(IZLAAAM, izlaaaam, the caliphate, caliphate....bohoohohoo.)
I have found that this "islamic scarecrow" in the west is loosing its credibility...soon you'll have to come up with something else, because nobody will believe your bullshit ^_^
@boredtodistraction The policeman of the earth is apparently shocked ^_^ If you are displeased about the truth, please keep the fair-play and do not pull your blackjack
@Targoos slaughter of 1000s of native americans: horrid. we don't tell our kiddies that they should imitate those responsible to please lallah in the sky. slavery: monstrous. taught to the europeans by muslim arabs and african converts who have practiced it for 12+ centuries. capturing done by muslims, responsible for deaths of 120 millions. abolished by the british after 4 centuries, abolition forced onto the muslim world (but still goes on in africa).
@BoredToDistraction What utter, utter lies. Slavery? Good God man, while the Americans were debating over whether Black people could be considered human or not, blacks and whites were living in the Islamic world as equals and brothers, as the Prophet taught us that "a white has no authority over a black, nor a black authority over a white, except in piety" 1400 years previously. Why do you think so many people like Cassius Clay converted to Islam? You really want to talk about slavery?
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. You're making it up as you go along. Where did the prophet say "a white has no authority over a black, nor a black authority over a white". LOL. His mafia followers DID, as indeed the moron in this video, say that non-Muslims may not have authority over Muslims. Slavery by another name? Well the Muslims are STILL slavers and that's 1,400 years of it. There is NOTHING in their moral discourse to find slavery objectionable, whereas in the West we find it morally indefensible.
@YumiOfLyoko African slaves were ROUTINELY castrated. You call that treating them as 'equals and brothers'. Well, I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. Just where ARE the descendants of the 21+ MILLION Africans transported throughout the Caliphate? Where are the African descendants in Arabia? The Arab slave trade was SO terrible and SO barbaric that even the obliteration is used as an excuse.
“ All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. „
@YumiOfLyoko THIS is the death cult of Islam as advocated by its own votaries. Abu Hamza: “In an Islamic land if you find a kuffir you can either sell him in the market or just kill him. It’s ok”
Raed Said Hussein Saad, Al-Qassam Brigades Commander “We succeeded, with Allah’s grace, to raise an ideological generation that loves death like our enemies love life.”
Do you really think that such an ideology can bring ANYTHING but bloodshed and tyranny?
@ritchloui Who is Abu Hamza and who is Raed Said? We Muslims follow the Quran, the Hadith, and fatawi (rulings). Yes, Islam as an ideology, has brought a brilliant age of education, knowledge, morality and security in the past, and it can do so, if implemented once more by leaders of Muslims, and once the successive and ongoing US/Israeli attacks on Muslim countries are STOPPED.
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. Islam has disabled all the once advanced civilisations of the Middle East. Even more obscene is the Islamic claim that the achievements of these ALREADY advanced civilisations were Islamic. LOL. No mention of WHO preserved the works by polytheistic Greeks and Indians for 1,000 years BEFORE Islam. No mention of WHO translated that work. Still, it all ended 1,000 years ago, BECAUSE of Islam. You are a deluded moron.
@ritchloui You scurry away every time I disprove you in an argument and cling to something else. Don't you think its obvious that you are un-ravelling here.
@YumiOfLyoko Tell me. What was the FIRST instruction given to Mohammed? He was told to 'READ'. Isn't it interesting that he disobeyed his first instruction and 'RECITED'. In other words he did not 'read' he 'dictated'. Furthermore, as far as we know, he NEVER did read.
@ritchloui Sorry to intervene guys, I know that Yumi fucked you up but I just wanna add something ^_^
Ok, some dutsh men were found to keep moroccan disabled as slaves for 7 years. They raped them and abusef them. Ok, if that case of the saudis were to condemn a whole nation, then this one prooves that you are far worst than us.
@ritchloui And one more thing, don't you ever bring examples from some countries like saudi arabia that was created by the british imperialism to destroy the caliphate, the regime has nothing to do with islam. In islam there is the Caliphate not the monarchy. If someday we have the caliphate, I believe that we will overstep you in science once again ;-)
@ritchloui Black Muslims have intermarried with Muslims from all races, so you will see Arabs who look like Black. Sudan is an Arab country btw. Slavery in Islamic countries ended centuries before it ended in the West. Are you sure you know who you're describing? While Yanks were keeping them as slaves, breeding them &Europeans debating over whether they should be considered "human", white Christians saying they should be made to "obey Whites & God for their own good" then you accuse Islam? lol
@YumiOfLyoko You really don't know ANYTHING about Islam do you. You just lap up their idiotic self-adulation. Negro slaves were openly sold in Mecca until the 1960's. The practice didn't stop because the Arabs found the practice morally repugnant, FAR from it, they ceased because of pressure from the more advanced civilisations of the West. Islam was built ENTIRELY on slavery. That's why Muslims are SO unproductive. Even Taiwan DWARFS all the Muslim countries COMBINED for productivity.
@ritchloui Hahaha ha. If that was true, then I would be one of those peoples you claim "suffered compulsory Arabization".
True that Arabic language and culture originated in the Arabian Peninsula. But Jordan, Iraq, Egypt & the rest of North Africa, Syria & Palestine are proud of being Arab; these people will smack you if you say otherwise. I'll tell you what was forced on the Arab countries though. Borders drawn up over what was once collectively known as Arabia, by Europeans who divided us.
@ritchloui <<Liar. There is no slavery in the Muslim countries, slavery ended centuries ago. And there was no racism since the time of the Prophet, who said blacks and whites were equal, (hadith I posted below), whereas in the West, 1000 years later, Yanks and Europeans were debating over whether they could be considered human or not. You were the ones who decided to ship and enslave people, purely because of their skin colour. The West was the last to end slavery. What a bunch of hypocrites.
@YumiOfLyoko Slavery is still practiced OPENLY in Sudan and Mauritania and under the surface in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman and Niger. In the US in 2006-7 a Saudi man, an Egyptian, 2 Kuwaitis, were all FOUND GUILTY of keeping slaves. The Saudi, Homaidan Al-Turki , said in his defense "Your honor, I am not here to apologize... The state has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors". He kept an Indonesian maid captive for FOUR YEARS to service his every need and to rape her at will. DISGUSTING!
@YumiOfLyoko Tell me, when has an African EVER owned an Arab as a slave? In all 1,400 years of the Muslim slave trade, your 'equals and brothers' seem to have always gone one way. Well, it's a bit like the one-way street of 'tolerance'. We, the advanced civilisations of the world should be 'tolerant' of the insanely 'intolerant, supremacist, separatist, wife beating, honor killing, throat slitting, gang rapist' Muslims who want to built their hornets nests everywhere. Koran in a toilet IS art!
Your arguments are useless, invalid, because North Africans ARE Arabs, most of Arab land today is in Africa.
"Honor killing" as I said, a phrase invented by the west, has no Arabic translation. No such thing as "Honor Killing" in Islam (Quran/ Hadith). Murder will send murderer to hell. Lawful killing is never for honour but for God.
"Wife beating, throat slitting" ... c'mon. What class you have.
You even admit you're ignorant. I take it youre trying to waste my time, and won't answer further.
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. More Arab supremacist garbage. Aside from the routine genocides that have ALWAYS accompanied Islam - and that's slaughter of non-Muslims and the 'wrong sort of Muslims'. The Egyptians, Berbers, Copts, Nubians, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Persians and others are NOT Arabs! What they have suffered is compulsory Arabisation and the obliteration of their own cultures and languages. Reduced to the idiocy of 7th century Arab bandits.
@ritchloui What? What is supremacist in the Prophet's hadith? The Prophet, who said an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab? Here is the Hadith again. Did you read it, and why are you ignoring facts? "An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action."
American people think that they have freedom...What is freedom ? Is it merely to have the right to have gay relations and drink alcohol ? Freedom means perversion ?
Real muslims, real christians, real jews DO EXIST ! But opressed by immoral leaders.
We have leaders that doesn't represent Islam, now there is revolution against them. Our leaders are employers for the west, now we kick them out one after the other. And when the moslim world is finally ruled by islam, you will see the scientific advance, we will leave you behind in 10 years ;-)
@Targoos My brother we have to be careful about this (replacing the existing regimes with Muslim regimes. ) I hear this is also part of the Zionist plan. You must see this speech by Sheikh Imran Hosein ~ youtube.com/v/0nR7-Cmszpo. After Muslim empires rule, they want to wage wars on us.
@YumiOfLyoko Sheikh Imran Hosein is one of the most deluded and evil men I have ever come across on the internet. He speaks as a serpent. There is no good in him. He will lead you as so many sheep to the slaughter.
@ritchloui Want to see more Islamic inventions by early Muslims? Here you go.
The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.
@YumiOfLyoko I do not agree 100% with the thesis of Imran hosein. As he hasn't a crystal ball by which he can see the future...but since it's the only logical approach that exists so far...
The actual regimes must go to hell. What is to come...sad but, it's Allah's will
@Targoos The US will sink to the lowest of the low. They spend twice the amount they earn. They don't issue their own money, but the private Rothschild banks in their country issue loans and create money from debt. They are already indebted to a potential enemy (China). They have wasted trillions in the last few years, are in a deep recession and will never get out after their next war. They're so desperate they killed Gaddafi and Saddam because they both said they won't trade oil in the dollar.
@YumiOfLyoko Yeah ^_^ every american child is born with a 400.000$ debt
Soon the US economy will collapse and Israel will take the leadership from the US,,,but the rule of Israel won't be for long, the caliphat will return and islam will rule the world.
@Targoos True.. Its time for Muslims to start looking beyond the US. I don't feel so much hatred toward them because they're finished. Just look at the line of Presidential candidates for 2012, they don't even know where Russia is on a world Map. Look at Bush, Obama, Romney, Anyone with a working brain cell can see that they're all dumb illiterate puppets and don't run the country in any way. I can already see the Zionists operating behind them. Their whole presidential election is a sham.
