Thanks, Joy! I am glad that there are others who agree with my position on this! Spanking IS hitting. I know, some of you have lived through it (so have I), but this is NOT a reason to continue this.
@35up You said it. I'd love to know how many people that think spanking is so horrible even have kids. lol When they have to deal with them, they'll change their minds.
My parents spanked me. Not horrific, not enough to leave a mark or a bruise, but a small slap on the hand or the bottom is plenty to communicate your point to a child. I don't fear or resent my parents, it only happened once in a while, and I am not in any way negatively impacted by it now as an adult.
agreed, human children are still humans, just because they are children doesn't mean they are subjected to an entirely different consciousness than adult humans. They learn from what you do to them, how you treat them, and they become adult humans in time
first of all anyone who takes advice from joy behar is just dumb. second... i was spanked as a child and i am fine. You cant get the point across to a child by just pointing your finger and saying that was wrong dont do that again johnny. for actions there are consequences and spanking is a way to teach that concept
I don't see the point of spanking children, I don't think you should need to in order to raise them. Also, I didn't know that much better when I was younger and it takes patience. Of course everyone has a breaking point but parents are the one's in charge. By the way, my mother also sacrificed a lot for us!
I was very attatched to my mom aswell. My mom believes you can't really hit someone when you're calm because when i saw my neighbour get hit, the parent was mad that they were being naughty. I'm not saying that hitting always teaches people to be fearful. But my mom smacked my face, ONE time, and it totally shocked the hell out of me, but it was one occasion i got so mad i went to hit my sister and then i realised I was wrong.
Well I don't know what works for anybody, but my mom has never hit me or spanked me. I remember my neighbours being so, and it always seemed kind of wrong to be a guest in their house and watch it. However, I don't think you should hit kids cause it's just painful and unneccesary. I learned to be respectful, I don't fail class, I don't pick on people and never bullied anybody. And I am nearly 16 by the way. But I highly respect my mom for being there and opening her heart.
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO JOY! I agree with every stitch of everything you said. There is a tremendous amount bitterness and confusion around this issue. I wrote a book to help combat ALL THE NONSENSE around spanking children. We can do better and those of us who know this have a big task of handling the minds of others who don't think this way. THANK YOU FOR THINKING THIS WAY AND FOR PROMOTING IT TO YOUR WORLDWIDE AUDIANCE!
I don't care if I get thumbs down for this, but I'm old school when it comes to discipline. I'm sick of these people giving advice on anything and everything because it worked for them. I got spankings as a child, NOT ABUSED! Do I fear my mother, as a 21 year old, if I step wrong? HELL YES! Do I resent her? HELL NAW! I'm a mommy's girl to the tee! I didn't drop out of high school, I'm not a teen mother, drug addict, heavy drinker, etc.
As a matter of fact, I've never failed a class, I'm in my last year of undergrad, currently finishing school in London after studying abroad there. Because of my upbringing, I learned to respect my elders and everybody as a whole. I love all, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexuality. I learned these from my mother, the same woman who laid hands on me if I ever decided to act a fool. Never did I nor will I ever disrespect my mother. I have the utmost respect for the woman that birthed me!
I'm not here necessarily advocating spankings, but I find no problem with them. BEATING a child for any and every reason is WRONG, BEATING a child until they're black, blue, and bleeding is WRONG! But, I'll be damned if someone tells me I can't spank my OWN child. I was only spanked if I really stepped out of place, NOT for doing innocent kid things. People have all these rules nowadays, and kids/teens are crazier than ever. The shit we see now, you didn't see back in the day. I wonder why?!
You'll have to explain the "lift your mind" thing to me. A child is mostly not responsible for thier action. When the child becomes aware of actions having consequenses, you get the belt just like the rest of us. Fuck this new age garbage.
LOL Yeah, I bet your kids are a real joy to be around. You must be one of those permissive parents that let their kids have temper tantrums in the middle of a store or restaurant and annoy everyone else while you sit there saying "Now, now, honey I love you, please act better"
Reveler21: Are you, actually, saying that children who never get spanked have no idea of what's right and what's wrong? Are you saying that if a child doesn't get spanked they rarely behave? There are 15 countries that have BANNED corporal punishment ... I wonder how the teachers in those countries are managing? And I wonder how the kids in those countries know right from wrong?!! Could they have better teachers in those countries than we have here in the USA?
