This whole steroid debate is absolutely stupid in my opinion. Yeah, if you want it banned from competitive sports, so be it. I'm fine with it, as an organization has the right to decide not to force people to risk their lives to make the cut.
But, this whole "steriods are wrong/bad" thing needs to stop. People put what they want into their own bodies. Bottom line.
It especially makes me laugh when people are anti-steroids and pro choice. Double standard.
Lol taking steroids when you're young might help your career but what about when you turn 50? All that artificial muscle is going to turn on you and ruin your body! Liver and kidney problems high blood pressure, just to name a few....
Bullshit...Vince covers up alot of shit to avoid getting into big trouble...These big ass wrestlers then and now dont get big on their own...Come on man Cena is huge Mason Ryan is huge...Steroids are still helping them stay big but it will all back fire when they die from the use
most of it is locker room envy with getting bigger...you see a guy in the locker room bigger than you, your going to train to get bigger... if you ever played high school or college football you'd understand..
I don't give a shit if wrestlers take steriods, unless Vince is forcing them to take it like Billy Jack Haynes said. If they do it on their own, that's their desician and their life. They wanna fuck themselves up with roids, their choice.
I love people who talk about these guys taking steroids. If I fucking want to watch some average sized pussies with some definition, I'll watch fucking Jersey Shore, when I watch wrestling, I want the fucking adrenaline rush, and it's very easy to get it when you see a 303lb dude with 24inch arms, bodyslamming a 520lb monster, or a 7'0/317lb dude who's built like a "diesel truck", jackknife powerbomb someone....
In short, get CM Punk to bodyslam the Big Show, then we'll talk, if not, shut up
Yeah Vince only gives a sh*t about steroids on wrestlers if they get caught. I dare say he will encourage use on the ones who want to be pushed to the top of WWE.
Fact is Vince is not their father. These are grown ass men in tights who are acting and make dumb decisions that vince cannot make for them. It is like a movie star main protagonist wanting to look big so he takes steroids, Do we blame the director or whoever is in charge of the movie set no because like wwe they are not competing. Vince was proven innocent thanks to hogan that he does not supply nor push people to take them. how do you know these wrestlers aren't lying lol
@SnakeCIA1 I grumble about Vince on so many levels. But I can never call him a dummy. He is no doubt wise to what the wrestlers go through to get to WWE and stay there.
McMahon is a pimp. And pimps don't care about their whores. The WWF didn't force wrestlers to take steroids. They didn't have to. The guys they hired and pushed were on the juice.
@yimpka Are you kidding me? I don't even wanna argue you into any corners..They created magic in the 80's and 90's, made a lot of people rich. I'll just say at the end of the day he's a self made billionaire. Not get your smock on and head to Wal-Mart
@paco0384 Hey beaner....do you know how many people died cause he wanted all his wrestlers looking like jacked up super heroes. 2 thinks Pedro....Money aint everything...and I wanna see your papers Jose!
its true and not so true at the same time becuz look at The Rock , Steve austin and mick foley HUGE stars in the best era of wrestling and nun were on steroid
All Wrestlers and bodybuilders have taken steroids at some time or the other in their lives. Today steroids are banned but that still dosent mean that Vince is responsible. The wrestlers are grown men and taking or not taking steroids is entirely their choice.
Vince McMahon is known to lie through his teeth each and every time. Wrestlers have been taking steroids in the WWF/WWE for so long that it is ludicrous for Vince to come out and say that they don't use substance abuse. There are wrestlers who formerly wrestled for Vince who beg to differ with him. Billy Jack Haynes and Superstar Billy Graham are two of them.
This is total bullshit Cena has been champ 20 times got dammit if this was the case why can't somebody like Kofi Kingston Christian or Matt Hardy be a wwe or world champ
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Vince didn't make Hulk Hogan a millionaire. If WCW could have gotten a hold of that audio byte during the Monday Night Wars, they'd have really rubbed it in his face.
Despite all the hatemail I'm gonna get from this cena said in a interview that alot of wrestlers after their carres admit to using them like the rock but also if they are big stars they only get suspended for a week and cena think they should get arrested like everyone else
And to lennywwe: The Hulkster has admitted to using steroids throughout his whole career. Its public knowledge. There is also very limited evidence that steroids alone, even when used in high dosages, can actually kill you.
wo wo wo ... mcmhan .. is saying tht hulk hougan used steroieds lol comon ... maby 1 or 2 time but no more than that .. steroieds will kill you yea hulk was mucle but he wornt all steroid.. if you ask me .. i think khali is using steroids .. comon look at him he is taller than big show , khali is 7,3.. rightt and he is 420lb well look he is mucles and i hink hw takes sterids coz he is a monster and he is so srong 1 of the strongest or the strongest wwe sperstars in the wwe well thas my .view
@lennywwe At the time when Vince had to go on Trial, Hulk Hogan took the stand and said that he took Steroids. He said that Vince in no way made him take them or helped him get them. Hogan is the one that said it not Vince. Also around the time some wrestlers took then they were not against the law. This sound clip is from the 1980's.
American fighter pilots and classical musicians take steroids, the same kind that wrestlers take, in order to perform. Pro athletes shouldn't take them because everyone needs to be on par. Wrestling is entertainment, so no real competition, so they should be allowed to take steroids.
I like jericho, but I wouldn't say he's steroid free. Just because you don't have a six pack doesn't mean you don't use roids. He packed on alot of bulk after leaving wcw for wwf. I would almost be willing to bet he used steroids at some point. That excess bulk and the lifts in his boots ruined his wrestling. He's a shell of what he was 10 years ago.
@FunkyMonk6969 If they want to take things that will set a chain reaction inside with their organs, etc. I couldn't care less. Just don't ask me to help dig their graves or shed a tear when their heart locks up.
