Christianity is faker than "pro" wrestling. This new wave of drugged out on jesus christians is very repulsive. They miss the message in a similar way as the prosperity christians. I'm sure jesus sits around telepathically pumping you full of heroin or figuring out how to get you into that new Cadillac all the while ignoring the cries of the 35,000 children who starved to death today. It's just crazy, plain and simple.
This video is a bit on the weird side. And to think I wanted to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. Hmmm. The one girl who talks about not caring what people think of her, she seems ligate in what she's saying. The rest I'm not sure about. I'm a believer and it scares me even a bit.
Oh, fuck; why are the absolute worst of these crazy assholes always in FLORIDA! Goddamnit, I live like 10 miles from this looney bin! I love living this close to the beach and to Disney, but man! I think I'm gonna have to move!
There is no end to the douche-ballism. How are these people not embarassed?? It makes me embarassed for the human race watching these deluded assholes!
The only way to get healed is through Pastafarianism. Give your sickness to the Great Spaghetti Monster. It works for me. Since I became a believer I've never gotten sick. that's proof. Just believe it.
Yes its real people done have any idea of what revival really is and when it comes u think its a cult but we christians have the spirit and if it bears witness we know its of G-D use disernment
YES!!!!!!!!!!! YES YES! I EXPIRENCED THIS IN PASDENA CALIFORNIA AFTER SERVICE AT PASTPOR CHE ahn'S CHURCH @ HOURS LATER WE WERE STILL PROPHSYING AND SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT! GLORY TO G-D!
as a PK (preacher's kid) Church of Christ, no less (can you say Cult?, I knew that you could.) I was subjected to these types of meetings and they scared the holy hell out of me (which I guess was the point)..but what a travesty..I am so glad that my children will NEVER have to go through something like this! Keep these monsters away from our children!
Sounds dreadful to be "Blasted by the holy spirit." Alas, I have not. I guess I am an unworthy human. But then, scientific evidence will never be enough for you.
That is little more than mass hysteria. Think about how when you put humans together, and one begins to laugh uncontrollably, others will follow suit without knowing why. It would be interesting to wire these folks up and watch their brains light up like the fourth of July. It isn't the Holy Spirit. It is human chemistry combined with some manipulation and naive attendants who should pay more attention to science and history.
I'm personally familiar with this church. It is HIGHLY cultic. The leaders manipulate and control the lives of members, and their influence is very destructive. The church runs an unaccredited "prophet school" where they teach people to mimic the actions of the leaders. The culture is extremely inbred and self-centered. The entire Charismatic movement is based on feelings and emotions - it's amazing what adrenaline can do in group settings. Sad that the girl actually thinks she's healed.
@journeychurchnc For the record, i went to this school, i was there when this happened and that girl WAS healed...its sad to me that people want to criticize awesome things that the lord is doing simply because it doesnt look the way you think it should....
Makes me think of kids drinking ginger beer convincing themselves that that they're drunk! (Surrounded by some disturbingly dodgy and deluded old men)
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Splendid to see such a bunch of nutters in one place at the same time - is there a way to keep them in there permanently (or is it already an asylum)?
Does anyone know the real lord any more or are we supposed to worship this counterfiet who seems to like voodoo. This is a revival of base level hell.
I'm willing to bet the girl who claims her legs were healed would not release her medical history and be examined now to verify that they are straight.
People who are this religious scare the fuck out of me. They are so emotional that it clouds their mind and they become entirely impulsive. This is like how heathens are supposed to act. It's a fucking religious orgy.
Also isn't the "Morning star" one of lucifers monikers?
That's really frightening, especially when you think about what could happen to those kids when they come down off the peak of their delusion. What happens to the girl who thought she'd been healed, when her problems come right back? It really sickens me that anyone would lie so blatantly to people who are so innocent, or so desperate, that they'll believe anything they're told.
I wonder if the adrenaline has worn off now and the girl with the joint problems has realized that she wasn't actually healed. Moreso...I wonder what she makes of her return to her discomfort.
I don't know; that's a tough bill to fill. You know, these guys have all the same bullshit, but at a cheaper price. So, it's the poor man's scientology?
