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From: vagabondsteve
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  • "All great artists made from suffering"-Dimmu Borgir. Try to live by that through life and my art.

  • You cannot know true joy without also knowing true sorrow. A lot of people blot out anxiety and grief with drugs.

  • Thank you for your postings! They are of great sensitivity.

    LOL

  • You do nothing to help someone who is suffering by joining them in their suffering. 'victims' are addicted to their pain and pity, it keeps them from having to take responsibility for their actions, perpetual victims are not looking for a way out, they are looking for you to validate that they are victims and just a good person with bad luck, rescuer egos are the enablers; while real suffering caused by these 'good' people goes unnoticed, few people want to help someone not acting like a victim

  • you have right perception

  • I believe it is about being aware of both dimensions, but at the same time to be rooted within your true self. Knowing that the pain is real, but that it is also most of the time useless. It is useless because, when you become aware of you truly are, time becomes secondary, which enables most of the suffering to go away.

  • Pain or suffering comes in various forms. Sometimes it can be useless, while other times it can be the fertilizer which fosters spiritual growth. Many spiritual dogmas espouse platitudes which are not practical for the 9-5 working class people. When we embrace pain it becomes fertilizer; when we resist pain it becomes suffering. T.Y. for your comment!

  • Can I ask, what do you do for a job?

  • vagabond

  • being a vagabond supports you financially?

  • Good question. Did you ever get an answer?

  • not quite

  • I understand what you're saying, I agree with you for the most part. We must recognize that suffering is just another part of the whole and not 'reject' it. However, suffering is highly overrated in my opinon and I could do with seeing and experiencing a lot less of it. Dont' you think a great deal of suffering is needless and is often caused by our rejection of true suffering rather than accepting, learning from it, and allowing it to pass as all thing are eventually do?

  • Not that it was intended for me, but the last part here reminds me of what Jung had to say about suffering. Needless suffering and the rejection of real suffering...Real suffering and the acceptance of THAT is what allows for true growth..

  • Agreed most internal suffering is needless drama. It is aggravated with focus on self. It seems to evaporate once we start investing in the lives of others. Suffering is a great spiritual teacher when we surrender to it.

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