To Reveler21: Do you ask your students if their parents spank them? Or do you ask the parents of your students if they spank their children? I'm wondering how you know for sure which students are spanked?
I disagree Joy when they get 5 years old they get spanked if they get out of line... Kids who don't get spanked grow up SPOILED! Because they always know they can and will get their way with a little bit of yelling and crying
i was not spanked, i am not spoiled, i guess i just proved your statement "Kids who don't get spanked grow up SPOILED!" to be false, try not making huge generalizations when u think & type
your psychosis make me laugh but i'd rather u evolved into a real human being who didn't think & talk in such a disgusting way, u r sad (Deplorable; sorry: a sad state of affairs; a sad excuse.)
so true, I can never remember being spanked, but this does not mean I was spoiled... my parents just used other forms of punishment. Plus what does hitting your child teach them? that when you get angry or mad at someone you can hit them and everything will be alright?
@JezzieLS, EXCELLENT POINT... "what does hitting your child teach them? that when you get angry or mad at someone you can hit them and everything will be alright?"
@oeufgwoieu spanking and hitting are two different acts one is used for reproof and the other is abuse,i was spanked and i turned out just fine. you spank your kids because you love them not because you hate them . its meaner to spoil your kids than to discipline them.Just telling your child NO doesnt always work and you have to keep them safe its you responsibility.as a parent.
That sounds like an over simplified characterization of what spanking really is...
..Example:.
In the adult world, if someone tries to invade a country and take their oil, they should be dealt with by using force... Spanking executed correctly, would be somewhat similar to that, but on a smaller scale... (If a child grabs a little girls toy, and pushes her down, he deserves a spanking)
It's refreshing to hear someone of Joy's generation speak out against spanking children. I'm middle aged and I believe there are better ways to discipline children.
Parents who spank have given up on other options. There simply are no reasons to spank a child, only excuses.
Spanking kids teaches them by example that it's okay to respond to conflict, disagreement or provocation by lashing out. The only "good" it ever does is relieve the parent's frustration. It doesn't help the child. It hurts the kid, teaches fear and anxiety, and causes the child trouble handling his own problems later. Better to model good conflict resolution skills by thinking through problems like she suggests.
I completely disagree. As a teacher, I can tell you that the kids who are most behaved and understand right and wrong, are those who are spanked by their parents.
Reveler21 no one can know who is spanked or not. And if a parent tells you, you, as a mandated reporter, you should turn them in for manhandling and physically abusing their kids.
She's absolutely right! Any form of domestic corporal punishment teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable way to get your point across. If you're not smart enough to teach your kids proper behavior without hitting them, then you should be sterilized.
I was spanked and I don't think putting your hands on people is okay. If you say that, then it should be fine to say 'people who don't get spanked grow up spoiled.' Which isn't true either. My mother is one of the most loving, caring, and understanding people I know. So I take offense to your comment. I've only been in two fights, and that was the 5th and 6th grade, and that was in defense from being bullied. I've never been disrespectful, and didn't understand those that were, even as a kid.
Now, as a person that's never been in trouble, can you actually call me a violent person? Because I fit your observation as a person that's been whooped. My mother is the same woman who did everything to make my brother and I comfortable and happy. There were days where my mom didn't eat to feed us, so we were nice and full. And a funny story, the first time my mom spanked me, I was 3. She told me she cried, & my 3 year old self hugged her, & said it'll be ok.
@itsokcasey and thats why children are the way they are today. Doing whatever they want with no consequences, thats why you have children who run the household and their parents are afraid of them, children committing crimes at a younger age. but ur right they shouldn't be punished... (sarcasm)
It's not just you though..I can think of someone else that advocated senseless/inhumane sterilization... His name was Adolf Hitler
Spanking is not about "hitting" to get ones point across..It is to be meted out by a mature adult in instances when the child engages in behaviour that endagers the health and/or well-being of themselves or others...
Behar made the common mistake of equating spanking with abuse or intemperate violence......
Good woman, show em' how it's done!
puppieeyes223 1 week ago
Thanks, Joy! I am glad that there are others who agree with my position on this! Spanking IS hitting. I know, some of you have lived through it (so have I), but this is NOT a reason to continue this.
ganderseable 2 weeks ago
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SuperMegaUberGenius 3 months ago
@35up You said it. I'd love to know how many people that think spanking is so horrible even have kids. lol When they have to deal with them, they'll change their minds.