The guy that's been thorugh al lthe various movements reminds me of John Cleese in Life of Brian saying "you ARE the messiah and I should know - I've followed a few!".
lmao... Its called a spiritual euphoria and it has nothing to do with Christianity.... Am an atheist and it'll happen to me when I let it... The problem here is people thinking its cause by some transcendent being when its not...
Ah, religion. The opiate of the masses. I'd trust a person on LSD before I'd give cadence to any of these nut-jobs mentally working their crazy little heads into euphoria. The brain is a complex and powerful thing indeed.
I think you might be putting your finger on it. People seem to enjoy engaging in activities that alter their conscious and emotional states. They thrill themselves, humor themselves, drug themselves, intoxicate themselves, arouse themselves, charm themselves, and some even delude themselves.
This is what happens when you live in a society that's technologically advanced enough to allow people the recreation time to devote to this nonsense.
Actually, God wasn't present there, but the god I pray to, Steve McMillan, WAS there. Steve is responsible for every miracle that ever happened. All praise Steve!
I'd like to see if that girl had records of hip problems and if a scan can show them to actually be straight.
I mean can we send some doctors in there to observe and see if healings actually happen? Of course the presence of skeptics could cloud the holy god's powers could it not?
In all seriousness, if they are claiming these things are real then they should be verified.
That's all fine and great. So you should have no problem with some doctors going in there to see if there actually is healing, since it will only confirm your beliefs, right?
Nonono. Testing is of the Devil, didn't you know that?
Testing defeats the purpose for these nuts. They live in their own heads where happy stories take precedent over truth. I say let them be crazy, just don't vote or pollute the rest of society with their quackery.
These "miracles" only happen in the controlled conditions of these gatherings. There's never been any recorded instances of miracles like this happening anywhere within a half mile of a collection plate.
Then you should know that god killed about 1000 children in the past hour alone; he also bestowed his glorious blessing of cancer and aids on ten of thousands of people... praise him! right? .... get smart please...
Nope, that was all Steve, too. You're praying to the wrong omnipresent, omni-powerful deity. You don't want to end up in Steve's basement, do you? Terrible things happen in there. All the non-believers have to sit in the dark and listen to Christian rock CDs for eternity... Believe in Steve. He believes in you.
You can't just make claims and tell anecdotes with atheists. We actually think about what is true and what isn't. If you're going to make claims you need to back them up with hard evidence. Too many times I've seen a religious leaders do a parlor trick and not only does the person who saw it believe it to be a miracle they exaggerate the retelling of it. Not on purpose, but because they are so emotional.
well, the doctors said that my partner would be a "vegetable" for the rest of their life. God removed the clot from my partner's brain and the doctors could not explain it. Many Christians were praying for them.
I'll assume everything you're telling me is true for the sake of the argument. What evidence do you have that it was 'God' who removed it and the prayer that facilitated this?
The doctors not being able to explain doesn't automatically make it 'God' of course that's an argument from ignorance. If witches were doing incantations over them and this happened would you start believing in magic? Your argument only *sounds* convincing to those who already believe.
I'm glad your friend is okay, but to take an example from the Atheist Experience, if your friend had died, would that be evidence that god does not exist? Or is that evidence that whatever happens just happens?
2. No competent neurologist would predict total neurological impairment based on a thrombotic stroke (which is what you're describing).
3. There is not one shred of evidence that prayer affects the outcome of health crises. Anecdotal examples of "miracle" healings are confirmation bias - nothing more. You claim that FAILURES of prayer is "god's will".
1. prayer has never been shown to cause a differential effect on acute illnesses.
2. outcomes in stroke are extremely variable; and no competent neurologist would say otherwise.
3. medical therapy impacts stroke outcomes - not god.
4. theists attribute positive outcomes to god, and negative outcomes to god. That's having your cake and eating it, too. Classic confirmation and disconfirmation bias.
what pisses me off, is that if you point these people out to a "moderate" and say "this is why religion is dangerous" they'll say that religion is not dangerous, just these people. that these people are no representative of the majority and can't be linked in responsibility to the majority.
such bullshit. "moderates" say that religion should stay and that it will weed out its own problem groups... yet, in reality, they do NOTHING to squelch horrible collectives like the one in this video.
