@littlemissgoodgirl96 Men are of more "value" than women to the system--disregarding human creation; which, is very important.
We are both important... but, too often, women use their importance as baby-makers as leverage to have a "license to be insane"
And we're tired of your bullshit.
Start helping the world; stop being dependent on others; START pulling your weight. Education is the START to integrating and being HELPFUL. I'm tired of seeing do-nothing, trophy wives... a worthless lot.
@morph995 When he says "a couple hundred thousand" vs "40 million" he is giving you a HUGE benefit of the doubt. A single mother doing something dumbs is just that... Forcing a child into the world that has disadvantages from the very beginning... in which the women is at cause and could have stopped it from happening at WILL (the percentage occurring from rape is negligible). Also, most men aren't there for "robbing a bank". Most are there for petty, non-violent crimes.
if you would like some references i can give you some
(i don't care if you are trolling it will be funny to make a fool of you [seemingly] and thereby people that have a similar argument to yours in a publicly-viewed medium)
@morph995 I think your views on life are too narrow-minded. No I am not a single mother and it still doesn't change my opinion. You're entitled to your own opinion but I don't agree with the generalization you made about women in your prior statement. Women are not defined by just single parenting. There is more to us BTW being in prison and working at McDonalds is not a direct result of being raised without a father. I think you have a lot to learn.
@morph995 Lastly, I don't agree that being a single mother out of wedlock is "stupid". There are many women who are more than capable of raising a child without wanting to be in a relationship. Have you heard of a sperm bank? Have you heard of high profile women that make millions of dollars and one day decide that they want to have a baby and nothing more? This is about choice. Women should have the choice to choose what they want for themselves and their life. Just like men.
@OmniGirlEffect Raising a child out of wedlock isn't "stupid" however it is very destructive and irresponsible. Listening to the primal urge to merely reproduce (biological clock, etc.) instead of logic and reasoning is HIGHLY irresponsible.
The strongest correlation between anything and drug addiction is a boy being raised without their father in their lives. If you want documented data, i can provide it.
Also, the women that raised without assistance are a VERY small percentage of the whole.
@morph995 Second of all, your stat on "40 million single mothers" includes widows, separated, divorced, teenagers and a whole slew of other life situations. I suggest U give this video a second look and truly try to understand what it is about before U decide to express a very thoughtless and offensive comment. The Girl Effect is a philosophy and movement that targets women in areas of poverty. By providing education, health, and other resources this movement enables women to have a better life
@OmniGirlEffect the fact that the 40 million people includes many situations is not too terribly relevant to strengthening the position of your argument. (widows notwithstanding... however I highly doubt it is a very high percentage of the whole... I'll put money on that. How does 100 bucks sound? I'd like to make some easy money...)
There is no reason to restate what the girl effect is... you can just watch the movie. We KNOW what it is. Things like this are WHY he says you are dumb.
@ZRadach Clearly this post wasn't for you. It was meant for the individual I was responding to, who I felt didn't quite understand the video or view it (based on my convo with him). But thanks for your two cents and inviting yourself into our conversation.
@OmniGirlEffect Making the assumption that he doesn't know what it is about and didn't simply WATCH the video makes you look assuming, and naive. I'm not attacking you... I'm merely giving you an observation of how that makes you look in the eyes of others that read your commentary.
Also, the "divorced, separated" etc... get rid of alimony and whatnot, and watch all of the "divorce" and "separated" numbers suddenly go down... I don't have any proof but I strongly believe that to be true.
@morph995 First of all, your initial statement was "women are stupid... you can't fix stupid". That's a pretty general statement in which you generalized a whole group of different types of women coming from different situations. Perhaps next time, you should be more specific in what you are saying. Getting knocked up out of wedlock is circumstantial and extremely subjective. How does your above statement defend women who are victims of rape?
@OmniGirlEffect getting knocked up out of wedlock is not subjective... it is 100% objective.
there is very little personal bias and opinion etc. (usually the difference between subjective and objective) in wedlock. Either they were married or they weren't. Either they allowed themselves to become impregnated, or they didn't. Simple stuff, honey.
Everything is "circumstantial". The circumstance was that the woman was irresponsible, and will bring a child into a very disadvantaged environment.
@ZRadach "Everything is "circumstantial". The circumstance was that the woman was irresponsible, and will bring a child into a very disadvantaged environment." How does your statement defend women who are victims of rape? Do you feel the more responsible thing to do is to abort? ..... What about religious and personal beliefs against abortion? Anyways, it's not important. This page should be dedicated to positive comments about this movement.
@OmniGirlEffect positive force to drag more hell into this world? no thanks. you dont realise what you do. please stop. more power to ignorance turns irrationality into reality. you can live in that irrational world where you women wont be charged even a fine for massacring males. you are inhuman for developing such thoughts, u r insane for promoting such thoughts, and you are a sadist to bring such insanity upon all mankind.
anyhow trust me. stop. you have to. else you'll produce more insanity
@OmniGirlEffect feminism is destructive... anything that supports one side over another is biased and destructive to humanity.
no side is "better" they are just "different". However, the current value system does place men on a higher level of "value". HOWEVER, women are physically superior in most ways as far as longevity and overall health goes.
Nothing comes without it's drawbacks and benefits. This is how life works... get used to it; that's how it is whether you like it or not.
@ZRadach If you had studied Feminism (AT ALL) you would realize that it's not about supporting one side over the other. It's about equality despite race, gender and sexual preference. I don't understand how you interpreted my comment as "women" are better than "men" or whatever. The point is, we are all equals and we're working to achieve equality.
"we are all equals and we're working to achieve equality. " my ass... keep your feministic excuse with yourself, never true, can never be true, and is not true either
I kno now some other ass reading this will throw sh1t at me... go ahead
"we are equals" then why promote women at all? promote every1 na? but dont worry i cannot blame you women (ofc u r 1) who would like to lose one's overpowering rights huh? u ppl have created 64% reservation already
@JayantKumarZ By Faker are you implying faker or fukcer. Just wanted to clarify. Clearly your view lacks historical context. If men and women were viewed equally then there would be no need to address equality. Similarly, if coloured and white people were viewed equally then why did America need a revolution to equalize rights between black people and white people? So how can you say that my statement is not true based on facts? I don't care for your opinion, as this debate is not about opinion.
@OmniGirlEffect history? thats the problem you ignorant rats keep bitching about history and dont let any progress. What i m saying is everything needs to be developed, not that there are 2 objects A & B living together and A has been better till now so now A must be terminated till B catches up. no thats not the way. you must let both A & B run, yes you are free to accelerate B but not retard A
but the point is still the same, accelerate those you like but not so much that they exceed and then too you keep accelerating, coz that creates imbalance n brings misery (not to the one being accelerated ofc) but still
@JayantKumarZ I don't understanding your constant need to demean women. Rats? Come on... grow up! No one is suggesting that A needs to be stopped or A needs to lax until B catches up. A is progressing... and A will continue to do so. B needs more work. Which is why the focus is on B in this video. There are MANY organizations out there. It's not like the world just came up with THIS ONE and forgot about men and many others. Go do some research and then bring your facts,
@JayantKumarZ We can not be certain about something without facts. Validity is defined by facts. Knowledge can only be verified through facts. By just saying "I have cancer" does not make it true. Having cancer is determined through tests that validate this finding. Is that not true? Do you not think that facts are a necessary condition to validating your argument?
