ok people calm down, to the average person who doesnt know anything about martial arts they will just label it as karate since its the most commercial/popular term , it doesnt mean you have to insult the person they just dont know any better, i thought i heard somewhere that martial artist's are suppose to be humble and respectable? next time just politely inform the person and get that bug out your ass @wasssuuuppp420
yes it is self defense but if you want to learn proper wing chun go to a school not learn of some video made by a guy getting off on showing how good he is you dont see my grandmaster doing this
yes it is self defense but if you want to learn proper wing chun go to a school not learn of somevideo made by a guy getting off on showing how good he is you dont see my grandmaster doing this
this is the way Wing Tsun should be trained. Fighting is serious. Almost ALL the fighting videos on Youtube are crap. This is for self DEFENSE. Thanks for posting it!
just to make things straight because most ppl here looks like enjoying that subject...wing tsun is a king of kung fu, not karate because karate is 50% legs 50% hands while kung fu ( wing tsun ) is like 75% hands and 25% legs
It's gonna look really bad for you in court when the witness says; " yes, your honor, I saw the kungfu guy repeatedly hit the other man even after he was on the ground, helpless.
You WC guys are too in love with your silly thousand hit chain punches.
@demoskunk wt is designed with multiple opponents in mind always when this is taken n2 context think about if u have atakers in street assault ( robbery,rape,attempting 2 murder u,ect. when multiple opponents are closeing in this is exactly the kind of mentality u will need &crave these types of skillsets i have had the pleasure of dealing w/ streethugs in this exact manner .& yes im soooo in luv w/ my chain punching streetblast . had me a real good tym listening 2 his cheekbones sound gravelly
Decent but training like that you wont have anyone to train with you after while GOTTA be aggressive Ive left guys bloody and had blood in my mouth a night or 2 but gotdamn oboy goes ape shit.
u just gotta think about what kind of a woman the inventor was. She must be freaking hot cuz hot women gotta be violence. beside that this guy has great control
anyways... it started off from a temple combining the crane style and snake style together to fight the army... but before they compeleted the combination, the army attacked the temple and the temple was wiped out, a surviving nun continued the combination and made wing chun
No, this is master Gutierrez, LeungTing lineage but with his tough interpretation... Gutierrez is probably one of the best when it comes to ... let the hands do the talking :)
EWTO ist die europäische Wing Tsun Organisation... es gibt halt vereine die das unterrichten und das ist der größte. aber meines erachtens der letzte scheiß xD die sind nur auf geld aus -.- guck dir genau an wo du das machst, aber die sache ansich kann ich nur empfehlen ;) nur halt ewto... weiß nicht, eher nicht empfehlenswert xD
have you ever been to an live show if you go and try to attack for exampel Emin Boztepe he could kill you within seconds if you see real fights it looks quiet like this with the difference its not that aggressiv cause its training...^^ other wise you wont find many opontes capable of contering your attacks...
like mma matters in terms of real combat man. its a sport with rules and boundaries. Any decent UFC fighter fought like that that in the streets, they would be paste, but most of them know the difference between ring and real combat. you know who a lot of your UFC guys adore man? Bruce Lee. Not trying to rag just enlighten. Think on that.
@jusie1270 lol i´ve never heard such an bullshit like this. Win Chun is a kind of wushu that is known as kung fu in the western. get more informations bout the thangs you talk about.
karate ........ it just shows that you have no idea of what you're talking about, which is fine because most critics on youtube dont. You're all masters of keyboard-fu!
@kinstar I'm saying that its NOT karate, I was referring to another comment. I can see how you'd could misread my post when read out of context. Wing tsun's a very good style.
theres a vast assortment of punches. nothing can really make a punch look "elegant". taekwondo practitioners use those stupid jumping spinning flying kicks to showcase. its not like anyone would use that in a real life situation..
except it was useful for them in the period.. As the Koreans could kick Japanese invaders off their horses with those "elegant" "showcase" spinning kicks with much efficiency.
History shapes the systems people use.
TaeKwonDo historically goes under different battlefield assumptions.
.....
