Patten had been criticized many times for screwing Hong Kong's economy during his time as governor general by the communist lapdogs ministers within the Hong Kong government. Yet, these people did not know Donald Tseng was the financial minister during Patten's time as Governor General. The Communists' appointed ministers are so incompetent, they even fail in sucking up.
this guy actually did nothing much constructive during the 5 years. I only remembered there were many fire diasters happened during that time and tooks many lives of ppl. But i dont know why we didnt have any democracy even unitl 1970s, 80s and 90s when it was still British rule. But at the same time they just say China should allow full democracy to HK after handover. We are moving forward, it is just a part of history and the next generation will soon forget. Great.
sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end till the next hong kong governor knows politics.
Most Pre-1997 Hong Kong ministers (as evident in Anson Chan and Donald Tseng, although the later is a known suck up but if he does not, how would he survive Chicom's purge after 1997 in the SAR government) know politics, it's only Chinese communists and their appointed ministers that do not (as evident in Dong, who is pretty much the George Bush of HK). RPC know politics, but not politics of governance but politics of causing chaos (Mao Zedong's doctrine).
sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end until the next hong kong governor knows politics.
sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end until the next hong kong governor knows politics.
Chris Patten, he is a former English conservative politician and as he talks about he was the last Governor of Hong Kong before the UK returned it to China. He represented Bath in Parliament for 13 years and today he sits in the House of Lords as Lord Patten of Barnes. He is also the chancellor of the university of oxford, where I attend. He is a wise and good man.
You are the perfect example of what Patten says, "they have blocked any democratic progress." Would you these communists please at least get out of Hong Kong first? I want to vote as one of the Hong Kong citizens when I turn 18 in the next couple of years. Yet you people keep stopping that from happening. I just hate the communist control freaks like you. Thank God you guys failed at passing Article 23 or else I would have been committing 'thoughtcrime' now.
This is really the last, if you have any problem, just LEARN by yourself, you think Britain is "pathetic" and "weak", yes, our labour government is really bad but what about yours? Thousands of people escape from your country to UK every year , I think you should brainwash them first, not me.
our people are not racists anymore , the majoity of us do not support the BNP
Britian IS pathetic and weak. Didn't your PM whine like a bitch for not holding a meeting with Obama during the G20. Isnt Britain the one who talk about fighting the Afghanistan war but wont raise the numbers of troops for NATO operations?
The UK is no longer an empire. I dont see why racist like you insist on keeping HK as a British colony. Especially when the local hates you.
Sorry, as I mentioned before, I can't talk to an idiot who denies everything bad but real about their country and exaggerates other country's problem, its really wasting my time.
Why don't China let Tibet to be indepedent? Wy don't China let Xinjiang to be independent?
I will remember what you have just said, one day, I will prove you are wrong, one day you will be sorry for insulting us , to achieve this, the first thing I need to do is to ignore your pathetic bullshit. If you really think you Chinese can solve your problem, ok
Trust me white boy. Insulting you is the least of your problem. If my prediction is correct, we are already waging a trade war with you. You are the one who should be sorry for everything your people has done from the 18th century onward.
just go to the library and do some research about Communist China and you will know your "Chinese rule Chinese" is only a joke.
western countries are falling? really? You really think China is "strong?" thousands of your people come to our country every year illegally or being refugees , why? IF YOUR COUNTRY IS STRONG,WHY ????
I'm talking to an idiot!! What a bloody waste of time!!!!!
Time is currently proving western failure with the global economic crisis. I wonder, when will you white people finally gave up your superior complex and treat others as equal.
I'm looking forward to see how China become "Strong". Any friends? No, your nationalists hate all foreigners. I'm looking forward to see how can your government "solve" so many social problems.
in 1946, Governor Mark Young proposed political reforms that would have allowed Hong Kong residents to choose a representative Legislative Council but FAILED BECAUSE OF SOME CORRUPTED CHINESE BRIBED BY THOSE COMMUNIST BASTARDS!!!!!!!
British Dictatorship?, MKFK1 you sound you are with the pro-china group. HK did not want democracy because the UK would have given it to them if they really wanted it before the 90's and Patten. HK did not have to worry about losing their civil liberties. If they wanted to waive the Taiwanese flag they could under UK rule. If they wanted to protest independence they could under UK rule with out interference from London. Try this notion now, all these events are not allowed
Hk did not want democracy? How white wash do you have to be to even think that HK people love white dictators? I happen to be one of the post 80 hongers who remember all the critics of British rule back in the day. Trust me, white boy, we hated you. The only reason we tolerate, is money. Not democracy. You gave us no universal suffrage.
Hong Kong did not get democracy because Pro-China Business group dominated the majority of Hong Kong 's people's desire for true democracy. How can you be a critic of British rule in Hong Kong , when you had freedom in Hong Kong, and the british even convinced the Chinese to let the people of Hong Kong enjoy some of thoese freedoms. The crazy Pro-china groups in Hong Kong used to spread Mao progandanda in Hong Kong. Hong Kong loves whitey, we made you rich! gave you freedom the court system
Pro China business group have nothing to do with it. The last time I check, it was a british colony. Unless you are saying the British are so powerless and pathetic that they cant even manage their own colony.... lol
"HK love whitey." <---- glad to know you finally admits you are a racist.
MKFK 1- If you love china so much move over there get out of the UK. You are in the UK because it is richer and you get freedoms unlike what you chinese provide. The West gives other races citizenship and benefits. What does Asia do for other races. Deny their own people rights and other people unlike the west. so, wake up. GET THE F*CK OUT OF THE UK IF THEY ARE SO RACIST! As far as Hong Kong goes, we built it up and give the people freedom and democracy.