@Targoos This is SO idiotic. The fact that Muslim societies are SO backward, SO violent and SO out of control you might as well say that there are no rapes in Sudan or Somalia. You haven't got a clue. Who would even know about it in Saudi Arabia, they are perfectly entitled to rape their maids, so it's not even a crime.
@ritchloui Abu al-Qasim, who some have called the father of modern surgery, wrote the Kitab al-Tasrif, a 30-volume medical encyclopedia which was taught at Muslim and European medical schools until the 17th century.
Avicenna, considered among the most influential medical scholars in history,wrote The Canon of Medicine &The Book of Healing, which remained standard textbooks in both Muslim and European universities until the 17th century.
@YumiOfLyoko Pathetic. Tell me, WHEN did Abu al-Qasim write? Oh. Exactly as I said, 1,000 years ago. As I have repeatedly said, Islam put AN END to all this advancement. Islam is NOT about rational investigation it is about fairy tales and dogma. This work is NOT Islamic. Islam is about nonsense and always will be. It's just pathetic you so desperately want to claim for it ideas it has NOTHING in common with.
@ritchloui Yes, 1000 years ago, when Islam was actually implemusunted properly, when the Muslim Empire was ruled by real Muslim leaders, and a force to be reckoned with, when people followed the instructions in the Quran that said to seek knowledge, that said that people with knowledge can never be equal to people who are ignorant.
@YumiOfLyoko Real Muslims - oh yes, another idiotic fantasy. What do you know about what ANY of these polymaths actually said about Islam? But we know what Muslims of today are saying. I think they are keen on bringing their children up wanting to die. Shoving them in bomb vests, that sort of thing. And you really think the polymaths who stopped word 1,000 years ago were Islamic? Find out what they thought of Islam first.
@ritchloui Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration.
@ritchloui The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera after noticing the way light came through a hole in window shutters. The smaller the hole, the better the picture, he worked out, and set up the first Camera Obscura (from the Arab word qamara for a dark or private room).
@Targoos 3- JIHADISTS from all over the middle east come to iraq & afghanistan to kill civilians & US soldiers & destroy any chance of a decent democracy and society to take root. Iraq: sunnis & shia are battling it out to see who ends up top.
4- no, you are describing islam. it's involved in 80-90% of conflicts in the world. it won't rest until muhammad's psychosis replays in every globe corner until the end of time. bizarre would be an understatement.
@BoredToDistraction As for the video, what a piece of propaganda, with no sources to back up its absurd claims. Know how I know it's all lies? In our language (and I speak Arabic), we don't describe any black people as "abed". I can see the source of your delusion and ignorance, no wonder these are the views you have of Islam, if this is the rubbish you're watching.
@YumiOfLyoko You are TRULY PATHETIC, no integrity whatsoever. Dismissing any uncomfortable truth about your "religion" as "propaganda", while spitting on a civilisation that is constantly studying its mistakes and educating the whole world about them to everyone's benefit. This kind of juvenile tactics might have worked for muhammad in the 7th century, but in this one, it won't get you far.
@BoredToDistraction "A civilization that is constantly studying its mistakes and educating the whole world about them"... could you be referring to the US? Excuse me, but even Afghans know more about geography and politics than the US. Even poor people in third-world countries know more about geography and US actions than Yanks themselves. When you say "educate the world", do you mean like THIS
@YumiOfLyoko SCHOLARSHIP. Thousands and thousands of books about its history. Constant research. Public self-criticism and debates. Creation of the UN, Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Museums, memorials, etc., about its role in slavery, discrimination against native americans, black people, homosexuals, women, etc. The list is ENDLESS. Teaching in schools. Self-criticism in Islam? When? Where?
@BoredToDistraction Creation of the UN? Declaration of Human Rights? Fat load of good its done to all of us! The people of the US are clearly geographically illiterate & their news networks clearly don't deal with anything outside the US, & even their leaders believe Afghanistan's in the Middle East, and that Africa's a country, or that Russia can be seen from Alaska. Witness one of those illiterate jarheads proclaiming that the Pakistan-Iraq border is a threat to stability.
@YumiOfLyoko I had no idea one needs to know geography to understand basic human rights, this is a revelation. And, truly sorry that the declaration of human rights you never signed hasn't done you "a fat load of good".
@BoredToDistraction We do criticize radicals in fact. Muslims can tell apart corruption from righteousness &have driven out many oppressive leaders. The Afghans would've done the same to the Taliban had US not interfered (financed it during the era of communism in Afghnistan, then turned around &installed a puppet regime and started the War there, making people sympathetic to Taliban). AlQaeda I can't speak for since it's paid by the US, conveniently followed their presence in Iraq & elsewhere.
Ahmedinejad actually has far more sense &common decency than any Western leader (youtube.com/v/oLkiM4CHAJo), he w/most of world's population has grasped the workings of US foreign policy: give First Aid to countries that could be bribed into following orders at the expense of their people (Mubarak), finance oppressive dictators as long as they support US aims (Saddam, Taliban), when they change or sell oil in Euro bomb their countries & install new regime run by IMF & private Rothschild bank.
@YumiOfLyoko Despite extensive geographical and political knowledge, it appears that many Afghans do not yet understand that Thou Shalt Not Help Your Friends Drive Planes into Buildings, Thou Shalt Not Exchange Little Girls For Goats With Potential Wife-Killers, Thou Shalt Not Shoot Sexually Active or Sexually Violated Women in Football Stadiums, Thou Shalt Not Teach Little Boys To Reach Paradise With A Suicide Bomb Vest... endless list of horrors, one book.
@BoredToDistraction The book no-one follows, or has heard of, again (and I live in a Muslim country, and religious studies is compulsory here from school age). We in Islam follow Quran, Hadith, and fatwas (rulings). We don't follow some hippy "manual", first time I ever hear of one. You are making a fool of yourself, or covering up for having gotten the Quranic verse BACKWARDS. There are only 2 mentions of the famous four witnesses in the Quran, and I will post them below (cont).
{And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses to support their allegations,- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors} Quran 24;4
{And (as for) the ones of your women who come up with the obscenity, so, call four of you to witness against them. Then in case they (bear) witness, then retain them in the homes until death takes them up, or Allah ordains for them another way.} Quran 4:15
The Quranic verses below state the purpose of the Four Witnesses: a protection for women from slander. What lies you've made, saying they were needed to prove rape!
I hope you see what a fool you're making of yourself, by clinging to that Traveller book. The Quran says the opposite of what you claim about Islam. No Hadith /fatwa supports your claims either. I'm not even sure that book supports you, since I haven't read & can't access it, but in any case it is not something Muslims follow.
@BoredToDistraction Cases of serious nature, like that of fornication, adultery and rape attract a very hard punishment in Islam. Flogging a hundred times for unmarried couples and stoning to the married ones. To prove such an allegation, even two male witnesses are not enough, but four of them are required. Suppose those who witnessed were women alone.
@BoredToDistraction How many times must I repeat this to you, moron... THE FOUR WITNESSES IN ISLAM are NOT required for rape (according to Quran 24:4, which you have changed the meaning of).
No verse in the Quran, says that ANY witnesses are needed in order to prove rape. I challenge you to bring one Quranic verse, or Hadith, that says that a witness needs to be present in order to prove rape.
@YumiOfLyoko What do you call a 21st century human being whose main frame of reference, whose whole moral basis, are the actions and sayings of a deranged serial killer from the 7th century?
But anyway. The relevant quranic verses & hadith deal with charges of 'adultery', from which islamic law has derived rulings on rape. Eg., Reliance of the Traveller, fatwa issued by the Islamic Sharia Council posted above. But we are COMPLETE MORONS, and will listen to YumiOfLyoko instead, won't we?
@BoredToDistraction says "Hasan Mahmud, Director of Sharia Law of the Muslim Canadian Congress" - yeah, sounds impressive until I find out that the "Muslim Canadian Congress" has only 300 members. Had actually, doesn't even exist today.
You ARE a complete moron, and I have not a clue about these absurd sources. When I google your source, I come up with a list of Anti-Islamic websites. Maybe you still haven't grasped that actual Muslims don't get their religious teachings from sites like these.
@BoredToDistraction Haha ha ha....you're joking with me, bro, you're joking with me.. patience is running out... your so-called "Muslim Canadian Congress" is followed by 300 people, and doesn't even exist today. Muslims Don't Follow That, Nor Any Source Listed In Your Anti-Islamic Websites. Muslims Follow Quran, Hadith, and Fatwas by Prominent Scholars - The Type of Teaching You Will Find In Islamic Websites. Try Looking At Some OF Those.
@YumiOfLyoko "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Rape", and "Rape in Islam", both on Wikislam. Complete with real-life news items from the "Anti-Islamic" Islamic world. I had NO IDEA the Islamic Sharia Center was an Anti-Islamic Website! I will never check their fatwas again... Also, please somebody warns al-Azhar University about their certifying gypsy books.
@Targoos Islam's bodycount: one quarter of a billion people and counting. Islam's contributions: qur'an, jihad. Here I give you one efficient law that will fit your mentality and warm your heart: kill everybody, and no human being will ever offend allah again.
@BoredToDistraction In Islam, if rape can be proven in any way, including DNA evidence, recorded material, or even sole testimony of the victim in some cases, then the rapist will receive the punishment. NO WITNESSES REQUIRED. How ignorant you are! And yes, the rapist will receive a very severe punishment under Islamic law, which thankfully is the best protection for women.
Compare this to the US where only 6% of rapists ever serve a day in jail!
@YumiOfLyoko Google "The Final Sharia Sampler: Rape Under Islamic Law". Written by Hasan Mahmud, Director of Sharia Law of the Muslim Canadian Congress.