@OmniGirlEffect thats why, if concentration hits high enough that it can influence forces, it will be legally impossible, coz ignorants wont listen n deny everything to others, only way left will be strikes which will be brutally suppressed
@JayantKumarZ So what do you suggest? Why not share your insight on how we can sustain equality between men and women in terms of access to health care and education? What organization should we form to help everyone? What is YOUR solution to the problems we are facing in developing countries? How do YOU propose we decrease the spreading of Aids? You have so much to say against this. Why don't you provide a solution?
@OmniGirlEffect thats what i am thinking at the moment lol but i kno that whats going on can lead to a greater hell... yes i kno if a dam is being constructed i cant go n tell em to stop coz of its consequences unless i have a reason better than the progress which can be brought... but on comparision if i find dam more harmful, i must go n stop em regardless of whether i have a solution or not thats y we need everyone to think this out than just doing w/e one feels like w/ random justifications
@JayantKumarZ even if i see that it will be in the good for one & bad for another... but then the question which is thrown is... what if does good for beggar & bad to the rich; ofc that will but thats untill they both are satisfied... what if the rich are overthrown during the growth of beggar? that sum questions i too want to kno a satisfactory answer to
@JayantKumarZ Also, I would like to know what this 64% reservation is related to. This movement is set out to promote opportunities to women in areas where women don 't have access to health care, education and overall well being. Targeting a specific group leads to overall improved living conditions for everyone. So in essence it is promoting everyone and not specifically women. Look at the way you are referencing your comment, "you... women". So u are doing exactly what you are accusing me of.
@OmniGirlEffect a bit truth there (did made a lil mistake there due to ignorance) but only a bit. if u think that reservation or services to only 1 sector raises their level then u r seriously mistaken... u may culture pigeons by giving them more food, but u do not culture pigeons by giving food only to them k? when u understand that point then only expect further reply
@JayantKumarZ I agree to your pigeon analogy but who is saying that others are not being assisted as well/ There are many other programs that have been successfully administered in these areas. It's just that they have been unsuccessful in addressing women. That is why they are promoting women in this specific campaign. They realized that men have been keeping up with education and health care. But women are major carriers of HIV and AIDS. So the system can not be improved unless women r helped
@OmniGirlEffect i see a bit of your point but then the problem is there are ppl who want to abuse this power, take the pigeon only if hes insane, he sure wud luv others to die n get everything himself there are ignorant selfish ppl too. My concern is that this upliftment, if misused, will bring grave effects like equality struggles which will cause sever destruction thats the major concern too... but that can be stopped... thats why i want to fix this problem so that the upcoming event may stop
@JayantKumarZ Those types of people exist everywhere and it is something we can not control. So are we to say that because of these people we should stop doing things that could potentially benefit those who are more deserving? NO?! There are so many organizations out there to help improve impoverished areas. Just because there is an org. to prevent AIDs does not mean people that don't have AIDs are not as important. Everyone is. Unfortunately as a society we only go after the worst problem.
@JayantKumarZ Then you my friend would have been a British man's kutha. If India didn't fight for freedom and equality, India would have still been under British rule (To them everyone who joined Mahatma Gandhi was ignorant and should have been terminated) So I don't understand why ur so resistant to a cause that is promoting improvement. Forget that it's about women. Because there are many causes for so many other groups. It seems that you are against all causes. Unless ur included as well.
@OmniGirlEffect i m not concerned about what you will do will affect me or not. but since your moment has a greater chance to worsen the situation than to improve... its better to resent it now before its too late
@JayantKumarZ If it doesn't concern than why be bothered? Don't you have something better to do with your time? If it doesn't concern you than why are you stopping something that could potentially HELP others? Because I do not think that you or I know what could come from such a cause. So why not allow it to flourish and see what happens next? Why be so skeptical?
@OmniGirlEffect no the prob is not the current upliftment, its the consequence it will bring, overconcentration of power will ofc lead to dominance but this time of 1 entire sex ie. so the hell will come true that women will get (they already have) got the license to fuck the world as they please for their comfort.
@JayantKumarZ I don't understand why this whole thing needs to revolve around you. Like who is after you that you are so worried about getting screwed over? Seriously buddy... you need a break. Women don't have the license to eff the world as they please. Where are you getting that from? No one has that right. That is what equality means. No one is saying that women deserve equality alone. Equality is for everyone get that through your head.
@OmniGirlEffect umm no coz once it hits me, it wudve already hit 70% world too, thats why i dont want anything that can create imbalance at all, not that i dont want ny1 to progress, but if it creates an irreversible balance, then it will become hell for real, n none can guarantee reversibility of such a large issue. thats why better to practice charity & development for all coz once u separate, the chances for this chaos are so so increased i cant think of reversing it w/o massacres thats y
@JayantKumarZ men r paid more? eh u nuts? lol ofc if a business(MAN) earns Rs. 10k as salary its ofc greater than the female maid servant he has eh? even if u take 2 equated professions, women can get paid, lol if they go n report the boss na, they can get like 280% increase, if a man goes hes thrown outta his company lol. the problem is not the cases, the problem is the potential of the poewr
@JayantKumarZ You're comparing two diff professions. Compare women to men in the same profession. If India has advanced to a point where men and women are paid the same in the same profession then that's GREAT! But guess what, it's still an existing issue in other parts of the world i.e. Canada and US. Which is why it's still a problem.
@OmniGirlEffect read again girl, ive given 2 equal professions (ie. 2 employees in same company) there too women will go n report to police n get like 300% increase (which does occur here), if a man does they refuse to register his fir lol so dont you think its bout time you change this double standard 1st? ahh nvm that. point is turn this target from 600m girls to all the poor children, (sumwhat 1500million in total?)
@JayantKumarZ People will take advantage of the system. No doubt it happens all the time. But are you suggesting that just because this exists in India... we should stop this movement from helping others in other parts of the world? Clearly there are issues that need to be sorted out in India... but that's not what this is about. Maybe you should start a movement of your own against bhrashtachar. That should take care of the issues you are facing.
@OmniGirlEffect umm no not in india same scenario can be found anywhere once this situation arises. wut situation? overpowered feminism. they dont quit after they get support, no matter what the country is, same scenario follows, altho w/ different chances to occur due to the economical & technological assets. but still... i dont want such insanity to be produced all over the world, absolute hell of injustice n dominance due to an imperfect end of motion for feminine "equality"
@JayantKumarZ WELL like I said... corruption is everywhere and you shouldn't let that spoil it for everyone. Certainly not through means of oppression.
umm i wont agree on the point that men have been keeping with education n health care :P every1 needs it equally, that statement is too invalid for me to be accepted.
@JayantKumarZ again ignorance/rationality w/e u call it drifts me back to "aint there men with adverse conditions too?" so what i basically want is this feminism moment to be redirected for development of all with equal priorities to the "common" problems for specified ones (which exceptionally affect only 1 sex) to be different priorities are needed ok w/ that. But then why i am here is coz i dont want a hell where anyone is hanged/castrated for a fake sexual crime accusation
@JayantKumarZ the power concentration in females of urban sectors is way too dominant to even stand, thats not a direct cause of the moment, but its a side effect, an extension caused due to upliftment in rurals of the particular social group
@JayantKumarZ Have u heard of the saying divide and conquer? I think the overall problem is 2 BIG 2 tackle all at once. This is why we have several movements targeting specific issues. I think the world has tried to address the problem in it's entirety. e.g. Rwanda's gov has tried 2 address poverty. But it didn't have enough resources 2 extend it's support. This is y organizations from other parts of the world are reaching out2 help. There isn't an org. big enough to support the whole country.