@FunkyMonk6969 the point is not if they should or shouldn't. it is that in the audio he is saying that the wrestlers are tested. From the footage presented you can decide for yourself whether you think they are indeed tested or not.
@FunkyMonk6969 The problem with that thought is, no, but he's their boss. And just like any field of employment, they'll step in when someone is using an illegal drug. Aside from that, there's a business aspect. as a business man, you want to keep your product around to make money. When steroids (or any harmful substance) becomes too much of an issue, the business man either tries to find a way to solve the problem or cut the link altogether.
I love how he says "they" don't push the wrestlers, the public decides. If that were true we wouldn't be having Super Cena shoved down our throats for the past 3 years.
They buy the merchandise because he has so much of it! WWE decided to cover Cena with T Shirts, caps, stupid belts, ect. Same with the new DX. If they turned heel and started wearing just one plain t shirt, nobody would buy it.
@Alexv79 Sadly the public is deciding on Cena. Just not the right public. Not the true wrestling fans who want to see good wrestlers get a push but the little kiddies who buy the t-shirts and hats. Thats who Vince is catoring to because thats where the $ is coming from and Cena is just a product for the kids to get behind. Cena has grown incredibly stale on wrestling fans but until he grows stale with the kids you can expect more of the same.
@Alexv79 Cena sells the most merchandise. Though you may not like him, kids love him and buy his t-shirts and arm bands. That's why he's their top star and why he's nearly unbeatable.
@Alexv79 I'm not really a fan of Cena's, but anybody with a brain can tell that he has more charisma on the mic than any other wrestler in the business today... but why do you think he gets such a big pop when his music hits? Because he's the most popular wrestler around today, & the fans did decide that. Don't get mad at the kids, because most people become fans when they are children. So your argument has no substance, & only validates the fact that you're a Cena hater. You're a jackass...
@Alexv79 A "push" means a wrestler is put out there to generate heat. Either people love him or they hate him. And that's the case with Cena. In some places, they ADORE Cena. In others, they LOATHE him. And, in yet others, it's a split.
That's why he's had such staying power. You love him or love to hate him. It was the same way with the Rock, when he first turned heel.
@Alexv79 The thing about Cena is that he sells merchandise, which as a business, that's a big plus to keep someone around. If, say, Danielson sold as much then he would be in Cena's place right now. More skill (in Danielson's case) doesn't mean more sales (in Cena's case) unfortunately. Do I like Cena? Somewhat. He has his moments and he's great as an underdog role, but he's not the one I'd like to watch. However, I still recognize his importance with the company itself.
A brain scan, journals written by Benoit are consistent with people with depression, the drugs in his system were therapeutic level and not at toxic levels. There is mountains of evidence that mental illness and untreated concussions lead to his downfall more than anything.
I take it you never saw the image of the CT Scan. Benoit's brain looked like Swiss cheese and it was pictured next to that of a 70 year old Alzheimer's patient's brain. The latter was in far, far better condition. There's no way he was in control of all of his mental faculties.
@BlueSkyeReynolds THANK YOU. Finally, someone looks deeper than the surface of the Benoit story. However, his brain was actually that of an 85 year old Alzheimer's patient.
@undertakerfreak1127 85 year old Alzheimer's patient? That's another fifteen years worth of deterioration. Yikes.
In any event, it's not surprising that they beat the "Benoit's a monster" drum rather loudly. Nobody wants to admit that brain damage could come about as a result of impact these competitors endure over the years. It's something which could hurt the business and those who make their livelihood off of it.
Vince McMahon killed WWE, and for that matter Pro Wrestling in general...
His father and him created it, Him and Bishoff took it to another level during the monday night wars, but the end, Vince was resposible for the death of wrestling.
If you ask me he's resposible for a lot more....
Chris Benoit was mistreated and angry about the way WCW treated him..
BUT he didnt have a hateful bone in his body till he reached the WWE with the crazy, easy access for steriods & pain killlers.
You see you are a prime example of how people never learn, You cannot say UFC will Kill WWE when they are two totally different things, If people want to watch Real Fights they will go watch UFC or any MMA for that matter and If People want to watch Sports Entertainment/Professional Wrestling they will watch WWE or any Pro-Wrestling company they choose and that is why WWE does not consider UFC competion.
lol thats like saying UFC will kill show buisness...not gonna happen wwe is entertainment...UFC is fighting...just like boxing...so you can jsut go to one of them boxing videos and say how UFC is gonna kil boxing.
exactly - I'm a big mma fan and I don't watch pro wrestling...but like it or not MMA is fucking boring a lot of the time, pro wrestling is never going to have long drawn out humping against the side of the cage or one guy laying on top of the other guy for 5 minutes straight.
MMA can be hella boring if a guy just has a headlock on for 5-10 minutes at a time. With wrestling the audience expects a certain level of performance. With MMA, yea they hit each other for real, but like boxing, chances are you're paying for something that easily end in 12 seconds or drag on for hours...
i was not even talking about the performence level that you will see in a MMA match and a wrestling match, and yes it's true wrestling can be more fun to watch sometimes...
and so can MMA, i guess you have to be a hardcore fan to know what i mean...and no a MMA match can not go on for hours...only 15 or 25 min
I've been watching UFC on and off since Royce Gracie v Ken Shamrock. I recall a match where I believe Gracie had Shamrock in a hold for what seemed like an eternity. And then at some point he put him in a submission hold and Shamrock tapped out in 2 seconds or less. Now don't get me wrong some of the best action is in MMA, however, with WWE/pro wrestling, you're almost always guaranteed great action, and doesn't it say a lot that wrestlers can put on up tempo matches for that long?
