Soldiers invaded their lands, killed civilians in the Middle East (there are videos) because the USA gov brainwashed them into thinking that Arabs were responsible for the 9/11, engineers say that it' s an inside job. They want the oil, anyone who rebels is called a terrorist, Yeah there are religious fanatics but most of the terrorists are just rebels. RATE THIS UP SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUTH WE CAN SAVE LIVES, WE ARE CHANGING THIS WORLD, EVERYONE IS REBELLING. You guys are naive & brainwashed.
See the thing is about most regular people, they are under the impression that the government does nothing wrong..they never do anything bad, they are 100 percent completely okay and would never harm a soul. People that live in the real fucking world know that CIA agents been bringing Cocaine and Guns into this country to make personal money for agents. Iran Contra was about gov offiicals selling guns to both sides so we can make money. We started a 3 wars over oil. So ill stay a informed wacko.
@DJRAKKK come on pal. give it a break. you're the comedian here, everyone is laughing at you. you're clinging to those crappy paper straws you never see anymore because they're illegal. How about a new take on life where you stop taking pleasure from other peoples anguish. all governments are naughty, some are naughtier than others; some go out of their way to be naughty however trust me in every possible way: you're abiding by those who attack us by posting such comments.
I can understand why "truthers" believe what they do, think about it. It's really quite an attractive notion to think you know something most others don't, to think this knowledge makes you "enlightened" and therefore more important than those who are "ignorant". To think you've uncovered a mass conspiracy where important world figures control people's minds and follow some satanic agenda; little do these "truthers" know, it's them being brainwashed by people like Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura.
people in this world are SO fucked up. whoever believes in 911 conspiracies are the biggest nutcases! listen to that freak! is that the type of guy u want to listen to?
@larrybird1011 doesnt mean u arnt a nut case! lol u have to admit people who believe in that shit are fucked in the head. that guy in the crowd must have had some mental issues
@InfectedInHD maybe he is i don't know the guy. what i'm saying is that if you really look into 9/11 even if you don't believe in the conspiracies behind it the way the event was handled is extremely strange, unprofessional and secretive. watch that fucking documentary otherwise STFU don't talk shit about things you don't understand
@larrybird1011 i understand it, im just saying the people that agree with you are the most unsucessful people ever. im saying you should bring it up on a date with a girl (or guy) or to anyone. nobody likes someone that thinks that
@howardandbrownfamily "you want an audience full of quack nut job leftists " - I do believe you'll find that quite a lot of the conspiracy theorists are the same people who think that Obama wasn't born in the US, think the government is full of socialists and want to "end the fed."
The fireproofing on the WTC was found to be insufficient in the early 90's, and had only been replaced on the bottom floors. It was tested for a fire the size of "...3 closely spaced passenger cars". It was also tested for plane crashes...with the Boeing 707, a plane that's been out of production since 1979, and has nowhere near the threat capacity of a Boeing 767, either in speed or fuel capacity. In short, the testing was woefully out of date. Also, there were apparently inadequate sprinklers.
All this info is right there in front of you. 9/11 aside isn't tyranny starting to take over. you guys are blind as fuck this shit is all over the place. i cant help you idiots. if all this shit is right there in front of you, lies by our government and your TV have clouded your minds. The U.S is turning into a fascist nation and this is just the tip of the iceberg. And im not a drug addict drugs are synthetically manufactured products like crack. i use things that are found in nature
@ChiTownSaint420 I have no agenda to spread hate or ignorance, but there is NO evidence to support your claims. Al-Qaeda didn't exist in the Gulf War, there were several Muhajideen groups which amalgamated after the Soviet retreat and BECAME Al-Qaeda. AFTERWARDS. Without US support in response to anarchy. I'm not ignorant, I'm rational. The burden of proof isn't on me, it's on YOU.
Also, you said I was "talking with a serious drug addict kid".I made the logical leap, which you seem incapable of.
Did you realized that they support muslim terrorists, muslim dictatorships. After all, CIA did all their terrorist attacks and created Arabian Spring. So they say... :/
Strange coincidence that nazis, Stalin and goons use to love such theories. Which also blame same targets, like jews/zionists...
@SonofSethoitae I would like to know if Icke is just mocking conspiracy nuts.
Considering most of them are obsessed at finding "paid agents of CIA/Mossad" in any rational bloke who doesn't believe them, believing in Icke would be funny and revealing. :D
@hatebigots1 hahahaha, true, very true. Apparently he does actually believe it though, a friend of mine met him once. Which actually just makes it funnier :P
@SonofSethoitae Let me say 1 of the best examples how they, the conspiracionist pobsessed ones, are smarter than "sheep".
Alex Jones & an anonymous portuguese guy said: "you may not believe me, but people i didn't believed in Galileo Galilei when he said EARTH WAS NOT ROUND!" Galilei, they said! Guess they didn't went to elementary school!!
@hatebigots1 The guy believes in Reptilians. What to expect? And people still believe Aaron Russo was killed by a CIA hit. Didn't know cancer was a CIA agent.
@H1TMANactual Really..I'm the retarded one...ok...just show me a video of a plane crashing into the pentagon...oh wait you can't, they're hiding all the footage...and why is that...?
@dwgangsat There are hundreds of pictures of plane debris all over pentagon and a video, not to mention over 150 witnesses that saw a plane. Like I said, fucking retard.
@H1TMANactual all i want is video proof...why can't we see it? That engine that they found as debri was to small to be an engine of a Boeing 757. I want them to just show me a video....what's there to hide...
@H1TMANactual as for the debris again, they were little crappy scraps...where were the wings, or the tail....hmmm....all we saw was little pieces of crap....I might be retarded, but you're brain dead...
@dwgangsat LMAO no one care what YOU want. The videos are private. FBI doesn't have the legal authority to release it. And the video does show a plane. There are plenty of pieces enough to identify it as Boeing. /watch?v=GodGViR7T4I
And which part of over 150 witnesses saw a plane is too hard for you to understand nutjob?
@H1TMANactual The link didn't work...well who ever has the legal authority to release it, why don't they??? The government has lied before with similar attacks(ship attacks) to get the U.S. in war. Like for an example, the Spanish-American war and the Vietnam war are classic examples. For the 150 witnesses, that means nothing, the gov is known for disinformation agents and convincing/threatening witnesses to admit to things that didn't really happen...just look at the evidence...
@H1TMANactual i must be blind or you have eye problems, cause i saw no plane in that crap footage...i found this video, not too sure if it's real or not but...just look...watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls
with all the proof out there now, if you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, than your an idiot. Seriously, that's the most obvious thing they have done. If you still don't believe than you are a lost cause. enjoy your tyranny, we tried to help...
@ChiTownSaint420 Twoofer who can't even spell is calling others idiots. How ironic! Watched too many conspiracy videos have we? Stay on your meds nut!
