Jamie Leigh Jones - KBR Gang Rape MSNBC Dan Abrams Dec-17-07

[fuckamerica109]

@nowhinerbabies why are you saying this

[nowhinerbabies]

@fuckamerica109 I may have read you wrong and I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but your username says a lot so it's difficult to take you serious. But if you mean that this should not happen to anyone of any nation or ethnicity than that I agree with...if that's what you meant. I cannot see how any human being can condone this for any other human being no matter what the circumstances and I hope you agree with that.

[vj198]

@wfran15

henry kissinger said it!..he´s not ignorant

[fuckamerica109]

this is nothing compared to what they are doing to the people of iraq

[ahsumbro]

What an awesome, strong girl. She is willing to face criticism and humiliation to expose the most shameful of American firms. I hope she gets the justice she deserves.

[BethanyCharlene]

This is the MOST insensitive reporter I have ever seen, I am appalled by his lack of compassion..

[bigtexansfan]

If this case doesn't show what sick sadistic greedy fucks republicans are I don't know what does. These are the fuckers that think they will take back control in November, all of this is coming back to bite them in the ass.

[wfran15]

@bigtexansfan Little confused on your argument that insinuates that the Republican party advocates the rape and brutalization of an American citizen. Could you explain your rationale without dropping any generic Cheney ran Halliburton, is the only figurehead of the Republican party and supports rape? 

[bigtexansfan]

@wfran15 They voted against a bill that say basically says it's not ok for wealthy multi-national corporations to condone gang raping women and locking them in shipping containers. I'd say that pretty says if you're NOT against it then you're FOR IT.

[lackinghairstyl]

movie makes sense when they were checking the sites pretty controversial war - made for a decent movie not great - latest RElease movies -dot -com

[PheesKMPAccount]

I hate Republicans. Wrong on every issue. They always take the side of corporations the eilites over the average person. This is just one more egrigious example. The whole party should be declared an enemy internal organization. Shame on any American who votes for these pigs.

[zelvadrian]

It's about time men who don't rape get violent with the men who do!! Call me a vigilante if you want to.

[aldenbuzz]

Republicans had problems with Acorn, but 30 of them voted against Al Franken's bill to protect against this kind of thing happening again by employees such as these KBR gang rapists?

[AnonBrat]

meowmeow person - rape is about control and power. making the excuse that because the asswipes that raped did so because they were without is a pile of bunk. how do you KNOW they would not have done it on their own? Plenty of men can be drunk around women and NOT rape them. Obviously these men are missing a key element of goodness.

and lumping all men together into your annoying, generalized, little theory is a load of sh*t. there are plenty of men who are real men and do not need to rape.

[meowmeowkitty3]

Do you really think these guys who raped her weren't taught any differently than you?

[meowmeowkitty3]

rape is universal, and found in ALL groups...

[meowmeowkitty3]

Sorry, I don't. They are not thinking. All they want is to get their rocks off, that's it. They don't care whom they hurt, all that matters is they have a hole. It's opportunity. Any port in a storm. And this poor lady had to be on the receiving end. Sad tale

[meowmeowkitty3]

Rasha, you're 19 and I assume you haven't had much experience. A man's penis is not connected to his reasoning. The minute 'it' goes up, his brain shuts off.

[dylantuzyk]

You're beyond retarded if you think that's the case.

[meowmeowkitty3]

And your a gaping asshole who lives in a fantasy world. You think that this is an isolated incident or these men are truly out of the ordinary? They are not. You need to study the subject of rape, and gang rape before you start talking about "understanding". Would these men had raped her if she wasn't the only woman and they hadn't been screwed in months, I truly doubt it. HB put her in a dangerous situation. Do you think that some how the company shouldn't be held responsible?

[dylantuzyk]

For every rapist there were about a hundred guys who were somehow capable of keeping their dicks in their pants. The problem here is that they were assholes, not that they were men. I feel like I have some sort of understanding on the subject of how men think considering I am one.