If you dont like foreign workers or foreign citizenship, then you should do what japan is doing, that is implementing harsh immigration laws.
As far as HK is concern, you build it up after you invaded it. You give the people "freedom", but no democracy. I havent even talk about Britain other conquest, say the opium war or India? With such a sad history as an aggressor, I would STFU if I were you. You have no legitimacy playing the moral card.
the money is here because of freedom and democracy unlike the Chinese!
We like foreigner workers unlike you racist Chinese! We give everybody opportunity! Unlike the Chinese!
Blame your Maoist friends and the Chinese government- They told the British not to give them Democracy because they were afraid of the Hong Kong people wanting to go for independence from China.
The pro-china groups are the trouble makers since Mao was in power. The British let everybody have rights in HK including the Pro-China Maoist. We can't suppress them like you chinese do to the groups they don't like. you are the racist, I did not admit nothing. you are only 23 years old you need to read the history of mao china my friend and if you hate the west soo much, Get the F*uck out.
No way. As long its legal, and there are money to be make, no fucking way, Dont like it? Why dont you go and vote BNP?
Pro China group is their freedom of choice. I never said I am pro Mao. But I am definitely against the notion of HK continuation as a British colony. Britain no longer have the money to keep HK interested.
If you dont like my freedom of speech, then get the fuck out of the internet.
If you dont like foreign workers or foreign citizenship, then you should do what Japan is doing, that is implementing harsh immigration laws. - We like foreigner workers unlike you racist Chinese! We give everybody opportunity! Unlike the Chinese!
Good. This is why the world have 190 countries. Unless you want to invade the whole world and impose your dictator rules on others, I see no reason why China or Japan or any other countries to follow what the west do.
The West is keeping the world safe unlike you Chinese that are sitting on your butts being greedy. We are giving our blood to help the world be safe from terrorists. The f*ck are the Chinese doing! Except violating their own citizens rights and if it was not for the basic law you would be declaring political safety in the UK.
How safe are the streets of Iraq, or the towns of Afghanistan?
Please, dont make a fool out of yourself. The "keeping the world safe" argument, cannot be won when your government is screwing up big time in Afghanistan and iraq.
PS: What do you have to say to the 1 million dead iraqi, and the 4 million iraqi refugees? What about those in Gitmo being water boarded?
Keeping the world safe my ass. More like keeping the world water boarded.
mkfk1 : you just told us to "treat" others as equal, now you're insulting other races
You Chinese have been racists for many years, You ancient Chinese said China is the central country and others are barbarians, IS THIS RACISM? Even now "Zhong Guo" means the central country, IS THIS RACISM?
Yea?> Your point? You dont like how we name our country? Maybe UK should change their name too. I dont see how you can call yourself United kingdom when you are a small country in the corner of Europe.
PS: when will you give back your other oversea territories back to the local...say the islands from Argentina..the pacific islands, and northern island back to the Irish?
I'm from Hong Kong and there are so many Hong Kong people still missing our great governon, Lord Pattern, and always welcome him back to Hong Kong! We lived under the British rule and we indentify ourselves as British rather than Chinese! But sadly the UK government deprived our right of abode in UK although we are holding the nationality of British National (Overseas)!
So what are you saying is, it's okay to live under a dictatorship, as long as it is our fellow Chinese? Explain to me how your logic works??
The civil service that serves and governs HK have many personals that aren't ethnic Chinese, some of them came from India or other regions of Southeast Asia, etc. If any one of them is to be promoted to positions of power by their own merits, what's wrong with that? And so what if that person is of Mongolain origin?
And since you talk about representation, people in HK won't be so fed up if we are allowed to elect our leader, not one appointed by Beijing. This is the core of our discontent. Get it?
Who is the dimwit here who can't understand my point?
The problem has nothing to do with ethnicity.
I don't care who governs HK as long as that government repects and ensures our civil liberties. The current Chinese government is a one-party dictatorship. No Hong Konger wants to be ruled by it. So unless China become more democratic (hopefully, that day will come), the people of HK will not stop resenting our overlords in Beijing. Get it now?
Which is why the same HK people will tolerate the past overlords in London. Get it now?
Democracy does NOT mean being rule by the British.
Democracy mean representing the people, in this case, the HK people, not fucking white people. Which is WHY YOU WONT SEE FUCKING WHITE ruling Japan, or India, or TW.
Did I insist that the government of HK must be white? Didn't I say I don't care whom it will be as long as they respect our civil liberties? Get that into your thick skull.
Hong Kong was a British colony, I was merely stating the fact that it would have fare better under its rule than the communist mainland. Do I have to repeat myself again? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ETHNICITY HERE. Geez, I feel like I'm talking to a three-year-old.
Yes, you just insist that a british dictatorship is better then a chinese dictatorship. In other words, you a racist. British colony of HK achieve only 2YEARS of democracy. British democracy my ass.
In reply, I rather have a chinese dictatorship then a foreigners that run our democracy. I would rather let China be Singapore then Iraq.
If you want to suck white dick, then go ahead. Dont expect others to do the same.
So you've said it, it's better to live under a dictatorship as long as it is run by your own ethnic group. You are sad and blind.
British dictatorship? Have you finished high school yet? Oh wait, have you been fed so much of those mainland propaganda that you really believed what you said?
Btw, using obscene language doesn't make you look any smarter, or your argument any stronger.
Good and google HK history, British grant HK democracy for 2 FUCKING years out of 100+ years of rule.
