beautiful creatures, could learn a lot from them. appreciate their presence. just because the movie Jaws they have a bad rep. those jerks need to be slapped. they can't live anywhere but in the water, man has no right to take them out, don't surf in their habitat if you expect not to be attacked.
it doesn't matter if they are endangered- they should not be killed because there is no reason to kill them. If people had some respect for life maybe God wouldn't despise mankind so much.
GWs are NOT endangered. The Cousteau team couldn't find one in a mere 7 days in South Australia. that's because the bloody things travel and were following the migrating whales up the east coast! Of course Vic knew that but nobody wants to admit that he's right!
yah actually great whites are extremely endangered. Check out the international endangered species' database. Great white sharks are currently logged under critically endangered. They take a long time to grow from juvenile to adult and often don't mature enough to breed and therefore assure future generations.
@bk373904 false statement. The white shark's global population is unknown. There are no accurate population estimates for white sharks. Any scientist would admit that. In addition, the white shark, like all apex creatures, is inherently low in numbers. The higher a species is in the food chain, the less there are (with the exception of humans)
Vic Hislop is a goose,anyone can catch a great white with a sheep for bait and a couple 44 gallon drums,cannot get a real job so have to kill sharks and create hysteria.
The written published conclusions of the expeditions say so. Never once did they say the sharks were close to extinction, never once did they say they couldn't find any, never once did they give a figure of how many were left etc etc. If Fox or the Taylors ever came out with any such comments then that is them. It was the government affiliated SAFD and the Cousteau team who carried out the research and surveys which lead to the protected status. Not Fox etc.
You say the source is incorrect. Hmmmmmm then you better contact the Cousteau Society a guy I was arguing with scanned and posted pages from the book published on those expeditions.....gee someone better get onto Cousteau, after all he owned the Alycone which was the vessel involved. Not really much point debating with you, you will not accept facts. Have fun.
Your source (The Fatal Shores) is incorrect about the 2 year research.
"Hmmmmmm then you better contact the Cousteau Society a guy I was arguing with scanned and posted pages from the book published on those expeditions...."
The ACTUAL quotes from the research team (which I have given you)are found on pages 167 and 168 in the book Great White Shark by Jean Michel Cousteau and Mose Richards.I'll take their written and published conclusions over a journalist.
Never heard of The Fatal Shores before so just did a Google on it. It is nothing more than a newspaper article from the Sydney Morning Herald. As such it is replete with misinformation and unsourced "quotes".
Who exactly said "with just 45 to 50 left here...". There is no quote directly attributed to any specific individual from the Alcyone.
""and after a couple of expeditions with Fox and the Taylors off Port Lincoln,"
Again, newspaper misinformation. The research took place OVER TWO YEARS.
Also, nobody from the Fisheries dept or the Cousteau team ever declared the great white shark was "close to extinction". Again, misinformation.
Here are the exact words of the Cousteau team from their written and published conclusion.
"It is our belief that even if great white sharks are not endangered today (1992), they will be ultimately if present trends continue in their exploitation and accidental capture".
You might want to listen to a newspaper article. I don't.
More reasons why the Australian Government concluded that the great white sharks were declining in numbers.
In the 1960s in the anti shark nets along Australia's east coast, there were 22 other shark species to every 1 great white. By the late 1980s, this had risen to 650 other shark species to every 1 great white.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to acknowledge that great white shark numbers were falling. It is a FACT their numbers were declining.
More actual verifiable quotes from the written and published conclusions of the research pro gramme:
"There is no hard evidence that great white shark populations are now (1992) in danger. But...there are warning signs that cannot be dismissed"
Doesn't sound to me like any declaration of "close to extinction". The reporter, as per usual, obviously misquoted people and took what he wanted. Hey, that happens. The press are well known to take things out of context.
The fact of the matter is that Vic Hislop could go out anytime he wanted during that period and catch Great Whites in a very short period of time. They were not hard to find and he proved that he knew their movements when your government researchers did not.
Fox didn't 'call anyone'. It was Barry Bruce of the South Australian Fisheries Dept who decided to join forces with the Cousteau research vessel. Together, they tagged 40 great white sharks and identified 67 in total. This took the number of sharks tagged to over 200 in 20 years since Ron Taylor's first shark tagging in 1972. You are getting confused. The 200 shark taggings were from 1972 to 1992. Your source is incorrect.
""The fact of the matter is that Vic Hislop could go out anytime he wanted during that period and catch Great Whites in a very short period of time. They were not hard to find""
Well, the government scientists found them too. 67 in fact. They never came back without finding any.
""and he proved that he knew their movements when your government researchers did not.""
They knew their movements. The research team found more individual great white sharks than any other organization ever before.