The company should be held responsible for refusing to give the woman a proper trial, but that's it. Last time I checked being surrounded by guys isn't an inherently dangerous position.

[meowmeowkitty3]

Police Say Dozen People Watched Calif. Gang Rape watch that on youtube.  It's mob mentality. These guys would not have done it if they were alone, and most likely would not have done it if they were sober. Horrible, horrible thing. I think the girl in the richmond rape had it much worse.

[dylantuzyk]

Let me get this straight: You think they raped someone because

b) They were in a group, and

c) They were drunk.

I have personally been both at the same time and somehow have managed to have never raped anyone. The same can be said for millions of men across the planet.

These guys gang raped and assaulted this woman BECAUSE THEY'RE ASSHOLES. Alcohol doesn't turn you into a rapist, as anyone who's ever been drunk can attest. Other guys don't turn you into a rapist.

It was their fault, period.

[meowmeowkitty3]

yes, it was their fault. But the alcohol and group element contributed to it. You can keep saying "I" will never do it, but for those millions of men who haven't participated in a gang rape, their are thousands more who have. Alcohol contributed, absolutely. Obviously, alcohol did contribute to these women's rapes. I think you need to examine the idea behind mob mentality and gang rape because you live in a world where you judge everyone by your own actions, and that is flawed.

[arkangel8419]

that might have been a little extreme but the point of that was to get it across to them to know what it feels like to have the parents of a beutiful girl druged raped beaten and anally raped while she was trying to do her job serving her country

[Myschly]

"Multiple sources have told the Huffington Post that Sen. Dan Inouye, a longtime Democrat from Hawaii, is considering removing or altering the provision, which was offered by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and passed by the Senate several weeks ago."

He's being bought by the Defense contractors. Has he heard her story? Doesn't he care? He's just as bad as the 30 senators who voted against Sen. Al Frankens bill.

If Inouye is your senator, give him a call or send him a letter. This is a disgrace

[truestyleoutlaw]

wow ... bruises and disfigurations all over her body...wtf's wrong with these assholes?

[numnunums]

It must be torture to have this drag out like this for her. Those people need to go down.

[grit123]

That's fucked up.

[pongman]

Dick Cheney must be a real mother to have been in charge of this company.

[BrownandRoot]

@pongman All charges dropped against "the accused men" . Google" jury-clears-kbr-of-rape". Hey Jamie, how are your breast implants? She sued KBR to have them redone....seriously....how can people defend this woman....There has been no prosecution of her "attackers"? She is a disgrace and is being pimped by anyone looking for a payout or with a grudge against Halliburton. Next time you go to a warzone, check you implants, t-tops, and daisy dukes at the door. Its a war, not a party...

[annata12]

i would fucking kill them i wouldn't care if i spend the rest of my life in prison

[Foolhollow]

Amen.

Punishment is due.

[rushindulen]

Lesson of the day: Never trust republicans. They're hypocritical, anti-american, rapists.

[FatherChrismas]

I'm a Democrat, but I've sometimes voted for Maine's two Republican Senators (Snowe & Collins), who showed good sense by voting with Franken to pass S.Amdt.2588 to H.R. 3326 against Halliburton.

[meboswell1]

Well hopefully, those former male coworkers will all spend time in prison and will get properly treated in prison! I would say they deserve 40 years to life!

[chervilant]

Thank GOD there remains a COURT in this nation that has the compassion, the honor, and the ethics to allow this brave woman to pursue justice, and to hold Halliburton and her rapists accountable for their crimes!

[MomDawg057]

Jamie Sweetie,

I hope these men do about 20 yrs., plus you get a nice fat settlement that will keep you & yours carefree for many years to come and I Hope one day you'll be able to put this to rest.

[Gummy20081234]

Power to you Jamie Leigh standing up for justice. I support you!! You are an excellant role model for young woman everywhere. Peace & Justice for all!!

