Guys I am currently working on a new ECM video - This one was fair, but there are still several things that are not covered and it leaves gaps that I am not happy with. Its on the way once we finish testing, but for a month now we have been trying to pin down as close as we can get to the definitive dynamics of the way this kit functions. I am yet to see a video that proves how this equipment works without doubts, so stay tuned for an update on it
I have played BF games since I was able to work a key board and a mouse I laugh when I see how much there graphics have improved since day one. I hope to stick with them thro the rest of there games.
That's complete and utter bullshit. It's a completely common tactic to use ECM jammer to disappear from the opponent's air radar. Maybe this was before a patch or something? Also I play on 360 and I decided to try and use it but it seemed bugged, I couldn't use it all the time, sometimes I would go full minutes without being able to deploy countermeasures.
@elchino7 yeah im pretty sure thats not the reason dude, its probably more to do with range or so. But dont worry I am working on getting some footage from a controlled environment to demonstrate all aspects
@Luetin09 one thing, console and PC may dont have the "same physics" so it may work different. I dont play so frequently with Helis but as i said theres like 50% chance of deflecting missiles with ECM. Even on 1vs1 heli fights i´ve seen how my seekers where deflected by chaf cloud. I dont usually record but that scene where the missile pass me from a side its kinda clear. The one on top on G (TV station) had a clear shot and was pretty close.
@elchino7 I have been doing research on this for the past week now, and got some of my clan involved. I am going to be remaking the ECM video, to make a Definitive guide. So a final version of this will be on the way. Right now the most confusing thing is the Heat seekers, it seems though that they have a % chance to deflect them but only IF they pass through the chaff. Either way its very inconsistant, and on that basis I would never use it as a reliable defense only as a last resort
@Luetin09 yep i know... but since more people unlock javelins or guided weapons + laser painters, ECM is a must have as a pilot of heli. I think with a jet you can choose either, if you know how to dodge missiles without any countermeasure i will advice you go for ECM, if not stick to the flares.
The job of an ECM Jammer, is to activate so no body can lock on to you for a short period of time. If you'd take the time to read the unlock's description, you would know this. Thumbs up so people know.
@ restricted not sure quite what u mean mate. But I will try and get a video with even more clarity in the next few days, reports about how the ECM function are often conflicting so I hope to make it clear and confirmed even if that means correcting any errors I may have made already
Yeah guys look there are clearly still some areas which seem to be not clear, I am working now on getting some definitive footage of each action and reaction involving the ECM, and I will probably remake the whole video to make sure its 100% correct. I always work my hardest to find things out accurately and make useful informative videos. Im also getting some PC footage tested as well to ensure I get a balanced rounded and accurate representation of the whole bloody thing lol
If you deploy flares, the heat from the flares will make the missile to miss because another source of heat is found.
If you deploy ECM, the laser tracking will be lost and the missile will just go on with it's current trajectory. It will also prevent any lock on from the SOFLAM or the Stinger/IGLA.
That being said, i can tell for sure that the ECM works better than flares, only if you deploy before the lock on and run away to reload it.
GREAT video. one thing i found is that ecm is horrible when facing targets with 2 missiles such as mobile aa, helicopters, and jets. since you have to use it before the enemy fires, you don't get the extra time of waiting for them to reload. they can quickly reacquire the lock and then take you down.
@AssesinoCereal true, but you know how helicopter dogfights usually come down to the 2 helis just facing each other and hovering? in this situation it's pretty hard to get away since the enemy can easily track you, and i'd rather stay and destroy the heli
@musikofreako1321 You're right... maybe if you do as i said before only with jets. With helicopters, you can have the gunner to deploy flares and yourself to deploy ECM.
@AssesinoCereal that seems to be the best method. used to have gunner run thermal optics but i figured staying alive is the first priority. now i'm using ecm/flares combo and it seems to be working out pretty good
So, on console BF3, do incoming stingers hit its target while ECM is activated? On PC, 75% of the time, they miss a helicopter depending on where the stinger is coming from and what direction the helicopter is flying.
@PsYcHoWaRl2ioR yup thats definately another option available but pointless is a bit of a strong statement to make, I think u would find they are far from pointless.
This video is inaccurate and the footage is from pre- dec 6th patch.
ECM no longer breaks an incoming lock from a guided missile or javelin. Furthermore, you see a javelin sometimes miss its target, but this no longer happens as it will go back up and hit the chopper, or at least try 3 times until it does, and if it doesn't, only then will it explode and miss.
@Luetin09 Well then this is VERY educational then because on PC, if a javelin misses the first time, it goes back up in a circle 3 times until it hits. Also, ECM does not break a lock of an incoming javelin.. Basically, on PC, if a javelin is fired before you pop ECM, you're dead.