If this is the kind of mass religious hysteria (with 'visions', 'healings', 'communing with God' etc.), that modern-day people can induce through the power of repetitive ritualistic exercises and a good dose of peer-pressure, then you get an idea of what kind of stuff ancient nomadic goatherds would be seeing on dark and cold nights in the desert.
Amazing what happens when a mob mentality takes over in a fanatic religious gathering. Same symbiotic phenomena that causes sports team victory/loss riots, just on a much smaller scale.
How quickly a story can change in the telling. Already the preacher want's to change "mist" to "smoke". Give it a few more repetitions and 'They were engulfed in the cleansing FIRES of The LORD, SMOKE billowed all around but THEY did NOT BURN! Hallelujah!'
And all the rest, a giant touchy-feely, sleep deprivation, mass hysteria. They *yearn* to feel 'the touch of god' and each one out whacko's those they see around them.
clearly paint chips aren't a great alternative to a meatless diet.
AvEryBadApPLe 3 months ago in playlist Batshit Crazy Christians 3
A bunch of serotonin addicts... XD
Acrimonator 6 months ago
Christianity is faker than "pro" wrestling. This new wave of drugged out on jesus christians is very repulsive. They miss the message in a similar way as the prosperity christians. I'm sure jesus sits around telepathically pumping you full of heroin or figuring out how to get you into that new Cadillac all the while ignoring the cries of the 35,000 children who starved to death today. It's just crazy, plain and simple.
hapexamendar 7 months ago
Christianity is a HUGE problem. Religion is holding humanity back...
christianjerk666 9 months ago
This video is a bit on the weird side. And to think I wanted to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. Hmmm. The one girl who talks about not caring what people think of her, she seems ligate in what she's saying. The rest I'm not sure about. I'm a believer and it scares me even a bit.
yawritergrl 1 year ago
Oh, fuck; why are the absolute worst of these crazy assholes always in FLORIDA! Goddamnit, I live like 10 miles from this looney bin! I love living this close to the beach and to Disney, but man! I think I'm gonna have to move!
jerico641 1 year ago
There is no end to the douche-ballism. How are these people not embarassed?? It makes me embarassed for the human race watching these deluded assholes!
guitarbastrd 1 year ago
what a croc of crap,co dependent springs to mind!!!!
bondenigma 1 year ago
The only way to get healed is through Pastafarianism. Give your sickness to the Great Spaghetti Monster. It works for me. Since I became a believer I've never gotten sick. that's proof. Just believe it.
chikdada 1 year ago
Yes its real people done have any idea of what revival really is and when it comes u think its a cult but we christians have the spirit and if it bears witness we know its of G-D use disernment
hummbug1 1 year ago
YES!!!!!!!!!!! YES YES! I EXPIRENCED THIS IN PASDENA CALIFORNIA AFTER SERVICE AT PASTPOR CHE ahn'S CHURCH @ HOURS LATER WE WERE STILL PROPHSYING AND SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT! GLORY TO G-D!
hummbug1 1 year ago
i see ppl in Tribes in Africa do the samething and attribute it to juejue(the name of there crazy god)....so what does that mean
jasonoatmeal 1 year ago
It's like a church full of people with Gary Busey's brain in them.
watch:" /watch?v=G9pmuG_Wqz8 "
redsaint182 1 year ago
as a PK (preacher's kid) Church of Christ, no less (can you say Cult?, I knew that you could.) I was subjected to these types of meetings and they scared the holy hell out of me (which I guess was the point)..but what a travesty..I am so glad that my children will NEVER have to go through something like this! Keep these monsters away from our children!
fieryredterp 1 year ago
Sounds dreadful to be "Blasted by the holy spirit." Alas, I have not. I guess I am an unworthy human. But then, scientific evidence will never be enough for you.
cymbeline8 2 years ago
That is little more than mass hysteria. Think about how when you put humans together, and one begins to laugh uncontrollably, others will follow suit without knowing why. It would be interesting to wire these folks up and watch their brains light up like the fourth of July. It isn't the Holy Spirit. It is human chemistry combined with some manipulation and naive attendants who should pay more attention to science and history.
cymbeline8 2 years ago
youve never been blasted by the Holy Spirit then
soundzefe 2 years ago
The heathen blaspheme the Gospel because of us Christians (as long as we fail to hold fast to sound Biblical teaching). It's there in the Bible.