@BoredToDistraction You are speaking on whims and assumptions, and really don't know a thing about Muslim countries, do you? If you went to SA and even looked at their women inappropriately you'll be lashed and sent to jail for the rest of your life. Much unlike the west where 21 year old serial paedophiles will be classed as "young offenders" & get only 6 years in jail. Keep bleating about "the women, the women" in Muslim societies. You make yourself a joke in front of the aforementioned women.
@BoredToDistraction Ha ha ha... Yes, if you look at women inappropriately in Muslim countries you will be lashed and jailed. And porn is banned. Good for us. We don't have the moral deprivation you have, where 20% of your country's women are raped or suffer attempted rape.Or one every 2 minutes. Lol.
@YumiOfLyoko A man looks at a woman "inappropriately": a woman can blush, give him dirty looks, smile, look the other way, look at him "inappropriately" if she likes him back, laugh her head off. What have you been learning in 1400 years?
We will never know the percentage of women raped in the islamic world. There is no real understanding of what constitutes rape. Charges of "adultery" can lead to a death sentence to the rape victim. So twisted it beggars belief.
@YumiOfLyoko And on the rare occasions that rape is proven, the rapist is often lashed and then executed. Monsters. No human compassion, no human feelings, no attempt to understand, forgive, teach the sex offender about healthy relationships. Only brutal, sadistic, mindless revenge.
@BoredToDistraction Brutal sadistic mindless revenge not because a man treated a woman as an object, but because a man helped himself to a muslim man's property. Not all muslims "think" that way, but that's the qur'anic bottom line about rape.
@BoredToDistraction Do you know the requirements to create a TV channel or a newspaper in the US ? I challenge you to try to start a news TV channel without any jews in your team...ha ha ha Yes you can start a TV channel about, porn, science, movies, music, bla bla bla...but no politics
@BoredToDistraction (contd) If the number of witnesses is doubled, less would be the chance for the implementation of this punishment. Many people do not object a lot to these ways of punishment but they do not realize how difficult it has been made in Islam, to prove such allegations.
Listen to the squealing pig Sheik Ahmad Abu Quddum when he is confronted with facts. A severely mentally disturbed psychopath. Yup. This is Islam; deluded, demented zombies living in a schizoid world where everything is its opposite, peace is war, war is peace, slavery is freedom and freedom is slavery. Even their evil book is written in reverse.
True, Christians (and until recently, Jews) lived across the Middle Eastern countries for many years as neighbours and equals. Like this video. We attack whomever attacks us FIRST, and drive out invaders, and DO TO THEM AS THEY DO TO US. We don't attack innocents, we don't attack people for simply being unbelievers (as claim those who like to take verses out of context), nor do we attack anyone else who hasn't attacked us FIRST. Clever man, speaks the truth. This is true Jihad!
@YumiOfLyoko Of course you are a shameless LIAR. If Islam didn't attack first it wouldn't have got out of Medina you moron. Islam has been spread entirely by FORCE. Mohammed barely managed to get 300 followers in more than 10 years of 'persuasion'. No, it was when he turned bandit and racketeer that he got his 'message' across. What a piece of shit your mind has become.
@ritchloui "Spread ENTIRELY by force", huh? And yet you yourself just mentioned Medina, the FIRST city ever to be opened by Muslims, which was done entirely without force, in fact the people themselves came willingly to the Prophet!
As for Mecca, and every other place where you claim the religion Islam has spread "by force". Can people ever be FORCED to believe in something? If you hold swords to people's throats, you might force them to say they believe you for a short time but they never will!
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. How many people born under the jackboot of Islam would openly admit that they reject Islam? Muslims, instead of questioning Islam find themselves excusing FGM, stoning, maiming, wife beating, honor killings, genocide, child marriage. Yup, Muslims even find a way to explain away a 54 year old warlord having sex with a 9 year old child and permitting men to rape their slaves. Backward thinking by a backward religion.
@ritchloui You are ignorant, could not counter an argument. You say the US was wrong to choose aggression, true as the fact is that more people around the world hate the US than ever. But in the case of Islam, Islam spread rapidly in the first few years of rule under the Prophet and Caliphs, so many embraced it that nearly 1/4 of the world is Muslim today. Since swords can't force people to permanently believe in something they don't, that would mean Islam didn't do what America did (aggression)
@ritchloui Wrong, liar. FGM PRE-DATES Islam and is entirely a cultural matter, mostly in Africa. On Wikipedia you'll see that of the top 30 countries practising FGM, only 6 are Muslim. What about the 24 NON-MUSLIM countries that practise FGM?
No child marriage in Islam, the religion which gave women the right to chose a spouse. It is practised in all third countries. What about Indian child brides?
"Honor killing"-Western phrase invented to slander Islam. Not even an Arabic translation for this.
@YumiOfLyoko FGM has followed Islam out of Africa and occurs as far afield as Kurdistan, Indonesia and Singapore. So clearly Islam has played its part in continuing it. NONE of the other great world religions has EVER condoned it in any way. You keep excusing how backward Islam is by making false comparisons; Islam aims to MAKE everyone submit to it. Islamic Shariah is a DISGRACEFUL evil system; it's too late when it's enforced and that's what follows when Islam dominates.
@ritchloui I just want to know from whom/where did you get these informations about islam ?! damn...it's the typical arguments of islamophobists all over the globe. We give you answers but you keep escaping them, you divert the subject most of the time, you jump from a matter to another...
PS; you spew the same bullshit...change the disc man
@ritchloui Islam does NOT encourage, does NOT condone, does NOT enforce female genital mutilation, in any Quranic verse, in any Hadith, under any Islamic law. Give one source to support your claims. FGM has not followed Islam out of Africa; in fact, it is declining rapidly in Muslim countries and long since gone in other countries. Once again, only 6 of the top 30 FGM-practicing countries are Muslim. Once again, it is entirely a cultural, social matter, which Islam has played no part in.
@ritchloui (..cont) Genocide is what's being carried out by the Americans in Iraq, resulting in half a million Iraqi children dead (by UN estimates), and on Afghanistan where they blow up entire villages for "progress", by Israel which killed 6000 Palestinians, and most recently in Libya using unmanned drones where civilian: target ratio is 50:1.
"Stoning, wife beating"? What's this? What class.. Here's a Muslim woman telling you hypocrite to shut your mouth & stop speaking on my behalf.
@ritchloui 3 Things I repeat to everyone who slanders the Prophet (pbuh) regarding the lady A'isha :
1. 9 as an age of marriage was the norm in that time. In Scandinavia in Viking times 500 years after the Prophet's time girls got married typically aged 11
2. There was no contraception in those days. So if she was raped she would have had kids in her teens. But didnt.
3. A'isha was the second-largest narrater of Hadith, narrated around 2000. If she was raped, why was she so KEEN to spread ISLAM?
@YumiOfLyoko You see, I really find it distasteful to hear excuses for a 54 year old having sex with a 9 year old. As for children, as far as I know, Aisha never had children - her reproductive tract had almost certainly been destroyed by Mohammed. No-one regards Viking morality to be applicable TODAY, but Mohammed's filthy antics are used all over the Islamic world as justification for old men having sex with little girls.
@ritchloui For the belief in God to seep into someone's heart, and for them to GENUINELY accept it as being true, and for them to dedicate their lives to achieving the ultimate goal (heaven) & to base their lives around it, true belief like that has never and will never be achieved by the power of a sword, or by aggression! Aggression will only cause you to hate the aggressor & what they stand for! Have the Americans, by their use of force in other countries, succeeded in changing their beliefs?
@YumiOfLyoko Here you speak the language I understand and wish to hear. You are right, the US made a terrible error in choosing aggression. Indeed it has done PRECISELY what its enemies wanted. After 9/11 it had the opportunity of winning hearts and minds but instead it opted for vengeance. As regards religious belief, delusion is one thing but coercion in matters of faith breeds hypocrites. This is Islam's own legacy and it cannot escape it.
@ritchloui The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was a man who lived only in poverty after receiving revelation. Even after opening Mecca & many other lands, after becoming in effect the Emperor of the Arabian Peninsula! - he used to live in a small house, sleep on a mat stuffed with hay, clout his own cloak, milk his own sheep, participate in house chores & never have enough to fill his stomach. He gave all goods and money brought to him to a mosque to be picked up by the poor!
@YumiOfLyoko Well. Perhaps you might be willing to take up the following challenge. These are the accusations leveled at Muhammad by former Muslim Ali Sina. He has offered $50,000 to anyone who could prove otherwise based on Islamic texts. :
"Muhammad is a narcissist, a pedophile, a mass murderer, a terrorist, a misogynist, a lecher, a cult leader, a madman a rapist, a torturer, an assassin and a looter."
@ritchloui Every statement you made in your absurd comment, from sentence one to sentence six, is an indication of your ignorance of the history of Islam, of the life of the Prophet Muhammad, and of the fundamentals of human psychology. Your brain is fully functioning, but you of your own choice refuse to use it. Your own choice, remember that.
@YumiOfLyoko Muslim Conquests on Wikipedia. Or if Wikipedia is beneath you, Islamic Imperialism, by Efraim Karsh. Body-count of jihad against unbelievers is found on website Political Islam > Tears of Jihad. Daily body-count of current global jihad: website Religion of Peace. Truth hurts, but not as much as Islam.
@BoredToDistraction Nothing hurts as I am well aware of the truth, & have seen all those links. Yourself, are you aware of the truth? Prophet Muhammad has said the following: "Prophethood will remain among you as long as Allah wills. Then caliphates on the lines of Prophethood shall commence, and remain as long as Allah wills. Then corrupt erosive monarchy would take place, and it will remain as long as Allah wills.Then despotic kingship would emerge, and it will remain as long as Allah wills."
