thunderbolt is still not even out yet. the only thing you can use it for right now is for display. that why apply is pissing me off right now. you dont make something without having anything compatible with it!!!
@selayg90 based on experience. Seagate however invented the HDD for PCs. Seagate struggled for 4 to 5 yrs way back but now they are back in business.
@HelmetVanga i bought a seagate HDD 1TB and it was always noise and one day the usb broke and i couldnt do anyhting :C the usb disappeared into the drive , now i have Iomega :D and its a riot !! love it
These 3.5" drives are designed to complement the Mac mini and feature FireWire 800, eSATA, USB 2.0 connectivity. The miniStacks: * 500GB miniStack V3 (pictured) for $149.99 * 750GB miniStack V3 for $179.99 * 1TB miniStack V3 for $184.99 * 1.5TB miniStack V3 for $247.99 (was $250) * 2TB miniStack V3 for $349.99 (was $380) * see all discounted NewerTech miniStack V3 External Hard Drives
$150 - NewerTech miniStack V3 External Hard Drive deals.
Other World Computing slashed prices on several of its NewerTech miniStack V3 external hard drives. With $5.75 for shipping, that puts each at lowest-we've-seen prices.
anyone think that black automotive spray paint would mess it up? tape over the ports and internal bay, spray it black? hey, u think u could do that with a whole mac?
it's not the only 1 that has all the interface package. check the NexStar 3 (NST-360FBSU) it comes with usb2, esata and firewire800/400, + esata cable and adapter from 1394b to 1394a, u can also find it in black and blue. For the price it's even cheaper because it comes with esata cable. I was lost like u because i have pc and mac and i want esata and 1394b together.
Actually, even if it says that there is 1T in it, it will come with around 975GB, the companies always do stuff like that with their hardware. They never put the exact amount advertised.
Could be for anything, it's just like those old recordable cassettes where they have the tape in the begining that is unable to be recorded on.
And anyways, if the buffer wasn't even necessary, they are only taking away so much, and in the long run, it would cost them more to buffer every HD than to not.
They never give you the full amount because that is the amount of physical space you have after formatting. The other 25GB is reserved memory used for file allocation. In fact the manufacturer is sometimes modest about how much they give. Sometimes they give you more, but when the hard drive is formatted the reserve memory is not included.
Ah, our school textbook said that it was because of bad sectors in the HDD. Of course it isn't the latest issue, so it is stuck on past information I suppose.
Oh well, as long as the manufacturer has a good reason for it then it doesn't matter.
lol that makes me think of when i was in the pc business. i sold a pc to a guy with an 80GB drive. he came back saying it was 70 something gigs. i had to explain to him it formats to less than 80gigs. he still though i was trying to rip him off. lol.
from what I understand, that's because a kilobyte is actually 1,024 bytes, but most people just consider it 1,000 bytes. Same with Terabytes, they are technically supposed to be 1,099,511,627,776 bytes (i think), but they are interpreted as 1,000,000,000,000 bytes.
OtherWorld Computing sells some excellent enclosures as well. I have a "Mercury" enclosure w/ USB 2.0 FW400 & 800. Could've gotten eSATA, but wasn't SATA2 yet(like 3+ yrs ago)
I'm curious. You mentioned that it wasn't able to be plugged into multiple computers at the same time. If you can't do that then what is the point of multiple USB and FW connections?
To me, the point is it can be moved from one computer to another with different connection type. Also, you wont want to have multiple computers "physically" connected to it as you can share the drive on a home network for all computers to access.
This is a great enclosure except for one mayor flaw, it's fan is very noisy. This really defeats the purpose of using it with a Mac mini which is very quiet. If I could find a quiet version of this enclosure, I would definitely buy it.
