jika Indonesia berubah menjadi negara Islam/Islamic State maka pada saat itu juga Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia sudah bubar.Pertahankan Pancasila!.Tuhan beserta kita!.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
bodoh!!! dh ramai yg mati baru nk nyesal!!!!
pkir sblum btindak....
sylar9832 2 years ago
whos the guy talking in the back ground? hes annoying
TSBNT 2 years ago
I will disable any comments on this video in August 2009.I will back to my village.I will active again if war happen.
Levitasi 2 years ago
which war will happen??? im sure that you and your people take lessons..and thats why you gave up ambon...please dont talk bullshit...everybody watched the news,common levitasi get real..
CHECK VIDEO: "perjuangan fpi mengamankan ambon" REMEMBER TRUTH ALWAYS HAS A TOUNGE!!!!!!!!!
mangkix 2 years ago
mangkix(Big liar and terrorist),we never gave up Ambon.I was born in Indonesia.War will happen again if Indonesia become Islamic State.Most Christians in Indonesia ready for war again.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
kalau indonesia jadi negara islam,adakah org islam disana akan menyerang non-muslim?sy tidak tahu mungkin anda ada jawabannya. tp anda tidak perlu khuatir kerana islam yg sebenar mengajar keamanan dan sy tidak fikir umat islam indonesia akan jadi spt taliban.jangan kerana segelintir umatnya bersikap ekstrimis anda menyalahkan islam secara total.yang jahat itu umatnya bukan agamanya.umat kristian di ireland utara juga bergaduh kerana perbezaan mazhab.
akikazu87 2 years ago
akikazu87,permasalahan mengenai Negara Islam Indonesia itu sangat rumit.Ada sebagian muslim yang mendukung Negara Islam Indonesia tetapi ada sebagian muslim yang menentang Negara Islam Indonesia.Yang pasti adalah non muslim di Indonesia tidak akan rela menjadi warga negara yang di tindas.Kalau memang negara Indonesia akan di rubah menjadi negara Islam maka propinsi-propinsi yang penduduk aslinya adalah non muslim seharusnya di beri kemerdekaan agar tidak terjadi perang seperti di Sudan.
Levitasi 2 years ago
akikazu87,Irlandia Utara itu masalah ras/suku tetapi memang ada sebagian kecil pihak khususnya muslim yang berusaha mencoba mengaitkannya dengan mazhab tetapi hal itu tidak akan pernah berhasil sebab perang/konflik mazhab itu sudah benar-benar selesai ratusan tahun lalu sejak di tanda tanganinya banyak perjanjian damai antar mazhab.
Levitasi 2 years ago
akikazu87,muslim di Indonesia harus memutuskan sendiri ke arah mana masa depan negara ini.Non muslim hanya bisa menunggu hasil keputusan muslim di Indonesia.Kami sendiri sedang mengamati ke arah mana masa depan negara Indonesia ini.
Levitasi 2 years ago
anda tidak mengerti apa itu konsep negara islam.
jika indonesia menjadi negara islam ya biarkan krn majoriti rakyatnya adalah islam.anda harus tahu hukum syariah hanya untuk org islam sahaja dan ia tidak dikenakan kepada penganut agama lain.bagaimana negara anda hendak maju jika semua perkara mahu diselesaikan dengan senjata.
akikazu87 2 years ago
akikazu87,kami sudah meneliti tentang syariah Islam.Ternyata syariah Islam sangat menindas non-muslim.Perang di Sudan dan Nigeria terjadi karena penerapan syariah Islam.
Levitasi 2 years ago
korban yang paling ramai di ambon adalah orang muslim,jadi teroris yg sebenar adalh org kristian
mereka ingin menjadikn ambon sebuah negara kristian dan menghapuskan semua org islam di sana ini adalah fakta.kristian ambon adalah teroris yg kejam
akikazu87 2 years ago
akikazu87,muslim yang memulai perang ini.Banyak muslim ingin Indonesia menjadi negara Islam yang menerapkan syariah Islam.Mungkin sebentar lagi Indonesia akan menjadi negara Islam.Perang agama dan perang saudara akan terjadi di banyak propinsi jika negara Indonesia menjadi negara Islam.
Levitasi 2 years ago
levitasi you talking bullshit!! you people started the war..killed so many muslims..and then we are muslim from all over indonesia reacted..then you loose the war.....please dont trigger more war or you will regret it....
mangkix 2 years ago
mangkix(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).Estimated 10.000 muslims(From all over the world) and 5.000 non-muslims(From all over the world) killed in this war.Christian militia(From all over the world)and non-muslim army(From all over Indonesia) always succesfully defended Maluku.We will go to war again if Indonesia become Islamic state.Halleluyah!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
mangkix(big liar),see youtube video:
Anti-Pornography Law - Indonesia
Levitasi 2 years ago
you are about to bcome witnes..islam will rule again...not only indonesia but whole the world..at the end i want to hear your big ,liar mouth again....remember..lesson number one dont ever mess with muslim
mangkix 2 years ago
hahahaha very funny....you were running like a chicken when we burned all your villages....check video perjuangan fpi mengamankan ambon..its true most of victim were muslims bcoz we are defended our self. the last you lost the war...coz we fought the war with the god our side...
mangkix 2 years ago
mangkix(super big liar,crazy and terrorist),I already saw full version of that jihad videos.That jihad videos made in 2000.Estimated 10.000 muslim militia(From "Laskar Jihad","Jemaah Islamiyah","Al Qaeda","FPI","Jundullah","White Army",etc) and many muslim army attacked Maluku(Christian land).Many Christian villages destroyed(Tantui,Talake,Waii,Poka,Rumah Tiga,Duma,Galela,etc).
Levitasi 2 years ago
mangkix(Super big liar,crazy and terrorist),still Christian militia and non-muslim army won many heroic battles(Tobelo battle,Passo battle,Suli battle,Galala battle,Iha battle,etc) because Christ with Christian militia .Christian militia and non-muslim army succesfully defended Maluku.Then Indonesia government offered peace treaty.
Levitasi 2 years ago
levitasi goverment was not offered to you..but to muslim..tell me why they executed tibo????? and why non from the muslim side?????we bombed all your place, home, etc..beheaded your people, you r coward and you choose to peace treaty...am i right???remember you the one who started, muslim is minority there...but you live surrounding by muslim people so think about it..i dont want this happen again. islam is peace religion but dont push us!!
mangkix 2 years ago
mangkix(Super big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).Indonesia government offered peace treaty to Christians and muslims.Some officers from Indonesia government always wants to massacre all non-muslim in Indonesia and declare Islamic State.Most Christians in Indonesia ready for war again.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
I'am christian
n this is propaganda video
I love Indonesia
we are peace now
hacker2738 2 years ago
hacker2738,this video show the truth about this Maluku War.Some terrorists and radical muslims wants to start Maluku War II.Many muslims also wants Indonesia become Islamic State.Religious War in many provinces will start if Indonesia become Islamic State.
