Alitalia Hard Landing MD-11

[bombardierdude15]

he was way off the centerline

[maplemanz]

Gives you an idea just how strong landing gear really are!!!!!!!!!!

[bozo86]

the video is old but still unbeaten, kai tak will always be living in our hearts!

[genysys20]

MD-11 + Kai Tak + Crosswind = Volatile

[pokematt99]

that looks like my landing with a pmdg md-11 XD

[wtficantgetausername]

i honestly think they shouldve gone around since he couldve damaged the plane that way but at least it was decent enough to survive

[ThisTheAviator]

EEEEH E CHE PILOTI DI MERDA CHE HA L'ALITALIA FANNO DAVVERO CAGARE......vorrei vedere voi a portare un bestone del genere con quelle raffiche di vento che ci stanno al kai tak,no sul serio fatelo voi visto che siete tanto bravi a pilotare

[Personbehindascreen]

Wouldn't be surprised if he knocked out a few runway lights.

[ChelseaAllTheWay13]

Port MLG replacement ? Think of the overtime airmechs. Should have done missed approach.

[peacewavenow]

Not an unusually bumpy landing for this difficult approach....Any landing you could walk away from and not damage the plane was a good one at Kai Tak......(that's why the airport was closed in 1998).

[pilotnicco]

MAMA-MIA!!!!

[MrDBater]

Stop the vid at 0:08 and you can see the windsock coming into view on the right side. Crosswind is at about 5-10kts. Windsock gets picked by the dissipating wake of the MD11.

So the problem wasn't the crosswind, but an overshoot of the centerline, which happened regularly; the approach did not leave much room for error.

So all in all, this should have been a clear go around. Especially when you realize that you will touch down significantly off centerline.

[MrNomorelights]

This is most certainly a very poor landing. The plane was not on a stable approach and a go around should have been executed long before he attempted to correct his drift with left rudder application. How can anyone consider this a professional landing, even with heavy crosswinds this is a massive display of poor airmanship.

[NextLvlProductions]

The view of MD-11 from the cockpit of 747must have been awesome and scary at the same time..

[aircraftfreak737]

That's 747 that was facing the md11 was probably laughing or thinking holy crap!!!

[InsaneMetalSoldier]

Oh My freaking god!

[KLMMD11B747]

if this was a klm plane the pilot would be fired.

[mxp26]

@KLMMD11B747

you are just an ignorant..sorry!!!

[mxp26]

@KLMMD11B747 you dont understand ANYTHING!!!

[Deltapilot96]

@KLMMD11B747 Don't really think so... It was a very professional landing

[kade6]

correct inputs for landing with a crosswind are ailerons into the wind, opposite rudder. pilot had wrong inputs on approach and touchdown (watch the rudder). at least they made it down in one piece...

[FloridianAirsofters]

Two things, one, a good landing is the one you walk a from, two, this must be the famous piano noooooooooooooooooooo landing

[FLIGHTCOMPANY]

I vote for keeping Kai Tak Alive!

[thejack544]

thts what happened to me in etihad airways a320/200

[airbus94]

@thejack544 You serious, when and what airport? Was it strong winds?

[thejack544]

abu dhabi int airport pilot went too fast there were no winds when the plane touched down it went back into the air and landed again and for wen it was before yesterday thanks for the question :P

[airbus94]

@thejack544 Wow I would think etihads pilots would be professional and execute a go around? Anyways thanks for the info

[raphy1123]

@airbus94 lol the pilot bumped the landing... it happens and will happen again there is no need of a go around at all... Would be stupid to burn unnecessary excess of fuel at environment and companies cost...

[aavgoustis]

@airbus94 no strong winds man... you can see the tyre smoke after landing .. its not moving much..

[Pvjinflight]

@aavgoustis Yeah, MD-11 is known for being pretty unstable on approach when compared to most other planes because of its different design.

[worlock1422]

Looked Pretty good for the old Kai Tak airport lol

[danoodle72fly]

I think they should have performed a go-around as soon as they were losing the centerline. But it's easy to say so.... sitting on a chair in front of a PC.

[boeing777300ER]

that runway is notoriously difficult to line up with, throw a crosswind in there it makes it even more difficult. He really smacked it on the pavement but at least he kept it under control.

[voderick]

hard?

you can add, also outside the landing strip......

[attopaca]

They did a perfect landing with cross wind but I wouldnìt be the pilot of the front 747. Niente male, bravi ragazzi. W AZ

[teodo787]

ma solo noi abbiamo piloti di merda???!!!