@OmniGirlEffect yes thats the problem since there are more than 1 forces (org.) involved... there is a multiplied chance of an imperfect ending to the moment, imperfect endings always brings strong n mass scale vicious cycles... thats why, coz ny1 will grab the chance to be more powerful, then there will be economic instability... again struggles (although later on) but still... thats why i want a perfected balance coz its ok if theres sanity while im alive but its not if i have to live in wars
@JayantKumarZ 1)The thing is, we don't have a perfect solution and historically speaking we never have had a perfect solution to anything in the past. So this is a start. We have to start somewhere. I just think that if you're not part of the solution than you are part of the problem. Everything you have to say is destructive to this "dam" being built. Why not provide something constructive? There seems to be an obvious need for this dam. Since no one can assume what will happen once this dam is
@OmniGirlEffect well but the prob is this dam only supplies water to 1 section.. thats y it needs not be created...
hah yea ofc i m saying that dont promote one, if u have to promote all or else no dont promote. coz i cant stand that much discrimination... if u can... u r inhuman
@JayantKumarZ I can assure you that I am very much human just like you. Have you heard of the trickle down effect? Well even if this dam is open to one section of the village... the benefits of this one dam will trickle down to others. Additionally, I'm sure another organization is working on another dam to supply water to the section this dam is not targeting. Problems are easier to solve if they are narrowed down.
@OmniGirlEffect umm no none, never in the history has openly helped males, else they are blacklisted in society as misogynists, thats the insane double standard society itself that gets in the way
@JayantKumarZ which is the only reason the policies for reservation (esp for f) gets so easily enacted. creates more insanity. not my prob. insane people brought this to themselves but prob is even the sane cant do anything to reverse it for good coz world wont listen.
@JayantKumarZ n every1 suffers that too. thats y i dont even want a balance to be created... law of inertia works here too loi, the momentum doesnt get compensated
@JayantKumarZ So you mean to say that women and men have been treated equally all throughout history? If that were true, than you would be right. If that is still true... prove it,. SHOW ME FACTS. Because I have plenty to back my statement up with. 1) a widowed woman in India can not remarry and must give up her luxuries when her husband dies. 2) dowries are still practices in India labeled as customary practice but is not practiced when it comes to men. 3) Men get paid more in every sector in I
come here sumday theres nothing like that, you are "expected" to give up ur luxuries but thats not followed by a single widow at all lol, u will see widows inheriting their dead husbands land, car, money n living better than usual due to the assets lol. ye dowries are customary, go to the police n get the guy sued lol, this thing has been abusedh ere lately, women reporting fake dowry threats n all.
@JayantKumarZ I am speaking from people's experiences that I know of in India, It may be the case for many women today... but not all... especially those living in poverty. And that is because they lack education. What about victims of rape. The society in India punishes raped women more than they do men. I'm not speaking legally. I'm strictly speaking to the view society has on women that have been raped. They are not accepted. They have no place in the society. Such injustices exist today.
@OmniGirlEffect eh thats true lol so what do u want? all those frowners to be hanged? noob lol. if anyone wants to live w/ shame thats their choice, omg n u dont kno how much feminism has screwed things here, even for false accusation of rape the guy is w/o his justification thrown in jail till his family resents the case n open it in courts. n if a girl kills any harmless man n then claims that he was raping her, she wont even be interrogated, if she is, the feminist groups go strike the police
@JayantKumarZ Like I said... there will always be people trying to get off easily in a system. But that does not mean we stop the system because there are people who are corrupting it. We continue with the system... and implement other factors to control corruption and prevent it. Women who take advantage of men are equally wrong as men who take advantage of women. That is absolutely certain. No one can refute that. But should everyone else suffer because of such people? I think not.
@JayantKumarZ Dominance is achieved if you are aiming for it. I think the driving force behind this movement is to eliminate dominance of all kinds. So I doubt that is how this will end up. And trust me... if we end up in a world where women are dominating men... I will be the first to speak up against that as well. As I'm sure many that oppose the term feminism will too.... This is not a fight for the whole cake. This is a fight to share the cake.
@JayantKumarZ 2) built we are left to at least attempt at improving a problem. Ignoring it will not make it go away. I think there is enough room for all the orgs out there. Because I believe that there is no such thing as too much goodness. So if they are all there to help and improve, than I believe why not? What are you doing to help Jayant? What are you doing other than sitting at your computer and destructing something from being built when we know there is a need? Food for thought.
@OmniGirlEffect umm no i dont do anything... but i dont want anything twisted to happen either coz then my life wud b hell getting nothing when i need n alot like me will be there too... just one section getting their needs fufilled
@JayantKumarZ The problem is that YOU aren't doing anything to help but sit there wasting time by ridiculing others that are. I'm not involved in this particular movement but I am involved in others. I fund-raise money to sponsor villages in developing areas that are in dire need for clean water. For every 10k I raise I am helping a village of 200-250 people get clean drinking water for the next 20 years, What are you doing to help?
now tell me if you accelerate B 600 million times, how do you expect balance to be established? and what about say the 780m boys there? they too r in factories playing w/ melting glass eh? wut about them? thats what i hate. u ignore, no wait u dont ignore 1 section... u only look at 1 section none else
@JayantKumarZ By promoting this to 600million people does not mean that it will be effective to that extent. If the whole world could improve just like that than things would be so much more easier to solve. As well, you're forgetting that there are OTHER movements that balance this one off.
@OmniGirlEffect umm no others work for both sexes equally so its not cancelled in any way. no matter how u look at it it cannot be balanced, that will lead to economical then social dominance & then male life will be hell
@JayantKumarZ SO you are worried that men will be in the reversed condition as women are living in up until today? GOTCHA. Well here's news for you buddy... the definition of equality does not mean dominance over someone else. It means to eliminate dominance. If you're worried about the efforts today resulting in your worst nightmare (which by the way women have been living) than don't worry because we're not out to do on to you as you have on to us. You can sleep in peace now,.
@OmniGirlEffect u may do as u say but a greater proportion wont. therefore the chances of my (as well as 72 crore, ie 720m guys' ) hell are greater than 50% thats why it must be stopped
nyways nuff posted, its 1:26 here n i need a sleep. prolly i might argue ont his sum nother day, but for now talkin w/ u i m a bit calmer, thanks for long talk lol
oh 1 last reply.... when u share the cake ppl snatch it lol n then they smash each other therefor its better to slice it n then give each of em individually than giving em the cake to share. thats wut i want, a dictator or sumthin, distributing assets where they are needed not going under pressure groups n interest policies etc
@JayantKumarZ In a perfect world maybe someday we can all learn to share without having to have a dictator. But then again how can we find such a dictator that we can all agree to trust and not misuse power. Anyways great debating with you. Have a good night.
@ZRadach whom are you explaining? its a feminazi whore u kno... and who am I?
I am sum1 who can think a bit more sanely than those who promote this bullfk like omni and therefore is my duty to try to stop such insane elevations to be created which will as u mentioned, ruin the society
@JayantKumarZ The society that you speak so highly of and one that which you are duty bound to protect is a male dominant society. Why did India break free from British dominance? Because India belonged to Indians and they were being treated unequally in their own country. Why was such a revolution required? Did it not "ruin" a social structure that was defined by the British? Yes it did, because it was not the way Indians wanted to live... under someone's rule.
