Thats so cool!! I have just watched your vid and think its excellent!! It has really helped me have a better understanding, so thanks for sharing :) I have added a video response called 'TAMA Jam' of me playing a variation of swing beat at the recent London Drum Show. Hope you like it ;) My name is Josiah and I am 10 yrs old, self taught from the age of 3!! Did you play from a young age??
@scollett67 Hey Josiah! Watched your video a couple times. Good stuff, dude! :) You got good hands, there! Keep it up. I actually started late. I started playing when I was 17. But spent as much spare time as a could practicing and playing the drums, especially during the first four years. I'd practice sometimes 4 or 5 hours at a time! I was a bit of a nut back then :) Keep in touch and hit me up if you have any questions! You can always contact me through my website. Peace out!
Would you say that most modern hip hop has strayed away a bit from it's roots in jazz in that most rhythms are not played with the I "swing" feel as you are playing? Mosthip hop in the 80's and early 90's was played the way you are, but I feel like today it is mostly played with a straight feel rather than a swing feel, do you agree?
What a pleasure to meet someone who knows what hip-hop is. Forget all this nonsense about earning money and killing people. . . real hip-hop is a celebration. And for a celebration, you gotta be able to dance to a swung groove!
I remember being told at college that you cant teach feel. Wish I could show them this video now! Just puts it in a nutshell with the 'keeping the swing in your head' bit!
great video man .... great feel ... have you seen marcus baylor`s video on how the swing pattern has influenced his straight 8th / hip hop playing ...its very similar to your thing here
wow . he's a ventroquist too, he speaks, his lips dont move. makes me laugh how these kids are going for it, blastin the hell out of their drum kits and this guy in a few seconds with barely a move, puts them in their place
Would you say that most modern hip hop has strayed away a bit from it's roots in jazz in that most rhythms are not played with the I "swing" feel as you are playing? Mosthip hop in the 80's and early 90's was played the way you are, but I feel like today it is mostly played with a straight feel rather than a swing feel, do you agree?
@ThePrutrude Wow. Man, it would take me all day to answer that question, but yea. I agree with you. Especially that first point of yours. But although rap in general since the 80s as rocked both a triplet swing AND and 16th feel, like Africa Bambaata, Sugarhill Gang, Kurtis Blow, etc, I think 'Hip Hop' as a feel was pretty much defined by that jazz triplet. Ask ANY drummer (than can) to play a hip hop groove for you - and they'll just instinctively put a swing on it.
nice video Mr. Brown!!! this sums up what i been planning to teach my first student. i started her on straight 8th note rock beats but i could tell i would need to teach her how to shuffle/swing before she could understand the feel of a bouncy hip hop beat. you really broke down the relation of the two. well done, that was really interesting
rob first ur a grate drumer keep it up! and ur vids are rly good i love them btw.... what kind of drum set and ride because it sounds rly good keep up the good work rob ur the man!!
rob first ur a grate drumer keep it up! and ur vid are rly good i love them btw.... what kind of drum set and ride because it sounds rly good keep up the good work rob ur the man!!
Actually the music itself was derived from funk/disco/soul in the late 70s and early 80s, but that jazz swing was extremely evident in the 90s. This sounds like ?uestlove's style, ironically he's from Philadelphia.
you good man...not only as a drummer!!!...but as an instructor too!!!....and goo dude too sharing all your knowledge here on you tube... THANKS A MILLION MAN!!!
yeah buddy. haha. yes, thanks man, this is what ive been discovering lately. i really started getting into hip hop all year, and now im really diggin jazz all of a sudden for some reason. this helped it all make sense. time to hit the practice room.
Great video, no ridiculous...you-tube B.S., just a whole lot of down to Earth delivery, and fantastic explanation. I like the swing-->hip-hop transition. Learning to swing is key when developing that meaty feel necessary to get people moving.
Can you explain to me where the one is on that bebop beat you were playing at the very beginning? Are you hitting the 2 and 4 with the hi-hat? that's what it seems like but this clavinova in a practice room here at school has it opposite on the drum function it has...says it would be either hitting on the 1 and 3 or just the 1, depending on the subdivision I guess. Would be nice to figure this out finally haha. Thanks!
What an incredibly articulate explaination. The way Rob transitions to the the Philly Bounce and the way he drops to the straight 8th hip hop from the swing at 2:50 is a thing few can demonstrate effectively. "Keep the swing going in your head." One of THE best lessons I've seen on YouTube. Exceptional playing and instruction, Rob. Thank you.