Different techniques for different situations, A willingness and ability to change between them without holding favorites, Sounds like WingTsun principles to me. But what do i know, I'm not master.
that first comment makes a good point. yeah about taekwondo, ive been doing it for 17 years now.. i dont believe in those jumping kicks for two reasons. it may have been affective and useful back then, but today's world is a whole new beast. secondly, if your not naturally built light on your feet, its VERY discouraging not being able to do them.. as well as killer on your knees.
well all this depends on the level of your martial art skills, I think you have to be very very skilled to use these kicks as useful as its ment to be in a real fight.. But I think most of these martial arts in the western world is alot of showcase today.. I don't know, I've tried taekwondo, shaolin kung fu, and Wing Tsung, and when I fight for real I use my Wing Tsun Only, dosn't look good but its effective
You guys have made me smile, you're educated in what you're talking about and not taking it too seriously. It's true that TKD is too often taught purely as sport, but it's also true that it was made as an effective style. Also, I need to make a shirt now that says "I kicked a Samurai off his horse and all I got was this stupid t-shirt and a sore foot."
You've posted this twice now on two WC vids. You seem to be a MMA fanboy, convinced that only MMA works or is effective.
As for your tired, predictable UFC post, you could argue that no WC practitioner has participated since the early days, when pretty much all fighters were of an amateur nature. Wing Chun can be incredibly effective in a real life engagement, I have, unfortunately used it to defend myself, very successfully.
Is WC the ultimate? No it's why I cross train grappling too.
Maybe one day, this guys will understand that THIS IS NOT WORKING WITH A REAL FIGHTER, not cooperative and able to perform REAL TAKEDOWNS, throw REAL PUNCHES and knees.
THE DAY THEY WILL SHOW ME A VIDEO OF ONE OF THIS SUPPOSED "MASTER" again somebody really tough (Silva, Rutten, Shamrock, Fedor, Lee Morrison...) I'll get back all my words.
I saw tons of video supposed to be WT vs MMA and they are ridiculos.
And I will saw one Fight on the Street with that MMA guys when no Referee is who said no punch in eyes , breast or dick! And you will see how good they are when no referee is because street is street anfd no cage with rules!
Jesus you're a retard. I'm getting exceedingly bored and intolerant of this kind of shit. Just because the best fighters in the world don't use these techniques doesn't mean these techniques are useless. Look at REALITY for a second. These techniques and many other oriental ones, WERE USED AGAINST ARMIES THAT HAD PEOPLE WITH FUCKING SWORDS! I'd like to see Shamrock take on a fucking samurai with a sword... NO? Because kung fu practitioners did! Fucking moron...
kung fu in general. If a martial artist can't use kung fu, that's because he's not good enough to. Bad workers blame their tools. The tools have been proven in mass battles, against opponenets with assorted weaponry and armor, the tools work fine. hence, it's the worker who can't use them.
At this point I must apologize. Taken by the rush I didn't explained myself correctly.
I am not saying that wing Tsun or Kung Fu are not effective in fighting. Believe me or not, I practised 4 years of wing tsun when I was younger. What I want to say is that if somebody trains against a partially cooperative opponent, not using full force and speed, then TO ME that training is useless and can create a false sense of confidence. I say this because I tried on my skin, and it wasn't funny.
Now, when I train, independently by the style or system I'm using, I train more realistic as possible, and I've seen great improvements in my skills. Again, IMHO, despite the fact that Gutierrez is famous and surely strong, in this video I don't see REAL fighting training. And I know that wing tsun can be MUCH better than this.
I train WT, and even in my own gym.. I'm faced with guys and girls who don't take their training seriously.. Who aren't really there to learn how to defend themselves, and don't realize the dangers of false confidence.
I feel like that isn't just a WT thing, as when I train Muay Thai and JiuJutsu, it was a similar thing.. Only a few people really wanted to learn, who really cared about what works.. what's practical.
Fast hands is important, but quickness is even more so especially quickness of mind, so you can assess the scenario in a moment, and react accordingly and so you can improvise the moves, being that in a real fight you won't be doing specific pre-sequenced forms. What made Lee the best is precisely that he took this stuff and applied it in real street fights and challenge matches, not just in the ring against sport martial artists where many moves couldn't be used then either.
I've never seen this applied against a resisting opponent. Until I see it in a real fight against a kick boxer, boxer or MMA guy, it's not impressive.
Your not likely to see it unless you're in it. It happens too quick and is an effective way to end a fight quick.. no nonense. I think German special forces (?) use this type of combat.
You don't really think that everyone at the street uses kickboxing, boxing or mma, do you? Otherwise you should widen your view... Wing Chun isn't for sports, as kickboxin' and boxin' and maybe some variations of mma are... You could even kill people with it(Wing chun)... Not that I recommend it.
Once again. Kung Fu was used against armies of people, and often massive groups of armed bandits, the proof of that is in the temples and in Chinese history. I should say, until an MMA guy or Boxer beats a heavily armed group of medieval bandits, I'm not impressed. -bows-
postapolcalyptic chase, you do realize that most people in those times were untrained, even if the kung fu masters in china fought eatch other using the same general theory and method,
I feel more impressed by a Judoka since he's trained against a non-cooperative opponent. This video is simulation, no prove it really works. Maybe but not sure.