@OmniGirlEffect neither does anyone else. but if you keep the reservation on forever under the statement "women are still in adverse conditions" that can be applied for males too... every poor, unhygenic, labour is always a woman or what? thats not it thats why. I intend progress for all but at the same time that "none's progress to be hindered" by anything like reservation
@JayantKumarZ That's the thing, this movement is specific to women. But that does not mean that women are more important or that there aren't organizations for others in this world. This is just one of many organizations out there to improve humanity. To improve the quality of life so that we can all live happily and have access to equal opportunities. That's all. The fact is women are in adverse conditions. So are those living with Aids and HIV. And those living without water and food...
@OmniGirlEffect Merely calling "morph995" by names and not backing it with logic and facts and things actually based in reality is absolute nonsense and proves even further why there is a necessity in the world--currently--to educate females.
Supposing that "he" (assuming morph is male... pretty likely) is the reason why "we" (whoever that is) need birth control is wrong. 100% incorrect, young lady. (regardless of age, you are acting like a young person through text.)
@ZRadach Your right I did take his comment personally and my response was a low blow. But had you read the thread, you would realize that I had to dumb it down so that we were speaking the same language. Kind of like what you just did. But thanks for your insight.
human beings are awesome, and there is no reason do not include the female portion... especially when there are more females than males on the planet.
@omegageek64 however humorous that is, it's very untrue
most politicians are considered within that very same catagory
especially successful ones (think about bill clinton vs g w bush... people think clinton [the more effective president] is "slick" whereas people think bush is just "dumb")
I was not referring to Slick Willie's politics, or perceived effectiveness or intelligence. I was referring to his decades long history of abusing the women around him. Have you forgotten all the so-called "bimbo eruptions" that dogged his career? He is a predator who preys on any woman in a subordinate position.
@morph995 I can't talk on every girl's behalf but I'm talking about the girls who actually want to make a difference and they could if they were given a chance. Yes, there are girls out there who have sex without knowing about the consequences of how pregnancy can ruin their life, but this is why organizations like this are made, to help girls avoid doing stupid stuff like that and to guide them down the right path. Look at the statistics of criminals. How many are male vs female? We're crazy?
@ChocoMinaChan There is a huge difference between wanting to do something, and having the initiative to do it. You often see women in the US who have every possible birth-right and advantage, living on welfare and whatnot. I'm from Oklahoma, US and lemme tell you, I knew SOOOOOOOO many women that instead of going to college from their tribe (FREE!!!) they chose to become professional baby-markers. Alimony + tribal allowances = lots of easy money.
@ChocoMinaChan Regarding the reference to criminality... there is a difference between acceptable social behavior and sanity. He is referring to a lack of logic and reasoning skills, not socially-acceptable behavior (not following the law, etc.)
Those are 2 entirely different functions of the human mind. They are NOT pooled into one concept. Men tend to be more AGGRESSIVE because we were the hunters. You were the gatherers/baby makers... but that is then, this is now. Let's make a better future.
@morph995 Women are not stupid, we are just treated as such. Yet, we have the ability to surpass men. We just need the chance; this is organization is giving us it, and starting at girls at a young age so they don't go down the wrong path because of people like you. Call us stupid if you want, but we're smart enough to not care and move on to better things. Enjoy overlooking other important things to the point where you end up, or may already be the stupid one. I am a girl. I am not stupid.
@Socoolgirl94 See, that's what the men here are referring to. It's a style of "preaching". If it is seen as necessary to preach about something, then the evidence likely doesn't support it.
Look at most "churches" including nonAbrahamic ones. They have to "preach" about god because if it weren't for them, you wouldn't every worry about Allegorical books (bible, koran, etc.).
If women were smarter, men would already know... you wouldn't have to tell us. But, I do support the Girl Effect.
@ChocoMinaChan I don't think that on average, in a quantitative way, most women have the ability to surpass most men.
It's just not in your biological makeup. Women's bodies (through evolution) are not nearly as well-equipped to handle psychological or physical stressors as a man's is.... but, in return, you live longer.
So take your pick. longer, easier, simpler, happier life -or- change your phenotype significantly (potentially phenotype as well) and surpass the average man. Cant have both.
The most important result would be the reduction of population in impoverished, overpopulated countries. These are all the same places where all of these problems exist. The key is to prevent people from having children when they don't have resources and opportunities. This is not harsh thinking...this is HUMANE thinking.
Girls AND boys should be given the power to say no. They should PREVENTED from having more girls AND boys whose lives they are going to RUIN.
- i wish people would stop unknowingly embarrass themselves, & research before they ask the same questions over & over & over again....please we have no time for ignorance or to spoon feed anyone.
Micro loans can go to women, who start small businesses. These loans are paid back, and go through lenders organized through small internet ventures. Girls are so often just slaves,easily replaced,little valued. Women are empowered with birth control, & education. Greg Mortensen builds schools in Pakistan, Afghanistan tribal areas & his Central Asia Institute is welcomed because he works w/ tribal elders within their culture. They value educated women, who return to improve their communities.
Why does nobody ask questions? just jump onboard huh?
Do these girls have to pay the money back? if so to who? if so at what interest if any?
the world bank is involved? whoa that can't be good. How much do they get? whats the equivalent amount in dollars? how long would it take for them to make that amount normally? what do they do with the money? what happens when it runs out? who provides support and education for them to make good decisions onwhattodo withthemoney?again:dotheypayinterest?
@looneytune3562 Those ARE the questions that are asked and debated by everyone working to make this effect a reality. The Girl Effect itself is a coalition of individuals and organizations that believe in this philosophy. If you're that concerned, investigate the individual players in this, don't trash the philosophy itself. "Jumping on board," as you put it, is what is spurring thousands of people to action to hopefully improve conditions around the world.
@looneytune3562 Boo. Boo-urns. Are you going to pay back all the millions that have gone into supporting your lifestyle? How'd you enjoy building that computer and the huge offshore Google internet server you use? Enjoying that house that you built with your own hands, and the cow that feeds your whole family? Oh wait. Other people's work and other people's financial success supports pretty much everything you do. How much do you have to pay for basic education? I'm guessing $0, right?
@JayantKumarZ establish* o.o typo
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ your* sry typo lol
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@littlemissgoodgirl96 Men are of more "value" than women to the system--disregarding human creation; which, is very important.
We are both important... but, too often, women use their importance as baby-makers as leverage to have a "license to be insane"
And we're tired of your bullshit.
Start helping the world; stop being dependent on others; START pulling your weight. Education is the START to integrating and being HELPFUL. I'm tired of seeing do-nothing, trophy wives... a worthless lot.
ZRadach 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ what? who are you?
ZRadach 9 months ago
@morph995 When he says "a couple hundred thousand" vs "40 million" he is giving you a HUGE benefit of the doubt. A single mother doing something dumbs is just that... Forcing a child into the world that has disadvantages from the very beginning... in which the women is at cause and could have stopped it from happening at WILL (the percentage occurring from rape is negligible). Also, most men aren't there for "robbing a bank". Most are there for petty, non-violent crimes.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 yes, you can help stupid
if you would like some references i can give you some
(i don't care if you are trolling it will be funny to make a fool of you [seemingly] and thereby people that have a similar argument to yours in a publicly-viewed medium)
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 "women are dumb[...]"