Hey man. I'm a rock guitar player and I found this video to be hugely inspiring! Awesome work on explaing this and your playing is SO tight it makes me want to study the drums.
oh yea..you talked about your snare.... man you gotta check out a ddrum dios 13x7 bubinga some time....... they rock man!! bubinga anything kills....like a marching drum with stank on it... :)
erm sorry man, didnt mean to compare or nothing, its just the way the video was produced reminded me of Steve's. But you guys are both extraordinary drummers in each own right
Junkay - Thanks for the comment, bro. Steve Jordan?! Wow. But about the snare...thats a 12x7 Black Panther, which is the perfect size for HipHop, Drum n' Bass and Urban Gospel. It's tuned quite high (but not high enough to choke it) and I do generally play rimshot unless the situation calls for a lower volume.
@penski77 I'm playing a Black Panther too, but having trouble with its strong ringing. What drumhead are you using? The original Remo? I changed to an Evans Edge Control with a sound control ring, what changed the sound to a shord muffled sound even when tuned high. Do you have any suggestions? Nice groovy felling you have by the way!
@penski77 I'm playing a Black Panther too, but having trouble with its strong ringing. What drumhead are you using? The original Remo? I changed to an Evans Edge Control with a sound control ring, what changed the sound to a short muffled sound even when tuned high. Do you have any suggestions? Nice groovy felling you have by the way!
He actually covered House and Dubstep beat patterns in this as well as Hip-Hop.
Xaltus 1 day ago
Cheers Penski....much appreciated fella...enjoyed your relaxed style of teaching !
rael1999 4 days ago
Section by The Roots seems to have benefited from this foundation. That Philly Bounce is so evident.
TheTallMan35 1 week ago
Thats so cool!! I have just watched your vid and think its excellent!! It has really helped me have a better understanding, so thanks for sharing :) I have added a video response called 'TAMA Jam' of me playing a variation of swing beat at the recent London Drum Show. Hope you like it ;) My name is Josiah and I am 10 yrs old, self taught from the age of 3!! Did you play from a young age??
scollett67 3 weeks ago
@scollett67 Hey Josiah! Watched your video a couple times. Good stuff, dude! :) You got good hands, there! Keep it up. I actually started late. I started playing when I was 17. But spent as much spare time as a could practicing and playing the drums, especially during the first four years. I'd practice sometimes 4 or 5 hours at a time! I was a bit of a nut back then :) Keep in touch and hit me up if you have any questions! You can always contact me through my website. Peace out!
penski77 3 weeks ago
holy crap what is that snare you are playing on. i would pay a lot of money for that
base8a11player861 1 month ago
@base8a11player861 That's a 12"x7" Mapex Black Panther, man. Schmokin'.
penski77 2 weeks ago
dope...
ashmore11 1 month ago
Coolest.Guy.Out
HighDrummer1 1 month ago
how do you make your snare sound like that?
willyfulable 1 month ago
@willyfulable Hey man. 2 ply head. Tune it right up (without choking it). Slap one MoonGel on that sucka. Boom.
penski77 2 weeks ago
great.
SanK4man 1 month ago
You remind me of Steve Jordan sound and feel!!! Nice work!!!
Slaty123 2 months ago 2
the philly bounce had me grooving to "superstition" in my head. very cool
jayweh 2 months ago
GREAT explanation of something often misunderstood. Thanks!!
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Would you say that most modern hip hop has strayed away a bit from it's roots in jazz in that most rhythms are not played with the I "swing" feel as you are playing? Mosthip hop in the 80's and early 90's was played the way you are, but I feel like today it is mostly played with a straight feel rather than a swing feel, do you agree?
headkilla125 3 months ago
What a pleasure to meet someone who knows what hip-hop is. Forget all this nonsense about earning money and killing people. . . real hip-hop is a celebration. And for a celebration, you gotta be able to dance to a swung groove!
JonasBridgous 3 months ago
nice stuff man! really nice
PATAFLAFA 3 months ago
Just beautiful :-)
OnlineSessionDrummer 3 months ago
I remember being told at college that you cant teach feel. Wish I could show them this video now! Just puts it in a nutshell with the 'keeping the swing in your head' bit!
djshelleymack 4 months ago
Amazing work ! Stuff like this can really improve me as a drummer! Thanks!