@GraFiiKzYo It doesnt they last for the same amount of time, I just double checked using my recorded footage. If you would like me to put the footage up side by side with a timer I can get this arranged. But they are not shorter or longer they run for the same amount of time.
I'm not sure I get it. Can anyone explain to me what happens in the following situation?
You get laser designated, a javelin/guided missile locks on to that designation and fires. You use the ECM jammer while the javelin/missile is on its way.
@5THunderlord what should happen, is that the ECM will return the designator to a tracking lock instead of a solid lock, causing the missile to lose its guidance and miss you.
Be sure to continue these informative series; They are easily one of the best sources for in-depth information about the game. I appreciate your work.
@BattlefieldoTV @Luetin09 i have fly solo helis and while sometimes the gunners seat flares are reloading i managed to dodge flying missiles with the ECM. Nulifying the possibility of a gunner deploying flares the cause of the desviation of the seeker.
@elchino7 you can dodge missiles without the ECM or flares mate, I think these are fluke situations by the sound of it. If you want to test if its actually working allow yourself to be locked on, and dont make severe evasive maneuvers. I will test this tonight for myself and post tomorrow
@elchino7 tried it tonight, it does nothing. if you avoid heat seekers it was from the way you were flying not the ecm, tried it for 2 hours on Kharg and Caspian multiple times flew at different heights angles etc etc made no difference. Sorry.
@BattlefieldoTV@Luetin09 I cant be 100% sure but it almost seems that ECM works a bit different on attack helis on comparison to jets. I´ve seen jet pilots deploying ECM but against air to air Missil they got hit, even if the missile go through the chaff cloud. BUT while flying helis, its another story. I would say 50% of ECM discrupting flying missiles. I should have to record to make it valid.
@elchino7 do you not think its more likely that the gunners flares are actually what is disrupting the rockets. I will do my own tests this week mate, but I think this is still very unlikely. The ECM is designed to block lock ons, and disrupt tracking locks and guidance of laser missiles. I have seen posts stating that it can have a minor effect on Heat seekers in the air but to be honest this simply is not the case. I will continue testing this week and record it
@TheBritzius Many people have said this, but in reality if you try and use it for this purpose you will just get destroyed often. If you can find some good footage of someone actually using it for this purpose then I will edit my video to include it. But until I actually see it with my own eyes I consider it to be hearsay because I think its more likely they are avoiding it by fluke, than the ECM actually having any effect on it
@TheBritzius Just to continue with my point I tested the ECM for several days and I went into some games deliberately letting myself get locked on just to test if it would have any effect on heat seekers etc etc. From all of the games and gameplay I tested from both air and ground attacks I found that no heat seeking air missiles would be disrupted by the ECM. Again though if you have some clear footage of this working I would love to see it. But it wouldnt work for me or my team
@Luetin09 Hmm.. that's interesting. I know I've seen the jammer work in this way. However, it was only in the Attack helicopters that I've observed it and it definitely wasn't 100% consistent. Perhaps I will try to compile a video as I have definitely seen, multiple times, close-proximity heatseeking missiles (AA missiles from mobile AA seem to be immune) blatantly change course due to the active ECM jammer. Thanks for the vid, btw, it's awesome!
this guy is amazing on jets! awesome video man very detailed video maybe the most detailed video on youtube too bad i suck on jets i can never seem to fly them right
yeah guys we get the message some people are happy not using AA rockets some people are happy using them. I think its also fair to say that believe it or not in gaming and in life in general people have different skill levels. I know thats a difficult concept to absorb so just take a moment and a deep breath. Now we can continue on without the pointless ur a noob im a noob were all noobs together comments.
holy shit somebody actually playing on a console wow, i really thought i was the only one. Now im going to get a bunch of hate mail from PC gamers about how pc is soo much better, ok go ahead guys cuz i really dont care.
another awesome video, i love the editing, good music, and good voice, but when u explain in video do ZOOM in to the part of the screen u r trying to describe be bf3 shows so much info on the screen, and pause the video for us so we can better understand.
@wojtekc27 great suggestions, I will try to do this if I think its necessary but my time constraints for producing them are quite tight with all the other things I have to do in my life at the moment. Thanks for your comments.
Great video! With the stated cooldown (10s) and uptime (5s), wouldn't it be possible for a helicopter team to both run ECM, and never be locked on to? As one runs out and the locking starts the other hits it and locking is broken, making you unlockable?
