I wasn't at all surprised when, upon reading a biography of Walt Disney, I came across the fact that Melendez supported the 1941 strike. Melendez obviously hates Walt. But I have also read that the one who probably hated Disney most of all was Art Babbit. Read "Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination" by Neil Gabler to learn more about Babbit's hostility towards Disney.
I'm in agreement for what Melendez said about how wrong (and possibly illegal) it is to sign someone else's drawing! I am surprised Freddie Moore didn't take any legal action! <:/ Once again, I love Disney as a producer, but as a person...I don't know. I wouldn't want to work for someone like him, if he steals credit for work that his employees did.
Man, what a bunch of whining. Some of the artists thinking they were more responsible for the success of the movies than Walt?? There were plenty of studios attempting animation, who had access to the same animators as Disney. They all failed. Disney had the judgement and talent to push the studio and it's employees in the direction it took, and the success it experienced. He was not the nicest guy to work for apparently, but he sure was the smartest.
This is really upsetting :'( I love 'Disney' & all my life I've been brought up with Disney films. In the films, the drawings & from what I've heard from everyone else, he got & still gets all the credit. Its like the guy said, none of these people actually doing to work got any where near enough credit..some didn't even get a mention :( & thats sad. Its one thing being a rasist in a rasist sosiety where its all you know, but its another thing to plaigerise and do something you know is wrong.
"Walt Disney" used as a name on movies and art is "Walt Disney" the brand and company started by the man. Stop bitching and go start your own highly successful, revolutionary entertainment conglomerate so you can put your name on the products sold by the company you created. OMG who would think that the "employees" wouldn't get to slap their name on the product.
What I got from this video is that Walt Disney took credit for work he didn't do. Melendez makes a good point that Walt shouldn't sign his name on drawings that weren't his creations. George Lucas has done the same thing. These guys are thieves plain and simple. They are businessmen not artists.
Truth is.. these animators would be nothing without Walt Disney, he sat down and made sure everyone did everything right. He put pressure on everyone, he was the master mind everyone else was just living his dream.
Notice only like 4 different people talked here?? You know how many people who worked with him over 2000, most would say the opposite.. so are we going to take the words of 4 people? or everyone else who said the exact opposite? let's not be idiots now. This is pure slander, and it's hatefully biased and factually inaccurate.
@edwardo44 Yeah...but the disney strike is a documented fact, and Walt himself enacted malicious testimonials against people he had a grudge against at the House un-american activites commission. Also there are more than 4 people speaking here. There is even Walt Disneys biographer speaking. The photage of the strike shown is genuine and obviously shows more than 4 people upset with Disneys way of doing things. There are very few surviviors who actually worked with Disney left to speak today.
@BelatedCommiseration Don't forget the strikes were against all the film studios at the time, it was mainly against the film industry, Walt wasnt melicious he was surprised because he treated his workers better than anyone else in the industry did, the standard was low, Walt did better than everyone else which is why he was shocked it happened.More workers who worked with him say positive things than these 8 people.thousands of Disney workers praised him in the end if you want to play numbers.
@BelatedCommiseration Also the thing about the Oscars is false go to the academy award archieves you'll see he took awards for animated films, and most were credited as "Walt Disney and the United Artists" He didn't win anything for "background design," to say he did is pure slander. Walt never denied the riots, and to some extent he wasn't proud of turning in those animators. But it's openly admitted and talked about, it's not distorted or hidden like the facts in this documentary.
@edwardo44 From what I have heard, and not just here which admittedly does dwell more on negative aspects of Disney, they praised him more of his commitment and hard work more than anything else. Now these are laudable traits but Disney has also been described as a puritain and a control freak. And not justin this doumentary. Notice how, and I am quite willing to accept he didn;t claim to do the background design, the name Walt Disney was on everything.... (cont)
@BelatedCommiseration Which documentaries did you watch??? I have never seen one documentary bash him so shamelessly like this. This is pure slander. Watch "The Boys: The Sherman Brothers's story," "Walt: The Man Behind the Myth," "or Walt & El Grupo." You can find these on this website or netflix if you have an account. These are true accounts of Walt Disney. He was a genius to say the least, even Einstein admired him. To put it lightly Walt Disney was a miracle for the modern world.