@YumiOfLyoko I know the kind of crazy meaningless bs Muhammad came up with ever since he started hallucinating, but thank you for your help. It is puzzling in the 21st century to be unable to recognise schizophrenia when it stares you in the face. Now, 270 million "unbelievers" deaths: can you AT LEAST recognise psychopathy?
@BoredToDistraction After the death of the Prophet and the five Caliphs of Islam - who under their rule, Islam had spread fastest among nations - Muslim rule consisted of a succession of empires ruled by kings, who ruled not for religion but for power and greed, including the Moghuls, who killed many on the Indian subcontinent, south and east Asia, even killing Middle eastern Muslims and building towers of skulls in Syria and Iraq. And the Muslim countries have been in decline ever since.
I haven't heard of Yousef bin Tachafine, I'll look into him more soon. But the age of Khilapha described the Prophet was supposed to last 30 years, so that would mean the first 5 rulers up till Hasan bin Ali were Caliphs. It was according to some accurate calculations which even predicted the length of the British /American Empires, and so on. A video I found here ~ youtube.com/v/wqtt0h2tDto
But you may be right, as there will be a total of 12 Caliphs.
@YumiOfLyoko I know you would like to claim that the spread of Islam was by kings who ruled for power not religion. However, if Islam was such a religion of peace it is more than a little noteworthy that 3 of the 4 Caliphs after Muhammad's death were all murdered. It doesn't sound like Islam really was a 'religion of peace' at all but a mafia-style racket built entirely on the methods of Muhammad himself; namely military conquest, slaving and robbery.
@YumiOfLyoko In decline? Too bad :( But we all know the Solution, don't we? We must return to the True spiritual teachings of Prophet Muhammad: tax, subdue, humiliate, pillage, terrorise, amputate, enslave, rape, stone, torture, stab, behead, burn to death. Allahu akbar.
@YumiOfLyoko Let us see what happens when the US stops helping poor nations, stops trying to protect muslim people from their crazed islamic tyrans, quits trying to help build civil societies in islamic medieval hellholes, lets jihadists loose in those hellholes, close down all doors to muslim refugees from these hellholes, cuts aid, stops military assistance, finishes all trade, all exchange with the muslim world (educational, technological, scientific, medical...).
@Targoos LOL. Islam rode on the back of the ALREADY advanced civilisations of the ME. Who preserved the Ancient Greek texts for 1,000 years before Islam? Who translated them into Arabic? Yes, those civilisations managed to continue for a while, but eventually the ignorant Imams put an end to it. No achievement for 1,000 years and you have the cheek to take credit for what Islam actually DESTROYED.
@ritchloui You are ignorant & reply just so it seems like you have something to say. Prior to Islam people lived in ignorance, were illiterate, traded & herded. The Golden Age of Islam is what spawned Muslim physicists, medicine practitioners, inventors, poets, travellers. Muslims invented the decimal system, Islamic architecture,geometric art, the numbers used by the West today, musical instruments & many other inventions. I'll be posting them. All because the Quran commanded to seek knowledge.
@YumiOfLyoko Speak for yourself. Yes, prior to Islam the Arabs were possibly backward. We'll never know of course, because Muslims have destroyed, no OBLITERATED, everything pre-Islamic in Arabia. Muslims did NOT invent the decimal system, that was Hindu (another shameless theft). NO, the nomads did NOT have architecture, but the sedentary civilisations had had architecture for 1,000 years already. Stop you idiotic lies, you show your ignorance.
Computers, the software to run them, the internet, global communications, aircraft, cars, trains, rockets, satellites, spacecraft, skyscrapers, telescope, microscope, eyeglasses, contact lenses, microwave ovens, washing machines, metallurgy, plastics, synthetics, most pharmaceuticals, modern preservatives, most scientific breakthroughs, most mathematics, most physics breakthroughs, periodic table, chemistry and biology breakthroughs, modern genetics,
@YumiOfLyoko more non-Muslim inventions: modern surgery, anaesthetics, modern astronomy, clocks, watches, oceanography, discovery of DNA, unlocking the genome, harnessing electricity, nuclear energy, wireless technology, central heating, air conditioning, water purification, refrigerators, recorded music, the piano, the electric guitar, amplifiers, motion pictures, TV, radio, telephones, mobiles , touch screens, colour printing, light bulb, modern agricultural techniques and farming methods.
@Targoos Well you certainly like poking around where the sun doesn't shine. You are squealing about achievements that ENDED 1,000 years ago. Name ONE achievement from the Ottoman Empire. LOL. You can't. As I said, Islam enjoyed being on the crest of a wave that was energized by ALREADY advanced civilisations. You sad, sad people.
@ritchloui The Tashrih al-badan (Anatomy of the body) of Mansur ibn Ilyas (c. 1390) contained comprehensive diagrams of the body's structural, nervous and circulatory systems. Other medical innovations first introduced by Muslim physicians include the discovery of the immune system, the first drugstores in Baghdad, the distinction between medicine and pharmacy by the 12th century, and the discovery of at least 2,000 medicinal and chemical substances.
@ritchloui Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.
@ritchloui Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules.
@ritchloui In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.
@ritchloui Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up.
@YumiOfLyoko Yes. Let's see what Muslim inventions you can come up with. I don't just want you to regurgitate the dishonest Muslim propaganda that just having an Arabic name means the person was Muslim. Indeed, the greatest polymaths often wrote of their contempt of Islam and its idiotic fables. You see, scientific reasoning doesn't sit well with fantasies idiotic non-explanations.
@ritchloui Ibn battuta the great Muslim explorer visited most of the known Islamic world, from North Africa, to the Horn of Africa, to Eastern Europe in the West, to the Middle East, South Asia, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and China in the East, a distance surpassing his near-contemporary Marco Polo. He journeyed more than 75,000 miles, a figure unsurpassed by any individual explorer until the coming of the Steam Age some 450 years later.
@YumiOfLyoko Islam was the Arabs' ticket to the world. They seem to think that because they were ignorant that therefore EVERYONE was ignorant. NO. Sorry. They weren't. The Persians, Byzantines, Romans, Greeks, Chinese had ALREADY been advanced for 1,000 years. Amazing what a bandit robber mind can do; they see something and steal it and claim it was theirs all along. Amazing. Grizzly.
@Targoos These inventions occurred in a brilliant age under rulers that actually followed and implemented Islam.. let us pray that we can live to see it return like that once more.
Hey. When the last convolutions of your dying superpower are over. When you fat US idiots find out that Obama and Bush were puppets for the public and that 3000 of their people were killed by Mossad (with US Gov. blessings of course), and that they were made to pay billions to Israel and waste trillions on wars only to be beaten by Afghans. The Muslims will all thank God and THROW SHOES onto your retreating backs. If youre lucky.
@YumiOfLyoko I don't give a shit about superpower, never have. I just care about sanity and peace. Islam lost both a long long time ago. It is involved in 80-90% of all the world's conflicts today. Human sanity will be saved, but it will cost, unfortunately. Damn muhammad & his f***ing book.
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Zehav22 1 day ago
(IZLAAAM, izlaaaam, the caliphate, caliphate....bohoohohoo.)
I have found that this "islamic scarecrow" in the west is loosing its credibility...soon you'll have to come up with something else, because nobody will believe your bullshit ^_^
Targoos 1 week ago 4
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@BoredToDistraction 1- completely false
2- stupid pfffff
It took you 24h to come up with this stupid answer...
Targoos 2 weeks ago
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Targoos 2 weeks ago
@boredtodistraction The policeman of the earth is apparently shocked ^_^ If you are displeased about the truth, please keep the fair-play and do not pull your blackjack
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos yea, thanks for the word soup.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction hihihihi
Targoos 2 weeks ago
We gave you answers for your questions, but you didn't answer ours ???? So if the criticism is not mutual, we cannot go further in this conversation.
BACKWARD PEOPLE.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
As you don't have an answer for that, let's move on :
5- Genocide of native americans
6- enslavement of african men and force them to hard labour
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos slaughter of 1000s of native americans: horrid. we don't tell our kiddies that they should imitate those responsible to please lallah in the sky. slavery: monstrous. taught to the europeans by muslim arabs and african converts who have practiced it for 12+ centuries. capturing done by muslims, responsible for deaths of 120 millions. abolished by the british after 4 centuries, abolition forced onto the muslim world (but still goes on in africa).
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction What utter, utter lies. Slavery? Good God man, while the Americans were debating over whether Black people could be considered human or not, blacks and whites were living in the Islamic world as equals and brothers, as the Prophet taught us that "a white has no authority over a black, nor a black authority over a white, except in piety" 1400 years previously. Why do you think so many people like Cassius Clay converted to Islam? You really want to talk about slavery?
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Just keep quiet and learn: youTube video "Islam and slavery".
watch?v=wsaPQ8jOqGo
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. You're making it up as you go along. Where did the prophet say "a white has no authority over a black, nor a black authority over a white". LOL. His mafia followers DID, as indeed the moron in this video, say that non-Muslims may not have authority over Muslims. Slavery by another name? Well the Muslims are STILL slavers and that's 1,400 years of it. There is NOTHING in their moral discourse to find slavery objectionable, whereas in the West we find it morally indefensible.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko African slaves were ROUTINELY castrated. You call that treating them as 'equals and brothers'. Well, I'm sorry, but I beg to differ. Just where ARE the descendants of the 21+ MILLION Africans transported throughout the Caliphate? Where are the African descendants in Arabia? The Arab slave trade was SO terrible and SO barbaric that even the obliteration is used as an excuse.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Nope, I didn't make it up.