Hi, i'm spanish. This video is a demostration of what u can do with WT. The sifu (master) of the video is Victor Gutierrez... One of the most important sifu's in Spain.
It seems to me that the only real thing you need to be good at Wing Tsun is fast hands. Is this right? I was looking for something to complement my Bujinkan Training, is there more to it that I'm missing??
Is the sticky hands thingo the best part of Wing Tsun
Wing Tsun is probably the most versatile of martial arts. JJ is used to bring people down and fight them there. Wing Tsun is still largely a striking style.
Ju-Jutsu is NOT Judo. Judo is "Ground-Gight". Ju-Jutsu is more like a "Jack-of-all-Trades". I know not a single WT-Fighter who dares to visit our training, although we invited them once. Here in Germany, WTlers tend to think to be invincible. If you "manage" to them they say "I let you win" or something like that.
I'm pretty sure that "Judo is "Ground-Gight"" When Judo means, the way of flexibility or passivity.
I have very high regard for the ju-jutsu system, even though i train WT.
WingTsun is versatile, because we can use "ju-jutsu techniques" but still be doing WingTsun.. it's not the techniques what soever that motivates us. It is the principles of economy of motion and efficiency, not resisting so as to get taken advantage, and above all, the ability to change to fit the changing situations.
its nice when you read a comment from someone who knows what theyre talking about, too many people thing wc is crap cos its not on mma, i like reading about people who know the economy of motion and centre line theory etc thank you
no, people think wing chun sucks cuz they have common sense and are able to compare Martial arts to eatch other....
get a grip dude, listen to your self,
you have never sparred a pro boxer using wing chun in your life!. yet I am very suprised on how famous wing chun is even though it is known to not work on a good trained fighter, it only works on untrained fighters, LOL, seriously....try to at least spar a pro boxer, k?
Good point. I think it gained popularity because of Bruce Lee, but even Bruce Lee moved away from wing chun and gravitated more towards boxing because he realized his wing chun was not that practical
He didn't like the fixed positions in wing chun, and he found them to be not so useful in actual combat. Hence, in the tao of jeet kune do, you see Bruce emphasize boxing strategies as a means for effective attack and defense, not wing chun.
Bruce lee learned other martial arts, because his sifu yip man did't want to train him after he went to USA. Bruce never learned the higher forms. And two years of Wing Tsun training is not enough to be a Kung Fu master or in any martial art. But Bruce Lee is a legend and wrote many books about the human body and effective training, and so he gained so much speed and power. & boxer do not kick, use elbows or any other body parts... they only fight with fists, what I think is a big disadvantage.
Ive done Muay Thai for 3 years and wing chun for 2 years...and i use wing chun....i have fought three Muay Thai Professionals and 2 boxers using wing chun.....and guess what
i only lost one fight to one of the Muay Thai guys......WIng Chun is very effective if you understand it....like the guy in this video
But you winning the fight doesnt give wing chun credibility, it could mean that the muay thai guy that you fought was not as well trained as you are. Regarding your response to my earlier comment, Bruce Lee's dream was to be the world's greatest martial artist. It was because of his pursuit of that dream that led him to create Jeet Kune Do. He found some flaws in wing chun and modified the stance to a more jeet kune do lead stance.
The flaw was he never finished wing chun. There are 3 systems in wing chun he only learned the 1st before he left. Yip Man senior students always asked him why did he care so much about bruce he can't fight.
Bruce left before he finished the system thats why he didn't like it. Also He became famous for winning every fight with only the 1st system and 90% of Jeet Kune Do is the 1st system of wing chun and 10% of other stuff he found that worked.
No doubt he natural talent. The problem is Bruce Lee was a natural. Jeet Kune Do has never worked for anyone but Bruce who else has used JKD to reach what bruce did. It wasn't the style it was Bruce.
Well I heared that Emin Botztepe won a fight against the guy which was called the best fighter of the World by bruce Lee. and i doubt that you really heared bluebelts won a fight against a practician
hmmm... nothing ju-jutsu doens't have, but we can controll people without beating them down. and bring them down without going AGAINST their moving direction...
I think thats the stupidest thing you could put on a wing chun video. The whole concept of wing chun is to not fight force with force. Juijitsu extends from wing chuns principals and emphasises the ground as your "home". Thats the only difference. Know your facts before you speak.
