cont....What about wealthy White business owners who perpetuate the same hiring practices because they have a tendency to hire who they know? Studies show that people are more incline to hire someone who they are familiar with or who they feel they share a commonality with. Nobody bitches and complains about that form of AA.George W. Bush is a prime example of this type of Affirmative Action. A well to do family who got their C average student into an Ivy Leage institution. Shit happens often
cont.... AA forces employers and other agencies to take a hard look at candidates and ignore these biases. There is also and underlying notion that Blacks were only admitted solely because of race and not credentials which is bullshit. Race constitutes as a percentage of the decision process and usually, Blacks are just as qualified or even more qualified than there White counterparts. Also, White Women are the largest beneficiaries of AA.
I'm truly disturbed by the sweeping generalizations about Blacks and the lack of knowledge about this subject. Until implicit biases towards Blacks and other minority groups disappear, AA will always be needed in this country. If AA was never implemented, qualified Blacks or any other minority groups would have never had a chance to begin with. I hate to burst your bubble but people still have a tendency to judge based off of stereotypes and preconceived notions that are formed by the media.
I dont think affirmative action makes any sense anymore... im a Hispanic male and i doubt very much that AA is fair at all... I dont like the idea of encouraging one group over another no matter what excuse someone could come up with at the end of the day AA IS a form of discrimination.
Affirmative Action was never necessary, either for racial or sexual minorities. All businesses desire to make money, and so they would never hire a white straight male person over a minority if that minority was a better hire. They would want the person who would make them the most money.
These guys in this audio clip are basically full of shit.
Black people have always been seen as "degraded" in this society and nothing had changed in that regard.
The problem with these idiots and others who argue the anti-AA line is that they have no problem preventing blacks and others from getting any opportunities in terms of jobs and colleges but they have nothing concrete to offer these people other than plattitudes.
@MultiSmartass1 maybe blacks are underrepresented because they have a lower average iq? Its a scientific fact, just like that fact that east-africans are better at long distant running than east-asians are
@HuMuSuX Your Nazi white supremacist views aside, it is not a scientific "fact".
You are making the fallacious point that most eugencist scum and race baiters make-that somehow black people are gifted athletes genetically compared to most races.
Why is then that blacks were underepresented in the NFL, MJB And NBA under the past 2-3 decades of the 20th Century?
The reason is simple and obvious-racism.
When in doubt, use Occam's Razor.
Of course, a person of your pun intellect wouldnt get it.
@MultiSmartass1 Have any white person ever run 100m in under 10 seconds? No. You cannot accept the theory of evolution without accepting the fact that humans have evolved differently since they left Africa som 50-90k years ago. So which do you choose? Do you think we were all born alike?
@MultiSmartass1 Do you think that humans are somehow excluded from the theory of evolution? No, I'm not saying that blacks are superior physically; I'm saying that some races have the upper edge in some sports because we have evolved differently (ie. west africans are the best sprinters, east-africans are best at long distant running, caucasians are best at weightlifting etc)
My theory is that this also goes for micro evolution within the brain, and I have all the empiric evidence on my side.
@MultiSmartass1 regardless of whether you accept that there is biological average differences in intellect between different races, there is still a significant, de facto, gap in average iq between blacks and whites in the US. It would be cool if it was othervice, but you only get so far denying reality.
But honestly though, do you honestly believe that east-asians have the same average iq as negros from the kalahari desert?
@MultiSmartass1 You seem to think that all "races", or whatever you prefer to call it, have the same average iq, so I brought up two extremes to prove that this is not the case. So, do you think that both groups have the same average iq (given that they grow up in the same environment)?
I don't hate black people, I'm just stating the obvious. The truth is hate only to those who hate the truth
Why does a recent east european male migrant have to suffer discrimination because west europeans were unfair to minorities and women? Why is everything about visable minorities? It gives you the impression that affirmitive action comes from the opinion that people who look different need to be treated differently.
I will agree that affirmative action benefits white and European Jewish women the most. plus every comment is based on the struggle of a few but not all who are discriminated against... as a white guy who is a 2nd Generation immigrant from Germany, the only white people hated by other whites on the same level as blacks or minorities, and all Americans celebrate genocide of the Natives in October and November (in the US) and nobody cares about the Natives and the US is their land.
AA is the product of white society's demoralizing behavior towards black. End of story. And had they treated them in a civil manner we wouldn't have this unfortunate program today. So, for whites to bitch and complain about this policy since it's creation is based on their behavior is completely beyond logic and reason. Pointing the finger at blacks as being the problem is kind of like accusing your mother for giving birth to you just because your life hasn't gone to your liking.
Affirmative Action Only gives minorities the job if two people have the same qualifications.. it doesnt just give it to the Black or Latino.. and for the record.. White females are affected more by Affirmative Action than Blacks Or Latinos
cont....What about wealthy White business owners who perpetuate the same hiring practices because they have a tendency to hire who they know? Studies show that people are more incline to hire someone who they are familiar with or who they feel they share a commonality with. Nobody bitches and complains about that form of AA.George W. Bush is a prime example of this type of Affirmative Action. A well to do family who got their C average student into an Ivy Leage institution. Shit happens often
fsummerour1982 6 months ago
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fsummerour1982 6 months ago
cont.... AA forces employers and other agencies to take a hard look at candidates and ignore these biases. There is also and underlying notion that Blacks were only admitted solely because of race and not credentials which is bullshit. Race constitutes as a percentage of the decision process and usually, Blacks are just as qualified or even more qualified than there White counterparts. Also, White Women are the largest beneficiaries of AA.