The research team NEVER said "we can't find any" but rather their opinion was that there were FEWER than in decades gone by. Vic Hislop wasn't around hunting great white sharks in the 1960s and 1970s to notice any difference in numbers. If Hislop had set his hook off Moreton Bay in the 1960s he likely would have caught more great white sharks than just 3 in 3 days. As I said, Alf Dean caught 5 in 1 day in the mid 1960s. 3 in 3 days is nothing compared to that. That's 80% less than Dean caught.
Fox called in acquaintances at the Cousteau Society, and after a couple of expeditions with Fox and the Taylors off Port Lincoln, the researchers aboard Alcyone declared that white pointers were close to extinction in South Australian waters - "with just 45 to 50 left here..." How they established this knowledge of a transient creature in the vastness of the Southern Ocean wasn't revealed, but the figures were often quoted in the campaign to have whites protected.
(Over the same period, 200 white pointers were tagged in a small area off Port Lincoln in an ongoing project to learn more about their movements. Fox says now that the decision to protect whites was based mainly on reduced numbers caught in beach protection nets along Australia's east coast.)
""3 Great Whites in 3 days at a time when the shark was supposed to be in very very small numbers.""
Their numbers were not given. The conclusion was just that their numbers were DECLINING based on dwindling catches (sport and by-catch) over years and including the years the research was carried out. The consensus was that if nothing was done then the great white shark might be in trouble. The SADF never said their numbers were small, just that they were 'smaller' than previously.
And by the way, The Taylors and Rodney Fox had been banging on about fewer great white sharks ever since the early 1970s and nothing was done about it. They were ignored repeatedly. It was only after the GOVERNMENT ITSELF took a look into the situation from 1989 to 1992 that they finally came to the same conclusion....so please stop your rubbish that Fox and co twisted their arms. Fox and co were trying to twist their arms for 20 years with no success. The GOVERNMENT finally saw for itself.
Wrong again you mental giant. Cousteau, Ron and Valerie Taylor and Rodney Fox were counting them and advising the Australian government of the numbers. You don't know a lot do you? You should do some research before you open your uninformed mouth....lol
***Who was 'counting' them? Nobody went around going "one, two, three" and adding them up.***
It was the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN FISHERIES( a branch of the government)which initiated and carried out the research. Cousteau had the ship they used and were based on while the Taylors and Fox were just bit part players. The Taylors only even visited the research team once in over two years. Barry Bruce was the senior South Australian Fisheries Dept scientist involved.You have your facts all wrong. The Australian government took note because it was GOVERNMENT scientists carrying out the research.
3 Great Whites in 3 days at a time when the shark was supposed to be in very very small numbers. Point is he caught those sharks in Queensland when the bean counters were looking for them in South Australia.
Well the below comment of yours totally explains what sort of person you are. You cannot support your opinion with facts so you resort to abuse....Lol. Thick headed uninformed and useless to debate with....funny stuff.
***Well fuck off then arsehole. This isnt YOUR video.***
Yeah that's the problem with people like yourself, you have no common sense and rely only on statistics. The only reason shark attacks have fallen is because of increased awareness and patrols.
People like you have to understand that nature has it's own way of managing the very top apex predators. Great white sharks got along fine for millions of years. Then (mainly post WW2)when great white sharks were being fished for sport or accidentally caught as by-catch by increasing commercial fisheries operations or caught in anti shark nets in Australia and South Africa this affected their delicate ecological balance.
Numbers did not fall as you say, it was simply that the people counting the sharks didn't know what they were doing and were looking in the wrong place as was proven by Vic Hislop when he went out and caught three in as many days in Moreton Bay in Queensland when the bean counters were looking in South Australia.
The shark were following the whale migration as they do every year.....but then again you would have only heard of that recently wouldn't you?
""Vic Hislop when he went out and caught three in as many days in Moreton Bay in Queensland""
Is that all? That's not much. Alf Dean caught FIVE IN ONE DAY back in the 1960s.
Hislop would have caught a lot more than 3 in 3 days if their numbers were not falling. A good and dedicated shark killer like Hislop probably would have caught 10 in the same time during the 1950s or 1960s.
It is impossible to count Great White Sharks, it cannot be done. No one really knows how many there are or how many there were due to the fact they migrate long distance for example from South Africa to Australia.
You must understand the sharks do not que up on request to be counted.
As I said go to shark attacks at ezeboard if you want to debate. I am sick of debating people who don't know what they are talking about.
Who was 'counting' them? Nobody went around going "one, two, three" and adding them up.
Sightings were down, game fishing catches were down, commercial by catches were down. Great white sharks were diminishing in numbers in the 1970s and 1980s. This was happening worldwide and fishing for great white sharks became ever more popular.
Since they have been protected their numbers have been getting better but that's only because they were being fished out in the 1970s and 1980s.
I suggest you go to Shark Attacks ezeboard forum where you can find plenty of like minded people. That way you can all assure each other you are correct as shark numbers, sightings and attacks increase.