I added a text amendment to the air radar section. thanks for pointing out that clip at 5:04 trying to tie down the effects for this video hasn't been easy.
at 5:04 he starts to lock a jet which pops ECM...You can clearly see it o nthe radar before he pops and after he pops you can clearly see he disappears
@judemcdude7 Yes you're right actually - I spent so long testing this, last time I listen to another persons opinion for info. However, if you watch the video at 5:04 the time you are off air radar is literally about 2-3 seconds I think the reason we thought that it had no effect is because it lasts for such a short time it has little effect. My guy who was flying around me while I used ECM said that he could see me on air radar constantly. So it may work but for no practical use
@smashsolidsnake454 yeah this is bang on, its about preference and also everyone is always going to have different skill levels there will always be someone better than you and someone worse. People should always just play the best they can. Also for most of these recordings I was using AA missiles to try and gather footage of how the lock ons can be effected same as when i was running javelins.
@tomyt03 I'm on PS3 1200 jet kills I'll say about 1000+ of those are a mix of mini gun and rocket pods. air-to-air missles are useless against a semi decent pilot...I just dodge them...Pilots that use them always looking for a lock letting me know where u are and usually focused on trying to lock don't realize ur being baited into my counterattack, before u know it I'm behind u my mini guns destroy u in a quarter of the time it wld take u to lock onto me if I was flying in a strait line lol...
@crewracer7 again this is a bit of a generalization if you look in my video I get a mix of kills from both the AA and Minigun. AA rockets generally suit conquest play as you often have 2 jets plus a heli to deal with, the AA will give you extra firepower on top of your minigun, on Rush games you will have far less aircraft to deal with making rocket pods a strong choice. As we've said many times already today, its a personal preference and one persons opinion isnt gospel
@necrorace that's not true it an effective weapon to use to distract the enemy and then give you a bigger chance to destroy them with the machine gun while they are thinking how to react to the missile
@necrorace@Pedro11343@remember2023 and sure a lot more. i would agree, EXCEPT for flying with the F35. Beam scanning + seekers is the only way i can defeat a Su35 on a dogfight (decent pilot).
Also (PC) on servers which i have 1heli, 1scout/transport and 2 jets with times respawns between 30/60 secs (or even less) i have not a big windows of opportunity to deal with land vehicles safely.
According to the map, the team and enemy, you should change your gadgets.
@elchino7 This is the most sensible post ive seen on here today, and I fully agree. Thanks for this post Elchino. I also would say to people remember that I play on PS3 not PC, so in games of conquest as you say there are only 1 heli 2 jets and maybe a scout. So the opportunity of dealing with land vehicles is often less inclined.
At the end of the day its simply a personal choice, and to insult people because of this is simply egotistical.
@necrorace No it's not - It's a vital tool in fast take downs of enemy air planes.
Lock on, fire first one. Enemy pop's flares. Fire second missile. And then go for the cannon if you have to.
You're not an effective pilot with only the cannon. It's most effective at ground units but you can only shoot STRAIGHT where your nose is pointing. Which makes it a flaw since if you play against a skilled pilot - They won't fly in a straight line...
@nabim123 Lol how can you descipher a change in accent through text? especially when you have put the same spelling in both cases? but I get what you're trying to say. The English spelling and pronunciation is "Aluminium" and only US English replaces the "ium" with "um", strange though that they dont change other elements such as magnesium, lithium or sodium.
1.Air radar + Rocket Pods + ECM Jammer (most used for all game-types)
2. Stealth + Heat-seaking missiles + ECM/flare (I use this, if ever, on Rush. On conquest not having the rocket pods means less killing of ground vehicles)
The main reason I like 1 over number 2 is the fact that I've gotten proficient at using the Jet's main gun.That and the fact that if you use heat-seakers, a good pilot can just work around them.
You forgot about the scout helicopter having ECM jammer, best setup for scout is laser designater, ECM jammer, guided missiles, you should do a vid about that
Nice, love your series! It helps a lot and I'll be applying this to my Squad mates whenever we are in an Attack Chopper! Also to those who don't know <.< He pronounced Aluminium correctly, it is only pronounced Aluminum in America because Websters dictionary only had it listed as Aluminum in 1828 and it stuck. Small History lesson complete
Guys I am currently working on a new ECM video - This one was fair, but there are still several things that are not covered and it leaves gaps that I am not happy with. Its on the way once we finish testing, but for a month now we have been trying to pin down as close as we can get to the definitive dynamics of the way this kit functions. I am yet to see a video that proves how this equipment works without doubts, so stay tuned for an update on it
Luetin09 6 hours ago
ecm owns the flares
gofuckloser 10 hours ago
I HATE HELICOPTER PILOTS THAT SHOOT AT PLANES...ARGHHHHHH
mowerj456 1 day ago
You make excellent vidios. Very well scripted and thought out. I would say that you are the definitive guide.
petedread 2 days ago
you have a very good commentary voice
masterzeek 5 days ago
Fantastic summary, thanks so much for putting in all of that time.
eikonic 6 days ago
I have played BF games since I was able to work a key board and a mouse I laugh when I see how much there graphics have improved since day one. I hope to stick with them thro the rest of there games.