OWC/macsales sells elite AL external thst is great,,it has FW400, 800, usb 2.0, esats. it has it all..not expensive, cheaper than the stack and smaller
For £7 on ebay I got an adaptor that is SATA/IDE/EIDE to USB. Cheap external hard drive! Windows recognises it as an extra drive. Power is via a separate adaptor. You can unplug and plug in in any order you want (apart from plug in power then data) without damage. The only obvious drawback is it doesn't enclose or cool the drive. Another plus is that it works with any SATA/IDE/EIDE device, i.e. hard drives and optical drives! I believe you can get firewire versions.
Also, far far more drives come in higher speeds now. 10,000 rpm drives are becoming far more common. The interface (SATA/PATA whatever) wasn't the bottleneck, it was the physical drive, the motor. You'll start to see the limitations of the IDE cabling on drives that fast, also SATA is more power efficient and the cables are much smaller.
USB doesnt transfer at 60mb/s, its closer to 48 (at the top end) and averages around 20 or so. eSATA is the same speed as the internal connection to your drive, it's exactly the same port just on the back of your tower so you can just plug in any SATA drive without having to open the case and screw it in and so on.
I went for a network enclosure that has 100mbit and usb 2.0. So I can back up my information quickly on the usb and then everyone on the network can access it at anytime at the same time via the network.
I was expecting him to cover a NAS system just as your talking but as usual he didn't go for wwhat i expected, he went with an enclosure? Strange man.
Firewire 400 or 800 is the way to go for pure performance. USB 2.0 is fine for budget minded people who don't need the extra speed. Anyways, FW800 is godly!
USB is just more common because it's supported by Microsoft, and Apple made FireWire so they try to downplay it. It also helps that MS own the majority share of the desktop market lol. But yes FireWire is far superior to USB!
usb 2.0 and the current not the new verion of firewire are almost identical, relativly no noticeable difference in speed at all. At leastr no consumer would ever truly be able to tell the difference between the two. Most computer manufacturtes still dont full support it on all their systems. E-SATA is where its at. Only an idiot would jump on the Firewire USB drama all over again. Thats like agp 4x vs agp 8x vs pciX 1.0 not even comparaeable the winner is the winner.
Man-i-cure? Whats that? Im 30 and I dont know what that is
mathew1929 1 month ago
Such a nerd
jefferygiraffe1 4 months ago
thunderbolt is still not even out yet. the only thing you can use it for right now is for display. that why apply is pissing me off right now. you dont make something without having anything compatible with it!!!
ayzou 9 months ago
@ayzou google for Promise Pegasus
MarkuzLee 6 months ago
what aboot thunderbolt?
Lorenzo763 9 months ago
@Lorenzo763 yeah how does he not know "aboot" thunderbolt? what is this, 2007? oh that's right, it is. dumbass...
wcbgn 9 months ago
ive got a IDE slim type HDD is there a enclosure for that ??
warsmith666 1 year ago
lmao naked hard drives xD
iExD 1 year ago
'i also keep naked cables in there...' lawl.
rhueoflandorin 1 year ago
you do rantble alot Prrillo.......... take a break get 8 hours in the sack stop downloading torrents ahhahaahaaaa
datarecoil 1 year ago
I was about to say the whole thing looks like a Mac Mini. XD
DeltaPhi79 1 year ago
Thinking about "Naked" Look at 5:49
Windows7025 1 year ago
And then at 6:01
Windows7025 1 year ago
USB 3.0 is FFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
rahmanroni 2 years ago
Theres no RJ-45 port!
cal920c 2 years ago
@cal920c there no RJ-232
thecreativeone31 2 years ago
RJ-232? I asked for RJ-45 which is eathernet so you can use this as a NAS.
cal920c 2 years ago
Besides who uses serial anymore?
cal920c 2 years ago
@thecreativeone31 True. There is RS-232 or Recomended Standard (RS) serial port.
HelmetVanga 1 year ago
western & seagate..
which one is better..?
selayg90 2 years ago
Western Digital have been going for longer as far as I know. So they have more experience and trust with consumers.
TheMassAnnoyance 2 years ago
@selayg90 wd
thecreativeone31 2 years ago
@selayg90 based on experience. Seagate however invented the HDD for PCs. Seagate struggled for 4 to 5 yrs way back but now they are back in business.
