A few years ago I fell for the bullshit from the likes of Destini. Eventually I woke up and realised a simple truth of life: we all need to put food on the table. Some can do that through legitimate means, others can't. The ones that can't are often storytellers who make up crap for gullible people to swallow. I'm pleased to say I'm a lot more sceptical now.
Yea, i was infected be the money, is like a virus the money, that enter in your head and you can't get out, is like a real virus, money money money money, oh shit >_<
@deltaoleg The only thing desteni is really doing is selling a product-and promising everyone a better future.
Desteni do not use their resources to help the world,they do not support any groups that already try to change the world...And besides talking and repeating the same thing over and over again,desteni does nothing at all.
The idea of desteni is about equality and ones,yet they do nothing to gain it-they just "believe" that if they think everyone is equal,then suddenly all the problemsEnd
Humans are just stupid,so you can shove the entire"way the world works" up your business! since the result today is a very VERY distorted world!
Now...The Desteni group spreads an idea that is suppose to be good-YET,their problem is TOO many conflicted ideas,no actual activity to change things,and they focus on "believing" that it will all work.
Overall,it feels like they are raping the concept of"changing the world"Because they only focus on spreading their idea-they do not help anyone at all.
They claim to want to rid of current money systems YET they want your REAL money in order to institute a better system of their own... They refuse to ask any of the thought provoking questions about their system. Ask them what they would do about an unstable man who ends up killing someone, you will not get a straight answer!... They are unrealistic, scamers, and or nutcases! They also want you to get a microchip implanted into your skin...
@OooHesGood Yes...they got lots of ideas that are conflicted with each other-and they got no base for anything,no real plan...no real anything.
Also,they do avoid answering,they only direct you to buy their products.
I see that they are not true because the way they function is just too messy,too inner conflicted,and they are busy saying "why you want to pick OUR way" instead of "what we actually do",also...they reject any new ideas,they reject every outside opinion...They are only a commercial.
i have another question for you, if the man since the very begining has nothing (as posesions) how others can have more than others since the begining? it doesnt make sense, desteni is givinga solution at least, you are just saying, dont do nothing, the world is perfect as it is, then if its so perfect, why you have to protect yourself from being brainwash?
Hi there. Great news. Not sure if you heard about it already, but YouTube has taken down the DesteniProductions, DesteniProdDemons, BernardPoolman and DesteniMoney channels, as well as 3000+ Desteni videos! For violations of various youtube guidelines. Further steps are being taken to take this destructive movement down. Best, S.
I just find it funny that they keep blaming society for causing all of the death, poverty ect. in this world and saying that we aren't doing anything about it... Well, what exactly are they doing to make this world better as we speak? All Desteni is are ideas.
Where is the proof?
Where is the contribution?
I dont see any of them making a difference in this world
It seems to me that they're just putting the blame on us while they sit there and feel better about themselves.
They talk about freedom of speech while they block the easiest questions... They talk about brainwashing while they can hardly read a book... They talk about equality in a moneymaking system? Whats equal in making money? Whats the meaning of money when its equal?
Desteni are having a dayjob in giving eachother thumbsup and dislike everything wich goes against it. (many videos against desteni have the same rate of dislikes... they don't listen to it at all)
@zumobster Yeah, I just watched a video from Maya Harel, and she claims that once they reach 1000,000 people, the people at the "upper tiers" will place them selves under the people at the lowest teir, making an Equal Money Cycle The problem with this? 1 10 100 1000 10000 100000 1000000 The top six tiers have all of 111,111 people in it, little more than 10% of One Million
Now someone comes with an anser, and you disgrace them. Think about what destini is truely pruposing. It is not there brainwash look back to jesus christ.
Dude... you really need a superhero costume... that might make your arguments seem better. You twisted the actual information for your own egotistical act. Its not even remotely close!!! Try facing yourself. It fascinating how you really think you know everything and think you are 'ALL WISE'. You should start your own cult maybe... see how many followers you can get lol.
Desteni seem okay on the surface, but what is behind it? Look closer. Once you have fully grasped everything, like all disinformation packages, they have you in their grip by the 99% feasable and good parts, then you're in their program, game over. Desteni are fools because they've all been fooled by the same tactics from higher sources. The process is all about washing the brain/psyche clean, so that these people become empty vessels - empty to be filled with NWO ideology.
desteni is not equality ! they feel superior towards u, and when u have another opinion ur out, and as quick as lightening the whole chainreaction of their puppetry, and before u know, ur blocked by people u don't even know. they're freaks. they're dangerous. u can only stay if u become a robot of poolman.
@secondbible It's been a loooong time since I was familiar with desteni material, but I remember having an argument on the desteni channel about some concept of theres about combingin everyone into one entity. The specifics I can't remember but it was so hilarious to tell the person running the channel that I will forever refuse to stand "equal as one as all creation" or something like that. Thus ruining their overall goal.
hey i dont like what destini is doing either, but from the way you speak you havent even researched trances or multi dementions. and according to your definition of insanity einstien was crazy, da vinci was crazy, jfk was crazy, mlk was crazy.
insanity as defined by my own self is the inability to deal with your created perception.
the more I listen the more I figure out! you are a completely reason driven being. you are the defender of this system which is enslaving you! I understand your carefulness ... I really do. BUT you need to know that you are MASSIVELY MISSINTERPRETING their statements -> listen here: to "stop all participation" equals and means = that we are allowing "them" (this system) to enslave us ... so STOP allowing "them" to enslave YOU!! please my friend with all respect! widen your mind for your own sake
sabot96 -> please with all due respect ... ASK YOURSELF! why do you think they want to change us? WHY? THE REASON? do you see where this world is going when we are the way we are? can't you see? THIS WORLD AND WE ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER BS -> what we are doing IS wrong!!! there is just no other way than to erase the ego driven beings for this world to heal!!! please answer me ... perhaps I am wrong BUT this is A FACT!!!
Man, in all love that I've got I have to say your video is good BUT you ramble too much. Without counting I think you propably said something like fourty times of word 'carbage' or 'nonsense'. It is not constructive. Please present your ideas without all the demining of other ideas and if you see something wrong with other idea, don't just use a word 'nonsense' or 'carbage'. Say WHY it is what you think! Also you seem to be very scared of losing your ego. Don't be, it will not kill you.