You can believe whatever you want to but the simple fact of the matter is you are incorrect. The Great White is not endangered, never was endangered and is prolific numbers around the Australian coastline turning up regularly at beaches at an alarming rate. Has even been found in a freshwater lake system.
The great white shark was endangered. Numbers fell in Australia and elsewhere. That's why they were given protected status, not just in Australia but in many many other places. Nowadays their numbers are better than they were in the 1980s and early 1990s.
By the way, shark attacks numbers were DOWN last year, and the year before. It's been a very quiet last few years for Australian shark attacks.
Obviously you don't know a lot about the food chain in our oceans....which is not unusual for anti Vic Hislop knockers.
The dolphin and the porpise are a staple of the large sharks diet. Nearly every large shark Vic ever caught had one inside it. So the sharks are eating the dolphins.
The point is that nothing eats the sharks. Orcas will feed on whales if they do not have enough fish.
So then the large sharks are necessary to keep the numbers of seals and dolphins and turtles down so they don't eat all the fish. It's these animals that are eating the fish. Large sharks are vital to keep their numbers in check. Large sharks don't need to be kept in check because they are few in number. That's how the apex system works.
"Obviously you don't know a lot about the food chain in our oceans...."
It's the same worldwide. Plus, the Americans and South Africans etc etc all came (independently) to the conclusion that great white shark numbers were decreasing and that something should be done about it. In fact, South Africa was the first country to ban hunting great white sharks. That had nothing to do with cage dives because South Africa didn't even have a cage diving industry then.
Nothing preys upon the big sharks they are an Apex Predator and sit at the top of the food chain.
Large sharks are worthless as food because of the mercury content of their flesh so are not actively fished for. But the salmon and the tuna are eaten by everyone and everything.
It is largely man who is decimating the fish stocks not the Orca or other creatures.
Man creates the imbalance and everything goes downhill from there right along the food chain.
Vic Hislop has always maintained that cage diving trains Great Whites to recognise the human shape as a food source and today many people around the world agree with him. The Great Whites can smell the food that attracts them to the cage and when it gets there it sees humans but cannot get at them, it swims away hungry with an imprint of the human shape in it's brain. We have all seen footage of the Great Whites having a go at the cages with the divers in them.
Someone here thinks Rodney Fox is the better Great White expert. Rodney Fox was part of the team that convinced the Australian government to protect the Great White, which of course protected Rodney's multi million dollar cage diving business so Rodney Fox had a vested interest in seeing the shark protected.
""Rodney Fox was part of the team that convinced the Australian government to protect the Great White,""
Actually, the Australian government itself was affiliated via one of it's branches. It was the Dept of Fisheries that instigated and was the major player in finding out about the status of great white sharks. Their research, combined with bycatch information from fishermen, led to the conclusion that great white sharks had been declining in numbers since the 1960s.
When this happened Vic Hislop was very vocal about cage diving and the fact the Great White shark was not endangered in Australian waters and the fact Rodney and the other researchers couldn't find any was because the bulk of the Great Whites were in Queensland following the annual Humpback Whale migration.
To prove his point Vic Hislop went out in his boat in Moreton Bay in Queensland and caught three Great White sharks in as many days.....hardly an endangered species if they can be readily caught like that. Today in Australia we have Great Whites popping up everywhere.
Vis should be respected as a first hand shark fishing expert. He has seen some of the waters greatest apex predators and made a living out of it. He (Vic) was even honored by being offered a chance to save RARE dwarf Minke whale by Tiger sharks. His courage and efforts to save that whale made for a great story.
Many of the posters here seem to think Vic is still out there hunting sharks when he is pretty much retired as a full time shark hunter and has been for a long time now.
Sorry people who knock Vic Hislop don't know what they are talking about.
Vic Hislop has never claimed that sharks should be slaughtered "on masse" he simply pointed out that while the human race is decimating the fish stocks the large sharks are not being fished for and this creates a dangerous imbalance in our oceans.
Seems to me he was always correct.
And it does not cost $20 to get into his shark exhibition so the person who said they paid that for admission is a liar.
""he simply pointed out that while the human race is decimating the fish stocks the large sharks are not being fished for and this creates a dangerous imbalance in our oceans.""
So why doesn't he advocate killing dolphins, orcas and seals as well then? They eat the 'fish stocks' too.
It wouldn't be only sharks 'creating an imbalance' you know.
How about popping off some pinnipeds from South Australia?
Well one thing this thread does is to show the type of people who inhabit You Tube.
Oddly enough many of Vic Hislops theories are now proven. Vic always claimed Great Whites migrated long distances and was called an idiot. Now we have satellite tags and indeed we now know Vic Hislop was a 100% correct, they do migrate long distances.
I don't support this guy. He says that sharks willingly attack humans with the intent of eating them. Catching sharks that are close to being an endangered species earns no respect from me. If a shark fully intended to eat a human, why do most of the shark attack victims survive? I mean, honestly, look at a great white...if it really intended to eat a person, why doesn't it return after the first bite?
