If you don't want your daughter's to be involved in pedophilia, then don't let them dress like little sluts and teach them manners. If you don't, then she'll end up where little Lolita did in that movie.
are you serious?! where did this endless ignorance come from?! pedophiles are not attracted to girls who "dress like little sluts". they are attracted to girls (or boys), period. sexual harrasment can appear no matter what one is wearing!
I don't know why I've nver liked older guys when I was underage, I tell them go fuck themselves. They were freaking weirdos and dumb fucks that thought I was a softy. Not this lil bad bitch!
WRONG on so many levels. It IS peodophilia regardless if its prepubesant. Noone has the right to prey upon a young person for there own sexual lusts. It messes a young person's life up later on.
And it's still peodophila in case you haven't realised genius if the child is UNDER age. In fact its statutory rape in most countries. I suppose you're going to say its okay for brother and sisters to have sex hey.
Bullshit. Doesn't matter if its a older man or an older woman BOTH are wrong because its based purely upon lust. And its predatory. Most girls who have these types of "experimentions" are fucked up later on going on to do porn or can't hold down "normal" relationships with a man her own age.
the mother used the daughter to get him to stay, and lolita was anything but innocent as she was already having an affair with another old man. I don't think any of the characters is remotely likeable and the audience does not want humbert do get the objet of his desire as this review suggests. The audience wants to see him suffer and it's a relief when he gets what he deserves.
Sexual attraction towards a much younger person, regardless of gender, is nothing more than a control problem. Even when the perp is a hot 27 yr old female and the victim is a 14-15 yr old boy.
I strongly disagree with the statement: "It is perfectly natural for both genders to find pubescent teens sexually desirable." I would argue that most adults are strictly attracted to other adults. I also strongly suggest that any adults experiencing attractions to teenagers seek counseling to ensure that these attractions don't lead to immoral activity.
@Engage777 i would rather be a total nerd then watch stupid shit movies like this. your "insult" is my pleasure. nice try though. at least i have a strong moral center when compared to some sad individuals like yourself. kubrick is a hack and has never made a truly good movie, just shit that passes for trash and sucksups who pride themselves on his so called "art", if you want to call this filth art. that is more insulting.
The books and movies have made me want to stay a 'Lolita' forever. I'm 20 now and have always had that Loli fantasy and actually lived it. I don't think it's weird at all but everyone has their own taste.
At hermionelike: Believe me, 16 is way too young to be involved with a much older man. Take it from someone who was young once and who knows. A big age difference is not the ideal situation for a woman. It may be fine for a man, but I have recently heard from young woman friend who got involved with a man 20 years older when she was 20, and now that she is 40, she could not possibly imagine being stuck with a 60-year old.Stick with men your own age. You will be better off in th e long run.
Lol, i dunno why everyones so offended, pedophilia has been around for thousands of years, this films got nothing on what was accepted in greek, spartan, roman societies
i really hate that these perverts hide behind this mask of "ephebophilia" in either case you are still a pervert. It is likely you are far older than the child. Its not okay to "desire" a child. Even if they ARE attractive. There are plenty of attractive women d who arent children. I dont see how you would not want to pursue a relationship with them. Especially since they are more mature and likely more intelligent.
I understand the thrill of a taboo, and even the attraction of youth, but no.
@TEAMRANDOMSTUDIOS in the Antiquity the paideia relationship was widely accepted. Guess it is the time and the norm that decides. You are speaking with the voice of the norm of our time.
Not that i don't agree with you. But anything can be reasoned in the mind of anyone (hypothetically). Including an, well unacceptable, attraction to minors.
@TEAMRANDOMSTUDIOS I don't think "ephebophilia" is a mask, I think it's an actual condition just like Pedophilia is. I think pursuing a relationship with a child has to do with the appeal of innocence, and the fact that children are easily persuaded. I could be wrong though, I'm not a pedophile or an ephebophiliac so I can't really say for sure.
@MidDayKourist yes. she is twelve in the book. and not really as sexually charged as she is in any of the movies. she's more of a normal preteen in the book, all knobby knees and naiivity.
I'm a 16 year old female(the legal age of consent,where I live ) and my boyfriend is much much older than me ,we love each other , we get along wonderfully and can talk about anything , but people would still find something "sick" about it . It's sad really .
i seen this movie the other day.. and fell in Love with the white chic (lolita).... omg.. this movie had to be a hit back than, cause I'm lovin it... wow.. Someone had to smash.... either the Director or Producer. One of them tap that ass in real life... llol
SK is a genius but I have to say the book is only about a million times better than the movie. Even so the movie is still great. The book just happens to be one of the greatest ever written with so much going on terms of ideas and langauge that getting even a fraction of it into a movie is difficult. This is why the movie is nearly four hours long.