Pesante, slappare a occhi bendati D:
Mike14982 1 month ago
1:21 boooommmmmmmmmmm!
scherz91 2 months ago
151 people belive it will look like this when you fight an opponent on the street.
SeventhRoar666 4 months ago 2
WTF 1:14 ?!
oOBenjeeOo 5 months ago
ok people calm down, to the average person who doesnt know anything about martial arts they will just label it as karate since its the most commercial/popular term , it doesnt mean you have to insult the person they just dont know any better, i thought i heard somewhere that martial artist's are suppose to be humble and respectable? next time just politely inform the person and get that bug out your ass @wasssuuuppp420
THEpillows100 5 months ago 2
das war nichts
mrwashroom 5 months ago
the guy was on ninja warrior :D
Lukaa51 6 months ago
nest video i ever have seen od REAL self defense!
xXTheGameKlngXx 11 months ago
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yes it is self defense but if you want to learn proper wing chun go to a school not learn of some video made by a guy getting off on showing how good he is you dont see my grandmaster doing this
luke3996 11 months ago
yes it is self defense but if you want to learn proper wing chun go to a school not learn of somevideo made by a guy getting off on showing how good he is you dont see my grandmaster doing this
luke3996 11 months ago
awesome...this ius a self defence wich can be done in real fights sry for my english ^^
xXTheGameKlngXx 11 months ago
this is the way Wing Tsun should be trained. Fighting is serious. Almost ALL the fighting videos on Youtube are crap. This is for self DEFENSE. Thanks for posting it!
deepwaters6969 11 months ago
just to make things straight because most ppl here looks like enjoying that subject...wing tsun is a king of kung fu, not karate because karate is 50% legs 50% hands while kung fu ( wing tsun ) is like 75% hands and 25% legs
Alesandros356 1 year ago
dragon ball :D
SuperBastardkiller 1 year ago
FINISH HIM, FATALITY.
JarredD798HungMan1 1 year ago
i feel its like AIKIDO but in different way
anank82 1 year ago
sounds like mortal combat
germanathenefanclub 1 year ago
It's gonna look really bad for you in court when the witness says; " yes, your honor, I saw the kungfu guy repeatedly hit the other man even after he was on the ground, helpless.
You WC guys are too in love with your silly thousand hit chain punches.
demoskunk 1 year ago
@demoskunk wt is designed with multiple opponents in mind always when this is taken n2 context think about if u have atakers in street assault ( robbery,rape,attempting 2 murder u,ect. when multiple opponents are closeing in this is exactly the kind of mentality u will need &crave these types of skillsets i have had the pleasure of dealing w/ streethugs in this exact manner .& yes im soooo in luv w/ my chain punching streetblast . had me a real good tym listening 2 his cheekbones sound gravelly
stovall1231 5 months ago
richtig geil
krokodilparadies 1 year ago
I hate when I see teachers who take it too serious in sparring... I mean, they're masters goddamn..
Tebra991 1 year ago 4
I have a feeling this guys doesnt keep friends for long lol.
didgemonster 1 year ago
If that was wing chun.. i want to learn it.
johnsonyao951 1 year ago
@johnsonyao951
Im doing it ;) and thats real ^^
but he is a very hardcore fighter ^^ normaly we just go to defend as much as we must ^^ so its not for attacking xD
TheRazoth 1 year ago
hahahaha fail music and sound..........guys this is wing tsun....not wing chun....they are different styles
kladitis 1 year ago
lat sao / best form of wt !
WToo7 1 year ago
the sound effects were placed to cover and mask the screaming,whimpering, and cries his opponents were making as he bludgeoned them to death
Eso1 1 year ago
1:16 hate to have him as my sifu... abit of sparring and ur arm is snapped
kingtipz 1 year ago
Those sound effects would make any late 80's to early 90's asian martial arts sound director have a wet dream.
goshops 1 year ago
whats the name of the song ?
tonydamaga 1 year ago
@tonydamaga Carl Orff - Carmina Burana
oOholyshitOo 1 year ago
Finally some proper Wing Tsun ont he net..
Victory020791 1 year ago 2
Fuckin Hell
Austernschluerfer 2 years ago
Great! But the sounds are annoying-.-
Aphrophis 2 years ago
Decent but training like that you wont have anyone to train with you after while GOTTA be aggressive Ive left guys bloody and had blood in my mouth a night or 2 but gotdamn oboy goes ape shit.
StraightCashTV 2 years ago
This demonstration is one of the most realistic that I've seen on internet.
thks master Gutierrez
SpookyFight 2 years ago
wtf!!! crazy!!
loghar 2 years ago
This fellow isn't near the best...