[sguardian870]

fuck u bastard i hope ur mother and child get raped by 8 men each

[jadewuzlyke]

sguardian870 - I don't know who you're talking about, but if you're talking about the rapists or some sick supporter of rape, you should be hoping that THEY get raped.

Do NOT EVER, EVER wish for someone's mother or children to be gang raped, you sick fuck.

[cusanusnicolas]

this is unusual? don't ask what yer gummint can do fer you...

[tonyjohnbradley]

My GOD! I pray there is a hell for guys like that. It's hard to imagine that there would be 7 guys like that in the world, let alone in one room.

[Foolhollow]

Americans nonetheless.

[jaba987]

this is insane

[bluegrrl70]

omg. wtf? they ripped her pectoral muscles loose? raped vaginally, anally and has her breasts ripped loose, and have the nerve to suggest that she consented to that??

and they locked HER up in some storage container like an animal with no rights?

what fucking lunacy. an we're the liberators in Iraq, committing exactly the same crimes against our own that we profess a need to save Iraqis from? wow.

[weedipikia]

This is terrible, I'm amazed at her strength. If I was raped by 7 guys I might never be able to smile again. Maybe it's slightly different for women, I don't know.

[PhuqueU]

Ever notice the sickening smirk on the face of Donald Rumsfield?  Oops wrong video.

[arkangel8419]

I hope one day the men that posted those comments have daughters that go through sumthing like this and are portrayed through the media as lying whores.............

[arkangel8419]

I feel srry for the mothers who have sons that are posting comments like the ones in this blog you dont know if this is true or not neither do i but lets review She worked for KBR i doubt she was a PMC making 600-1000$ a day which means she was there for another reason prolly making 750-1500 a day as an engineer or sumthing in her mid 20's i doubt she made up this storry just for money she was making plenty people dont like sex rough enough to need surgery but u saw her laugh she must be lying

[treskall1]

She needed reconstructive surgery, and that's the way she likes it?

"..cuz she is laughing about it."

What was she supposed to do? Cry through her whole interview?

If she enjoyed it she wouldn't press charges.

Do I smell a troll?

[Susieshepherd]

njromeo- you are disgustingly pathetic

[Susieshepherd]

Poor girl - who the fuck did this shit to her?

[OneBlackRose45]

UNBELIEVABLE.

[luvguins]

There is no excuse for rape, anywhere, anytime. Don't even try to excuse it.

[mike23984]

Who on earth would give luvguins comment a thumbs down??? And why can't I give it a thumbs up?

[runningstyles]

International banker/corporate/Bush/skull and bones/illuminati/halliburton/K­BR they all linked. They have concentration camp in the united states, next they be cremaditing people. Creamating u if we dont WAKE UP!

[silencer4101st]

"Unless you are in that situation don't think yourself to do anything differently." Fuck you, frankly I'm better than these men and I don't appreciate you telling me how to think. I'm worlds better than these men. Now if you've been raped I'm sorry for what I said, but you have to realize that your generalizing and frankly being sexist. Simply put there are men with principles like me and men without them like those rapist boys.

[chefawkes]

wow. if the soldiers are raping the females that work with them. imagine what they are doing to the iraqis. scary thought. glad im not an iraqi.

[bobdiver7]

Yeah they are just raping our people...they are torturing and killing other innocent Iraqis.

[weedipikia]

There's a movie about that called Redacted.

[rossyboy1000]

Brave girl. I hope the fucking scum bastards get whats coming to them.Rapists in jail dont hold alot of weight inside.

[SEALs22]

After 2 years and there were no investigations of any kind...

We might as well have a Plan B.. which is

Taking matters into our own hands...

If we want to get something done, we will have to do it ourselves...

[AdyMiles]

I hope they catch the bastards. No way would a woman lose her career and have and talk about such private injuries unless she was genuine

[VitalSigns1]

Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. You can tell she is strong when you look at her.