Christien842000 2 years ago
freaks. grateful dead shows are (were) far more entertaining.
WGS669 2 years ago
I'm personally familiar with this church. It is HIGHLY cultic. The leaders manipulate and control the lives of members, and their influence is very destructive. The church runs an unaccredited "prophet school" where they teach people to mimic the actions of the leaders. The culture is extremely inbred and self-centered. The entire Charismatic movement is based on feelings and emotions - it's amazing what adrenaline can do in group settings. Sad that the girl actually thinks she's healed.
journeychurchnc 2 years ago
Fascinating. There is a part of me that wants to attend one of these events - just to see what happens to *me*.
Just wondering - are there accredited prophet schools?
askegg 2 years ago
@journeychurchnc How do you know they manipulate their members? Have you attended this church?
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@journeychurchnc For the record, i went to this school, i was there when this happened and that girl WAS healed...its sad to me that people want to criticize awesome things that the lord is doing simply because it doesnt look the way you think it should....
xrockomo90x 1 year ago
@journeychurchnc What's awesome is that one of Satan's names is the Morning Star.
sukiari 11 months ago
Makes me think of kids drinking ginger beer convincing themselves that that they're drunk! (Surrounded by some disturbingly dodgy and deluded old men)
enhanceUK 2 years ago
SRSly, the girl at 4:45 looks like she's having an orgasm...
It's strange if you put it in context of what she said o__o
IRLpirate 2 years ago
Group hysteria is always a repugnant thing.
Stromatolite577 2 years ago 2
the Morningstar is gods most beautiful angel, Lucifer, who was cast out for his pride.
cruxbucket 2 years ago
that woman in the first 2 mins should not be allowed anywhere near kids, much less be a professional teacher!!
kenandkids 2 years ago 2
God's presence is awsome.
goodbrownies 2 years ago
Isn't god suppose to be everywhere?
askegg 2 years ago
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
goodbrownies 2 years ago
Wow. Bible verses. How original.
askegg 2 years ago
Just an ancient answer to an ancient question. I wasn't sure, at first, if you were being honest or sarcastic . Thanks for posting the video.
goodbrownies 2 years ago
Sounds/looks like an orgy in there! Except packed with crazy fundies.
patricknelson 2 years ago
Religion makes people stupid.
wintersfootsteps 2 years ago 4
I would say that group thinking(mob mentality) and viral behavior tends to make people stupid, religion is but one example of both working in tandem.
Tavereen 2 years ago
oh dear...
Ljunka 2 years ago
Splendid to see such a bunch of nutters in one place at the same time - is there a way to keep them in there permanently (or is it already an asylum)?
Peace.
klhcc 2 years ago
The all need a reality check before they spiral off the planet !
Rick needs the money !
anthfantastic 2 years ago
Does anyone know the real lord any more or are we supposed to worship this counterfiet who seems to like voodoo. This is a revival of base level hell.
anthfantastic 2 years ago
I want to strangle all of these people.
Krumbz2003 2 years ago
I'm willing to bet the girl who claims her legs were healed would not release her medical history and be examined now to verify that they are straight.
It's all a hoax.
Khayd4126 2 years ago
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BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
People who are this religious scare the fuck out of me. They are so emotional that it clouds their mind and they become entirely impulsive. This is like how heathens are supposed to act. It's a fucking religious orgy.
Also isn't the "Morning star" one of lucifers monikers?
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago 5
religious orgy just about sums it up
anthfantastic 2 years ago
More evidence for the evolution of stupidity...
Or the consumption of very large quantities of a hallucinogenic drug of some sort!
erehwon80 2 years ago
These people really need help, they are so scary, I would not leat them anywhere near my kids. What drugs are they taking?
scragger15 2 years ago
did they lace the welcome drink with DMT?
magrpe 2 years ago 2
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magrpe 2 years ago
Psychotic Christians. I swear, they'd start up the Knights Templar and the Crusades again if we didn't keep them in check.