HelmetVanga 2 years ago
@HelmetVanga i bought a seagate HDD 1TB and it was always noise and one day the usb broke and i couldnt do anyhting :C the usb disappeared into the drive , now i have Iomega :D and its a riot !! love it
frikki500 1 year ago
These 3.5" drives are designed to complement the Mac mini and feature FireWire 800, eSATA, USB 2.0 connectivity. The miniStacks: * 500GB miniStack V3 (pictured) for $149.99 * 750GB miniStack V3 for $179.99 * 1TB miniStack V3 for $184.99 * 1.5TB miniStack V3 for $247.99 (was $250) * 2TB miniStack V3 for $349.99 (was $380) * see all discounted NewerTech miniStack V3 External Hard Drives
waiatatube 2 years ago
$150 - NewerTech miniStack V3 External Hard Drive deals.
Other World Computing slashed prices on several of its NewerTech miniStack V3 external hard drives. With $5.75 for shipping, that puts each at lowest-we've-seen prices.
waiatatube 2 years ago
its missing an ethernet port
phamtruax 2 years ago 2
Now it just needs to support hdmi for media out
lastxp 2 years ago
anyone think that black automotive spray paint would mess it up? tape over the ports and internal bay, spray it black? hey, u think u could do that with a whole mac?
Mr937595 2 years ago
Good practical info. Thanx
elizabethpowell 2 years ago
it's not the only 1 that has all the interface package. check the NexStar 3 (NST-360FBSU) it comes with usb2, esata and firewire800/400, + esata cable and adapter from 1394b to 1394a, u can also find it in black and blue. For the price it's even cheaper because it comes with esata cable. I was lost like u because i have pc and mac and i want esata and 1394b together.
KalosKage 2 years ago
..shhhhh
oldschooltoledo 2 years ago
LOL I should have seen this video about 3 weeks ago, I brought a func, but crappy USB HD Enclsr SATA.
unytcommsys 2 years ago
1000 GB
vampire5003 2 years ago
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A Terabyte (TB) is 1024 Gigabytes (GB).
wasd591 2 years ago
whats a terabyte? ( 2:02 ) pease answer
computerguy307 2 years ago
A terabyte (1TB) is 1000 GB! thats over like a billion bytes! It's a good amount of space
grimAXY 2 years ago
1000 gigabytes
hahhahhahhahhahh 2 years ago
A Terabyte (TB) is 1024 Gigabytes (GB).
wasd591 2 years ago
Yes in technical terms but if you buy a computer with 1TB you only get 1000GB
ch40t1cM0DdEr 2 years ago
Actually, even if it says that there is 1T in it, it will come with around 975GB, the companies always do stuff like that with their hardware. They never put the exact amount advertised.
I guess it's to reduce manufacturing costs?
mankyman6 2 years ago
So you buy a 15GB Hard Drive and get 10GB
That Sucks
bluedove2897 2 years ago
Not 10GB, more like 14.3 or 13.3. It won't go as low as 10GB. :P
mankyman6 2 years ago
They always have a buffer on their hard disks that cannot be written on.
nairb2693 2 years ago
AH, but what is the buffer for?
mankyman6 2 years ago
Could be for anything, it's just like those old recordable cassettes where they have the tape in the begining that is unable to be recorded on.
And anyways, if the buffer wasn't even necessary, they are only taking away so much, and in the long run, it would cost them more to buffer every HD than to not.
nairb2693 2 years ago
They never give you the full amount because that is the amount of physical space you have after formatting. The other 25GB is reserved memory used for file allocation. In fact the manufacturer is sometimes modest about how much they give. Sometimes they give you more, but when the hard drive is formatted the reserve memory is not included.
Nadine375 2 years ago
Ah, our school textbook said that it was because of bad sectors in the HDD. Of course it isn't the latest issue, so it is stuck on past information I suppose.
