REPEAT AFTER ME: All religious fundamentallists are sexually frustrated. They repress themselves and hate to be reminded who and what they are when they see someone who reminds them of who and what they are. Look at Jimmy Bakker. Anti this, anti that, yet turned dto other men when he was in jail. And the worst part is: UNEDUCATED HILLBILLIES GAVE HIM,AND TAMMY, THEIR MONEY. THEY WERE BUYING THEIR WAY INTO HEAVEN. THE FUCKING IDIOTS WERE SHORT-CHANGED BY A CHRISTIAN BONNIE AND CLYDE COUPLE
P.S. - They may not be FUN but they sure are MENTAL!! Now, why couldn't they be NORMAL LOONIES instead of being LOONEY LOONIES? God, they are! When Jimmy Swaggard was born, the midwife looked at him and slapped his mommy! The she look at Jimmy, threw him away and held onto the after-birth! Good Heavens, the best part of Jimmy Swaggart ran down his father's leg!!
All religions have one thing in common - THEIR SPIRITUALITY. It'snot Religion that murders people. It is PEOPLE who murder people. Religion does NOT start wars. People start wars! But those FUNDAMENTALISTS who start war do so because they are MENTAL. They have social, class, sexual complexes. If they go to Church, or Mosque/Temple/Synagogue, it makes them feel a bit "better class". But others in the church look down on them socially. But they still think Heaven awaits them. Does it?
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Unfortunately, this is nothing new. Rule by "Divine Right" has been the basis of hereditary oligarchies and monarchies throughout human history. This is EXACTLY what the U.S. was NOT supposed to be. Preventing this sort of lunacy was the primary reason for writing the first amendment to the US Constitution.
lol, where did i include race, because i said "ghetto pip boy" lol? did you even look at my page?I don't make some baseless accusations without proof. one would wonder if that "atheist" in your user name is BS after that.
@JONATHAN1984ATHEIST to afraid to hit the reply button? after that nigger hater comment? lol aren't you a trip. and you gone and closed your account, L-OOOOOO-S-E-R
I always wonder how Conservatives can call themselves moral or Christian (following the Teachings of Jesus) when their policies include war for profit (invented by dick Cheney, who registers as #1 representative of conservatives in America) torture, oppression of the poor and the end of humanity through the raping of the planet by corporations (Republican dogma supports NO environmental regulation)?? I could go on and on.... anyone? Who would Jesus bomb?
I think it's sad to see a country founded on secularism in a state like this. The government is full of religious fundamentalism. I hope thinks will get better with obama because I think he's a closet atheist. That's another thing btw, it's nearly impossible to have a decent political career when you're an atheist. If you say you don't believe in god most people won't vote for you. It's ridiculous since my experience is that the most of the wise people I met were atheists.
@HopeForPeaceNow Lets assume for a minute Jesus was real and he returned to America...Christians would be screaming on FOX News that Jesus is a Socialist Liberal who cares more about the poor than America's wealth and he would make America less safe.
American Christians are the definition of "Anti-Christ" which is kinda funny considering its all Bronze Age BS anyway.
I hear ya. I just had a blogger comment on my channel that Jesus is an NRA member in Heaven. Oy vay, that is sick.... if you are putting a gun in the hand of Jesus... that's all there is to say.
The crux is that they in almost NO WAY follow the Teachings of Jesus... which, taken as the words of a wise man, not in the context of "believe this crazy story or rot in hell". have a lot of wisdom, little of which is used in religion;LOVE, PEACE, Compassion, LOVE for the POOR.You're comment is true.
Here it is a few weeks later and still the pope hasn't come into my house and anally raped me!
Damn, abbesieyes, could it be you're just secretly fantasizing about all those ... *pant, pant* ... big scary men in long black robes .... *huff, huff* ... moaning Gregorian chants ... threatening to "take over your world!"?
I mean, considering the only proof you've come up with is nothing more substantial than the semen stains in your shorts when you rant on about it all....
That is pretty scary stuff. Soon this might expand into Christian belief systems all around the world. As soon as a political head makes a statement that he is above the voice of the people, that person needs to be permanently removed from a role that is supposedly voicing the views of the people. I can't believe they aren't tarred and feathered then ridden out on a rail to be honest. I see it as a violation of the duty of the job.
Message sent to me by kclymer1 (which I will report both to youtube and the german constabulary)...