Show me one democracy in Asia in which the people elected a foreigner. Do you fucking know what a democracy is? Is suppose to REPRESENT THE FUCKING PEOPLE. Why the hell would HKers elect a British mother fucker? Are you so up your ass?
No, you are just a white supremacist. Fucking KKK loser.
And if you really want to argue, how about answering my earlier question: so it's okay to live under a dictatorship, as long as it is our fellow Chinese? Explain to me how your logic works??
lol that means you haven't explore the world enough. Your social network is too small, and it is filled with average grassroots, that's why there are so many things u don't know about.
If it wasnt for the UK, most of my family and relatives in HK would probably have been killed in the cultural revoluation, and I definitely won't have a computer to talk to you through internet. You Tube would be banned in china.
The sad thing is people like you who learned nothing from the free world and still talk like a brainless communist from mainland china. The US should kick retards like you back to the third world.
have you even been to the US? do u know that 911 is an inside job and it is just a tip of an iceberg? I was in US back then. this world is much more complicated than what u see on HK TV news ok boy.
I am here slapping your face bcoz it is you who are ignorant and never lived in other place outside HK. if you can't read what is going on in the current world, u can still go study some history and see who is the true mastermind behind most conflicts in current world.
Thank God for Chris Patten, who was one of the few who fought for freedom, rule of law for the people of Hong Kong. Although now, HK is deteriorating with low quality government which only looks after business interests.
do u know that for the last couple centuries UK is the mastermind behind most conflicts around the world, fabricated both world wars, killed uncountable number of innocent life, destroyed the original China.....there is just too much to put in here.
if u hate communist, you should hate UK even more, because they r the one constantly creating conflicts so they can extend their influence, it is a fact. Only a fool like u support UK domination.
Chris Patten is a great man to Hong Kong history. Under his rule, Hong Kong people enjoy a fully elected legislative Council. Human Right was also the best ever under his rule. Fucking Communist however have ruin all him establishment, especially those of democratic reform. I am from Hong Kong, God save the Queen!
lol only a fool support that witch, UK is the mastermind of NWO. they are now building a %100 control system that can monitor and record every single movement, brain activity of every single human on this planet, and turn off their brain whenever they wish.
UK is the ultimate evil and she is wearing an angel mask, why can't you guys learn. Go outside HK, this world is more complicated than you think boy.
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It is not true that the people of Hong Kong are 'happier' since the British left. Their lot has not changed. The British were largely irrelevant. They are still hardworking, thrifty, and as ever, mindless, in the way children often are. They retain caricature, Anglo/democracy buffoons like Audrey and Emily, but they all work 10 days a week and save everything, to depart in a blizzard of monks and firecrackers. That custard-tart eating glutton means nothing here - if he ever did. The fat cunt.
I really enjoyed that documentary on Patten that was shown around the time of the hand over to the communists. Great stuff, I think Patten did us proud.
The British could have introduced democracy as early as the 70's, but they didn't give a shit: the UK was making too much money from the 'Crown Colony' and didn't want a ripple/distraction in the financial waters. As '97 approached, they made a few desperate, spastic and insincere efforts to subvert the inevitable takeover with nods at equality. If the UK, as a beacon of democracy couldn't introduce universal suffrage in HK pre-97, what made them think a totalitarian dictatorship ever would?
completely agree.. sad to think there are people who believe the british were sincere in trying to bring democracy to hongkong.. sadder still if that person is Asian.. they gave all the high political posts to mostly British becos those were high paying jobs with cushy benefits...
The overall image that Chris left is rather positive. Some say he's done well in both political and economical developments. Some say he's an intrepid person who voiced the public opinions to the RPC. Shall we take another angle to look at the so-called "the last governor"?
Well, contributing political development might be a great thing but it's too academic to perform universal suffrage in the city would be ruled by the RPC. Well, as Linux CHEUNG (張永霖) suggests, it's too ideal that a Chief Executive who holds divided political beliefs against the PRC can rule Hong Kong.
Well, how would Hong Kong have developed if the same person like Chris Patten had ruled Hong Kong for past 10 years? Certainly, dozens of conflicts with the PRC! Well, when the 1997 turmoil came, could he be able to overcome the hurdle? Or, would he say, "Hong Kong people! Don't blame me, it's worldwide trend,'? So, could we enjoy stability and prosperity.
One of the most ridiculous things was that Hong Kong once was a British colony, but the British officials failed to raise the English standard of the people. Would it be a shame?
Now, we blame the SAR government for not using English as the medium of instruction in the secondary schools. Well, let's look back 20 years before 1997, did people complain this? Very rare. Whose responsibility was it? Were the people at that time really good at English? Why they didn't complain Chris Patten for not laying solid foundation of the Education System? Why do so many people still admire the last governor? Shall we think it deeply and by heart!
hong kong had democracy when ruled by the UK, and Hong Kong had a great improvement on economic growth with the good leading of Chris Patten! thanks for posting this!
HK was a lease just like when you lease a car, when the lease expired it was to be returned back to the chinese BUT the chinese agreed to let HK remain unchanged until the year 2047 i believe although it is changing little by little the people having their freedom taken from them. more censorship on tv and radio.
Hong Kong is a good example of what is possible when the west and east work together to build something wonderful.
HK people are much happier after the british left... the Brits behave like superior imperialist and rightly so but with the wane in their national comprehensive strength..I think it's only inevitable...have you been to China??? I think they are not as communist as you thibk and why shouldn't UK return HK to China, it did not belong to UK.
haha! feels like ancient history now. but anyway thx for comment. have i been to china? just back from my weekly trip 48 hours ago. i don't know about "HK people" but i was certainly happier as Her Mastery's subject. at least i didn't have to deal with toxic milk then. and i've no idea what an imperialist is like coz there was none in colonial HK. china isn't as communist as i think it is? sure, much worse now. 1997, so morally wrong...
u think this morally wrong thing is from China??? u better learn what is really going on in the world (especially UK & US) before saying something so stupid.
u know what kind of people are "morally correct"? those little sheeps who waste all their time reading the bible again and again, except when they r eating, drinking and sleeping.