[User89620]

stronger maybe but definitely more scared and uneasy.

[riverrunRRS]

Listen to her public statement. It's available here: watch?v=U2WyitSWa0Y&feature=re­lated. She makes all the same points.

[cshighway1]

OK, let's see... She may or may not have lied about the rape. But what about the injury? Self-inflicted? If the rape kit and the doctors reports are 'missing,' then where is the good doctor herself? What does she have to say? Or is she afraid as well? Let the investigation move forward until the facts are known to the public.

[beteck123]

And ppl say pastor Wright is unpatriotic if he condems behaviours like this from Americans? God dam America is the first thing that comes to my mind listening to this.

[iamtrav26]

I applaud this woman for speaking out and I hope to god that the bastards that did this to her are caught and are treated similar to the way they treated this woman. Bunch of sick friggin perverts in this world.

[amarsalih]

imagine if this white female soldier was raped by US marines and it took so long to get out... just imagine how many iraqi mothers get raped by american soldiers everyday and the US media wont cover it... because the american soldiers know that they can get away with it in iraq if its against iraqi people cause there is no law and order in iraq... iraq is chaos now...

[IAMDOPED]

the government runs child rape rings and prisons and they dont do anything about it

[lusterwings]

Just imagine, not only did those men rape her, but charges have yet to be pressed upon her rapists!

I wish death upon any rapist!

[Kromwell2005]

First people deal with trauma in their own way to suggest otherwise shows ignorance. You are right about women should not be put in those situation, the company should have screened those men better, and the government should prosecute them to the full extent of the law. That way other men would think twice about creating such situations. Maybe you should read her job description before you start insinuating that the victim was in a mans job where she might be unequal to the task.

[meowmeowkitty3]

whenever you have a bunch of men and no women you have these problems. I just can't believe the company would do NOTHING about this. Why on earth would they put women in these positions? Why do you think the Japanese in WWII had "comfort women"...or the US military regulated prostitution in Hawaii during WWII. Men need an outlet, and I am so sorry this woman had to be it, what they did to her was wrong. Halliburton(?) needs to be held responsible

[xforsakensoulx]

Wow. I cannot believe people really THINK this way. It's not their fault because they didn't provide men proper pussy, its their fault because THEY HAVEN'T DONE SHIT to punish these men. Our own government is protecting them. Guys are not mindless sex machines, they know what they are doing. They should be held fully responsible, as should the company, and our own government.

[meowmeowkitty3]

Sweetheart, you are 17. You have to understand that men with NO outlet will do HORRIBLE things, including taking advantage of women, i.e. rape. Sex is very, very powerful. Rape is recognized in all cultures. This company should have had a better system in place to have kept this kind of thing from happening. And yet nothing has been done to prosecute the company. Shame on our politicians who let these powerful corporations get away with something as sleezy as this.

[mridge01]

Except in Islam, rape victims are usually punished.

[ealshabaan]

learn what is the different between rape and adultery in Islam.

please don't make yourself look stupid.

[brianlover926]

@ealshabaan yes well they say that if the woman is with males who are not her relatives it is against the law in most muslim countries, and so they say that rape is adultery, especially when women only have half the say in court as a man, she never wins and so rape is sometimes covered up by saying that it's adultery

[silencer4101st]

Pardon me, I'm a man, and even if I had no outlet I wouldn't do horrible things. So frankly what you said was an over generalization

[Kromwell2005]

I don't know exactly who you are addressing here "Sweetheart, you are 17" I think you are being seriously condescending to someone. Whether they are 17 or not they obviously know right from wrong. I am a heterosexual man who works very far from home and is afforded very little female contact and no outlet as well. I have no desire to rape. So having "no outlet" does not excuse their actions. I agree that the company should be prosecuted, but the rapists involved should also be held accountable.