Levitasi 2 years ago
dont talk bullshit or trigger the war!!! or you will loose the war again and you will deeply regret it....take a lesson...dont ever mess with muslims
mangkix 2 years ago
Bullshit.
THe issue in Ambon and Maluku is due to the DUtch.
In 1600's- the Dutch forced all Ambon/Maluku to convert to Protestantism- or be expelled.
The true Muslim rulers of Maluku who ruled Ambon were expelled.
This is why the conflict rages- the Muslim- Maluku, Ternate and Sulawesi- were Sultanates actually before Java became Muslim in 1400.
So thank the Dutch- who keep sponsoring terrorism in Maluku to access offshore gas for Shell.
Laskar Jihad is on the way. Allah Akbar yg cinta Jawa.
purbanegoro 2 years ago
purbonegoro(Super big liar and terrorist),The Dutch never forced all Maluku to convert to Protestantism.Ternate Sultanate signed peace treaty with the Dutch.Go to Maluku if you want to know the truth about peace treaty between Ternate Sultanate and the Dutch.Most indigenous Ambon people were polytheism and animism before converted to Christians.
Levitasi 2 years ago
purbanegoro(Super big liar and terrorist),this video shows the truth about this Maluku War.Indigenous Maluku people are Melanesia(Not Javanese or Batak).You wants to massacre all Melanesian in Maluku because most of Melanesian are Christians.Christ loves Melanesian!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
Total lies made up by Netherlands and Australian fags who want Maluku oil and gas.
Maluku holds estimated same amount as Ambalat.
Indonesian is ready to fight a war with Malaysia, Singapore and Australia to retain Ambalat.
What you think we will do to primitive Dutch anus-licker in Maluku?
We will incinerate every single living thing with thermobaric explosive then populate it with people who work instead of rape animals.
When Maluku is full of the Javanese and Batak- it wil be very rich
purbanegoro 2 years ago
And what you think Allah will do to the Javanese fags, the Japanese anus-lickers of World War 2?
Whipe dem hoes out with another Tsunami.
But you right tho, poor Indonesia ain't shit and ain't got shit without the islands of Maluku and West-Papua, fcking parasites
Free West-Melanesia. Viva East-Timor ;)
beniaminio777 2 years ago
4riec(big liar),this video show the truth about this "Maluku War".
Levitasi 2 years ago
belanda disambut oleh kerajaan islam tapi setelah itu mereka menginjak nginjak kita
baca sejarah sultan agung
kerusuhan yang anda sebutkan di surabaya tidak pernah saya ketahui cz saya tinggal di surabaya
trus apa pendapat kamu tentang TIBO CS YANG MEMBANTAI UMAT ISLAM KETIKA SHALAT SHUBUH, TAPI APA KITA MEMBALAS UMAT KRISTEN YG ADA DI JAWA TIDAK SAMA SEKALI KAMU PASTI AKAN MEMBUNUH SAYA KARNA KAMU ZIONIS PENYEBAB KEKACAUAN DUNIA JK KAMU DATANG DAN MEMBUNUH SAYA D SURABAYA MAKA SAYA AKAN SAHID
4riec 2 years ago
4riec,Sultan Agung dari Kesultanan Mataram menyerang hampir semua kerajaan-kerajaan lain di pulau Jawa termasuk Kerajaan Hindu Blambangan yang di bantu oleh Bali.Kerusuhan Surabaya 1996 terjadi di Surabaya utara.Kerusuhan-kerusuhan anti non-muslim di pulau Jawa sudah terjadi sebelum meletusnya "Perang Poso"(2000).Kami adalah milisi Kristen bukan zionis maupun teroris!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
kristen datang di Indonesia d bawa oleh penjajah kenapa kalian ikuti, berbeda dengan islam yg d bawa oleh pedangang arab datang dengan damai coba sebutkan satu ayat yg menyuruh agar menyembah jesus maka saya akan masuk kristen video ini penipuan besar besaran
karna saya melihat foto2 penyiksaan orng kristen terhadap umat islam
mentang2 islam di sana minoritas kalian siksa
padahal kristen minoritas di jawa tidak pernah kami apa apakan
4riec 2 years ago
4riec,Islam pertama-tama datang memang dengan dagang tetapi setelah kuat kemudian menyerang dan menghancurkan kerajaan-kerajaan Hindu.Belanda sendiri sebenarnya juga datang untuk berdagang.Beberapa kerajaan Islam justru senang menyambut Belanda.Baca alkitab terbitan LAI:
1.Matius 2:1-12.
2.Yohanes 9:35-39.
3.Yohanes 13:12-17.
Levitasi 2 years ago
Levitasi 2 years ago
4riec,rencana jahat untuk memusnahkan dan membantai non-muslim di Indonesia khususnya Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah pada tahun 1999 ternyata berakhir gagal meskipun milisi-milisi Islam di Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah sudah di bantu oleh sebagian besar tentara-tentara/polisi-polisi muslim Indonesia dan milisi-milisi Islam dari seluruh dunia.Masih banyak milisi-milisi Kristen(Protestan,Katolik,Ortodoks) yang pemberani dan siap menjadi martir di seluruh dunia.Tuhan beserta kami.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 2 years ago
hi levitasi,jesus will do nothing to you
he is only a human being like u
allah is great
christian people start the war first
so u a really bias
balakaras 2 years ago 2
balakaras(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
Levitasi 2 years ago
islam never taught muslim to do attack to any non-muslim.
so, jihad is only meanfull if we are being attacked.
so who are liar? you or me?
balakaras 2 years ago 3
balakaras(super big liar),Quran Sura Al-Anfal verse 60:"Prepare for them whatever force and cavalry ye are able of gathering, to strike terror, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies, of Allah and your enemies".
See:
1.Fitna(English)Part 1/2(Full 16min version).
2.Fitna(English)Part 2/2(Full 16min version).
Levitasi 2 years ago
LEVITASI, beta heran for ale... Ale sebenarnya ini posisi dimana? Coba ale liat ale punk comment2, kalo misalnya ada comment tentang MENA MURIA atau RMS ale zn comment, tapi kalo katong yang bicara mengenai INDONESIA ale paleng comment, and 1 hal... b zn pro muslim or non muslim... for beta NKRI HARGA MATI !!! Terakhir mungkin ale masih ingat dgn SEJARAH, MR LATUHARIHARI itu stands for sapa? INDONESIA atau BELANDA RMS? atau ale pikir dia PENGKHIANAT KRISTEN? dibanding SOUMOKIL ???
nkrihargamati 2 years ago
nkrihargamati,cara berpikir kita sekarang dengan mereka yang hidup pada zaman setelah Perang Dunia I(1914-1918) sangatlah berbeda.Pada zaman itu karena kemajuan teknologi yang sangat cepat sehingga akhirnya mengakibatkan agama tidak di anggap paling penting lagi dan mulai di tinggalkan oleh manusia.Antara sekitar tahun 1920-1970 yang paling di anggap penting di dunia adalah ras dan suku.Namun setelah tahun 1970 mulai perlahan-lahan terjadi perubahan.Agama mulai di anggap paling penting lagi.