@H1TMANactual is that the only argument you have? what a tool. you think that all of my knowledge of this comes from one source? you would have to be a simpleton to believe the official 9/11 story. why don't you do some actual research instead of taking what ever the news says as fact. btw there are no spelling errors, (grammatical perhaps), i use spell-check :)
@H1TMANactual is that it? still no argument or facts, just ripping on my spelling? Yeah you're (better?) just the brightest crayon in the box aren't ya? if your just gonna argue about trivial shit then i won't respond. come on tell me why the 9/11 truth movement is false. go ahead ill wait for you to present some actual facts.
@ChiTownSaint420 yeah i expected as much from a sheep like you. go play some more call of duty you deplorable fucking troglididte. all your doing is running a psy- op. you think the NWO is going to benefit you? no they will cast you aside once they are done with you. so keep being a good sheep and regurgitate what you heard on fox news. WAKE THE FUCK UP
@ChiTownSaint420 Laughing at your retarded ass is plenty bringing to the table. Aren't you supposed to dazzle me with your WTC 7 demolition, NWO, fluoride, chemtrail theories? LOL. Fucking nutjob.
@H1TMANactual well if your not going to make an intelligent argument then this conversation is over,i just pray that you will quit being stupid and learn the truth soon, or you can be a puppet, you need to be led because you are weak spirited and weak minded. your supporting scum who would kill you just for a few dollars. you're not a patriot, your a pawn. If you want to explain why im wrong using facts then i implore you to. If it's going to be more high school trash talk then kindly fuck off
@H1TMANactual WTF dude you don't even know what i believe. i just research all aspects of what people believe. the fact that you have top comment just shows me that people are easily fooled and ridicule truthers, Did i say anything about lizard people? no. your a fucking idiot and can't defend your argument. None of you can. i run into you bastards daily, and it's all the same trash talk, no facts, no substance, no intelligence. i feel bad for you guys, i really do.
@ChiTownSaint420 Slave, you only insult and parrot that experts in physics and any other subject are all paid by government. Your ONLY answer to their logical debunking of your paranoia.
Its aaaall a big world domination conspiracy.
You are enslaved by paranoia & dogmas.
Islamic terrorists and dictators are happy with your mumbo jumbo theories.
@skepticaldemocrat Google the name Tim Osman you pretentious cunt. All these "terrorists" are a hoax. Al-Queda was founded and funded by the CIA. Top Al-Queda officials met and dined in the white house. Al-Queda was recently put in charge of Libya. You are the slave, you are the puppet. boy i miss being ignorant like you, life was so much easier, but i got smarter. I double-check all my info, i would be suprised if you HAD any info.
@skepticaldemocrat Yeah that's on record. Watching to much TV I suppose. Please just look it up. That's the thing about you sheeple, you watch CNN and think your so smart, but when your arguing with somebody who has done their homework you say " haha what a nutjob!","I love being smarter..", where is your argument? It just more shit-talking. I really hope you wake up soon
@skepticaldemocrat Pretentious is a word... sheeple is kind of like a slang term... you have seen CNN international don't bullshit me, Baseless? How so And why do you think i take meds? i wouldn't put that shit in my body. I'm more sane than you will ever be you pawn.
Al-Queda wasn't started by the CIA dipshit, that was the Taliban. And if you want to split hairs, technically it wasn't even the Taliban, it was the Muhajideen. There ARE terrorists, but the threat has been blown out of proportion. Al-Queda wasn't put in charge of Libya, nice try though.
@hatebigots1 You're a drug addict? That makes me take your points seriously...
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. There is no evidence scientifically of their claims. It's all bullshit. So he doesn't need to.
@SonofSethoitae Go watch the BBC say that Al-Queda was CIA created. the fucking BBC said this. look it up right here on youtube. It's called "The Power of Nightmares" they were set up when the soviets were invading Afghanistan. Come on dude it's so fucking obvious. I wish all of this wasn't true, I wish i could be in ignorant bliss and belive the 9/11 story, but it's not easy to know what I know and walk out the door, because people like you exist. people who buy into the bullshit.
@ChiTownSaint420 How about the plan would be totally non-sensical. "Let's plant bombs in the World Trade Centre, then crash planes into it and claim terrorists destroyed them that way, because just blowing them up and claiming terrorists did it would just be lunacy!" They'd have to involve THOUSANDS to make a subterfuge like that work, and it's simply not the case. Never mind the physics of a planeload of jet fuel exploding would in fact cause a building to collapse.
@SonofSethoitae Yeah a building that was made to withstand a plane crash falls down in free fall because of a fire in the upper levels, One of the hijackers passports is found on the street below, The attacks didn't kill anyone who was involved with illegal gov contracts, the footage of explosions in the lower levels were made by crazy conspirators trying to overturn our perfect government. you're right, they love us, they would never do this.. smh
@ChiTownSaint420 Yes, they built the World Trade Centre to withstand plane crashes and subsequent jet fuel explosions. How did a passport survive a crash which incinerated the black boxes, and more importantly what the hell does that have to do with making your point. There WERE NO LOWER LEVEL EXPLOSIONS. I don't know if you know this, but if you stress the foundation of a building like that, they burst. Just because they didn't kill anyone involved with government contracts means jack shit.
@ChiTownSaint420 And don't patronize me by saying I'm the government's biggest fanboy. I hate the government, I hate how they kick us while we're down and expect adoration. They're dishonest fuckers who are doing a piss-poor job. And it's for that reason that I don't buy your bullshit story. I've looked at the evidence and for your side there is none. A basic understanding of science disproves your theory. My love for humanity is infinite, and I will not have them deluded by bullshit.
@SonofSethoitae Bullshit? dude i don't even have to tell you, the evidence is in front of your face. Where is your evidence? What kind of research have you done? Please educate me all-knowing educator! Where did you get your info? Popular Mechanics? CNN? Fox? Go ahead, show ME some proof for your argument.
@ChiTownSaint420 The fireproofing on the WTC was found to be insufficient in the early 90's, and had only been replaced on the bottom floors. It was tested for a fire the size of "...3 closely spaced passenger cars". It was also tested for plane crashes...with the Boeing 707, a plane that's been out of production since 1979, and has nowhere near the threat capacity of a Boeing 767, either in speed or fuel capacity. In short, the testing was woefully out of date.
@ChiTownSaint420 The sprinkler systems were found to be inadequate, and all the fireproofing had to be replaced because of asbestos, which they were in the process of doing.
And this comes from the Port Authority of New York
@SonofSethoitae Are you serious? A basic understanding of science disproves my argument? Tell that to the 1600+ experts at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. YOU ARE COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
@SonofSethoitae You expect me to believe that 1 quote by the port authority disproves testimonies of several first responders that reported explosions on lower levels, molten steel weeks after the collapse, and the numerous cover-ups by the government? Get real dude, do you have a date for that quote? can you tell me who said it and where i can find it?
@ChiTownSaint420 And for the record, the burden of proof isn't on me. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the individual who presents a theory, not on the one who calls "bullshit!"