@edwardo44 Please don't get me wrong. Disney was a great marshal of talent. He created a studio from the ground up and had an eye for the best and demanded the best. If it hadnt been for him some of the marvels of disney studios would never have existed. But at the same time he was not the cuddly 'uncle walt' image he would have had you believe. I agree the accusations of him being racist, particularly against jews, could very well be hearsay. Although you hear these allegations...cont:
@edwardo44 cont)...repeated enough times by people around at the time that is no basis on which to make a judgement I agree. But when Disneywaddled up to collect the Oscar for pinnochio, for best music score (in which he ahd next to no involvement) did he even acknowledge Leigh Harline, the true force behind them? No. Did he even acknowledge him with an in house award? No. In fact he left because at the beginning of the strike because he couldn't put up with the conditions Disney imposed...cont)
@edwardo44 and his increasingly dictatorial style. Like most of post Hays code Hollywood Disney went out of his way to cuddle up the Government in order to protect his studio. But to name colleagues in front of a committee as communists when he had no proof reeks of revenge, and it was a perfectly legitimate dispute. Disney knew how to sell himself and I for one lament the fact that 'uncle walt' never really existed. But it is best to see what actually was, rather than what was 'airbrushed' in.
@edwardo44 cont:...and very little credit ever given to individual animators. I don;t remember individual animators that actually did the work being bought forward in the promotional literature and films of the time. Like in the reluctant dragon doc its all Walt. And it was malcious of him to report his colleagues as communists in that way, when it simply wasn't true. I am quite prepared to believe there were similar union disputes going on a the time but that doesn't let Disney off the hook.
@BelatedCommiseration What will you credit them for?? "cool 10 second story board sequence" ?? These guys worked as a team and Walt was their captain, he was their leader and coach he got them to work together. The most dominant influence in the films was infact, just as John Lasseter is Pixar for films today. And you know honestly Walt Disney was threatened and he didn't lie he quite literally said "I heard they are communist" He didn't lie about anything technically speaking.
@BelatedCommiseration Remember the time they were when he turned in those guys, remember the government was down his throat forcing him to make political movies. The government would have shut him down if he didn't come up with information that could prove communism. The strike leaders were complete cunts and liars, I wouldn't want them in my company either. So I would have went to the government and said.. "Here is what I heard, now investigate them and take them out of my company."
@BelatedCommiseration Actually Pinocchio if you even look at the Academy Award archieves for the 13th academy awards it is credited under the composers not Walt Disney. So I'm not sure what you are talking about? Now racist?? what about Song of the South? he was advised not to make that movie because black haters of the 40s would be out raged and he still went through it. Again he had every right to report his suspicion, they weren't his colleagues they were back stabbers. He needed them out.
@BelatedCommiseration You have to understand the time and politics those animators were out to destroy the studio and destroy his name just as this documentary is. It's only natural defend yourself and your work by removing the threat. Everyone was perfectly happy but he had little demons making up stories in the studio trying to stir people up against him, they had to go.And politically he couldn't just straight up fire them, so he said."I heard they are communist" which was true he didn't lie.
@edwardo44 Like I said about the racism thing, I am not saying I believe it as it is hearsay and as you say there is song of the south and the small world exhibit at Disney (which some purists may argue reinforces cultural sterotypes but heigh ho probably not intentional). Yes the composers are listed on the archives but Disney collected the award, its even shown here on camera! He made sure his was the only real face of Disney. The testimony to the house un-american activites....cont)
@BelatedCommiseration He was the face of the company, he was the political figure representing the company. It's the same thing Barrack Obama coming out and saying he authorized the mission that brought Bin Laden, people said he was taking credit but he was the face to speak to the people. Walt Disney doesn't need to keep awards that don't have his name on them it's useless. But politically and promotionally I see no problem in being the face of the studio.
@edwardo44 cont)...commission was heard years after the strike. The so called 'communists' did not bring down the studio and either carried on working for Disney or left of their own accord. Yet Disney was still intent on trying to blackball them and make them unemployable. Even years later when they were of no threat to him. It was revenge, pure and simple. Disney was not perfect, I can allow he might be human enough to give into such traits....cont)
@BelatedCommiseration Walt Disney was pretty near perfect in his old age, when he "cleaned his name" he truly was "Uncle Walt" in his later years. When he was young he was ambitious, passionate, protective, inexperienced, and worried about this sudden responsiblity on his shoulders. When he grew up he was more in control, I don't think he was ever a bad person. I think he made mistakes but I don't think he truly blossomed until after the war. And again he literally said.. cont)
@edwardo44 cont)....but because of this we should be careful of lauding him to highly. Disney was always intent on creating The magical Kingdom as his own private thiefdom, outside any controls be they Governmental or employee related. Disney today maintains itself outside state jurisdiction in effect. When Pat Shenck was tragically killed in a motorboat accident in 1999 Disney would not even let investigators in the park until they cleared up the scene! A legacy inherited from 'Uncle Walt'.
@BelatedCommiseration He said "I think they are Communist" honestly I would have thought too, and went and said that too. Because that strike later was said to be Communist funded, and one guy even admitted taking Communist funding and said "I was not a Communist but I was happy to spend their money" So he really does have reason to think that. If Disney was truly as bad as people say it is the company would crash by now. No one would buy, and boycotting would go crazy.