So do something about it.
pick the best way to fix something:
a. sit on youtube and cry like a bitch
b. sit on your ass and do nothing
c. airplane
d. do something about it and help
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 yes, women are "dumb" in many ways. this is true... that is why the "Girl Effect" is so powerful and real (seemingly).
If we strengthen our weakest link instead of just talking shit and pointing out flaws, we can help things go a lot smoother.
Instead of bitching like a little pussy about how many single mothers there are, etc. how about you help do something about it?
Yeah, women are naive... it's how their neurological physiology operates. Let's help it work BETTER.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 I think your views on life are too narrow-minded. No I am not a single mother and it still doesn't change my opinion. You're entitled to your own opinion but I don't agree with the generalization you made about women in your prior statement. Women are not defined by just single parenting. There is more to us BTW being in prison and working at McDonalds is not a direct result of being raised without a father. I think you have a lot to learn.
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@morph995 Lastly, I don't agree that being a single mother out of wedlock is "stupid". There are many women who are more than capable of raising a child without wanting to be in a relationship. Have you heard of a sperm bank? Have you heard of high profile women that make millions of dollars and one day decide that they want to have a baby and nothing more? This is about choice. Women should have the choice to choose what they want for themselves and their life. Just like men.
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect Raising a child out of wedlock isn't "stupid" however it is very destructive and irresponsible. Listening to the primal urge to merely reproduce (biological clock, etc.) instead of logic and reasoning is HIGHLY irresponsible.
The strongest correlation between anything and drug addiction is a boy being raised without their father in their lives. If you want documented data, i can provide it.
Also, the women that raised without assistance are a VERY small percentage of the whole.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 Second of all, your stat on "40 million single mothers" includes widows, separated, divorced, teenagers and a whole slew of other life situations. I suggest U give this video a second look and truly try to understand what it is about before U decide to express a very thoughtless and offensive comment. The Girl Effect is a philosophy and movement that targets women in areas of poverty. By providing education, health, and other resources this movement enables women to have a better life
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect the fact that the 40 million people includes many situations is not too terribly relevant to strengthening the position of your argument. (widows notwithstanding... however I highly doubt it is a very high percentage of the whole... I'll put money on that. How does 100 bucks sound? I'd like to make some easy money...)
There is no reason to restate what the girl effect is... you can just watch the movie. We KNOW what it is. Things like this are WHY he says you are dumb.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ZRadach Clearly this post wasn't for you. It was meant for the individual I was responding to, who I felt didn't quite understand the video or view it (based on my convo with him). But thanks for your two cents and inviting yourself into our conversation.
OmniGirlEffect 10 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect Making the assumption that he doesn't know what it is about and didn't simply WATCH the video makes you look assuming, and naive. I'm not attacking you... I'm merely giving you an observation of how that makes you look in the eyes of others that read your commentary.
Also, the "divorced, separated" etc... get rid of alimony and whatnot, and watch all of the "divorce" and "separated" numbers suddenly go down... I don't have any proof but I strongly believe that to be true.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 First of all, your initial statement was "women are stupid... you can't fix stupid". That's a pretty general statement in which you generalized a whole group of different types of women coming from different situations. Perhaps next time, you should be more specific in what you are saying. Getting knocked up out of wedlock is circumstantial and extremely subjective. How does your above statement defend women who are victims of rape?
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect getting knocked up out of wedlock is not subjective... it is 100% objective.
there is very little personal bias and opinion etc. (usually the difference between subjective and objective) in wedlock. Either they were married or they weren't. Either they allowed themselves to become impregnated, or they didn't. Simple stuff, honey.
Everything is "circumstantial". The circumstance was that the woman was irresponsible, and will bring a child into a very disadvantaged environment.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ZRadach "Everything is "circumstantial". The circumstance was that the woman was irresponsible, and will bring a child into a very disadvantaged environment." How does your statement defend women who are victims of rape? Do you feel the more responsible thing to do is to abort? ..... What about religious and personal beliefs against abortion? Anyways, it's not important. This page should be dedicated to positive comments about this movement.
OmniGirlEffect 10 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect positive force to drag more hell into this world? no thanks. you dont realise what you do. please stop. more power to ignorance turns irrationality into reality. you can live in that irrational world where you women wont be charged even a fine for massacring males. you are inhuman for developing such thoughts, u r insane for promoting such thoughts, and you are a sadist to bring such insanity upon all mankind.
anyhow trust me. stop. you have to. else you'll produce more insanity
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
This is truly a monumental moment for the third wave of feminism.
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect feminism is destructive... anything that supports one side over another is biased and destructive to humanity.
no side is "better" they are just "different". However, the current value system does place men on a higher level of "value". HOWEVER, women are physically superior in most ways as far as longevity and overall health goes.
Nothing comes without it's drawbacks and benefits. This is how life works... get used to it; that's how it is whether you like it or not.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ZRadach If you had studied Feminism (AT ALL) you would realize that it's not about supporting one side over the other. It's about equality despite race, gender and sexual preference. I don't understand how you interpreted my comment as "women" are better than "men" or whatever. The point is, we are all equals and we're working to achieve equality.
OmniGirlEffect 10 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect you're right
i looked it up... gotcha.
thx for setting me straight on that
ZRadach 10 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect you omni, are a fker u kno...
"we are all equals and we're working to achieve equality. " my ass... keep your feministic excuse with yourself, never true, can never be true, and is not true either
I kno now some other ass reading this will throw sh1t at me... go ahead
"we are equals" then why promote women at all? promote every1 na? but dont worry i cannot blame you women (ofc u r 1) who would like to lose one's overpowering rights huh? u ppl have created 64% reservation already
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ By Faker are you implying faker or fukcer. Just wanted to clarify. Clearly your view lacks historical context. If men and women were viewed equally then there would be no need to address equality. Similarly, if coloured and white people were viewed equally then why did America need a revolution to equalize rights between black people and white people? So how can you say that my statement is not true based on facts? I don't care for your opinion, as this debate is not about opinion.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect history? thats the problem you ignorant rats keep bitching about history and dont let any progress. What i m saying is everything needs to be developed, not that there are 2 objects A & B living together and A has been better till now so now A must be terminated till B catches up. no thats not the way. you must let both A & B run, yes you are free to accelerate B but not retard A
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ ahh wait.... sorry for "rats" :P
got too carried away there... sorry :P
but the point is still the same, accelerate those you like but not so much that they exceed and then too you keep accelerating, coz that creates imbalance n brings misery (not to the one being accelerated ofc) but still
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I don't understanding your constant need to demean women. Rats? Come on... grow up! No one is suggesting that A needs to be stopped or A needs to lax until B catches up. A is progressing... and A will continue to do so. B needs more work. Which is why the focus is on B in this video. There are MANY organizations out there. It's not like the world just came up with THIS ONE and forgot about men and many others. Go do some research and then bring your facts,
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect you decelerate A but. validity never demands facts. if you do then you dont need to be given any facts either...
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ We can not be certain about something without facts. Validity is defined by facts. Knowledge can only be verified through facts. By just saying "I have cancer" does not make it true. Having cancer is determined through tests that validate this finding. Is that not true? Do you not think that facts are a necessary condition to validating your argument?