I have another question for this egg head, Why are your videos so stupid? You're probably asking yourself "Well , why are you watching them." Don't even say it egg head, I only watched 2, this being the second, and believe me when I say I'm done, but of course not without letting you know how retarded your videos are.
@greenjack792 Typical Destini drone goes on the attack, calling him names?! Why are you so angry I thought as a Destonian you would have abandoned emotions? Your anger will grow, as your channel has been shut down as it was clearly a marketing ploy for Bernard Poolman and more and more people are seeing Destini for the cult that it is.
@greenjack792 You expect me to believe you see anyone has equal?
The problem with desteni is that they forget that other ideas even exist...So,they only answer to other opinions by either deleting them,puking words that are suppose to insult at them,and never really trying to listen,
My ideas actually go to true equality,and to a better world,yet for some reason Desteni refuse to listen to me,because they believe that I'm brainwashed?
Wait...but I already believe in equality,So whata heck?
If you are in there group u must not share your opinion cuz u will be deleted, u must not have emotions... desteni is brainwashing nothing else... u must just listen to them and agree with them if not u"ll be deleted. So if we realizated the system in reality and if the human have his own thinking or emotion he will be deleted from earth ????
if u watch her hitler vid she says shes Hitler and when she/he was a child he would sleep with his dog and his neighbours lived piece-fully and he liked walking and touching flowers and feeling the rain on his face and thought it was god....HHHHOOOOLLLDDDDD on your the disgusting hitler and when you were a child you had these sentiments and grew to be that monster.
They censored my comments because I am a Christian. Take a bunch of LSD, Mescaline, and every bathtub drug you can get your hands on. Then start recording yourself as you ramble on and on while opening your mind to Satan. Then once you are a brain dead zombie you can be a leader at Desteni. They can't stand any criticism but we should not watch their videos. You are feeding the cult if you watch their videos. One view should be enough.
one question I have is, if one is one with themselves, where is everyone else. I've lived my life alone all this time. I know what oneness is, but then they mix it with equality. They don't approve of the karma system, but then they say, "best for all". I say my love to others is my best for all.
Destini is taking a stance that has been around for thousands of years. That stance is, non duality. You find it in taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and it also can be found in Christianity. In itself, I see nothing wrong with it, being a Buddhist myself. Also, dualistic thinking will only produce dualistic ideas. Non dualism frees your mind to the point where you are ALWAYS outside of the box, always seeing things for how they are.
@sabot96 I think that's from Viktor Frankl, though I'm not sure. My other quote was from BlackPete...I think that's a good one too...hahhahah ahhhhh...seriously though, you ever tried to talk to any of the Desteni cult members? I've found it almost impossible because they will censor or ignore you of you're SLIGHTLY critical. Sad case.
@tstruss912 This video was created after being censored by a member of the group. They ask you to check them out so I did. I found that their whole experience is brain washing.
Same haircuts, same vlogging, same bland comments from member to member, same "comment pending approval" tactics to ignore critical discussion, etc, etc--ya, it's cultlike. I do think they're trying though, and I feel for them. They just need to accept themselves for who they are and get out of that cultlike group before they become boring drones!
@01blackpete1 "But the chicks are hot. Never mind opening portals. The only thing I'd be into opening is their legs...lol" hehehehehe Blackpete, I couldn't agree more.
The sad part about Desteni is that they're not even subtle. There are videos of them 'communicating' with Hitler and Audrey Hepburn right there on their website, under the "donate now" button asking people to send them money, and most of their texts sound like a mishmash of Charles Manson's rants and Scientology courses. I expect more subtlety in my cults, thank you very much!
I found that the longer I watched your video the more I realised that it is ignorance at it's greatest state. You know nothing of any of the concepts which you speak. You are such a waste of space. Moron in an intellectuals clothing.
@matthew00123 Absolutely, but the problem is, there are lots of thought-reform or coercive persuasion cults, and they do everything to manipulate people and make them dependent on the group, put them under pressure etc. There are precise and specific techniques to do so. However, the Desteni material is so blatant and crude in its attempts to manipulate that it is entirely unconvincing. Compared to other wacky and manipulative groups, Desteni is really quite ridiculous.
@matthew00123 It's not an 'honest question," it's an attempt to debate a point, "Love" that you do not have any relation to EXCEPT as an Idea. We prefer to place any notion of "Love" as anything that would benefit all. Love another as yourself, is what Jesus said, but people like you want to debate instead of act. GO right ahead.
If Desteni were about more fair and equal global economic or political conditions they wouldn't be constantly vlogging on YouTube. Desteni is on YT going on about "equality" as a front in order to appeal to idealism of potential subscribers and advertise a training course in pseudoscience, a pyramid scheme, conscription on labour camps, micro-chipping etc.
It's viral marketing for the interdimensional gobbledegook and totalitarian fantasies of "the living word" of Desteni, Bernard Poolman.
I just watched a video from Maya Harel, and she claims that once they reach 1000,000 people, the people at the "upper tiers" will place them selves under the people at the lowest teir, making an Equal Money Cycle The problem with this?
1 10 100 1000 10000 100000 1000000
The top six tiers have all of 111,111 people in it, little more than 10% of One Million
@matthew00123 Your taunting is an insult to my intelligence. Do you believe that you have some keen insight on the subject of love? Then show me that you actually LIVE it, and then you might be worthy of consideration.
"The way that man has dealt with [inequality is to tell stories." Not a very efficient way of dealing with a problem, is it? "Hey, my lights got turned off cuz I couldn't pay my bill, Maybe if I tell a story, I can get them back on." Your opinionated positivism is not any more evolved than a medicine man's beads and rattles, as Science cannot define everything that is here. There is no freedom without Equality, only mental masturbation, as this video amply proves.
@DarrylWThomas Inequality is a reality in the real world. Each person is unique. Some have more than others. Also, there is no freedom with equality. If it were possible for every unique human to be the same on this planet, you would have to have a guard next to each one to keep them the same.
@sabot96 Obviously, "inequality is a reality in the world." We wouldn't be making an issue of it if it wasn't the case, would we?
Understand, there is no freedom without equality, because then you have a situation where freedom can be purchased by the highest bidder, the exact situation that is the reality currently. Your idea of "freedom" needs a little more expansion to include everyone, not just those who can afford it.