I'm going to find you can kill you. I will shove your fucking bible up your motherfucking ass!! Every fundamentalist should be machine gunned down. Correction, every religious fuck like you should be machine gunned down.
No offence, but if anybody is going to be forcibly inserting a bible into a rectum I really wanna be ther to see it!!!! It could be the first real miracle ever witnessed............LMFAO
I understand this guys disgust towards Shindler's List. I took my kids to see it when it first came out hoping for a nice family outing, and what do I get? My kids ran screaming out of the cinema like their hair was on fire. Seriously what an ignorant cunt.
And now that we've space beyond the valid...the BlackWater issue is a gambit to paint all non-Roman faiths as 'extremist' and 'terrorist', so that she may attack them further under the new version of the old Roman Nazi Enabling Acts called PATRIOT and Homeland Security.
No, the Blackwater issue is a case of extreme abuse of power. It's a case of the secular US government hiring religious nuts like you to commit genocide. Thats what its about. It has nothing to do with the catholic church. OH and another thing, Bush was a member of your bullshit non-roman sect. how do you explain that? Explain it right now, how your side is less evil? I'm waitng you fascist pig!
No...It is as I've stated...which is why you in the boiler room need to space beyond the message. A gambit named is a gambit less effective for the naming.
Blackwater is a ploy to paint any other than Romans as extremists and terrorists, so that the RCC's new enabling acts may more easily snare the heretic and pagan alike.
Bush is as much a servant of Rome as Obama is. Bush took a loving stroll in the Pontiffs garden after PATRIOT and DHS were installed in zee Homeland.
No, blackwater is a group of fundamentalist traitors, and it has nothing to do with rome. Not one god damn thing. Also, I suggest you provide proof before you make an accusation. Second, I repeat, I AM NOT A FUCKING CATHOLIC!!!! I AM AN ATHEST!! IT IS NOT A BINARY WORLD IN WHICH 1 SIDE IS RC AN THE OTHER IS FUNDIES LIKE YOU!!! DON"T CALL ME A FUCKING CATHOLIC YOU PIECE OF SUBHUMAN FILTH!
A roman shill? Well you're a fundamentalist fraud. You're just like Joseph Smith. You're the next "flavor of the month huckster" in America. If I had my way, I would gather all bibles up and have them burned. Anyone inventing a religion, would be jailed. Anyone, including RC trying to influence my secular government, jailed. Got be sweetheart? I hate all abrahamic faiths!
I AM NOT A FUCKING CATHOLIC!!! IF YOU WANT TO SETTLE THIS, I WILL MEET YOU AND GUT YOUR SORRY SACK OF SHIT FUNDAMENTALIST ASS!! People like you should be machine gunned down!
In point of fact, abbesieyes, have you even *read* the Quran?
Are you not aware that if you have read the Quran and don't convert, a true Muslim is *required* to behead you? For if you read the holy book and do not honor its message by converting instantaneously, you have blasphemed Allah and must die!
I do agree with you that not all Muslims foist this upon us, only true Muslims do. The rest are cowards to their faith and deserve the same treatment, according to the Quran.
Neat trick, considering the fact that I have both a Roman bible and a Protestant bible. They seem to be identical except the protestant one is missing a few chapters. Both however have the good stuff about killing babies, the slaughter of the Ammonities. All the bullshit that you people say is immoral.
Your ignorance, masquerading as psuedo-intellectualism, abbesieyes, is quite tiring. There is no great conspricy of One World Government. And ALL forms of xianity, by definition of WHY they are called xians, is invasive. The entire format is designed to spread like a cancer and 'convert' everyone to the 'One True Path'. Not to excuse any other religion, we're just talking about the filth of xianity for now.
Ah, privy to some great 'mystery' of *Awareness* are we, abbesieyes? Know of the great 'global' conspiracy, eh? Cigarette smoking men with red right hands around every corner, eh?
And those men in the Vatican with the funny hats? Oh, yes, they're going to take over the whole wide world, aren't they? Just as soon as they quite banging little boy butts.
Don't forget your secret decoder ring! You can use that while we grownups take care of the religidiots.
No mystery. Awareness is available to all. It's been achieved by many in the past and will be achieved by many more to come.
Derision is a poor replacement for thought.
When a Political/Military/Philosophical entity spans the globe, it is of course foolish to consider they may wish to actually control it. Especially when their entire history shows that desire quite plainly.