The reason that the British handover Hong Kong was that they were pressured to return the Colony, or the chinese would have invaded the Colony killing a lot of innocent Colonials. And Margaret Thatcher was forced to sign the Joint-Declaration of 1984 to return Hong Kong to China or the colony would have been invaded. Even though it was the worst thing that could ever happen to Hong Kong, being part of the British Empire was the greatest thing that ever happened.
one person dislikes it, must be the prc itself!
kfki 5 months ago
Chris please come to Hong Kong!
dawnnadir 7 months ago 2
British army should come back to HK now.
keynesac 7 months ago in playlist Hong Kong
Patten had been criticized many times for screwing Hong Kong's economy during his time as governor general by the communist lapdogs ministers within the Hong Kong government. Yet, these people did not know Donald Tseng was the financial minister during Patten's time as Governor General. The Communists' appointed ministers are so incompetent, they even fail in sucking up.
Balencian 11 months ago
this guy actually did nothing much constructive during the 5 years. I only remembered there were many fire diasters happened during that time and tooks many lives of ppl. But i dont know why we didnt have any democracy even unitl 1970s, 80s and 90s when it was still British rule. But at the same time they just say China should allow full democracy to HK after handover. We are moving forward, it is just a part of history and the next generation will soon forget. Great.
kaiwkc 1 year ago
sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end till the next hong kong governor knows politics.
fatloong 1 year ago
@fatloong
Most Pre-1997 Hong Kong ministers (as evident in Anson Chan and Donald Tseng, although the later is a known suck up but if he does not, how would he survive Chicom's purge after 1997 in the SAR government) know politics, it's only Chinese communists and their appointed ministers that do not (as evident in Dong, who is pretty much the George Bush of HK). RPC know politics, but not politics of governance but politics of causing chaos (Mao Zedong's doctrine).
Balencian 11 months ago
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sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end until the next hong kong governor knows politics.
fatloong 1 year ago
sooner or later there will be democracy in hong kong... you must be joking Mr Patten. PRC is intentionally ruining hong kong for the past 10 years evidence by the fact that there has never been any official bridges between the govt of hong kong and Beijing or even any provinces in South China. There literary started the cold war period after Tong the previous governor stepped down. It won't end until the next hong kong governor knows politics.
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VailAlafred 1 year ago
Chris Patten, he is a former English conservative politician and as he talks about he was the last Governor of Hong Kong before the UK returned it to China. He represented Bath in Parliament for 13 years and today he sits in the House of Lords as Lord Patten of Barnes. He is also the chancellor of the university of oxford, where I attend. He is a wise and good man.
dezboss 1 year ago
Who is this guy? I love this dude.
FootballRevshawn 1 year ago
Gordon Brown slowly but certainly has revealed himself to be exactly what Lord Patten describes him to be in this video.
Justin0o0 1 year ago
@Justin0o0 Very true.
dezboss 1 year ago
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Democracy is simply the Western excuse to crush all they dont like.
All people who fight for freedom against the US and its enemies are "terrorists".
haha stupid white people... go die!!
PRCForever 2 years ago
@PRCForever
GO EAT SHIT
johnchannetshow 1 year ago
PRCForever:
You are the perfect example of what Patten says, "they have blocked any democratic progress." Would you these communists please at least get out of Hong Kong first? I want to vote as one of the Hong Kong citizens when I turn 18 in the next couple of years. Yet you people keep stopping that from happening. I just hate the communist control freaks like you. Thank God you guys failed at passing Article 23 or else I would have been committing 'thoughtcrime' now.
chuntohk 2 years ago 9
@chuntohk - haha watever loser
PRCForever 2 years ago
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ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
This is really the last, if you have any problem, just LEARN by yourself, you think Britain is "pathetic" and "weak", yes, our labour government is really bad but what about yours? Thousands of people escape from your country to UK every year , I think you should brainwash them first, not me.
our people are not racists anymore , the majoity of us do not support the BNP
good bye!!!!!
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Britian IS pathetic and weak. Didn't your PM whine like a bitch for not holding a meeting with Obama during the G20. Isnt Britain the one who talk about fighting the Afghanistan war but wont raise the numbers of troops for NATO operations?
The UK is no longer an empire. I dont see why racist like you insist on keeping HK as a British colony. Especially when the local hates you.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Sorry, as I mentioned before, I can't talk to an idiot who denies everything bad but real about their country and exaggerates other country's problem, its really wasting my time.
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Why don't China let Tibet to be indepedent? Wy don't China let Xinjiang to be independent?
I will remember what you have just said, one day, I will prove you are wrong, one day you will be sorry for insulting us , to achieve this, the first thing I need to do is to ignore your pathetic bullshit. If you really think you Chinese can solve your problem, ok
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Trust me white boy. Insulting you is the least of your problem. If my prediction is correct, we are already waging a trade war with you. You are the one who should be sorry for everything your people has done from the 18th century onward.
mkfk1 2 years ago
just go to the library and do some research about Communist China and you will know your "Chinese rule Chinese" is only a joke.
western countries are falling? really? You really think China is "strong?" thousands of your people come to our country every year illegally or being refugees , why? IF YOUR COUNTRY IS STRONG,WHY ????