@sabot96 That's a ludicrous statement. We're not talking about "making people the same." We're talking about human dignity being supported by economic equality where everyone can express their uniqueness without the burden of having to deal with poverty. Why do you divert the topic of economic equality into a rehash of Randian libertarian exceptionalism only because that supports your idea of how that world works? Opinions are not truth, even if you desperately want to believe them to be true.
You are correct. You have a ridiculous opinion that you wish to be true. The problem is not one shred of your opinion is based in the real world. You proclaim a utopia that can never come true.
@sabot96 Then your opinion sides against the historical fact of human evolution. You believe in positivism and the advance of science and technology but not in the social evolution of humanity.
@sabot96 Do believe in science or not? From your video you sure look like a classic positivist to me. And can only look at history to see the evolution of human civilization. I use your own beliefs against you. You can't even defend your position from your own starting point.
@DarrylWThomas Don't you understand that by always just evading, avoiding and dodging questions regarding Desteni iself, there is simply no substance to all the millions of people outside this organization? That most people correctly perceive the "Desteni Income Plan" as a typical pyramid selling scheme, that they are illegal in most countries? No substance - no future. I hope all totalitarian movements acting against basic civil rights will die anyway. See you, S.
@sabot96 Human slavery in America was an inequality that had the same defense as you are using now. There were people couldn't consider the possibility of an America existing without slaves to do all the work. But thank Satan, enough of humanity insisted on another definition of America. Don't make the mistake that humanity is a finished product. I'm much more optimistic in the Human Spirit than you appear to be.
@sabot96 I just wanted to state that,and I think you noticed it too,Desteni shows all giveaways signs of being a typical coercive persuasion movement,or thought-reform cult,and amazingly,all those manipulative groups (there are about 5000 of them) use almost the exact same specific methods to manipulate people,to lure them in (with controversial subjects,such as injustice in this world),change them,isolate and make them dependent. Like Scientology for instance, which is losing ground, finally.
@matthew00123 You have just communicated total nonsense. Mind is the automaton not the self? Consciousness is different than thought? Since mind is all your conscious and unconscious thoughts than mind is self. Consciousness is thoughts so your point makes no sense. Consciousness is different than what thoughts?
Mind is the definition of self, lose your individuality and you lose the very thing that makes you a human being rather than an automaton.
As for 'equality' of resources, we live on a world with a limited amount of any kind of resource, the answer is not to give everyone a little until we use it all and fade, but to expand outwards from Earth, to find new sources of resources, the unequal distribution of resources will only end when there is too much of everything for value to have meaning.
Therefore the only thing of 'value' is human creativity, and it seems from the FAQ that their beliefs stifle the very thing that could save us, individuality and believing in the impossible is the force that has pushed us to the moon and beyond, we need to keep pushing, no single person could fly to Mars, it takes an 'unequal' amount of resources to do so, but in doing so, everyone stands to gain. Short term equality or long term prosperity, it's up to us.
@SuperOfficerDibble 'Human Creativity" is impossible if you don't have money. Therefore, if you are as interested in preserving the "value" of "human creativity," then support an answer that would ensure "human creativity" for everyone that Desteni supports, an Equal Money economic system.
@RooneyHimself As you should know, the earliest forms of society did not involve money. Today, if you are making anything that involves creativity, you have to BUY THE SUPPLIES. That is so obvious I'm surprised you made me come out and say it.
One - I didn't make you do anything, YOU decided to come out, probably because you felt I was an easy target, or maybe it was the spamming of comments I left you, which is strange, as you didn't bother answering the other guy when he spammed comments
Two - You need to buy the supplies?
You can make wood carvings for free, just find a tree or falling branch, and a sharp rock
Also, you can make black paint by mixing powdered charcoal with water, just clean out a bonfire spot
@RooneyHimself You're economic model is amazing. You should either be President of the United States or at least win the Nobel Peace Prize! We can remove poverty by carving pieces of wood for free! So elegantly simple! Genius!
@matthew00123 Love has nothing to do with scarcity. Love does not change the fact that I have a limited amount of time to provide for others. My work produces only so much of what ever I am making. Also, I have to choose what to produce. When I make that choice, something else I can make has to be not made. If I grow pears instead of apples, apples become more scarce.
You are absolutely right. Desteni is a typical thought-reform cult. First thing they do is to confuse you (with lots of esoterical hogwash for instance), attract you with controversial subjects (injustice, crime, starving etc.), and then they proceed to attack and destabilize your self. Love bombing comes along with peer pressure. The isolation begins. These are one of the worst criminals to me. A cruel and malicious attempt at manipulating the vulnerable who invest all their hopes in the con.
Poolman is scum! Utter nonsense is an understatement. It would not surprise me one bit if Poolman is funded by the same people that want to control humanities future. He claims he wants equal money system, but what he really wants is equality amongst the slaves. HE IS SCUM! If he really wanted equality he would be asking for equal tax free land, but then he would have to take care of himself! All of those freaks are brainwashed from years of sucking the nanny state tit.
@bryphi77 In a Utopian world you can have equality of resources. In reality there will always be scarcity. Why follow someone to where you can't go in the real world.
@sabot96 I dont believe that there will ever be equality... only because people dont want the same things out of life. I do think we should all have the freedom to live how we would like without being forced to participate in any system by taxation. I dont care about equality... I care about living on the earth as a free human. If that makes sense?
@sabot96 Scarcity is caused by capitalism, which must PRODUCE SCARCITY TO MAKE MONEY. You really should educate yourself in basic capitalistic economic principles before making ridiculous statements which indicate an unfortunate lack of knowledge.
@DarrylWThomas Scarcity is not caused by capitalism. Scarcity is something that exists on its own in the real world. Everything on this planet is in limited supply. There have been many economic systems to deal with this. Capitalism is one of them.
@sabot96 The "promise": of capitalism was to reduce human suffering,allegedly by the doctrine of "rugged individualism" and the Protestant Work Ethic. It's created more instead. Capitalism PRODUCES "scarcity and then makes us PAY for it. Monasanto's "suicide seeds,"plastic nurdles that fouling the world's oceans and severely affecting the food chain, the disposal of nuclear waste which science has no effective answer for (other than dumping into deserts & oceans- all are the works of capitalism.