Levitasi 2 years ago
nkrihargamati,RMS tidak memakai bendera agama melainkan bendera ras/suku.Saya sendiri diam saja mengenai RMS karena memilih untuk bertindak netral.Jujur saja,Maluku sudah pasti merdeka dari dahulu jikalau RMS memakai bendera agama seperti Timor Leste.Saya sendiri selalu berkata:"Hanya sedikit orang yang rela mati demi ras/suku tetapi akan ada banyak orang yang rela mati demi agama termasuk saya sendiri".Sebenarnya tahun 2002 itu kalau gereja mendukung maka dengan mudah Maluku sudah merdeka.
Levitasi 2 years ago
nkrihargamati,terus terang kami(Umat Kristen) terkejut perang agama seperti itu bisa terjadi.Kami sangat tidak siap berperang pada waktu itu.Karena itu kami tidak bisa memberikan perlawanan yang sengit pada awal perang.Setelah berlalunya waktu maka kami mulai siap untuk berperang sehingga banyak pertempuran yang berhasil kami menangkan.Tetapi hal tersebut berbeda dengan situasi sekarang di mana mayoritas dari kami sudah siap untuk berperang lagi.Kalian yang memaksa kami menjadi seperti ini.
Levitasi 2 years ago
nkrihargamati,semoga pemerintah Indonesia yang baru bisa mencabut semua UU yang merugikan non-muslim.Tampaknya Partai Demokrasi Indonesia-Perjuangan adalah satu-satunya partai yang bisa di harapkan untuk hal ini.
Levitasi 2 years ago
yang sudah tu sudah beb...ngok ngek kupundeng parang sekeper manal kupradey kalapoley pun dek ha..ha..kelakar kelakar.
batusebelas 2 years ago
nkrihargamati,memangnya siapa orang-orang yang memakai ikat kepala putih yang menyerang dan membakar gereja di Silale pada Idul Fitri 1999?.Sudah terbukti bahwa muslim yang memulai perang ini.Islam pertama-tama datang memang dengan dagang tetapi setelah kuat kemudian menyerang dan menghancurkan kerajaan-kerajaan Hindu.Belanda sendiri sebenarnya juga datang untuk berdagang.Beberapa kerajaan Islam justru senang menyambut Belanda.Agama Kristen sudah ada di Arab jauh sebelum agama Islam muncul.
Levitasi 2 years ago
nkrihargamati & freeyork72,kalian ini idiot atau pura-pura idiot supaya kami lengah?.Kami tidak bisa kalian tipu.Pemerintah Indonesia yang sekarang sudah memasang bom waktu yang akan siap meledak dalam waktu dekat.Saya heran karena kalian pura-pura terkejut dalam peristiwa kerusuhan Medan yang baru saja terjadi.Jujur saja,pemerintah Indonesia yang sekarang adalah yang paling anti non-muslim.Banyak peraturan yang merugikan non-muslim di sahkan.
Levitasi 2 years ago
Jika hal seperti ini di teruskan maka semua non-muslim di Indonesia umurnya paling lama hanya 10 tahun.Pada waktu itu hanya ada 3 pilihan bagi kami yaitu:melarikan diri ke luar negeri,menjadi muslim atau berperang habis-habisan.Terus terang,kami jauh lebih suka masa pemerintahan Gus Dur dan Megawati meskipun waktu itu justru terjadi perang agama.Damai yang kalian ciptakan pada masa ini hanyalah persiapan menjelang perang secara besar-besaran yang akan terjadi pada masa depan.
Levitasi 2 years ago
Kami sangat berharap pemerintahan Indonesia yang baru pada masa mendatang bisa mencabut semua undang-undang yang merugikan non-muslim.Dengan demikian akan tercipta keadaan yang benar-benar damai bukan cuma sekedar ilusi.
Levitasi 2 years ago
Sekali lagi NKRI Harga Mati..... saya memang bukang org ambon, tapi Bugis-Makassar..tapi punya banyak saudara di tulehu sama batu merah.... bnyak yg beda agama, tapi damai2 saja
freeyork72 3 years ago
Aih..aih... Taelasso ini ose yg pi upload ini video e!!!!
kanapa pi buka luka lama? Ose bodo apa tolo si?janganlah pi kasi rusak perdamaian di ambong...
freeyork72 3 years ago
Poin tambahan, intinya STOP ALE PUNK PROPAGANDA dgn ale punk VIDEO2 ini, zn ada guna... karena mustinya ALE MALU, biar tutup MATA dgn TALINGA lai, EVERYBODY KNOWS SAPA YG MO MERDEKA? SAPA YG TERTINDAS? SAPA YG MO DAMAI? dan SAPA YG DIBALIK INI SEMUA? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME AS A PRIEST, karena seorang PEMIMPIN UMAT tidak akan mengadu dombakan UMATNYA dengan mengingatkan KHALAYAK RAMAI akan TRAGEDI KEMANUSIAAN di MASA LALU, seharusnya ale UPLOAD yg berkaitan dengan VALENTINE, coz it tells LOVE!
nkrihargamati 3 years ago
Untuk Poin nomor 3 dan 4, kayaknya sudah terjawab di poin beta sebelumnya, KATONG SAMUA MO DAMAI, itu terlihat pada 2x PILKADA, yg pemenangnya pemimpinnya dari "KALIAN".. dan kita MUSLIM... kita lebih BERDEMOKRASI dgn menerimax tanpa RIBUT2 dgn aman dan damai, untuk itu bilang for ale punk sodara2 di GEREJA dan di FKM maupun di BELANDA, jang coba2 usaha 4 MERDEKA... KARNA KATONG PUNK KESABARAN JUGA ADA BATASNYA !!! NKRI HARGA MATI !!!
nkrihargamati 3 years ago
Bung, bETA ni AMBON ASLI !!! Zn ada yg mo bikin Negara Islam Indonesia, kalo mau sudah sejak rezim lama, tapi Indonesia ini UNIK karena keragaman dari agama maupun budaya di mata DUNIA, sudah sejak 2004 telah terjadi perdamaian di ambon, dgn UPLOAD barang model bagini, mustinya ale malu.. krn ketauan sapa yg mo merdeka, sapa yg mo damai dan sapa yg mo perang agama, dan sapa yg punya misionaris2 diseluru penjuru dunia, ingat SEJARAH, islam masuk lewat PERDAGANGAN dan dtg lbh dulu, sdgkn BELANDA?