I like them both too. But you're the one who brought up MMA to begin with. Wrestling is fake to the point the winner is predetermined, so might argue that the way UFC and some other promotions have been going, that MMA is on that same line... Wrestlers get injured, often worse than MMA guys. An average wrestler goes out on the road and does his thing 3-4 times a week and puts up the same level of performance almost every time out there. An MMA guy, maybe once every couple months.
I was never talking about the performence level in to the two Sports, but u said that MMA was boring thats why i brought up the fact that Wrestling is fake.
and im not talking about how much they get hurt in wrestling or how much the sacrafice to do what they do and the fact that they go out there every night and puts on a great show, im just explaining why MMA is a little more slow then Wrestling
Yes. I know. But when you say something about why wrestling can put on up tempo matches, that's talking about the performance level. And when you say wrestling is fake you make it sound like they don't get hurt when in fact they get hurt far more serious than MMA guys because of what they do. So that's why I responded. You can use the word scripted and it a different story. The only point I was making is that MMA is hit or miss, which I know because I watch both as well. I know why without help
Wrestling is fake to a point (as to be saying it's scripted) when i first wrote the comment i was not talking in the performance level, im not even sure what i wrote , but it had something to do with WHY wrestling is fast and fun and why MMA is kind slow and boring sometimes.
yeah vince does know does guys were using the juice his big time money makers are well protected the cena's triple h's and the orton's but not someone like the masterpiece
Vince knew they were on roids. Vince himself has taken roids. Just like Selig knew baseball players were shooting up. It is all in the name of drawing in fans and making money. If you don't like these guys using roids then don't watch the programs or buy the merchandise.
vince is the worst owner of any sports entertainment company out there. guy is corrupt, a cokehead, and a huge steroid user. look at him come in with his match against hogan. the guy is a douche (vince mcmahon).
Edge is quite big he is tall but not very muscular. Orton is quite big. but lets say max 6,2 and 235 pounds they got HBK and Christian and to some exstent mysterio
i never said that Austin or HBK where big....but still Benoit and Eddie took Roids and if you remember Benoit and Eddie never got they'er shots at the title until they where bigger then they ever where in there past carrers.
"steroidsR4losers" You "R" the only loser here going around in wrestling related video comments with only "..." so lame. Time to get a life. Do you know what the sun is?
Anybody notice how small Vince McMahon was in the early days and how huge he is now? Looks like he's been spending a whole lot of time in the gym if you ask me. I wonder what he was taking.
No he never told them to take Steroids but wrestler Kevin Wacholz testified in court that Vince said to him "I suggest you go on the gas" and then said "Life's not fair, the ball's in your court"
And Hogan testified w/ immunity that he had recieved steroids by mail 10 times from Titan Tower and used McMahons personal secratary to place steroid orders to Dr. Zahorian from the road.
Steroids were all through the WWF in the 80's and if Vince didn't want them there, then they wouldn't have been.
meh, Kevin Wacholz is the same idiot who attacked vince mcmahon, what does that tell you? hogan received steroids BECAUSE he wanted them.. Fact is, vince NEVER told them to take steroids. thats all on them.
vince never told anyone to take STEROIDS. vinces number 1 wrestler has to be a pumped up meathead. that doesn't means hes telling you to take steroids.
Hulk Hogan = one of the greatest role models for kids in Vinces eyes? Wow, you mean the guy who LITERALLY said eat your vitamins, say your prayers, dont take the easy and short path to success and then we all found out the truth? Damn Vince.
He's the greatest promoter in the history of the sport! You wouldn't even be watch wrestling without him! And nobody would be watching your "clever" little video if it were not for the man!
Vince is a tyrant and he totally perverted pro wrestling. That's why his product sucks now. You need competition to be a thriving business...and he's eliminated that now...
I completely agree with that, pro wrestling is only better with competition. When wwe is the only show in town we seem to get only more hbk and john cena. What happened to exciting pro wrestling and great storylines.
Vince is a no good asswhole! He was a crook and a drug pusher. The man deserves to be in prison and he destroyed wrestling. He turned it into a three ring circus for idiots.
Vince forces the wrestlers to be on steroids. He treats them like crap. he burns them out and could care less about them. He only cares about filling his pockets. I know several wrestlers and none of them like Vinny. Wrestling once had a little class. Vinny tour all that down.
I agree that wrestlers want to make vince happy and they go to almost any lengths to accomplish that. You see guys like kurt angle, edge, the hardys, mick foley and others that sacrifice their bodies for wwe. Then they are released and they are expected to just go away with their hip replacements and surgically repaired neck.
no, not a fan to any one particular wrestler. I like the old days of wrestling when you had Bruno Sammartino, Toru Tanaka, Waldo Von Erich, Bulldog Brower and those guys.
This is one "bright" video. =p
indseytate718l 1 month ago
This video is a favorite on Bulgaria
robbiepeters512 2 months ago
This whole steroid debate is absolutely stupid in my opinion. Yeah, if you want it banned from competitive sports, so be it. I'm fine with it, as an organization has the right to decide not to force people to risk their lives to make the cut.
But, this whole "steriods are wrong/bad" thing needs to stop. People put what they want into their own bodies. Bottom line.
It especially makes me laugh when people are anti-steroids and pro choice. Double standard.
cbrhawk1 2 months ago
funniest thing is that vince is a juicer as well
hash1212121212 3 months ago
Lol taking steroids when you're young might help your career but what about when you turn 50? All that artificial muscle is going to turn on you and ruin your body! Liver and kidney problems high blood pressure, just to name a few....