Interestingly, there are two types of shark attacks, shark attacks where the victim was in close contact to other humans and attacks where the victim was alone. In almost every case where the victim was alone they were partially consumed, meaning the shark took more than one bite. It seems that the reason that the majority of shark attacks don't result in consumption is because the individual was able to get themselves out or was aided by others out of the water.
Vic Hislop is a friend of mine you ignorant prick! You are just a pompous asshole likely from England that dosen't know a shark from your mothers piss-flaps, rude cocksucker!
i went to this dickheads place in queensland once and he was charging 20 bucks to have a look at the DEAD white shark, i wouldn't give this prick the peanuts outa my shit! ignorant aussie twat!!!
i went to this dickheads place in queensland once and he was charging 20 bucks to have a look at the DEAD white shark, i wouldn't give this prick the peanuts outa my shit! ignorant aussie twat!!!
vic hislop is a monster of a man that doesn't know what he's talking about.joeypoison what you say is true to an extent not so when sharks are so rare.
He doesn't research sharks he hunts them then tries to justify it by donating their bodies for research we'd learn a lot more from them living.The oceans were working just fine before vic hislop it's our own influence that has caused a problem, he should not be supported for what he does at all!
Great whites fasinate and scare the hell out of me. i saw these frozen sharks when i went to oz about 7 years ago, and i couldnt go near the tank incase it suddenly turned its head!
Billions of fish get culled off daily by fisherman etc. you cant just kill all the lil fish, Vic just helps evening out the ratio of differnt size animals in the ocean.
This man has done more research on great whites then any one, stop taking easy shots at the poor man who has made a living out researching and risking his life with the deadlist animal alive.
Ah yes. Rodney Fox. A true genius. A shark trainer extroadinaire. He's the one who once stuffed a wetsuit to make it look like a surfer, strapped it to a surfboard, dumped burley to attract sharks and then filmed the wetsuit being ripped to pieces. He also makes money from dumb fucks who jump into cages after the water has been burleyed. Sharks have enough intelligence to associate humans in wet suits from that point on with something yummy smelling and tasting.
As a kid, I grew up round the corner from Vic's. He would bring his "catch" on to the beach(in front of his Shop) and we would all go down & touch the sharks. They feel like sandpaper. That happened probably 20 times. Awesome place, be sure to go when/if you come here.
vic hislop is and idiot! narrow minded
ZoodiakMusic 1 month ago
they have probably shot this poor shark like they shot palestinians
Gurbetci83 1 year ago
@Gurbetci83 Who said they shot it. It could have dies of natural causes.
GhostVenom051 1 year ago 2
poor shark :(
crazydog155 1 year ago
hometrooths135@ we do need them because they eat all the dead meat floating around in the sea.
mwomwell 1 year ago 3
but..... who said that these people killed them. this shark may have died naturally and now being preserved.
19celtics87 1 year ago
beautiful creatures, could learn a lot from them. appreciate their presence. just because the movie Jaws they have a bad rep. those jerks need to be slapped. they can't live anywhere but in the water, man has no right to take them out, don't surf in their habitat if you expect not to be attacked.
19celtics87 1 year ago
Comment removed
19celtics87 1 year ago
Vic Hislop is a Pedophile
raoulmoatify 1 year ago
there was no need to kill that shark!!!!
69deejayphantom69 1 year ago 2
it doesn't matter if they are endangered- they should not be killed because there is no reason to kill them. If people had some respect for life maybe God wouldn't despise mankind so much.
mikethebike7 1 year ago
that shark looks really neat! but i would not want to wake up and have that frozen shark in my sight
Justinian43 2 years ago
GWs are NOT endangered. The Cousteau team couldn't find one in a mere 7 days in South Australia. that's because the bloody things travel and were following the migrating whales up the east coast! Of course Vic knew that but nobody wants to admit that he's right!
bigbadnewman 2 years ago
Hislop is more realistic than most of the trendy "sharkhuggers"
alanbstard4 2 years ago
yah actually great whites are extremely endangered. Check out the international endangered species' database. Great white sharks are currently logged under critically endangered. They take a long time to grow from juvenile to adult and often don't mature enough to breed and therefore assure future generations.
bk373904 2 years ago
Bullshit!
I live on Australia's east coast and it's lousy with the damn things.,
bigbadnewman 2 years ago
good,they should be extinct !!! nobody needs them
hometrooths135 2 years ago
@hometrooths135 really intelligent statement genius.