fsummerour1982 6 months ago
I'm truly disturbed by the sweeping generalizations about Blacks and the lack of knowledge about this subject. Until implicit biases towards Blacks and other minority groups disappear, AA will always be needed in this country. If AA was never implemented, qualified Blacks or any other minority groups would have never had a chance to begin with. I hate to burst your bubble but people still have a tendency to judge based off of stereotypes and preconceived notions that are formed by the media.
fsummerour1982 6 months ago
I dont think affirmative action makes any sense anymore... im a Hispanic male and i doubt very much that AA is fair at all... I dont like the idea of encouraging one group over another no matter what excuse someone could come up with at the end of the day AA IS a form of discrimination.
themaniusedtob 7 months ago
Affirmative Action was never necessary, either for racial or sexual minorities. All businesses desire to make money, and so they would never hire a white straight male person over a minority if that minority was a better hire. They would want the person who would make them the most money.
koyunbaba73 7 months ago
@koyunbaba73 Thanks for the comments. I agree.
usaelectionpolls 1 month ago
fuck Affirmative Action
ajsaccount1991 10 months ago
These guys in this audio clip are basically full of shit.
Black people have always been seen as "degraded" in this society and nothing had changed in that regard.
The problem with these idiots and others who argue the anti-AA line is that they have no problem preventing blacks and others from getting any opportunities in terms of jobs and colleges but they have nothing concrete to offer these people other than plattitudes.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 maybe blacks are underrepresented because they have a lower average iq? Its a scientific fact, just like that fact that east-africans are better at long distant running than east-asians are
HuMuSuX 9 months ago
@HuMuSuX Your Nazi white supremacist views aside, it is not a scientific "fact".
You are making the fallacious point that most eugencist scum and race baiters make-that somehow black people are gifted athletes genetically compared to most races.
Why is then that blacks were underepresented in the NFL, MJB And NBA under the past 2-3 decades of the 20th Century?
The reason is simple and obvious-racism.
When in doubt, use Occam's Razor.
Of course, a person of your pun intellect wouldnt get it.
MultiSmartass1 9 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 Have any white person ever run 100m in under 10 seconds? No. You cannot accept the theory of evolution without accepting the fact that humans have evolved differently since they left Africa som 50-90k years ago. So which do you choose? Do you think we were all born alike?
HuMuSuX 9 months ago
@HuMuSuX This isnt the theory of evolution, this is your racist theory.
This is white supremacist claptrap.
The failed notion that blacks are somehow superior physically and inferior intellectually.
All you need to do is look at the varied caucasian athletes in varied sports to ground this theory into dust?
Roger Bannister who broke the 4 minute mile was white and there also have been numerous other white runners of high achievement.
Many NFL stars are white.
Sloppy work, Mr low IQ.
MultiSmartass1 9 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 Do you think that humans are somehow excluded from the theory of evolution? No, I'm not saying that blacks are superior physically; I'm saying that some races have the upper edge in some sports because we have evolved differently (ie. west africans are the best sprinters, east-africans are best at long distant running, caucasians are best at weightlifting etc)
My theory is that this also goes for micro evolution within the brain, and I have all the empiric evidence on my side.
HuMuSuX 9 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 regardless of whether you accept that there is biological average differences in intellect between different races, there is still a significant, de facto, gap in average iq between blacks and whites in the US. It would be cool if it was othervice, but you only get so far denying reality.
But honestly though, do you honestly believe that east-asians have the same average iq as negros from the kalahari desert?
HuMuSuX 9 months ago
@HuMuSuX I didn't bring up differences between blacks and East-Asians-you did.
Again, you are a racist for whom pointing out the facts is difficult due to your inferior level of so-called intelligence.
You-like every other Nazi and white supremacist-need to believe that black people are intellectually inferior because you hate them.
Since you hate them, you try to make IQ levels fit your reasoning much like a child tries to force a round peg into a square hole.
You lack logic or reason.
MultiSmartass1 9 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 You seem to think that all "races", or whatever you prefer to call it, have the same average iq, so I brought up two extremes to prove that this is not the case. So, do you think that both groups have the same average iq (given that they grow up in the same environment)?
I don't hate black people, I'm just stating the obvious. The truth is hate only to those who hate the truth
HuMuSuX 9 months ago
Why does a recent east european male migrant have to suffer discrimination because west europeans were unfair to minorities and women? Why is everything about visable minorities? It gives you the impression that affirmitive action comes from the opinion that people who look different need to be treated differently.
usedx115x 1 year ago
I will agree that affirmative action benefits white and European Jewish women the most. plus every comment is based on the struggle of a few but not all who are discriminated against... as a white guy who is a 2nd Generation immigrant from Germany, the only white people hated by other whites on the same level as blacks or minorities, and all Americans celebrate genocide of the Natives in October and November (in the US) and nobody cares about the Natives and the US is their land.
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
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MozDaTMadda 1 year ago
AA is the product of white society's demoralizing behavior towards black. End of story. And had they treated them in a civil manner we wouldn't have this unfortunate program today. So, for whites to bitch and complain about this policy since it's creation is based on their behavior is completely beyond logic and reason. Pointing the finger at blacks as being the problem is kind of like accusing your mother for giving birth to you just because your life hasn't gone to your liking.
redhibernation 2 years ago
@redhibernation True. So true.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
Affirmative Action Only gives minorities the job if two people have the same qualifications.. it doesnt just give it to the Black or Latino.. and for the record.. White females are affected more by Affirmative Action than Blacks Or Latinos
modd25 2 years ago 2
why end it because it benefitted the white woman
mobfiggak1 2 years ago