nkrihargamati 3 years ago
So what about FKM... kita bisa lihat kan? coba cek websitenya !!! Anda ini CALON PENDETA atau memang Provokator, Anda pasti ingat betul apa yang terjadi pada awal mulanya, kejadian ini terjadi pada saat HARI RAYA IDUL FITRI di tahun 1999, dimana kalian sudah siap dengan ikat kepala merah dan parang dimana2, sedangkan MUSLIM hanya terpojok di rumah2 dgn kue dan coca cola, apakah ini USAHA UNTUK MEMBUAT NEGARA ISLAM INDONESIA? atau ini usaha KRISTEN untuk DOMBA2 YANG HILANG? maaf kami MANUSIA !
nkrihargamati 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA & nkrihargamati,tujuan saya upload video ini adalah:
1.Bagi seluruh umat Kristen di Indonesia(Protestan & Katolik):"Kristus berserta kita!.Ingatlah wilayah-wilayah Kristen di Timur Tengah,Afrika dan Eropa sampai saat ini masih bisa tetap bertahan dari serangan-serangan Islam adalah karena keberanian dan perlawanan terus menerus dari tentara/milisi Kristen di sana.Maka dari itu tetap pertahankan dan perjuangkan iman Kristiani kita.Halleluya!!!".
Levitasi 3 years ago
2.Bagi seluruh masyarakat Maluku:"Maluku memang berada di perbatasan(garis depan) Kristen(Protestan & Katolik) dengan Islam.Situasi perbatasan non-muslim dengan Islam(Lebanon,Sudan,Nigeria,Philipina,India,Thailand,China dan sebagainya) di seluruh dunia seringkali mudah membuat terjadinya perang agama di sana".
Levitasi 3 years ago
3.Bagi semua orang:"Inilah yang sebenarnya terjadi di Maluku.Telah terjadi perang agama.Memang Maluku adalah perbatasan Kristen(Protestan & Katolik) dengan Islam sehingga jangan heran dan bingung sebab memang demikianlah situasi perbatasan non-muslim dengan Islam di seluruh dunia".
Levitasi 3 years ago
4.Bagi seluruh muslim:"Kami(Umat Kristen di Indonesia) hanya ingin hidup dalam damai.Hentikan semua usaha-usaha untuk merubah negara ini menjadi Negara Islam Indonesia.Ingatlah bahwa kesabaran kami(Umat Kristen di Indonesia) ada batasnya".
Levitasi 3 years ago
Bung ose ni tolol ka bodo? kalo ose skolah di teologi, pastinya yg ose pelajari tentang cinta dan kasih sayang sesama... no kanapa ose upload barang bagini lai? sama aja pengen MALUKU merdeka, sampe kiamat pun ini ambon katong zn kas biar merdeka. NKRI HARGA MATI!!! Biarlah katong samua hidup dalam keragaman dan kemajemukan.. manusia diciptakan berbeda2 bung, zn ada yg sama... kalo sama semua yg ada di dunia ini jadi aneh... selalu ada yin dan yang'nya...
dasar CALON PENDETA KOK TOLOL !!!
nkrihargamati 3 years ago
letivasi,kamu lupa kampung kecil di tengah2nya yg bernama GG DIPONEGORO?
bgmn urimessing,mangga 2,ponogoro atas dibabat smp lari terbirit2?
apakah air salobar dpt kalian bumi hanguskan kyk kariu,benteng karang,ahuru,dll?
ktx geng coker dilatih kaum militan?
katax?dasar IDIOT,g pake KATAx
kalian RAKUS,maling becak2 tp gpp tukang becak di ambon sdh kaya jd di wariskan 4 yg msh KERE.
sprtx km sdh bohongi diri sendiri dgn mengatakan islam yg merencanakan konflik
tp Q maklum coz kalian mmg MUNAFIK
BR4WIJAYA 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),Kopassus bukan kaum militan.Semua orang Indonesia pasti tahu yang di maksud dengan Kopassus.Tampaknya kamu merupakan provokator asing(Mungkin dari Malaysia atau Afghanistan) yang ingin membuat perang terjadi lagi.Tanya saja kepada mata-mata muslim yang telah kalian sebar di mana-mana tentang siapakah yang merencanakan perang ini.Aku sudah melihat sendiri di kampusku saja ada sedikitnya 4 mata-mata muslim.Bahkan seorang di antaranya adalah pendeta.
Levitasi 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),mata-mata muslim tersebut seringkali membuat kekacauan di banyak gereja-gereja,mengadu domba antar gereja-gereja,merendahkan/menghina gereja-gereja dan memuja-muja Islam.Aku sendiri pernah bertengkar dengan beberapa mata-mata muslim tersebut.Lucunya semua provokasi-provokasi itu terjadi di dalam kampus teologi yang seharusnya bebas dari muslim.Untung saja saat ini masih dalam situasi perdamaian jika tidak mungkin kami sudah "menenangkan" mereka.
Levitasi 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),mayoritas orang-orang Kristen di Indonesia benar-benar cinta damai bahkan ada sebagian yang malah sangat takut kepada muslim.Orang-orang Kristen penakut tersebut(Kebanyakan tinggal di pulau Jawa) bahkan mungkin rela untuk menunduk kepada kalian bahkan kalau perlu menjilat sepatu kalian agar bisa di biarkan hidup dengan aman dan tentram.
Levitasi 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing),salah satu buktinya adalah Partai Damai Sejahtera(PDS) mengecam habis Israel yang seringkali membantu orang-orang Kristen(Khususnya di Lebanon) dan membela Hamas yang justru sangat membenci non-muslim.Sangatlah tidak mungkin "Perang Maluku" ini di rencanakan oleh orang-orang Kristen.Justru bukti-bukti menunjukkan bahwa muslim yang merencanakan perang ini.Terus terang aku sangat kecewa dengan PDS.Pada pemilu mendatang aku tidak akan mencoblos PDS lagi.
Levitasi 3 years ago
anggap saja beta sala tulis
mengenai siapa yg rencanakan kerusuhan tu beta seng mau bahas. BASI, tapi katong TAU SAMA TAU sjlah
TOLOL skrg ni mau pemilu,semua pasti berlomba2 tuk cari simpati...mungkin os su talalu GOBLOK smp sg menyadari kl tindakan PDS tu biar dapat suara.
mengenai mata2 di os pung kampus, sg usah ngarang.
klo os blg beta provokator asing, os tuh provokator MUNAFIK, b seng mgkn ksh komen pembelaan kl os sg menyudutkan islam dgn os pung komen2 BODOH, PAHAM!!!