I'm talking to an idiot!! What a bloody waste of time!!!!!
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Have you read what your wrote?
You are a clear anti-chinese racists stuck in the 18th century. I suggest you grow up and face reality.
mkfk1 2 years ago
The term "Zhong Guo" is used today, YOU DON'T KNOW??????
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Of course I have read what I have wrote, but it''s true!!! WHY DO YOU DENY EVERYTHING???
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
one sentence is enough:
TIME will prove everything, TIME will prove CHINA'S FAILURE.
I'm not going to talk to brainwashed people like mkfk1 anymore
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Time is currently proving western failure with the global economic crisis. I wonder, when will you white people finally gave up your superior complex and treat others as equal.
mkfk1 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to see how China become "Strong". Any friends? No, your nationalists hate all foreigners. I'm looking forward to see how can your government "solve" so many social problems.
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
I am also looking at how many "friends" american have.
Geo-politically speaking, there is no "friends". Just allies. To this I say: China = SCO, NK, Iran, Pakistan, Sir lanka.
and US= NATO, SK, Japan, Israel, Australia, new zealand...etc
How capable and how loyal are these allies? Thats another story. How many troops did EU give to the american for Afghanistan?
How my government solve china's social problems, is a Chinese matter. Its none of your business. Fix your economies first please.
mkfk1 2 years ago
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ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
in 1946, Governor Mark Young proposed political reforms that would have allowed Hong Kong residents to choose a representative Legislative Council but FAILED BECAUSE OF SOME CORRUPTED CHINESE BRIBED BY THOSE COMMUNIST BASTARDS!!!!!!!
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
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ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
fk british people
get out of not only hk, but also all your colonies
PRCForever 2 years ago
PRCForever :
fuck you shina swine!!!
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
@PRCForever How dare your use the english our language
rday18 2 years ago
British Dictatorship?, MKFK1 you sound you are with the pro-china group. HK did not want democracy because the UK would have given it to them if they really wanted it before the 90's and Patten. HK did not have to worry about losing their civil liberties. If they wanted to waive the Taiwanese flag they could under UK rule. If they wanted to protest independence they could under UK rule with out interference from London. Try this notion now, all these events are not allowed
britainmal 2 years ago
Hk did not want democracy? How white wash do you have to be to even think that HK people love white dictators? I happen to be one of the post 80 hongers who remember all the critics of British rule back in the day. Trust me, white boy, we hated you. The only reason we tolerate, is money. Not democracy. You gave us no universal suffrage.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Hong Kong did not get democracy because Pro-China Business group dominated the majority of Hong Kong 's people's desire for true democracy. How can you be a critic of British rule in Hong Kong , when you had freedom in Hong Kong, and the british even convinced the Chinese to let the people of Hong Kong enjoy some of thoese freedoms. The crazy Pro-china groups in Hong Kong used to spread Mao progandanda in Hong Kong. Hong Kong loves whitey, we made you rich! gave you freedom the court system
britainmal 2 years ago
Pro China business group have nothing to do with it. The last time I check, it was a british colony. Unless you are saying the British are so powerless and pathetic that they cant even manage their own colony.... lol
"HK love whitey." <---- glad to know you finally admits you are a racist.
mkfk1 2 years ago
MKFK 1- If you love china so much move over there get out of the UK. You are in the UK because it is richer and you get freedoms unlike what you chinese provide. The West gives other races citizenship and benefits. What does Asia do for other races. Deny their own people rights and other people unlike the west. so, wake up. GET THE F*CK OUT OF THE UK IF THEY ARE SO RACIST! As far as Hong Kong goes, we built it up and give the people freedom and democracy.
britainmal 2 years ago
I am here for the money.
If you dont like foreign workers or foreign citizenship, then you should do what japan is doing, that is implementing harsh immigration laws.
As far as HK is concern, you build it up after you invaded it. You give the people "freedom", but no democracy. I havent even talk about Britain other conquest, say the opium war or India? With such a sad history as an aggressor, I would STFU if I were you. You have no legitimacy playing the moral card.
Hows Afghanistan btw?
mkfk1 2 years ago
the money is here because of freedom and democracy unlike the Chinese!
We like foreigner workers unlike you racist Chinese! We give everybody opportunity! Unlike the Chinese!
Blame your Maoist friends and the Chinese government- They told the British not to give them Democracy because they were afraid of the Hong Kong people wanting to go for independence from China.
britainmal 2 years ago
The pro-china groups are the trouble makers since Mao was in power. The British let everybody have rights in HK including the Pro-China Maoist. We can't suppress them like you chinese do to the groups they don't like. you are the racist, I did not admit nothing. you are only 23 years old you need to read the history of mao china my friend and if you hate the west soo much, Get the F*uck out.
britainmal 2 years ago
No way. As long its legal, and there are money to be make, no fucking way, Dont like it? Why dont you go and vote BNP?
Pro China group is their freedom of choice. I never said I am pro Mao. But I am definitely against the notion of HK continuation as a British colony. Britain no longer have the money to keep HK interested.
If you dont like my freedom of speech, then get the fuck out of the internet.
mkfk1 2 years ago
I am here for the money the money is here because of freedom and democracy unlike the Chinese!
britainmal 2 years ago
Really? In that case, perhaps China should withdraw the 800 billion US t bond. I wonder how the west will fair after that?
mkfk1 2 years ago
If you dont like foreign workers or foreign citizenship, then you should do what Japan is doing, that is implementing harsh immigration laws. - We like foreigner workers unlike you racist Chinese! We give everybody opportunity! Unlike the Chinese!
britainmal 2 years ago
Good. This is why the world have 190 countries. Unless you want to invade the whole world and impose your dictator rules on others, I see no reason why China or Japan or any other countries to follow what the west do.
mkfk1 2 years ago
The West is keeping the world safe unlike you Chinese that are sitting on your butts being greedy. We are giving our blood to help the world be safe from terrorists. The f*ck are the Chinese doing! Except violating their own citizens rights and if it was not for the basic law you would be declaring political safety in the UK.
britainmal 2 years ago
The west is "keeping the world safe"?