XxM3RK1CLANxX 1 week ago
very good work!
dorsz1000 1 week ago
Great video, cheers.
MSimp2k6 2 weeks ago
That's complete and utter bullshit. It's a completely common tactic to use ECM jammer to disappear from the opponent's air radar. Maybe this was before a patch or something? Also I play on 360 and I decided to try and use it but it seemed bugged, I couldn't use it all the time, sometimes I would go full minutes without being able to deploy countermeasures.
choppaholic26 3 weeks ago
my jet setup is beam scanner ECM jammer and Heat seekers
TheNfstuner 4 weeks ago
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TheBlackIdentety 5 days ago
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@TheNfstuner And with my air radar,flares,heat seekers setup I easily dominate you :P
TheBlackIdentety 5 days ago
Opening song: Venetian Snares - Felbomlasztott mentökocsi
VVaRii 1 month ago 10
@VVaRii You win 50 Luetin Points :D congrats
Luetin09 2 weeks ago
PD: weird/fancy colour correction and low quality is just for making another test.
elchino7 1 month ago
@Luetin09 i´ve got some PC footage on which i thinks its a clear video of how ECM actually works against fired seekers, at least on Helis.
/watch?v=w81A5DEWaSE
I dont like to do this but thumps up for people to see it.
elchino7 1 month ago
@elchino7 yeah im pretty sure thats not the reason dude, its probably more to do with range or so. But dont worry I am working on getting some footage from a controlled environment to demonstrate all aspects
Luetin09 1 month ago
@Luetin09 one thing, console and PC may dont have the "same physics" so it may work different. I dont play so frequently with Helis but as i said theres like 50% chance of deflecting missiles with ECM. Even on 1vs1 heli fights i´ve seen how my seekers where deflected by chaf cloud. I dont usually record but that scene where the missile pass me from a side its kinda clear. The one on top on G (TV station) had a clear shot and was pretty close.
elchino7 1 month ago
@elchino7 I have been doing research on this for the past week now, and got some of my clan involved. I am going to be remaking the ECM video, to make a Definitive guide. So a final version of this will be on the way. Right now the most confusing thing is the Heat seekers, it seems though that they have a % chance to deflect them but only IF they pass through the chaff. Either way its very inconsistant, and on that basis I would never use it as a reliable defense only as a last resort
Luetin09 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Luetin09 yep i know... but since more people unlock javelins or guided weapons + laser painters, ECM is a must have as a pilot of heli. I think with a jet you can choose either, if you know how to dodge missiles without any countermeasure i will advice you go for ECM, if not stick to the flares.
elchino7 1 week ago
I do like this channel but I am going to have to start watching without any sound. Nothing personal, just that voice is shocking.
GregBushMoose 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
flares are more effective for me
Ksharp1fan 1 month ago
Can we get the name of the song in the opening?
Dokosatchii 1 month ago
The job of an ECM Jammer, is to activate so no body can lock on to you for a short period of time. If you'd take the time to read the unlock's description, you would know this. Thumbs up so people know.
Pr3dProductionsHD 1 month ago
@Luetin09 doesn't the ECM only work when low to the ground?
TheQbase 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
opening song is really great whats the name?
olitense 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 12
am i the only one who thought he sounded like bear grylls
tbowen8615 1 month ago
@ restricted not sure quite what u mean mate. But I will try and get a video with even more clarity in the next few days, reports about how the ECM function are often conflicting so I hope to make it clear and confirmed even if that means correcting any errors I may have made already
Luetin09 1 month ago
Yeah guys look there are clearly still some areas which seem to be not clear, I am working now on getting some definitive footage of each action and reaction involving the ECM, and I will probably remake the whole video to make sure its 100% correct. I always work my hardest to find things out accurately and make useful informative videos. Im also getting some PC footage tested as well to ensure I get a balanced rounded and accurate representation of the whole bloody thing lol
Luetin09 1 month ago
@Luetin09 also can you include what the red lock on vs non red means? is red from aa/air?
griff3n69 1 month ago
If you deploy flares, the heat from the flares will make the missile to miss because another source of heat is found.
If you deploy ECM, the laser tracking will be lost and the missile will just go on with it's current trajectory. It will also prevent any lock on from the SOFLAM or the Stinger/IGLA.
That being said, i can tell for sure that the ECM works better than flares, only if you deploy before the lock on and run away to reload it.
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
GREAT video. one thing i found is that ecm is horrible when facing targets with 2 missiles such as mobile aa, helicopters, and jets. since you have to use it before the enemy fires, you don't get the extra time of waiting for them to reload. they can quickly reacquire the lock and then take you down.
musikofreako1321 1 month ago
@musikofreako1321 Prevent one lock on and run away before they can lock on again so your ECM is reloaded.