And of course Chernobyl, oh but wait that one was created by communism. There are a lot of problems with this world and placing them all on capitalism is just ignorance. People are the problem. Over population is having a massive impact on this earth.
@sabot96 Communism is just another word for capitalism,,, only China and Russia are set to make even MORE Money aligning capitalism with authoritarianism. They are building a world where the truest expression of capitalism will be seen and ultimately rejected, because there won't be the stomach for it to continue much longer. You may live long enough to see that, if you're lucky.
Communism is not just another word for capitalism. There is a world of difference between the state deciding what is made and the market place deciding what is made. Communism has had to embrace capitalism because capitalism is more efficient in using scarce resources.
@sabot96 Wrong, Capitalism has led to a horrendous abuse of resources, the way inferior products are released and then their "upgrades" are let out slowly but surely is one of the worst abuse of resources imaginable.
Capitalism is a very new economic system. Scarcity has been with us for a very long time. Let me see if I can bring this down to a simple level for you. Open a box of crayons that has 16 crayons. You have 20 kids. Boom you have scarcity. I guess you missed this lesson in preschool.
@sabot96 But you can always fetch another box of 16 crayons. BOOM. You have a surplus. I don't know why you hold such a hatred against your human brothers and sisters that you cannot open your heart and have a consideration for everyone.
@DarrylWThomas Yes they can if they are not forced to buy the right to survive from somebody else. This isn't the only possible way to "live.:"If you DO believe that, then You've been "brainwashed," my friend, not Desteni.
You are just lost. Not every person in the world can have as many crayons as they want. There is a limited supply. Not every person in the world can eat as much tuna as they want because there is a limited amount of fish. Capitalism did not create this limit. Good old mother nature only put so many Tuna on the earth.
@DarrylWThomas I really dont care who is funding you all I care about is that you are a bunch of brainwashed fools that speak utter nonsense and think that I should be forced to live under your collectivist nanny state...
@bryphi77 What credentials do you have for making a psychological assessment of my mental state. Do you have a professional degree that allows you to defame me on the Internet? Do you have credentials that makes you an expert on "brainwashing?" Or have you too confused what is true and what is opinion?
@DarrylWThomas What are your credentials that I should believe in inter dimensional beings with no evidence? Is that truth or opinion? You need to point that finger back at yourself.
People who believe things with no evidence are brainwashed or stupid... pick one.
@sabot96 It's true, many such cults have very similar patterns of activity, and there is usually some batshit crazy invented mythology to begin with which underpins everything they do, in this case the Desteni "interdimensional" fantasies. Always these bizarre mythologies are designed to uphold the illusion of the uniqueness and wisdom of the leader.
There are quite a few videos critical of Desteni, but they tend to get hidden amongst all the propaganda put out by the cult.
one thing you said was true- Desteni is based on logic: every concept is a deduction from equality.
paranapoleon 2 weeks ago
Desteni are good at talking and condemning others for not thinking the way they do
dreamcast98 3 weeks ago
A few years ago I fell for the bullshit from the likes of Destini. Eventually I woke up and realised a simple truth of life: we all need to put food on the table. Some can do that through legitimate means, others can't. The ones that can't are often storytellers who make up crap for gullible people to swallow. I'm pleased to say I'm a lot more sceptical now.
lumabi25 1 month ago
You can also see the connections between the way they work and how Scientology works. They are cults. Period.
cultchaser 1 month ago
For them is easy to talk, money attracts people, so there is no doubt that give a brainwashing.
masturbating words from Poolman, i almost belive in what he says. (fuck)
And that bizarre image they have like a monster in a florest, is like a poolman baby.
To much tyranny, to much communism.
Play671 1 month ago
Yea, i was infected be the money, is like a virus the money, that enter in your head and you can't get out, is like a real virus, money money money money, oh shit >_<
Play671 1 month ago
Now, that make sense right there.
Hellu235Sing 1 month ago
Bernard Poolman is a total psychopath and I feel sorry for those who let themselves to be captured by his craziness.
fernandatralala 2 months ago
@deltaoleg The only thing desteni is really doing is selling a product-and promising everyone a better future.
Desteni do not use their resources to help the world,they do not support any groups that already try to change the world...And besides talking and repeating the same thing over and over again,desteni does nothing at all.
The idea of desteni is about equality and ones,yet they do nothing to gain it-they just "believe" that if they think everyone is equal,then suddenly all the problemsEnd
Wharwulif 3 months ago
Humans are just stupid,so you can shove the entire"way the world works" up your business! since the result today is a very VERY distorted world!
Now...The Desteni group spreads an idea that is suppose to be good-YET,their problem is TOO many conflicted ideas,no actual activity to change things,and they focus on "believing" that it will all work.
Overall,it feels like they are raping the concept of"changing the world"Because they only focus on spreading their idea-they do not help anyone at all.
Wharwulif 3 months ago
Desteni say what's in the mind doesn't exist but their belief if fuelled by an idea in the mind.
NancyGorman 3 months ago
I agree, Desteni calls for onesness and equality, pretty words, but there is no equality where everyone has the right to being their own person.
NancyGorman 3 months ago
What's the Desteni ??
Blaquemajeek 4 months ago
thats not a scarcity of time that's a scarcity of life.
HayteStreet 4 months ago
Oneness And Equality ! ! ! ! !
Salihovicable 5 months ago
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@deltaoleg wake up
lkhfrank 5 months ago
@deltaoleg wake up
lkhfrank 5 months ago
They claim to want to rid of current money systems YET they want your REAL money in order to institute a better system of their own... They refuse to ask any of the thought provoking questions about their system. Ask them what they would do about an unstable man who ends up killing someone, you will not get a straight answer!... They are unrealistic, scamers, and or nutcases! They also want you to get a microchip implanted into your skin...
OooHesGood 6 months ago
@OooHesGood Yes...they got lots of ideas that are conflicted with each other-and they got no base for anything,no real plan...no real anything.
Also,they do avoid answering,they only direct you to buy their products.
I see that they are not true because the way they function is just too messy,too inner conflicted,and they are busy saying "why you want to pick OUR way" instead of "what we actually do",also...they reject any new ideas,they reject every outside opinion...They are only a commercial.