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect thats why, if concentration hits high enough that it can influence forces, it will be legally impossible, coz ignorants wont listen n deny everything to others, only way left will be strikes which will be brutally suppressed
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ So what do you suggest? Why not share your insight on how we can sustain equality between men and women in terms of access to health care and education? What organization should we form to help everyone? What is YOUR solution to the problems we are facing in developing countries? How do YOU propose we decrease the spreading of Aids? You have so much to say against this. Why don't you provide a solution?
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect thats what i am thinking at the moment lol but i kno that whats going on can lead to a greater hell... yes i kno if a dam is being constructed i cant go n tell em to stop coz of its consequences unless i have a reason better than the progress which can be brought... but on comparision if i find dam more harmful, i must go n stop em regardless of whether i have a solution or not thats y we need everyone to think this out than just doing w/e one feels like w/ random justifications
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ even if i see that it will be in the good for one & bad for another... but then the question which is thrown is... what if does good for beggar & bad to the rich; ofc that will but thats untill they both are satisfied... what if the rich are overthrown during the growth of beggar? that sum questions i too want to kno a satisfactory answer to
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ those r sum* too big typo there
seems like i need sum rest
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Also, I would like to know what this 64% reservation is related to. This movement is set out to promote opportunities to women in areas where women don 't have access to health care, education and overall well being. Targeting a specific group leads to overall improved living conditions for everyone. So in essence it is promoting everyone and not specifically women. Look at the way you are referencing your comment, "you... women". So u are doing exactly what you are accusing me of.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect a bit truth there (did made a lil mistake there due to ignorance) but only a bit. if u think that reservation or services to only 1 sector raises their level then u r seriously mistaken... u may culture pigeons by giving them more food, but u do not culture pigeons by giving food only to them k? when u understand that point then only expect further reply
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I agree to your pigeon analogy but who is saying that others are not being assisted as well/ There are many other programs that have been successfully administered in these areas. It's just that they have been unsuccessful in addressing women. That is why they are promoting women in this specific campaign. They realized that men have been keeping up with education and health care. But women are major carriers of HIV and AIDS. So the system can not be improved unless women r helped
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect i see a bit of your point but then the problem is there are ppl who want to abuse this power, take the pigeon only if hes insane, he sure wud luv others to die n get everything himself there are ignorant selfish ppl too. My concern is that this upliftment, if misused, will bring grave effects like equality struggles which will cause sever destruction thats the major concern too... but that can be stopped... thats why i want to fix this problem so that the upcoming event may stop
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Those types of people exist everywhere and it is something we can not control. So are we to say that because of these people we should stop doing things that could potentially benefit those who are more deserving? NO?! There are so many organizations out there to help improve impoverished areas. Just because there is an org. to prevent AIDs does not mean people that don't have AIDs are not as important. Everyone is. Unfortunately as a society we only go after the worst problem.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
I see no point in convincing 1 person and influence another who reads this.
If every1 becomes this ignorant, then all must be terminated.
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Then you my friend would have been a British man's kutha. If India didn't fight for freedom and equality, India would have still been under British rule (To them everyone who joined Mahatma Gandhi was ignorant and should have been terminated) So I don't understand why ur so resistant to a cause that is promoting improvement. Forget that it's about women. Because there are many causes for so many other groups. It seems that you are against all causes. Unless ur included as well.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect i m not concerned about what you will do will affect me or not. but since your moment has a greater chance to worsen the situation than to improve... its better to resent it now before its too late
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ If it doesn't concern than why be bothered? Don't you have something better to do with your time? If it doesn't concern you than why are you stopping something that could potentially HELP others? Because I do not think that you or I know what could come from such a cause. So why not allow it to flourish and see what happens next? Why be so skeptical?
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect no the prob is not the current upliftment, its the consequence it will bring, overconcentration of power will ofc lead to dominance but this time of 1 entire sex ie. so the hell will come true that women will get (they already have) got the license to fuck the world as they please for their comfort.
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I don't understand why this whole thing needs to revolve around you. Like who is after you that you are so worried about getting screwed over? Seriously buddy... you need a break. Women don't have the license to eff the world as they please. Where are you getting that from? No one has that right. That is what equality means. No one is saying that women deserve equality alone. Equality is for everyone get that through your head.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect umm no coz once it hits me, it wudve already hit 70% world too, thats why i dont want anything that can create imbalance at all, not that i dont want ny1 to progress, but if it creates an irreversible balance, then it will become hell for real, n none can guarantee reversibility of such a large issue. thats why better to practice charity & development for all coz once u separate, the chances for this chaos are so so increased i cant think of reversing it w/o massacres thats y
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ men r paid more? eh u nuts? lol ofc if a business(MAN) earns Rs. 10k as salary its ofc greater than the female maid servant he has eh? even if u take 2 equated professions, women can get paid, lol if they go n report the boss na, they can get like 280% increase, if a man goes hes thrown outta his company lol. the problem is not the cases, the problem is the potential of the poewr
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ You're comparing two diff professions. Compare women to men in the same profession. If India has advanced to a point where men and women are paid the same in the same profession then that's GREAT! But guess what, it's still an existing issue in other parts of the world i.e. Canada and US. Which is why it's still a problem.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect read again girl, ive given 2 equal professions (ie. 2 employees in same company) there too women will go n report to police n get like 300% increase (which does occur here), if a man does they refuse to register his fir lol so dont you think its bout time you change this double standard 1st? ahh nvm that. point is turn this target from 600m girls to all the poor children, (sumwhat 1500million in total?)
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ People will take advantage of the system. No doubt it happens all the time. But are you suggesting that just because this exists in India... we should stop this movement from helping others in other parts of the world? Clearly there are issues that need to be sorted out in India... but that's not what this is about. Maybe you should start a movement of your own against bhrashtachar. That should take care of the issues you are facing.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect umm no not in india same scenario can be found anywhere once this situation arises. wut situation? overpowered feminism. they dont quit after they get support, no matter what the country is, same scenario follows, altho w/ different chances to occur due to the economical & technological assets. but still... i dont want such insanity to be produced all over the world, absolute hell of injustice n dominance due to an imperfect end of motion for feminine "equality"
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ WELL like I said... corruption is everywhere and you shouldn't let that spoil it for everyone. Certainly not through means of oppression.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
umm i wont agree on the point that men have been keeping with education n health care :P every1 needs it equally, that statement is too invalid for me to be accepted.
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ again ignorance/rationality w/e u call it drifts me back to "aint there men with adverse conditions too?" so what i basically want is this feminism moment to be redirected for development of all with equal priorities to the "common" problems for specified ones (which exceptionally affect only 1 sex) to be different priorities are needed ok w/ that. But then why i am here is coz i dont want a hell where anyone is hanged/castrated for a fake sexual crime accusation
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ which things already seem to be going towards...