How safe are the streets of Iraq, or the towns of Afghanistan?
Please, dont make a fool out of yourself. The "keeping the world safe" argument, cannot be won when your government is screwing up big time in Afghanistan and iraq.
PS: What do you have to say to the 1 million dead iraqi, and the 4 million iraqi refugees? What about those in Gitmo being water boarded?
Keeping the world safe my ass. More like keeping the world water boarded.
mkfk1 2 years ago
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ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
mkfk1 : you just told us to "treat" others as equal, now you're insulting other races
You Chinese have been racists for many years, You ancient Chinese said China is the central country and others are barbarians, IS THIS RACISM? Even now "Zhong Guo" means the central country, IS THIS RACISM?
ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
Yea?> Your point? You dont like how we name our country? Maybe UK should change their name too. I dont see how you can call yourself United kingdom when you are a small country in the corner of Europe.
PS: when will you give back your other oversea territories back to the local...say the islands from Argentina..the pacific islands, and northern island back to the Irish?
mkfk1 2 years ago
Chris is professional, Hong Kong politican are from kinegarden.
BIKEPRO603 2 years ago
I'm from Hong Kong and there are so many Hong Kong people still missing our great governon, Lord Pattern, and always welcome him back to Hong Kong! We lived under the British rule and we indentify ourselves as British rather than Chinese! But sadly the UK government deprived our right of abode in UK although we are holding the nationality of British National (Overseas)!
hkspiceboy 2 years ago
stop pretending to be honger.
Most hongers like the money during the british rule. Hongers were not, and are not "proud" to be "british".
And no, they do not consider themselves "british".
mkfk1 2 years ago
If you want to demean us Hong Kongers, then I am here to advise you to try again. Your first attempt was too feeble to really count.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
What? You would rather be a whitemans dog?
I much rather have the KMT in charge of HK then the british.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Are you stuck with the idea that an ethnic group could only be governed by its own members?
Actually, I don't care who rule my beloved HK, even it they come from Mars, as long as they respect and ensure our liberty and rights.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Then you probably accepted Mongolian rule for HK as well.
Sit boy, and your white master will give you some treat. Heal akibatai00. Hand Hand. Play dead. Good boy.
mkfk1 2 years ago
So what are you saying is, it's okay to live under a dictatorship, as long as it is our fellow Chinese? Explain to me how your logic works??
The civil service that serves and governs HK have many personals that aren't ethnic Chinese, some of them came from India or other regions of Southeast Asia, etc. If any one of them is to be promoted to positions of power by their own merits, what's wrong with that? And so what if that person is of Mongolain origin?
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Because:
1) HK is not a melting pot.
2) HK is no longer a british colony. It is and was a Chinese district.
3) HK is populated by a majority of Chinese. Even under a democratic situation, it is only appropriate to have a strong representation of Chinese.
4) The same thing can be said for Japan, or TW, or SK. How many foreigners do you see in their government? Do you see a British ruling Japan as PM?
mkfk1 2 years ago
You are a racist and so admit it.
And since you talk about representation, people in HK won't be so fed up if we are allowed to elect our leader, not one appointed by Beijing. This is the core of our discontent. Get it?
Akibatai00 2 years ago
You are a dumbass. Admit it.
HK, (when they have democracy) will elect a canto.
Japan will elect a japanese.
India will elect an Indian.
Only a dumbass like you would want HK to be rule by a white man you fucking white supremacist.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Who is the dimwit here who can't understand my point?
The problem has nothing to do with ethnicity.
I don't care who governs HK as long as that government repects and ensures our civil liberties. The current Chinese government is a one-party dictatorship. No Hong Konger wants to be ruled by it. So unless China become more democratic (hopefully, that day will come), the people of HK will not stop resenting our overlords in Beijing. Get it now?
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Which is why the same HK people will tolerate the past overlords in London. Get it now?
Democracy does NOT mean being rule by the British.
Democracy mean representing the people, in this case, the HK people, not fucking white people. Which is WHY YOU WONT SEE FUCKING WHITE ruling Japan, or India, or TW.
Fucking dumb ass who think race doesnt matter.
I bet you are an american too.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Did I insist that the government of HK must be white? Didn't I say I don't care whom it will be as long as they respect our civil liberties? Get that into your thick skull.
Hong Kong was a British colony, I was merely stating the fact that it would have fare better under its rule than the communist mainland. Do I have to repeat myself again? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ETHNICITY HERE. Geez, I feel like I'm talking to a three-year-old.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Yes, you just insist that a british dictatorship is better then a chinese dictatorship. In other words, you a racist. British colony of HK achieve only 2YEARS of democracy. British democracy my ass.
In reply, I rather have a chinese dictatorship then a foreigners that run our democracy. I would rather let China be Singapore then Iraq.
If you want to suck white dick, then go ahead. Dont expect others to do the same.
mkfk1 2 years ago
So you've said it, it's better to live under a dictatorship as long as it is run by your own ethnic group. You are sad and blind.
British dictatorship? Have you finished high school yet? Oh wait, have you been fed so much of those mainland propaganda that you really believed what you said?