I'm amazed more people don't see how hysterical this movie is. Shelly Winters and Peter Sellers and many of the supporting characters (i.e. seller's date @ the dance, the pornographer, etc.) are beyond camp. A cinematic masterpiece!
This is just a question about Lolita's soundtrack.
I would like to know which song is being broadcasted by the radio Lolita is listening to, while taking a sun bath in the garden the first time Humberts meets her
As far as I can tell, his pronunciation is correct since it is an English version and not Spanish. In the movie itself, they pronounce it the way the reviewer does.
You make such a sweeping generalization about the sexuality of girls of the age of 13 or 14..You come across as a bit of a pervert to be honest...& everyone can see what you wrote on youtube!! You're a bright spark aren't you?? You'll be on the sex offenders list next, if you aren't already, lol..
This got nominated for an Oscar for its script even though there were changes from the original novel so they'll meet the MPAA standards back in the 60s.
@clashrogers The MPAA rating system did not start until 1968 under Jack Valenti. Lolita was made in 1962 and was subject to Motion Picture Production Code popularly known as the Hayes Code at that time..
At 2:02 this guy says the audience understand; it should be "the audience understands." Sorry, I can't let it slide. The guy talks very seriously about the movie, but then says some retarded crap like that. He can't fool me.
Actually, you're wrong here. Collective nouns, such as "family" and "audience" may be declined as singular OR plural. Hence, "the audience understand" is not incorrect, even though it's not in popular usage. You'll have to let it slide.
This begs the questions: Is the sex really worth taking responsibility for such a powerful emotional experience in this young person's life? How can you have a meaningful intimate relationship with someone with a mind that is still very inexperienced and underdeveloped, or aren't you just being selfish? It becomes obvious that Mason's character is ill, because no sound minded and rational adult would go through such lengths to "procure" the affections of someone he really didn't care to know.
To him, there is meaning. He sees an idealized version of Lolita. To Lolita, she feels that she has a father figure.
Humbert is not sound minded nor rational, but it's his ability to make it seem beautiful and good that is amazing. He is dreaming. Lolita is also bathing in her childishness.
There isn't a clear cut right and wrong in this movie because it also became blurred in the book.
let's get this straight. There is a very clear distinction between what is Pedophilia(sexual desire for a prepubescent child) and Ephebophila (sexual desire of mid-to-late adolescents or pubescent). It is perfectly natural for both genders to find pubescent teens sexually desirable; especially the precocious ones (a.k.a lolitas). What this wonderful movie points out is that although the their bodies are developed, their minds and characters are still very immature.
@stefanos0forever Meh, I would have figured as much.In my experience, movies based on books are seldom exactly like the books and usually not as good. I should probably read the book sometime.
well in the novel Lolita is 12, great movie all the same and the book is a master piece, the moral discourse is very puzzling and both sides present a good argument
fun fact: the common Japanese word to describe a pedophile is Lolicon derived from Lolita
I am fascinated that so many people are upset to being outraged at older men and young girls engaging in sex. But when it is the other way around there is little to no controversy. I have seen little concern and no outrage over the 15 year old character Michael Berg in the movie The Reader who is seduced by the 37 year old character Hanna Schmitz. There have been few accusations of pedophilia concerning that movie sex relationship compared to the similar screen depiction of Lolita.
It's a double standard. People tend to think that women are soft delicate creatures that are incapable of comitting horrible crimes unless push into doing so. Women also make themselves into the victim. "Oh my husband doesn't love me. I was abused by my father. I'm in love."
But for men they are viewed as the more agressive of the genders so it's much more commonly view that they have more preverted driven thinking. That's also why males aren't viewed as victims if they are taken advantage of.
Yeah I heard somewhere that men and boys rarely ever lie about being raped. Probably has to do with them feeling masculine(sp?), and the way other males will view them. But that's my guess.
That's because we call older women (40+) who chase under age men (16-) "cougars" and elevate them as hero's of feminism ("YOU GO GIRL!!")
We call men who do the same "pedophiles" and send them to jail.
Justice calls that a double standard.
But that's ok, because anyone who understands modern social standards will tell you plainly that men are the evil enemy, especially the white ones, and must be destroyed at all cost.
I think we should probably condemn the older women just like we do men.
@HS22181 Well thats because when we, being men, hook-up with older women its.. well.. deadly lol i go to a cougar bar at least once every two weeks! older women are HOT !cougarlife!
Old men and young girls. The only people who oppose this are old women past their prime. The competition for men is strong and women have a small window of opportunity. If a girl gets her period at 12 she is ready to have babies but our fears and insecurities try to keep her a child. That sounds perverted but it's the truth. Girls don't get their period at 18 or older.
What I'm saying is that we deemed things wrong because we can't deal with the realities of nature. What is a crime? There has to be some wrong doing or intent to harm. Sex between old and young is more of a taboo than a crime. It's like a phobia.
