10/Gui Multi touch Operating System

[h4x0y]

A very creative and fresh approach to the GUI.

[mathsquare]

i don't like this.

[leviath369]

How about me? I only have 9 fingers!!!

[arf900]

*Cough* Mac OS Lion (full screen apps)

[luigiman83]

I like the idea a lot, but I'd really need to try it first. I played with a Macbook Pro once, and the built in track pad was awesome.

[MarinoVargas]

And now..i can see my son making fun of me for not being able to use a con10uum system -_-"

[ilovepancakeswithjam]

really? you guys need to think about this- i wouldnt want to use both my right hand and my unpracticed left hand to move one window arround. -but keep up the work, this has great potensial. look into windows 7. its the best

[Rileybdarby503]

@ilovepancakeswithjam Actually, it's already in OS X Lion. :P

[ilovepancakeswithjam]

@Rileybdarby503 urgh os. stuffs nasty

[krisdestruction]

This is simply genius! Redefining the input ergonomics to adapt drag and drop into the operating system is critical. It will help in removing the barriers in finding an intuitive UI and improve productivity at the same time.

[Jasoco]

I just realized that Mac OS X Lion is basically using this exact metaphor. It has the dashboard (Though it's its own screen). It has each app (Fullscreen) in its own screen. You flick with four fingers to switch between them. Swipe to show all of the apps and windows you have open. Whoever designed this must have seen the future because Lion is basically this GUI brought to the masses.

[tjohnston17]

keyboard placement is a bit awkward, but i cant think of another place for it either. maybe touch keyboard only?

[nbwshowtime]

I think it's incredible. I work with 10 to 20 screens open daily. I continuously have to jump around. It would take some getting use to but in the end it would be well worth it. I'd love to try it in CAD. I think the feature set needs to be expanded. Sometimes you need to view and access 4 or more screens at a time. So being able to start multiple rows would be useful. Also locking one row or more.

Also the touch pad should be smaller. Too much movement will cause strain.

[jawa1802]

The concept is amazing, but the UI looks a bit... chunky? The sideways letters are a slight problem - it makes things slightly harder to read at a fast speed.

[Adrastos34]

Cool concept and I can see how it would be useful. For me though its something I could not get much use out of as a standard interface. I can't see this thing working with games very well if ever. You could argue that pc gaming is a dying industry anyways but I can't see it going away anytime soon.

[bathellfire]

Good idea, but only when dealing with 1 app at the time.

I, as a software and graphics developer use 4-5 apps at the same time and i need to switch between them really fast (and it's not always that i need them in the same sequence). So this GUI wont work in my case.

[aet08]

nice

[Hitman47PL]

It's a good idea but it's way too complicated. 2 fingers to do this.. 3 to do that. WTF? The software would need to be smart enough to almost.. read your mind.

Why reprogram the human mind to allow the computer to understand? Program the computer to understand the human mind.

[grimmfoamy]

So a bigger multi-touchpad and a fancy kde interface? That's it? That's the f*ing innovation?

[FrankyJrBlondeel]

this looks promising, it's a great idea, but i believe it'll need some tuning to be a succes

[RyTrapp0]

instead of forcing me to use the horizontal window stacking, make it optional. maybe other options too, like vertical stacking or a grid. personally, i would prefer the current messy style of organization.

also, i would reduce the hand pad to just 1 hand(like we have just 1 mouse), or make the 2 hand pad optional.

basically, just remove as many limitations as possible and give people as many options as possible. the more flexible the better.

[MarioLegend]

This, a tablet pen, and voice command would sell it for me. This is actually ingenious! I can use my fingers to navigate, my pen to draw and work on graphic designing, and voice command slighted needed if things get a bit hairy with so many windows open to call on the application like Photoshop or Maya. 

[iseeingi2i]

there are some flaws i can see with this if you have a larger screen this could be an issue getting a 1:1 scale pad i feel the next GUI is more in the direction of kinect style minority report wave your hands in thin air type even eye tracking to use the mouse when your arms get tired or you dont need multi touch maybe neural wave linking even

[ContraVeneno]

@iseeingi2i mmmm... try that "minority report" waving for 30 minutes and then imagine an 8 to 12 hours work a day... did you see the part of the video when they talk about pointing your fingers at the screen?

[iseeingi2i]

@ContraVeneno ill rip on you the way tried to rip on me

mmmm... try that reading thing again for a few more seconds on my post and you would have seen my solution but you decided to rip on me instead also you could be resting your arms on a desk and just simply move your fingers if you had a basic comprehension of what i was saying you would know that kinect would indicate full body tracking therefore you could even just rest your arms on a desk and wave your fingers around. . .fucker

[eldiablo858585]

that's why the magic trackpad has been introduce ? :) 

[XxliveitupxX]

This makes a lot of sense, like the experience of using your whole seems just simple yet amazing. But I don't think this will eliminate the touch screen especially for art and drawing apps.