BR4WIJAYA 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing?),mungkin kamu ini salah satu pengurusnya PDS sebab bisa tahu bahwa itu adalah taktik untuk mencari simpati.Mayoritas orang-orang Kristen di Indonesia dan luar negeri selalu berusaha untuk netral dalam hal "Perang Gaza"(Ada yang menyalahkan kedua pihak tetapi juga ada yang tidak menyalahkan siapapun).Lucunya PDS justru tidak netral dan berpihak pada Hamas(anti non-muslim).Seharusnya PDS malu pada kepengecutannya atau berubah saja sekalian menjadi partai Islam.
Levitasi 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA(provokator asing?),tentunya kalian mempunyai mata-mata di pihak kami sebagaimana kami mempunyai mata-mata di pihak kalian.Tetapi mata-mata kalian sudah sangat keterlaluan dan terus memprovokasi.Mengenai masalah komentar sebenarnya aku hanya menanggapi komentar-komentar dari rekan-rekanmu saja.Makanya kalau tidak ingin memperpanjang masalah lebih baik kalian tidak usah berkomentar sehingga dengan demikian aku juga tidak usah menanggapi komentar-komentar kalian.
Levitasi 3 years ago
trus maksudnya u upload vidoe ini?
u g tau mau kasi pembelaan apa,langsung masukin masalah partai, jalur gaza,itu di luar konteks!
MAKANYA BETA KAN SU BILANG OS,KATONG NI TAU SAMA TAU,JADI SENG USAH MUNAFIK
B TAU KOQ OS PUNG KARJA TU APA
KL MAU NGAJAK ORG TUK SIMPATI bt AGAMA u, PAKE CARA YANG CANTIK DONG
oh yA kyknya OS parlu baca bukunya Yvonne ridley ( wartawati inggris) judulnya DARI TALIBAN MENUJU IMAN
trus ga usah berapi2,beta pung koment 1, os sampe 3..LUCU banget , tp gpp b maklum
BR4WIJAYA 3 years ago
bang ngapain sih Islam2an Kristen2an kalo hasil nya tawuran bunuh2an. percuma damai aja napa. ya gini ini vidio2 provokator bikin rusuh. mending wirausaha cari kerja cari makan. yang anak2 rajin sekolah. damai dah. percuma anda2 Kristen Islam tapi gak cinta damai. lagi pula apa anda2 semua yakin kalo keIslaman dan keKristenan anda itu sah. sapa tau Tuhan menganggap anda2 masih Kafir. Piss.
putrabite 3 years ago
putrabite,video ini justru untuk menunjukkan sesungguhnya yang telah terjadi di Maluku.Darah ribuan para martir Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik) telah tertumpah di Maluku dan Sulawesi Tengah demi berjuang mempertahankan iman Kristiani.Berkat perjuangan semua milisi-milisi Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik)di Indonesia termasuk non-muslim(Hindu & Buddha) yang telah ikut berjuang maka sampai pada hari ini negara Indonesia masih tetap merupakan negara sekuler yang menjunjung kebebasan beragama.
Levitasi 3 years ago
putrabite,video ini di buat agar semua orang menghargai\mengerti harga dari sebuah perdamaian dan kebebasan beragama di Indonesia.Harga tersebut telah di bayar oleh darah ribuan para martir Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik)di Indonesia.
Levitasi 3 years ago
Islam itu tetap benar!
Allahuakbar!
amsyaralaauddin 3 years ago
Merry Christmas 2008 and Happy New Year 2009 to all!!!(Especially to all Christian militia in Indonesia,Lebanon,Sudan,Nigeria,other countries).
Levitasi 3 years ago
Levitasi terserah kamu berpendapat apa
tapi umat muslim di maluku TOP
bisa menang tanpa persiapan apa"
subhanallah allahu akbar
kampung muslim kecil seperti air salobar dan ponogoro di beri kekuatan untuk mengalahkan kampung2 GD di sekitarnya......
tidakkah kamu ingat peristiwa batu meja dan feri yang terbakar,seolah-olah itu di lakukan oleh umat muslim ternyata di lakukan oleh kaummu sendiri?
kasian de lo
rakyat maluku bersatu ya .....
BR4WIJAYA 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA,desa Air Salobar dan daerah Ponegoro itu bukan kampung muslim tetapi merupakan desa campuran.Yang kamu katakan itu justru terbalik.Mesjid-mesjid dan rumah-rumah muslim di desa Air Salobar banyak yang hancur.Kalian sudah merencanakan peperangan ini.Buktinya adalah milisi-milisi Islam dalam waktu sekejap bisa menyerang dengan cepat ke desa-desa Kristen secara hampir bersamaan pada hari pertama di mulainya perang ini.
Levitasi 3 years ago
BR4WIJAYA,bom di KM California dan Batumeja itu memang salahnya muslim.Aku tidak mengikuti persidangan geng Coker sehingga tidak tahu apakah memang benar mereka pelakunya.Seandainya memang benar geng Coker pelakunya tetap saja yang salah adalah muslim sebab hal itu berarti geng Coker sudah murtad/mualaf karena sudah membunuh banyak milisi-milisi Kristen di KM California.Menurut kabarnya memang ketua geng Coker mengaku telah di bayar dan di latih oleh Kopassus yang muslim.
Levitasi 3 years ago
makanya dah tau islam tu keras masih juga di buat maen 2 ginilah akibatnya.. haleluya
exlcrew 3 years ago
exlcrew,kita sudah berhasil menahan dan mematahkan serangan-serangan muslim(Ingatlah Pertempuran di kota Tobelo,Pertempuran di desa Passo,Pertempuran di desa Suli,Pertempuran di desa Galala,Pertempuran di desa Iha,dll).Korban dari pihak mereka jauh lebih banyak daripada korban di pihak kita meskipun mereka sudah di bantu oleh sebagian besar tentara dan polisi Indonesia yang beragama muslim.Kristus selalu bersama kita.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 3 years ago
Christian came to Maluku by Saint Francis Xavier.Many indigenous Maluku people(Including some muslim) converted to Christianity because Saint Francis Xavier evangelization.Today,most indigenous Maluku people are Christians(Jesus Christ love Maluku people).Go to Ambon island,Saparua island,Seram island,Aru island,Halmahera island and you will see many Jawa(Java) and South Sulawesi transmigrant/imigrant.Most indigenous Jawa and South Sulawesi people are muslim.
Levitasi 3 years ago
kristen yang mulain peperangan ini.
mehdirip 3 years ago
mehdirip,muslim yang memulai perang ini.