Wharwulif 3 months ago
you lost me when the sun is up destenei is out i go see for myself
Not2commonofcaurse 6 months ago
i have another question for you, if the man since the very begining has nothing (as posesions) how others can have more than others since the begining? it doesnt make sense, desteni is givinga solution at least, you are just saying, dont do nothing, the world is perfect as it is, then if its so perfect, why you have to protect yourself from being brainwash?
nenabonitalasabrosa 6 months ago
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SimulacronX 6 months ago
Whatever desteni says I don't care at all...
You know that you are not your body right?!
SirSmokeALot667 7 months ago
I just find it funny that they keep blaming society for causing all of the death, poverty ect. in this world and saying that we aren't doing anything about it... Well, what exactly are they doing to make this world better as we speak? All Desteni is are ideas.
Where is the proof?
Where is the contribution?
I dont see any of them making a difference in this world
It seems to me that they're just putting the blame on us while they sit there and feel better about themselves.
irishfaye93 7 months ago
Desteni?
They talk about freedom of speech while they block the easiest questions... They talk about brainwashing while they can hardly read a book... They talk about equality in a moneymaking system? Whats equal in making money? Whats the meaning of money when its equal?
Desteni are having a dayjob in giving eachother thumbsup and dislike everything wich goes against it. (many videos against desteni have the same rate of dislikes... they don't listen to it at all)
zumobster 8 months ago
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
@RooneyHimself
That means, that 888,889 people, will be wondering, Where the fuck are my 10 "recruits"
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
Now someone comes with an anser, and you disgrace them. Think about what destini is truely pruposing. It is not there brainwash look back to jesus christ.
Machew4Life 8 months ago
@Machew4Life
Gosh, i think you are lost on this page...
What are you doing questioning your masters?
Its not wise to flipover a stone wich might show some reality.
Desteni is bogus but are you willing to see why?
(it might hurt ya feelings)
zumobster 8 months ago
@zumobster I like the idea of equality, and I've tooken a lot from what desteni says.
I watch there videos and many others. They are no my master more so then any other person I listen to. I form my own opinions and what not.
So if your willing to share with me why you think that they are bogus, then please share it with me.
Machew4Life 7 months ago
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or you have washed your brain as you do not want this world to help improve
LymzX 8 months ago
Dude... you really need a superhero costume... that might make your arguments seem better. You twisted the actual information for your own egotistical act. Its not even remotely close!!! Try facing yourself. It fascinating how you really think you know everything and think you are 'ALL WISE'. You should start your own cult maybe... see how many followers you can get lol.
wcuff1209 8 months ago
@deltaoleg My starting point is that Desteni is taking advantage of people and brainwashing them.
sabot96 9 months ago
@sabot96 So?
Machew4Life 8 months ago
Desteni seem okay on the surface, but what is behind it? Look closer. Once you have fully grasped everything, like all disinformation packages, they have you in their grip by the 99% feasable and good parts, then you're in their program, game over. Desteni are fools because they've all been fooled by the same tactics from higher sources. The process is all about washing the brain/psyche clean, so that these people become empty vessels - empty to be filled with NWO ideology.
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jmoneylee 10 months ago
desteni is not equality ! they feel superior towards u, and when u have another opinion ur out, and as quick as lightening the whole chainreaction of their puppetry, and before u know, ur blocked by people u don't even know. they're freaks. they're dangerous. u can only stay if u become a robot of poolman.
secondbible 10 months ago
@secondbible It's been a loooong time since I was familiar with desteni material, but I remember having an argument on the desteni channel about some concept of theres about combingin everyone into one entity. The specifics I can't remember but it was so hilarious to tell the person running the channel that I will forever refuse to stand "equal as one as all creation" or something like that. Thus ruining their overall goal.
Tsresponds 8 months ago
hey i dont like what destini is doing either, but from the way you speak you havent even researched trances or multi dementions. and according to your definition of insanity einstien was crazy, da vinci was crazy, jfk was crazy, mlk was crazy.
insanity as defined by my own self is the inability to deal with your created perception.
musicoutsidethebox 10 months ago
the more I listen the more I figure out! you are a completely reason driven being. you are the defender of this system which is enslaving you! I understand your carefulness ... I really do. BUT you need to know that you are MASSIVELY MISSINTERPRETING their statements -> listen here: to "stop all participation" equals and means = that we are allowing "them" (this system) to enslave us ... so STOP allowing "them" to enslave YOU!! please my friend with all respect! widen your mind for your own sake
carnivourlocust 10 months ago
sabot96 -> please with all due respect ... ASK YOURSELF! why do you think they want to change us? WHY? THE REASON? do you see where this world is going when we are the way we are? can't you see? THIS WORLD AND WE ARE A COMPLETE AND UTTER BS -> what we are doing IS wrong!!! there is just no other way than to erase the ego driven beings for this world to heal!!! please answer me ... perhaps I am wrong BUT this is A FACT!!!
carnivourlocust 10 months ago
Man, in all love that I've got I have to say your video is good BUT you ramble too much. Without counting I think you propably said something like fourty times of word 'carbage' or 'nonsense'. It is not constructive. Please present your ideas without all the demining of other ideas and if you see something wrong with other idea, don't just use a word 'nonsense' or 'carbage'. Say WHY it is what you think! Also you seem to be very scared of losing your ego. Don't be, it will not kill you.
KvalnirFox 10 months ago
I have another question for this egg head, Why are your videos so stupid? You're probably asking yourself "Well , why are you watching them." Don't even say it egg head, I only watched 2, this being the second, and believe me when I say I'm done, but of course not without letting you know how retarded your videos are.
greenjack792 10 months ago
@greenjack792 At least I am capable of making a video. You seem to lack that skill. Your so ignorant I am surprised you can form a sentence.
sabot96 10 months ago
@greenjack792 Typical Destini drone goes on the attack, calling him names?! Why are you so angry I thought as a Destonian you would have abandoned emotions? Your anger will grow, as your channel has been shut down as it was clearly a marketing ploy for Bernard Poolman and more and more people are seeing Destini for the cult that it is.
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@greenjack792 You expect me to believe you see anyone has equal?