@SonofSethoitae I hope that you can prove me wrong because i wish it wasn't true, but it is. And i believe it's my duty to question this info and come up with my own opinion. Not only does your argument for the collapse not make any sense, your reasoning for why you disagree with me doesn't either, you hate the government, and call them liars, therefore you believe the official 9/11 Story, and i'm a dipshit. Huh?
@ChiTownSaint420 I don't believe it because the government said it moron, I believe it in spite of that.
Fire of a certain temperature and duration makes steel sag, and when the steel supporting a building sags, it breaks. And when it breaks, the building collapses under it's own weight.
I form my own opinion by evidence, by things which are ACTUALLY ADMISSABLE AS EVIDENCE. Not Hearsay from panicked citizens.
@SonofSethoitae It makes steels sag, that is true, but it doesn't cut steel. go look at some debris photos, some support structures look like they have been cut with termite, which is taped, watch Killuminati The Movie Part 1 here on youtube, great footage in that video and the guy who makes it makes a good case for the global conspiracy as well
@ChiTownSaint420 No, THE WEIGHT OF THE SKYSCRAPER does that. It BREAKS steel, it wasn't cut.
So their photographic and documentary evidence, as well as their clear indication that truthers are mischaracterizing the quotes they use as evidence isn't enough for you? What WOULD be enough? Nothing, you're in your own reality which plays by your twisted rules.
So, you watched a biased video, eyeballed a few things, and drew a conclusion. Some sound detective work you've got there.
@SonofSethoitae Yeah thats what i did. For fucks sake im using it as an example. Did you even watch it? Iv'e read too many articles from your website, and they haven't changed my opinion. You don't get it I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THIS. It wouldn't fall down as straight as possible in free fall from a fucking fire. Iv'e seen your proof and it's unconvincing. And quit making personal judgments on me, about MY "twisted reality" you live in a fairy land.
@ChiTownSaint420 It didn't fall down straight, it fell down RELATIVELY straight. Because of how the Twin Towers were built, yes it would fall down relatively straight.
Images taken by inspection authorities, as well as their written reports are unconvincing? How? How can that NOT be evidence?
@SonofSethoitae Oh relatively straight, what a gigantic bombshell. And there wasn't even a real investigation until they moved all the incriminating evidence out of ground zero, even then it got minimal funding, like iv'e said debunking911 is unconvincing to me,AE911Truth make a much better argument in my opinion. Have you watched that video yet?
Have you seen how crooked the top of those buildings were before the collapse? They were practically 45 degree angles! Which is pretty straight considering it was fucking collapsing on itself.
You have no evidence. All you really have is a supposed lack of evidence on my side. But again, I don't have to prove anything. You presented the theory that 9/11 is an inside job, now show me some hard evidence. It's on YOU to prove it correct.
@SonofSethoitae 45 degree angle? what are you dense? and how is it bullshit? Please tell me how? How do you expect me to show you hard evidence when you can't show me any. do you think all of these people are idiots? If your evidence was so overwhelming that i or anybody else who can see could not deny it then we wouldn't. But your evidence is bogus compared to the mountains of evidence that supports the contrary.
@ChiTownSaint420 I just explained to you why I don't yet have to show you any evidence. You presented the premise, now you demonstrate evidence. Somthing solid. Then I present mine. Not before.
It's bullshit because he also makes stupid assumptions based on nothing more thatn hearsay and paranoia.
My evidence, unlike yours, is based on tangible reality, not "video evidence". So mine is more convincing to the rational than your "mountain" of bogus "evidence".
@SonofSethoitae Also look up Operation Northwoods, Reichstag Fire, Aaron Russo, David Lynch, David Icke, Bill Cooper, Alex Jones, bilderberg group, A&E for 9/11 Truth, wearechange, the patriot act, the underwear bomber, NDAA, thermite, and 9/11 lies. you don't need me to guide you through your a big boy.
@ChiTownSaint420 David Icke? Really? That's your shining example of evidence? The guy who claims that shape shifting reptillian aliens secretly control the earth? Good god...
I'm aware of all of these things, I've done my homework, so again, you can stop patronizing me any time. I'm not convinced, because all I've seen in support of these are anecdotal and video evidence. Video taken under stressful conditions, or with an agenda.
If Icke is so horrendously wrong about one thing, it opens the door for me to criticize him as a potential source of truth. The man doesn't know how to tell reality from fantasy after all.
I want it to be clear, I DON'T BUY YOUR THEORY. Not for lack of evidence, but for lack of GOOD evidence. The sort of evidence that would stand up in court or a scientific enquiry.
@SonofSethoitae There is plenty of scientific evidence like i said AEfor911Truth ect. im not claiming to hold all the knowledge here, i don't have to because its all over the place
@ChiTownSaint420 I've studied the so called scientific evidence of truthers and there is nothing, NOTHING, that could not have been caused by the crashing of the planes and subsequent explosion.
@SonofSethoitae So your agreeing with me again? of course nothing was caused by the crash, because that was the distraction and the reason to blame the collapse. Revise your sentences lest you sound like a insane truther. plus you contradict yourself first you say that i have no evidence, then you say i do but it's not good evidence? physics says that lower levels would have to be weakened and taken out for a building of that size to fall like that at freefall.
@SonofSethoitae plus if the tops of the towers were slanted at an angle, like you said, then it would have fallen off the side, not even coming down remotely straight and it wouldn't have taken the rest of the tower down if it fell like that. but it didn't. footage in slow mo during the collapse show each level taken out by and explosion within seconds of eachother all the way down. and thermite sparks and white smoke caused by thermite seconds before the collapse. your deplorable and i'm done
@ChiTownSaint420 And what is it that you're seeing as explosions? The windows bursting out and a concussive force. Which can also be caused by a higher floor caving in on top of a lower floor. And isn't it funny that the demolitions experts found no sighns of thermite anywhere in the debris during 8 months of excavation?
@SonofSethoitae Demiliton experts found plenty of evidence of thermite! lol that's just laughable, your right fuck this there is no waking y'all up! have fun in your 1984 Orwellian society everybody, peace and love
@ChiTownSaint420 So how is it that all this "evidence" isn't converted to a criminal complaint? Any judge would reveiw it and issue a warrant. Is it because the evidence is entirely fabricated or misinterpreted; like thermite actually being aluminum scraped across rust and drywall?
Or is the money trail, confessions of bin Laden, martyrdom videos and the ideology of Islam is much more compelling?
Ramzi Yousef, Khalid Mohammed, Atta and bin Laden ARE engineers - you are not.
@ChiTownSaint420 The amount of evidence for a theory means jack shit, it's the veracity and reliability of that evidence that counts. There's loads and loads of supposed evidence that says the moon landing was faked, but none of it holds up under scrutiny. Your supposed evidence has not reliability whatsoever.
@SonofSethoitae Yeah realistic evidence is Atta's passport magically floated down to the street below, "proving" he did it, and the hijackers luggage (why the fuck did they need bags?) coincidentally got lost and had a quaran, and a flying manual in it? Yeah that's totally credible.