Levitasi 3 years ago
9 December 2008(yesterday),christians in Masohi city,Seram Island attacked by estimated at least 500 muslims militia(From "Forum Komunikasi Umat Islam Maluku Tengah").Christians fight back.Estimated at least 1 church and 67 houses burned.6 injured.Pesan untuk orang-orang Kristen(Protestan dan Katolik) di seluruh Maluku,waspadalah dan berjaga-jagalah di sekitar rumahmu sebab situasi masih belum aman.Tuhan Yesus Kristus selalu menyertai kita.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 3 years ago
Allah tidak melarang kamu berbuat baik dan adil terhadap orang-orang yang tidak memerangi kamu dalam agama dan tidak mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu sebab Allah senang kepada orang-orang yang adil.
risaoe 3 years ago
Allah tidak melarang kamu berbuat baik dan adil terhadap orang-orang yang tidak memerangi kamu dalam agama dan tidak mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu sebab Allah senang kepada orang-orang yang adil. Allah hanya melarang kamu bersahabat dengan orang-orang yang memerangi kamu dalam agama dan mengusir kamu dari kampung-kampungmu dan saling bantu-membantu untuk mengusir kamu ,barangsiapa bersahabat dengan mereka maka mereka itu adalah orang-orang yang zali.(Al Mumtahanah 8-9)
risaoe 3 years ago
this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
sk8punk78 3 years ago
fucking video....BULLSHIT EVERYTHING....
boedy1967 3 years ago
Kami menolak UU Pornografi!.Hentikan semua usaha untuk mendirikan Negara Islam Indonesia!.Halleluya!!!.
Levitasi 3 years ago
jews jerk...they will be destroyed
torosky09 3 years ago
fucking stupid video piece of shit video. Stop calling al these people hombres and comparing them to mexicans, you fucking cunts.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
this is not objective video....
u want war lol...
we don't!!!
sk8punk78 3 years ago
sk8punk,this video shows the truth about this "Maluku War".We want live in peace.Tell the Indonesia government to stop imposing Islamic laws.
Levitasi 3 years ago
this is the truth about the war...
but
this video want to provoke christian to hate moslem.
i think u have a mission in this video!!!
sk8punk78 3 years ago
sk8punk78,this video want to stop muslim aggression in Indonesia.
Levitasi 3 years ago
a person like u who always love to see war and hate in our country...
this is a provoke video..
stop this!!!
sk8punk78 3 years ago
Free Maluku(OCEANIA)
Free Acheh(ASIA)
Free Papua(OCEANIA)
Free Timor(OCEANIA)
Jakarta are Asian people
Moluccans are Oceanic people
Freedom for all
elkavarez 3 years ago
RMS
elkavarez 3 years ago
Islam is thousand years old culture.
so its hard for those people to be accepted the newst style of living.
Its primitively pure old fashion kind of faith!
13inchesDragon 3 years ago
christians attack first !!!
they always envy to Muslims
m3ndoan 3 years ago
m3ndoan(big liar),this war("Maluku War") started when hundreds muslim milita attacked "Mardika" and "Silale" village(Christian village in Ambon Island,19 January 1999).
Levitasi 3 years ago
ey we cristians on maluku are withe thousands moslims in indonesia are with 260 million!
why the fuck cristians wanna begin a war!!
ever heard of the chaos complot!!
please do you homework!! many moslim leaders
in indonesia don't had even a proper education
there preach are not based on fact regarding moluccan cristians there are mostly payed by indonesian goverment leaders to bring hate toward maluku,aceh,papua,timor it's not even about religion it's POLITICS.
lrs82nila 3 years ago
Fuck Yourself PROpaganda Man!!
bokybad 3 years ago
hutahmah,muslims invaded Palestine in 638 AD.Palestine(Land of Israel) belong to Jewish.
Levitasi 3 years ago
fuck land of israel you fucking kike jew assed kazar and ashkenazi jew fucker whore, bitch. That land belongs to the devil thats about it.
AmericanDiaz 3 years ago
uknowiknowah,see video "INDONESIAN HEAD OF POLICE INVOLVEMENT IN KILLING MOLUCCAN".Go to "Maluku" and ask what happened there(Especially Duma village in Halmahera island).Duma village(Christian village) attacked by muslim militia and Indonesian troops(19 June 2000).211 Christians killed.Estimated at least 1 church and 200 houses burned.
Levitasi 3 years ago
uknowiknowah,almost all Christians and muslims declared this is "Religion War".Not all Indonesian troops aided the muslims in this "Religion War".Some Indonesian troops were neutral(Moderate muslims).Also some Indonesian troops are Christians,Hindu & Buddhist(Estimated 16-20%).
Levitasi 3 years ago
uknowiknowah,I will tell you more truth about this Maluku War.Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia especially from "Laskar Kristus" and Christians,Hindu & Buddhist Indonesian troops especially from "Yongab" defended many Christians cities and villages.Some Christians Indonesian troops also member of Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia.We succesfully defended Maluku.
Levitasi 3 years ago
uknowiknowah,Maluku still needs Christian militia because some renmant terrorist(from "Jemaah Islamiyah" and "Al Qaeda")wants to start "Maluku War II".Christian(Protestant and Catholic) militia(Including me) always loves peace.
Levitasi 3 years ago
uknowiknowah,watches my favorites videos:"Ambon-Indonesia","Ambon's Religious Bloodbath","Spite Island" & "Uneasy Religious Harmony in Maluku" if you want to see "neutral" videos.
Levitasi 3 years ago
so its not Islam who started with terrorist organization.Its the Zionist Israeli's that u openly supported that starts it(the Modern Terrrorist Organization).Even Israel is a terrorist state.They occupied the land of holy Palestine illegally.
hutahmah 3 years ago
Don't blame muslims as the only terrorist organization in the world,there are also christian's extremists & jewish zionists that execute more muslims victims & killing innocents people.
the IRA(Catholic)
Stern Gang(Zionist Israeli terrorist group)
are the example of the bloody executers..
the Stern Gang exist way before Al Qadea,Taliban,PLO,PFLP..
and yet the Israeli govt can commend them for their "Heroic" acts of aggression on innocent people
hutahmah 3 years ago
and this is Levitasi's quote:
Levitasi (1 month ago)
kasiande,I am christian militia,evangelists and theologian.
So people how can 1 be evangelical(peace preacher) & at the same time advocate violence & aggression(Militia)?I juz think u are a weird guy.Who loves to propagandize people.I tell u what,its against the Geneva Convention to use Mass Media to spread propaganda.How about that?& here u are spreading one-sided bias story.If u are unbias then maybe i can change my words towards u :-)
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
So i say this...Fuck yourself Levitasi..Blaming only Muslims for the violence while u think u preach Peace..Fuck yourself..You are a Christian Militia as admitted by yourself..So you tend to use aggression to force people to listen to u..So how can advocating violence and aggression make u a preacher of PEACE??Unless VIOLENCE to u is PEACE that is..IDIOTS!!!!