PachucoDesigns 2 years ago
That's really frightening, especially when you think about what could happen to those kids when they come down off the peak of their delusion. What happens to the girl who thought she'd been healed, when her problems come right back? It really sickens me that anyone would lie so blatantly to people who are so innocent, or so desperate, that they'll believe anything they're told.
mswilliams79 2 years ago
There's a couple of the guy teenagers on here who look like they might love other dudes' penises a bit more than they love Jesus.
ohlordbabyjesus 2 years ago
Scary
HarshColby 2 years ago
They have given their church the same name as the devil himself. Perfect.
JRBendixen 2 years ago 2
Wow! Complete Nutjobs!
NinjaKPhoto 2 years ago
Education cures, they are hilariously delusional!
12TattooYou 2 years ago
So I take it pot has become legal in this part of America?
Chooky707 2 years ago
apparently. and it seems to have been laced with pcp as well.
ohlordbabyjesus 2 years ago
LSD?
Kyrothos 2 years ago
I wonder if the adrenaline has worn off now and the girl with the joint problems has realized that she wasn't actually healed. Moreso...I wonder what she makes of her return to her discomfort.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
Yes Pastor you have been through a lot of bowel movements too.
Atheeizm 2 years ago
at least the drummers sound pretty decent...
pissandwich 2 years ago
FUCKING FRIGHTENING
amsterstorm 2 years ago
Exactly! and this is why religion frightens me. Why can't these fucktards pray and find the cure for cancer?
Dwicker64 2 years ago 3
Haha, you gotta love it!!!
StrangeGlobal 2 years ago
You need a warning to take Gravol before watching those demented, deluded twits.
Puke!
I would not let any children near those nutters. Insanity is not healthy ;@
FreidenkerSpiegel 2 years ago
Makes $cientologists look sane!
4G3NTanon 2 years ago
I don't know; that's a tough bill to fill. You know, these guys have all the same bullshit, but at a cheaper price. So, it's the poor man's scientology?
ashman165 2 years ago
More Life of Brian...
"Master I was blind and now I am healed - aaaaggghhh".
geffel 2 years ago
Wow - group delusion. Mental, mental, mental.
The guy that's been thorugh al lthe various movements reminds me of John Cleese in Life of Brian saying "you ARE the messiah and I should know - I've followed a few!".
geffel 2 years ago
guy at 1:45 is like a Jesus hippie. He was at Jesus woodstock.
obsleet 2 years ago
lmao... Its called a spiritual euphoria and it has nothing to do with Christianity.... Am an atheist and it'll happen to me when I let it... The problem here is people thinking its cause by some transcendent being when its not...
AJBonkoski 2 years ago
There ALL sick!!! America, my country, is sick and the disease is religion!
julzabro 2 years ago
Dude these guys are on drugs.
HarakiriRamen 2 years ago
Ah, religion. The opiate of the masses. I'd trust a person on LSD before I'd give cadence to any of these nut-jobs mentally working their crazy little heads into euphoria. The brain is a complex and powerful thing indeed.
obsleet 2 years ago
God or positive thinking? Dissociative states of Consciousness?
UncomfortableSilence 2 years ago
lock em all up and trow away the key!
WTF america? here in the sane part of the world Europa we luck up the insane people....
Temuldjin 2 years ago
Welcome to the looney bin..
QuirksMode 2 years ago
Oh well..any excuse for a party.
shlarg 2 years ago
Lunatics, the lot of them. That one poor dude on the ground having a seizure and no one gives a shit.
EnervatedSociety 2 years ago
Brain chemistry and mass hysteria ô.o
Sad how people fool themselfs into believing what they experience has anything to do with supernatural stuff.
janeyanna 2 years ago
Omg they got kids there -.-
janeyanna 2 years ago
Mushrooms anyone? =)
PatrikH2 2 years ago
look like someone gave them all hash cakes then pumped NOS into the room
TheAutisticAtheist 2 years ago
Its a pretty well understood phenomena. Just look at Hitler rallies and those other mass gatherings.
Baldmother 2 years ago
Wow, bad acid trip...
HoleDweller 2 years ago
It looks and sounds like a huge weed-induced orgy. I'm an atheist myself but if every party out there ends up like this, sign me up!