Oh and one other thing. I'm not a fan of the catholic church, but the evidence seems to point that if there is an "authentic" christian church the Catholics are closer to it than you evangelicals ever will be. I need take no side in the debate, however I am more inclined to believe an organization that stretches to jesus' time to be real than whatever upstart began within the last 200 years. You evangelicals have a real problem of authenticity, which is why on dumb people listen to you.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Probably the reason why is because everything you've just said has never been proposed by secular historians. Therefore the only source is some crackpot, fundamentalist church. You know what? I've got two words to sum up all of the fundie frauds and what not: Joseph Smith. He is the epitomy of how easy it is for a huckster to start a church, especially in America, and for retards like you to believe him.
More sophistry from the boiler room. Nice attempt at the guilt by association tactic. I'm no Mormon.
When one does not wish to discuss a valid point, one attempts obfuscation, diversion and personal attack...these seem to be the only tools available to kclymer1.
Indeed, this *is* why religion is the cancer of humanity. Unless *ALL* religions are destroyed, humanity is doomed.
Imagine a world with *NO* religions:
NO 9/11
NO Inquisition
NO Crusades
NO witch burnings
NO genital mutilations of either sex
NO Gay bashing
Actually, a whole lot of really disgusting bad shit would just go away. Granted, there would still be good, there would still be evil, but there would be no more good people doing really bad shit in the name of *Gawd*
What Rome is attempting to do is to employ wedges against her enemies. One such wedge is 'anti-religion'. Its a false wedge (because almost all things considered 'religions' are a lie over the Valid) but it is designed to divide and destroy from within and as such can do quite a lot of damage.
With Awareness, a lot of evil goes away. 'Religion' is designed to retard Awareness and ply a trade on ignorance.
Why do you religious pieces of filth always use Rome as a metaphore for evil? Rome happened to be one of the high points of human civilization until you fuckheads came in and ruined it. You caued at least 1000 years of primitive backwardness. THANKS A FUCKLOAD CHRISTIANS! Well you won't do it again. The US is the new Rome, and I will not let you fuck this nation up. You'll get a bullet if you even try.
china, north korea, vietnam and laos are offically atheist. eastern europe is majority of atheists. go live there! i dont see anyone overunning their borders. i see them coming to the usa and great britain,
you invalidate the declaration of independence, which makes your inalienable rights untouchable because the creator endowed those rights not govt nor the people.
Ever heard of CAPS? That's what you use when you are typing proper nouns, like the names of countries or formal documents, you ignorant piece of white jebus-loving trash.
Do you know that the men who wrote the *D*eclaration *O*f *I*ndependence were theists, NOT xians?
Do you even know the difference? Or are you too busy running down your little sister so you can bang her "in the name of almighty Jesus?"
*Your* stupidity is what is disgusting, you cracker idiot.
And your ignorance of American history is shameful.
The "Abolitionist movement" as you incorrectly term it had NOTHING to do with religion. Religion was the STRONGEST voice for slavery in the U.S., without doubt.
As for the rest of your 'list'... pathetically incorrect. Go to some good schools and learn some READING COMPREHENSION! I didn't claim no bad would be done, only that good people would not do bad in the name of 'GAWD'.
@Krocotto No, actually, from Jon Brown to Thomas Garret, majority of the abolitionist were hard-core Christians and many churches funded their work, same as in England w/the famous William Wilberforce.
What was MLK's job again?...ohh yes, a REVEREND.
Enver Hoxha also thought religion was a cancer...millions of murders later, and religion is still alive in his home of Albania despite his attempts to wipe it out and replace it with a "rational society" those who don't learn from history...
You're a prevaricator, as well as being ignorant. And, I strongly suspect, a liar. "I am not even Christian" Well, if you aren't a Christian, you are a religidiot of some sort. For over fifty years I've listened to scummy little trolls like you: up with all the 'examples' of 'godlessness' and 'how good' religion's influence is, while UTTERLY IGNORING THE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.
@Krocotto To be a "prevaricator" would require me to stray from the truth & for that there would have to be one truth, which there isn't. I never said religion was good or evil, I only agreed w/Michael Shermer that it cannot be painted as black or white. Look at the treatments of Natives & blacks, does that mean white people are "evil"? No
Religions only cause harm when they think they are the only true religion: once Universalism is adopted & triumphalism abandoned, religion stops being harmful
Oh, sorry, you won't respond to a direct question, because you know you cannot answer it without showing your utter contempt and outright hatred of anyone who doesn't believe like you, like all religidiots.
It is HATE that mutilates babies, HATE that ostracizes gays, HATE that causes ALL religions to flourish.