@SonofSethoitae your arguments suck, and you obviously don't understand what i'm talking about and have not even looked at my sugestions. I think it's because you refuse to believe what anybody has to say. and your evidence isn't top notch buddy. you want to accuse me of being bias? you have only given me one site that i have seen over and over. your not a fucking scientist your a guy on youtube, your not a brilliant debater, your an asswipe, I'm just a normal guy doing what i can to wake people
@ChiTownSaint420 Oh, insults, now i'm convinced. It wasn't the site i was trying to point you towards, it was their sources, for you to look at yourself. Surely you know how to do research. I don't refuse to listen to what people say, I refuse to believe until I see evidence. My evidence was their evidence, they just collected sources and other assorted items conveniently in one location. Your ability to debate isn't brilliant if you have to fling words like "asswipe" around.
@SonofSethoitae This coming from the guy who called me "dipshit" right off the bat. Take your own fucking advice. I've seen your proof and im unconvinced. MAJORITY? are you serious? the majority of families of victims believe it was an inside job, the majority of FDNY thinks the same, And the majority of the official 9/11 story has been dis-proven. especially what you have claimed. plenty of experts support my claim as well, you're just proving you didn't watch or read anything i suggested.
@ChiTownSaint420 Bullcrap, point me towards these so called experts in reputable, peer reviewed publications. Because I've never seen anyone reputable claim anything contrary to me.
Yes, I have read your drivel. I just don't believe it, or the people who spout it. again, there's no real evidence, and an appeal to authority doesn't help your case.
@ChiTownSaint420 Your main adhereants are people who were directly traumatized by the event, and who are understandably angry at a lack of concern from their government, and are not exactly in the most rational or objective state of mind, and so have testimony which must be taken with a grain of salt. Families of the victims were for the most part not even there.
My proof is not based on eyeballing old video and drawing conclusions, it's based in scientific inquiry.
@ChiTownSaint420 And how do you know Icke is wrong? He could be but then again he could be right. The worst thing to do is to dismiss somebody and call them crazy, these people are not crazy, they started out as curious and developed their own opinion along the way. Are you going to deny the accuracy of Bill Cooper's prediction of 9/11 3 months before it happened, and the "coincidental" shooting that he died in shortly after?
democracy eyyy!!
nak861 1 day ago
Kevin Smith for president!
TheJo4an 1 day ago
I used to watch his show, I don't remember people screaming out. When did this start to happen?
Callirgos1 1 day ago
@Callirgos1 It's only the second time that I remember.
psychwardmovies 5 hours ago
Soldiers invaded their lands, killed civilians in the Middle East (there are videos) because the USA gov brainwashed them into thinking that Arabs were responsible for the 9/11, engineers say that it' s an inside job. They want the oil, anyone who rebels is called a terrorist, Yeah there are religious fanatics but most of the terrorists are just rebels. RATE THIS UP SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRUTH WE CAN SAVE LIVES, WE ARE CHANGING THIS WORLD, EVERYONE IS REBELLING. You guys are naive & brainwashed.
saramichealhpt 2 days ago
@saramichealhpt Your on youtube, dude. No lives at stake here.
psychwardmovies 5 hours ago
I wish maher would read a book. Do you know he has never read a book...He likes comic books.
darkfur35 2 days ago
I would love to see bill go in the crown and throw down. ha
TheZoostudio13 5 days ago
@TheZoostudio13 He frickin' did that to the last guy a few years ago! It was kinda awesome.
psychwardmovies 5 hours ago
the World Trade Center was demolished with explosives!
smitty121981 1 week ago
Kevin Smith is the best!!! hahahahaah his reaction when the guy starts screaming is priceless
MrPsychedelic11 1 week ago
@MrPsychedelic11 see that woman in red laughing at his "dad shut up" joke? anyone with a funny bone who is a female loves kevin smith
marktisgod1 4 days ago
oh my god thats funny as fuck
StereoIWantItAll 1 week ago
lol if he told me to shut up, id rip his fat face off!!
tommytit88 2 weeks ago
Why the FUCK did that bitch turn to Smiley instead of Bill and ask, "Does this happen very often?"
SERIOUSLY!? You know Tavis did the black thing and was like, "Shut up bitch" and started lookin around for more trouble. He was ready to dip!
MakeshiftEstablished 2 weeks ago 2
don't taze me bro
BeerHombre 2 weeks ago 2
At least truthers aren't afraid to stand up and scream they need psychiatric help.
fuzzywuzy 2 weeks ago
0:38 the eyes of a criminal being concerned for half a second. Nice to watch.
aussiegoodegg 2 weeks ago
Look at the criminals getting uncomfortable. Great to watch. Well done on the person who fucked with their delusions of grandeur.
aussiegoodegg 2 weeks ago
What a criminal.
aussiegoodegg 2 weeks ago
only professional jews and mossad are liars about sept 11
GENIUS99999992345678 2 weeks ago
maher is a jew lockgoosestep with all the kikes
GENIUS99999992345678 2 weeks ago
@GENIUS99999992345678 ...dude, what.
AwesomeSauce1000 2 weeks ago
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Thumbs up if dude w the jersey looks like a 90s Sinbad!
CaneCorsoJazz 2 weeks ago
omg, see? these are the kinds of morons who believe in the 9/11 conspiracy.
RyZombie619 2 weeks ago 3
Kevin Smith should be his sidekick. They would be awesome!
torganya 2 weeks ago 2
Wow, wasn't expecting to see Silent Bob.
DonutFeverBaby 3 weeks ago 2
@ 0:38 you see Maher shapeshifting.
Drahgoon 3 weeks ago
"That went better in rehearsal." Nice.
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Jellowlink 3 weeks ago
See the thing is about most regular people, they are under the impression that the government does nothing wrong..they never do anything bad, they are 100 percent completely okay and would never harm a soul. People that live in the real fucking world know that CIA agents been bringing Cocaine and Guns into this country to make personal money for agents. Iran Contra was about gov offiicals selling guns to both sides so we can make money. We started a 3 wars over oil. So ill stay a informed wacko.
DJRAKKK 4 weeks ago
@DJRAKKK come on pal. give it a break. you're the comedian here, everyone is laughing at you. you're clinging to those crappy paper straws you never see anymore because they're illegal. How about a new take on life where you stop taking pleasure from other peoples anguish. all governments are naughty, some are naughtier than others; some go out of their way to be naughty however trust me in every possible way: you're abiding by those who attack us by posting such comments.
largegent 4 weeks ago
@DJRAKKK Have a seat, Oprah.
footluv71 3 weeks ago
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@DJRAKKK Have a seat, Oprah.
footluv71 3 weeks ago
@DJRAKKK Have a seat, Oprah.
footluv71 3 weeks ago
@DJRAKKK Have a seat, Oprah.
footluv71 3 weeks ago
"you want an audience full of quack nut job leftists this is what you get"
You would sound even stupider if you misspelled some of those words. Maybe awdianse or wat u get. Give it a go.
eirefrance 4 weeks ago
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CheddarBob39 4 weeks ago
a democracy is only as good as its people.
god help you all LOL
H3770mynameis 1 month ago
I can understand why "truthers" believe what they do, think about it. It's really quite an attractive notion to think you know something most others don't, to think this knowledge makes you "enlightened" and therefore more important than those who are "ignorant". To think you've uncovered a mass conspiracy where important world figures control people's minds and follow some satanic agenda; little do these "truthers" know, it's them being brainwashed by people like Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura.
cptorangutang2 1 month ago 2
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CheddarBob39 4 weeks ago
Gotta love Kevin Smith
NoRegretsForOurYouth 1 month ago
people in this world are SO fucked up. whoever believes in 911 conspiracies are the biggest nutcases! listen to that freak! is that the type of guy u want to listen to?