HighDrummer1 4 months ago
Young drummers. This is how you approach the kit.
spacemodulated 4 months ago 2
great video man .... great feel ... have you seen marcus baylor`s video on how the swing pattern has influenced his straight 8th / hip hop playing ...its very similar to your thing here
sweetfly66 5 months ago
Nice stuff...sounds great!
mpiet55 5 months ago
Sweet. Lotsa cats on the Tube play amazing stuff but can’t - - or won’t- - break it all the way down s-l-o-w-a-n-d-n-i-c-e-a-n-d-e-z. Thanks, bro’!
MrTimdrums 5 months ago
WOW WHAT is that Snare?!?! And those wood rims!!! ?
sptimmeh 5 months ago
thank you for the knowledge I joined your mailing list because of this video and subbed
cordovastyle3 5 months ago
wow . he's a ventroquist too, he speaks, his lips dont move. makes me laugh how these kids are going for it, blastin the hell out of their drum kits and this guy in a few seconds with barely a move, puts them in their place
bryngOneOn 6 months ago
philly bounce is so dope
camster890 6 months ago
thanks man helped me a lot in producing :)
FreestyleLilWayne 6 months ago
DOPE!!!
TheMcRemedi 6 months ago
What Evans snare head is he using?
atedj 9 months ago
Would you say that most modern hip hop has strayed away a bit from it's roots in jazz in that most rhythms are not played with the I "swing" feel as you are playing? Mosthip hop in the 80's and early 90's was played the way you are, but I feel like today it is mostly played with a straight feel rather than a swing feel, do you agree?
ThePrutrude 10 months ago 5
@ThePrutrude Wow. Man, it would take me all day to answer that question, but yea. I agree with you. Especially that first point of yours. But although rap in general since the 80s as rocked both a triplet swing AND and 16th feel, like Africa Bambaata, Sugarhill Gang, Kurtis Blow, etc, I think 'Hip Hop' as a feel was pretty much defined by that jazz triplet. Ask ANY drummer (than can) to play a hip hop groove for you - and they'll just instinctively put a swing on it.
penski77 10 months ago
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MrFaze5 5 months ago
I agree in a way, but don't get the impression it's no out there, there is great hip hop you gotta find it.
MrFaze5 5 months ago
what do u mean by kick in 1 and 3? I'm trying to understand what hip hop rythym is
byson11 10 months ago
nice video Mr. Brown!!! this sums up what i been planning to teach my first student. i started her on straight 8th note rock beats but i could tell i would need to teach her how to shuffle/swing before she could understand the feel of a bouncy hip hop beat. you really broke down the relation of the two. well done, that was really interesting
GregoryGraveyard 11 months ago
i love the philly bounce! great playing man
somersaultjuggernaut 1 year ago
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YOU FORGET TO TELL YOUR YOUTUBE STUDENTS THAT YOUR UPBEAT
ON THE HATS IS ACCENTED IN THE 8th NOTE FUNK GROOVE.
ALL THE HI-HAT (ands) ARE ACCENTED. (louder than the Hi-hat downbeats)
THE BASS DRUM IS ALL DOWN BEATS......THE HI-HAT ACCENTS ARE ALL
UPBEATS......
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YOU FORGET TO TELL YOUR YOUTUBE STUDENTS THAT YOUR UPBEAT
ON THE HATS IS ACCENTED IN THE 8th NOTE FUNK GROOVE.
ALL THE HI-HAT (ands) ARE ACCENTED. (louder than the Hi-hat downbeats)
THATS WHAT CREATES THE FUNK GROVE
THE BASS DRUM IS ALL DOWN BEATS......THE HI-HAT ACCENTS ARE ALL
UPBEATS......
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tom0445 1 year ago
Don't know how I didn't find these before. Outstanding, good sir! Hope to see more!
dtigers27 1 year ago
dude thanks for putting up these videos they are really helpful
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rob first ur a grate drumer keep it up! and ur vids are rly good i love them btw.... what kind of drum set and ride because it sounds rly good keep up the good work rob ur the man!!
mydrums4life 1 year ago
rob first ur a grate drumer keep it up! and ur vid are rly good i love them btw.... what kind of drum set and ride because it sounds rly good keep up the good work rob ur the man!!
mydrums4life 1 year ago
you gotta try playing flex, by victor wooten
SamStats722 1 year ago
reminds me a lot of what jeff porcaro used to do ... like on the Toto song Pamela for example .... almost an " i wish " stevie wonder sort of groove
sweetfly66 1 year ago
dude you are a master...i thank you for this insanely clear instruction...you better be either playing or teaching professionally:)
toolkills 1 year ago
Listen to Cissy Strut by the Meters. Pure hiphop. Too bad nowdays hiphop has lost that swing because you can add it by a switch in fruity loops
suihkubad 1 year ago
Actually the music itself was derived from funk/disco/soul in the late 70s and early 80s, but that jazz swing was extremely evident in the 90s. This sounds like ?uestlove's style, ironically he's from Philadelphia.