[mraccident]

Lets start with a problem in this GUI: How do you switch to typing?

Now let's compare - My interaction with the computer isn't limited to a single point! There is the keyboard and it hes it's shortcuts, so here goes your whole theory.

There are even mouse "shortcuts" - Closing a full size window is right in the corner so I don't need to locate the little X button (or ctrl-W). The same with the scroll bar.

The thumbnails view and the rest doesn't seem to be faster when I compare to what I do now.

[iseeingi2i]

@mraccident yes the entire basis of apple and linux and windows oses are on a single focal point and if you noticed or at least watched the entire video there was a keyboard there as well

[mraccident]

@iseeingi2i I said that My interaction with the computer isn't limited to a single point.

Yes you can use only the mouse like some people do, but it's your own choice.

[iseeingi2i]

@mraccident input device doesnt matter it still only has one focal point on the screen you cannot under any circumstances be actually operating in multiple windows at the exact same time understand the difference between focal point and interaction and then get back with me

[mraccident]

@iseeingi2i A regular human cannot do several tasks at the same time so it doesn't matter with how many windows he can interact at the same time.

After watching the second time - I conclude once more that I see not a single thing that I gain by this new system.

Hope it's clear enough.

[iseeingi2i]

@mraccident i can multi task that way i can be writing two things at once i can play four games of brick breaker so im the exception that proves your point invalid and i never said that this os was good it needs to be better

[mraccident]

@iseeingi2i What you said is not logical. If you're the exception - it proves that I'm right. This OS is not the answer. I think - a little more programming (apps) can make everything more efficient; and if still not efficient enough - some more programming.

I'm not saying that the current cannot be improved, but this isn't an improvement.

[iseeingi2i]

@mraccident i just realized we are saying the same thing but using a different median to do so you want more powerful apps i want a multi focal input point OS neither of which is an unreasonable task to ask for lets leave it at the os in general (not this one but every os mind you) needs vast improvement but this is sadly not the answer

[mraccident]

@iseeingi2i Hum... I guess you're right.

[ihavegreenapples]

Handling windows makes more sense with 5 fingers.

[ihavegreenapples]

It pleases me on how the people who made this have thought of something like screen obstruction with your hands. This is good design.

[dlupascupruna]

I think this is a revolutionary move. I like the idea of moving towards a multi-touch interface.

The only thing I have to object is the way information is displayed. there's gotta be a better way to display data. maybe we need to look for another paradigm. the "windows" paradigm is awesome but it comes with its own restrictions.

I'm very curious if 10GUI is going to be a paradigm in computing.

[BestTypoEver]

This idea fails hard.

If anything it will reduce workflow, the mouse uses one hand - not two. This is more of a pain in the ass than anything else...

I can't see this being precise at all. What if the user has fat or stuby fingers?

Bottom Line: Don't try to fix something that doesn't need fixing.

[antoin654]

@BestTypoEver, Your vision of GUI is extremely one dimensional... From reverting from an already multitouch QWERTY keyboard to a single point-and-select system helped keep die hards from ever delving into GUI computing. I'd be happy to have this system with just a keyboard, even if there wasn't a multitouch screen, full screen apps stacked makes more sense than randomly stacked windows... If you don't want to progress, then don't... Troglodyte.

[BestTypoEver]

@antoin654 I see your point and I understand why some would like it. I really don't mind the taskbar though especially in win 7. I don't care how the windows stack up because the taskbar is always accessible and quick.

I've never ever had to 'sort through a pile to find a window' especially browser windows. Its one click on the taskbar and then simply scrolling through my tabs, since when do people open a new browser window for every page?

I just find this new APP system very cluttered.

[Rileybdarby503]

I really can see Apple implementing this in some new Mac/iOS platform such as the new iMacs/Macbooks. It just looks... beautiful. 

[kitfaaace]

@Rileybdarby503 and something very similar has happened in Lion! I hope whoever did the 10/GUI got some money from Apple for the whole slidey thing.

[Randomocity0812]

I just cant buy into this idea, it feels unrefined and overly complicated. Removing the mouse seems like a great idea at first, but at the end of the day I just cant see this ever replacing the standard mode of operation of a computer. I can do 90% of those tasks in half the time using a mouse and keyboard instead of trying to figure out where my fingers are in relation to the pad and what to do with them. Nice try, but you're about 40 years from anything substantial.

[Capnbritish]

I think this is a really interesting idea but to be honest I don't see it replacing the standard UI any time soon, sure multi touch interfaces are becoming far more prominent, and I'd love to see this sort of touch pad technology implemented into Windows, but after almost 20 years of the "Windows" interface, are we really going to let it go that easy?