Sextonius 1 year ago
@bk373904 false statement. The white shark's global population is unknown. There are no accurate population estimates for white sharks. Any scientist would admit that. In addition, the white shark, like all apex creatures, is inherently low in numbers. The higher a species is in the food chain, the less there are (with the exception of humans)
Sextonius 1 year ago
hislop is a stupid man
blackwiz23 2 years ago
And your a Stupid Clown who does not know what he is talking about! :D
hdcameraguy 1 year ago
There is NO good shark hunter!!!
sherman4970 2 years ago 6
Hislop is the best sharkhunter.
RobertArchibaldShaw 3 years ago
@RobertArchibaldShaw yeah out of all the douchebag, ignorant shark hunters
Sextonius 1 year ago
Vic Hislop is a goose,anyone can catch a great white with a sheep for bait and a couple 44 gallon drums,cannot get a real job so have to kill sharks and create hysteria.
millsbucks 3 years ago
here here he is a clown wot he does is discusting should him for bait
craigsux 3 years ago
ive been there
Brad360korn 3 years ago 2
AWESOME!
Kailgliemezis 3 years ago
y iz u guys argueing
babyyamie1 3 years ago
If you say so Lyndon.....lol
Gotcha29 3 years ago
The written published conclusions of the expeditions say so. Never once did they say the sharks were close to extinction, never once did they say they couldn't find any, never once did they give a figure of how many were left etc etc. If Fox or the Taylors ever came out with any such comments then that is them. It was the government affiliated SAFD and the Cousteau team who carried out the research and surveys which lead to the protected status. Not Fox etc.
Mangani245 3 years ago
You say the source is incorrect. Hmmmmmm then you better contact the Cousteau Society a guy I was arguing with scanned and posted pages from the book published on those expeditions.....gee someone better get onto Cousteau, after all he owned the Alycone which was the vessel involved. Not really much point debating with you, you will not accept facts. Have fun.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
"You say the source is incorrect"
Your source (The Fatal Shores) is incorrect about the 2 year research.
"Hmmmmmm then you better contact the Cousteau Society a guy I was arguing with scanned and posted pages from the book published on those expeditions...."
The ACTUAL quotes from the research team (which I have given you)are found on pages 167 and 168 in the book Great White Shark by Jean Michel Cousteau and Mose Richards.I'll take their written and published conclusions over a journalist.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Never heard of The Fatal Shores before so just did a Google on it. It is nothing more than a newspaper article from the Sydney Morning Herald. As such it is replete with misinformation and unsourced "quotes".
Who exactly said "with just 45 to 50 left here...". There is no quote directly attributed to any specific individual from the Alcyone.
""and after a couple of expeditions with Fox and the Taylors off Port Lincoln,"
Again, newspaper misinformation. The research took place OVER TWO YEARS.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Also, nobody from the Fisheries dept or the Cousteau team ever declared the great white shark was "close to extinction". Again, misinformation.
Here are the exact words of the Cousteau team from their written and published conclusion.
"It is our belief that even if great white sharks are not endangered today (1992), they will be ultimately if present trends continue in their exploitation and accidental capture".
You might want to listen to a newspaper article. I don't.
Mangani245 3 years ago
More reasons why the Australian Government concluded that the great white sharks were declining in numbers.
In the 1960s in the anti shark nets along Australia's east coast, there were 22 other shark species to every 1 great white. By the late 1980s, this had risen to 650 other shark species to every 1 great white.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to acknowledge that great white shark numbers were falling. It is a FACT their numbers were declining.
Mangani245 3 years ago
More actual verifiable quotes from the written and published conclusions of the research pro gramme:
"There is no hard evidence that great white shark populations are now (1992) in danger. But...there are warning signs that cannot be dismissed"
Doesn't sound to me like any declaration of "close to extinction". The reporter, as per usual, obviously misquoted people and took what he wanted. Hey, that happens. The press are well known to take things out of context.
Mangani245 3 years ago
The fact of the matter is that Vic Hislop could go out anytime he wanted during that period and catch Great Whites in a very short period of time. They were not hard to find and he proved that he knew their movements when your government researchers did not.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Fox didn't 'call anyone'. It was Barry Bruce of the South Australian Fisheries Dept who decided to join forces with the Cousteau research vessel. Together, they tagged 40 great white sharks and identified 67 in total. This took the number of sharks tagged to over 200 in 20 years since Ron Taylor's first shark tagging in 1972. You are getting confused. The 200 shark taggings were from 1972 to 1992. Your source is incorrect.
Mangani245 3 years ago
""The fact of the matter is that Vic Hislop could go out anytime he wanted during that period and catch Great Whites in a very short period of time. They were not hard to find""
Well, the government scientists found them too. 67 in fact. They never came back without finding any.
""and he proved that he knew their movements when your government researchers did not.""
They knew their movements. The research team found more individual great white sharks than any other organization ever before.