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
@AssesinoCereal true, but you know how helicopter dogfights usually come down to the 2 helis just facing each other and hovering? in this situation it's pretty hard to get away since the enemy can easily track you, and i'd rather stay and destroy the heli
musikofreako1321 1 month ago
@musikofreako1321 You're right... maybe if you do as i said before only with jets. With helicopters, you can have the gunner to deploy flares and yourself to deploy ECM.
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
@AssesinoCereal that seems to be the best method. used to have gunner run thermal optics but i figured staying alive is the first priority. now i'm using ecm/flares combo and it seems to be working out pretty good
musikofreako1321 1 month ago
is stealth and jammer good then it would be very hard to get a lock on maybe?
rtrtyyiikj 1 month ago
So wait, can someone make sure I have this correctly?
ECM: Doesn't break heat seeking missiles that are already in the air, but does break laser guided missiles that are already in the air
Flares: Don't break laser guided missiles that are already in the air, but do break head seeking missiles that are already in the air
drumline17 1 month ago
Man, that accent it's killing me! I can't understand you !
mk1212wq 1 month ago
@mk1212wq sorry about the way I speak?.. erm.. I guess? or .. not? or none, or all of the above?
Luetin09 1 month ago
So, on console BF3, do incoming stingers hit its target while ECM is activated? On PC, 75% of the time, they miss a helicopter depending on where the stinger is coming from and what direction the helicopter is flying.
xTankCeox 1 month ago
ecm and flares are pointless i jets use the extinguisher when you get locked on to you just fly in circles and you can usually avoid the missiles
PsYcHoWaRl2ioR 1 month ago
@PsYcHoWaRl2ioR yup thats definately another option available but pointless is a bit of a strong statement to make, I think u would find they are far from pointless.
Luetin09 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This video is inaccurate and the footage is from pre- dec 6th patch.
ECM no longer breaks an incoming lock from a guided missile or javelin. Furthermore, you see a javelin sometimes miss its target, but this no longer happens as it will go back up and hit the chopper, or at least try 3 times until it does, and if it doesn't, only then will it explode and miss.
xTankCeox 1 month ago
@xTankCeox This footage is from this week not from dec the 6th, and it works as shown we tested firing at and taking fire in jets helis etc etc etc.
Luetin09 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Luetin09 Well then this is VERY educational then because on PC, if a javelin misses the first time, it goes back up in a circle 3 times until it hits. Also, ECM does not break a lock of an incoming javelin.. Basically, on PC, if a javelin is fired before you pop ECM, you're dead.
xTankCeox 1 month ago
ecm actually does come back faster then flares me and my friends flared and ecmed at the same time and ecm came back first by about 2-3 seconds
GraFiiKzYo 1 month ago
@GraFiiKzYo It doesnt they last for the same amount of time, I just double checked using my recorded footage. If you would like me to put the footage up side by side with a timer I can get this arranged. But they are not shorter or longer they run for the same amount of time.
Luetin09 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
You sound like a british scientist, therfore i shall trust you
BlackVulture12 1 month ago
@BlackVulture12 That's my (modified) comment there...
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
I'm not sure I get it. Can anyone explain to me what happens in the following situation?
You get laser designated, a javelin/guided missile locks on to that designation and fires. You use the ECM jammer while the javelin/missile is on its way.
5THunderlord 1 month ago
@5THunderlord what should happen, is that the ECM will return the designator to a tracking lock instead of a solid lock, causing the missile to lose its guidance and miss you.
Luetin09 1 month ago
@Luetin09 Thanks Leutin, that clearifies it.
Be sure to continue these informative series; They are easily one of the best sources for in-depth information about the game. I appreciate your work.
5THunderlord 1 month ago
@BattlefieldoTV @Luetin09 i have fly solo helis and while sometimes the gunners seat flares are reloading i managed to dodge flying missiles with the ECM. Nulifying the possibility of a gunner deploying flares the cause of the desviation of the seeker.
elchino7 1 month ago
@elchino7 you can dodge missiles without the ECM or flares mate, I think these are fluke situations by the sound of it. If you want to test if its actually working allow yourself to be locked on, and dont make severe evasive maneuvers. I will test this tonight for myself and post tomorrow
Luetin09 1 month ago
@elchino7 tried it tonight, it does nothing. if you avoid heat seekers it was from the way you were flying not the ecm, tried it for 2 hours on Kharg and Caspian multiple times flew at different heights angles etc etc made no difference. Sorry.