The problem with desteni is that they forget that other ideas even exist...So,they only answer to other opinions by either deleting them,puking words that are suppose to insult at them,and never really trying to listen,
My ideas actually go to true equality,and to a better world,yet for some reason Desteni refuse to listen to me,because they believe that I'm brainwashed?
Wait...but I already believe in equality,So whata heck?
Wharwulif 3 months ago
Desteni = zombies
If you are in there group u must not share your opinion cuz u will be deleted, u must not have emotions... desteni is brainwashing nothing else... u must just listen to them and agree with them if not u"ll be deleted. So if we realizated the system in reality and if the human have his own thinking or emotion he will be deleted from earth ????
potheadig 10 months ago
if u watch her hitler vid she says shes Hitler and when she/he was a child he would sleep with his dog and his neighbours lived piece-fully and he liked walking and touching flowers and feeling the rain on his face and thought it was god....HHHHOOOOLLLDDDDD on your the disgusting hitler and when you were a child you had these sentiments and grew to be that monster.
mrkhristoff 10 months ago
They censored my comments because I am a Christian. Take a bunch of LSD, Mescaline, and every bathtub drug you can get your hands on. Then start recording yourself as you ramble on and on while opening your mind to Satan. Then once you are a brain dead zombie you can be a leader at Desteni. They can't stand any criticism but we should not watch their videos. You are feeding the cult if you watch their videos. One view should be enough.
Thomas314161 11 months ago
One mans reality is another mans fantasy. Capitalism is a Utopian fantasy. Where yo hair Savoir-Faire?
NotJoe101 11 months ago
one question I have is, if one is one with themselves, where is everyone else. I've lived my life alone all this time. I know what oneness is, but then they mix it with equality. They don't approve of the karma system, but then they say, "best for all". I say my love to others is my best for all.
Minan3 11 months ago
Destini is taking a stance that has been around for thousands of years. That stance is, non duality. You find it in taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, and it also can be found in Christianity. In itself, I see nothing wrong with it, being a Buddhist myself. Also, dualistic thinking will only produce dualistic ideas. Non dualism frees your mind to the point where you are ALWAYS outside of the box, always seeing things for how they are.
Vuntry 11 months ago
We are meaning seeking creatures born into a meaningless world.
tstruss912 11 months ago
@tstruss912 This is one of the most insightful comments I have received.
sabot96 11 months ago
@sabot96 I think that's from Viktor Frankl, though I'm not sure. My other quote was from BlackPete...I think that's a good one too...hahhahah ahhhhh...seriously though, you ever tried to talk to any of the Desteni cult members? I've found it almost impossible because they will censor or ignore you of you're SLIGHTLY critical. Sad case.
tstruss912 11 months ago
@tstruss912 This video was created after being censored by a member of the group. They ask you to check them out so I did. I found that their whole experience is brain washing.
sabot96 11 months ago
Same haircuts, same vlogging, same bland comments from member to member, same "comment pending approval" tactics to ignore critical discussion, etc, etc--ya, it's cultlike. I do think they're trying though, and I feel for them. They just need to accept themselves for who they are and get out of that cultlike group before they become boring drones!
tstruss912 11 months ago
Destini are a load of rubbish. But the chicks are hot. Never mind opening portals. The only thing I'd be into opening is their legs...lol
The reptilian thing is cracked.
01blackpete1 11 months ago
@01blackpete1 "But the chicks are hot. Never mind opening portals. The only thing I'd be into opening is their legs...lol" hehehehehe Blackpete, I couldn't agree more.
tstruss912 11 months ago
The sad part about Desteni is that they're not even subtle. There are videos of them 'communicating' with Hitler and Audrey Hepburn right there on their website, under the "donate now" button asking people to send them money, and most of their texts sound like a mishmash of Charles Manson's rants and Scientology courses. I expect more subtlety in my cults, thank you very much!
Catfightproductions 11 months ago
I found that the longer I watched your video the more I realised that it is ignorance at it's greatest state. You know nothing of any of the concepts which you speak. You are such a waste of space. Moron in an intellectuals clothing.
chriskult 1 year ago
@chriskult Desteni is total junk and a waste of time and space. It will destroy you and your mind.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Hostilities flare up when you ruffle the feathers of a fanatic, eh?
Nguli34689 11 months ago
@matthew00123 Absolutely, but the problem is, there are lots of thought-reform or coercive persuasion cults, and they do everything to manipulate people and make them dependent on the group, put them under pressure etc. There are precise and specific techniques to do so. However, the Desteni material is so blatant and crude in its attempts to manipulate that it is entirely unconvincing. Compared to other wacky and manipulative groups, Desteni is really quite ridiculous.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@matthew00123 It's not an 'honest question," it's an attempt to debate a point, "Love" that you do not have any relation to EXCEPT as an Idea. We prefer to place any notion of "Love" as anything that would benefit all. Love another as yourself, is what Jesus said, but people like you want to debate instead of act. GO right ahead.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
If Desteni were about more fair and equal global economic or political conditions they wouldn't be constantly vlogging on YouTube. Desteni is on YT going on about "equality" as a front in order to appeal to idealism of potential subscribers and advertise a training course in pseudoscience, a pyramid scheme, conscription on labour camps, micro-chipping etc.
It's viral marketing for the interdimensional gobbledegook and totalitarian fantasies of "the living word" of Desteni, Bernard Poolman.
0rdoTempliAurora 1 year ago
@0rdoTempliAurora I'm so glad we've gotten ahold of your mind, zero r do.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
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@DarrylWThomas
I just watched a video from Maya Harel, and she claims that once they reach 1000,000 people, the people at the "upper tiers" will place them selves under the people at the lowest teir, making an Equal Money Cycle The problem with this?
1 10 100 1000 10000 100000 1000000
The top six tiers have all of 111,111 people in it, little more than 10% of One Million
What do you say, Darryl Thomas?