MBGamingLegends 8 months ago
Bullshit...Vince covers up alot of shit to avoid getting into big trouble...These big ass wrestlers then and now dont get big on their own...Come on man Cena is huge Mason Ryan is huge...Steroids are still helping them stay big but it will all back fire when they die from the use
babygfeva 10 months ago 2
Luger was a Steroid Freak, Damn.
JeffTheFutureJaros 1 year ago
@JeffTheFutureJaros And he's a paraplegic as a result, DAMN!
choice2099 1 year ago
@choice2099 Goes to show you being a Steroid Freak isn't cool at all.
JeffTheFutureJaros 1 year ago
most of it is locker room envy with getting bigger...you see a guy in the locker room bigger than you, your going to train to get bigger... if you ever played high school or college football you'd understand..
RickRomo 1 year ago
I don't give a shit if wrestlers take steriods, unless Vince is forcing them to take it like Billy Jack Haynes said. If they do it on their own, that's their desician and their life. They wanna fuck themselves up with roids, their choice.
THES3XYMAN101 1 year ago
I love people who talk about these guys taking steroids. If I fucking want to watch some average sized pussies with some definition, I'll watch fucking Jersey Shore, when I watch wrestling, I want the fucking adrenaline rush, and it's very easy to get it when you see a 303lb dude with 24inch arms, bodyslamming a 520lb monster, or a 7'0/317lb dude who's built like a "diesel truck", jackknife powerbomb someone....
In short, get CM Punk to bodyslam the Big Show, then we'll talk, if not, shut up
NWpowerhouse85 1 year ago
@NWpowerhouse85 punk did get viscera up for a little bit.
genosynca 1 year ago
Yeah Vince only gives a sh*t about steroids on wrestlers if they get caught. I dare say he will encourage use on the ones who want to be pushed to the top of WWE.
stufaman 1 year ago
@stufaman
Fact is Vince is not their father. These are grown ass men in tights who are acting and make dumb decisions that vince cannot make for them. It is like a movie star main protagonist wanting to look big so he takes steroids, Do we blame the director or whoever is in charge of the movie set no because like wwe they are not competing. Vince was proven innocent thanks to hogan that he does not supply nor push people to take them. how do you know these wrestlers aren't lying lol
SnakeCIA1 1 year ago
@SnakeCIA1 I grumble about Vince on so many levels. But I can never call him a dummy. He is no doubt wise to what the wrestlers go through to get to WWE and stay there.
stufaman 1 year ago
McMahon is a pimp. And pimps don't care about their whores. The WWF didn't force wrestlers to take steroids. They didn't have to. The guys they hired and pushed were on the juice.
Jefgg 1 year ago
They don't push wrestlers based on size, LMFAO!
markallenkellner 1 year ago
Vince, you're a liar, a bullshit artist & a half ass human being.
I hope you die a painful, slow death.
There's a place in hell for you Vince.
yimpka 1 year ago
@yimpka Are you kidding me? I don't even wanna argue you into any corners..They created magic in the 80's and 90's, made a lot of people rich. I'll just say at the end of the day he's a self made billionaire. Not get your smock on and head to Wal-Mart
paco0384 1 year ago
@paco0384 Hey beaner....do you know how many people died cause he wanted all his wrestlers looking like jacked up super heroes. 2 thinks Pedro....Money aint everything...and I wanna see your papers Jose!
yimpka 1 year ago
@yimpka: the heck is your problem??
ipodchik 1 year ago
its true and not so true at the same time becuz look at The Rock , Steve austin and mick foley HUGE stars in the best era of wrestling and nun were on steroid
BIGZphillybirdfan 1 year ago
All Wrestlers and bodybuilders have taken steroids at some time or the other in their lives. Today steroids are banned but that still dosent mean that Vince is responsible. The wrestlers are grown men and taking or not taking steroids is entirely their choice.
bonnyathome 1 year ago
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LockardKevin 1 year ago
Vince McMahon is known to lie through his teeth each and every time. Wrestlers have been taking steroids in the WWF/WWE for so long that it is ludicrous for Vince to come out and say that they don't use substance abuse. There are wrestlers who formerly wrestled for Vince who beg to differ with him. Billy Jack Haynes and Superstar Billy Graham are two of them.
Lurvy1963 1 year ago
This is total bullshit Cena has been champ 20 times got dammit if this was the case why can't somebody like Kofi Kingston Christian or Matt Hardy be a wwe or world champ
MrMakaveli97 1 year ago
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look how fucking big luger is!!!!!!!! damn he was on the roids big time
hbkthebest937 1 year ago
look how fucking big luger is!!!!!!!! damn he was on the roids big time
hbkthebest937 1 year ago
WHAT ARE THE TOP 10 MOVES?!
EldestSauce 1 year ago
"They're extremely charismatic" as a picture of Bob Backlund is splashed across the screen. . .Good work JNLister!
ChrisFrenchComedy 1 year ago 2
i think that hulk hogan is greatestt rolemodel in the history of steriods..hahaha
martinjanssen1 1 year ago
honestly looking at this tells u steroids made wwe alot better
JPK567 1 year ago
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09Dolphinlover 1 year ago
This video sucks. Sid had charisma. Charisman doesnt mean mic skills. wrestlers who had charisma was always over.
jb0609 1 year ago 3
Vince didn't make Hulk Hogan a millionaire. If WCW could have gotten a hold of that audio byte during the Monday Night Wars, they'd have really rubbed it in his face.
BlueSkyeReynolds 1 year ago 3
greatest role model?
a lier, a cheat? a complete fake and phony is my greatest role model hulk?
NO i dont think so, never.
WWE is dead to me
xxxxdarksidexxxx 1 year ago
well wwe isnt all about size nemore we can all see roids arent a issue nemore in wwe
bizzybez 1 year ago
@bizzybez But apparently bad spelling is.