Mangani245 3 years ago
The research team NEVER said "we can't find any" but rather their opinion was that there were FEWER than in decades gone by. Vic Hislop wasn't around hunting great white sharks in the 1960s and 1970s to notice any difference in numbers. If Hislop had set his hook off Moreton Bay in the 1960s he likely would have caught more great white sharks than just 3 in 3 days. As I said, Alf Dean caught 5 in 1 day in the mid 1960s. 3 in 3 days is nothing compared to that. That's 80% less than Dean caught.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Sigh....you are talking about the Cousteau expeditions as mentioned in the article Fatal Shores.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Fox called in acquaintances at the Cousteau Society, and after a couple of expeditions with Fox and the Taylors off Port Lincoln, the researchers aboard Alcyone declared that white pointers were close to extinction in South Australian waters - "with just 45 to 50 left here..." How they established this knowledge of a transient creature in the vastness of the Southern Ocean wasn't revealed, but the figures were often quoted in the campaign to have whites protected.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
(Over the same period, 200 white pointers were tagged in a small area off Port Lincoln in an ongoing project to learn more about their movements. Fox says now that the decision to protect whites was based mainly on reduced numbers caught in beach protection nets along Australia's east coast.)
Gotcha29 3 years ago
""3 Great Whites in 3 days at a time when the shark was supposed to be in very very small numbers.""
Their numbers were not given. The conclusion was just that their numbers were DECLINING based on dwindling catches (sport and by-catch) over years and including the years the research was carried out. The consensus was that if nothing was done then the great white shark might be in trouble. The SADF never said their numbers were small, just that they were 'smaller' than previously.
Mangani245 3 years ago
And by the way, The Taylors and Rodney Fox had been banging on about fewer great white sharks ever since the early 1970s and nothing was done about it. They were ignored repeatedly. It was only after the GOVERNMENT ITSELF took a look into the situation from 1989 to 1992 that they finally came to the same conclusion....so please stop your rubbish that Fox and co twisted their arms. Fox and co were trying to twist their arms for 20 years with no success. The GOVERNMENT finally saw for itself.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Wrong again you mental giant. Cousteau, Ron and Valerie Taylor and Rodney Fox were counting them and advising the Australian government of the numbers. You don't know a lot do you? You should do some research before you open your uninformed mouth....lol
***Who was 'counting' them? Nobody went around going "one, two, three" and adding them up.***
Gotcha29 3 years ago
It was the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN FISHERIES( a branch of the government)which initiated and carried out the research. Cousteau had the ship they used and were based on while the Taylors and Fox were just bit part players. The Taylors only even visited the research team once in over two years. Barry Bruce was the senior South Australian Fisheries Dept scientist involved.You have your facts all wrong. The Australian government took note because it was GOVERNMENT scientists carrying out the research.
Mangani245 3 years ago
3 Great Whites in 3 days at a time when the shark was supposed to be in very very small numbers. Point is he caught those sharks in Queensland when the bean counters were looking for them in South Australia.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Well the below comment of yours totally explains what sort of person you are. You cannot support your opinion with facts so you resort to abuse....Lol. Thick headed uninformed and useless to debate with....funny stuff.
***Well fuck off then arsehole. This isnt YOUR video.***
Gotcha29 3 years ago
""I am sick of debating people who don't know what they are talking about.""
Well fuck off then arsehole. This isnt YOUR video.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Yeah that's the problem with people like yourself, you have no common sense and rely only on statistics. The only reason shark attacks have fallen is because of increased awareness and patrols.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
People like you have to understand that nature has it's own way of managing the very top apex predators. Great white sharks got along fine for millions of years. Then (mainly post WW2)when great white sharks were being fished for sport or accidentally caught as by-catch by increasing commercial fisheries operations or caught in anti shark nets in Australia and South Africa this affected their delicate ecological balance.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Numbers did not fall as you say, it was simply that the people counting the sharks didn't know what they were doing and were looking in the wrong place as was proven by Vic Hislop when he went out and caught three in as many days in Moreton Bay in Queensland when the bean counters were looking in South Australia.
The shark were following the whale migration as they do every year.....but then again you would have only heard of that recently wouldn't you?
Gotcha29 3 years ago
""Vic Hislop when he went out and caught three in as many days in Moreton Bay in Queensland""
Is that all? That's not much. Alf Dean caught FIVE IN ONE DAY back in the 1960s.
Hislop would have caught a lot more than 3 in 3 days if their numbers were not falling. A good and dedicated shark killer like Hislop probably would have caught 10 in the same time during the 1950s or 1960s.
3 in 3 days is nothing.
Mangani245 3 years ago
It is impossible to count Great White Sharks, it cannot be done. No one really knows how many there are or how many there were due to the fact they migrate long distance for example from South Africa to Australia.
You must understand the sharks do not que up on request to be counted.
As I said go to shark attacks at ezeboard if you want to debate. I am sick of debating people who don't know what they are talking about.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Who was 'counting' them? Nobody went around going "one, two, three" and adding them up.