Luetin09 1 month ago
@BattlefieldoTV @Luetin09 I cant be 100% sure but it almost seems that ECM works a bit different on attack helis on comparison to jets. I´ve seen jet pilots deploying ECM but against air to air Missil they got hit, even if the missile go through the chaff cloud. BUT while flying helis, its another story. I would say 50% of ECM discrupting flying missiles. I should have to record to make it valid.
elchino7 1 month ago
@elchino7 do you not think its more likely that the gunners flares are actually what is disrupting the rockets. I will do my own tests this week mate, but I think this is still very unlikely. The ECM is designed to block lock ons, and disrupt tracking locks and guidance of laser missiles. I have seen posts stating that it can have a minor effect on Heat seekers in the air but to be honest this simply is not the case. I will continue testing this week and record it
Luetin09 1 month ago
I've noticed that ECM can also scramble close proximity stingers/igla's not just the laser missiles
TheBritzius 1 month ago
@TheBritzius Many people have said this, but in reality if you try and use it for this purpose you will just get destroyed often. If you can find some good footage of someone actually using it for this purpose then I will edit my video to include it. But until I actually see it with my own eyes I consider it to be hearsay because I think its more likely they are avoiding it by fluke, than the ECM actually having any effect on it
Luetin09 1 month ago
@TheBritzius Just to continue with my point I tested the ECM for several days and I went into some games deliberately letting myself get locked on just to test if it would have any effect on heat seekers etc etc. From all of the games and gameplay I tested from both air and ground attacks I found that no heat seeking air missiles would be disrupted by the ECM. Again though if you have some clear footage of this working I would love to see it. But it wouldnt work for me or my team
Luetin09 1 month ago
@Luetin09 I think that's because the heat seekers just need a one-time lock on to work, while the laser designation has to be a constant lock on.
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
@Luetin09 Hmm.. that's interesting. I know I've seen the jammer work in this way. However, it was only in the Attack helicopters that I've observed it and it definitely wasn't 100% consistent. Perhaps I will try to compile a video as I have definitely seen, multiple times, close-proximity heatseeking missiles (AA missiles from mobile AA seem to be immune) blatantly change course due to the active ECM jammer. Thanks for the vid, btw, it's awesome!
TheBritzius 1 month ago
Rome TW strategic map music FTW.
TheBritzius 1 month ago
this guy is amazing on jets! awesome video man very detailed video maybe the most detailed video on youtube too bad i suck on jets i can never seem to fly them right
mrabudi1 1 month ago
yeah guys we get the message some people are happy not using AA rockets some people are happy using them. I think its also fair to say that believe it or not in gaming and in life in general people have different skill levels. I know thats a difficult concept to absorb so just take a moment and a deep breath. Now we can continue on without the pointless ur a noob im a noob were all noobs together comments.
Luetin09 1 month ago
holy shit somebody actually playing on a console wow, i really thought i was the only one. Now im going to get a bunch of hate mail from PC gamers about how pc is soo much better, ok go ahead guys cuz i really dont care.
xResTriicTedx 1 month ago
@xResTriicTedx as you know I play on a console, but what was the purpose of this post?
Luetin09 1 month ago
@Luetin09 i didnt know that i cant post what i want to and i feel the post is pretty self explanatory so i dont need to explain anything
xResTriicTedx 1 month ago
another awesome video, i love the editing, good music, and good voice, but when u explain in video do ZOOM in to the part of the screen u r trying to describe be bf3 shows so much info on the screen, and pause the video for us so we can better understand.
thanks HOMER FROM TAIWAN
wojtekc27 1 month ago
@wojtekc27 great suggestions, I will try to do this if I think its necessary but my time constraints for producing them are quite tight with all the other things I have to do in my life at the moment. Thanks for your comments.
Luetin09 1 month ago
Great video! With the stated cooldown (10s) and uptime (5s), wouldn't it be possible for a helicopter team to both run ECM, and never be locked on to? As one runs out and the locking starts the other hits it and locking is broken, making you unlockable?
EvenBattlefield 1 month ago
@EvenBattlefield just off the top of my head I dont think the gunner position can take the ECM as part of their loadout.
So I dont think its possible
Luetin09 1 month ago
the ecm also works when you are flying towards a target whereas flares don't
ostrichbean 1 month ago
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dakanister23 1 month ago
This... is Luetin.
123yamomz 1 month ago
"This is Luetin, today I'm going to be teaching you how to kick fucking ass"
deathrow989 1 month ago 30
great! now everyone is going to use ecm and every god damn plane and helicopter will be impossible to take down
nfsfanAndrew 1 month ago
Holy shit, a BF3 uploader that really knows his shit!
significantimperfect 1 month ago 11
@runescapetutoria1000 they both can be very effective like with anything it comes down mostly to personal preference.
Luetin09 1 month ago
I added a text amendment to the air radar section. thanks for pointing out that clip at 5:04 trying to tie down the effects for this video hasn't been easy.
Luetin09 1 month ago
I hate it on the Little Bird and Z-11!