AngelofHat 2 years ago
wow wow wow!
Great to see Many thanks for posting!
Pileofdiscs 2 years ago
u just gotta think about what kind of a woman the inventor was. She must be freaking hot cuz hot women gotta be violence. beside that this guy has great control
politeasskicker 2 years ago
it was a nun.... LOL hot nun ftw?
anyways... it started off from a temple combining the crane style and snake style together to fight the army... but before they compeleted the combination, the army attacked the temple and the temple was wiped out, a surviving nun continued the combination and made wing chun
BerserkN00b 2 years ago
0:45-46 wow
Zegronegro 2 years ago
fantastic!! is this whats taught in traditional wing tsun?
calam05 2 years ago
No, this is master Gutierrez, LeungTing lineage but with his tough interpretation... Gutierrez is probably one of the best when it comes to ... let the hands do the talking :)
jogobonito1234 2 years ago
SAU GEIL mach ich jetzt auch ^^
94Addi 2 years ago
Willkommen im Club,hoffe bist nicht bei der EWTO...
HerrPlachi 2 years ago
EWTO? sind das irgentwie verschiede kampfstyle des WT?
94Addi 2 years ago
EWTO ist die europäische Wing Tsun Organisation... es gibt halt vereine die das unterrichten und das ist der größte. aber meines erachtens der letzte scheiß xD die sind nur auf geld aus -.- guck dir genau an wo du das machst, aber die sache ansich kann ich nur empfehlen ;) nur halt ewto... weiß nicht, eher nicht empfehlenswert xD
cohorsmortis 2 years ago
I dont want to fight this guy. :(
ShinyIsHina 2 years ago
HAHAHA i love these perfectly cheorographed sequences. Im still waiting for a wing chun expert to emerge in the ufc or ANY mma circuit out there
jeepdude770 2 years ago
have you ever been to an live show if you go and try to attack for exampel Emin Boztepe he could kill you within seconds if you see real fights it looks quiet like this with the difference its not that aggressiv cause its training...^^ other wise you wont find many opontes capable of contering your attacks...
D4rkoOOo 2 years ago
like mma matters in terms of real combat man. its a sport with rules and boundaries. Any decent UFC fighter fought like that that in the streets, they would be paste, but most of them know the difference between ring and real combat. you know who a lot of your UFC guys adore man? Bruce Lee. Not trying to rag just enlighten. Think on that.
Bastion83 2 years ago
that would be good but they fight to win and some moves or alot are illegal in MMA
Ziz208 2 years ago
he looks like rambo
scherz91 2 years ago
No.
HE IS RAMBO!!
myrtlevilleace 2 years ago
wing chun isnt a kind of karate -.-
jusie1270 2 years ago 40
@jusie1270 lol i´ve never heard such an bullshit like this. Win Chun is a kind of wushu that is known as kung fu in the western. get more informations bout the thangs you talk about.
OnePlaya54 1 year ago
@jusie1270 no it's not
TurboRatownik 4 months ago
i hate this kind of karate fight styles
FanOfTokyo 2 years ago
karate ........ it just shows that you have no idea of what you're talking about, which is fine because most critics on youtube dont. You're all masters of keyboard-fu!
wasssuuuppp420 2 years ago 32
@wasssuuuppp420 ahahahahahaha nice one dude
HermesDo 1 year ago
@wasssuuuppp420 its not karate you idiot, ppl like you dont know shit but only know how to talk shit
kinstar 1 year ago
@kinstar I'm saying that its NOT karate, I was referring to another comment. I can see how you'd could misread my post when read out of context. Wing tsun's a very good style.
wasssuuuppp420 1 year ago
i dont call this sparing hes going to kill all his students
kinstar 1 year ago
@wasssuuuppp420
lol it's tongue-fu and mouth-tai
dragonking700 11 months ago
he knows something :-)
leves555 2 years ago
Ahhhhh exellent!
Wizzydoofer 2 years ago
O_o wtf shit sounds,quali
mautastic 2 years ago 2
Wing Chung doesn't look awesome or gorgeous but in real fight, it helps you alot.
silmusashi 2 years ago
true weng chun have always been useful instead of elegant like Taekwondo and so
daper08 2 years ago
theres a vast assortment of punches. nothing can really make a punch look "elegant". taekwondo practitioners use those stupid jumping spinning flying kicks to showcase. its not like anyone would use that in a real life situation..
johneykang 2 years ago
except it was useful for them in the period.. As the Koreans could kick Japanese invaders off their horses with those "elegant" "showcase" spinning kicks with much efficiency.