[meowmeowkitty3]

Gee, did I say they shouldn't be held accountable? Do you think that these men were like "yeah gang raping an unconscious woman is cool", most likely they have similiar morals to most people when they are able to think straight, but with alcohol and vulnerable women, and the pack mentality taking over, they forgot right and wrong. women shouldn't be put in an environment like that. There is no excuse for what happened whatsoever. HB needs to be held accountable for this.

[lycurgusthelawgiver]

"This is why they call you scum."

[meowmeowkitty3]

"this is why I call you stupid" who are you trying to quote? a retard? Maybe yourself? You sure as hell don't know anything about human nature, and the depths of depravity normal people will go to. Ever heard of the Princess de Lambelle and the fate she suffered? So tell me, what makes seemingly normal people do these things? Huh, retard?

[lycurgusthelawgiver]

Wasn't referring to you. Didn't cite the quote- wasn't sure it was exact (not on google). Upton Sinclair...longer quote something like, "the accumulated filth and scum at the surface is all we see, and most people assume the water underneath is clean. This is why they call you scum. So they can hide their own reflection behind you."

[Kromwell2005]

Well when you imply that they weren't in control of their own actions because of the environment so yes I would say that you definitely implied that they shouldn't be held accountable. Also when you label a woman as "vulnerable" you are implying that equality in the workplace shouldn't extend to these situations. Yes historically rape and war went hand in hand because women were oppressed. We don't live in the past however. And FYI HB is not at war and we aren't talking about soldiers here.

[jadewuzlyke]

meowmeowkitty3 - There are plenty of men that have "NO outlet" and they don't go and rape/assault women. Your excuse is a huge piece of shit. This wasn't about sex. They DISFIGURED her. That's about violence.

[meowmeowkitty3]

It was about sex. What they did was wrong period and uncalled for. My "excuse" is not a big piece of shit. Men need an outlet, and often its women who end up raped. don't you know what happens in prison? Do you think these men would be fucking and raping other men if they had and outlet? They want to assert their domination, but also it's a sexual release.

[arkangel8419]

i dont know man sounds to me like ur somehow trying to justify this, this was a horrible horrible crime and i dont care what kind of outlet u want to call it. these men should be brought home and tried for rape poisoning and a list of other charges

[meowmeowkitty3]

What i'm saying is that there should have been an outlet for these men. Place 1 woman in a group of 100 men who haven't seen a woman for 8 months is asking for trouble. Raping her is wrong, 100%. HB should have been held responsible, for covering this up and placing a woman in this kind of situation. I'm terribly sorry she went through this, but any woman doing the job she was doing would have most likely had this happen as well. Terrible, terrible thing.

[dylantuzyk]

IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, THEY'RE MEN AND THEY HAVE NEEDS

No sex, boo fucking hoo, that's what masturbation is for.

I realize that there's a difference between understanding behaviour and excusing it, but in this case even your understanding is very flawed. Men aren't sex maniacs. They can and do practice self control.

[meowmeowkitty3]

then tell it to the dudes in prison. Can and do practice self control? Where, in church?

[TheBgoz]

@meowmeowkitty3 if you place 1 woman in a group of 100 men who are NORMAL, regardless of whether or not they have seen a woman for any period of time, isn't asking for trouble. men aren't horrible, sex-crazed creatures - only a tiny portion of them are.

[meowmeowkitty3]

no one is arguing that, they should be tried and punished. HB should be sued, and these guys brought to trial.