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
@matthew00123 Please. I'm like the wind. You'll never get me.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas
The wind, huh
Blow me, Invisble man
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
@matthew00123 Thank you very much for your kind words.
sabot96 1 year ago
@matthew00123 Your taunting is an insult to my intelligence. Do you believe that you have some keen insight on the subject of love? Then show me that you actually LIVE it, and then you might be worthy of consideration.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@matthew00123 or 3) Because you aren't self-honest enough to hear us.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
"The way that man has dealt with [inequality is to tell stories." Not a very efficient way of dealing with a problem, is it? "Hey, my lights got turned off cuz I couldn't pay my bill, Maybe if I tell a story, I can get them back on." Your opinionated positivism is not any more evolved than a medicine man's beads and rattles, as Science cannot define everything that is here. There is no freedom without Equality, only mental masturbation, as this video amply proves.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas Inequality is a reality in the real world. Each person is unique. Some have more than others. Also, there is no freedom with equality. If it were possible for every unique human to be the same on this planet, you would have to have a guard next to each one to keep them the same.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Obviously, "inequality is a reality in the world." We wouldn't be making an issue of it if it wasn't the case, would we?
Understand, there is no freedom without equality, because then you have a situation where freedom can be purchased by the highest bidder, the exact situation that is the reality currently. Your idea of "freedom" needs a little more expansion to include everyone, not just those who can afford it.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
There can be no freedom in equality. Freedom is the quickest way to inequality.
sabot96 1 year ago
You are correct: Freedom is the quickest way to inequality." I accept your apology.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
Apology for what? You claim that freedom comes from equality. It does not!
sabot96 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas
Then why don't tell Bernard to give me the freedom of leaving posts on Desteni Channels
Then we'll talk about freedom
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
@RooneyHimself You can leave posts on the forum. Then we'll talk about the channels.
DarrylWThomas 7 months ago
@sabot96 That's a ludicrous statement. We're not talking about "making people the same." We're talking about human dignity being supported by economic equality where everyone can express their uniqueness without the burden of having to deal with poverty. Why do you divert the topic of economic equality into a rehash of Randian libertarian exceptionalism only because that supports your idea of how that world works? Opinions are not truth, even if you desperately want to believe them to be true.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
You are correct. You have a ridiculous opinion that you wish to be true. The problem is not one shred of your opinion is based in the real world. You proclaim a utopia that can never come true.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Then your opinion sides against the historical fact of human evolution. You believe in positivism and the advance of science and technology but not in the social evolution of humanity.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
Human evolution is a scientific idea. What is your point! If you believe in evolution you must believe in science.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Do believe in science or not? From your video you sure look like a classic positivist to me. And can only look at history to see the evolution of human civilization. I use your own beliefs against you. You can't even defend your position from your own starting point.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
I have stayed consistent from the beginning. I believe in science.
sabot96 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas Don't you understand that by always just evading, avoiding and dodging questions regarding Desteni iself, there is simply no substance to all the millions of people outside this organization? That most people correctly perceive the "Desteni Income Plan" as a typical pyramid selling scheme, that they are illegal in most countries? No substance - no future. I hope all totalitarian movements acting against basic civil rights will die anyway. See you, S.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@sabot96 Human slavery in America was an inequality that had the same defense as you are using now. There were people couldn't consider the possibility of an America existing without slaves to do all the work. But thank Satan, enough of humanity insisted on another definition of America. Don't make the mistake that humanity is a finished product. I'm much more optimistic in the Human Spirit than you appear to be.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
What part of my defense allows for slavery! At no time have I said that owning another person is ok.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Sure you did. You claim that freedom trumps economic slavery. That economic equality is an "utopia" that can never come to pass.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@sabot96 I just wanted to state that,and I think you noticed it too,Desteni shows all giveaways signs of being a typical coercive persuasion movement,or thought-reform cult,and amazingly,all those manipulative groups (there are about 5000 of them) use almost the exact same specific methods to manipulate people,to lure them in (with controversial subjects,such as injustice in this world),change them,isolate and make them dependent. Like Scientology for instance, which is losing ground, finally.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@matthew00123 You have just communicated total nonsense. Mind is the automaton not the self? Consciousness is different than thought? Since mind is all your conscious and unconscious thoughts than mind is self. Consciousness is thoughts so your point makes no sense. Consciousness is different than what thoughts?
sabot96 1 year ago
Desteni is set to fall and we will help those innocent self-deluded lambs who became lured into to wake up from that nonsense.
Istenenergia 1 year ago
Mind is the definition of self, lose your individuality and you lose the very thing that makes you a human being rather than an automaton.
As for 'equality' of resources, we live on a world with a limited amount of any kind of resource, the answer is not to give everyone a little until we use it all and fade, but to expand outwards from Earth, to find new sources of resources, the unequal distribution of resources will only end when there is too much of everything for value to have meaning.
SuperOfficerDibble 1 year ago
(cont from my previous post)
Therefore the only thing of 'value' is human creativity, and it seems from the FAQ that their beliefs stifle the very thing that could save us, individuality and believing in the impossible is the force that has pushed us to the moon and beyond, we need to keep pushing, no single person could fly to Mars, it takes an 'unequal' amount of resources to do so, but in doing so, everyone stands to gain. Short term equality or long term prosperity, it's up to us.
SuperOfficerDibble 1 year ago
@SuperOfficerDibble 'Human Creativity" is impossible if you don't have money. Therefore, if you are as interested in preserving the "value" of "human creativity," then support an answer that would ensure "human creativity" for everyone that Desteni supports, an Equal Money economic system.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas
Human Creativity is impossible without money
Then, how did we build Farms, towns, and cities
Did the cavemen buy stuff from a store to make there hand markings on a cave wall? or did they take it from the land itself?
RooneyHimself 8 months ago
@RooneyHimself As you should know, the earliest forms of society did not involve money. Today, if you are making anything that involves creativity, you have to BUY THE SUPPLIES. That is so obvious I'm surprised you made me come out and say it.
DarrylWThomas 8 months ago
@DarrylWThomas
One - I didn't make you do anything, YOU decided to come out, probably because you felt I was an easy target, or maybe it was the spamming of comments I left you, which is strange, as you didn't bother answering the other guy when he spammed comments
Two - You need to buy the supplies?
You can make wood carvings for free, just find a tree or falling branch, and a sharp rock
Also, you can make black paint by mixing powdered charcoal with water, just clean out a bonfire spot
RooneyHimself 7 months ago
@RooneyHimself You're economic model is amazing. You should either be President of the United States or at least win the Nobel Peace Prize! We can remove poverty by carving pieces of wood for free! So elegantly simple! Genius!