Human is a social creature bound to higher ideas and rules and many of them are becoming part of his nature.. When a girl gets her period does not define when she's ready to have sex - the social rules determine it. And btw: In most cases guys looking for younger girls are loosers, uncapable of finding partners in their own age. It's easy so impress young girls even without having anything offer. But sometimes these guys are just perverse pedophiles. Which one are you?
The social rules? Remember lepper colonies or the witch trials? Social rule is mob rule. I don't want women my age. They are old. I am real young for my age. I would say too young. People think my oldest daughter is my sister. Why is it perverted to be attracted to something that you've always been attracted too. Definition of peadophile is attraction to prepubescent children. This isn't the same thing. Racism and homophobia are social rules some people believe in.
And you noticed that these rules evolved? That thanks to them murderers and rapists are sitting in jail, thanks to them you don't get mugged every single step you take? And the same rules say that it's unethical und irresponsible to have sex with children - and they say that a girl at an age of 14 is still a child. I'd love to see you being a father whose daughter gets banged by some old farts - I wonder if that perspective won't change your wicked opinion.
Now lets explore that. There are societies where 13 is adulthood. If an underage girl has a baby should her baby be taken away from her? She wasn't old enough to have sex so she should keep the baby. There has to be evidence of harm for an act to be a crime. Your way of reason is f*** up. You'd love something bad to happen to me to change my mind. That way of thinking is dangerous. That would teach me a lesson. Wow!!!
Are you stupid? I'm just trying to show you that fucking children is "something bad". That's interesting... so you say it's okay to fuck children but it's "something bad" when I say that I'd love to see how you react when someone bangs your little daughter?
And btw: Those rules differ from society to society. Today's world generally says that a 14 year old girl is still a child and having sex with her as an adult is a crime. And btw those societies you're talking about are evolving as well.
Why is it wrong? I'm not talking about 14 yo girls or boys. Lets not forget about the boys. I'm talking about that grey area of 16-17. They get charged as adults in felony cases. Aren't they children? When did I say it was ok to f*** kids, There has to be proof that a crime was committed. Being old or young is not a crime. Those are taboo and have nothing to do with law.
Since you used a girl's period as a natural indicator for its readiness for sexual activities I assumed that in your opinion any girl getting it is old enough.. well, okay - 16-17... it is indeed a gray zone.
Anyway, what I think that counts is if (in any individual case) the girl is really able to take responsibility - to be really aware of eventual emotions and consequences... unfortunately this varies a lot and cannot be linked to the age...
Emotional security is hard to determine. Young adults are demanded adult responsibilities yet are denied their own bodies. 17 yo have jobs,pay rent,buy cars,pick colleges and careers but are not old enough to control their bodies.
Well, Lolita is a good movie and the subject... let's say I have personal reasons to hate any older guys showing sexual interest in younger girls. It seemed wrong to me from the beginning but I'm sure that after such an experience even you would change your opinion.
And well.... it seems perverted to me that you're gonna have sex with your daughter's friends but hell, I can't do anything about it, can I...
When you're a young guy girls your age are always out of reach. By the time boys realize girls are girls they have moved on to older boys. By high school they are dating college boys. Guys just aren't on the same emotional plane as girls. You have a problem with older men and younger girls. It doesn't matter what age does it? My girlfriend is 29 and I'm 42. We've been together for 7 years.
Before I close out our dialogue I have one question. What are you doing on this video? I'm here because this subject interests me. I know this situation. My daughters friends tell me they can't wait to turn 18 so they can be with me. If they could they'd sleep with me now. I never came on to them. They are only months away from 18 so this dirty old man is going to wait. Is that good with you?
I adored the novel , it was so beautifully written. I have now seen both movies , the 1961 one and the 1997 one. I prefered the original. Peter Sellers was hysterical, he was such a genuis. Shelly winters was great too and Sue Lyon was so pretty.
The book Lolita is commonly regarded as one of the best books ever, but I have never seen the move so I can't say. Also, I think Lolita was 12 in the book.
Idnuf636: yes, Lolita was 12 in the book (she also turns 13, as the story progresses). I'm guessing that using an actress that exact age, while being true to the story, would have been too controversial at the time. Sue Lyon was 15 when the movie was filmed. That first glance at her in the garden, in a bikini, would be riveting to many heterosexual men, although today it is not politically correct to acknowledge that. And, yes, Nobokov's book is very beautifully written.
If you don't want your daughter's to be involved in pedophilia, then don't let them dress like little sluts and teach them manners. If you don't, then she'll end up where little Lolita did in that movie.
DonkeyKong96 6 months ago
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are you serious?! where did this endless ignorance come from?! pedophiles are not attracted to girls who "dress like little sluts". they are attracted to girls (or boys), period. sexual harrasment can appear no matter what one is wearing!