Oh well, as long as the manufacturer has a good reason for it then it doesn't matter.
mankyman6 2 years ago
lol that makes me think of when i was in the pc business. i sold a pc to a guy with an 80GB drive. he came back saying it was 70 something gigs. i had to explain to him it formats to less than 80gigs. he still though i was trying to rip him off. lol.
misterchuckle 2 years ago
from what I understand, that's because a kilobyte is actually 1,024 bytes, but most people just consider it 1,000 bytes. Same with Terabytes, they are technically supposed to be 1,099,511,627,776 bytes (i think), but they are interpreted as 1,000,000,000,000 bytes.
Or I could be completely wrong, I dunno.
mike123saf 2 years ago
1000 GB
vampire5003 2 years ago
can i have one? im trying to build a computer and dont have much money :P
oldschooltoledo 2 years ago
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SATA = S=Stupid A=Anoying T=turd A=Ass wipe lol ahahahahaha jk chris anyway its a cool info lool
unholyblackheart 2 years ago
no ethernet port? lame :o
brianchris4 3 years ago
cuz of chris i am going to get one when i get my imac
gundambob646 3 years ago
Hard Drive having you know what i mean
CariagaXIII 3 years ago
lol mac
Odenkay 3 years ago
you look like the guy from trophic thunder
psycho6754 3 years ago
steve coogan?
joehassmallarms 3 years ago
Who is this rambling man?
eggg102 3 years ago
OtherWorld Computing sells some excellent enclosures as well. I have a "Mercury" enclosure w/ USB 2.0 FW400 & 800. Could've gotten eSATA, but wasn't SATA2 yet(like 3+ yrs ago)
Teknodaddy 3 years ago
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YOU SUCK DICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
emmab2006 3 years ago
I'm curious. You mentioned that it wasn't able to be plugged into multiple computers at the same time. If you can't do that then what is the point of multiple USB and FW connections?
OwDaddyItHurts 3 years ago
To me, the point is it can be moved from one computer to another with different connection type. Also, you wont want to have multiple computers "physically" connected to it as you can share the drive on a home network for all computers to access.
theycallmemrglass 3 years ago
I chose a macpower over this ..its missing the usb bus but i didnt need that and the build and aethetics appealed to me. i.e.
It goes with my mbp and lian-li aluminum case perfectly.
Peace
Brian
sacredgeometry 3 years ago
Meh get the Antec MX-1 for cheaper.
theSCgosu 3 years ago
drobo if u have alota drives
smartpartsionlover 3 years ago
This is a great enclosure except for one mayor flaw, it's fan is very noisy. This really defeats the purpose of using it with a Mac mini which is very quiet. If I could find a quiet version of this enclosure, I would definitely buy it.
elsamoore 3 years ago
thats not activly cooled the antec mx1 is way better in my opion keeps my seagate 500 sata300 at 30 to 35 degrees.c
asus3571 3 years ago
this isnt PC compatible rite?
PSPSlimLover 3 years ago
Actually there is one socket missing..an Ethernet port. A friend of mine bought a cheap enclosure that had one of those on the back...handy or what?
macutmore 4 years ago
what speed is it? 7200 rpm?
Raybee 4 years ago
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Firewire is FAIL
halonut558 4 years ago
agree
mrapp718 4 years ago
I like it but there's one critical design flaw.
It doesn't glow.
leodime 4 years ago
is there any TRANSPARENT eSata hdd enclosure out there??!
djaz007 4 years ago
no bcz clear plastic does not do a good job with the heat. thats why aluminum is best. (or copper, but u wont find any of those)
MikSane 4 years ago
OWC/macsales sells elite AL external thst is great,,it has FW400, 800, usb 2.0, esats. it has it all..not expensive, cheaper than the stack and smaller
FinalCutStudioSchool 4 years ago
for normal user u dont need this....eSATA and a fan and thats all u need
rai112676 4 years ago
For £7 on ebay I got an adaptor that is SATA/IDE/EIDE to USB. Cheap external hard drive! Windows recognises it as an extra drive. Power is via a separate adaptor. You can unplug and plug in in any order you want (apart from plug in power then data) without damage. The only obvious drawback is it doesn't enclose or cool the drive. Another plus is that it works with any SATA/IDE/EIDE device, i.e. hard drives and optical drives! I believe you can get firewire versions.
jonnyk5614 4 years ago
Thank you for the advice, I'm shopping around for an enclosure and this vid was very useful!
roleat 4 years ago
I had no idea you could insert an internal hard drive into a casing that allows it to be external... good to know!
