monolog vs. Linn Drum II

[Popoldabboy]

We are still waiting for Linn Drum II.

[proggah]

can you tell me the name of the track you used at the start/end?

[johnpatrom1]

LOOKS LIKE LIGHTS OUT

[layzeee]

weak

[TheLitherland]

I like the sounds but it does not look user friendly. I'll keep my mind open on this one

[RaVe4EvR122]

Im sorry but this sorta fails i coudn't bring myself to use that as there are far better options out there sorry for being blunt.

[meginis8]

Your drum machine is fucking stupid, a bunch of yellow lights...WOW like any fucking human being is gonna be able to use it without reading.....

[Myschly]

Maybe you've learned more about it since, but the Monome has so much more potential. This video showed nothing of its potential.

It's easy to understand (sometimes), but it's got the potential to become something you can't understand from just looking at it.

[swarm69]

@meginis8 dude thats a monome its posibly the most versatile midi controller you've ever seen ..shhh

[sprintbass]

im old school to the point i dont want pro tools..everyone is sooo pro tools..im a bass player and really what i need is a good drummer OR machine..a machine makes more sense because its always on time for work and never hung over..the new linndrum should be out from what i heard yesterday at the start of 2010..the top model is 1500$ no idea how many are being made..but i want one very badly..ive had roland drum machines and they dispointed me..more nobs and switches = more tonal expression.

[rtmocaliente]

you ain't got velocity on the monome for SHIT

[fluxsta]

ok, no offence bu that is just basic basic monome fiddling....nothing to shout about dude? there is so much that is capable with a monome, i am not sure what your challenge is or your argument???

[korny1684]

idk if i could work one of those i would probably get all confused but it looks nice

[kavasake1]

looks like tetris

[super7am]

This machine looks like a shitty iMac ripoff of a drum machine! Where's the knobs???

[Falkon303]

give me knobs, a coherent display of activity, and a separation from the glow of the lcd, and I will consider that a true piece of hardware.

[queteimportaguey]

give a Fender Strat and a Marshall!!!

:-)

[jae5105]

where can i get my hands on one of these?

[Mudisticism]

...

Maybe if you talk with Roland or Akai could do better business than pimping Roger Linn...

I believe in your possibilities but don't mess the humanity

;)

...

[chickennoodle35]

its because they have both been working on other porjects in the mean time

for example dave smith with the mopho

they are hopeflly going to release it next year

dave smith is my dad so i know this kinda stuff

hah

[fatleader]

sorry but if u do manage to do something with it, ill have no idea how to use it. sorry.

[Zenboy23]

Cool, now just ask for a credit, manufacture an interphase not based on that annoying fabulous fred monome thing, sell it on half the price Linn sells his machines and you got yourself a new company.

Not interested? Well just keep posting videos in youtube for other similar music nerds :P

[hydrogxn]

i liked your videos and your "arrogance"

[dubberdubs]

yours is different from other machines. with yours it becomes a memory game as to what function is assigned to what button. some people might like that. watching the vid makes me feel like I need to think too much about the technical side rather than the music side. just my opinion.

[avanturb]

pattern recognition is a key part of it indeed. it does become easier with time though. but to help out there's also a visual component. check the more recent monolog video to see some of that.

[DancingWaldo]

@dubberdubs What do you call memorizing the keys of a piano? Its the same thing. Or how bout the notes played on a violin. Memorized.

[syntheticmusic]

looks like an interesting project, i'll watch it with hopeful expectancy from now on. I couldn't for the life of me understand how it works though! And having read some articles on the LinnDrum 2 I seriously doubt that you'll get anywhere near the standard they are talking about achieving. If it takes a bit longer for them to achieve it so what? It will be worth it if they succeed in producing the best drum machine in history (not to mention the other model with the syth). Good luck with yours!

[genxtargetmarket]

I find it extremely arrogant to attempt to equate or compare a built (and coded) from the ground up product to something that is a stitched together SYSTEM of pre-fabricated parts. The Monome, Mac/PC, and Bidule app were not created from nothing, designed & manufactured by one person as a tightly integrated, self-contained & highly portable system. This is only one difference.