YaeL19LevY 2 months ago
I don't know why I've nver liked older guys when I was underage, I tell them go fuck themselves. They were freaking weirdos and dumb fucks that thought I was a softy. Not this lil bad bitch!
elisemaria1 7 months ago
Damn! thats really grose. It explains why I was my stepfathers fav! LMFOA. At least not like the way this old geeser was with the lil girl.
elisemaria1 7 months ago
make you ears bleed when she talk the mother
bobyard123 7 months ago
Yeah a lot of Kiddie porn watchers on here.
surrealist2k 7 months ago
@surrealist2k You're here!
barneyronnie 7 months ago
WRONG on so many levels. It IS peodophilia regardless if its prepubesant. Noone has the right to prey upon a young person for there own sexual lusts. It messes a young person's life up later on.
surrealist2k 7 months ago
And it's still peodophila in case you haven't realised genius if the child is UNDER age. In fact its statutory rape in most countries. I suppose you're going to say its okay for brother and sisters to have sex hey.
surrealist2k 7 months ago
Bullshit. Doesn't matter if its a older man or an older woman BOTH are wrong because its based purely upon lust. And its predatory. Most girls who have these types of "experimentions" are fucked up later on going on to do porn or can't hold down "normal" relationships with a man her own age.
surrealist2k 7 months ago
the mother used the daughter to get him to stay, and lolita was anything but innocent as she was already having an affair with another old man. I don't think any of the characters is remotely likeable and the audience does not want humbert do get the objet of his desire as this review suggests. The audience wants to see him suffer and it's a relief when he gets what he deserves.
terrywoodinc 7 months ago
Could you Review SILENT RUNNING, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER?
BUDDY6414724297 1 year ago
Possibly the most uneducated description of Lolita yet...
grinthan 1 year ago 3
@Spiruls The brain develops dramatically from 14 to 18 and a sexual predator will choose the 14 yr old over the 18 yr old who looks identical.
1bountifulinc 1 year ago
@1bountifulinc Pedant
grinthan 1 year ago
Sexual attraction towards a much younger person, regardless of gender, is nothing more than a control problem. Even when the perp is a hot 27 yr old female and the victim is a 14-15 yr old boy.
1bountifulinc 1 year ago
in the book Lolita is actually 12 years old so it's NOT perfectly natural to have sex with an older guy
HelinaHoly 1 year ago 5
I strongly disagree with the statement: "It is perfectly natural for both genders to find pubescent teens sexually desirable." I would argue that most adults are strictly attracted to other adults. I also strongly suggest that any adults experiencing attractions to teenagers seek counseling to ensure that these attractions don't lead to immoral activity.
WickedKaddy 1 year ago 2
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WickedKaddy 1 year ago
I saw the movie, its great
PhoenixBird1983 1 year ago
another overrated movie by that twisted hack kubrick. the guy was a loon.
burtonrules123 1 year ago
@burtonrules123 This, from a "man" who reviews Batman playsets, lmao. I really can't insult you any further than that.
Engage777 9 months ago
@Engage777 i would rather be a total nerd then watch stupid shit movies like this. your "insult" is my pleasure. nice try though. at least i have a strong moral center when compared to some sad individuals like yourself. kubrick is a hack and has never made a truly good movie, just shit that passes for trash and sucksups who pride themselves on his so called "art", if you want to call this filth art. that is more insulting.
burtonrules123 9 months ago
@burtonrules123
Totally agree 100%. And its gotten much worse. Thank God there's stiffer laws against this. Someone has to protect our kids.
surrealist2k 7 months ago
The books and movies have made me want to stay a 'Lolita' forever. I'm 20 now and have always had that Loli fantasy and actually lived it. I don't think it's weird at all but everyone has their own taste.
chunxnhunx 1 year ago
Stanley Kubrick is by far one of the greatest film makers ever to grace the wide screen.
rickjames21 1 year ago 2
I loved the novel, and although I am a BIG Kubrick fan I find that his Lolita is a bit boring and prefer the newer Lolita with Jeremy Irons.
209116032 1 year ago
Stanley Kubrick Really became the great film maker that he was during the 70's starting with the film "A Clockwork Orange" (in my opinion).
scorpionkings 1 year ago
LOLICON ロリコン。
pastkun1 1 year ago
At hermionelike: Believe me, 16 is way too young to be involved with a much older man. Take it from someone who was young once and who knows. A big age difference is not the ideal situation for a woman. It may be fine for a man, but I have recently heard from young woman friend who got involved with a man 20 years older when she was 20, and now that she is 40, she could not possibly imagine being stuck with a 60-year old.Stick with men your own age. You will be better off in th e long run.
lbe6040 1 year ago
Lol, i dunno why everyones so offended, pedophilia has been around for thousands of years, this films got nothing on what was accepted in greek, spartan, roman societies
12ozshark 1 year ago
@12ozshark Murder and rape have been around since greek, spartan and roman societies. Does that make murder and rape socially acceptable?
gotch09 1 year ago
@gotch09 Yes.