Hypodermic1 1 year ago
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Hypodermic1 1 year ago
Despite all the hatemail I'm gonna get from this cena said in a interview that alot of wrestlers after their carres admit to using them like the rock but also if they are big stars they only get suspended for a week and cena think they should get arrested like everyone else
sav1996can 1 year ago
cena sucks
surfco 1 year ago
vince believes in NONE of what he says in the vid
DaniloCamargo 1 year ago 2
And to lennywwe: The Hulkster has admitted to using steroids throughout his whole career. Its public knowledge. There is also very limited evidence that steroids alone, even when used in high dosages, can actually kill you.
akasleeper777 1 year ago
My main point is that this is entertainment, and with predetermined outcomes what is a belt really worth in this "sport"?
akasleeper777 1 year ago
wo wo wo ... mcmhan .. is saying tht hulk hougan used steroieds lol comon ... maby 1 or 2 time but no more than that .. steroieds will kill you yea hulk was mucle but he wornt all steroid.. if you ask me .. i think khali is using steroids .. comon look at him he is taller than big show , khali is 7,3.. rightt and he is 420lb well look he is mucles and i hink hw takes sterids coz he is a monster and he is so srong 1 of the strongest or the strongest wwe sperstars in the wwe well thas my .view
lennywwe 2 years ago
@lennywwe wow u are truly an idiot. steroids dont make u taller it makes u bigger
kx10ng 2 years ago 2
@lennywwe At the time when Vince had to go on Trial, Hulk Hogan took the stand and said that he took Steroids. He said that Vince in no way made him take them or helped him get them. Hogan is the one that said it not Vince. Also around the time some wrestlers took then they were not against the law. This sound clip is from the 1980's.
Bstone18 2 years ago
Marty Jannetty sure does look like a steroid user (!!)
jeeez...
hcvang 2 years ago 3
I'm pretty sure they were using him for an example of someone who didn't get pushed.
drmgiver 2 years ago
He's right
slimsephy 2 years ago
Psycho SId 4 WWE Referee
saved83 2 years ago
American fighter pilots and classical musicians take steroids, the same kind that wrestlers take, in order to perform. Pro athletes shouldn't take them because everyone needs to be on par. Wrestling is entertainment, so no real competition, so they should be allowed to take steroids.
RubberWilbur 2 years ago
I like jericho, but I wouldn't say he's steroid free. Just because you don't have a six pack doesn't mean you don't use roids. He packed on alot of bulk after leaving wcw for wwf. I would almost be willing to bet he used steroids at some point. That excess bulk and the lifts in his boots ruined his wrestling. He's a shell of what he was 10 years ago.
Fektthis 2 years ago 2
chris jericho = steroid free + very successful
MyTenthAccount 2 years ago 7
@MyTenthAccount Jericho steroid free. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
SexualStrat 7 months ago
they arent even wrestlers just guys acting for money
SH3PH3RD999 2 years ago
Who gives a fuck if they're taking steroids? Let them do it. You all aint their Mommys and Daddys. Grown men can make their own decisions.
FunkyMonk6969 2 years ago 50
@FunkyMonk6969 If they want to take things that will set a chain reaction inside with their organs, etc. I couldn't care less. Just don't ask me to help dig their graves or shed a tear when their heart locks up.
dpman72 1 year ago
@FunkyMonk6969 the point is not if they should or shouldn't. it is that in the audio he is saying that the wrestlers are tested. From the footage presented you can decide for yourself whether you think they are indeed tested or not.
Django2000 1 year ago
@FunkyMonk6969 The problem with that thought is, no, but he's their boss. And just like any field of employment, they'll step in when someone is using an illegal drug. Aside from that, there's a business aspect. as a business man, you want to keep your product around to make money. When steroids (or any harmful substance) becomes too much of an issue, the business man either tries to find a way to solve the problem or cut the link altogether.
CasualVideoGamer 10 months ago
@FunkyMonk6969 Your comment is from two years ago but you still need to get your head out of your ass.
EldestSauce 4 months ago
You guys say "Champion" like this is a legitmate sport, its nothing more than poor gymnastics on steroids.
akasleeper777 2 years ago
Try it once.
drmgiver 2 years ago
I love how he says "they" don't push the wrestlers, the public decides. If that were true we wouldn't be having Super Cena shoved down our throats for the past 3 years.
Alexv79 2 years ago 72
well the public buys more merchandise of cena than any other superstar. so that why we have super cena but cena hasn't been champion in a while so...
Allistar123 2 years ago
They buy the merchandise because he has so much of it! WWE decided to cover Cena with T Shirts, caps, stupid belts, ect. Same with the new DX. If they turned heel and started wearing just one plain t shirt, nobody would buy it.
KingKungFuCantona 2 years ago
DUDE i totally agre alex hahahahaha
coollilmofo 2 years ago
Thank you
thrashmetalmike 2 years ago
i agree cena is a terrible wrestler, but watch the crowd go apeshit when he comes out
personally im over wrestling catering to little kids
lukebaker18 2 years ago 4
@Alexv79 because its PG and u see the kids in his merchendise and so.... you know what
RamboAAK 1 year ago
@Alexv79 is it only 3 years? it feels more like double that
crazysteve1986 1 year ago
@Alexv79
Kids is also a part of the public
jb0609 1 year ago
@Alexv79 they don't pay attention 2 us anymore they only listen 2 the money sources known as kids
77hiphopaintdead77 1 year ago
@Alexv79 Sadly the public is deciding on Cena. Just not the right public. Not the true wrestling fans who want to see good wrestlers get a push but the little kiddies who buy the t-shirts and hats. Thats who Vince is catoring to because thats where the $ is coming from and Cena is just a product for the kids to get behind. Cena has grown incredibly stale on wrestling fans but until he grows stale with the kids you can expect more of the same.