[RobertsDigital]

teodo787 Nope that landing is actually perfect for a crosswind landing and in Hong Kong too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that...

A bad landing is the one you dont work out on your feet from the plane...

[danoodle72fly]

@teodo787 Eh si....abbiamo proprio piloti di merda!!! L'Alitalia ha molti piloti che provengono dalle Frecce Tricolori che sono notoriamente piloti di merda. I piloti della Fed-EX con lo stesso tipo di aeroplano, stessa intensità di vento ma su una pista molto più facile....ci hanno rimesso le penne!! E loro che piloti sono allora???

[teodo787]

di merda,

poi anche qui rischiavano la vita...

[ThisTheAviator]

@teodo787 per dire questo tu hai alle spalle tantissime ore di volo a bordo di bestioni simili giusto?

E fai sempre atterraggi perfetti anche con raffiche di 20 nodi no?

[caonoak]

i seen so many video,s of hong kong and i see the planes are always landing from this side and having hard time linning up with the runway , anyone knows why they did,t use the other side of the runway , i mean why do they have to land from this side if its challenging why not land from the other side ?

[ryanair737400]

it is because of the crosswinds and the tail winds most of the times planes would have it hard coming in with the tails winds and were in a bit if trouble if they had a late go around

[blueb0g]

wind direction, and it's also pretty challenging the other side.

[Giovani22]

He almost landed on the grass

[kso747]

that landing is acceptable. just because both tires dont touch down simultaneously does not make it a bad landing.

[airbus94]

Yes I know its a pretty skilled landing but also hard touchdown.

[cubes887]

@airbus94 if the left or right main gear collapsed it would be goodnight charlie. 10% of fuel on board for alternate landing means if it did collapse or the tyres popped on either side it would roll over and big fire!!=death and mayhem

[type45tomcat21]

@cubes887 That's what had happened on a China Airline MD-11 at Hong Kong 1998, when he was trying to land under crosswind and wind-sheer

[dc1030guy]

You're kidding right? The right and center gear are off the runway. They almost strike wingtips.  And I'm sure the gear and tires needed replacing after this.

If this is your idea of a good landing, please remind me to never fly with you.

[frauspi]

@kso747 It was a firm landing, they happen, no harm done, but to be that far off the centerline is totally unsat.

[RobertsDigital]

Thats actually called a perfect landing not a bad landing because it takes a lot of skill to land a big bird in Hong Kong intl.

Its fine.

[TheRedge12]

The pilots haven't made a bad job.

look at the vid!!!!

there was fast crosswind...

when you can do it better thand DO IT!!

[donhenri]

I don't think the pilot did a bad job, the camera angle tricks you he was aligned the whole time fighting the crosswind and the reason why he didnt go around its because at the last second a gust of wind blew him off course

[AUBLUEOAR]

this approach is notoriously difficult but this plane was feet away from a serious disaster. the captain should have known this approach was bad and executed a go around. And you are wrong, just because you walk away from a landing doesn't make it a good one. Damaging an aircraft and putting passangers in a dangerous situation when it can be prevented by simply going around and reshooting the approach is not good. Sorry, you're wrong, Rageoff77.

[chatsalot94]

exactly!!! i've watched this video 6 times and every time i watch it makes me more and more angry!! shitty pilots!!!

[imanofficerable]

@AUBLUEOAR I think the first officer had the airplane upon short final, as you can see in the video at the right hand bar.

I don't speak Italian but seemingly the captain exclaimed: No!' just before he idled the throttle, which usually is done by the pilot in command at the the final approach.

From the brief look i got at the face of the co-pilot, he knew he f*cked up.

[Renatodonadio]

@imanofficerable He said "Piano" that means "gently". However watching the other video I think the co-pilot was on the first hours of patent because he mistook the words "landing gear" in the checklist and the officer pointed at the handle that was already down, and they still had the autopilot engaged in final

[rageoff77]

Any landing you walk away from is a good landing

[airbus94]

Hahaha ture that.

[763pilot]

Yes, thank you, thank you

[Airjoker94]

Any KLM pilot would agree =)

[RobertsDigital]

rageoff77 well said!!

Hahaha

[BusterBunker]

The pilot in the 747 is probably like oh shite this could be bad, I do like the Md-11 though even though it gets put down alot for safety, as longs as its maintained and has good experienced pilots, its fine

[MedicalAviator]

That is at Kai Tak (Hong Kong) the approach to rwy 13 is famous and difficult so it is probably why the MD11 made that bad landing + it could have been whindy!

(I think that there is a video here on Youtube filmed from the cockpit of an Alitalia MD11 that lands at Kai Tak in that way)