[brianlover926]

@meowmeowkitty3 you do know that rape is very very rarely about sex, right?(and those men who rape other prisoners do so to show their dominance over the "weaker" inmates, not just to get their rocks off) rape is about power and control..Jamie had already been experiencing harassment by the men and they were not drunk then nor probably always in groups. that behaviour shows that they already did not respect her and wanted to show their superiority over her...the rape was the final result

[beteck123]

Theres no excuse for rape.They do it just for the sake of evil,no such thing as a man cant stay without a woman for,i dont know,but less than a year for they get rotated

[brianlover926]

@meowmeowkitty3 just so you know the japenese comfort women were slaves taken from other countries for the Japanese, mostly from other asian countries. so those women? yeah, used as sex slaves, rape vessels. ain't it sweet? i love how you don't know anything

[stuartarticles]

The previous post is sick. I wonder if this were his sister, (it is a him) if he would make such a stupid comment. Like rape is some sort of sick joke..

..Rape is as much a joke, as is cancer. I have had cancer and... it is not joke.

[Banghouse]

It takes one of your own to be brutally raped to understand that this war was a farce to begin with and has nothing to do with terror. LOL.... Americans are fools.

[chervilant]

ANYONE who struggles rhetorically or semantically to place the onus of the act of rape on the individual who is raped should read Against Our Will by Susan Brownmiller. But, don't stop there. Read The Best Kept Secret by Florence Rush. READ ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP YOU GET BEYOND YOUR STULTIFYING IGNORANCE!!!!

[LanysNevelesser]

Search for "Bush on contractors in Iraq" on YouTube. He was asked what he would do to bring the rule of law to these companies in Iraq back in April 2006. He said he'd ask his Secretary of Defense. It's been over a year since then, and he's had two SecDefs to ask. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SIR?

[RosenKrantz666]

this is courage, you murderous rapist mofo that allowed this type of situation occur. every conflict this type of shit happens, worse in an occupation. vietnam, the us army hired hookers to please men. anally raped- too much DP porn watching assholes these days, had to do it, fuckn loons. more reason never to integrate female into combat. FU to all PC mofos. that's a fact. What a brave woman. so much pain guised in that detached demeanor. We all wish you well.

[LanysNevelesser]

This wasn't the military. The military learned its lessons from Vietnam. The mercenary companies that have sprung up since...haven't.

She didn't even go out there to fight. She went to work computers.

[bigbadmuthafukkah]

They killed Pat Tillman. Now they're raping our soldiers. This is what Americans mean by "support the troops". No wonder America is falling apart. Hahahahaaa!

[murrayhall]

You have to be impressed with this woman... Despite all that she has been subjected to, she continues to fight with tenacity and integrity. She's one of the most courageous Americans to have come home from Iraq- what a contrast to the cowardly scum who violated her! What KBR has done to defame America, this American woman is fighting to restore it. GO JAMIE LEIGH, GO!!!

[WTC7WasPulled]

Fuckin scum in Iraq. The whole Iraq war is built on lies and the false flag inside job of 9/11.

9/11 was a controlled demo inside job. Watch "Loose Change"

[AmericanPolitix]

The only good thing is that she doesn't remember anything. That is good for her so that she can sleep nights without these horrible memories. If KBR is saying there are inconsistencies, then WHY did they destroy her rape test kit, or why are they withholding this evidence? Because it's incriminating, that's why! I hope they can prosecute this case once the Bush regime is out of the White House!

[AmericanPolitix]

This is so OUTRAGEOUS!!! Halliburton is a corrupt corp. and should have been CLOSED years ago! The Bush regime is also corrupt and should have been IMPEACHED immediately upon Pelosi becoming Speaker! Bush and cheney are so corrupt and tried to cover up this story by fobidding this young lady and justice! And these ANIMALS who did this need to be given the DEATH PENALTY when found guilty of these RAPE charges!!!

[777castro777]

TORTURE, MUDER and now RAPE, it is apparent that private contractors in IRAQ are out control and are not only committing crimes against the IRAQI people but against AMERICAN CITIZENS. I hope that the evidence in the JAMIE LEIGH JONES'S case is SECURED so it's not destroyed like the TORTURE TAPES. I hope that JAMIE AND THE OTHER VICTIMS OF HELLIBURTON/KBR AND BLACK WATER GET JUSTICE.