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
This is totally biase source.Siding the nasrani side only.
hutahmah 3 years ago
heee .... stop baku malawang jua ... katong di ambon su tenang jang biking masalah baru lai ...
biar yang su lewat tu jadi pelajaran penting par katong samua ... jang laeng ka sala laeng lai ... nanti seng abis-abis ... sumbayang sa sesuai keyakinan masing-masing, ok?
pertjok 3 years ago
Itulah Levitasi..Kenapa kamu tak ngerti??Asyik salahkan org Islam..Org Christian pun ada salah jgk..Dua2 dlm senario ini salah..Sudahlah,capek saya bersembang psl masalah yg lewat ini..
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
Becoz not only is it defamatory but u are trying to say the police(an aide of the government)is aiding them..so indirectly u are saying the Indonesian government is corrupt and bias..What rubbish..And policemen in Ambon are not only Muslims u know but consists of all religious beliefs(Muslims,Christians,Catholic,Hindu and Buddhist)So why shud a Christian police help to kill their fellow Christians in Ambon??
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
becoz i believe people like u exists and wont think it is significant enough..So stop being stupid and shut up and not spread anymore hostilities among the people there and it includes stopping the spread of ure crappy shit videos of Indonesian policemen aiding to help kill Christians...
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
This is my response to his response that the police were involve in murdering Christians
Hi there, Can u like stop spreading anymore bullshits??people like u are only escalating racial tensions there in Ambon..I wrote previosuly to say that both sides(Muslims and Christians are at wrong) and why are u telling me only from ure Chrristian perspective??I can always talk about the many (about a Million)Muslims who perish in the whole entire world but why didnt i??
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
Obviously Levitasi is an idiot i was trying to say two months ago that i was neutral but he kept on saying to me the Police were involve..Thats the worst rubbish i have ever heard of..
uknowiknowah 3 years ago
Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord's coming.
See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop
and how patient he is for the autumn and spring rains.
You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord's coming is near.
James 5 : 7 - 8.
People, get ready!
Maranata8 3 years ago
according to academician :
Rollan McCleary, was awarded his doctorate from the University of Queensland in Australia during 2003-MAY for his work researching the sexual orientation of Jesus and his disciples. He obtained about $33,000 US in funding from the government to finance his degree. He concluded that Jesus and at least three of his disciples were gay
standuipbabyok 3 years ago
According to the bible Jesus said
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn "a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36)
standuipbabyok 3 years ago
The passage in Isaiah basically prophesised the first encounter of Mohammad(P) with the angel of Gibril(a.s). Add in the account of Waraqas reaction after being informed of Mohammad(P) first encounter and testifies to his scholarly knowledge of the scriptures
Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to he who is not learned saying, read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, Isaiah 29:12 DOES NOT prophecy about Muhammad.
1. Isaiah 29 is a chapter of announcing punishment on Israel.
2. And as part of the punishment we read that God will also take away the ability to read (understand) the holy word because they have disobeyed it for so long. In particular, verse 10 states clearly that the prophets and seers themselves will be put to sleep and no longer receive revelation from the LORD.
vterroe 3 years ago
Cont..
Would Muslims really want to say that this refers to Muhammad?The heart far from God, w/ worship tht is not according to God's will but according to wht men hv invented (v.13)& tht his inability to read is part of God's punishment? It is a sign of God putting a deep sleep on the people regarding spiritual matters, so tht regardless how knowledgeable they r, they would nevertheless be unable to read (comprehend) wht the word of God means.So be careful on the claim,it may back fire u.
vterroe 3 years ago
why is 'ambon' in chinese letters?
Pyronology 3 years ago
Remember, the Christian militias is the first that kill people on this conflict...
ariebob99 3 years ago
alll these nonsence !!! dasar kanapa hurus bkin jihad only for a stupid bus fair. discrace to the muslims
djgaspersz44 3 years ago
When applying the Trinitarian explanation of the word Elohim, we find that God's presentation of His nature is incompatible with Trinitarian thought. Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God (El- -singular); Genesis 17:3 And Abram fell on his face: and God (Elohim- -plural) talked with him. God (El- -singular) appeared to Abram. Only one individual appeared in Genesis 17:1,
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
but in 17:3, that same individual, God (Elohim- -plural), appeared to Abram. Was God alone during one moment and accompanied by the other two members of the Trinity in the the next, while Abram continually saw only one LORD? This would be a very difficult feat regardless of the semantic side stepping. The method of explanation implemented by Trinitarians to avoid this potential contradiction in their doctrine is to believe that the triune nature of God was appearing to Abram and talking to him.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
If Trinitarians do not interpret El to be the entire Godhead, then one member of the Godhead is claiming to be "Almighty" over the other two members. Does this manner of interpretation remain consistent with the basic truths of the Bible? It is not consistent with the Bible, nor with common sense!
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The doctrine of the Trinity uses the word Elohim to give support to its argument that three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, can exist as one God.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Dictionary Of The Bible 1995 John L. Mckenzie "The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of 'person' and 'nature' which are Greek philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as 'essence' and 'substance' were erroneously applied to God by some theologians."
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Why You Should Believe In The Trinity 1989 Robert M. Bowman Jr. "The New Testament does not contain a formalized explanation of the trinity that uses such words as trinity, three persons, one substance, and the like."
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The Shema consists of three sections of scripture Deuteronomy 6:4-9, 11:13-21, and Numbers 15:37-41. It is called the Shema after the Hebrew word hear, the first word in Deut. 6:4. The Shema was to be recited twice daily once upon arising and once when going to bed. So the Old Testament Jews would start and finish their day with 'Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.'
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, whe you talk about the Shema Yisrael, then you are talking about Judaism that denies that Jesus is indeed GOD or Messiah.
vterroe 3 years ago
The New Encyclopedia Britannica 1976
"Neither the word trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
They testify, so far as they testify at all, to the supremacy of the father, the only true God; and to the inferior and derived nature of the Son. There is nowhere among these remains a coequal trinity. . . but no un-divided three, -- coequal, infinite, self-existent, and eternal. This was a conception to which the age had not arrived. It was of later origin."
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The Church of the First Three Centuries 1865 Alvan Lamson
The modern doctrine of the Trinity is not found in any document or relic belonging to the Church of the first three centuries. . . so far as any remains or any record of them are preserved, coming down from early times, are, as regards this doctrine an absolute blank.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
And yet most Christian churches continue to teach and believe the doctrine that God is a coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead, and that Jesus Christ is God, and that the trinity is "the cornerstone of Christianity".
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Well maybe the doctrine of the coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead is deprived of any historical foundation tying it into the Christianity of the Bible and the Christianity of the first three centuries. However the historical information ties the trinity into various pagan origins.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
If you follow the logic here then first you have Jesus Christ as God, then you have man totally depraved, and then you have Jesus Christ as man and God. If Jesus Christ is both man and God does this mean that God is also totally depraved?