JPUP1697 1 month ago
i mane speck ops
JorDonSolis 1 month ago
i hate to ask but what rank do u have to be to get the camo black ops
JorDonSolis 1 month ago
0:12 - 0:43 music?
Tr1ymf 1 month ago
Very informative, great video. Keep them coming.
KiwiCase 1 month ago
at 5:04 he starts to lock a jet which pops ECM...You can clearly see it o nthe radar before he pops and after he pops you can clearly see he disappears
pewpewgotyoo 1 month ago
using the ecm jammer dose work on air radar it makes you invisible on the enemys radar for as long as it is activated
judemcdude7 1 month ago 7
@judemcdude7 Yes you're right actually - I spent so long testing this, last time I listen to another persons opinion for info. However, if you watch the video at 5:04 the time you are off air radar is literally about 2-3 seconds I think the reason we thought that it had no effect is because it lasts for such a short time it has little effect. My guy who was flying around me while I used ECM said that he could see me on air radar constantly. So it may work but for no practical use
BattlefieldoTV 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Usefull video, thx)
P.S: only noobs use air-to-air missiles in plane
necrorace 1 month ago 35
@necrorace nah they are actually almost necessary on console because its so hard to aim the machine gun
tomyt03 1 month ago 20
@tomyt03 I dont have that problem , I play on xbox360. I use ecm jammer and air radar
TOMPSAR 1 month ago
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MrPantatRebus 1 month ago
@tomyt03 depends on the preferance of the pilot realy, personaly i couldnt live without rocket pods :P
smashsolidsnake454 1 month ago
@smashsolidsnake454 yeah this is bang on, its about preference and also everyone is always going to have different skill levels there will always be someone better than you and someone worse. People should always just play the best they can. Also for most of these recordings I was using AA missiles to try and gather footage of how the lock ons can be effected same as when i was running javelins.
Luetin09 1 month ago
@tomyt03 speak for yourself noob
im on xbox and im accurate with the machine gun
they are neccesary for bad pilots
remember2023 1 month ago
@tomyt03 Thei are not necessary when you know how to fly a jet
Pedro11343 1 month ago
@tomyt03 not at all
laxlaxlaxx 1 month ago
@tomyt03 I'm on PS3 1200 jet kills I'll say about 1000+ of those are a mix of mini gun and rocket pods. air-to-air missles are useless against a semi decent pilot...I just dodge them...Pilots that use them always looking for a lock letting me know where u are and usually focused on trying to lock don't realize ur being baited into my counterattack, before u know it I'm behind u my mini guns destroy u in a quarter of the time it wld take u to lock onto me if I was flying in a strait line lol...
crewracer7 1 month ago
@crewracer7 again this is a bit of a generalization if you look in my video I get a mix of kills from both the AA and Minigun. AA rockets generally suit conquest play as you often have 2 jets plus a heli to deal with, the AA will give you extra firepower on top of your minigun, on Rush games you will have far less aircraft to deal with making rocket pods a strong choice. As we've said many times already today, its a personal preference and one persons opinion isnt gospel
Luetin09 1 month ago
@tomyt03 I find it to be just as easy/hard on Consoles as it is on the PC. Granted a Joystick is more comfortable when on the PC.
But if we are talking about lining up the plane and such. It's about the same difficulty on a Console as with a Joystick. For me that is
Hartjesz 1 month ago
@tomyt03 Riiiiight... I use a PS3 controller on my PC for jets, and I'm on my 7th service star. Console controls are MUCH easier for jets/helis.
And yes, only nubs use AA missiles.
Flamamacue 1 month ago
@Flamamacue Lol. Precise aiming with the console controller doesn't exist. He's right about that
drumline17 1 month ago
@Flamamacue I'm not questioning you, but, can you tell me why you think only 'nubs' use the AA missiles?
AssesinoCereal 1 month ago
@tomyt03 uhh maybe if you suck
sirdiealot53 1 month ago
@necrorace that's not true it an effective weapon to use to distract the enemy and then give you a bigger chance to destroy them with the machine gun while they are thinking how to react to the missile
crazybag635 1 month ago
@necrorace why dooes everyone use them, if only noobs use them?
jarrod6935 1 month ago
@jarrod6935 because everyone is a noob :P
SnakebitLegend 1 month ago
@necrorace so true
Mavev5 1 month ago
@necrorace agree so much
RapidTheGamer 1 month ago
@necrorace @Pedro11343 @remember2023 and sure a lot more. i would agree, EXCEPT for flying with the F35. Beam scanning + seekers is the only way i can defeat a Su35 on a dogfight (decent pilot).
Also (PC) on servers which i have 1heli, 1scout/transport and 2 jets with times respawns between 30/60 secs (or even less) i have not a big windows of opportunity to deal with land vehicles safely.