@edwardo44 I quite agree, people wouldn't buy or go to see Disney films if Walt was really 'that bad' but thats what a media machine is for. To whitewash and manipulate the truth towards other ends. Disney certainly learned this craft when workig for the Government in propaganda films, although I think he was pretty savvy to the art of spin anyway. I agree Disney was the face of his comany and would always have needed to be present at awards but all the promotional literature ....cont)
@edwardo44 cont)...shows Disney as being the 'master animator' sitting next to drawing utensils, story boards etc, when the man couldn't even draw! He admitted this personally and it is bought up here. Disney described himself as an 'ideas' man, but billed himself as a master animator. Hell, he didn't even draw Mickey Mouse! It was Ub Iwerks! Now, despite the fact I am saying quite a few negative things, I do respect Disney as a driven man who, despite his lack of innate talent,.....cont)
@edwardo44 cont)...who pushed the boundries of animation. I invisage Disney as a conducter of an orchestra, who may not have knowledge of every single instrument but knows how to get them to play in harmony, and I think this was the idea the man had of himself. Without Disney's drive towards better animation, we would not the standards we do, or animated films. For that he deserves praise, but not as some aseptic 'uncle walt' who wouldn't hurt a fly when this was blatantly not the case.
Having dreams and working hard for it is no excuse to be an ignorant ass.walt didnt work hard he slave labored races and peoples he couldnt stand and lived off thier talents
I think these workers have no idea that this man risked all of his money to create this company. Most workers and customers never have the balls to go for their dream, so they hitch a ride on someone else's. Don't complain. Do the hard work it takes to start your own company.
First time was Stan Lee didnt write comics he just did dialoge over Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko plot & drawn comics and then putting writing credit in his name.
Bob Kane putting creator rights over Batman instead of Bill Finger
Walt Disney not being able to draw Mickey, no credit to Ub Iwerks
The world must realize that Disneyland is based upon the white man's journey through the world. Main Street is based on the American Midwest. Adventureland is based on England's colonization of Africa. Frontierland is based on the American expansion to the West. "Critter country" and New Orleans Square is based on American society before/after or near the time of emancipation--back to a time of segregation. Tomorrowland is Disney wondering where the white race will go to next.
Omgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is wrong with u people ppl take credit for other ppls ideas all the time. So what is walt did it he is only human he wasn't perfect no one is. U guys shouldn't be sayin this bout him rip walt Disney......... The nerve of some of u!!!!!!!! I've watched all of them n I can careless what u guys think bout him I still think he is awesome!!!!!!!! U guys r so dumb I can't belive u! He built Disneyland for us to share memories! Gosh u guys really piss me
I can't imagine how Fred Moore must've felt after Disney signed HIS Mickey Mouse drawing. What the hell was Walt thinking?! And I don't like the fact that Walt didn't respect other people's opinions; he believed his own opinions and suggestions mattered. Those animators and artists had a hell of a lot of talent, and they were brimming with ideas. I can't believe Disney would reject some of them.
People who are made upset by the Disney corporation should really look into any corporation during this time; it will make Disney look advanced. And someday we will all be horrified by the abuses of workers that take place today.
As for the credit sharing, that sadly is prevalent today.
People who are made upset by the Disney corporation should really look into any corporation during this time; it will make Disney look advanced. And someday we will all be horrified by the abuses of workers that take place today.
I never knew how selfish Walt Disney was until watching this. He hired maybe 600 or 700 artists to work on a cartoon, yet he got most of the credit! He's basically commiting plagiarism. He could get into trouble for that, yet he got away with it.
@mario6sic6 Did you see the clip from Pastoral Symphony with the centaurs? Some people think the female centaurs were extremely sexualized. And I also heard of an African American servant centaur polishing a white centaur's hoof. That was viewed as extremely racist. I agree.
Wow for now on I'm giving all my credit for the old disney movies to the animators..Disney is racisists and was stealing all the credit from his workers!!!
@NativeAmericanQueen1 I don't think you realize that most people had the racist mentality, unlike today. Though, some people who were living in these days that are still living now may have not changed. Sad.
Yes but these " disgruntled Disney artists " and PC critics had no problem cashing the checks did they?! ...If the animators wanted the Oscars why didnt they scare up the money and start a studio of their own like he did? why because its hard as hell! BTW People might be suprised at how many BIG artists dont do ANYof the work that bears their name, and many of them didnt have the story telling talent,vision or BALLS that Walt had. Walt was alright in my book!
Unions communist. God Bless Walt Disney, today Mexican illegals work at Walt Disney World. I even saw some wearing old coloniel clothes. I didn't know in Washington days illegal immigrants existed that speak spanish not english.