InfectedInHD 1 month ago
@InfectedInHD -_- watch loose change.....then talk
larrybird1011 4 weeks ago
@larrybird1011 doesnt mean u arnt a nut case! lol u have to admit people who believe in that shit are fucked in the head. that guy in the crowd must have had some mental issues
InfectedInHD 4 weeks ago
@InfectedInHD maybe he is i don't know the guy. what i'm saying is that if you really look into 9/11 even if you don't believe in the conspiracies behind it the way the event was handled is extremely strange, unprofessional and secretive. watch that fucking documentary otherwise STFU don't talk shit about things you don't understand
larrybird1011 4 weeks ago
@larrybird1011 i understand it, im just saying the people that agree with you are the most unsucessful people ever. im saying you should bring it up on a date with a girl (or guy) or to anyone. nobody likes someone that thinks that
InfectedInHD 4 weeks ago
lol stupid wacko
TOTCD 1 month ago
Stop giving people the credit of calling them "Truthers" when they don't know jack shit
TheChevroletBlazer 1 month ago
That guy in that ugly blue and orange shirt is cute
ToutCQJM 1 month ago
Anyone else like how the video cuts out when the black guy starts talking?
Fr0ggit 1 month ago
@Fr0ggit The Black Guy? You mean Tavis Smiley? A well known and respected person? Where do you live under a rock?
taleahj 4 weeks ago
Silent Bob!
CaptainHurpDurp 1 month ago
I like chubs over there holding his hand up.
Mrclawstorm 1 month ago
Rofl... It's just so surreal. Them all calmly sitting there while some fucking nutter is going completely crazy.
ChainsawVsGod 1 month ago
@howardandbrownfamily "you want an audience full of quack nut job leftists " - I do believe you'll find that quite a lot of the conspiracy theorists are the same people who think that Obama wasn't born in the US, think the government is full of socialists and want to "end the fed."
TheAsymmetrical 1 month ago
"Dad, shut up!"
I don't know what the fuck Kevin Smith is doing on a current events show, but that was pretty damn funny.
BatmanOneOhOne 1 month ago 65
@BatmanOneOhOne His new movie "Red State" was coming out. So he was promoting it.
bwbk007 1 week ago
@bwbk007 Haha I know, but anybody who listens to SModcast knows he's not exactly "up" with current events.
BatmanOneOhOne 1 week ago
DONT TASE ME BRO
OGKadaffi 1 month ago
The fireproofing on the WTC was found to be insufficient in the early 90's, and had only been replaced on the bottom floors. It was tested for a fire the size of "...3 closely spaced passenger cars". It was also tested for plane crashes...with the Boeing 707, a plane that's been out of production since 1979, and has nowhere near the threat capacity of a Boeing 767, either in speed or fuel capacity. In short, the testing was woefully out of date. Also, there were apparently inadequate sprinklers.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
All this info is right there in front of you. 9/11 aside isn't tyranny starting to take over. you guys are blind as fuck this shit is all over the place. i cant help you idiots. if all this shit is right there in front of you, lies by our government and your TV have clouded your minds. The U.S is turning into a fascist nation and this is just the tip of the iceberg. And im not a drug addict drugs are synthetically manufactured products like crack. i use things that are found in nature
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 I have no agenda to spread hate or ignorance, but there is NO evidence to support your claims. Al-Qaeda didn't exist in the Gulf War, there were several Muhajideen groups which amalgamated after the Soviet retreat and BECAME Al-Qaeda. AFTERWARDS. Without US support in response to anarchy. I'm not ignorant, I'm rational. The burden of proof isn't on me, it's on YOU.
Also, you said I was "talking with a serious drug addict kid".I made the logical leap, which you seem incapable of.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae I never said that thsat was hatebigots1 talking about me. re-read the comments.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae I was the one who said you were "talking with a serious drug addict kid", and the junkie I was mentioning is chitownsaint420.
Didnt you realized he is stoned or crazy?
Or do you think a normal person would say such dumb crap with such angry (and funny!) insults?
Conspiracy theorists are nutcases. Like Charlie Sheen a few months ago.
I am on your side, pal.
hatebigots1 1 month ago 2
@hatebigots1 Ah, I see. Yeah, he's ridiculously paranoid. Thank God there are still rational people out there.
"Your evidence is unconvincing". Yeah, they're only experts on skyscraper engineering... :P
Thanks
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago 12
@SonofSethoitae I met many conspiracy theorists.
Some are poorly informed.
Majority are angry nutcases.
Did you realized that they support muslim terrorists, muslim dictatorships. After all, CIA did all their terrorist attacks and created Arabian Spring. So they say... :/
Strange coincidence that nazis, Stalin and goons use to love such theories. Which also blame same targets, like jews/zionists...
And they call themselves free...
Like dwarfs gloating how tall they are.
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 Yeah, they hate the government because they believe them competent. I hate them because I know that they are not.
The CIA did fun various Muhajideen groups, but to say that they formed Al-Qaeda or the Arab Spring is demonstrably false.
Everything he accused me of he himself was gulity of. Thankfully someone saw that.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Conspiracy paranoids see CIA or "zionism" everywhere.
There is not such things as laws of economics, political movements, social problems, etc.
Only an half dozen guys controlling 7 billion human beings.
Its stupid but that nutcase included David Ickes, the nutcase about alien reptiles, in his list of "finders of truth"...
Soooo, nothing is too stupid/insane for him...
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 Pretty much, yeah. I actually quite like David Icke though. Best source of free comedy on the internet.
Apparently David Icke is, according to this guy "98%" accurate. So, the aliens are only two percent? Because they're kinda his whole theory and all.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae I would like to know if Icke is just mocking conspiracy nuts.
Considering most of them are obsessed at finding "paid agents of CIA/Mossad" in any rational bloke who doesn't believe them, believing in Icke would be funny and revealing. :D
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 hahahaha, true, very true. Apparently he does actually believe it though, a friend of mine met him once. Which actually just makes it funnier :P
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Let me say 1 of the best examples how they, the conspiracionist pobsessed ones, are smarter than "sheep".
Alex Jones & an anonymous portuguese guy said: "you may not believe me, but people i didn't believed in Galileo Galilei when he said EARTH WAS NOT ROUND!" Galilei, they said! Guess they didn't went to elementary school!!