Sightings were down, game fishing catches were down, commercial by catches were down. Great white sharks were diminishing in numbers in the 1970s and 1980s. This was happening worldwide and fishing for great white sharks became ever more popular.
Since they have been protected their numbers have been getting better but that's only because they were being fished out in the 1970s and 1980s.
Mangani245 3 years ago
I suggest you go to Shark Attacks ezeboard forum where you can find plenty of like minded people. That way you can all assure each other you are correct as shark numbers, sightings and attacks increase.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
You can believe whatever you want to but the simple fact of the matter is you are incorrect. The Great White is not endangered, never was endangered and is prolific numbers around the Australian coastline turning up regularly at beaches at an alarming rate. Has even been found in a freshwater lake system.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
The great white shark was endangered. Numbers fell in Australia and elsewhere. That's why they were given protected status, not just in Australia but in many many other places. Nowadays their numbers are better than they were in the 1980s and early 1990s.
By the way, shark attacks numbers were DOWN last year, and the year before. It's been a very quiet last few years for Australian shark attacks.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Obviously you don't know a lot about the food chain in our oceans....which is not unusual for anti Vic Hislop knockers.
The dolphin and the porpise are a staple of the large sharks diet. Nearly every large shark Vic ever caught had one inside it. So the sharks are eating the dolphins.
The point is that nothing eats the sharks. Orcas will feed on whales if they do not have enough fish.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
So then the large sharks are necessary to keep the numbers of seals and dolphins and turtles down so they don't eat all the fish. It's these animals that are eating the fish. Large sharks are vital to keep their numbers in check. Large sharks don't need to be kept in check because they are few in number. That's how the apex system works.
Mangani245 3 years ago
"Obviously you don't know a lot about the food chain in our oceans...."
It's the same worldwide. Plus, the Americans and South Africans etc etc all came (independently) to the conclusion that great white shark numbers were decreasing and that something should be done about it. In fact, South Africa was the first country to ban hunting great white sharks. That had nothing to do with cage dives because South Africa didn't even have a cage diving industry then.
Mangani245 3 years ago
Nothing preys upon the big sharks they are an Apex Predator and sit at the top of the food chain.
Large sharks are worthless as food because of the mercury content of their flesh so are not actively fished for. But the salmon and the tuna are eaten by everyone and everything.
It is largely man who is decimating the fish stocks not the Orca or other creatures.
Man creates the imbalance and everything goes downhill from there right along the food chain.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
C'on Gotcha, come back to the forum, you know you want to..
C
kebab101 3 years ago
Vic Hislop has always maintained that cage diving trains Great Whites to recognise the human shape as a food source and today many people around the world agree with him. The Great Whites can smell the food that attracts them to the cage and when it gets there it sees humans but cannot get at them, it swims away hungry with an imprint of the human shape in it's brain. We have all seen footage of the Great Whites having a go at the cages with the divers in them.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Someone here thinks Rodney Fox is the better Great White expert. Rodney Fox was part of the team that convinced the Australian government to protect the Great White, which of course protected Rodney's multi million dollar cage diving business so Rodney Fox had a vested interest in seeing the shark protected.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
""Rodney Fox was part of the team that convinced the Australian government to protect the Great White,""
Actually, the Australian government itself was affiliated via one of it's branches. It was the Dept of Fisheries that instigated and was the major player in finding out about the status of great white sharks. Their research, combined with bycatch information from fishermen, led to the conclusion that great white sharks had been declining in numbers since the 1960s.
Mangani245 3 years ago
When this happened Vic Hislop was very vocal about cage diving and the fact the Great White shark was not endangered in Australian waters and the fact Rodney and the other researchers couldn't find any was because the bulk of the Great Whites were in Queensland following the annual Humpback Whale migration.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
To prove his point Vic Hislop went out in his boat in Moreton Bay in Queensland and caught three Great White sharks in as many days.....hardly an endangered species if they can be readily caught like that. Today in Australia we have Great Whites popping up everywhere.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Gary,
what's up brother!
Vis should be respected as a first hand shark fishing expert. He has seen some of the waters greatest apex predators and made a living out of it. He (Vic) was even honored by being offered a chance to save RARE dwarf Minke whale by Tiger sharks. His courage and efforts to save that whale made for a great story.
Talk to you soon,
-Pete
yankees215102 3 years ago
Many of the posters here seem to think Vic is still out there hunting sharks when he is pretty much retired as a full time shark hunter and has been for a long time now.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Sorry people who knock Vic Hislop don't know what they are talking about.
Vic Hislop has never claimed that sharks should be slaughtered "on masse" he simply pointed out that while the human race is decimating the fish stocks the large sharks are not being fished for and this creates a dangerous imbalance in our oceans.
Seems to me he was always correct.
And it does not cost $20 to get into his shark exhibition so the person who said they paid that for admission is a liar.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
""he simply pointed out that while the human race is decimating the fish stocks the large sharks are not being fished for and this creates a dangerous imbalance in our oceans.""