KingBurkey 1 year ago
@Alexv79
There's a large part of the market that LOVES John Cena. Don't view your bias as the general consensus.
vincentrich 1 year ago
@Alexv79 Cena sells the most merchandise. Though you may not like him, kids love him and buy his t-shirts and arm bands. That's why he's their top star and why he's nearly unbeatable.
samus33529 1 year ago
@Alexv79 I'm not really a fan of Cena's, but anybody with a brain can tell that he has more charisma on the mic than any other wrestler in the business today... but why do you think he gets such a big pop when his music hits? Because he's the most popular wrestler around today, & the fans did decide that. Don't get mad at the kids, because most people become fans when they are children. So your argument has no substance, & only validates the fact that you're a Cena hater. You're a jackass...
PhukAdvertisements 1 year ago
@Alexv79 A "push" means a wrestler is put out there to generate heat. Either people love him or they hate him. And that's the case with Cena. In some places, they ADORE Cena. In others, they LOATHE him. And, in yet others, it's a split.
That's why he's had such staying power. You love him or love to hate him. It was the same way with the Rock, when he first turned heel.
MCWAY1 1 year ago
@Alexv79 The thing about Cena is that he sells merchandise, which as a business, that's a big plus to keep someone around. If, say, Danielson sold as much then he would be in Cena's place right now. More skill (in Danielson's case) doesn't mean more sales (in Cena's case) unfortunately. Do I like Cena? Somewhat. He has his moments and he's great as an underdog role, but he's not the one I'd like to watch. However, I still recognize his importance with the company itself.
CasualVideoGamer 10 months ago
Yeah, Hulk Hogan is a role model
Between the 'Roids, the bad movies, his rep backstage, and his treatment of John Graziano, Chris Benoit deserves more respect
toyotas2006 2 years ago 4
LOL I rememeber Bob Backlund. "Cross face Chicken Wing, Cross face Chicken Wind."
taoistwarrior 2 years ago
Yes, it is Vince. Its a combination of size, charisma, showmanship, muscularity and overall agility.
nenzi671 2 years ago
chris benoit's shit happened because his best friend died and he had chronic depression, all of that came crashing down on him, not roid rage
Pygmonicus 2 years ago
I don't buy that crap, how would you know anyway, some people are just evil inside.
Appellusiomocracy89 2 years ago
A brain scan, journals written by Benoit are consistent with people with depression, the drugs in his system were therapeutic level and not at toxic levels. There is mountains of evidence that mental illness and untreated concussions lead to his downfall more than anything.
liknital07 2 years ago
If untreated concussions were the only factor in that tragedy, Misawa, Kobashi, and Kawada all would have went on murderous rampages.
Face it, your hero is a murderer.
dele3344 2 years ago
Face it, he still thinks him a hero, what are you going to do about it keyboard warrior?
heyarnoldsknee 2 years ago
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topdinero 2 years ago 2
@dele3344
I take it you never saw the image of the CT Scan. Benoit's brain looked like Swiss cheese and it was pictured next to that of a 70 year old Alzheimer's patient's brain. The latter was in far, far better condition. There's no way he was in control of all of his mental faculties.
BlueSkyeReynolds 1 year ago
@BlueSkyeReynolds THANK YOU. Finally, someone looks deeper than the surface of the Benoit story. However, his brain was actually that of an 85 year old Alzheimer's patient.
undertakerfreak1127 1 year ago
@undertakerfreak1127 85 year old Alzheimer's patient? That's another fifteen years worth of deterioration. Yikes.
In any event, it's not surprising that they beat the "Benoit's a monster" drum rather loudly. Nobody wants to admit that brain damage could come about as a result of impact these competitors endure over the years. It's something which could hurt the business and those who make their livelihood off of it.
BlueSkyeReynolds 1 year ago
Vince McMahon killed WWE, and for that matter Pro Wrestling in general...
His father and him created it, Him and Bishoff took it to another level during the monday night wars, but the end, Vince was resposible for the death of wrestling.
If you ask me he's resposible for a lot more....
Chris Benoit was mistreated and angry about the way WCW treated him..
BUT he didnt have a hateful bone in his body till he reached the WWE with the crazy, easy access for steriods & pain killlers.
S0Throwed 2 years ago
Wow. If that wasn't a big FU to Vince, nothing is. haha
tabooman 2 years ago
UFC will kill WWE!
jasondh22 2 years ago
You see you are a prime example of how people never learn, You cannot say UFC will Kill WWE when they are two totally different things, If people want to watch Real Fights they will go watch UFC or any MMA for that matter and If People want to watch Sports Entertainment/Professional Wrestling they will watch WWE or any Pro-Wrestling company they choose and that is why WWE does not consider UFC competion.
DnDJesse 2 years ago 3
lol thats like saying UFC will kill show buisness...not gonna happen wwe is entertainment...UFC is fighting...just like boxing...so you can jsut go to one of them boxing videos and say how UFC is gonna kil boxing.
cmd1995 2 years ago
exactly - I'm a big mma fan and I don't watch pro wrestling...but like it or not MMA is fucking boring a lot of the time, pro wrestling is never going to have long drawn out humping against the side of the cage or one guy laying on top of the other guy for 5 minutes straight.
That's why it will never die.