LOL
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 The guy believes in Reptilians. What to expect? And people still believe Aaron Russo was killed by a CIA hit. Didn't know cancer was a CIA agent.
blacktigerpaw1 1 month ago
@blacktigerpaw1 Everything is a conspiracy. HIV, all terrorist attacks, world crisis, etc.
7 billion human being are controlled by half dozen people. Yeah, right.
Well, reptilian aliens from an advanced planet are more credible as lords of the planet. :/
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 The conspiracy theories are not as nearly as revealing as some people's willingness to believe in them... I completely agree.
fuzzywuzy 2 weeks ago
@fuzzywuzy Sorry late reply.
Your comment will be remembered and quoted by me.
After, most of conspiracy theorists I talked with, were angry, paranoid and arrogant. And illogical.
hatebigots1 3 days ago
watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
dwgangsat 1 month ago
9-11 was an inside job...
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@dwgangsat The only inside job is your retardation.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 2
@H1TMANactual Really..I'm the retarded one...ok...just show me a video of a plane crashing into the pentagon...oh wait you can't, they're hiding all the footage...and why is that...?
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@dwgangsat There are hundreds of pictures of plane debris all over pentagon and a video, not to mention over 150 witnesses that saw a plane. Like I said, fucking retard.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual all i want is video proof...why can't we see it? That engine that they found as debri was to small to be an engine of a Boeing 757. I want them to just show me a video....what's there to hide...
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual that video doesn't show a plane AT ALL
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual as for the debris again, they were little crappy scraps...where were the wings, or the tail....hmmm....all we saw was little pieces of crap....I might be retarded, but you're brain dead...
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@dwgangsat LMAO no one care what YOU want. The videos are private. FBI doesn't have the legal authority to release it. And the video does show a plane. There are plenty of pieces enough to identify it as Boeing. /watch?v=GodGViR7T4I
And which part of over 150 witnesses saw a plane is too hard for you to understand nutjob?
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual The link didn't work...well who ever has the legal authority to release it, why don't they??? The government has lied before with similar attacks(ship attacks) to get the U.S. in war. Like for an example, the Spanish-American war and the Vietnam war are classic examples. For the 150 witnesses, that means nothing, the gov is known for disinformation agents and convincing/threatening witnesses to admit to things that didn't really happen...just look at the evidence...
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual watch?v=quTifldhH-g
dwgangsat 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual i must be blind or you have eye problems, cause i saw no plane in that crap footage...i found this video, not too sure if it's real or not but...just look...watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls
dwgangsat 1 month ago
Twoofers are still trying??
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
with all the proof out there now, if you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, than your an idiot. Seriously, that's the most obvious thing they have done. If you still don't believe than you are a lost cause. enjoy your tyranny, we tried to help...
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Twoofer who can't even spell is calling others idiots. How ironic! Watched too many conspiracy videos have we? Stay on your meds nut!
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 2
@H1TMANactual is that the only argument you have? what a tool. you think that all of my knowledge of this comes from one source? you would have to be a simpleton to believe the official 9/11 story. why don't you do some actual research instead of taking what ever the news says as fact. btw there are no spelling errors, (grammatical perhaps), i use spell-check :)
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Why don't you try your twoofer theories then. See if you can defend them.
And spell check can't tell you the difference between "your" and "you're" LOL.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual is that it? still no argument or facts, just ripping on my spelling? Yeah you're (better?) just the brightest crayon in the box aren't ya? if your just gonna argue about trivial shit then i won't respond. come on tell me why the 9/11 truth movement is false. go ahead ill wait for you to present some actual facts.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 yeah i expected as much from a sheep like you. go play some more call of duty you deplorable fucking troglididte. all your doing is running a psy- op. you think the NWO is going to benefit you? no they will cast you aside once they are done with you. so keep being a good sheep and regurgitate what you heard on fox news. WAKE THE FUCK UP
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 LOL talking to yourself? What a fucking nutjob!
Yes please continue fighting teh NWO for me by buying Alex Jones dvds LOL.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 3
@H1TMANactual again you bring nothing to the table.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Laughing at your retarded ass is plenty bringing to the table. Aren't you supposed to dazzle me with your WTC 7 demolition, NWO, fluoride, chemtrail theories? LOL. Fucking nutjob.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 3
@H1TMANactual all true by the way. tell me how they aren't.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 LOL of course they are. Put your tin foil hat back on go hide from illuminati lizard people LOL
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 3
@H1TMANactual well if your not going to make an intelligent argument then this conversation is over,i just pray that you will quit being stupid and learn the truth soon, or you can be a puppet, you need to be led because you are weak spirited and weak minded. your supporting scum who would kill you just for a few dollars. you're not a patriot, your a pawn. If you want to explain why im wrong using facts then i implore you to. If it's going to be more high school trash talk then kindly fuck off
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual WTF dude you don't even know what i believe. i just research all aspects of what people believe. the fact that you have top comment just shows me that people are easily fooled and ridicule truthers, Did i say anything about lizard people? no. your a fucking idiot and can't defend your argument. None of you can. i run into you bastards daily, and it's all the same trash talk, no facts, no substance, no intelligence. i feel bad for you guys, i really do.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Slave, you only insult and parrot that experts in physics and any other subject are all paid by government. Your ONLY answer to their logical debunking of your paranoia.
Its aaaall a big world domination conspiracy.
You are enslaved by paranoia & dogmas.
Islamic terrorists and dictators are happy with your mumbo jumbo theories.
Good puppet and slave you are for them.
Sad deluded child...
skepticaldemocrat 1 month ago
@skepticaldemocrat Google the name Tim Osman you pretentious cunt. All these "terrorists" are a hoax. Al-Queda was founded and funded by the CIA. Top Al-Queda officials met and dined in the white house. Al-Queda was recently put in charge of Libya. You are the slave, you are the puppet. boy i miss being ignorant like you, life was so much easier, but i got smarter. I double-check all my info, i would be suprised if you HAD any info.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Hahaha
You slaves are so funny.
Al Qaeda in charge of Libya??? hahahaha
Good slave: your master will give you a bone as a reward for your submission! :D
I love being smarter than paranoids!
skepticaldemocrat 1 month ago
@skepticaldemocrat Yeah that's on record. Watching to much TV I suppose. Please just look it up. That's the thing about you sheeple, you watch CNN and think your so smart, but when your arguing with somebody who has done their homework you say " haha what a nutjob!","I love being smarter..", where is your argument? It just more shit-talking. I really hope you wake up soon
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 I read more books, site & magazines than watch TV, child...
I never saw CNN.
Because am european! LOL
And my english is better than yours: "sheeple" doesn't exist in english grammar, illiterate slave.
Pretentious, sheeple, bla bla
Is that your argument? Childish insults?
Nothing more?
Oh, and your site with baseless story about Tim Osman made me laugh.
Slave, when you become insane you ruined your life. I hope you increase your medication. 10 times.
skepticaldemocrat 1 month ago
@skepticaldemocrat Pretentious is a word... sheeple is kind of like a slang term... you have seen CNN international don't bullshit me, Baseless? How so And why do you think i take meds? i wouldn't put that shit in my body. I'm more sane than you will ever be you pawn.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Poor sad nutcase, you love being owned, huh?