Engage777 9 months ago
@Engage777 That's not interesting in the slightest.
gotch09 9 months ago
surprised you didn't see the Jeremy Irons version
MikroBadass 1 year ago
i really hate that these perverts hide behind this mask of "ephebophilia" in either case you are still a pervert. It is likely you are far older than the child. Its not okay to "desire" a child. Even if they ARE attractive. There are plenty of attractive women d who arent children. I dont see how you would not want to pursue a relationship with them. Especially since they are more mature and likely more intelligent.
I understand the thrill of a taboo, and even the attraction of youth, but no.
TEAMRANDOMSTUDIOS 1 year ago 4
@TEAMRANDOMSTUDIOS in the Antiquity the paideia relationship was widely accepted. Guess it is the time and the norm that decides. You are speaking with the voice of the norm of our time.
Not that i don't agree with you. But anything can be reasoned in the mind of anyone (hypothetically). Including an, well unacceptable, attraction to minors.
oleok3 3 weeks ago
@TEAMRANDOMSTUDIOS I don't think "ephebophilia" is a mask, I think it's an actual condition just like Pedophilia is. I think pursuing a relationship with a child has to do with the appeal of innocence, and the fact that children are easily persuaded. I could be wrong though, I'm not a pedophile or an ephebophiliac so I can't really say for sure.
thisisthejohnshow 2 weeks ago
Isn't she 12 in the book?
MidDayKourist 1 year ago
@MidDayKourist yes. she is twelve in the book. and not really as sexually charged as she is in any of the movies. she's more of a normal preteen in the book, all knobby knees and naiivity.
CittenCaboodles 1 year ago
I'm a 16 year old female(the legal age of consent,where I live ) and my boyfriend is much much older than me ,we love each other , we get along wonderfully and can talk about anything , but people would still find something "sick" about it . It's sad really .
Hermionealike 1 year ago 6
i've never seen this movie, but the novel is one of my favorites. Gotta love Kubrick though..
MrUlysses9 1 year ago
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The know-nothing U ptight S exual A ssholes will say next that no one knows enough to wank until they're 18! LOL-ita.
DougPatton1 1 year ago
i seen this movie the other day.. and fell in Love with the white chic (lolita).... omg.. this movie had to be a hit back than, cause I'm lovin it... wow.. Someone had to smash.... either the Director or Producer. One of them tap that ass in real life... llol
her0BunDLez 1 year ago
SK is a genius but I have to say the book is only about a million times better than the movie. Even so the movie is still great. The book just happens to be one of the greatest ever written with so much going on terms of ideas and langauge that getting even a fraction of it into a movie is difficult. This is why the movie is nearly four hours long.
Hamhark98 1 year ago
Cinematic masterpiece totally beyond the childish screaming "ewwwwww how gross"
WhatSayestThou 1 year ago 2
I'm amazed more people don't see how hysterical this movie is. Shelly Winters and Peter Sellers and many of the supporting characters (i.e. seller's date @ the dance, the pornographer, etc.) are beyond camp. A cinematic masterpiece!
turbo1964 1 year ago 3
Sure it's wrong, but that's not what the telling of the story from Humbert's view is about.
It's him justifying and indulging his desire in spite of everything that tells him it was wrong, and making it seem reasonable.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
and by the way in the book she is 12 not 14
DamRights 1 year ago
This is just a question about Lolita's soundtrack.
I would like to know which song is being broadcasted by the radio Lolita is listening to, while taking a sun bath in the garden the first time Humberts meets her
Thanks
borinborin 1 year ago
It is absolutely one of Kubricks best and certainly most underrated....I think.
jayjayjigsby2 2 years ago
They describe this story as if it's some knock-off douchebag book, instead of a deep, disturbing, rich masterpiece. "Jailbait teen"? Get real.
RiddleOfxRevenge 2 years ago
This viewers mispronunciation of the name HUMBERT is so glaring it is difficult to credit the rest of his review.
bill2baggett 2 years ago
As far as I can tell, his pronunciation is correct since it is an English version and not Spanish. In the movie itself, they pronounce it the way the reviewer does.
jstrahan2 2 years ago 3
the real lolita from the movie had chestnut brown hair in a bob style hair up to her shoulders
JosefinaChile19 2 years ago
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lolita isn't built like she is 14 so why act upon her like she is
lol
also in canada cant you fuck girls who are 15?
you people are ridiculous
to me the legal age should be right at sexual maturity
so YES 13-14
i think they can make their own decisions by then
danthebard 2 years ago
You make such a sweeping generalization about the sexuality of girls of the age of 13 or 14..You come across as a bit of a pervert to be honest...& everyone can see what you wrote on youtube!! You're a bright spark aren't you?? You'll be on the sex offenders list next, if you aren't already, lol..