StephanHeijl 2 years ago
I think you might be putting your finger on it. People seem to enjoy engaging in activities that alter their conscious and emotional states. They thrill themselves, humor themselves, drug themselves, intoxicate themselves, arouse themselves, charm themselves, and some even delude themselves.
;-)
antaresrichard 2 years ago 2
They should add Satan to the tag list.
1sistermercy 2 years ago
Ugh. Morons.
dannypantsgm 2 years ago
did any amputees get their limbs restored? Doubt it..
a300pilotster 2 years ago
lmfao at the guy on the floor at 5:30
AllBrainsNoSoul 2 years ago
funny how god needs to rent a hotel conference room to get the word out. what a moron.
a300pilotster 2 years ago
"The holy spirit is telling me that everyone needs to put a hundred dollars in the bucket, right now!"
Raptor302 2 years ago 3
man this is so funny these people need psychiatric help
these deluded muthafuckas
travis18haney 2 years ago 2
The Holy Spirit kept touching me. I ultimately had to get a restraining order.
mfaulkner12 2 years ago 6
thats fuckin funny
travis18haney 2 years ago
Craaaaaaazy
quickpua 2 years ago
Gotta love delusion. Sometimes it's funny stuff.
Centerman2k 2 years ago 3
Um, isn't Morning Star another name for Lucifer?
Isaiah 14.12
aartvegan 2 years ago 4
No, I think Lucifer means "made from light" or something along those lines.
Osias1983 2 years ago
The term Morning star is mentioned (in the bible) regrading Jesus and Lucifer. Kind of contradictory huh?
obsleet 2 years ago
This is just one giant case study aching to be done. The psychological effects... of religious bullshit
CriticalAtheist 2 years ago
LSD?
hpufo 2 years ago
This really shows how powerful the human mind and the subconscious desire to delude oneself is.
theradioschizo 2 years ago
God heals people in other countries , too.
God heals people out of love for them, not to make money.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Does God REGROW amputated limbs??
ProudHumanist 2 years ago 2
A room full of emotionally charged people feeding off each others emotions.
YogiToad 2 years ago
I would love to show up to one of these things.
Just 4 days until Ted Haggard's first home church service since all the shit went down and he got kicked out of the big time.
I will be there in attendance with my Sunday best on.
ogjimkenobi 2 years ago 3
This is what happens when you live in a society that's technologically advanced enough to allow people the recreation time to devote to this nonsense.
shade1978x 2 years ago
That thought crossed my mind too. Parasites.
askegg 2 years ago
Just think how far the human race could have gotten if all that energy was directed towards scientific advancement instead of munbo jumbo.
billythefifer 2 years ago
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Praise the Lord !
I think people are scared of emotion.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
That's all it is - emotion. No god, no supernatural, no ghosts, and no spirits holy or otherwise.
askegg 2 years ago
I strongly disagree.
God is present there.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
This is simply a claim, not evidence of anything.
askegg 2 years ago
Actually, God wasn't present there, but the god I pray to, Steve McMillan, WAS there. Steve is responsible for every miracle that ever happened. All praise Steve!
shade1978x 2 years ago 5
I'd like to see if that girl had records of hip problems and if a scan can show them to actually be straight.
I mean can we send some doctors in there to observe and see if healings actually happen? Of course the presence of skeptics could cloud the holy god's powers could it not?
In all seriousness, if they are claiming these things are real then they should be verified.
HonestDiscussioner 2 years ago 3
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God heals , according to His will. Nothing is too hard for God.
We should not be afraid to express emotion for God. He is our Saviour- He wants us to love Him with our hearts , minds, soul and strength.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
That's all fine and great. So you should have no problem with some doctors going in there to see if there actually is healing, since it will only confirm your beliefs, right?
HonestDiscussioner 2 years ago 3
Absolutely.
I have no problem with this, friend.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Nonono. Testing is of the Devil, didn't you know that?
Testing defeats the purpose for these nuts. They live in their own heads where happy stories take precedent over truth. I say let them be crazy, just don't vote or pollute the rest of society with their quackery.
shade1978x 2 years ago
They are not crazy.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Vicarious payment for non-existent transgressions is an amoral code. Saviour? Yeah right.
askegg 2 years ago
God / Jesus is the only Saviour.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Bold faced assertion.
askegg 2 years ago
Christian trolls are made of lulz and rainbows.