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ the power concentration in females of urban sectors is way too dominant to even stand, thats not a direct cause of the moment, but its a side effect, an extension caused due to upliftment in rurals of the particular social group
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Have u heard of the saying divide and conquer? I think the overall problem is 2 BIG 2 tackle all at once. This is why we have several movements targeting specific issues. I think the world has tried to address the problem in it's entirety. e.g. Rwanda's gov has tried 2 address poverty. But it didn't have enough resources 2 extend it's support. This is y organizations from other parts of the world are reaching out2 help. There isn't an org. big enough to support the whole country.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect yes thats the problem since there are more than 1 forces (org.) involved... there is a multiplied chance of an imperfect ending to the moment, imperfect endings always brings strong n mass scale vicious cycles... thats why, coz ny1 will grab the chance to be more powerful, then there will be economic instability... again struggles (although later on) but still... thats why i want a perfected balance coz its ok if theres sanity while im alive but its not if i have to live in wars
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ 1)The thing is, we don't have a perfect solution and historically speaking we never have had a perfect solution to anything in the past. So this is a start. We have to start somewhere. I just think that if you're not part of the solution than you are part of the problem. Everything you have to say is destructive to this "dam" being built. Why not provide something constructive? There seems to be an obvious need for this dam. Since no one can assume what will happen once this dam is
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect well but the prob is this dam only supplies water to 1 section.. thats y it needs not be created...
hah yea ofc i m saying that dont promote one, if u have to promote all or else no dont promote. coz i cant stand that much discrimination... if u can... u r inhuman
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I can assure you that I am very much human just like you. Have you heard of the trickle down effect? Well even if this dam is open to one section of the village... the benefits of this one dam will trickle down to others. Additionally, I'm sure another organization is working on another dam to supply water to the section this dam is not targeting. Problems are easier to solve if they are narrowed down.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect umm no none, never in the history has openly helped males, else they are blacklisted in society as misogynists, thats the insane double standard society itself that gets in the way
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ which is the only reason the policies for reservation (esp for f) gets so easily enacted. creates more insanity. not my prob. insane people brought this to themselves but prob is even the sane cant do anything to reverse it for good coz world wont listen.
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ n every1 suffers that too. thats y i dont even want a balance to be created... law of inertia works here too loi, the momentum doesnt get compensated
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ So you mean to say that women and men have been treated equally all throughout history? If that were true, than you would be right. If that is still true... prove it,. SHOW ME FACTS. Because I have plenty to back my statement up with. 1) a widowed woman in India can not remarry and must give up her luxuries when her husband dies. 2) dowries are still practices in India labeled as customary practice but is not practiced when it comes to men. 3) Men get paid more in every sector in I
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect who said that to you? lol
come here sumday theres nothing like that, you are "expected" to give up ur luxuries but thats not followed by a single widow at all lol, u will see widows inheriting their dead husbands land, car, money n living better than usual due to the assets lol. ye dowries are customary, go to the police n get the guy sued lol, this thing has been abusedh ere lately, women reporting fake dowry threats n all.
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ I am speaking from people's experiences that I know of in India, It may be the case for many women today... but not all... especially those living in poverty. And that is because they lack education. What about victims of rape. The society in India punishes raped women more than they do men. I'm not speaking legally. I'm strictly speaking to the view society has on women that have been raped. They are not accepted. They have no place in the society. Such injustices exist today.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect eh thats true lol so what do u want? all those frowners to be hanged? noob lol. if anyone wants to live w/ shame thats their choice, omg n u dont kno how much feminism has screwed things here, even for false accusation of rape the guy is w/o his justification thrown in jail till his family resents the case n open it in courts. n if a girl kills any harmless man n then claims that he was raping her, she wont even be interrogated, if she is, the feminist groups go strike the police
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Like I said... there will always be people trying to get off easily in a system. But that does not mean we stop the system because there are people who are corrupting it. We continue with the system... and implement other factors to control corruption and prevent it. Women who take advantage of men are equally wrong as men who take advantage of women. That is absolutely certain. No one can refute that. But should everyone else suffer because of such people? I think not.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect n this injustice becomes an economical factor n then once the upliftment is done, it becomes irreversible dominance
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ Dominance is achieved if you are aiming for it. I think the driving force behind this movement is to eliminate dominance of all kinds. So I doubt that is how this will end up. And trust me... if we end up in a world where women are dominating men... I will be the first to speak up against that as well. As I'm sure many that oppose the term feminism will too.... This is not a fight for the whole cake. This is a fight to share the cake.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ 2) built we are left to at least attempt at improving a problem. Ignoring it will not make it go away. I think there is enough room for all the orgs out there. Because I believe that there is no such thing as too much goodness. So if they are all there to help and improve, than I believe why not? What are you doing to help Jayant? What are you doing other than sitting at your computer and destructing something from being built when we know there is a need? Food for thought.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect umm no i dont do anything... but i dont want anything twisted to happen either coz then my life wud b hell getting nothing when i need n alot like me will be there too... just one section getting their needs fufilled
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ The problem is that YOU aren't doing anything to help but sit there wasting time by ridiculing others that are. I'm not involved in this particular movement but I am involved in others. I fund-raise money to sponsor villages in developing areas that are in dire need for clean water. For every 10k I raise I am helping a village of 200-250 people get clean drinking water for the next 20 years, What are you doing to help?
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
ofc thats the prob you ppl are increasing the chance for such struggles, but on a global scale as it includes greatest classification of sex
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
now tell me if you accelerate B 600 million times, how do you expect balance to be established? and what about say the 780m boys there? they too r in factories playing w/ melting glass eh? wut about them? thats what i hate. u ignore, no wait u dont ignore 1 section... u only look at 1 section none else
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ By promoting this to 600million people does not mean that it will be effective to that extent. If the whole world could improve just like that than things would be so much more easier to solve. As well, you're forgetting that there are OTHER movements that balance this one off.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect umm no others work for both sexes equally so its not cancelled in any way. no matter how u look at it it cannot be balanced, that will lead to economical then social dominance & then male life will be hell
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ SO you are worried that men will be in the reversed condition as women are living in up until today? GOTCHA. Well here's news for you buddy... the definition of equality does not mean dominance over someone else. It means to eliminate dominance. If you're worried about the efforts today resulting in your worst nightmare (which by the way women have been living) than don't worry because we're not out to do on to you as you have on to us. You can sleep in peace now,.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect u may do as u say but a greater proportion wont. therefore the chances of my (as well as 72 crore, ie 720m guys' ) hell are greater than 50% thats why it must be stopped
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
nyways nuff posted, its 1:26 here n i need a sleep. prolly i might argue ont his sum nother day, but for now talkin w/ u i m a bit calmer, thanks for long talk lol
oh 1 last reply.... when u share the cake ppl snatch it lol n then they smash each other therefor its better to slice it n then give each of em individually than giving em the cake to share. thats wut i want, a dictator or sumthin, distributing assets where they are needed not going under pressure groups n interest policies etc
nite
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ In a perfect world maybe someday we can all learn to share without having to have a dictator. But then again how can we find such a dictator that we can all agree to trust and not misuse power. Anyways great debating with you. Have a good night.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
seems like i m bk lol
still it must be targeting all poor children. no replies expected/wanted
nite :P
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@ZRadach whom are you explaining? its a feminazi whore u kno... and who am I?
I am sum1 who can think a bit more sanely than those who promote this bullfk like omni and therefore is my duty to try to stop such insane elevations to be created which will as u mentioned, ruin the society
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ The society that you speak so highly of and one that which you are duty bound to protect is a male dominant society. Why did India break free from British dominance? Because India belonged to Indians and they were being treated unequally in their own country. Why was such a revolution required? Did it not "ruin" a social structure that was defined by the British? Yes it did, because it was not the way Indians wanted to live... under someone's rule.