Waitingforriki 2 years ago
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only if i fuck a girl underage or have naked pictures of them
i've seen several girls who are like 18 and have no body and look like they could be 12
get real you know a 15 year old can decide if she wants to fuck
danthebard 2 years ago
you think that because your child molester
tarathetarantula 2 years ago
that would be true but i am only 16
danthebard 2 years ago
This got nominated for an Oscar for its script even though there were changes from the original novel so they'll meet the MPAA standards back in the 60s.
clashrogers 2 years ago
@clashrogers The MPAA rating system did not start until 1968 under Jack Valenti. Lolita was made in 1962 and was subject to Motion Picture Production Code popularly known as the Hayes Code at that time..
HS22181 1 year ago
At 2:02 this guy says the audience understand; it should be "the audience understands." Sorry, I can't let it slide. The guy talks very seriously about the movie, but then says some retarded crap like that. He can't fool me.
finly717 2 years ago
Actually, you're wrong here. Collective nouns, such as "family" and "audience" may be declined as singular OR plural. Hence, "the audience understand" is not incorrect, even though it's not in popular usage. You'll have to let it slide.
nauort23 2 years ago 4
I stand corrected. I was totally unaware of that, nor do I remember even learning that particular rule of grammar. However, I admit I am wrong.
finly717 2 years ago 4
I agrees, English should be respected.
detriplea 2 years ago
This begs the questions: Is the sex really worth taking responsibility for such a powerful emotional experience in this young person's life? How can you have a meaningful intimate relationship with someone with a mind that is still very inexperienced and underdeveloped, or aren't you just being selfish? It becomes obvious that Mason's character is ill, because no sound minded and rational adult would go through such lengths to "procure" the affections of someone he really didn't care to know.
KochuJang 2 years ago
@KochuJang
To him, there is meaning. He sees an idealized version of Lolita. To Lolita, she feels that she has a father figure.
Humbert is not sound minded nor rational, but it's his ability to make it seem beautiful and good that is amazing. He is dreaming. Lolita is also bathing in her childishness.
There isn't a clear cut right and wrong in this movie because it also became blurred in the book.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
let's get this straight. There is a very clear distinction between what is Pedophilia(sexual desire for a prepubescent child) and Ephebophila (sexual desire of mid-to-late adolescents or pubescent). It is perfectly natural for both genders to find pubescent teens sexually desirable; especially the precocious ones (a.k.a lolitas). What this wonderful movie points out is that although the their bodies are developed, their minds and characters are still very immature.
KochuJang 2 years ago 46
@KochuJang em, the book is not about that!!! is a metaphore
stefanos0forever 1 year ago
@stefanos0forever Meh, I would have figured as much.In my experience, movies based on books are seldom exactly like the books and usually not as good. I should probably read the book sometime.
KochuJang 1 year ago
@KochuJang
well in the novel Lolita is 12, great movie all the same and the book is a master piece, the moral discourse is very puzzling and both sides present a good argument
fun fact: the common Japanese word to describe a pedophile is Lolicon derived from Lolita
shadow6543 9 months ago
@KochuJang Lolita is supposed to be 12 in the book...
ThePinkFloydEver 9 months ago 3
@KochuJang
Ephebophila isn't ilness, but phedophila is...
She isn't a teenager as 16, 17, 18 years old - this is Ephebophila, under 16 in pedophilia.
We can compare this two...16 it's half - adult mind, adult body young woman.
It's unnormal if 12 years old have a such high level if desire, need of sexuality.
RinWatashi 8 months ago
There is neither right nor wrong but thinking makes it so.
3investigators 2 years ago
symbolic? it's kubrick. what did you expect? He's a semiotic god
violinmerchant 2 years ago
I am fascinated that so many people are upset to being outraged at older men and young girls engaging in sex. But when it is the other way around there is little to no controversy. I have seen little concern and no outrage over the 15 year old character Michael Berg in the movie The Reader who is seduced by the 37 year old character Hanna Schmitz. There have been few accusations of pedophilia concerning that movie sex relationship compared to the similar screen depiction of Lolita.
HS22181 2 years ago 44
your right! very interesting.
I4gotmyMANTRA 2 years ago
It's a double standard. People tend to think that women are soft delicate creatures that are incapable of comitting horrible crimes unless push into doing so. Women also make themselves into the victim. "Oh my husband doesn't love me. I was abused by my father. I'm in love."
But for men they are viewed as the more agressive of the genders so it's much more commonly view that they have more preverted driven thinking. That's also why males aren't viewed as victims if they are taken advantage of.
QueenoftheDookie 2 years ago 3
This is true.
Honestly I would believe a man if he confessed to me that something horrible to him.
underworld026 2 years ago
Yeah I heard somewhere that men and boys rarely ever lie about being raped. Probably has to do with them feeling masculine(sp?), and the way other males will view them. But that's my guess.