Skeptic, ignore him. He is a child or a fanatic whose dogmas had ,as you would say, enslaved his puny mind.
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 Owned? You guys cant even argue back.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420
Al-Queda wasn't started by the CIA dipshit, that was the Taliban. And if you want to split hairs, technically it wasn't even the Taliban, it was the Muhajideen. There ARE terrorists, but the threat has been blown out of proportion. Al-Queda wasn't put in charge of Libya, nice try though.
Not everything you read on the internet is true
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae You are talking with a serious drug addict kid, pal.
He only tries to insult! Not a single rational argument.
Google "Tim Osman": you will laugh at the slave minded 9/11 conspiracionists who believe it! LOL
hatebigots1 1 month ago
@hatebigots1 You're a drug addict? That makes me take your points seriously...
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. There is no evidence scientifically of their claims. It's all bullshit. So he doesn't need to.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Go watch the BBC say that Al-Queda was CIA created. the fucking BBC said this. look it up right here on youtube. It's called "The Power of Nightmares" they were set up when the soviets were invading Afghanistan. Come on dude it's so fucking obvious. I wish all of this wasn't true, I wish i could be in ignorant bliss and belive the 9/11 story, but it's not easy to know what I know and walk out the door, because people like you exist. people who buy into the bullshit.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 How about the plan would be totally non-sensical. "Let's plant bombs in the World Trade Centre, then crash planes into it and claim terrorists destroyed them that way, because just blowing them up and claiming terrorists did it would just be lunacy!" They'd have to involve THOUSANDS to make a subterfuge like that work, and it's simply not the case. Never mind the physics of a planeload of jet fuel exploding would in fact cause a building to collapse.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Yeah a building that was made to withstand a plane crash falls down in free fall because of a fire in the upper levels, One of the hijackers passports is found on the street below, The attacks didn't kill anyone who was involved with illegal gov contracts, the footage of explosions in the lower levels were made by crazy conspirators trying to overturn our perfect government. you're right, they love us, they would never do this.. smh
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Yes, they built the World Trade Centre to withstand plane crashes and subsequent jet fuel explosions. How did a passport survive a crash which incinerated the black boxes, and more importantly what the hell does that have to do with making your point. There WERE NO LOWER LEVEL EXPLOSIONS. I don't know if you know this, but if you stress the foundation of a building like that, they burst. Just because they didn't kill anyone involved with government contracts means jack shit.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Just do more research, because your arguments aren't showing me shit.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 And don't patronize me by saying I'm the government's biggest fanboy. I hate the government, I hate how they kick us while we're down and expect adoration. They're dishonest fuckers who are doing a piss-poor job. And it's for that reason that I don't buy your bullshit story. I've looked at the evidence and for your side there is none. A basic understanding of science disproves your theory. My love for humanity is infinite, and I will not have them deluded by bullshit.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Bullshit? dude i don't even have to tell you, the evidence is in front of your face. Where is your evidence? What kind of research have you done? Please educate me all-knowing educator! Where did you get your info? Popular Mechanics? CNN? Fox? Go ahead, show ME some proof for your argument.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
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@ChiTownSaint420 The fireproofing on the WTC was found to be insufficient in the early 90's, and had only been replaced on the bottom floors. It was tested for a fire the size of "...3 closely spaced passenger cars". It was also tested for plane crashes...with the Boeing 707, a plane that's been out of production since 1979, and has nowhere near the threat capacity of a Boeing 767, either in speed or fuel capacity. In short, the testing was woefully out of date.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 The sprinkler systems were found to be inadequate, and all the fireproofing had to be replaced because of asbestos, which they were in the process of doing.
And this comes from the Port Authority of New York
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Are you serious? A basic understanding of science disproves my argument? Tell that to the 1600+ experts at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. YOU ARE COMPLETELY BRAINWASHED. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
Brainwashed. An interesting buzzword. It seems to mean "people who don't think like me". Don't patronize me, I showed you my proof.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae You expect me to believe that 1 quote by the port authority disproves testimonies of several first responders that reported explosions on lower levels, molten steel weeks after the collapse, and the numerous cover-ups by the government? Get real dude, do you have a date for that quote? can you tell me who said it and where i can find it?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 And for the record, the burden of proof isn't on me. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the individual who presents a theory, not on the one who calls "bullshit!"
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae I'm the one calling "bullshit" here. break down your argument in a PM for me because i cannot express all of this in 500 letters
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae I hope that you can prove me wrong because i wish it wasn't true, but it is. And i believe it's my duty to question this info and come up with my own opinion. Not only does your argument for the collapse not make any sense, your reasoning for why you disagree with me doesn't either, you hate the government, and call them liars, therefore you believe the official 9/11 Story, and i'm a dipshit. Huh?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 I don't believe it because the government said it moron, I believe it in spite of that.
Fire of a certain temperature and duration makes steel sag, and when the steel supporting a building sags, it breaks. And when it breaks, the building collapses under it's own weight.
I form my own opinion by evidence, by things which are ACTUALLY ADMISSABLE AS EVIDENCE. Not Hearsay from panicked citizens.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae It makes steels sag, that is true, but it doesn't cut steel. go look at some debris photos, some support structures look like they have been cut with termite, which is taped, watch Killuminati The Movie Part 1 here on youtube, great footage in that video and the guy who makes it makes a good case for the global conspiracy as well
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 No, THE WEIGHT OF THE SKYSCRAPER does that. It BREAKS steel, it wasn't cut.
So their photographic and documentary evidence, as well as their clear indication that truthers are mischaracterizing the quotes they use as evidence isn't enough for you? What WOULD be enough? Nothing, you're in your own reality which plays by your twisted rules.
So, you watched a biased video, eyeballed a few things, and drew a conclusion. Some sound detective work you've got there.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Yeah thats what i did. For fucks sake im using it as an example. Did you even watch it? Iv'e read too many articles from your website, and they haven't changed my opinion. You don't get it I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THIS. It wouldn't fall down as straight as possible in free fall from a fucking fire. Iv'e seen your proof and it's unconvincing. And quit making personal judgments on me, about MY "twisted reality" you live in a fairy land.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 It didn't fall down straight, it fell down RELATIVELY straight. Because of how the Twin Towers were built, yes it would fall down relatively straight.
Images taken by inspection authorities, as well as their written reports are unconvincing? How? How can that NOT be evidence?
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Oh relatively straight, what a gigantic bombshell. And there wasn't even a real investigation until they moved all the incriminating evidence out of ground zero, even then it got minimal funding, like iv'e said debunking911 is unconvincing to me,AE911Truth make a much better argument in my opinion. Have you watched that video yet?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Who HASN'T seen Killuminati. It's bullshit.
Have you seen how crooked the top of those buildings were before the collapse? They were practically 45 degree angles! Which is pretty straight considering it was fucking collapsing on itself.