Btw, using obscene language doesn't make you look any smarter, or your argument any stronger.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Good job, you just show every how dumb you are.
Good and google HK history, British grant HK democracy for 2 FUCKING years out of 100+ years of rule.
Show me one democracy in Asia in which the people elected a foreigner. Do you fucking know what a democracy is? Is suppose to REPRESENT THE FUCKING PEOPLE. Why the hell would HKers elect a British mother fucker? Are you so up your ass?
No, you are just a white supremacist. Fucking KKK loser.
mkfk1 2 years ago
Googe? I AM from HK with a large extended family from mainland China. I'm also a graduate student reading history.
This is tiresome. The issue of gov't has nothing to do with race. The important issue here is civil liberties.
If you really believe China is a shinning example of democracy and you love it so much, then stay there and shut up.
Foreigners are all evil imperialists, and only your fellow people can do no wrong. You're not racist, you're xenophobic.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
No, you are just a dumbass who dont know what is the meaning of democracy.
A democratic HK rule by British, what a joke akibatai00.
Whats next, a democratic India rule by american?
mkfk1 2 years ago
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ImperialGrenadier 2 years ago
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Akibatai00 2 years ago
And if you really want to argue, how about answering my earlier question: so it's okay to live under a dictatorship, as long as it is our fellow Chinese? Explain to me how your logic works??
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Yes, sadly they never gave us a referendum. They did not give us a chance to decide for OURSELVES our future.
Akibatai00 2 years ago
why was i born so late that i'll never be able to see British Hong Kong, the golden age? :-((
ngai1842 2 years ago 2
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yes - british has made hk bad...and chinese is better in running hk
derlailai 2 years ago
no, i don't think so...
ngai1842 2 years ago 4
Could you elaborate? I can't see with what reason you can possibly say that.
caixiaohui 2 years ago
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Chris, cut your crap, not everyone is fooled by u & your witchy master's angel mask.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
You are the biggest retard i have seen in youtube. Sad case.
derlailai 2 years ago 2
lol that means you haven't explore the world enough. Your social network is too small, and it is filled with average grassroots, that's why there are so many things u don't know about.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
compare to those top of the world british hypocrites, I am a very nice guy
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
don't u have better arguments? haha I am the biggest retard just bcoz I know much more than u guys do about the ENTIRE WORLD? thats very sad...
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
cut your own crap you bitch!
ngai1842 2 years ago
lol is that your best argument?
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
judging from his English ,it is quite clear that this guy is from China
pwine3 2 years ago
Very uninformed judgement.
wongweijin 2 years ago
If it wasnt for the UK, most of my family and relatives in HK would probably have been killed in the cultural revoluation, and I definitely won't have a computer to talk to you through internet. You Tube would be banned in china.
The sad thing is people like you who learned nothing from the free world and still talk like a brainless communist from mainland china. The US should kick retards like you back to the third world.
derlailai 2 years ago
u must have forgot something, UK is the leading power that destroyed original China even before your grandfather was born.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
the methods UK used to weaken old China is much more bizzare than what you studied in those stupid college textbook.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
if it wasn't the UK, there won't be that many wars in recent history!!!
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
have you even been to the US? do u know that 911 is an inside job and it is just a tip of an iceberg? I was in US back then. this world is much more complicated than what u see on HK TV news ok boy.
I am here slapping your face bcoz it is you who are ignorant and never lived in other place outside HK. if you can't read what is going on in the current world, u can still go study some history and see who is the true mastermind behind most conflicts in current world.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
What history have you been reading?
Akibatai00 2 years ago
in terms of hypocrisy, those commies are just little boy compared to the British.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
you're absolutely right
ngai1842 2 years ago
Thank God for Chris Patten, who was one of the few who fought for freedom, rule of law for the people of Hong Kong. Although now, HK is deteriorating with low quality government which only looks after business interests.
derlailai 3 years ago
do u know that for the last couple centuries UK is the mastermind behind most conflicts around the world, fabricated both world wars, killed uncountable number of innocent life, destroyed the original China.....there is just too much to put in here.
if u hate communist, you should hate UK even more, because they r the one constantly creating conflicts so they can extend their influence, it is a fact. Only a fool like u support UK domination.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
Tell me logically how we fabricated the World Wars?
Apachecatdog 2 years ago
I live in HK. I want Britain rule us again!!!
johnchannetshow 3 years ago
Hong Kong without Britain is kinda "soulless", like Communist Simplified Chinese
ngai1842 3 years ago 8
Hear, hear!!
Akibatai00 2 years ago
Chris Patten is a great man to Hong Kong history. Under his rule, Hong Kong people enjoy a fully elected legislative Council. Human Right was also the best ever under his rule. Fucking Communist however have ruin all him establishment, especially those of democratic reform. I am from Hong Kong, God save the Queen!
Timothyloyalist 3 years ago
agree with you entirely
ngai1842 3 years ago
lol only a fool support that witch, UK is the mastermind of NWO. they are now building a %100 control system that can monitor and record every single movement, brain activity of every single human on this planet, and turn off their brain whenever they wish.
UK is the ultimate evil and she is wearing an angel mask, why can't you guys learn. Go outside HK, this world is more complicated than you think boy.
u r such a political idiot.
IFuckUBitch 2 years ago
I really hate those who still talks about "democracy" like it is something holy...these people don't know a shit about UK, USA, and democracy.
too many political idiot in HK...Chris Patten is just a front man of the NWO agenda.
IFuckUBitch 3 years ago
Fuck off.