According to the map, the team and enemy, you should change your gadgets.
elchino7 1 month ago
@elchino7 This is the most sensible post ive seen on here today, and I fully agree. Thanks for this post Elchino. I also would say to people remember that I play on PS3 not PC, so in games of conquest as you say there are only 1 heli 2 jets and maybe a scout. So the opportunity of dealing with land vehicles is often less inclined.
At the end of the day its simply a personal choice, and to insult people because of this is simply egotistical.
Luetin09 1 month ago
@necrorace No it's not - It's a vital tool in fast take downs of enemy air planes.
Lock on, fire first one. Enemy pop's flares. Fire second missile. And then go for the cannon if you have to.
You're not an effective pilot with only the cannon. It's most effective at ground units but you can only shoot STRAIGHT where your nose is pointing. Which makes it a flaw since if you play against a skilled pilot - They won't fly in a straight line...
Hartjesz 1 month ago
@TheDillsterr that's how you say it in British English fool. "Aluminum" in British and "Aluminum" in American Eng.
nabim123 1 month ago
@nabim123 What about ENGRISH?? I want to know how they pronounce that in the Engrish language..
philid123 1 month ago
@nabim123 Lol how can you descipher a change in accent through text? especially when you have put the same spelling in both cases? but I get what you're trying to say. The English spelling and pronunciation is "Aluminium" and only US English replaces the "ium" with "um", strange though that they dont change other elements such as magnesium, lithium or sodium.
MrCluskey 1 month ago
@MrCluskey lol my bad. I didnt realize I spelled them the same way. I did mean to say "aluminium" but I think it was my auto correct.
nabim123 1 month ago
@nabim123 Aluminium*
nabim123 1 month ago
Thanks! I was wondering how it works
Shockwaver08 1 month ago
XboxAhoy?
xXMrGamePlayerXx 1 month ago
I find your voice soothing.
MarvinTheMagical 1 month ago
My favorite Jet setups are:
1.Air radar + Rocket Pods + ECM Jammer (most used for all game-types)
2. Stealth + Heat-seaking missiles + ECM/flare (I use this, if ever, on Rush. On conquest not having the rocket pods means less killing of ground vehicles)
The main reason I like 1 over number 2 is the fact that I've gotten proficient at using the Jet's main gun.That and the fact that if you use heat-seakers, a good pilot can just work around them.
KyKoC 1 month ago
These are well made videos. Not sure who doesn't know these things already but as I said they're nicely made mate :)
XProffrinkX 1 month ago
@XProffrinkX a huge huge HUGE amount of people.
Luetin09 1 month ago
Nice, you are a good pilot.. There's not to much anti air activity..
Nosspheratuss 1 month ago
@Nosspheratuss He's not
XProffrinkX 1 month ago
wait but the description for the ECM jammer says that it has chaffs (flares) that deploy too but they dont.
Asoccerman123 1 month ago
@Asoccerman123 Chaff is not flares its little bits of metal and plastic that disrupt radar and laser lockons.
ASE7ENK 1 month ago
I think fire extinguisher is more useful for jets
TheDKJIN 1 month ago
you got kiled by a guy called IW-worker 45=infinity war worker 45, what the hell????
MrCalgaryFlamesfan 1 month ago
so if a HEAT lock is in the air after you and you pull the ECM, it will not break it? but break a laser guided missile in the air?
Waffles250 1 month ago
@Waffles250 it breaks the lock on sequence, and doesnt allow lockons. It doesnt break any missiles in air
foxfire1112 1 month ago
@Waffles250 excuse me, doesnt break heat in the air
foxfire1112 1 month ago
You forgot about the scout helicopter having ECM jammer, best setup for scout is laser designater, ECM jammer, guided missiles, you should do a vid about that
bobfreeman814 1 month ago
Nice, love your series! It helps a lot and I'll be applying this to my Squad mates whenever we are in an Attack Chopper! Also to those who don't know <.< He pronounced Aluminium correctly, it is only pronounced Aluminum in America because Websters dictionary only had it listed as Aluminum in 1828 and it stuck. Small History lesson complete
TotalxVertigo 1 month ago
please do a video on weapon unlocks.
flyingfalcons89 1 month ago
Look at Guided Missiles next.
jimdude99 1 month ago
Why dont you play hardcore ?
Dark1Masta 1 month ago
Worst pronunciation of "aluminum" I've ever heard hahahahahaha.
TheDillsterr 1 month ago
Thanks man, keep it up...
tyleradominick 1 month ago
yess!
MxHQAZTEK 1 month ago
Love the know your unlock series. Keep it up!!! :]
Hotshoot911 1 month ago
yay been waiting for an ecm jammer vid, ty
kaneissik 1 month ago
This....is luetin.
Epwnaz 1 month ago