DarrylWThomas 7 months ago
@DarrylWThomas
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Your sarcasm is not appreciated
and those were just small examples
Good day to you, sir
RooneyHimself 7 months ago
@matthew00123 Love has nothing to do with scarcity. Love does not change the fact that I have a limited amount of time to provide for others. My work produces only so much of what ever I am making. Also, I have to choose what to produce. When I make that choice, something else I can make has to be not made. If I grow pears instead of apples, apples become more scarce.
sabot96 1 year ago
You are absolutely right. Desteni is a typical thought-reform cult. First thing they do is to confuse you (with lots of esoterical hogwash for instance), attract you with controversial subjects (injustice, crime, starving etc.), and then they proceed to attack and destabilize your self. Love bombing comes along with peer pressure. The isolation begins. These are one of the worst criminals to me. A cruel and malicious attempt at manipulating the vulnerable who invest all their hopes in the con.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@matthew00123 It looks like all members of this group are seeking honesty, but they censor all comments on their channels.
sabot96 1 year ago
Poolman is scum! Utter nonsense is an understatement. It would not surprise me one bit if Poolman is funded by the same people that want to control humanities future. He claims he wants equal money system, but what he really wants is equality amongst the slaves. HE IS SCUM! If he really wanted equality he would be asking for equal tax free land, but then he would have to take care of himself! All of those freaks are brainwashed from years of sucking the nanny state tit.
bryphi77 1 year ago
@bryphi77 In a Utopian world you can have equality of resources. In reality there will always be scarcity. Why follow someone to where you can't go in the real world.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 I dont believe that there will ever be equality... only because people dont want the same things out of life. I do think we should all have the freedom to live how we would like without being forced to participate in any system by taxation. I dont care about equality... I care about living on the earth as a free human. If that makes sense?
bryphi77 1 year ago
@sabot96 Scarcity is caused by capitalism, which must PRODUCE SCARCITY TO MAKE MONEY. You really should educate yourself in basic capitalistic economic principles before making ridiculous statements which indicate an unfortunate lack of knowledge.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas Scarcity is not caused by capitalism. Scarcity is something that exists on its own in the real world. Everything on this planet is in limited supply. There have been many economic systems to deal with this. Capitalism is one of them.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 The "promise": of capitalism was to reduce human suffering,allegedly by the doctrine of "rugged individualism" and the Protestant Work Ethic. It's created more instead. Capitalism PRODUCES "scarcity and then makes us PAY for it. Monasanto's "suicide seeds,"plastic nurdles that fouling the world's oceans and severely affecting the food chain, the disposal of nuclear waste which science has no effective answer for (other than dumping into deserts & oceans- all are the works of capitalism.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
And of course Chernobyl, oh but wait that one was created by communism. There are a lot of problems with this world and placing them all on capitalism is just ignorance. People are the problem. Over population is having a massive impact on this earth.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Communism is just another word for capitalism,,, only China and Russia are set to make even MORE Money aligning capitalism with authoritarianism. They are building a world where the truest expression of capitalism will be seen and ultimately rejected, because there won't be the stomach for it to continue much longer. You may live long enough to see that, if you're lucky.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
Communism is not just another word for capitalism. There is a world of difference between the state deciding what is made and the market place deciding what is made. Communism has had to embrace capitalism because capitalism is more efficient in using scarce resources.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 Wrong, Capitalism has led to a horrendous abuse of resources, the way inferior products are released and then their "upgrades" are let out slowly but surely is one of the worst abuse of resources imaginable.
Siva3Enthroned 1 year ago
@sabot96 Great video though, agreed!
Siva3Enthroned 1 year ago
Capitalism is a very new economic system. Scarcity has been with us for a very long time. Let me see if I can bring this down to a simple level for you. Open a box of crayons that has 16 crayons. You have 20 kids. Boom you have scarcity. I guess you missed this lesson in preschool.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 But you can always fetch another box of 16 crayons. BOOM. You have a surplus. I don't know why you hold such a hatred against your human brothers and sisters that you cannot open your heart and have a consideration for everyone.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
Here is a simple question for you. Can every person on this earth have as many crayons as they would like?
sabot96 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas Yes they can if they are not forced to buy the right to survive from somebody else. This isn't the only possible way to "live.:"If you DO believe that, then You've been "brainwashed," my friend, not Desteni.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
You are just lost. Not every person in the world can have as many crayons as they want. There is a limited supply. Not every person in the world can eat as much tuna as they want because there is a limited amount of fish. Capitalism did not create this limit. Good old mother nature only put so many Tuna on the earth.
sabot96 1 year ago
@bryphi77 Yeah, Desteni is funded by Tavistock, the Illuminati and Satan. We've been found out!!!
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas I really dont care who is funding you all I care about is that you are a bunch of brainwashed fools that speak utter nonsense and think that I should be forced to live under your collectivist nanny state...
bryphi77 1 year ago
@bryphi77 What credentials do you have for making a psychological assessment of my mental state. Do you have a professional degree that allows you to defame me on the Internet? Do you have credentials that makes you an expert on "brainwashing?" Or have you too confused what is true and what is opinion?
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
@DarrylWThomas What are your credentials that I should believe in inter dimensional beings with no evidence? Is that truth or opinion? You need to point that finger back at yourself.
People who believe things with no evidence are brainwashed or stupid... pick one.
bryphi77 1 year ago
@bryphi77 Just as I thought, a troll.
DarrylWThomas 1 year ago
Good to see more people speaking out against Desteni.
You summed it up: "Just because somebody participates in insanity doesn't make it reality".
0rdoTempliAurora 1 year ago
@0rdoTempliAurora It seems that all groups of this type back up their "truth" with strange stories that can only be explained as insanity.
sabot96 1 year ago
@sabot96 It's true, many such cults have very similar patterns of activity, and there is usually some batshit crazy invented mythology to begin with which underpins everything they do, in this case the Desteni "interdimensional" fantasies. Always these bizarre mythologies are designed to uphold the illusion of the uniqueness and wisdom of the leader.
There are quite a few videos critical of Desteni, but they tend to get hidden amongst all the propaganda put out by the cult.
0rdoTempliAurora 1 year ago
Great vid ... I so appreciate people who can still think for themselves.
icpchad 1 year ago
@icpchad I did not see many videos challenging this nonsense, so I thought I would add one. Thank you for watching.
sabot96 1 year ago