TheTallMan35 1 year ago
Thanks it's tasteful , More video plz :)))
bilgekhan 1 year ago
RAD!!!
ElPinitch 1 year ago
Wow! You are the man! I could understand and retain everything you said, and you used history to help that's my type of learning! You Go Boy! Ciao!
O.N.E.
LuvLuv
regilanda 1 year ago
you good man...not only as a drummer!!!...but as an instructor too!!!....and goo dude too sharing all your knowledge here on you tube... THANKS A MILLION MAN!!!
teamsleepnine 1 year ago 8
@teamsleepnine You're very welcome, man. Pace! :)
penski77 1 year ago 4
yeah buddy. haha. yes, thanks man, this is what ive been discovering lately. i really started getting into hip hop all year, and now im really diggin jazz all of a sudden for some reason. this helped it all make sense. time to hit the practice room.
plakelakeutube 1 year ago
damn 0:56 was nasty to the end. i could groove to shit like this unlike other people who just bang the drums instead of playing them.
DualMuNcho 1 year ago
The transition was nice. You got it cat daddy. Solid.
reno419rockstar 1 year ago
Damn that sounds nice
ThoughtProcess1 1 year ago
never thought of it like that. Taking that to the kit for sure.
warboy3209 1 year ago
brother, elegance in simplicity, loving how you break it down, I'm chillin back here grooving to the beat on my bass.
Heffsta02 1 year ago
2 stars
cptmuska 1 year ago
Where is your website? I gotta come check one of your clinics!
Khaddar 1 year ago
Great video, no ridiculous...you-tube B.S., just a whole lot of down to Earth delivery, and fantastic explanation. I like the swing-->hip-hop transition. Learning to swing is key when developing that meaty feel necessary to get people moving.
Beauxdeauxfinglok 1 year ago
MUY BUENO ME SIRVIO MUCHO
fredodelatorr 1 year ago
sweet video. that was really interesting
crayyawn 1 year ago
Can you explain to me where the one is on that bebop beat you were playing at the very beginning? Are you hitting the 2 and 4 with the hi-hat? that's what it seems like but this clavinova in a practice room here at school has it opposite on the drum function it has...says it would be either hitting on the 1 and 3 or just the 1, depending on the subdivision I guess. Would be nice to figure this out finally haha. Thanks!
Wally773MTG 1 year ago
it's great to see people going from jazz to any style of music so naturally.
oublica 2 years ago
great way to explain hip-hop feels,, Rob ur the man !
Masterfilm15 2 years ago 3
man straight digginn... fillybounce best describes... who dont know that? yo bro, keep goin... share natural its nature.
985099 2 years ago 2
what skin you got on that snare drum
mjflan1990 2 years ago 2
Perfect explanation. I love the wood hoops by the way.
Connerthedrummer 2 years ago 3
You play beautifully.
thejimmyzshow 2 years ago 14
Awesome...very nicely explained. Great playing too man.
Hydrefyricon 2 years ago 3
dam that was tight! :D can really hear that bounce!! oh and beautiful wood rims, i wanted to hear the sound :(
SuperChuck3 2 years ago 2
very nice vinteo
11scocco 2 years ago
5 stars
bubnjarovski 2 years ago
Simple but groovy, mature, tasteful, understated...
EXCELLENT
skaramunga 2 years ago 15
Thanks, man :)
penski77 2 years ago
This is one of the very best drum video's I have ever seen. You explain and play it beautifully.
ziggyselbin 2 years ago
nice pocket . . there's nothing better than a stripped down beat
LaVerdadEntera 2 years ago
This is just awesome. I learned more today. Thanks!
downjones72 2 years ago
wow never even thought about it that way
aero20smith 2 years ago
I love your snare :) great video by the way!
mikeymouse01 2 years ago
Nice easy explanation. Nicely done!
CelticSong 2 years ago
dude you're tight, please teach me.
sh4ne 2 years ago
this is really interesting, you're obviously very well experienced
letskillyoko 2 years ago 3
perfect explanation. lovin' the maturity in the groove by not letting yourself deviate from the pattern. awesome!