TexDad1971 8 months ago
of course a white person would say this....
BabyGirlGoddess 8 months ago
@BabyGirlGoddess I was just thinking that.
MrJjjwilliam 7 months ago
Joy Behar is just jealous and wishes someone would spank her old ass.
FastPonyGT 11 months ago 2
ahh liberals.... such wussies
soulsurge84 1 year ago 4
My parents spanked me. Not horrific, not enough to leave a mark or a bruise, but a small slap on the hand or the bottom is plenty to communicate your point to a child. I don't fear or resent my parents, it only happened once in a while, and I am not in any way negatively impacted by it now as an adult.
Just one woman's experience, but there you go.
discord20 1 year ago
agreed, human children are still humans, just because they are children doesn't mean they are subjected to an entirely different consciousness than adult humans. They learn from what you do to them, how you treat them, and they become adult humans in time
xxSpearMonkeyxx 1 year ago
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MONIQUEIJ 1 year ago
@MONIQUEIJ lol for all the stuff that kid is GONNA do.
TexDad1971 8 months ago
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MONIQUEIJ 8 months ago
@TexDad1971 I figured ya were. Just thought I'd add to it. :-)
TexDad1971 8 months ago
The ONE thing I agree or have ever like from this woman. I agree. No hitting.
utubeuser1971aok 1 year ago
I agree with her. Spanking teaches one thing... If you don't like what someone is doing, use physical violence to stop it.
chadpopstar 1 year ago
yeah Joy!
aaa333ify 1 year ago
first of all anyone who takes advice from joy behar is just dumb. second... i was spanked as a child and i am fine. You cant get the point across to a child by just pointing your finger and saying that was wrong dont do that again johnny. for actions there are consequences and spanking is a way to teach that concept
danielcooper0086 1 year ago
I don't see the point of spanking children, I don't think you should need to in order to raise them. Also, I didn't know that much better when I was younger and it takes patience. Of course everyone has a breaking point but parents are the one's in charge. By the way, my mother also sacrificed a lot for us!
Bonsbooty 2 years ago
I was very attatched to my mom aswell. My mom believes you can't really hit someone when you're calm because when i saw my neighbour get hit, the parent was mad that they were being naughty. I'm not saying that hitting always teaches people to be fearful. But my mom smacked my face, ONE time, and it totally shocked the hell out of me, but it was one occasion i got so mad i went to hit my sister and then i realised I was wrong.
Bonsbooty 2 years ago
Well I don't know what works for anybody, but my mom has never hit me or spanked me. I remember my neighbours being so, and it always seemed kind of wrong to be a guest in their house and watch it. However, I don't think you should hit kids cause it's just painful and unneccesary. I learned to be respectful, I don't fail class, I don't pick on people and never bullied anybody. And I am nearly 16 by the way. But I highly respect my mom for being there and opening her heart.
Bonsbooty 2 years ago
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO JOY! I agree with every stitch of everything you said. There is a tremendous amount bitterness and confusion around this issue. I wrote a book to help combat ALL THE NONSENSE around spanking children. We can do better and those of us who know this have a big task of handling the minds of others who don't think this way. THANK YOU FOR THINKING THIS WAY AND FOR PROMOTING IT TO YOUR WORLDWIDE AUDIANCE!
asadah8 2 years ago
I don't care if I get thumbs down for this, but I'm old school when it comes to discipline. I'm sick of these people giving advice on anything and everything because it worked for them. I got spankings as a child, NOT ABUSED! Do I fear my mother, as a 21 year old, if I step wrong? HELL YES! Do I resent her? HELL NAW! I'm a mommy's girl to the tee! I didn't drop out of high school, I'm not a teen mother, drug addict, heavy drinker, etc.
hellokittycutie2003 2 years ago 2
As a matter of fact, I've never failed a class, I'm in my last year of undergrad, currently finishing school in London after studying abroad there. Because of my upbringing, I learned to respect my elders and everybody as a whole. I love all, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexuality. I learned these from my mother, the same woman who laid hands on me if I ever decided to act a fool. Never did I nor will I ever disrespect my mother. I have the utmost respect for the woman that birthed me!
hellokittycutie2003 2 years ago
I'm not here necessarily advocating spankings, but I find no problem with them. BEATING a child for any and every reason is WRONG, BEATING a child until they're black, blue, and bleeding is WRONG! But, I'll be damned if someone tells me I can't spank my OWN child. I was only spanked if I really stepped out of place, NOT for doing innocent kid things. People have all these rules nowadays, and kids/teens are crazier than ever. The shit we see now, you didn't see back in the day. I wonder why?!
hellokittycutie2003 2 years ago
wow, what a random reference to Descartes!
alSation81 2 years ago
hahahahahah
I'm laughing because I'm 15 and understand why kids do need to be spanked...