You have no evidence. All you really have is a supposed lack of evidence on my side. But again, I don't have to prove anything. You presented the theory that 9/11 is an inside job, now show me some hard evidence. It's on YOU to prove it correct.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae 45 degree angle? what are you dense? and how is it bullshit? Please tell me how? How do you expect me to show you hard evidence when you can't show me any. do you think all of these people are idiots? If your evidence was so overwhelming that i or anybody else who can see could not deny it then we wouldn't. But your evidence is bogus compared to the mountains of evidence that supports the contrary.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 I just explained to you why I don't yet have to show you any evidence. You presented the premise, now you demonstrate evidence. Somthing solid. Then I present mine. Not before.
It's bullshit because he also makes stupid assumptions based on nothing more thatn hearsay and paranoia.
My evidence, unlike yours, is based on tangible reality, not "video evidence". So mine is more convincing to the rational than your "mountain" of bogus "evidence".
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Also look up Operation Northwoods, Reichstag Fire, Aaron Russo, David Lynch, David Icke, Bill Cooper, Alex Jones, bilderberg group, A&E for 9/11 Truth, wearechange, the patriot act, the underwear bomber, NDAA, thermite, and 9/11 lies. you don't need me to guide you through your a big boy.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 David Icke? Really? That's your shining example of evidence? The guy who claims that shape shifting reptillian aliens secretly control the earth? Good god...
I'm aware of all of these things, I've done my homework, so again, you can stop patronizing me any time. I'm not convinced, because all I've seen in support of these are anecdotal and video evidence. Video taken under stressful conditions, or with an agenda.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae yeah i don't agree with all of what Icke says but the makes some good points.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 What? God no, where did you get that idea?
If Icke is so horrendously wrong about one thing, it opens the door for me to criticize him as a potential source of truth. The man doesn't know how to tell reality from fantasy after all.
I want it to be clear, I DON'T BUY YOUR THEORY. Not for lack of evidence, but for lack of GOOD evidence. The sort of evidence that would stand up in court or a scientific enquiry.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae There is plenty of scientific evidence like i said AEfor911Truth ect. im not claiming to hold all the knowledge here, i don't have to because its all over the place
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 I've studied the so called scientific evidence of truthers and there is nothing, NOTHING, that could not have been caused by the crashing of the planes and subsequent explosion.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae So your agreeing with me again? of course nothing was caused by the crash, because that was the distraction and the reason to blame the collapse. Revise your sentences lest you sound like a insane truther. plus you contradict yourself first you say that i have no evidence, then you say i do but it's not good evidence? physics says that lower levels would have to be weakened and taken out for a building of that size to fall like that at freefall.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Where did I say I agreed with you? Where? Quote me.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Physics also says that if the top of the building collapses, the rest goes with it.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae plus if the tops of the towers were slanted at an angle, like you said, then it would have fallen off the side, not even coming down remotely straight and it wouldn't have taken the rest of the tower down if it fell like that. but it didn't. footage in slow mo during the collapse show each level taken out by and explosion within seconds of eachother all the way down. and thermite sparks and white smoke caused by thermite seconds before the collapse. your deplorable and i'm done
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 And what is it that you're seeing as explosions? The windows bursting out and a concussive force. Which can also be caused by a higher floor caving in on top of a lower floor. And isn't it funny that the demolitions experts found no sighns of thermite anywhere in the debris during 8 months of excavation?
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago 2
@SonofSethoitae Demiliton experts found plenty of evidence of thermite! lol that's just laughable, your right fuck this there is no waking y'all up! have fun in your 1984 Orwellian society everybody, peace and love
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 You know what, bugger this. We're both too stubborn to recant our possitions. Have a nice life.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago 2
@ChiTownSaint420 So how is it that all this "evidence" isn't converted to a criminal complaint? Any judge would reveiw it and issue a warrant. Is it because the evidence is entirely fabricated or misinterpreted; like thermite actually being aluminum scraped across rust and drywall?
Or is the money trail, confessions of bin Laden, martyrdom videos and the ideology of Islam is much more compelling?
Ramzi Yousef, Khalid Mohammed, Atta and bin Laden ARE engineers - you are not.
fuzzywuzy 2 weeks ago
@ChiTownSaint420 The amount of evidence for a theory means jack shit, it's the veracity and reliability of that evidence that counts. There's loads and loads of supposed evidence that says the moon landing was faked, but none of it holds up under scrutiny. Your supposed evidence has not reliability whatsoever.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae Yeah realistic evidence is Atta's passport magically floated down to the street below, "proving" he did it, and the hijackers luggage (why the fuck did they need bags?) coincidentally got lost and had a quaran, and a flying manual in it? Yeah that's totally credible.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Yeah, cause NONE of that could be planted or coincidental. The world just doesn't work like that. Oh, wait, yes it does.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae so your agreeing with me then?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae your arguments suck, and you obviously don't understand what i'm talking about and have not even looked at my sugestions. I think it's because you refuse to believe what anybody has to say. and your evidence isn't top notch buddy. you want to accuse me of being bias? you have only given me one site that i have seen over and over. your not a fucking scientist your a guy on youtube, your not a brilliant debater, your an asswipe, I'm just a normal guy doing what i can to wake people
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Oh, insults, now i'm convinced. It wasn't the site i was trying to point you towards, it was their sources, for you to look at yourself. Surely you know how to do research. I don't refuse to listen to what people say, I refuse to believe until I see evidence. My evidence was their evidence, they just collected sources and other assorted items conveniently in one location. Your ability to debate isn't brilliant if you have to fling words like "asswipe" around.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@SonofSethoitae This coming from the guy who called me "dipshit" right off the bat. Take your own fucking advice. I've seen your proof and im unconvinced. MAJORITY? are you serious? the majority of families of victims believe it was an inside job, the majority of FDNY thinks the same, And the majority of the official 9/11 story has been dis-proven. especially what you have claimed. plenty of experts support my claim as well, you're just proving you didn't watch or read anything i suggested.
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Bullcrap, point me towards these so called experts in reputable, peer reviewed publications. Because I've never seen anyone reputable claim anything contrary to me.
Yes, I have read your drivel. I just don't believe it, or the people who spout it. again, there's no real evidence, and an appeal to authority doesn't help your case.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 Your main adhereants are people who were directly traumatized by the event, and who are understandably angry at a lack of concern from their government, and are not exactly in the most rational or objective state of mind, and so have testimony which must be taken with a grain of salt. Families of the victims were for the most part not even there.
My proof is not based on eyeballing old video and drawing conclusions, it's based in scientific inquiry.
SonofSethoitae 1 month ago
@ChiTownSaint420 And how do you know Icke is wrong? He could be but then again he could be right. The worst thing to do is to dismiss somebody and call them crazy, these people are not crazy, they started out as curious and developed their own opinion along the way. Are you going to deny the accuracy of Bill Cooper's prediction of 9/11 3 months before it happened, and the "coincidental" shooting that he died in shortly after?
ChiTownSaint420 1 month ago