The Prophet (pbuh) said:
“ All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. „
—(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7, Ch. 3)
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko THIS is the death cult of Islam as advocated by its own votaries. Abu Hamza: “In an Islamic land if you find a kuffir you can either sell him in the market or just kill him. It’s ok”
Raed Said Hussein Saad, Al-Qassam Brigades Commander “We succeeded, with Allah’s grace, to raise an ideological generation that loves death like our enemies love life.”
Do you really think that such an ideology can bring ANYTHING but bloodshed and tyranny?
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Who is Abu Hamza and who is Raed Said? We Muslims follow the Quran, the Hadith, and fatawi (rulings). Yes, Islam as an ideology, has brought a brilliant age of education, knowledge, morality and security in the past, and it can do so, if implemented once more by leaders of Muslims, and once the successive and ongoing US/Israeli attacks on Muslim countries are STOPPED.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. Islam has disabled all the once advanced civilisations of the Middle East. Even more obscene is the Islamic claim that the achievements of these ALREADY advanced civilisations were Islamic. LOL. No mention of WHO preserved the works by polytheistic Greeks and Indians for 1,000 years BEFORE Islam. No mention of WHO translated that work. Still, it all ended 1,000 years ago, BECAUSE of Islam. You are a deluded moron.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
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@ritchloui You're repeating yourself man...it's the same bullshit that you've been saying again and again.
You didn't even answer most of our questions.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui You scurry away every time I disprove you in an argument and cling to something else. Don't you think its obvious that you are un-ravelling here.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Tell me. What was the FIRST instruction given to Mohammed? He was told to 'READ'. Isn't it interesting that he disobeyed his first instruction and 'RECITED'. In other words he did not 'read' he 'dictated'. Furthermore, as far as we know, he NEVER did read.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
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@ritchloui Sorry to intervene guys, I know that Yumi fucked you up but I just wanna add something ^_^
Ok, some dutsh men were found to keep moroccan disabled as slaves for 7 years. They raped them and abusef them. Ok, if that case of the saudis were to condemn a whole nation, then this one prooves that you are far worst than us.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
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@ritchloui And one more thing, don't you ever bring examples from some countries like saudi arabia that was created by the british imperialism to destroy the caliphate, the regime has nothing to do with islam. In islam there is the Caliphate not the monarchy. If someday we have the caliphate, I believe that we will overstep you in science once again ;-)
Targoos 2 weeks ago
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@ritchloui Last but not least, even if you're displeased man, don't jump from a matter to another like that.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Black Muslims have intermarried with Muslims from all races, so you will see Arabs who look like Black. Sudan is an Arab country btw. Slavery in Islamic countries ended centuries before it ended in the West. Are you sure you know who you're describing? While Yanks were keeping them as slaves, breeding them &Europeans debating over whether they should be considered "human", white Christians saying they should be made to "obey Whites & God for their own good" then you accuse Islam? lol
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko You really don't know ANYTHING about Islam do you. You just lap up their idiotic self-adulation. Negro slaves were openly sold in Mecca until the 1960's. The practice didn't stop because the Arabs found the practice morally repugnant, FAR from it, they ceased because of pressure from the more advanced civilisations of the West. Islam was built ENTIRELY on slavery. That's why Muslims are SO unproductive. Even Taiwan DWARFS all the Muslim countries COMBINED for productivity.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Hahaha ha. If that was true, then I would be one of those peoples you claim "suffered compulsory Arabization".
True that Arabic language and culture originated in the Arabian Peninsula. But Jordan, Iraq, Egypt & the rest of North Africa, Syria & Palestine are proud of being Arab; these people will smack you if you say otherwise. I'll tell you what was forced on the Arab countries though. Borders drawn up over what was once collectively known as Arabia, by Europeans who divided us.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui <<Liar. There is no slavery in the Muslim countries, slavery ended centuries ago. And there was no racism since the time of the Prophet, who said blacks and whites were equal, (hadith I posted below), whereas in the West, 1000 years later, Yanks and Europeans were debating over whether they could be considered human or not. You were the ones who decided to ship and enslave people, purely because of their skin colour. The West was the last to end slavery. What a bunch of hypocrites.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Slavery is still practiced OPENLY in Sudan and Mauritania and under the surface in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman and Niger. In the US in 2006-7 a Saudi man, an Egyptian, 2 Kuwaitis, were all FOUND GUILTY of keeping slaves. The Saudi, Homaidan Al-Turki , said in his defense "Your honor, I am not here to apologize... The state has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors". He kept an Indonesian maid captive for FOUR YEARS to service his every need and to rape her at will. DISGUSTING!
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Yes, Disgusting people, condemned by the law and condemned by Islam. ;)
Criminals like that are found in the west too. I wonder what that was supposed to prove?
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Tell me, when has an African EVER owned an Arab as a slave? In all 1,400 years of the Muslim slave trade, your 'equals and brothers' seem to have always gone one way. Well, it's a bit like the one-way street of 'tolerance'. We, the advanced civilisations of the world should be 'tolerant' of the insanely 'intolerant, supremacist, separatist, wife beating, honor killing, throat slitting, gang rapist' Muslims who want to built their hornets nests everywhere. Koran in a toilet IS art!
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
Your arguments are useless, invalid, because North Africans ARE Arabs, most of Arab land today is in Africa.
"Honor killing" as I said, a phrase invented by the west, has no Arabic translation. No such thing as "Honor Killing" in Islam (Quran/ Hadith). Murder will send murderer to hell. Lawful killing is never for honour but for God.
"Wife beating, throat slitting" ... c'mon. What class you have.
You even admit you're ignorant. I take it youre trying to waste my time, and won't answer further.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. More Arab supremacist garbage. Aside from the routine genocides that have ALWAYS accompanied Islam - and that's slaughter of non-Muslims and the 'wrong sort of Muslims'. The Egyptians, Berbers, Copts, Nubians, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Persians and others are NOT Arabs! What they have suffered is compulsory Arabisation and the obliteration of their own cultures and languages. Reduced to the idiocy of 7th century Arab bandits.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui What? What is supremacist in the Prophet's hadith? The Prophet, who said an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab? Here is the Hadith again. Did you read it, and why are you ignoring facts? "An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action."
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
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DO NOT FORGET TO explain the following :
1- a rape occurs every 6 seconds in the US
2- dropping nukes over cities, hiroshima and nakasaki
3- killing millions in IRAQ and afghanistan and such..
4- arming guerrillas and causing conflicts all over the globe
Targoos 2 weeks ago
There is nothing the west can be proud of...don't you dare teach others ! Leave us alone.
Except some scientic inventions, you have pretty much nothing to export ^_^
Targoos 2 weeks ago
American people think that they have freedom...What is freedom ? Is it merely to have the right to have gay relations and drink alcohol ? Freedom means perversion ?
Targoos 2 weeks ago
Real muslims, real christians, real jews DO EXIST ! But opressed by immoral leaders.
We have leaders that doesn't represent Islam, now there is revolution against them. Our leaders are employers for the west, now we kick them out one after the other. And when the moslim world is finally ruled by islam, you will see the scientific advance, we will leave you behind in 10 years ;-)
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos My brother we have to be careful about this (replacing the existing regimes with Muslim regimes. ) I hear this is also part of the Zionist plan. You must see this speech by Sheikh Imran Hosein ~ youtube.com/v/0nR7-Cmszpo. After Muslim empires rule, they want to wage wars on us.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Sheikh Imran Hosein is one of the most deluded and evil men I have ever come across on the internet. He speaks as a serpent. There is no good in him. He will lead you as so many sheep to the slaughter.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Want to see more Islamic inventions by early Muslims? Here you go.
The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko I do not agree 100% with the thesis of Imran hosein. As he hasn't a crystal ball by which he can see the future...but since it's the only logical approach that exists so far...
The actual regimes must go to hell. What is to come...sad but, it's Allah's will
Targoos 2 weeks ago
The leader of the world in pedophilia : USA
Targoos 2 weeks ago
Wikipedia : rape in the united states.
Can you read it from top to bottom ? You will have an idea about how advanced you are...
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos The US will sink to the lowest of the low. They spend twice the amount they earn. They don't issue their own money, but the private Rothschild banks in their country issue loans and create money from debt. They are already indebted to a potential enemy (China). They have wasted trillions in the last few years, are in a deep recession and will never get out after their next war. They're so desperate they killed Gaddafi and Saddam because they both said they won't trade oil in the dollar.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Yeah ^_^ every american child is born with a 400.000$ debt
Soon the US economy will collapse and Israel will take the leadership from the US,,,but the rule of Israel won't be for long, the caliphat will return and islam will rule the world.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos True.. Its time for Muslims to start looking beyond the US. I don't feel so much hatred toward them because they're finished. Just look at the line of Presidential candidates for 2012, they don't even know where Russia is on a world Map. Look at Bush, Obama, Romney, Anyone with a working brain cell can see that they're all dumb illiterate puppets and don't run the country in any way. I can already see the Zionists operating behind them. Their whole presidential election is a sham.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko 44 presidents, 44 cousins .. even the black ^_^
There is no democracy, no freedom in the US.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
I'm not finished yet, but answer these 4 questions first...so that we move on
Targoos 2 weeks ago
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explain the following :
1- a rape occurs every 6 seconds in the US
2- dropping nukes over cities, hiroshima and nakasaki
3- killing millions in IRAQ and afghanistan and such..
4- arming guerrillas and causing conflicts all over the globe
and more to come, but answer this first
Targoos 2 weeks ago
The number one at rape dare to teach others about morality...what a shame
Targoos 2 weeks ago
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explain the following :
1- a rape occurs every 6 seconds in the US
2- dropping nukes over cities, hiroshima and nakasaki
3- killing millions in IRAQ and afghanistan and such..