TheMysteriousCorner 2 years ago
Well, God DID make the internet. You knew that, right? He also made Macs and PCs. And keyboards.
shade1978x 2 years ago
These "miracles" only happen in the controlled conditions of these gatherings. There's never been any recorded instances of miracles like this happening anywhere within a half mile of a collection plate.
shade1978x 2 years ago
i Strongly disagree.
I know friends & family who have been healed by The Lord.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
No, they were healed by Steve. He doesn't know why you keep calling him Jesus or 'The Lord'. He goes by Steve.
I know a lot of people who were healed by medicine and doctors. Millions everyday, in fact. Never heard of anyone being healed by this 'Lord'.
shade1978x 2 years ago 2
God healed my partner from a coma, my cousin's leg, my Grandma's arm, our neighbour,etc.......
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Then you should know that god killed about 1000 children in the past hour alone; he also bestowed his glorious blessing of cancer and aids on ten of thousands of people... praise him! right? .... get smart please...
Falloutmoon 2 years ago 4
Nope, that was all Steve, too. You're praying to the wrong omnipresent, omni-powerful deity. You don't want to end up in Steve's basement, do you? Terrible things happen in there. All the non-believers have to sit in the dark and listen to Christian rock CDs for eternity... Believe in Steve. He believes in you.
shade1978x 2 years ago 2
You can't just make claims and tell anecdotes with atheists. We actually think about what is true and what isn't. If you're going to make claims you need to back them up with hard evidence. Too many times I've seen a religious leaders do a parlor trick and not only does the person who saw it believe it to be a miracle they exaggerate the retelling of it. Not on purpose, but because they are so emotional.
Evidence, not just claims.
CriticalAtheist 2 years ago 2
well, the doctors said that my partner would be a "vegetable" for the rest of their life. God removed the clot from my partner's brain and the doctors could not explain it. Many Christians were praying for them.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
I'll assume everything you're telling me is true for the sake of the argument. What evidence do you have that it was 'God' who removed it and the prayer that facilitated this?
The doctors not being able to explain doesn't automatically make it 'God' of course that's an argument from ignorance. If witches were doing incantations over them and this happened would you start believing in magic? Your argument only *sounds* convincing to those who already believe.
CriticalAtheist 2 years ago 2
There are many things that are unexplained.
Why would God favor your friend OVER the millions of OTHER needy??
ProudHumanist 2 years ago
I'm glad your friend is okay, but to take an example from the Atheist Experience, if your friend had died, would that be evidence that god does not exist? Or is that evidence that whatever happens just happens?
Raptor302 2 years ago 2
Baloney.
1. No doctor would say that ever.
2. No competent neurologist would predict total neurological impairment based on a thrombotic stroke (which is what you're describing).
3. There is not one shred of evidence that prayer affects the outcome of health crises. Anecdotal examples of "miracle" healings are confirmation bias - nothing more. You claim that FAILURES of prayer is "god's will".
What nonsense.
middlekk 2 years ago
The information i gave is correct.
You are implying that my partner is lying .
I have checked this and it is right.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
Yep. Lying for Jesus. A Christian tradition since the year 1.
middlekk 2 years ago
It is not lies.
JesusOurSalvation 2 years ago
So you say, and you may actually believe that.
Objectively, however, one can only say that
1. prayer has never been shown to cause a differential effect on acute illnesses.
2. outcomes in stroke are extremely variable; and no competent neurologist would say otherwise.
3. medical therapy impacts stroke outcomes - not god.
4. theists attribute positive outcomes to god, and negative outcomes to god. That's having your cake and eating it, too. Classic confirmation and disconfirmation bias.
middlekk 2 years ago
i beeni n church my whole life, i love jesus but realy these people are kinda scary
smashbeans 2 years ago
If they offer kool aid , don't drink it .
ComradeAgopian 2 years ago 2
Let them drink it first and then collect wallets.
HeroesofApostasy 2 years ago
do these same people freak in ER when people are saved by medical staff.
christinepeace 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but this makes me sick in the stomach.
Btw, why no limbs regrown, or a finger at least?