RPGoof 4 years ago
i thought sata was pronouced with a long "a" sound.
Gmc42082 4 years ago 2
so did i...
Contw2 4 years ago
i thought it was like "s" - "ar" - "ta" just without the r so its like "a house".
moosicsmurfnz 4 years ago
wow looks sweet. BTW I checked the chat out didn't care for it much. Way to many people in there. Hard to get a word in. but eh that is just me.
lilpimp84 4 years ago
Also, far far more drives come in higher speeds now. 10,000 rpm drives are becoming far more common. The interface (SATA/PATA whatever) wasn't the bottleneck, it was the physical drive, the motor. You'll start to see the limitations of the IDE cabling on drives that fast, also SATA is more power efficient and the cables are much smaller.
TalesOfWar 4 years ago
higher RPMs just speed up the seek time of the drive, if ya really want a fast drive, get 2 identical hard drives and set them up in a
raid 0 config,i get transfer rates from 500-1100MB/s depending on what type of read/write operation going on.
Gmc42082 4 years ago
USB doesnt transfer at 60mb/s, its closer to 48 (at the top end) and averages around 20 or so. eSATA is the same speed as the internal connection to your drive, it's exactly the same port just on the back of your tower so you can just plug in any SATA drive without having to open the case and screw it in and so on.
TalesOfWar 4 years ago
my drive is 3 times faster in eSata than in usb
Shatonmedeek 4 years ago
I'm getting a newer technology dual 1.4ghz processor for my g4, so they're obviously mac people.
Brian7490 4 years ago
eSATA ftw!
RemzinCrizz 4 years ago
Pretty! That will look good with a nice silver Mac! I should have looked into that before I got my WD 1TB. Ah well. =)
IceflowStudios 4 years ago
I went for a network enclosure that has 100mbit and usb 2.0. So I can back up my information quickly on the usb and then everyone on the network can access it at anytime at the same time via the network.
CyberneticSasquatch 4 years ago
I was expecting him to cover a NAS system just as your talking but as usual he didn't go for wwhat i expected, he went with an enclosure? Strange man.
IKLIPTIC 4 years ago
Yeah he just wants a uber huge Jump Drive.
CyberneticSasquatch 4 years ago 2
Chris!!! If you a spare serial-ata 2.5 laptop drive, I WANT IT! bigger than 120GB because thats what I already have and it is nearing it's limit.
applenrd 4 years ago
Firewire 400 or 800 is the way to go for pure performance. USB 2.0 is fine for budget minded people who don't need the extra speed. Anyways, FW800 is godly!
kevnca 4 years ago
firewire is to get to 1.4gbp/s or something right? saw it on google somewhere while wasting time at work. well, we'll see in February
jerrry13157 4 years ago
USB is just more common because it's supported by Microsoft, and Apple made FireWire so they try to downplay it. It also helps that MS own the majority share of the desktop market lol. But yes FireWire is far superior to USB!
TalesOfWar 4 years ago
usb 2.0 and the current not the new verion of firewire are almost identical, relativly no noticeable difference in speed at all. At leastr no consumer would ever truly be able to tell the difference between the two. Most computer manufacturtes still dont full support it on all their systems. E-SATA is where its at. Only an idiot would jump on the Firewire USB drama all over again. Thats like agp 4x vs agp 8x vs pciX 1.0 not even comparaeable the winner is the winner.
IKLIPTIC 4 years ago