4- arming guerrillas and causing conflicts all over the globe
and more to come, but answer this first
Targoos 2 weeks ago
10 rapes per minute. 600 rapes per hour...slow down ! hahahaha
14 400 per day
WOW
Your laws are very efficient indeeeeed ^_^
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@Targoos This is SO idiotic. The fact that Muslim societies are SO backward, SO violent and SO out of control you might as well say that there are no rapes in Sudan or Somalia. You haven't got a clue. Who would even know about it in Saudi Arabia, they are perfectly entitled to rape their maids, so it's not even a crime.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui I return you the compliment ;-)
But I'm so disappointed...can't you just answer fairly ?
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Abu al-Qasim, who some have called the father of modern surgery, wrote the Kitab al-Tasrif, a 30-volume medical encyclopedia which was taught at Muslim and European medical schools until the 17th century.
Avicenna, considered among the most influential medical scholars in history,wrote The Canon of Medicine &The Book of Healing, which remained standard textbooks in both Muslim and European universities until the 17th century.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Pathetic. Tell me, WHEN did Abu al-Qasim write? Oh. Exactly as I said, 1,000 years ago. As I have repeatedly said, Islam put AN END to all this advancement. Islam is NOT about rational investigation it is about fairy tales and dogma. This work is NOT Islamic. Islam is about nonsense and always will be. It's just pathetic you so desperately want to claim for it ideas it has NOTHING in common with.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Yes, 1000 years ago, when Islam was actually implemusunted properly, when the Muslim Empire was ruled by real Muslim leaders, and a force to be reckoned with, when people followed the instructions in the Quran that said to seek knowledge, that said that people with knowledge can never be equal to people who are ignorant.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Want to see more inventions from real Muslims?
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Real Muslims - oh yes, another idiotic fantasy. What do you know about what ANY of these polymaths actually said about Islam? But we know what Muslims of today are saying. I think they are keen on bringing their children up wanting to die. Shoving them in bomb vests, that sort of thing. And you really think the polymaths who stopped word 1,000 years ago were Islamic? Find out what they thought of Islam first.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui The world is not ruled by religious people unfortunately...If it was, there would be no wars. because religions can co-exist peacefully
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera after noticing the way light came through a hole in window shutters. The smaller the hole, the better the picture, he worked out, and set up the first Camera Obscura (from the Arab word qamara for a dark or private room).
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
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explain the following :
1- a rape occurs every 6 seconds in the US
2- dropping nukes over cities, hiroshima and nakasaki
3- killing millions in IRAQ and afghanistan and such..
4- arming guerrillas and causing conflicts all over the globe
and more to come, but answer this first
Targoos 2 weeks ago
explain the following :
1- a rape occurs every 6 seconds in the US
2- dropping nukes over cities, hiroshima and nakasaki
3- killing millions in IRAQ and afghanistan and such..
4- arming guerrillas and causing conflicts all over the globe
and more to come, but answer this first
Targoos 2 weeks ago 3
@Targoos They will never answer that bro hahaha
MoonGhLi 2 weeks ago
@MoonGhLi They should, or else I'll leave -.-
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos 3- JIHADISTS from all over the middle east come to iraq & afghanistan to kill civilians & US soldiers & destroy any chance of a decent democracy and society to take root. Iraq: sunnis & shia are battling it out to see who ends up top.
4- no, you are describing islam. it's involved in 80-90% of conflicts in the world. it won't rest until muhammad's psychosis replays in every globe corner until the end of time. bizarre would be an understatement.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
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@BoredToDistraction 3- this is absurd...as of when the US seeks to establish democracy ?
4- 80-90% of conflicts caused by whom in the first place ? USA and israel
Ok man, is that your answer ? because I'm really disappointed
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction As for the video, what a piece of propaganda, with no sources to back up its absurd claims. Know how I know it's all lies? In our language (and I speak Arabic), we don't describe any black people as "abed". I can see the source of your delusion and ignorance, no wonder these are the views you have of Islam, if this is the rubbish you're watching.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko You are TRULY PATHETIC, no integrity whatsoever. Dismissing any uncomfortable truth about your "religion" as "propaganda", while spitting on a civilisation that is constantly studying its mistakes and educating the whole world about them to everyone's benefit. This kind of juvenile tactics might have worked for muhammad in the 7th century, but in this one, it won't get you far.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction "A civilization that is constantly studying its mistakes and educating the whole world about them"... could you be referring to the US? Excuse me, but even Afghans know more about geography and politics than the US. Even poor people in third-world countries know more about geography and US actions than Yanks themselves. When you say "educate the world", do you mean like THIS
youtube.com/v/PrWguVsEih0
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko SCHOLARSHIP. Thousands and thousands of books about its history. Constant research. Public self-criticism and debates. Creation of the UN, Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Museums, memorials, etc., about its role in slavery, discrimination against native americans, black people, homosexuals, women, etc. The list is ENDLESS. Teaching in schools. Self-criticism in Islam? When? Where?
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction Creation of the UN? Declaration of Human Rights? Fat load of good its done to all of us! The people of the US are clearly geographically illiterate & their news networks clearly don't deal with anything outside the US, & even their leaders believe Afghanistan's in the Middle East, and that Africa's a country, or that Russia can be seen from Alaska. Witness one of those illiterate jarheads proclaiming that the Pakistan-Iraq border is a threat to stability.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko I had no idea one needs to know geography to understand basic human rights, this is a revelation. And, truly sorry that the declaration of human rights you never signed hasn't done you "a fat load of good".
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction We do criticize radicals in fact. Muslims can tell apart corruption from righteousness &have driven out many oppressive leaders. The Afghans would've done the same to the Taliban had US not interfered (financed it during the era of communism in Afghnistan, then turned around &installed a puppet regime and started the War there, making people sympathetic to Taliban). AlQaeda I can't speak for since it's paid by the US, conveniently followed their presence in Iraq & elsewhere.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko Video of a speech by terminal nutcase Ahmandinejad? Are you SERIOUS????
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
Ahmedinejad actually has far more sense &common decency than any Western leader (youtube.com/v/oLkiM4CHAJo), he w/most of world's population has grasped the workings of US foreign policy: give First Aid to countries that could be bribed into following orders at the expense of their people (Mubarak), finance oppressive dictators as long as they support US aims (Saddam, Taliban), when they change or sell oil in Euro bomb their countries & install new regime run by IMF & private Rothschild bank.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko Despite extensive geographical and political knowledge, it appears that many Afghans do not yet understand that Thou Shalt Not Help Your Friends Drive Planes into Buildings, Thou Shalt Not Exchange Little Girls For Goats With Potential Wife-Killers, Thou Shalt Not Shoot Sexually Active or Sexually Violated Women in Football Stadiums, Thou Shalt Not Teach Little Boys To Reach Paradise With A Suicide Bomb Vest... endless list of horrors, one book.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction The book no-one follows, or has heard of, again (and I live in a Muslim country, and religious studies is compulsory here from school age). We in Islam follow Quran, Hadith, and fatwas (rulings). We don't follow some hippy "manual", first time I ever hear of one. You are making a fool of yourself, or covering up for having gotten the Quranic verse BACKWARDS. There are only 2 mentions of the famous four witnesses in the Quran, and I will post them below (cont).
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
{And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses to support their allegations,- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors} Quran 24;4
{And (as for) the ones of your women who come up with the obscenity, so, call four of you to witness against them. Then in case they (bear) witness, then retain them in the homes until death takes them up, or Allah ordains for them another way.} Quran 4:15
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
The Quranic verses below state the purpose of the Four Witnesses: a protection for women from slander. What lies you've made, saying they were needed to prove rape!
I hope you see what a fool you're making of yourself, by clinging to that Traveller book. The Quran says the opposite of what you claim about Islam. No Hadith /fatwa supports your claims either. I'm not even sure that book supports you, since I haven't read & can't access it, but in any case it is not something Muslims follow.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Islamic Sharia Council > Fatwa Search > On The Testimony of Women (point 2)
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction Cases of serious nature, like that of fornication, adultery and rape attract a very hard punishment in Islam. Flogging a hundred times for unmarried couples and stoning to the married ones. To prove such an allegation, even two male witnesses are not enough, but four of them are required. Suppose those who witnessed were women alone.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction How many times must I repeat this to you, moron... THE FOUR WITNESSES IN ISLAM are NOT required for rape (according to Quran 24:4, which you have changed the meaning of).
No verse in the Quran, says that ANY witnesses are needed in order to prove rape. I challenge you to bring one Quranic verse, or Hadith, that says that a witness needs to be present in order to prove rape.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko What do you call a 21st century human being whose main frame of reference, whose whole moral basis, are the actions and sayings of a deranged serial killer from the 7th century?
But anyway. The relevant quranic verses & hadith deal with charges of 'adultery', from which islamic law has derived rulings on rape. Eg., Reliance of the Traveller, fatwa issued by the Islamic Sharia Council posted above. But we are COMPLETE MORONS, and will listen to YumiOfLyoko instead, won't we?
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction says "Hasan Mahmud, Director of Sharia Law of the Muslim Canadian Congress" - yeah, sounds impressive until I find out that the "Muslim Canadian Congress" has only 300 members. Had actually, doesn't even exist today.
You ARE a complete moron, and I have not a clue about these absurd sources. When I google your source, I come up with a list of Anti-Islamic websites. Maybe you still haven't grasped that actual Muslims don't get their religious teachings from sites like these.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction Haha ha ha....you're joking with me, bro, you're joking with me.. patience is running out... your so-called "Muslim Canadian Congress" is followed by 300 people, and doesn't even exist today. Muslims Don't Follow That, Nor Any Source Listed In Your Anti-Islamic Websites. Muslims Follow Quran, Hadith, and Fatwas by Prominent Scholars - The Type of Teaching You Will Find In Islamic Websites. Try Looking At Some OF Those.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko "Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Rape", and "Rape in Islam", both on Wikislam. Complete with real-life news items from the "Anti-Islamic" Islamic world. I had NO IDEA the Islamic Sharia Center was an Anti-Islamic Website! I will never check their fatwas again... Also, please somebody warns al-Azhar University about their certifying gypsy books.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction You live in wonderland...