27106204 3 years ago
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It is not true that the people of Hong Kong are 'happier' since the British left. Their lot has not changed. The British were largely irrelevant. They are still hardworking, thrifty, and as ever, mindless, in the way children often are. They retain caricature, Anglo/democracy buffoons like Audrey and Emily, but they all work 10 days a week and save everything, to depart in a blizzard of monks and firecrackers. That custard-tart eating glutton means nothing here - if he ever did. The fat cunt.
27106204 3 years ago
If you are unable to express your ideas clearly and with a basic level of courtsey, then don't bother posting on any public forums.
georgetjn 3 years ago
I really enjoyed that documentary on Patten that was shown around the time of the hand over to the communists. Great stuff, I think Patten did us proud.
TheHonourableJLD 3 years ago
The British could have introduced democracy as early as the 70's, but they didn't give a shit: the UK was making too much money from the 'Crown Colony' and didn't want a ripple/distraction in the financial waters. As '97 approached, they made a few desperate, spastic and insincere efforts to subvert the inevitable takeover with nods at equality. If the UK, as a beacon of democracy couldn't introduce universal suffrage in HK pre-97, what made them think a totalitarian dictatorship ever would?
27106204 3 years ago 2
completely agree.. sad to think there are people who believe the british were sincere in trying to bring democracy to hongkong.. sadder still if that person is Asian.. they gave all the high political posts to mostly British becos those were high paying jobs with cushy benefits...
piggadave 3 years ago 2
The overall image that Chris left is rather positive. Some say he's done well in both political and economical developments. Some say he's an intrepid person who voiced the public opinions to the RPC. Shall we take another angle to look at the so-called "the last governor"?
futfutchichi 3 years ago
Well, contributing political development might be a great thing but it's too academic to perform universal suffrage in the city would be ruled by the RPC. Well, as Linux CHEUNG (張永霖) suggests, it's too ideal that a Chief Executive who holds divided political beliefs against the PRC can rule Hong Kong.
futfutchichi 3 years ago
Well, how would Hong Kong have developed if the same person like Chris Patten had ruled Hong Kong for past 10 years? Certainly, dozens of conflicts with the PRC! Well, when the 1997 turmoil came, could he be able to overcome the hurdle? Or, would he say, "Hong Kong people! Don't blame me, it's worldwide trend,'? So, could we enjoy stability and prosperity.
futfutchichi 3 years ago
One of the most ridiculous things was that Hong Kong once was a British colony, but the British officials failed to raise the English standard of the people. Would it be a shame?
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futfutchichi 3 years ago
Now, we blame the SAR government for not using English as the medium of instruction in the secondary schools. Well, let's look back 20 years before 1997, did people complain this? Very rare. Whose responsibility was it? Were the people at that time really good at English? Why they didn't complain Chris Patten for not laying solid foundation of the Education System? Why do so many people still admire the last governor? Shall we think it deeply and by heart!
futfutchichi 3 years ago
hong kong had democracy when ruled by the UK, and Hong Kong had a great improvement on economic growth with the good leading of Chris Patten! thanks for posting this!
kkdance 3 years ago 4
wow thanks so much!!
as someone from HK, I really appreciate this video and Chris Pattern's English is sooo good and nice to hear ^^
siracdshjw 3 years ago 4
HK was a lease just like when you lease a car, when the lease expired it was to be returned back to the chinese BUT the chinese agreed to let HK remain unchanged until the year 2047 i believe although it is changing little by little the people having their freedom taken from them. more censorship on tv and radio.
Hong Kong is a good example of what is possible when the west and east work together to build something wonderful.
RyleeWynn 3 years ago 6
The Brits shouldn't have left Hong Kong and 6 millions people to China...it's so wrong!!!
frtghghdfr 4 years ago 6
it's the promise. they had no choice but to return
arhang1987 3 years ago
HK people are much happier after the british left... the Brits behave like superior imperialist and rightly so but with the wane in their national comprehensive strength..I think it's only inevitable...have you been to China??? I think they are not as communist as you thibk and why shouldn't UK return HK to China, it did not belong to UK.
piggadave 3 years ago
haha! feels like ancient history now. but anyway thx for comment. have i been to china? just back from my weekly trip 48 hours ago. i don't know about "HK people" but i was certainly happier as Her Mastery's subject. at least i didn't have to deal with toxic milk then. and i've no idea what an imperialist is like coz there was none in colonial HK. china isn't as communist as i think it is? sure, much worse now. 1997, so morally wrong...
frtghghdfr 3 years ago
u think this morally wrong thing is from China??? u better learn what is really going on in the world (especially UK & US) before saying something so stupid.
u know what kind of people are "morally correct"? those little sheeps who waste all their time reading the bible again and again, except when they r eating, drinking and sleeping.
IFuckUBitch 3 years ago
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hong kong was lost to the U.K, 150 yrs ago after the opium war, and its time to give the island back to china!!!
scheung07 4 years ago
I wounder why the UK handed-over Hong Kong to China, it was a diamond mine to them
aay451 4 years ago
The reason that the British handover Hong Kong was that they were pressured to return the Colony, or the chinese would have invaded the Colony killing a lot of innocent Colonials. And Margaret Thatcher was forced to sign the Joint-Declaration of 1984 to return Hong Kong to China or the colony would have been invaded. Even though it was the worst thing that could ever happen to Hong Kong, being part of the British Empire was the greatest thing that ever happened.
asdf9jkl 3 years ago 2
The United Kingdom's last big colony, not our last colony.
cjk91 4 years ago
with such chauvinist pride, cjk91, you're lamenting about 'YOUR' colonies, big and small! you're so pathetic.
Ungulata 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this, Chris Patten is the only politician that I like! :-)
galaxybabe 4 years ago 7