When I was a 'lil one' I was hell. Parents spank me, I learn not to be hell.
My little cousin, now 8 years old, has never been spanked ever. He slept over at my place and knew curse words, tried kicking me etc.
FUCKING HELL, all this because some retarded 20 - 40 year olds think its abuse..
PS: bring back the death penalty, I watch too much crime and I strongly want the death penalty.
iMckellar 2 years ago
ur comment said it all
U URSELF SAID U ARE 15 so technically u are a baby to be able to give an opinion about this kind of topics
so when u are 20-40 year old come back here and tell us if u still think u should spank lil kids
karam8816 2 years ago
lol, freedom of speech.
iMckellar 2 years ago
u cant; have freedom of speech , abuse and death penalty all in one concept hehehe
u should be spanked for saying dumb things right now heheheh
karam8816 2 years ago
You'll have to explain the "lift your mind" thing to me. A child is mostly not responsible for thier action. When the child becomes aware of actions having consequenses, you get the belt just like the rest of us. Fuck this new age garbage.
pmz1981 2 years ago 2
She should spank that Goldberg woman. Probably be the closet thing to sex she could get.
curlybobz 2 years ago
Your uncle Louie should have been spanked, then he wouldnt throw food at Olive Garden
dashielj 2 years ago
I spank therefore I am ? I bet the one year sounds smarter than that .
curlybobz 2 years ago
spanking = abuse
JezzieLS 2 years ago
I'll tell you what Joy, I'll raise MY kids how I see fit and you keep your big Jew nose out of it, mind your own buisness and go fuck yourself.
Lfdjake91 2 years ago
SHE'S NOT JEWISH! GAH!
DeepLionel 2 years ago
Joy sounds like she is READING.
shibamatachick 2 years ago
NO! It's not just you.
Spanking is another word for assault. And it has no business in childrearing.
borissabee 2 years ago 2
LOL Yeah, I bet your kids are a real joy to be around. You must be one of those permissive parents that let their kids have temper tantrums in the middle of a store or restaurant and annoy everyone else while you sit there saying "Now, now, honey I love you, please act better"
Lfdjake91 2 years ago
Reveler21: Are you, actually, saying that children who never get spanked have no idea of what's right and what's wrong? Are you saying that if a child doesn't get spanked they rarely behave? There are 15 countries that have BANNED corporal punishment ... I wonder how the teachers in those countries are managing? And I wonder how the kids in those countries know right from wrong?!! Could they have better teachers in those countries than we have here in the USA?
Raven11847 2 years ago 3
To Reveler21: Do you ask your students if their parents spank them? Or do you ask the parents of your students if they spank their children? I'm wondering how you know for sure which students are spanked?
Raven11847 2 years ago
sing it!
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago
I disagree Joy when they get 5 years old they get spanked if they get out of line... Kids who don't get spanked grow up SPOILED! Because they always know they can and will get their way with a little bit of yelling and crying
jaroncreed 2 years ago
i was not spanked, i am not spoiled, i guess i just proved your statement "Kids who don't get spanked grow up SPOILED!" to be false, try not making huge generalizations when u think & type
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago 2
yea you just grew up to be a big pussy, now go back to your little corner little bitch
jaroncreed 2 years ago
your psychosis make me laugh but i'd rather u evolved into a real human being who didn't think & talk in such a disgusting way, u r sad (Deplorable; sorry: a sad state of affairs; a sad excuse.)
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago
Ummm STFU asshole
jaroncreed 2 years ago
how enlightening, please tell me more...
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago
so true, I can never remember being spanked, but this does not mean I was spoiled... my parents just used other forms of punishment. Plus what does hitting your child teach them? that when you get angry or mad at someone you can hit them and everything will be alright?