Every american is born with a 400.000$ of debt, did you know it ? Well, that's the price of oppressing people.
Your laws are inefficient, or else there wouldn't be a rape every 6 seconds and other forms of criminality. Even kids now can have access to guns.
But no wonder if a country, created from genocide and replacement of races, would disappear eventually.
Targoos 1 week ago
@Targoos Islam's bodycount: one quarter of a billion people and counting. Islam's contributions: qur'an, jihad. Here I give you one efficient law that will fit your mentality and warm your heart: kill everybody, and no human being will ever offend allah again.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction In Islam, if rape can be proven in any way, including DNA evidence, recorded material, or even sole testimony of the victim in some cases, then the rapist will receive the punishment. NO WITNESSES REQUIRED. How ignorant you are! And yes, the rapist will receive a very severe punishment under Islamic law, which thankfully is the best protection for women.
Compare this to the US where only 6% of rapists ever serve a day in jail!
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko Google "The Final Sharia Sampler: Rape Under Islamic Law". Written by Hasan Mahmud, Director of Sharia Law of the Muslim Canadian Congress.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction You are speaking on whims and assumptions, and really don't know a thing about Muslim countries, do you? If you went to SA and even looked at their women inappropriately you'll be lashed and sent to jail for the rest of your life. Much unlike the west where 21 year old serial paedophiles will be classed as "young offenders" & get only 6 years in jail. Keep bleating about "the women, the women" in Muslim societies. You make yourself a joke in front of the aforementioned women.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko "looked at their women inappropriately you'll be lashed and sent to jail for the rest of your life".
I cannot find adequate words... lunatic... savage... decadent... primitive... unfit... anti-human... terminally insane.
I can almost see why some people call your world "satanic"; nothing else compares. This is all I can take.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction Ha ha ha... Yes, if you look at women inappropriately in Muslim countries you will be lashed and jailed. And porn is banned. Good for us. We don't have the moral deprivation you have, where 20% of your country's women are raped or suffer attempted rape.Or one every 2 minutes. Lol.
YumiOfLyoko 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko A man looks at a woman "inappropriately": a woman can blush, give him dirty looks, smile, look the other way, look at him "inappropriately" if she likes him back, laugh her head off. What have you been learning in 1400 years?
We will never know the percentage of women raped in the islamic world. There is no real understanding of what constitutes rape. Charges of "adultery" can lead to a death sentence to the rape victim. So twisted it beggars belief.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@YumiOfLyoko And on the rare occasions that rape is proven, the rapist is often lashed and then executed. Monsters. No human compassion, no human feelings, no attempt to understand, forgive, teach the sex offender about healthy relationships. Only brutal, sadistic, mindless revenge.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction Brutal sadistic mindless revenge not because a man treated a woman as an object, but because a man helped himself to a muslim man's property. Not all muslims "think" that way, but that's the qur'anic bottom line about rape.
BoredToDistraction 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction Do you know the requirements to create a TV channel or a newspaper in the US ? I challenge you to try to start a news TV channel without any jews in your team...ha ha ha Yes you can start a TV channel about, porn, science, movies, music, bla bla bla...but no politics
Where is you so called freedom ?
Targoos 1 week ago
@BoredToDistraction (contd) If the number of witnesses is doubled, less would be the chance for the implementation of this punishment. Many people do not object a lot to these ways of punishment but they do not realize how difficult it has been made in Islam, to prove such allegations.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
Listen to the squealing pig Sheik Ahmad Abu Quddum when he is confronted with facts. A severely mentally disturbed psychopath. Yup. This is Islam; deluded, demented zombies living in a schizoid world where everything is its opposite, peace is war, war is peace, slavery is freedom and freedom is slavery. Even their evil book is written in reverse.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
True, Christians (and until recently, Jews) lived across the Middle Eastern countries for many years as neighbours and equals. Like this video. We attack whomever attacks us FIRST, and drive out invaders, and DO TO THEM AS THEY DO TO US. We don't attack innocents, we don't attack people for simply being unbelievers (as claim those who like to take verses out of context), nor do we attack anyone else who hasn't attacked us FIRST. Clever man, speaks the truth. This is true Jihad!
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Of course you are a shameless LIAR. If Islam didn't attack first it wouldn't have got out of Medina you moron. Islam has been spread entirely by FORCE. Mohammed barely managed to get 300 followers in more than 10 years of 'persuasion'. No, it was when he turned bandit and racketeer that he got his 'message' across. What a piece of shit your mind has become.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui "Spread ENTIRELY by force", huh? And yet you yourself just mentioned Medina, the FIRST city ever to be opened by Muslims, which was done entirely without force, in fact the people themselves came willingly to the Prophet!
As for Mecca, and every other place where you claim the religion Islam has spread "by force". Can people ever be FORCED to believe in something? If you hold swords to people's throats, you might force them to say they believe you for a short time but they never will!
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko LOL. How many people born under the jackboot of Islam would openly admit that they reject Islam? Muslims, instead of questioning Islam find themselves excusing FGM, stoning, maiming, wife beating, honor killings, genocide, child marriage. Yup, Muslims even find a way to explain away a 54 year old warlord having sex with a 9 year old child and permitting men to rape their slaves. Backward thinking by a backward religion.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Forgive me to say this, but you're the only backward person here.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui You are ignorant, could not counter an argument. You say the US was wrong to choose aggression, true as the fact is that more people around the world hate the US than ever. But in the case of Islam, Islam spread rapidly in the first few years of rule under the Prophet and Caliphs, so many embraced it that nearly 1/4 of the world is Muslim today. Since swords can't force people to permanently believe in something they don't, that would mean Islam didn't do what America did (aggression)
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Wrong, liar. FGM PRE-DATES Islam and is entirely a cultural matter, mostly in Africa. On Wikipedia you'll see that of the top 30 countries practising FGM, only 6 are Muslim. What about the 24 NON-MUSLIM countries that practise FGM?
No child marriage in Islam, the religion which gave women the right to chose a spouse. It is practised in all third countries. What about Indian child brides?
"Honor killing"-Western phrase invented to slander Islam. Not even an Arabic translation for this.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko FGM has followed Islam out of Africa and occurs as far afield as Kurdistan, Indonesia and Singapore. So clearly Islam has played its part in continuing it. NONE of the other great world religions has EVER condoned it in any way. You keep excusing how backward Islam is by making false comparisons; Islam aims to MAKE everyone submit to it. Islamic Shariah is a DISGRACEFUL evil system; it's too late when it's enforced and that's what follows when Islam dominates.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui I just want to know from whom/where did you get these informations about islam ?! damn...it's the typical arguments of islamophobists all over the globe. We give you answers but you keep escaping them, you divert the subject most of the time, you jump from a matter to another...
PS; you spew the same bullshit...change the disc man
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Islam does NOT encourage, does NOT condone, does NOT enforce female genital mutilation, in any Quranic verse, in any Hadith, under any Islamic law. Give one source to support your claims. FGM has not followed Islam out of Africa; in fact, it is declining rapidly in Muslim countries and long since gone in other countries. Once again, only 6 of the top 30 FGM-practicing countries are Muslim. Once again, it is entirely a cultural, social matter, which Islam has played no part in.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui (..cont) Genocide is what's being carried out by the Americans in Iraq, resulting in half a million Iraqi children dead (by UN estimates), and on Afghanistan where they blow up entire villages for "progress", by Israel which killed 6000 Palestinians, and most recently in Libya using unmanned drones where civilian: target ratio is 50:1.
"Stoning, wife beating"? What's this? What class.. Here's a Muslim woman telling you hypocrite to shut your mouth & stop speaking on my behalf.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui 3 Things I repeat to everyone who slanders the Prophet (pbuh) regarding the lady A'isha :
1. 9 as an age of marriage was the norm in that time. In Scandinavia in Viking times 500 years after the Prophet's time girls got married typically aged 11
2. There was no contraception in those days. So if she was raped she would have had kids in her teens. But didnt.
3. A'isha was the second-largest narrater of Hadith, narrated around 2000. If she was raped, why was she so KEEN to spread ISLAM?
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko You see, I really find it distasteful to hear excuses for a 54 year old having sex with a 9 year old. As for children, as far as I know, Aisha never had children - her reproductive tract had almost certainly been destroyed by Mohammed. No-one regards Viking morality to be applicable TODAY, but Mohammed's filthy antics are used all over the Islamic world as justification for old men having sex with little girls.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui For the belief in God to seep into someone's heart, and for them to GENUINELY accept it as being true, and for them to dedicate their lives to achieving the ultimate goal (heaven) & to base their lives around it, true belief like that has never and will never be achieved by the power of a sword, or by aggression! Aggression will only cause you to hate the aggressor & what they stand for! Have the Americans, by their use of force in other countries, succeeded in changing their beliefs?
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Here you speak the language I understand and wish to hear. You are right, the US made a terrible error in choosing aggression. Indeed it has done PRECISELY what its enemies wanted. After 9/11 it had the opportunity of winning hearts and minds but instead it opted for vengeance. As regards religious belief, delusion is one thing but coercion in matters of faith breeds hypocrites. This is Islam's own legacy and it cannot escape it.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was a man who lived only in poverty after receiving revelation. Even after opening Mecca & many other lands, after becoming in effect the Emperor of the Arabian Peninsula! - he used to live in a small house, sleep on a mat stuffed with hay, clout his own cloak, milk his own sheep, participate in house chores & never have enough to fill his stomach. He gave all goods and money brought to him to a mosque to be picked up by the poor!