JonathanBloggs 2 years ago 4
yes! thats what im saying Wrestling aint fighting at all..wrestling is simply a soap oprah but more dangerous.
while MMA is a fight between two guys that are trying to get the best out off each other.
cmd1995 2 years ago 2
MMA can be hella boring if a guy just has a headlock on for 5-10 minutes at a time. With wrestling the audience expects a certain level of performance. With MMA, yea they hit each other for real, but like boxing, chances are you're paying for something that easily end in 12 seconds or drag on for hours...
bobolob 2 years ago
i was not even talking about the performence level that you will see in a MMA match and a wrestling match, and yes it's true wrestling can be more fun to watch sometimes...
and so can MMA, i guess you have to be a hardcore fan to know what i mean...and no a MMA match can not go on for hours...only 15 or 25 min
cmd1995 2 years ago
I've been watching UFC on and off since Royce Gracie v Ken Shamrock. I recall a match where I believe Gracie had Shamrock in a hold for what seemed like an eternity. And then at some point he put him in a submission hold and Shamrock tapped out in 2 seconds or less. Now don't get me wrong some of the best action is in MMA, however, with WWE/pro wrestling, you're almost always guaranteed great action, and doesn't it say a lot that wrestlers can put on up tempo matches for that long?
bobolob 2 years ago
in the time when royce gracie was in the UFC they did not have a time limit...now the do.
you know why Pro Wrestlers can put up tempo matches? becuse it's fake, while in MMA it's not fake wich makes it a little more boring.
and don't get me wrong i love both MMA and pro wrestling.
but you can't compare them to each other becuse wrestling is fake and MMA is real fighting.
cmd1995 2 years ago
I like them both too. But you're the one who brought up MMA to begin with. Wrestling is fake to the point the winner is predetermined, so might argue that the way UFC and some other promotions have been going, that MMA is on that same line... Wrestlers get injured, often worse than MMA guys. An average wrestler goes out on the road and does his thing 3-4 times a week and puts up the same level of performance almost every time out there. An MMA guy, maybe once every couple months.
bobolob 2 years ago
I was never talking about the performence level in to the two Sports, but u said that MMA was boring thats why i brought up the fact that Wrestling is fake.
and im not talking about how much they get hurt in wrestling or how much the sacrafice to do what they do and the fact that they go out there every night and puts on a great show, im just explaining why MMA is a little more slow then Wrestling
cmd1995 2 years ago
Yes. I know. But when you say something about why wrestling can put on up tempo matches, that's talking about the performance level. And when you say wrestling is fake you make it sound like they don't get hurt when in fact they get hurt far more serious than MMA guys because of what they do. So that's why I responded. You can use the word scripted and it a different story. The only point I was making is that MMA is hit or miss, which I know because I watch both as well. I know why without help
bobolob 2 years ago
Wrestling is fake to a point (as to be saying it's scripted) when i first wrote the comment i was not talking in the performance level, im not even sure what i wrote , but it had something to do with WHY wrestling is fast and fun and why MMA is kind slow and boring sometimes.
cmd1995 2 years ago
Though, I would really like to see some sort of "special" MMA match. A big MMA brawl with like 10 or so guys in it, the guy who doesn't submit wins.
drmgiver 2 years ago
naa to many guys, maby 4...or like 2 on 2
if there where to be 10 fighter in one ring
it would be total bedlam
cmd1995 1 year ago
the man that rules the world sid justice
xxliljpxx 2 years ago
yeah vince does know does guys were using the juice his big time money makers are well protected the cena's triple h's and the orton's but not someone like the masterpiece
videowatcher4sho 2 years ago
Vince knew they were on roids. Vince himself has taken roids. Just like Selig knew baseball players were shooting up. It is all in the name of drawing in fans and making money. If you don't like these guys using roids then don't watch the programs or buy the merchandise.
fvQB12 2 years ago 2
exactly.
vince is the worst owner of any sports entertainment company out there. guy is corrupt, a cokehead, and a huge steroid user. look at him come in with his match against hogan. the guy is a douche (vince mcmahon).
DustinDiamondz 2 years ago
Vince talk so much bullshit...how many small wrestlers got to the top?
HBK, Hitman, Edge..thats it..
big guys:
Cena,Show,HHH,Batista,Hulk Hogan,Youkozona, lex lugher and so on...
cmd1995 2 years ago
Edge is quite big he is tall but not very muscular. Orton is quite big. but lets say max 6,2 and 235 pounds they got HBK and Christian and to some exstent mysterio
mathias1211 2 years ago
im talking about the body.
cmd1995 2 years ago
Mysterio is a steroid user as well.
drmgiver 2 years ago
edge admited to steroid use too...so he had a lilttle help...look it up
dominicanfigure169 2 years ago
yes he used it when he first got in to the wwe.
but he got big in 07. without steroid use.
cmd1995 2 years ago
Rey jericho, eddie, benoit, and so on
MVPStatus18 2 years ago
Yes Rey got to the top once. you are right about Y2j
but Eddie and Benoit where big.
cmd1995 2 years ago
benoit and eddie werent big compared to other wrestlers hbk isnt big either austin isnt really big
playboi182 2 years ago
i never said that Austin or HBK where big....but still Benoit and Eddie took Roids and if you remember Benoit and Eddie never got they'er shots at the title until they where bigger then they ever where in there past carrers.
cmd1995 2 years ago 3
Benoit has been the same size since the old ECW day, but eddie was little bigger,
kanoknox 2 years ago
go check your eyes my friend..there is a big diffrens between the Benoit in ECW and the Benoit in WWE
cmd1995 2 years ago 2
"steroidsR4losers" You "R" the only loser here going around in wrestling related video comments with only "..." so lame. Time to get a life. Do you know what the sun is?
MyOnslaught 2 years ago 2
no, Vince is a Genious
Bangoustine 2 years ago 3
Vince McMahon is a lying sack of crap.
spinemelter2000 2 years ago
Anybody notice how small Vince McMahon was in the early days and how huge he is now? Looks like he's been spending a whole lot of time in the gym if you ask me. I wonder what he was taking.
screamingdean5 2 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
yea, but still. vince NEVER told them to take steroids. NEVER.