The talk of 'love' is bullshit!
It's about separating 'us' from 'them', and how 'them' is going to suffer and burn forever and ever and ever, a-fricking-men.
@Krocotto What question? Anyway, no, I do not like mutilated babies, & I am pro-gay as are many churches. , I have nothing against Atheist or Atheism. All beliefs, including Atheism, are equally valid because God is such a mystery that it can only be understood on an individual level
I do not believe in hell & heaven after death, but as allegories for states of mind.
Atheism is not the problem, it is ignorant anti-theism, the "fundamentalism" of Atheism, I hate, just as I do religious fundies
Ha! I'm not lying when I say I've been dealing with lying prevaricators like you for over 50 years. And you all are so pathetically predictable. Push hard enough and rudely enough, and your bullshit oozes out:
"because God is such a mystery"
Bullshit, no mystery to it, liar. There. Is. NO. God.
You are just another godbot, posing as 'tolerent' when you are either too stupid to understand you are a tool of organized religion, or you are a lair using 'god' to control.
@Krocotto 50 years? Looks more like the writing of an fourteen year old Emo Kid who's parents caught him wearing his little sister's pants again.
No, God is not a "mystery". God is. What the heck it is varies from person to person. God is as much a "mystery" as love or humor is: something that can be experienced but not put into words & hence, we have myths to use as metaphors for the real thing or as Joseph Campbell called them "the masks of God"
Ah, yes, grasshopper, another 'college' puke who, having taken a few courses, fancies him/ herself another Aquinas.
Listen, dipshit, I give no respect because you deserve none. Every, and I mean EVERY little idiot bit you've vomited up has been done a thousand times before and each time it's been shot down.
Even your idiot bit that 'god' is 'god' to each individual in turn.
Come on, buckwheat, come up with something original, instead of parroting your prof.
@Krocotto Actually, I am a few classes short of a BA in Comparative Religion, unlike you, obviously.
Anyway, I do not even believe in God as a personal entity, but a tranpersonal...it. Or, maybe God is "just" in the mind...does that mean God is less worth while? What if God is just a feeling: does that mean feelings should be ignored? Of course not.
Please keep up the cursing because you are making me look good. You do realize you sound every bit like a manic street preacher for Atheism? LOL!
@mysticresistence : Ah, the old "I"ve been to college, gathering knowledge" so I know more than you.
No, you ignorant, educated-beyond-your intelligence, smug little snot. You seem to feel that by attending classes your opinion is any better than a gap-toothed, inbred hillbilliy's.
Take some reality classes, buckwheat, like physics, maths, biology, cosmology, you know, the stuff that dupes like you hate because of 'all that math' and 'all that precision' stuff.
@Krocotto I go to a secular, public college, would never be caught dead in a seminary school, and actually have thirteen credits of biology & nine of mathematics under my belt...I also have six credits in psychology, although you seem to require the assistance of someone with allot more education in the field of psychology than I have.
Ohh...& what exactly is reality? Too much damn George Berkeley has me wondering...
@mysticresistence : Good. So did I. But don't take upon yourself the hubris of "The Best and the Brightest," that group of Ivy-league of smug mugs that sent us down the tubes in Vietnam, cause Hey! We can win it, when no other country has!
You've been, at best, introduced to the concepts of what religion is, nothing more. You need years of study and good biology in order to understand, for instance, that many 'mystics' are merely schizophrenics in deep hallucinatory psyhosis.
@Krocotto What the hell does Vietnam have to do with this? Last time I saw a strawman that big, I was watching "The Wizard of Oz", LOL!
Ohh, & Zen mediation involves seeing the world as it is, which is the exact opposite of a hallucination. According to a Bloomsburg University study, zen monks had a better than average ability to discern illusions from reality, i.e., they were less likely to see things...but what does a University study know? LOL!
@mysticresistence : It was, in fact, Shermer's books that alerted me to the PET Scan and drug studies that showed what was happening in the brains of schizophrenics who claim to be seeing and talking with 'god.'
That was for me, the final nail in the coffin. Trained to accept what a person says they see, they see, I couldn't know for sure WHAT they were seeing. Now I know given the right drugs and stimulus, I can make ANYONE see 'god' just like the mystics.
@Krocotto Yes, and there are schizophrenics who claim to see J Edgar Hoover too, does that me Hoover doesn't exist? Also, not all mysticism is about a deity, & anyone who spent so much as ten minutes studying religion & mysticism would know that. Taoist have a mystic connection with nature, same with Wiccans although many of them personify it in a kind of pantheism and/or animism...so I guess nature doesn't exist either?