History shapes the systems people use.
TaeKwonDo historically goes under different battlefield assumptions.
.....
Different techniques for different situations, A willingness and ability to change between them without holding favorites, Sounds like WingTsun principles to me. But what do i know, I'm not master.
Marcus711 2 years ago
that first comment makes a good point. yeah about taekwondo, ive been doing it for 17 years now.. i dont believe in those jumping kicks for two reasons. it may have been affective and useful back then, but today's world is a whole new beast. secondly, if your not naturally built light on your feet, its VERY discouraging not being able to do them.. as well as killer on your knees.
johneykang 2 years ago
Agree. They are pretty difficult and pretty unnecessary for today.
Idk.. who knows when you`ll have to kick a samurai in the face off their horse..
Marcus711 2 years ago
well all this depends on the level of your martial art skills, I think you have to be very very skilled to use these kicks as useful as its ment to be in a real fight.. But I think most of these martial arts in the western world is alot of showcase today.. I don't know, I've tried taekwondo, shaolin kung fu, and Wing Tsung, and when I fight for real I use my Wing Tsun Only, dosn't look good but its effective
daper08 2 years ago
Shit man, the day i see a samurai riding down the street on horseback, im kickin that mother fucker straight in the chin.
johneykang 2 years ago
You guys have made me smile, you're educated in what you're talking about and not taking it too seriously. It's true that TKD is too often taught purely as sport, but it's also true that it was made as an effective style. Also, I need to make a shirt now that says "I kicked a Samurai off his horse and all I got was this stupid t-shirt and a sore foot."
DreadXK7 2 years ago
WT/wingchun resembles premature girls trying to slap each other than anything else.
WT Practitioners say WT is the best for selfdefence, period. Pure ignorance... No single approach can be THE BEST in every situation.
Only 2 Wing chun stylists have entered UFC and if im not mistaken both got KTFO in under 1min.
WT=BS and Emin knows it . Thats why boztepe talked trash about the Gracies then ducked out after Royce accepted his "challenge".
anonymous0294 2 years ago
You've posted this twice now on two WC vids. You seem to be a MMA fanboy, convinced that only MMA works or is effective.
As for your tired, predictable UFC post, you could argue that no WC practitioner has participated since the early days, when pretty much all fighters were of an amateur nature. Wing Chun can be incredibly effective in a real life engagement, I have, unfortunately used it to defend myself, very successfully.
Is WC the ultimate? No it's why I cross train grappling too.
fuckingpillock 2 years ago
Great Video. 5 stars!
WingChunDemon 3 years ago
Maybe one day, this guys will understand that THIS IS NOT WORKING WITH A REAL FIGHTER, not cooperative and able to perform REAL TAKEDOWNS, throw REAL PUNCHES and knees.
THE DAY THEY WILL SHOW ME A VIDEO OF ONE OF THIS SUPPOSED "MASTER" again somebody really tough (Silva, Rutten, Shamrock, Fedor, Lee Morrison...) I'll get back all my words.
I saw tons of video supposed to be WT vs MMA and they are ridiculos.
I AM WAITING (for a video response).
I AM WAITING.
airwatching 3 years ago
And I will saw one Fight on the Street with that MMA guys when no Referee is who said no punch in eyes , breast or dick! And you will see how good they are when no referee is because street is street anfd no cage with rules!
MartinZ123 3 years ago
Jesus you're a retard. I'm getting exceedingly bored and intolerant of this kind of shit. Just because the best fighters in the world don't use these techniques doesn't mean these techniques are useless. Look at REALITY for a second. These techniques and many other oriental ones, WERE USED AGAINST ARMIES THAT HAD PEOPLE WITH FUCKING SWORDS! I'd like to see Shamrock take on a fucking samurai with a sword... NO? Because kung fu practitioners did! Fucking moron...
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
You are right man, it's full of armies outside there equipped with katanas... luckily there is you to defend me with wingtsun :-)
airwatching 3 years ago
kung fu in general. If a martial artist can't use kung fu, that's because he's not good enough to. Bad workers blame their tools. The tools have been proven in mass battles, against opponenets with assorted weaponry and armor, the tools work fine. hence, it's the worker who can't use them.
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
At this point I must apologize. Taken by the rush I didn't explained myself correctly.
I am not saying that wing Tsun or Kung Fu are not effective in fighting. Believe me or not, I practised 4 years of wing tsun when I was younger. What I want to say is that if somebody trains against a partially cooperative opponent, not using full force and speed, then TO ME that training is useless and can create a false sense of confidence. I say this because I tried on my skin, and it wasn't funny.
airwatching 2 years ago
Now, when I train, independently by the style or system I'm using, I train more realistic as possible, and I've seen great improvements in my skills. Again, IMHO, despite the fact that Gutierrez is famous and surely strong, in this video I don't see REAL fighting training. And I know that wing tsun can be MUCH better than this.