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
...the council of Ephesus 431 said that "human beings are totally depraved," the council of Chalcedon 451 said that "Jesus Christ is both man and God."
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Then three centuries after Christ the corrupt emperor Constantine forced the minority opinion of the trinity upon the council of Nicea. The Christian church went downward from there; in fact some of the creeds and councils actually contradict each other. The council of Nicea 325 said that "Jesus Christ is God," the council of Constantinople 381 said that "the Holy Spirit is God,"...
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The idea of "God the Son" is Babylonian paganism and mythology that was grafted into Christianity. Worshipping "God the Son" is idolatry, and idolatry is Biblically condemned; it breaks the first great commandment of God of not having any gods before him (Exodus 20:3).
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The early church worshipped one God and believed in a subordinate Son. The trinity originated with Babylon, and was passed on to most of the world's religions. This polytheistic (believing in more than one god) trinitarianism was intertwined with Greek religion and philosophy and slowly worked its way into Christian thought and creeds some 300 years after Christ.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, eversince Adam & Eve mankinds are condemned and Satan rule the earth. I suggest u wtch those links I posted to u earlier since I can't explain to u due to the lack of space in Youtube. In the Old testament GOD reveal Himself as Elohiym (Hebrew: GOD-plural))Elohim existed already and he created everything else. Later GOD emphasizes in his covenant with Moses and the Israelite people w/ the name of YAHWEH (Exodus 6:2-4). So yes, they beileve in Trinity.
vterroe 3 years ago
plural does not necessarily mean trinity
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
El is the singular form of the word God, when -im is added e.g. Elohim, it is made plural. When used to refer to God Almighty, Elohim is similar to a uniplural noun. A uniplural noun can be used to indicate an object in the singular or plural sense. Example: The word sheep can be used to describe one sheep or many sheep. Example: Deer. One deer was at the lake. Many deer are in the woods.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Even though Elohim is the plural form of the word, it is ALWAYS translated in the singular form when used in reference to the one true God.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, seems that you do not understand the Hebrew language. Clearly when Elohim is used like you said it means UNIPLURAL. Many but ONE Being. that's the concept of Trinity. 3 but 1. You need to learn Hebrew or Aramaic to understand the true nature of the bible. YAHWEH (often considered as GOD the Father) while Jesus=Yahsua (Hebrew which means Yahweh the Salvation).
vterroe 3 years ago
Did the jews use trinity doctrine..
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, on Trinity's case when you are talking about the Messianic Jews the answer is yes they do. But the Jews who believe in the Talmud the answer is no cause the Talmud rejects Jesus as GOD and Islam (Quran)bases largely on the Talmud. Remember Muhammad's 1st wife's (Siti Khotidjah) uncle? He taught Muhammad on the spiritual thing and he was a Christian who rejected Jesus as GOD.
vterroe 3 years ago
her uncle is waraqa ibnu naufal...died shortly after Muhammad(P) had received the first revelation. but the revelation of Quran continued for more than twenty years his death.Sahih Bukhari Narrated 'Aisha(R): Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Moses believe in talmud or not?
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailforng, the 1st Talmud is only written 200 CE, so no Moses did not "believe" in Talmud. The Book of Moses is more known as Torah. Yes Waraqa died shortly after the first revelation but basically Muhammad's foundation on the spiritual thing was learned frm him. Cause even after the 1st revelation whn Muhammad was confused and scared Siti Khotijah brought him to Waraqa. Ever ask yourself why to Waraqa?
vterroe 3 years ago
Mark 14:51-52 describes the incident when Jesus was arrested by the religious police. It describes how one of Jesus' followers was scantily dressed. The King James Version says he had a linen cloth cast on his naked body; the size and location of the cloth is not defined.
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
The New International Version says that he was "wearing nothing but a linen garment." When the police tried to seize him, they were able to grab only his cloth; the man ran away naked. Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men.
-Reverend Peter Murphy, "The Sexuality of Jesus?,"
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, the incident in Mark 14:51-52 is nothing more than a semeion, a sign-action symbolizing the "death" and rebirth of baptism.
1. the 11 disciples were at the Gethsemane at tht time and frm 4 gospels only 1 recorded this.
2.A sindon was a linen cloth used for clothing or burial. The word is used exactly four times in the Christian Testament: in the three synoptic gospels to describe the cloth in which Jesus's dead body was wrapped for burial
vterroe 3 years ago
"nothing more than a semeion,"
Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men.
-Reverend Peter Murphy, "The Sexuality of Jesus?," interpretation of that event according to christian priest
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, Rev Peter M may has different views. To understand the content of the Bible many times we ought to ask the guidance frm the Holy Spirit so that things will be enlightened as we read the scriptures. Mikhail, I'll post u a link to watch (it's rather long) discussion on how GOD can Exist as a man and why Jesus is being crucify. are you interested? I can't post it in Youtube cause YouTube has a limited running minutes on videos posted.
vterroe 3 years ago
I can't believe it.... "describe the cloth in which Jesus's dead body was wrapped for burial"god---dead; well god is the same as human than...if god dead who control this world? satan?angel?
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, Jesus was physically dead frm the crucifixion for 3 days & He is risen again.Can a human raise frm the dead by himself?I guess not. Who control the world then?In Christianity we believe in the concept of Trinity. I saw tht Levitasi has tried to give you quotes frm the Holy Bible on how GOD (Yahweh) declares the trinity.We humans r created into GOD's image(Gen 1:26). Thus,the concept of Trinity co-exist in us; body, spirit & soul w/ each having its own character but makeup 1 being.
vterroe 3 years ago
ok..why jesus- physically dead and raise again, what is the reason?, why god allow his son -dead.god is powerful right? and where is jesus now..why don't he come to us and stop all the war/madness that happen in this world and may i ask you; is trinity exist before jesus..?what is the religion of adam, abraham, noah, jacob, Moses, did they believe in trinity
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
Mikhailfong, eversince Adam & Eve mankinds are condemned and Satan rule the earth. I suggest u wtch those links I posted to u earlier since I can't explain to u due to the lack of space in Youtube. In the Old testament GOD reveal Himself as Elohiym (Hebrew: GOD-plural))Elohim existed already and he created everything else. Later GOD emphasizes in his covenant with Moses and the Israelite people w/ the name of YAHWEH (Exodus 6:2-4). So yes, they beileve in Trinity.
vterroe 3 years ago
and did jesus preached trinity to the jews?
mikhailfong44 3 years ago
crucifixion is a myth..how do you know jesus raise from the dead?what is holy spirit..do you worship holy spirit too? god creates air too not only human...air consists of oxygen,nitrogen,hydrogen and etc..thus the concept of plurality co-exist in air..therefore god should be more than 3...
mikhailfong44 3 years ago