FoCuS138 2 years ago
He probably never told them to NOT take steroids either.
steroidsR4losers 2 years ago 2
No he never told them to take Steroids but wrestler Kevin Wacholz testified in court that Vince said to him "I suggest you go on the gas" and then said "Life's not fair, the ball's in your court"
And Hogan testified w/ immunity that he had recieved steroids by mail 10 times from Titan Tower and used McMahons personal secratary to place steroid orders to Dr. Zahorian from the road.
Steroids were all through the WWF in the 80's and if Vince didn't want them there, then they wouldn't have been.
mastervoz 2 years ago 4
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FoCuS138 2 years ago
meh, Kevin Wacholz is the same idiot who attacked vince mcmahon, what does that tell you? hogan received steroids BECAUSE he wanted them.. Fact is, vince NEVER told them to take steroids. thats all on them.
FoCuS138 2 years ago
is wrestling like pro wrestlng
bobyard123 2 years ago
man vince pushes guys on size he keeps trying to push MIKE KNOX who cares about him!
KobiljakWwe14 2 years ago
lol! I totally agree. Knox is so dull. I'd add Snitsky, Lashley and Batista to the Big & Boring List
Spidrax 2 years ago 3
vince never told anyone to take STEROIDS. vinces number 1 wrestler has to be a pumped up meathead. that doesn't means hes telling you to take steroids.
FoCuS138 2 years ago 2
Lies Lies Lies
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TheCharizmaticEnigma 2 years ago
cock head
jasongreenwooduk1 2 years ago
Please do not breed. Thank you.
drmgiver 2 years ago
10 BEST MOVES
robbiethecowboy 2 years ago
Hulk Hogan = one of the greatest role models for kids in Vinces eyes? Wow, you mean the guy who LITERALLY said eat your vitamins, say your prayers, dont take the easy and short path to success and then we all found out the truth? Damn Vince.
Kasigi03 2 years ago
Remember, Little Hulkamaniacs! The Three Demandments: Pump your steroids, snort your coke, and deny all charges!
evilwillhunting 2 years ago 10
LMAO! Absolutley awesome job of putting Vince's foot in his mouth!!
crackfuct2001 2 years ago
Where is big poppa pump in all of this? His arm muscles had muscles of their own.
DH2020 3 years ago 4
LMAOOOOOOOOO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO REALIZED THAT!!!
Vince too!!!
6XsTaCy9 3 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 3 years ago
Vince is 100% right!
He's the greatest promoter in the history of the sport! You wouldn't even be watch wrestling without him! And nobody would be watching your "clever" little video if it were not for the man!
BrickhouseB2 3 years ago
lollll
You probably Buy gi joe's and love it
vince is there for money
not for a sport
not for wrestling
vince wanted a way to make money , and he found the way to do it
on the CHEAP
JAPAN ALL THE WAY
at least there is still tradition there
hayabusafmw 3 years ago
Nope. No toy soldiers for me.
Weirdo.
Japanese wrestling was great until the turn of the century.
American wrestling has sucked since 2005.
But Vince is 100% right. And the greatest promoter in the history of wrestling.
Inoki & Baba would be tied for 2nd in my opinion.
BrickhouseB2 3 years ago 3
Vince is a tyrant and he totally perverted pro wrestling. That's why his product sucks now. You need competition to be a thriving business...and he's eliminated that now...
SidJustice1 3 years ago
I'm sure Bill Gates agrees with that notion....
ph1484 3 years ago
I completely agree with that, pro wrestling is only better with competition. When wwe is the only show in town we seem to get only more hbk and john cena. What happened to exciting pro wrestling and great storylines.
jerichofanforlife 2 years ago
Vince is a no good asswhole! He was a crook and a drug pusher. The man deserves to be in prison and he destroyed wrestling. He turned it into a three ring circus for idiots.
TonySpargo 3 years ago
crook and drug pusher?
explain please cos im generally interested.
Achilles741 3 years ago
Vince forces the wrestlers to be on steroids. He treats them like crap. he burns them out and could care less about them. He only cares about filling his pockets. I know several wrestlers and none of them like Vinny. Wrestling once had a little class. Vinny tour all that down.
TonySpargo 3 years ago
forces them onto steroids? i would have though after benoit etc that it wouldnt be the case.
Achilles741 3 years ago
I agree that wrestlers want to make vince happy and they go to almost any lengths to accomplish that. You see guys like kurt angle, edge, the hardys, mick foley and others that sacrifice their bodies for wwe. Then they are released and they are expected to just go away with their hip replacements and surgically repaired neck.
jerichofanforlife 2 years ago
im with you what evidence do u provide for a claim like that
Trav4Prez 3 years ago
yeah. i agree your other replyers.
and, so im assuming you're a DIE HARD bret hart fan?
darkphoenix9090 2 years ago
no, not a fan to any one particular wrestler. I like the old days of wrestling when you had Bruno Sammartino, Toru Tanaka, Waldo Von Erich, Bulldog Brower and those guys.
TonySpargo 2 years ago
i had sex with my girlfriend last night and we DID use a condom!
jtjrmoney8 3 years ago 3
I think the Backlund insertion right as Vince was mentioning "charisma" was more sarcastic than anything.
gsx80 3 years ago
Yeah, not to mention, he would have kicked all of the guy's asses in the vid including McMahon! *lol*
SidJustice1 3 years ago
Why was Marty Jennety in this video?
sqeak5 3 years ago
I was wondering the same thing. Bob Backlund too.
Lfdjake91 3 years ago