So why doesn't he advocate killing dolphins, orcas and seals as well then? They eat the 'fish stocks' too.
It wouldn't be only sharks 'creating an imbalance' you know.
How about popping off some pinnipeds from South Australia?
Mangani245 3 years ago
Unlike todays scientists Vic managed to work that one out without satellite tags.
Vic Hislop also predicted large sharks coming closer to shore as our fish stock decline and sure enough that is what the world is seeing today.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
Well one thing this thread does is to show the type of people who inhabit You Tube.
Oddly enough many of Vic Hislops theories are now proven. Vic always claimed Great Whites migrated long distances and was called an idiot. Now we have satellite tags and indeed we now know Vic Hislop was a 100% correct, they do migrate long distances.
Gotcha29 3 years ago
I don't support this guy. He says that sharks willingly attack humans with the intent of eating them. Catching sharks that are close to being an endangered species earns no respect from me. If a shark fully intended to eat a human, why do most of the shark attack victims survive? I mean, honestly, look at a great white...if it really intended to eat a person, why doesn't it return after the first bite?
ladyvampirella 3 years ago
Interestingly, there are two types of shark attacks, shark attacks where the victim was in close contact to other humans and attacks where the victim was alone. In almost every case where the victim was alone they were partially consumed, meaning the shark took more than one bite. It seems that the reason that the majority of shark attacks don't result in consumption is because the individual was able to get themselves out or was aided by others out of the water.
thegirl44 3 years ago
Vic Hislop is a total pussy. He attempts to be "Mr Macho" by killing sharks. Not only is he a pussy, he is a moron as well.
robertchatillion 3 years ago
Vic hislop is evil pure and simple. And we have bigger sharks in england so i guess we must know a little about sharks
onethousandbluebells 3 years ago
vic is a top guy. if you think other wise suck me off THANK YOU.
serbboy82 3 years ago
Vic Hislop is a friend of mine you ignorant prick! You are just a pompous asshole likely from England that dosen't know a shark from your mothers piss-flaps, rude cocksucker!
pumkin2nd 4 years ago
being from england doesn't mean shit. I'm english, you cock.
SharkSkull 3 years ago
reckon it would of looked a lot better alive!!
i went to this dickheads place in queensland once and he was charging 20 bucks to have a look at the DEAD white shark, i wouldn't give this prick the peanuts outa my shit! ignorant aussie twat!!!
bobofett1974 4 years ago
reckon it would of looked a lot better alive!!
i went to this dickheads place in queensland once and he was charging 20 bucks to have a look at the DEAD white shark, i wouldn't give this prick the peanuts outa my shit! ignorant aussie twat!!!
bobofett1974 4 years ago
vic hislop is a monster of a man that doesn't know what he's talking about.joeypoison what you say is true to an extent not so when sharks are so rare.
He doesn't research sharks he hunts them then tries to justify it by donating their bodies for research we'd learn a lot more from them living.The oceans were working just fine before vic hislop it's our own influence that has caused a problem, he should not be supported for what he does at all!
Nereid23 4 years ago
Great whites fasinate and scare the hell out of me. i saw these frozen sharks when i went to oz about 7 years ago, and i couldnt go near the tank incase it suddenly turned its head!
beavermed 4 years ago
Haha your a douche bag, You dont under stand.
Billions of fish get culled off daily by fisherman etc. you cant just kill all the lil fish, Vic just helps evening out the ratio of differnt size animals in the ocean.
This man has done more research on great whites then any one, stop taking easy shots at the poor man who has made a living out researching and risking his life with the deadlist animal alive.
XXX
xJOEYPOISONx 4 years ago
ah fuk off dickhead!
vic aint got shit on TROY DANN
hchcjacko 4 years ago 2
i think your find that rodney fox is a far superior shark expert
onethousandbluebells 3 years ago
Ah yes. Rodney Fox. A true genius. A shark trainer extroadinaire. He's the one who once stuffed a wetsuit to make it look like a surfer, strapped it to a surfboard, dumped burley to attract sharks and then filmed the wetsuit being ripped to pieces. He also makes money from dumb fucks who jump into cages after the water has been burleyed. Sharks have enough intelligence to associate humans in wet suits from that point on with something yummy smelling and tasting.
kadoelen2006 3 years ago
man that would've been something to see when it was alive and swimming around. sharks rule.
rondarb 4 years ago
As a kid, I grew up round the corner from Vic's. He would bring his "catch" on to the beach(in front of his Shop) and we would all go down & touch the sharks. They feel like sandpaper. That happened probably 20 times. Awesome place, be sure to go when/if you come here.
LittlestLisa 4 years ago
imagine if you are inside want to touch this frozen shark and suddenly the shark moves its tail :D
GibsonRulz 4 years ago
beutiful shark
digrison 4 years ago