Walt Disney World is garbage today thanks to the communist that have taken it over.
Plenty of anti-semites are perfectly willing to work with Jews, are very pleasant with them, even say they like them, as long as they don't act TOO Jewish.
Okay. You can't believe everything you hear. Was everything said about Michael Jackson true? No! One of the accusers recently committed suicide and wrote a note about how the accusations were false. Disney was a good man. He was also a perfectionist. What he did, for that day, was still more progressive than everyone else around him. And you just give him crap because he's an important public figure.
The facts don't align with your comment do some research. He wasn't a progressive have you heard his testimony agianst communism at the house of Unamerican Activities? He supported Barry Goldwater in 1964 campaign. I agree with you that this video is slanderous and hateful against the Disney name, but Walt was a conservative through and through.
@jc201091 Meh. Even if that is true, wasn't he ahead of many other Americans of the time? I mean, he was one of the first people to really start being concerned with environmental issues. And he founded CalArts, an institution which trains students in progressive and experimental arts. I understand he wasn't pefect, but isn't he better than a lot of people give him credit for?
The people that attack him here represent a small insignificant minority that starts fights for the sake of it. Though the misconception of Walt being liberal is because he made films that both sides of the political spectrum can agree on so both sides try to capitalize on his political views. Truth is he was hardly political he was interested in keeping the company afloat. So when the 1941 strike hit he decided to go conservative by attacking dangerous unions.
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This film is a joke... this idiot with the mustache is out for blood. He was let go during the union time period and uses this as "get back at Walt". Walt got burned often while young and was very careful about making sure things done in his studio were that of his name. You can see that today with a place like Pixar, where those in are there for the team, not their own name. The union is a joke and hurt animation.
a lot of the 'points' in these videos are stale. very interesting but stale. trying to rip on Walt Disney for putting his name on the work? I don't think anyone believed that Walt drew all of the work, it was the name of the business. get over it old timers.
dude would you want some one to go around saying your child was theres? then you raise it and they tell every one how much work it took to raise your child??
im getting into cartooning and i would spit on the person who tryed to take my cartoons
Yeh... i knew he was an unspoken antisemit ... but you got to give the guy credit for the ability to create and keep an army of people ( drawers) and make them do a top noch job... he was a perfectionist , a leader... just liek Hitler.... ... don't like em both :D
This documentary is quite interesting. The only thing i don't believe in this documentary is him being a racist. If that's the case, just keep in mind that you don't have to like Disney as a person but you can like his work. Sure I'm not happy what I'm hearing but i still like his work.
@jessexschrof I agree with you. I still love his movies, but after seeing this, I have doubts about Disney as a person. He doesn't seem like a very nice guy to work for.
yes he took the credit,,but the the cartoon film was his idea.
aghzizo 2 days ago
I wasn't at all surprised when, upon reading a biography of Walt Disney, I came across the fact that Melendez supported the 1941 strike. Melendez obviously hates Walt. But I have also read that the one who probably hated Disney most of all was Art Babbit. Read "Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination" by Neil Gabler to learn more about Babbit's hostility towards Disney.
31operafan 1 week ago
I'm in agreement for what Melendez said about how wrong (and possibly illegal) it is to sign someone else's drawing! I am surprised Freddie Moore didn't take any legal action! <:/ Once again, I love Disney as a producer, but as a person...I don't know. I wouldn't want to work for someone like him, if he steals credit for work that his employees did.
31operafan 1 week ago
Man, what a bunch of whining. Some of the artists thinking they were more responsible for the success of the movies than Walt?? There were plenty of studios attempting animation, who had access to the same animators as Disney. They all failed. Disney had the judgement and talent to push the studio and it's employees in the direction it took, and the success it experienced. He was not the nicest guy to work for apparently, but he sure was the smartest.
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This is really upsetting :'( I love 'Disney' & all my life I've been brought up with Disney films. In the films, the drawings & from what I've heard from everyone else, he got & still gets all the credit. Its like the guy said, none of these people actually doing to work got any where near enough credit..some didn't even get a mention :( & thats sad. Its one thing being a rasist in a rasist sosiety where its all you know, but its another thing to plaigerise and do something you know is wrong.
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"Walt Disney" used as a name on movies and art is "Walt Disney" the brand and company started by the man. Stop bitching and go start your own highly successful, revolutionary entertainment conglomerate so you can put your name on the products sold by the company you created. OMG who would think that the "employees" wouldn't get to slap their name on the product.
eaglefreak138 2 months ago
What I got from this video is that Walt Disney took credit for work he didn't do. Melendez makes a good point that Walt shouldn't sign his name on drawings that weren't his creations. George Lucas has done the same thing. These guys are thieves plain and simple. They are businessmen not artists.
nikto45 3 months ago
"If Disney was truly as bad as people say it is the company would crash by now. No one would buy, and boycotting would go crazy."