QueenoftheDookie 2 years ago
That's because we call older women (40+) who chase under age men (16-) "cougars" and elevate them as hero's of feminism ("YOU GO GIRL!!")
We call men who do the same "pedophiles" and send them to jail.
Justice calls that a double standard.
But that's ok, because anyone who understands modern social standards will tell you plainly that men are the evil enemy, especially the white ones, and must be destroyed at all cost.
I think we should probably condemn the older women just like we do men.
bradsbrain 2 years ago 8
@bradsbrain And when you do "bag the 'cougar' " you like to go brag to your buddies. 1. Sexist. 2. Cad!!!
WhatSayestThou 1 year ago
@bradsbrain you're quite right!!!
willianmh 1 year ago
@HS22181 Well thats because when we, being men, hook-up with older women its.. well.. deadly lol i go to a cougar bar at least once every two weeks! older women are HOT !cougarlife!
DamRights 1 year ago
@HS22181
because a 37 year old woman can't get a 15 year old boy pregnant.
FEARxAIRSOFTxTEAM 1 year ago
@FEARxAIRSOFTxTEAM So pregnancy is the only issue. Great, a vasectomy means you are good to go then.
HS22181 1 year ago
@HS22181
12 years old lolita shouldn't be compared to 15 years old boy or even girl...that's not the same
RinWatashi 8 months ago
i like how you made that reference to streetcar named desire. I know exactley what you mean, but I couldnt have described it as well as you did. :)
I4gotmyMANTRA 2 years ago
great review
juggernaut44 2 years ago
Old men and young girls. The only people who oppose this are old women past their prime. The competition for men is strong and women have a small window of opportunity. If a girl gets her period at 12 she is ready to have babies but our fears and insecurities try to keep her a child. That sounds perverted but it's the truth. Girls don't get their period at 18 or older.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
wow so it is okay than for a fifty year old man to have sex with a 12 year old if she had her period?? =/
eightInfinityonhigh 2 years ago
What I'm saying is that we deemed things wrong because we can't deal with the realities of nature. What is a crime? There has to be some wrong doing or intent to harm. Sex between old and young is more of a taboo than a crime. It's like a phobia.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Human is a social creature bound to higher ideas and rules and many of them are becoming part of his nature.. When a girl gets her period does not define when she's ready to have sex - the social rules determine it. And btw: In most cases guys looking for younger girls are loosers, uncapable of finding partners in their own age. It's easy so impress young girls even without having anything offer. But sometimes these guys are just perverse pedophiles. Which one are you?
fotakatos 2 years ago 2
The social rules? Remember lepper colonies or the witch trials? Social rule is mob rule. I don't want women my age. They are old. I am real young for my age. I would say too young. People think my oldest daughter is my sister. Why is it perverted to be attracted to something that you've always been attracted too. Definition of peadophile is attraction to prepubescent children. This isn't the same thing. Racism and homophobia are social rules some people believe in.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
And you noticed that these rules evolved? That thanks to them murderers and rapists are sitting in jail, thanks to them you don't get mugged every single step you take? And the same rules say that it's unethical und irresponsible to have sex with children - and they say that a girl at an age of 14 is still a child. I'd love to see you being a father whose daughter gets banged by some old farts - I wonder if that perspective won't change your wicked opinion.
fotakatos 2 years ago 2
Now lets explore that. There are societies where 13 is adulthood. If an underage girl has a baby should her baby be taken away from her? She wasn't old enough to have sex so she should keep the baby. There has to be evidence of harm for an act to be a crime. Your way of reason is f*** up. You'd love something bad to happen to me to change my mind. That way of thinking is dangerous. That would teach me a lesson. Wow!!!
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Are you stupid? I'm just trying to show you that fucking children is "something bad". That's interesting... so you say it's okay to fuck children but it's "something bad" when I say that I'd love to see how you react when someone bangs your little daughter?
And btw: Those rules differ from society to society. Today's world generally says that a 14 year old girl is still a child and having sex with her as an adult is a crime. And btw those societies you're talking about are evolving as well.
fotakatos 2 years ago
Why is it wrong? I'm not talking about 14 yo girls or boys. Lets not forget about the boys. I'm talking about that grey area of 16-17. They get charged as adults in felony cases. Aren't they children? When did I say it was ok to f*** kids, There has to be proof that a crime was committed. Being old or young is not a crime. Those are taboo and have nothing to do with law.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Since you used a girl's period as a natural indicator for its readiness for sexual activities I assumed that in your opinion any girl getting it is old enough.. well, okay - 16-17... it is indeed a gray zone.
Anyway, what I think that counts is if (in any individual case) the girl is really able to take responsibility - to be really aware of eventual emotions and consequences... unfortunately this varies a lot and cannot be linked to the age...