JezzieLS 2 years ago 2
@JezzieLS, EXCELLENT POINT... "what does hitting your child teach them? that when you get angry or mad at someone you can hit them and everything will be alright?"
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago 9
@oeufgwoieu spanking and hitting are two different acts one is used for reproof and the other is abuse,i was spanked and i turned out just fine. you spank your kids because you love them not because you hate them . its meaner to spoil your kids than to discipline them.Just telling your child NO doesnt always work and you have to keep them safe its you responsibility.as a parent.
prime440 10 months ago 2
@prime440 i agree
oeufgwoieu 10 months ago
@prime440 well said.
TexDad1971 8 months ago
@oeufgwoieu
That sounds like an over simplified characterization of what spanking really is...
..Example:.
In the adult world, if someone tries to invade a country and take their oil, they should be dealt with by using force... Spanking executed correctly, would be somewhat similar to that, but on a smaller scale... (If a child grabs a little girls toy, and pushes her down, he deserves a spanking)
grateful1 3 months ago
@oeufgwoieu
- it teaches them not to do it again?
TheCelebBubble 2 months ago
It's refreshing to hear someone of Joy's generation speak out against spanking children. I'm middle aged and I believe there are better ways to discipline children.
Parents who spank have given up on other options. There simply are no reasons to spank a child, only excuses.
thursdaysrecords 2 years ago
Spanking kids teaches them by example that it's okay to respond to conflict, disagreement or provocation by lashing out. The only "good" it ever does is relieve the parent's frustration. It doesn't help the child. It hurts the kid, teaches fear and anxiety, and causes the child trouble handling his own problems later. Better to model good conflict resolution skills by thinking through problems like she suggests.
Discipline teaches. Spanking retaliates.
waxsculpture 2 years ago 2
I completely disagree. As a teacher, I can tell you that the kids who are most behaved and understand right and wrong, are those who are spanked by their parents.
Reveler21 2 years ago
is your OPINION based on actual verifiable research? because i'm pretty sure u r full of shit
oeufgwoieu 2 years ago 2
I think he/she is full of shit
spanking should be considered child abuse
JezzieLS 2 years ago
Reveler21 no one can know who is spanked or not. And if a parent tells you, you, as a mandated reporter, you should turn them in for manhandling and physically abusing their kids.
borissabee 2 years ago
She's absolutely right! Any form of domestic corporal punishment teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable way to get your point across. If you're not smart enough to teach your kids proper behavior without hitting them, then you should be sterilized.
itsokcasey 2 years ago 14
I was spanked and I don't think putting your hands on people is okay. If you say that, then it should be fine to say 'people who don't get spanked grow up spoiled.' Which isn't true either. My mother is one of the most loving, caring, and understanding people I know. So I take offense to your comment. I've only been in two fights, and that was the 5th and 6th grade, and that was in defense from being bullied. I've never been disrespectful, and didn't understand those that were, even as a kid.
hellokittycutie2003 2 years ago
Now, as a person that's never been in trouble, can you actually call me a violent person? Because I fit your observation as a person that's been whooped. My mother is the same woman who did everything to make my brother and I comfortable and happy. There were days where my mom didn't eat to feed us, so we were nice and full. And a funny story, the first time my mom spanked me, I was 3. She told me she cried, & my 3 year old self hugged her, & said it'll be ok.
Does that sound like abuse?
hellokittycutie2003 2 years ago
@itsokcasey and thats why children are the way they are today. Doing whatever they want with no consequences, thats why you have children who run the household and their parents are afraid of them, children committing crimes at a younger age. but ur right they shouldn't be punished... (sarcasm)
Stephanie128 1 year ago
@Stephanie128 There are methods other than hitting (see Super Nanny, for example).
somespareid 1 year ago
@itsokcasey
Your posting sounds so judgmental...
It's not just you though..I can think of someone else that advocated senseless/inhumane sterilization... His name was Adolf Hitler
Spanking is not about "hitting" to get ones point across..It is to be meted out by a mature adult in instances when the child engages in behaviour that endagers the health and/or well-being of themselves or others...
Behar made the common mistake of equating spanking with abuse or intemperate violence......
grateful1 3 months ago
she needs to NOT say fetishes if she WANTS alot of ratings.
she is saying dont spank your child let a kick boxer do it instead, is that what Im feeling here?
AWOLFNAMEMARTI 2 years ago