LMAO! A fallacy on top of a strawman wrapped in reductio ad adsurdum!
@mysticresistence Ah, enough of the child who, quoting authors and profs, has nothing to offer.
Come back when you've learned on your own, and can do something besides parrot others.
You're just another liar for god, the kind who help support the idiocies that produce the 9-11 bombers, the clinic bombers, etc.
In other words, a person too weak and stupid to understand that in their over-educated ignorance, they are helping the insane destroy the world in the name of god, allah, etc.
@Krocotto Excuse me,if you bother to read, I annihilated every one of your "points" & you offer nothing but more ad hominem attacks Why don't you look up The Cult of Reason, who massacred about 10,000 people in the hope of making France a "rational, atheistic society"? You sound allot like them. Or Enver Hoxha's Rationalist, scientist regime based on Atheism that murdered millions or the Soviet Union's Order of the Militant Godless
You're just another rambling homicidal fundie of Atheism
I know that spelling can be just a visual problem, but it does make you look a little less bright... (that's do, not due....)
And no, you do not deserve correct, proper English.
And stop displaying your massive ignorance about Atheist groups. I belong to several and they are more disorganized than a herd of cats. They bicker and fight over the stupidest stuff, including, ala' South Park, the *name* of the group!
@Krocotto Ad hominem attacks again.They don't make your position look very good. You realize that you'd be kicked out of any academic debate if you said things like that...but I suppose the professors & university in question would all be a bunch of "doofusses" too? Ohh, & all Atheist groups have something uniting them: they are all 1) in a group and 2) all Atheists. Wiccans, on the other hand, are polytheist, non-theist, agnostic, pantheist etc, & many are too independent to even have a group
@Krocotto Ohh do spare me, SPARE ME that same old tired line about "organized religion" Look up "American Atheist" & see that there is organized Atheism too!
Not to mention many religion, like Wicca, Asatru, Gnosticism etc are extremely DISORGANIZED...it's possible for a Wiccan to become Wiccan, practice Wicca from cradle to grave, & never meet with or associate w/another Wiccan...so how, pray tell, is that "organized" religion? LOL!
Please keep up the cursing & psychotic Ad Hominem attacks :)
While you're patting yourself on the back over your 'courses' see if you can take one on the English language. There's a concept called 'reading comprehension' that you should look up. It will enable you to understand and remember both the meaning and the context of what you are reading.
(Makes you look a little smarter, too. Not quite so dense as to miss that I repeatedly ranted about "ALL" religions.)
@Krocotto So, a religion that does not require it's members to be a part of any organization or even meet members of the same faith at all is a "organized religion" how exactly?
ROTFL! For a "rationalist" you certainly curse like someone who is quite irrational in a bad way.
By all means, do keep this up, because this is funnier than a Mystery Science 3000 Marathon.
It is cute, though, when someone like you is exposed to the pseudo-intellectual asswipe apologists for the filth of the stupidity of relgion and then thinks that he/she is fit to argue about such profundities.
You think that because the argument seems clever and new to you that it is, in fact, new and clever; not realizing, of course, that millions have heard the same tired old shit and dismissed it all way, way, WAY long ago.
@Krocotto um...what's "relgion"? Is that an acne medication or something? Ohh, & my favorite scholars on Christianity, Bart Ehrman, Elaine Pagels, Marvin Meyer etc, are not themselves Christians (they're all Agnostic) & are not apologists. The only apologist I like is Alister McGrath.
I do hate to point this out to you but, cursing in and of it's self does not help you to win an argument & it is in fact usually counter-productive.
@Krocotto There're plenty of homophobic Atheist, as many of my gay friends have told me, & plenty of pro-gay religious folks, me being one of them
I'm saying that all views on divinity, Atheist, Agnostic, Pantheist, Panantheist, Transtheist, Omnitheist, Deist, or what have you are equally valid & that religion can only be proven to the individual on the individual level: you are saying that you have the only truth & anyone who believes otherwise is wrong
@mysticresistence : You just made the most moronic statement I've seen on the intertubes: All views valid? You idiot! NO diest, anywhere, at any time has offered any proof of any miraculous claim. Equally valid? When you're on the gurney with a heart attack, you want a Zulu to shake some juju beads over your ass? Hey, dude, it's as valid a belief as any other. Sorry, you are too stupid to make a case for religion, you only hurt it. Too bad, so sad. But, as I said, pathetically typical.