I'd certainly be willing to try it though.

[nhelven]

hp's way of a webOS Desktop OS.... sweet

[MountApple]

It just sucks if you have no fingers

[arf900]

Nice, alot of people wouldnt be willing to move to it though. People wouldnt be able to survive without their mouses no matter how many iphones apple sells.

[anubis9109]

I have to disagree a bit with con10uum. I believe that eye tracking technology will be a better solution to effectively navigating through windows and applications. Sense people will tend to look at what they are doing, by using eye tracking technology, the ability for the computer to interpret what the user wants to do will help the user by automating some of the things that the user would normally have to resort to mouse and keyboard techniques. a 3d mixed with this can use location memory

[Thebignoobshow]

@anubis9109 Your eye is weak, man, you will be blind after using it for a month.

[samsarahsd]

I prefer the concept create in 2007 by HB Improving

[Thebignoobshow]

@samsarahsd .... HB improving... it saids in the video, the keyboard is lighting. and the pad thing in this video is not.

So your neck will be tired? and you have two screens, one on your hands and one on your monitor, how would it be able to control and look at two screens? It brings up inconvinence.

[vampirnata]

Nice presentation but I don't see any advantage to this... In fact even if one were to get used to the multitouch navigation I still think that the mouse would be faster.

The old saying stands: If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!

[Nightrider1367]

@vampirnata Yes and no. I think that there are probably some people out there who feel constrained by the mouse and want to be able to do more with their hands. They want something that is more "tangible." The fact that there is a 1:1 interface in front of the screen allows for quite a few possibilities. Sure the system isn't perfect and at this stage not very effective, but this right here is something that my kids will probably grow up using.

[CommandKey]

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

[Jarrahs24]

@CommandKey American Psycho Much ?

[ElecTricityMaker]

I'm just going to stick with my keyboard and mouse. It really does work great.

[oliverano95]

The hardware would be far better if it wouldn't have the keyboard. and with that you could have al touchsensetiv. and would have a lot more space where u could work on. a great example would be a laptop but the part wher the keyboard and the touchpad i could be replaced with the touch panel and then u could work without any problem bith bouth hands.

[wpmills]

@herztotart Wow! really insightful thoughts there.

The one issue I could see is that the application specific actions should be on the right hand side as this is the current paradigm. It'd ease the shock of a new user to keep this consistency.

[TheSerpico97]

@wpmills Ha ha, I love your comment.

[speier]

This guy sounds so smug, and the music is gay as HELL.

[asantos]

im gonna ask the obvious: what happens if someone lost a few fingers in an accident?

[Ne0nLiteZ]

@asantos then they use the other ones?

thats like asking how am i supposed to ride a bike if i lost my legs? you dont.

[asantos]

@Ne0nLiteZ not quite. riding a bike is optional; but if this technology is adopted as the default one, it should have handicap settings as well.

[Ne0nLiteZ]

@asantos

how to people without fingers use phones at all? buttons are worse than touch.

[bdkoehn]

@asantos accessibility options/settings

[zDSpider]

You don't need a 30" trackpad for a 30" screen. It's all scaled down. If your desktop resolution is 2560x1440 (wide screen), when using a mouse you obviously don't use the whole table to get from one point to another on the screen, now do you ?

I think I said it before but this concept is pretty fucking genius. I want it now. Cheap peripheral to replace both the keyboard and the mouse with tactile feedback (micro vibrations). Make it happen Apple !

[necrogloom]

@zDSpider You don't on a single click interface. But this is the opposite. With the use of 2 hands, (i.e. 6:43) You would need a significantly bigger surface. A comfortable palm spread is approximately 7". Thus, with the side panels, the navigating surface would need to be on average a 16" square. great concept.. Still needs modification.

[sk8rked]

It has too beeee linux.

[Alek2407]

The new magic pad kinda' does this. Combined with dashboard, expose, and spaces (launched by multitouch gesture (better touch tool)) it works kinda similar.

I don't like the left/right window thing in this demo and prefer running (about) one window (maximized/fulscrean) per space and using the 'dialer' interface.

[HaxorLee]

Daaaaamn nice :P

Lets see who buys this idea out first.

[lowtone10]

so has this been made? 5:27 looks like it has icons like KDE, and the shell implies they have picked the obvious choice; linux

[lifestudios]

I love this idea. Apple should make it a reality, NOW.

[johnxy888]

looks like a great start! affordable multi-touch workstations can't come soon enough! (and just say no to this "Magic" Trackpad rubbish)

[jelokin1]

Yes, but I want to have a 30" screen, but I don't have space for a 30" pad on my desk.

[lifestudios]

@jelokin1 I think the trackpad would just be big enough to fit your hands :P

[necrogloom]

@lifestudios If you were only meant to use one hand.

[dirtyturben]

i want to test this out