So you're telling me that any company that's ever done terrible things has been boycotted out of business? Fascinating.
anemone9 4 months ago
Truth is.. these animators would be nothing without Walt Disney, he sat down and made sure everyone did everything right. He put pressure on everyone, he was the master mind everyone else was just living his dream.
edwardo44 6 months ago
Notice only like 4 different people talked here?? You know how many people who worked with him over 2000, most would say the opposite.. so are we going to take the words of 4 people? or everyone else who said the exact opposite? let's not be idiots now. This is pure slander, and it's hatefully biased and factually inaccurate.
edwardo44 6 months ago
@edwardo44 Yeah...but the disney strike is a documented fact, and Walt himself enacted malicious testimonials against people he had a grudge against at the House un-american activites commission. Also there are more than 4 people speaking here. There is even Walt Disneys biographer speaking. The photage of the strike shown is genuine and obviously shows more than 4 people upset with Disneys way of doing things. There are very few surviviors who actually worked with Disney left to speak today.
BelatedCommiseration 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Don't forget the strikes were against all the film studios at the time, it was mainly against the film industry, Walt wasnt melicious he was surprised because he treated his workers better than anyone else in the industry did, the standard was low, Walt did better than everyone else which is why he was shocked it happened.More workers who worked with him say positive things than these 8 people.thousands of Disney workers praised him in the end if you want to play numbers.
edwardo44 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Also the thing about the Oscars is false go to the academy award archieves you'll see he took awards for animated films, and most were credited as "Walt Disney and the United Artists" He didn't win anything for "background design," to say he did is pure slander. Walt never denied the riots, and to some extent he wasn't proud of turning in those animators. But it's openly admitted and talked about, it's not distorted or hidden like the facts in this documentary.
edwardo44 6 months ago
@edwardo44 From what I have heard, and not just here which admittedly does dwell more on negative aspects of Disney, they praised him more of his commitment and hard work more than anything else. Now these are laudable traits but Disney has also been described as a puritain and a control freak. And not justin this doumentary. Notice how, and I am quite willing to accept he didn;t claim to do the background design, the name Walt Disney was on everything.... (cont)
BelatedCommiseration 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Which documentaries did you watch??? I have never seen one documentary bash him so shamelessly like this. This is pure slander. Watch "The Boys: The Sherman Brothers's story," "Walt: The Man Behind the Myth," "or Walt & El Grupo." You can find these on this website or netflix if you have an account. These are true accounts of Walt Disney. He was a genius to say the least, even Einstein admired him. To put it lightly Walt Disney was a miracle for the modern world.
edwardo44 6 months ago
@edwardo44 Please don't get me wrong. Disney was a great marshal of talent. He created a studio from the ground up and had an eye for the best and demanded the best. If it hadnt been for him some of the marvels of disney studios would never have existed. But at the same time he was not the cuddly 'uncle walt' image he would have had you believe. I agree the accusations of him being racist, particularly against jews, could very well be hearsay. Although you hear these allegations...cont:
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont)...repeated enough times by people around at the time that is no basis on which to make a judgement I agree. But when Disneywaddled up to collect the Oscar for pinnochio, for best music score (in which he ahd next to no involvement) did he even acknowledge Leigh Harline, the true force behind them? No. Did he even acknowledge him with an in house award? No. In fact he left because at the beginning of the strike because he couldn't put up with the conditions Disney imposed...cont)
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@edwardo44 and his increasingly dictatorial style. Like most of post Hays code Hollywood Disney went out of his way to cuddle up the Government in order to protect his studio. But to name colleagues in front of a committee as communists when he had no proof reeks of revenge, and it was a perfectly legitimate dispute. Disney knew how to sell himself and I for one lament the fact that 'uncle walt' never really existed. But it is best to see what actually was, rather than what was 'airbrushed' in.
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont:...and very little credit ever given to individual animators. I don;t remember individual animators that actually did the work being bought forward in the promotional literature and films of the time. Like in the reluctant dragon doc its all Walt. And it was malcious of him to report his colleagues as communists in that way, when it simply wasn't true. I am quite prepared to believe there were similar union disputes going on a the time but that doesn't let Disney off the hook.