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect neither does anyone else. but if you keep the reservation on forever under the statement "women are still in adverse conditions" that can be applied for males too... every poor, unhygenic, labour is always a woman or what? thats not it thats why. I intend progress for all but at the same time that "none's progress to be hindered" by anything like reservation
JayantKumarZ 9 months ago
@JayantKumarZ That's the thing, this movement is specific to women. But that does not mean that women are more important or that there aren't organizations for others in this world. This is just one of many organizations out there to improve humanity. To improve the quality of life so that we can all live happily and have access to equal opportunities. That's all. The fact is women are in adverse conditions. So are those living with Aids and HIV. And those living without water and food...
OmniGirlEffect 9 months ago
@morph995 Why do people like you exist? Suppose you're the reason why we need birth control. Ignorant fool.
OmniGirlEffect 11 months ago
@OmniGirlEffect Merely calling "morph995" by names and not backing it with logic and facts and things actually based in reality is absolute nonsense and proves even further why there is a necessity in the world--currently--to educate females.
Supposing that "he" (assuming morph is male... pretty likely) is the reason why "we" (whoever that is) need birth control is wrong. 100% incorrect, young lady. (regardless of age, you are acting like a young person through text.)
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ZRadach Your right I did take his comment personally and my response was a low blow. But had you read the thread, you would realize that I had to dumb it down so that we were speaking the same language. Kind of like what you just did. But thanks for your insight.
OmniGirlEffect 10 months ago
Men are better
mostwantedb0y 11 months ago
@mostwantedb0y In most ways, yes.
ZRadach 10 months ago
Women are awesome.
Sereniama 11 months ago
@Sereniama yes, men and women are awesome.
human beings are awesome, and there is no reason do not include the female portion... especially when there are more females than males on the planet.
ZRadach 10 months ago
The smartest thing you can do for your girls is keep them away from Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton.
omegageek64 11 months ago
@omegageek64 however humorous that is, it's very untrue
most politicians are considered within that very same catagory
especially successful ones (think about bill clinton vs g w bush... people think clinton [the more effective president] is "slick" whereas people think bush is just "dumb")
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ZRadach
I was not referring to Slick Willie's politics, or perceived effectiveness or intelligence. I was referring to his decades long history of abusing the women around him. Have you forgotten all the so-called "bimbo eruptions" that dogged his career? He is a predator who preys on any woman in a subordinate position.
omegageek64 10 months ago
@morph995 I can't talk on every girl's behalf but I'm talking about the girls who actually want to make a difference and they could if they were given a chance. Yes, there are girls out there who have sex without knowing about the consequences of how pregnancy can ruin their life, but this is why organizations like this are made, to help girls avoid doing stupid stuff like that and to guide them down the right path. Look at the statistics of criminals. How many are male vs female? We're crazy?
ChocoMinaChan 11 months ago
@ChocoMinaChan There is a huge difference between wanting to do something, and having the initiative to do it. You often see women in the US who have every possible birth-right and advantage, living on welfare and whatnot. I'm from Oklahoma, US and lemme tell you, I knew SOOOOOOOO many women that instead of going to college from their tribe (FREE!!!) they chose to become professional baby-markers. Alimony + tribal allowances = lots of easy money.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ChocoMinaChan Regarding the reference to criminality... there is a difference between acceptable social behavior and sanity. He is referring to a lack of logic and reasoning skills, not socially-acceptable behavior (not following the law, etc.)
Those are 2 entirely different functions of the human mind. They are NOT pooled into one concept. Men tend to be more AGGRESSIVE because we were the hunters. You were the gatherers/baby makers... but that is then, this is now. Let's make a better future.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@morph995 Women are not stupid, we are just treated as such. Yet, we have the ability to surpass men. We just need the chance; this is organization is giving us it, and starting at girls at a young age so they don't go down the wrong path because of people like you. Call us stupid if you want, but we're smart enough to not care and move on to better things. Enjoy overlooking other important things to the point where you end up, or may already be the stupid one. I am a girl. I am not stupid.
ChocoMinaChan 11 months ago
@ChocoMinaChan PREACH ON SISTA! :D
Socoolgirl94 11 months ago
@Socoolgirl94 Thanks, you too! X3
ChocoMinaChan 11 months ago
@Socoolgirl94 See, that's what the men here are referring to. It's a style of "preaching". If it is seen as necessary to preach about something, then the evidence likely doesn't support it.
Look at most "churches" including nonAbrahamic ones. They have to "preach" about god because if it weren't for them, you wouldn't every worry about Allegorical books (bible, koran, etc.).
If women were smarter, men would already know... you wouldn't have to tell us. But, I do support the Girl Effect.
ZRadach 10 months ago
@ChocoMinaChan I don't think that on average, in a quantitative way, most women have the ability to surpass most men.
It's just not in your biological makeup. Women's bodies (through evolution) are not nearly as well-equipped to handle psychological or physical stressors as a man's is.... but, in return, you live longer.
So take your pick. longer, easier, simpler, happier life -or- change your phenotype significantly (potentially phenotype as well) and surpass the average man. Cant have both.
ZRadach 10 months ago
The most important result would be the reduction of population in impoverished, overpopulated countries. These are all the same places where all of these problems exist. The key is to prevent people from having children when they don't have resources and opportunities. This is not harsh thinking...this is HUMANE thinking.
Girls AND boys should be given the power to say no. They should PREVENTED from having more girls AND boys whose lives they are going to RUIN.
cmpilot 11 months ago
- i wish people would stop unknowingly embarrass themselves, & research before they ask the same questions over & over & over again....please we have no time for ignorance or to spoon feed anyone.
CocoFreckle 1 year ago
Micro loans can go to women, who start small businesses. These loans are paid back, and go through lenders organized through small internet ventures. Girls are so often just slaves,easily replaced,little valued. Women are empowered with birth control, & education. Greg Mortensen builds schools in Pakistan, Afghanistan tribal areas & his Central Asia Institute is welcomed because he works w/ tribal elders within their culture. They value educated women, who return to improve their communities.
sabymoon 1 year ago
@sabymoon very well said
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ZRadach 10 months ago
GIRLS LEARN INTERNATIONAL!!!!!
Ngt15 1 year ago
Why does nobody ask questions? just jump onboard huh?
Do these girls have to pay the money back? if so to who? if so at what interest if any?
the world bank is involved? whoa that can't be good. How much do they get? whats the equivalent amount in dollars? how long would it take for them to make that amount normally? what do they do with the money? what happens when it runs out? who provides support and education for them to make good decisions onwhattodo withthemoney?again:dotheypayinterest?
looneytune3562 1 year ago
@looneytune3562 Those ARE the questions that are asked and debated by everyone working to make this effect a reality. The Girl Effect itself is a coalition of individuals and organizations that believe in this philosophy. If you're that concerned, investigate the individual players in this, don't trash the philosophy itself. "Jumping on board," as you put it, is what is spurring thousands of people to action to hopefully improve conditions around the world.
xpoisonmuffinx 1 year ago
@looneytune3562 Boo. Boo-urns. Are you going to pay back all the millions that have gone into supporting your lifestyle? How'd you enjoy building that computer and the huge offshore Google internet server you use? Enjoying that house that you built with your own hands, and the cow that feeds your whole family? Oh wait. Other people's work and other people's financial success supports pretty much everything you do. How much do you have to pay for basic education? I'm guessing $0, right?
taraseguin 1 year ago
@looneytune3562 wow, you got owned. seriously.
ZRadach 10 months ago