Peace.
airwatching 2 years ago
I totally agree with that.
PostApocalypticChase 2 years ago
I train WT, and even in my own gym.. I'm faced with guys and girls who don't take their training seriously.. Who aren't really there to learn how to defend themselves, and don't realize the dangers of false confidence.
I feel like that isn't just a WT thing, as when I train Muay Thai and JiuJutsu, it was a similar thing.. Only a few people really wanted to learn, who really cared about what works.. what's practical.
Marcus711 2 years ago
Sadly it's someting we have also here in italy. you are completely right. Few people train with the right attitude.
airwatching 2 years ago
These guys look like they know their stuff.
Very realistic looking to me! Hope they didn't get to beat up doing this video.
Ronin6575 3 years ago 2
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davichuuu 3 years ago
Fast hands is important, but quickness is even more so especially quickness of mind, so you can assess the scenario in a moment, and react accordingly and so you can improvise the moves, being that in a real fight you won't be doing specific pre-sequenced forms. What made Lee the best is precisely that he took this stuff and applied it in real street fights and challenge matches, not just in the ring against sport martial artists where many moves couldn't be used then either.
pokbacsi100 3 years ago
I've never seen this applied against a resisting opponent. Until I see it in a real fight against a kick boxer, boxer or MMA guy, it's not impressive.
Oracurax 3 years ago
Your not likely to see it unless you're in it. It happens too quick and is an effective way to end a fight quick.. no nonense. I think German special forces (?) use this type of combat.
Andysablue 3 years ago
You don't really think that everyone at the street uses kickboxing, boxing or mma, do you? Otherwise you should widen your view... Wing Chun isn't for sports, as kickboxin' and boxin' and maybe some variations of mma are... You could even kill people with it(Wing chun)... Not that I recommend it.
Xanedis 3 years ago
Once again. Kung Fu was used against armies of people, and often massive groups of armed bandits, the proof of that is in the temples and in Chinese history. I should say, until an MMA guy or Boxer beats a heavily armed group of medieval bandits, I'm not impressed. -bows-
PostApocalypticChase 3 years ago
postapolcalyptic chase, you do realize that most people in those times were untrained, even if the kung fu masters in china fought eatch other using the same general theory and method,
basicly saying kung fu v.s kung fu
shadowcar88 2 years ago
I agree.
I feel more impressed by a Judoka since he's trained against a non-cooperative opponent. This video is simulation, no prove it really works. Maybe but not sure.
airwatching 3 years ago
it's so real.....that No One gets injured in the process of making this video!
billyhay 3 years ago
:-)
airwatching 3 years ago
hey they hired the cobar kai instructor from karate kid to do this video?
billyhay 3 years ago
its real. I tell you...
Gsimmons9 3 years ago
wow, that guy looks hardcore... scary hardcore hmmm
shuriichan 4 years ago
Hi, i'm spanish. This video is a demostration of what u can do with WT. The sifu (master) of the video is Victor Gutierrez... One of the most important sifu's in Spain.
pedritowallas 4 years ago
This guy needs learn some Anger management!!
ckobo84 4 years ago
It seems to me that the only real thing you need to be good at Wing Tsun is fast hands. Is this right? I was looking for something to complement my Bujinkan Training, is there more to it that I'm missing??
Is the sticky hands thingo the best part of Wing Tsun
mistermista22 4 years ago
what is the music on this video called?
zengzicong 5 years ago
it's a bastardized version of Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
jpaver 5 years ago
Wing Tsun is probably the most versatile of martial arts. JJ is used to bring people down and fight them there. Wing Tsun is still largely a striking style.
Tokanawa 5 years ago
Ju-Jutsu is NOT Judo. Judo is "Ground-Gight". Ju-Jutsu is more like a "Jack-of-all-Trades". I know not a single WT-Fighter who dares to visit our training, although we invited them once. Here in Germany, WTlers tend to think to be invincible. If you "manage" to them they say "I let you win" or something like that.
himura85 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure that "Judo is "Ground-Gight"" When Judo means, the way of flexibility or passivity.
I have very high regard for the ju-jutsu system, even though i train WT.
WingTsun is versatile, because we can use "ju-jutsu techniques" but still be doing WingTsun.. it's not the techniques what soever that motivates us. It is the principles of economy of motion and efficiency, not resisting so as to get taken advantage, and above all, the ability to change to fit the changing situations.