BelatedCommiseration 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration What will you credit them for?? "cool 10 second story board sequence" ?? These guys worked as a team and Walt was their captain, he was their leader and coach he got them to work together. The most dominant influence in the films was infact, just as John Lasseter is Pixar for films today. And you know honestly Walt Disney was threatened and he didn't lie he quite literally said "I heard they are communist" He didn't lie about anything technically speaking.
edwardo44 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Remember the time they were when he turned in those guys, remember the government was down his throat forcing him to make political movies. The government would have shut him down if he didn't come up with information that could prove communism. The strike leaders were complete cunts and liars, I wouldn't want them in my company either. So I would have went to the government and said.. "Here is what I heard, now investigate them and take them out of my company."
edwardo44 6 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Actually Pinocchio if you even look at the Academy Award archieves for the 13th academy awards it is credited under the composers not Walt Disney. So I'm not sure what you are talking about? Now racist?? what about Song of the South? he was advised not to make that movie because black haters of the 40s would be out raged and he still went through it. Again he had every right to report his suspicion, they weren't his colleagues they were back stabbers. He needed them out.
edwardo44 5 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration You have to understand the time and politics those animators were out to destroy the studio and destroy his name just as this documentary is. It's only natural defend yourself and your work by removing the threat. Everyone was perfectly happy but he had little demons making up stories in the studio trying to stir people up against him, they had to go.And politically he couldn't just straight up fire them, so he said."I heard they are communist" which was true he didn't lie.
edwardo44 5 months ago
@edwardo44 Like I said about the racism thing, I am not saying I believe it as it is hearsay and as you say there is song of the south and the small world exhibit at Disney (which some purists may argue reinforces cultural sterotypes but heigh ho probably not intentional). Yes the composers are listed on the archives but Disney collected the award, its even shown here on camera! He made sure his was the only real face of Disney. The testimony to the house un-american activites....cont)
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration He was the face of the company, he was the political figure representing the company. It's the same thing Barrack Obama coming out and saying he authorized the mission that brought Bin Laden, people said he was taking credit but he was the face to speak to the people. Walt Disney doesn't need to keep awards that don't have his name on them it's useless. But politically and promotionally I see no problem in being the face of the studio.
edwardo44 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont)...commission was heard years after the strike. The so called 'communists' did not bring down the studio and either carried on working for Disney or left of their own accord. Yet Disney was still intent on trying to blackball them and make them unemployable. Even years later when they were of no threat to him. It was revenge, pure and simple. Disney was not perfect, I can allow he might be human enough to give into such traits....cont)
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration Walt Disney was pretty near perfect in his old age, when he "cleaned his name" he truly was "Uncle Walt" in his later years. When he was young he was ambitious, passionate, protective, inexperienced, and worried about this sudden responsiblity on his shoulders. When he grew up he was more in control, I don't think he was ever a bad person. I think he made mistakes but I don't think he truly blossomed until after the war. And again he literally said.. cont)
edwardo44 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont)....but because of this we should be careful of lauding him to highly. Disney was always intent on creating The magical Kingdom as his own private thiefdom, outside any controls be they Governmental or employee related. Disney today maintains itself outside state jurisdiction in effect. When Pat Shenck was tragically killed in a motorboat accident in 1999 Disney would not even let investigators in the park until they cleared up the scene! A legacy inherited from 'Uncle Walt'.
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@BelatedCommiseration He said "I think they are Communist" honestly I would have thought too, and went and said that too. Because that strike later was said to be Communist funded, and one guy even admitted taking Communist funding and said "I was not a Communist but I was happy to spend their money" So he really does have reason to think that. If Disney was truly as bad as people say it is the company would crash by now. No one would buy, and boycotting would go crazy.
edwardo44 5 months ago
@edwardo44 I quite agree, people wouldn't buy or go to see Disney films if Walt was really 'that bad' but thats what a media machine is for. To whitewash and manipulate the truth towards other ends. Disney certainly learned this craft when workig for the Government in propaganda films, although I think he was pretty savvy to the art of spin anyway. I agree Disney was the face of his comany and would always have needed to be present at awards but all the promotional literature ....cont)
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont)...shows Disney as being the 'master animator' sitting next to drawing utensils, story boards etc, when the man couldn't even draw! He admitted this personally and it is bought up here. Disney described himself as an 'ideas' man, but billed himself as a master animator. Hell, he didn't even draw Mickey Mouse! It was Ub Iwerks! Now, despite the fact I am saying quite a few negative things, I do respect Disney as a driven man who, despite his lack of innate talent,.....cont)
BelatedCommiseration 5 months ago
@edwardo44 cont)...who pushed the boundries of animation. I invisage Disney as a conducter of an orchestra, who may not have knowledge of every single instrument but knows how to get them to play in harmony, and I think this was the idea the man had of himself. Without Disney's drive towards better animation, we would not the standards we do, or animated films. For that he deserves praise, but not as some aseptic 'uncle walt' who wouldn't hurt a fly when this was blatantly not the case.
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edwardo44 6 months ago
Reminds me of the situation with Sting and The Police. Andy should have received that Grammy for "Behind My Camel".