NikiDaDude 2 years ago 2
what pisses me off, is that if you point these people out to a "moderate" and say "this is why religion is dangerous" they'll say that religion is not dangerous, just these people. that these people are no representative of the majority and can't be linked in responsibility to the majority.
such bullshit. "moderates" say that religion should stay and that it will weed out its own problem groups... yet, in reality, they do NOTHING to squelch horrible collectives like the one in this video.
kukulza 2 years ago
Holy crap.
Lots and lots of "holy" crap.
I wonder if the adults realize how many of those kids are going to go out and get high or drunk as soon as they get the chance?
Bookwyrm86 2 years ago 2
made it to 2:26... then i wanted to crush my laptop... so i stopped.
need a motivational poster for this... it'd work great with the caption "fuck this shit" "nuke it from orbit; it's the only way to be sure"
kukulza 2 years ago
These people are fucking retarded.
FantasmaBAnco 2 years ago
It's a beautiful insight into group psychology.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
psychologists must shit themselves laughing at stuff like this...
i do, and i've only take an AP high school class for psychology.
kukulza 2 years ago
I find it more disturbing that funny. This is just a small group but imagine large crowds like these across the entire country, oh wait...
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
If this is the kind of mass religious hysteria (with 'visions', 'healings', 'communing with God' etc.), that modern-day people can induce through the power of repetitive ritualistic exercises and a good dose of peer-pressure, then you get an idea of what kind of stuff ancient nomadic goatherds would be seeing on dark and cold nights in the desert.
wimvandenberghe 2 years ago 2
Jungle hysteria. I agree with the first guy.
I don't have words to describe some of what I'm seeing...."
except B...S..t.
dtroy347 2 years ago
mass religious hysteria. what fun it is.
shadyvista 2 years ago 2
shadyvista beat me to it. Mass hysteria that is what this is. Crazy shit stuff.
limpnail 2 years ago
May I barf now?
cosmos11 2 years ago
This is insane!
This is madness!
No... Persian... THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!
Krumbz2003 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
those poor kids...
Brandt761 2 years ago 2
this is basically the same as a lsd party, cept substitute lsd with faith.
stick with lsd if you gotta do one though, just imo
Laartu 2 years ago
ya... LSD wears off over time and isn't nearly as addictive.
the negative side-affects are generally easier too.
kukulza 2 years ago
i can't watch this many idiots at once.
styrofoamheart 2 years ago
Amazing what happens when a mob mentality takes over in a fanatic religious gathering. Same symbiotic phenomena that causes sports team victory/loss riots, just on a much smaller scale.
raistlin072 2 years ago
This is why i have no doubt that the human species will destroy itself.
reasonnotgod 2 years ago
it sounds like a big orgasmic orgy in the background.
Nanee715 2 years ago
Pure nut jobs
Cade57 2 years ago
3:55 Yeah I'd be praying with my hands on her hips too! ;p
Must be nice to have a cult full of true believers.
Would I send my kids there, hell no, that's nothing but a cult meeting.
JBSauce 2 years ago
Skepticism is healthy people USE IT!
it bothers me So much that people can just LET themselves believe the craziest crap.
Persondudeguy 2 years ago
3:23 The guy is staring at the woman like, "I just wanna eat your face off right now."
FreePrometheus 2 years ago 2
I feel comforted by the idea that more intelligent people see these nut jobs for exactly what they really are. (nut jobs)
FreePrometheus 2 years ago
How quickly a story can change in the telling. Already the preacher want's to change "mist" to "smoke". Give it a few more repetitions and 'They were engulfed in the cleansing FIRES of The LORD, SMOKE billowed all around but THEY did NOT BURN! Hallelujah!'
And all the rest, a giant touchy-feely, sleep deprivation, mass hysteria. They *yearn* to feel 'the touch of god' and each one out whacko's those they see around them.
GeeKayKayGee 2 years ago
How the hell can one be so nonchalant about someone supposedly being raised from the dead?
Bunch of nutters.
ArrowDynamicsX 2 years ago
Ah, the power of collective effervescence.
sfb008008 2 years ago
Isn't "Morningstar" one of the things used to describe Satan in the bible?
Vidar33 2 years ago 4