Marcus711 2 years ago
Lol Judo means the Gentle Way
but as my Sensei puts it ' Throws have been clocked at 120 kmh; nothing Gentle about it '
ahhatheJoker 2 years ago
its nice when you read a comment from someone who knows what theyre talking about, too many people thing wc is crap cos its not on mma, i like reading about people who know the economy of motion and centre line theory etc thank you
kungfusharpeandrock 2 years ago
no, people think wing chun sucks cuz they have common sense and are able to compare Martial arts to eatch other....
get a grip dude, listen to your self,
you have never sparred a pro boxer using wing chun in your life!. yet I am very suprised on how famous wing chun is even though it is known to not work on a good trained fighter, it only works on untrained fighters, LOL, seriously....try to at least spar a pro boxer, k?
shadowcar88 2 years ago
ok i stand corrected i guess
kungfusharpeandrock 2 years ago
Good point. I think it gained popularity because of Bruce Lee, but even Bruce Lee moved away from wing chun and gravitated more towards boxing because he realized his wing chun was not that practical
aliendisorder 2 years ago
No, do some Research. He broke away from Wing chun becuase It was his Dream to one day make his own Martial art
alec12 2 years ago
He didn't like the fixed positions in wing chun, and he found them to be not so useful in actual combat. Hence, in the tao of jeet kune do, you see Bruce emphasize boxing strategies as a means for effective attack and defense, not wing chun.
aliendisorder 2 years ago
Bruce lee learned other martial arts, because his sifu yip man did't want to train him after he went to USA. Bruce never learned the higher forms. And two years of Wing Tsun training is not enough to be a Kung Fu master or in any martial art. But Bruce Lee is a legend and wrote many books about the human body and effective training, and so he gained so much speed and power. & boxer do not kick, use elbows or any other body parts... they only fight with fists, what I think is a big disadvantage.
M43k0 2 years ago
Ive done Muay Thai for 3 years and wing chun for 2 years...and i use wing chun....i have fought three Muay Thai Professionals and 2 boxers using wing chun.....and guess what
i only lost one fight to one of the Muay Thai guys......WIng Chun is very effective if you understand it....like the guy in this video
alec12 2 years ago
But you winning the fight doesnt give wing chun credibility, it could mean that the muay thai guy that you fought was not as well trained as you are. Regarding your response to my earlier comment, Bruce Lee's dream was to be the world's greatest martial artist. It was because of his pursuit of that dream that led him to create Jeet Kune Do. He found some flaws in wing chun and modified the stance to a more jeet kune do lead stance.
aliendisorder 2 years ago
The flaw was he never finished wing chun. There are 3 systems in wing chun he only learned the 1st before he left. Yip Man senior students always asked him why did he care so much about bruce he can't fight.
Bruce left before he finished the system thats why he didn't like it. Also He became famous for winning every fight with only the 1st system and 90% of Jeet Kune Do is the 1st system of wing chun and 10% of other stuff he found that worked.
gungriffen 2 years ago 4
thats true he only ever got to chum kiu, mind u he was bloody good still
kungfusharpeandrock 2 years ago
No doubt he natural talent. The problem is Bruce Lee was a natural. Jeet Kune Do has never worked for anyone but Bruce who else has used JKD to reach what bruce did. It wasn't the style it was Bruce.
gungriffen 2 years ago 2
Yeah, that's one of the reason you hear about JJ blue belts beating up "Practicianer" level Wing Tsun "fighters"
NoodlesMcGee 5 years ago
Well I heared that Emin Botztepe won a fight against the guy which was called the best fighter of the World by bruce Lee. and i doubt that you really heared bluebelts won a fight against a practician
J3rk4holic 5 years ago
Any point that involves Bruce Lee, as a rule of thumb, fails.
NoodlesMcGee 5 years ago
hmmm... nothing ju-jutsu doens't have, but we can controll people without beating them down. and bring them down without going AGAINST their moving direction...
himura85 5 years ago
I think thats the stupidest thing you could put on a wing chun video. The whole concept of wing chun is to not fight force with force. Juijitsu extends from wing chuns principals and emphasises the ground as your "home". Thats the only difference. Know your facts before you speak.
panther426 4 years ago
Hmmm..."realistic"? Defending against an axe kick?
And the sparring wasn't sparring. Some good stuff in there though.
Plimp73 5 years ago
the best fighter in the world!!
chumkiu79 5 years ago
Sifu Victor is awesome.
wtguy 5 years ago