Not to be too harsh, but it doesn't seem like the poster has any experience in hardware/product design & manufacturing.

[genxtargetmarket]

I find it extremely arrogant to attempt to equate or compare a built (and coded) from the ground up product to something that is a stitched together SYSTEM of pre-fabricated parts. The Monome, Mac/PC, and Bidule app were not created from nothing, designed & manufactured by one person as a tightly integrated, self-contained & highly portable system. This is only one difference.

Not to be too harsh, but it doesn't seem like the poster has any experience in hardware/product design & manufacturing.

[avanturb]

i wasn't going for arrogance... i actually do state the major difference in approach, but the goal is the same. an analog drum machine with a sequencer engine. no i don't have any experience with hardware design and manufacturing, that's why its not a consumer competitor. what it is is a challenge for me as an artist: can i build a drum machine that stands up with the best of the bunch. I say I can. I only ask that you wait for the finished product before you judge.

[genxtargetmarket]

Buuuuut.., Much of the yellow text of video is exceeding arrogant, especially as it is targeted toward 2 of the stalwarts of the industry: "Maybe what they need is a little healthy competition", "Okay, that's enough talk & images. I'll leave that Dave & Roger", "...and where the LinnDrum II comes up short(a product that isn't even out yet, thus we don't know the full capabilities), I got the goods.", "... maybe now Roger & Dave will take my challenge seriously.", " You taking notes yet, Roger?"

[genxtargetmarket]

Statements like these seem pretty emotionally charged & filled with arrogance from an unknown toward the 2 above mentioned industry heavies.

Also, I don't see how a person would interpret the manner of the video as being a 'personal artistic challenge'. This seems to have been brought up after the fact & is in opposition to the language of the video.

[avanturb]

Sorry, that's my personality. Its not meant as disrespect at all. I'm not the type to hold my tongue because of someone's but I'll also give respect where its due. If you read the page linked in the details you'll know I have the utmost respect for these guys and their work. There's a nice paragraph there I won't copy here about the whole thing. But yeah this is my personality in a competitive setting. Did I lie or misrepresent them? Not at all. Did I point out their short comings. Yes.

[avanturb]

Did they show up to NAMM with a non-functional prototype? Yes. Did they push the date back to the end of the year? Yes. Did we spend the last year going on nothing but talk and images around the product? Yes. Is there something in the monolog that has yet to appear in either Linn or Smith's product lines? Yes. Like I said, as long as I'm not lying or misrepresenting them I see nothing wrong with my comments. Also I did not represent myself. The catalyst for this project was....

[avanturb]

literally inspired after the early reports started coming back from NAMM that the LinnDrum wasn't going to be out before the end of the year. I was already working on other applications but put my mind to creating the monolog. I started from the old specs of the BoomChik (limited as they were) and went from there. In the back of my mind I was like hmmm, can I do this. The more and more I worked on it I realized not only could I but it's going to be good. Stay tuned.

[avanturb]

merajj,

the song is just an old track from the vaults.

johnisfaster,

it isn't really meant to be a consumer product competitor. but rather more about pushing the boundaries on functionality. What the monolog will hopefully do though is combine a killer sound (soft-synth or not) with modular editing and sequence functions for days, many of which I'm pretty sure won't make their way to the Linn Drum II.

128 & 256 should be simple mods but as I don't have one I'm focused on 64 development.

[johnisfaster]

totally understood and it looks like a great tool. I'd use it. It's just that the video seems to focus on the linn drum and your app in comparison and it seems to me you could just as easily compare it to a guitar as the linn drum as they are so very different.

I don't mean that litterally of course, just making a point. Either way though I'm not trying to bash it, it looks awesome (if only slightly confusing) and I look forward to using it someday.

[merajj]

interesting concept.

what is the song that plays at the beginning and end ?

[johnisfaster]

pretty sweet concept actually, but to say that it replaces the need for the linn drum is kinda a stretch I think. real analog machine with knobs replaced by digital soft synth with buttons. not saying either is better, just that one doesn't replace the other.

gonna make a 128 version?