Well, I guess you're not THAT sick after all. ;)
fotakatos 2 years ago
Emotional security is hard to determine. Young adults are demanded adult responsibilities yet are denied their own bodies. 17 yo have jobs,pay rent,buy cars,pick colleges and careers but are not old enough to control their bodies.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Well, Lolita is a good movie and the subject... let's say I have personal reasons to hate any older guys showing sexual interest in younger girls. It seemed wrong to me from the beginning but I'm sure that after such an experience even you would change your opinion.
And well.... it seems perverted to me that you're gonna have sex with your daughter's friends but hell, I can't do anything about it, can I...
fotakatos 2 years ago
When you're a young guy girls your age are always out of reach. By the time boys realize girls are girls they have moved on to older boys. By high school they are dating college boys. Guys just aren't on the same emotional plane as girls. You have a problem with older men and younger girls. It doesn't matter what age does it? My girlfriend is 29 and I'm 42. We've been together for 7 years.
tamapalagi 2 years ago
Before I close out our dialogue I have one question. What are you doing on this video? I'm here because this subject interests me. I know this situation. My daughters friends tell me they can't wait to turn 18 so they can be with me. If they could they'd sleep with me now. I never came on to them. They are only months away from 18 so this dirty old man is going to wait. Is that good with you?
tamapalagi 2 years ago
I adored the novel , it was so beautifully written. I have now seen both movies , the 1961 one and the 1997 one. I prefered the original. Peter Sellers was hysterical, he was such a genuis. Shelly winters was great too and Sue Lyon was so pretty.
kelsmart 2 years ago 2
ephebophilia actually, not pedophilia
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humanumgenus 3 years ago
Lolita is a great book
themantis98 3 years ago 6
It has such a sad ending. T.T But yes, a masterpiece. And it gave us that delightful Hentai phrase, "Lolicon" ^_-
capnjonas 3 years ago
God Bless Vladimir Nabokov
themantis98 3 years ago
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tu eres tonto chato,..eres hompgay,....y a callar,...comprate una reflex.(supnormal)
mankor 3 years ago
I'd tap that. Who wouldnt?
GiefGoldPlx 3 years ago 2
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Is this the first non-shitty movie you review?
moderjoker 3 years ago
The book Lolita is commonly regarded as one of the best books ever, but I have never seen the move so I can't say. Also, I think Lolita was 12 in the book.
Idnuf636 3 years ago 5
Idnuf636: yes, Lolita was 12 in the book (she also turns 13, as the story progresses). I'm guessing that using an actress that exact age, while being true to the story, would have been too controversial at the time. Sue Lyon was 15 when the movie was filmed. That first glance at her in the garden, in a bikini, would be riveting to many heterosexual men, although today it is not politically correct to acknowledge that. And, yes, Nobokov's book is very beautifully written.
oceanstreat 3 years ago
nice I love this movie, and Stanely Kubrick is awesome.
sailorsims 3 years ago
best old movies i think come from the 80s but this movie sounds pretty good it somewhat reminds me of :American beauty "
RamenxXxNoodles 3 years ago
Except in American Beauty Kevin Spacey backed off when the girl was scared. She was seducing him (very wrong) and he pulled back (very right).
tamapalagi 2 years ago
He didn't want to be the first guy she slept with that's why
CosmicUndeadElf 2 years ago 7
Don't know about the movie, but the book is great.
ilkovsky 3 years ago
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It actually was a stage play at one point...believe it or not one of our producers high schools nearly did the stage play.
ClutchProd 3 years ago
I'm scared now the FBI is going to be knocking on my door when they see I'm watching a video with "lolita" in it.
Link4587452 3 years ago 8
@Link4587452 lol "kiddy-porn"?
MikroBadass 1 year ago
NVM, it sort of works now, But it keeps pausing despite the fact that th video is loaded.
:(
I guess I'll settle for Normal quality
HylianPirate278 3 years ago
HD not working (the video won't play)
:(
HylianPirate278 3 years ago
hmmm never heard of that movie :O and know i know :) "and knowing is half the battle"
FilmMadness 3 years ago
Now we all know where anime's lolicon came from. I think the girl was even younger in the book (12 years old or something).
liveFinalFantasy 3 years ago 3
The origin of lolis. Yay! :D
cosmosofinfinity 3 years ago
im 14!!! wait..... never mind(an=int goin out w/a 50,60 or 70 year old!)
fruitypebbles904 3 years ago
great review ag! i love the movie messenger! u are so creative and are my hero(except videogames instead of movies)
ZacharyDuhamel 3 years ago
cool review AG
outatime21 3 years ago
tits
DiabloDave363 3 years ago
never actually seen this film sounds ok. OOO and i hope you will check out my first movie review coming up this week. =)
xxxriddick 3 years ago
Stanley Kubrick is awesome!!
ALEXtheEntertainer 3 years ago 2
Nice review!
kevinxmamama 3 years ago 3