NotOrdinaryInGames 6 months ago
Having dreams and working hard for it is no excuse to be an ignorant ass.walt didnt work hard he slave labored races and peoples he couldnt stand and lived off thier talents
theenlightenment2012 6 months ago
Talk about being FULL OF YOURSELF.....wow...he takes it to a whole new level.
Venusstar22 6 months ago
man i hate to say this but walt disney was a jerk
Macjdj44 6 months ago
I think these workers have no idea that this man risked all of his money to create this company. Most workers and customers never have the balls to go for their dream, so they hitch a ride on someone else's. Don't complain. Do the hard work it takes to start your own company.
mahoney8787 7 months ago
@americanjedi77 whys he gotta be an idiot? i like that guy
UnequivocallySpeakin 7 months ago
he says they had a good natured strike WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT
the dancing was one thing but decapitateing disney is absolutely grotesque no from the inside walls who wouldnt feel personaly hurt and threatend
defiant2u 9 months ago
Another Iconclast
First time was Stan Lee didnt write comics he just did dialoge over Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko plot & drawn comics and then putting writing credit in his name.
Bob Kane putting creator rights over Batman instead of Bill Finger
Walt Disney not being able to draw Mickey, no credit to Ub Iwerks
and lastly Mona Lisa was really a man.
No wonder why there are so many athiest.
J5MARLON 10 months ago
@J5MARLON More Iconclast
Pat Sullivan credited for Felix the Cat over Otto Mesmer
Walter Lantz-Woody Woodpecker over Ben Hardaway
Fred Quimby-Tom and Jerry over Hanna-Barbera
The Fleischers-Betty Boop over Grim Natwick
The biggest sin-Eddie Seltzer accepting Oscars over Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, et al
acholl980 7 months ago
The world must realize that Disneyland is based upon the white man's journey through the world. Main Street is based on the American Midwest. Adventureland is based on England's colonization of Africa. Frontierland is based on the American expansion to the West. "Critter country" and New Orleans Square is based on American society before/after or near the time of emancipation--back to a time of segregation. Tomorrowland is Disney wondering where the white race will go to next.
SagaciousSilence 1 year ago
he hate jews n blacks what our money not green! he was a a@@
2163264990 1 year ago
Omgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is wrong with u people ppl take credit for other ppls ideas all the time. So what is walt did it he is only human he wasn't perfect no one is. U guys shouldn't be sayin this bout him rip walt Disney......... The nerve of some of u!!!!!!!! I've watched all of them n I can careless what u guys think bout him I still think he is awesome!!!!!!!! U guys r so dumb I can't belive u! He built Disneyland for us to share memories! Gosh u guys really piss me
skittles6428 1 year ago
@skittles6428 Good to know you promote racism and sexism.
MrW1DEAWAK3 7 months ago
I can't imagine how Fred Moore must've felt after Disney signed HIS Mickey Mouse drawing. What the hell was Walt thinking?! And I don't like the fact that Walt didn't respect other people's opinions; he believed his own opinions and suggestions mattered. Those animators and artists had a hell of a lot of talent, and they were brimming with ideas. I can't believe Disney would reject some of them.
31operafan 1 year ago
People who are made upset by the Disney corporation should really look into any corporation during this time; it will make Disney look advanced. And someday we will all be horrified by the abuses of workers that take place today.
As for the credit sharing, that sadly is prevalent today.
alldrenched 1 year ago
People who are made upset by the Disney corporation should really look into any corporation during this time; it will make Disney look advanced. And someday we will all be horrified by the abuses of workers that take place today.
alldrenched 1 year ago
god these need to get more popular
stang2712 1 year ago
is left eye is falling of his face at 5:53
metroidM1A1 1 year ago
He was not an artist, he was a business man. He doesn't sound like someone I would want to know or work for. Sinister.
theraviolicat 1 year ago
Excuse me, Walt, but do you know that unionizing is FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION? Geez, he should read the Constitution.
31operafan 1 year ago
I never knew how selfish Walt Disney was until watching this. He hired maybe 600 or 700 artists to work on a cartoon, yet he got most of the credit! He's basically commiting plagiarism. He could get into trouble for that, yet he got away with it.
31operafan 1 year ago
what was the problem with fantasia? =S
mario6sic6 1 year ago
@mario6sic6 Did you see the clip from Pastoral Symphony with the centaurs? Some people think the female centaurs were extremely sexualized. And I also heard of an African American servant centaur polishing a white centaur's hoof. That was viewed as extremely racist. I agree.
31operafan 1 year ago
Racism is still around....duh....And it's strong today...and it's against minorities...
It's very rare for someone else to get
Assulted....i bet most of the disney movies
Today wouldn't be made if Disney was alive..
But whatever this is what I think....