09DrummerGirl 2 years ago 2
mmm... i love these jass things.
imrussian100 2 years ago
its spelt "jazz" my friend
blackl1steddrums 2 years ago
no no is spelt "jass".. i gots jass in my ass
mission100uk 2 years ago
very nice
tbctmtb420420 2 years ago
it was a joy to hear this and learn this! so much thanks!
drummannprudoctions 2 years ago 2
philly bounce kinda makes sense kinda sounds like questlove
k4rltee 2 years ago
What an incredibly articulate explaination. The way Rob transitions to the the Philly Bounce and the way he drops to the straight 8th hip hop from the swing at 2:50 is a thing few can demonstrate effectively. "Keep the swing going in your head." One of THE best lessons I've seen on YouTube. Exceptional playing and instruction, Rob. Thank you.
BillyAtwell 2 years ago 26
@BillyAtwell
I agree 100% -- Thanks much Rob!
Th3Bottom 1 year ago
@BillyAtwell, You said everything i was about to say but better XD
HalfGermanBeats93 5 months ago
Hey man. I'm a rock guitar player and I found this video to be hugely inspiring! Awesome work on explaing this and your playing is SO tight it makes me want to study the drums.
Many thanks.
Chris
lauraeeee 2 years ago
oh yea..you talked about your snare.... man you gotta check out a ddrum dios 13x7 bubinga some time....... they rock man!! bubinga anything kills....like a marching drum with stank on it... :)
uhoh38125 2 years ago
dang ! got any money in hoops?!?! haha...awsome man! Thanks for posting.... you got a good groove man
uhoh38125 2 years ago
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boring
McElioth 2 years ago
the roots is a grand example... =) your great!
jimmyminter23 2 years ago
Thanks man
It gives you a different approach to hip hop
samweldrummer 2 years ago
Ohhh yeah bro, u got da flava!! I'm from Brasil and enchanted! Thnx 4 share it!
JeffersonMerida 2 years ago
Hey man you sweet. Nice groove
Quezo7129 2 years ago
YES ! Steve Jordan's sound dude ;)
Very well... like your jazz cymbal touch and feel.
Jazz and groove together for one music.
dev3553 2 years ago
erm sorry man, didnt mean to compare or nothing, its just the way the video was produced reminded me of Steve's. But you guys are both extraordinary drummers in each own right
Junkay 2 years ago
you remind me of Steve Jordan..you got a really nice snare sound there, do you do rim shots on it for this video?
Junkay 2 years ago 2
Junkay - Thanks for the comment, bro. Steve Jordan?! Wow. But about the snare...thats a 12x7 Black Panther, which is the perfect size for HipHop, Drum n' Bass and Urban Gospel. It's tuned quite high (but not high enough to choke it) and I do generally play rimshot unless the situation calls for a lower volume.
penski77 2 years ago
@penski77 I'm playing a Black Panther too, but having trouble with its strong ringing. What drumhead are you using? The original Remo? I changed to an Evans Edge Control with a sound control ring, what changed the sound to a shord muffled sound even when tuned high. Do you have any suggestions? Nice groovy felling you have by the way!
Brugnoni 1 year ago
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@penski77 I'm playing a Black Panther too, but having trouble with its strong ringing. What drumhead are you using? The original Remo? I changed to an Evans Edge Control with a sound control ring, what changed the sound to a short muffled sound even when tuned high. Do you have any suggestions? Nice groovy felling you have by the way!
Brugnoni 1 year ago
Man! Thank you! You save my day!
SUBJOHNY 2 years ago
great.. good way to look at it
mission100uk 2 years ago
Great video, great playing, great set! Thank you for this
Aeader 2 years ago
what snare are you using there....?
DjZen7 2 years ago
sweet playing and sweet kit especially those hoops very nice
PS9rugby 2 years ago
Dope man!
PullerPranke 2 years ago
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smooth bounce nigga
iLoveOlivaMunn 2 years ago
GREAT
westernrebel89 2 years ago
cool bounce at 3.20, man your groove is nice. and the set sounds swell
lambloodle 2 years ago
thanks alot for this vid =] it has actually helped me alot with playing hip-hop beats. nice drum set aswell dude =]
LewisTheDrummer1992 3 years ago
Awesome set man. this was a tight vid man
lifestylesandkyjelly 3 years ago
awesome video, dude. your kit sounds nice too.
aabighead 3 years ago
kit sounds great man nice work
RJamsWithBaltimore 3 years ago
SUCH a nice set!
metalfan987 3 years ago
Nice video Rob!
skaramunga 3 years ago
is he at all related to rich brown?
Nosies199 3 years ago
cool> but i need to know how to swing
Hoyenwey 3 years ago