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Well. Perhaps you might be willing to take up the following challenge. These are the accusations leveled at Muhammad by former Muslim Ali Sina. He has offered $50,000 to anyone who could prove otherwise based on Islamic texts. :
"Muhammad is a narcissist, a pedophile, a mass murderer, a terrorist, a misogynist, a lecher, a cult leader, a madman a rapist, a torturer, an assassin and a looter."
So far the reward has gone unclaimed
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Every statement you made in your absurd comment, from sentence one to sentence six, is an indication of your ignorance of the history of Islam, of the life of the Prophet Muhammad, and of the fundamentals of human psychology. Your brain is fully functioning, but you of your own choice refuse to use it. Your own choice, remember that.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Muslim Conquests on Wikipedia. Or if Wikipedia is beneath you, Islamic Imperialism, by Efraim Karsh. Body-count of jihad against unbelievers is found on website Political Islam > Tears of Jihad. Daily body-count of current global jihad: website Religion of Peace. Truth hurts, but not as much as Islam.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction Nothing hurts as I am well aware of the truth, & have seen all those links. Yourself, are you aware of the truth? Prophet Muhammad has said the following: "Prophethood will remain among you as long as Allah wills. Then caliphates on the lines of Prophethood shall commence, and remain as long as Allah wills. Then corrupt erosive monarchy would take place, and it will remain as long as Allah wills.Then despotic kingship would emerge, and it will remain as long as Allah wills."
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko I know the kind of crazy meaningless bs Muhammad came up with ever since he started hallucinating, but thank you for your help. It is puzzling in the 21st century to be unable to recognise schizophrenia when it stares you in the face. Now, 270 million "unbelievers" deaths: can you AT LEAST recognise psychopathy?
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction After the death of the Prophet and the five Caliphs of Islam - who under their rule, Islam had spread fastest among nations - Muslim rule consisted of a succession of empires ruled by kings, who ruled not for religion but for power and greed, including the Moghuls, who killed many on the Indian subcontinent, south and east Asia, even killing Middle eastern Muslims and building towers of skulls in Syria and Iraq. And the Muslim countries have been in decline ever since.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko I agree with you brother.
PS; Youssef Ibn Tachafine was a real caliph. I can say that we had 6 caliphs in Islam, but that's it...unfortunately
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos Salam! Hey, I remember you bro :)
I haven't heard of Yousef bin Tachafine, I'll look into him more soon. But the age of Khilapha described the Prophet was supposed to last 30 years, so that would mean the first 5 rulers up till Hasan bin Ali were Caliphs. It was according to some accurate calculations which even predicted the length of the British /American Empires, and so on. A video I found here ~ youtube.com/v/wqtt0h2tDto
But you may be right, as there will be a total of 12 Caliphs.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko I know you would like to claim that the spread of Islam was by kings who ruled for power not religion. However, if Islam was such a religion of peace it is more than a little noteworthy that 3 of the 4 Caliphs after Muhammad's death were all murdered. It doesn't sound like Islam really was a 'religion of peace' at all but a mafia-style racket built entirely on the methods of Muhammad himself; namely military conquest, slaving and robbery.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko In decline? Too bad :( But we all know the Solution, don't we? We must return to the True spiritual teachings of Prophet Muhammad: tax, subdue, humiliate, pillage, terrorise, amputate, enslave, rape, stone, torture, stab, behead, burn to death. Allahu akbar.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction YES, we WILL return to the teachings of the Prophet, & get rid of what will come after the fall of the US which ACTUALLY taxes
(poor nations by the usual package of IMF, World Bank, & private Rothschild-owned central bank)
humiliates, pillages, terrorises (babies in Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya)
rapes (Abeer Qassim Al Janabi one among many)
tortures (Guantanamo, Abu Ghuraib)
enslaves (Indonesia, China, Taiwan)
then subdues (people from every country that gather to say GET OUT).
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Let us see what happens when the US stops helping poor nations, stops trying to protect muslim people from their crazed islamic tyrans, quits trying to help build civil societies in islamic medieval hellholes, lets jihadists loose in those hellholes, close down all doors to muslim refugees from these hellholes, cuts aid, stops military assistance, finishes all trade, all exchange with the muslim world (educational, technological, scientific, medical...).
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction you are a joke
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction no one believes this bullshit anymore...just mind your own business mister policeman of the earth and let others be.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos Muslims don't believe the islamic bullshit anymore? Oh cool, I'm gone then.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction the bullshit is CNN and the rest your useless media
Islam is a civilisation, not only a religion
We enlightened Europe, just for the record.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos LOL. Islam rode on the back of the ALREADY advanced civilisations of the ME. Who preserved the Ancient Greek texts for 1,000 years before Islam? Who translated them into Arabic? Yes, those civilisations managed to continue for a while, but eventually the ignorant Imams put an end to it. No achievement for 1,000 years and you have the cheek to take credit for what Islam actually DESTROYED.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui You are ignorant & reply just so it seems like you have something to say. Prior to Islam people lived in ignorance, were illiterate, traded & herded. The Golden Age of Islam is what spawned Muslim physicists, medicine practitioners, inventors, poets, travellers. Muslims invented the decimal system, Islamic architecture,geometric art, the numbers used by the West today, musical instruments & many other inventions. I'll be posting them. All because the Quran commanded to seek knowledge.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Speak for yourself. Yes, prior to Islam the Arabs were possibly backward. We'll never know of course, because Muslims have destroyed, no OBLITERATED, everything pre-Islamic in Arabia. Muslims did NOT invent the decimal system, that was Hindu (another shameless theft). NO, the nomads did NOT have architecture, but the sedentary civilisations had had architecture for 1,000 years already. Stop you idiotic lies, you show your ignorance.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Non-Muslim inventions
Computers, the software to run them, the internet, global communications, aircraft, cars, trains, rockets, satellites, spacecraft, skyscrapers, telescope, microscope, eyeglasses, contact lenses, microwave ovens, washing machines, metallurgy, plastics, synthetics, most pharmaceuticals, modern preservatives, most scientific breakthroughs, most mathematics, most physics breakthroughs, periodic table, chemistry and biology breakthroughs, modern genetics,
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko more non-Muslim inventions: modern surgery, anaesthetics, modern astronomy, clocks, watches, oceanography, discovery of DNA, unlocking the genome, harnessing electricity, nuclear energy, wireless technology, central heating, air conditioning, water purification, refrigerators, recorded music, the piano, the electric guitar, amplifiers, motion pictures, TV, radio, telephones, mobiles , touch screens, colour printing, light bulb, modern agricultural techniques and farming methods.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Why did you jump to another matter *_* ??
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos Because he can't counter the argument.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko We are moslims and proud...what the hell is their problem with us ^_^
They envy us...narrow minded people, amazed by a few scientific inventions. 0 Morality.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos Well you certainly like poking around where the sun doesn't shine. You are squealing about achievements that ENDED 1,000 years ago. Name ONE achievement from the Ottoman Empire. LOL. You can't. As I said, Islam enjoyed being on the crest of a wave that was energized by ALREADY advanced civilisations. You sad, sad people.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Stop the rethoric and stop changing the fucking subject.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Ottomans.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui The Tashrih al-badan (Anatomy of the body) of Mansur ibn Ilyas (c. 1390) contained comprehensive diagrams of the body's structural, nervous and circulatory systems. Other medical innovations first introduced by Muslim physicians include the discovery of the immune system, the first drugstores in Baghdad, the distinction between medicine and pharmacy by the 12th century, and the discovery of at least 2,000 medicinal and chemical substances.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Yes. Let's see what Muslim inventions you can come up with. I don't just want you to regurgitate the dishonest Muslim propaganda that just having an Arabic name means the person was Muslim. Indeed, the greatest polymaths often wrote of their contempt of Islam and its idiotic fables. You see, scientific reasoning doesn't sit well with fantasies idiotic non-explanations.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui Ibn battuta the great Muslim explorer visited most of the known Islamic world, from North Africa, to the Horn of Africa, to Eastern Europe in the West, to the Middle East, South Asia, Central Asia, Southeast Asia and China in the East, a distance surpassing his near-contemporary Marco Polo. He journeyed more than 75,000 miles, a figure unsurpassed by any individual explorer until the coming of the Steam Age some 450 years later.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Islam was the Arabs' ticket to the world. They seem to think that because they were ignorant that therefore EVERYONE was ignorant. NO. Sorry. They weren't. The Persians, Byzantines, Romans, Greeks, Chinese had ALREADY been advanced for 1,000 years. Amazing what a bandit robber mind can do; they see something and steal it and claim it was theirs all along. Amazing. Grizzly.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
@ritchloui I'm really looking forward to having an answer...shall I recall the topic ?
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@Targoos These inventions occurred in a brilliant age under rulers that actually followed and implemented Islam.. let us pray that we can live to see it return like that once more.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko Soon :-)
Power is only everlasting to Allah. As for a country, It raise, reach the top and fall again...
They should learn from history.
But we are not savages like them, when we have power, we do not opress.
Targoos 2 weeks ago
@BoredToDistraction Ha ha ha ha!
<< Wish everyone would see this.
Hey. When the last convolutions of your dying superpower are over. When you fat US idiots find out that Obama and Bush were puppets for the public and that 3000 of their people were killed by Mossad (with US Gov. blessings of course), and that they were made to pay billions to Israel and waste trillions on wars only to be beaten by Afghans. The Muslims will all thank God and THROW SHOES onto your retreating backs. If youre lucky.
YumiOfLyoko 2 weeks ago
@YumiOfLyoko I don't give a shit about superpower, never have. I just care about sanity and peace. Islam lost both a long long time ago. It is involved in 80-90% of all the world's conflicts today. Human sanity will be saved, but it will cost, unfortunately. Damn muhammad & his f***ing book.
BoredToDistraction 2 weeks ago