NativeAmericanQueen1 1 year ago
Wow for now on I'm giving all my credit for the old disney movies to the animators..Disney is racisists and was stealing all the credit from his workers!!!
NativeAmericanQueen1 1 year ago
@NativeAmericanQueen1 I don't think you realize that most people had the racist mentality, unlike today. Though, some people who were living in these days that are still living now may have not changed. Sad.
eathenicus 1 year ago
Yes but these " disgruntled Disney artists " and PC critics had no problem cashing the checks did they?! ...If the animators wanted the Oscars why didnt they scare up the money and start a studio of their own like he did? why because its hard as hell! BTW People might be suprised at how many BIG artists dont do ANYof the work that bears their name, and many of them didnt have the story telling talent,vision or BALLS that Walt had. Walt was alright in my book!
haxanthrobo 1 year ago
Unions communist. God Bless Walt Disney, today Mexican illegals work at Walt Disney World. I even saw some wearing old coloniel clothes. I didn't know in Washington days illegal immigrants existed that speak spanish not english.
Walt Disney World is garbage today thanks to the communist that have taken it over.
galorize12rt 1 year ago
@galorize12rt do u know u amreican assholes stole 4 of your states from mexico so u should just stfu!!!
vaknyuszi 1 year ago
Anti-semitism isn't what most people think.
Plenty of anti-semites are perfectly willing to work with Jews, are very pleasant with them, even say they like them, as long as they don't act TOO Jewish.
WillScarlet16 2 years ago
they are just afraid of what they call "The Sheeny Curse"
Aniihya 1 year ago
Okay. You can't believe everything you hear. Was everything said about Michael Jackson true? No! One of the accusers recently committed suicide and wrote a note about how the accusations were false. Disney was a good man. He was also a perfectionist. What he did, for that day, was still more progressive than everyone else around him. And you just give him crap because he's an important public figure.
UserRED13 2 years ago
@UserRED13
The facts don't align with your comment do some research. He wasn't a progressive have you heard his testimony agianst communism at the house of Unamerican Activities? He supported Barry Goldwater in 1964 campaign. I agree with you that this video is slanderous and hateful against the Disney name, but Walt was a conservative through and through.
jc201091 1 year ago
@jc201091 Meh. Even if that is true, wasn't he ahead of many other Americans of the time? I mean, he was one of the first people to really start being concerned with environmental issues. And he founded CalArts, an institution which trains students in progressive and experimental arts. I understand he wasn't pefect, but isn't he better than a lot of people give him credit for?
UserRED13 1 year ago
@UserRED13
The people that attack him here represent a small insignificant minority that starts fights for the sake of it. Though the misconception of Walt being liberal is because he made films that both sides of the political spectrum can agree on so both sides try to capitalize on his political views. Truth is he was hardly political he was interested in keeping the company afloat. So when the 1941 strike hit he decided to go conservative by attacking dangerous unions.
jc201091 1 year ago
@jc201091 Oh. Makes sense.
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@jc201091 Oh. Makes sense.
UserRED13 1 year ago
what an ego-maniac.
WhiteFlowerLei76 2 years ago 9
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This film is a joke... this idiot with the mustache is out for blood. He was let go during the union time period and uses this as "get back at Walt". Walt got burned often while young and was very careful about making sure things done in his studio were that of his name. You can see that today with a place like Pixar, where those in are there for the team, not their own name. The union is a joke and hurt animation.
plausibleimpossible 2 years ago
a lot of the 'points' in these videos are stale. very interesting but stale. trying to rip on Walt Disney for putting his name on the work? I don't think anyone believed that Walt drew all of the work, it was the name of the business. get over it old timers.
Coltftm5 2 years ago
dude would you want some one to go around saying your child was theres? then you raise it and they tell every one how much work it took to raise your child??
im getting into cartooning and i would spit on the person who tryed to take my cartoons
even if it was my boss
REEFSthaGEEK 2 years ago
Disney cartoons suck dont like them
Disney is a dick
Yamiyusei966 2 years ago
Yeh... i knew he was an unspoken antisemit ... but you got to give the guy credit for the ability to create and keep an army of people ( drawers) and make them do a top noch job... he was a perfectionist , a leader... just liek Hitler.... ... don't like em both :D
cakebake223 3 years ago
This documentary is quite interesting. The only thing i don't believe in this documentary is him being a racist. If that's the case, just keep in mind that you don't have to like Disney as a person but you can like his work. Sure I'm not happy what I'm hearing but i still like his work.
jessexschrof 3 years ago
I agree wholeheartedly.
Muppephile 2 years ago
@jessexschrof I agree with you. I still love his movies, but after seeing this, I have doubts about Disney as a person. He doesn't seem like a very nice guy to work for.
31operafan 1 year ago