@Krocotto umm, hate to break it to you home-skillet, but the whole idea of Deism (the "e" comes before the "i", btw) is that a intelligence created the universe a & does not intervene & hence, there are no miracles.
I am going to college for Comparative Religion right now &, from what I have sen, I know allot more about it than you do.
And yes, you ignorant tool, there are plenty of religions that view physical problems like a heart attack as a 'demon attack' that can be taken care of with their "equally valid" stupidity.
Like the hateful assholes here in America who let their children die from diabetes because "God will heal them."
Diabetes, do you hear?! Something so easy to treat, and children DIE in the name of religion.
THAT's just one of millions of reasons to destroy all fairy tales.
@Krocotto Those views are being imposed on children & hence, they are a form of theocracy in that the family unit acts as a miniature version of the state. Nothing like freedom of thought, which is what I am talking about
@Krocotto "However, for every one of these grand tragedies there are ten thousand acts of personal kindness and social good that go unreported...
religion, like all social institutions of such historical depth and culture impact, cannot be reduced to an unambiguous good or evil." -Michel Shermer, Agnostic, science writer, and founder of the skeptic society and world renowned skeptic author. Painting something as huge as religion in black & white terms is childish in extreme.
Or do you think mutilating the genitalia of babies is okay?
Or that beating and/or shaming a child because they prefer those of their same sex is, well, just good parenting?
Morons will always do the above, but good people all over this world do these things believing they are TOTALLY RIGHT in doing so because their disgustingly perverted and sick religions told them it was THEIR DUTY.
And these are but two examples.
Your examples, besides being incorrect, are IRRELAVANT
Lol, I didn't know there was another atheist at LSU...joking...but from my experiences a large portion of the biology students there seem to think that the professors are lying as soon as the word evolution comes out of their mouths...It was so irritating having the student next to me telling me how the professor, that has spent 30 years of his life relying on evolution to work for his research, didn't know what he was talking about.
Yes, lets get them! I want to go to Senator Tom Coburn's town hall meeting, if he's not too big of a pussy to have one. I'm going, and I'm going ask his sorry ass what right he has to impose or try to impose his primitive bronze age belief system on the greatest secular democracy the world has seen. If we get anything other than "I am truly sorry, it will never happen again, i'll quit", lets spring into action and kick his ass into next year!
Rome wishes to paint all 'hereitcal' brands of Christianity as 'extremists' and terrorists. As such, it uses the Fundies (a radical wing established by Rome herself) to paint all others guilty by association.
Interesting that in Canada, the one Prime Minister who was not RC since 1968...is a Fundie. Just another facade to lend the RCC Executive and her Orders plausible deniability for the FACT that they have never stopped using the tools of Inquisition globally.
All christians are nothing more than filthy power hungry fascists, whether we're talking about RC or fundamentalist christians. You're all filth. You can believe whatever the hell you want, but stay the FUCK away from ME and my GOVERNMENT.
kclymer1 - you are incorrect. Not all strains of christianity foist themselves on others or attempt to erradicate others. Just as not all strains of Islam foist themselves on others or attempt to erradicate others. etc etc etc
Just as not all atheists make unsupported blanket statements....
Your Govt. is already in the hands of Rome. That is why predation is becoming rampant in America.
First off all Abbesieyes, what in the hell are you talking about in the hands of Rome? Its clear we mean Rome in two senses. I think of Rome as he ultimate power of the ancient world, the first attempt at a republic, and incredible acheivement. You christian nuts use it as a metaphore for evil, either the catholic church or "appocolyptic" bullshit. What i'm telling you is, you say the US is Rome? I say thank you. My second point will continue in part two.
Ok now second point. Rome as in the great civilazation was REPLACED by ignorant stupid christians such as yourself who believed in superstitions, charms, and that the earth was the center of the universe. Just like in your little magic book the bible. This is what historians call "the dark ages". Final point, all christians do try and "force their belief" on others. Your religion requires proselytizing, which is why we atheists don't like you. You assume we "lack" something, we don't!
Rome was never replaced. Rome, Constantinople and Alexandria stole the mantle, and hid the core. They then doned a different garb, kept the bifurcated keys and continued to make a trade on ignorance.
You lack awareness and a requirement in/of base character. The Slavish and the Mass refuse to question, therefore they are undone.
merging recently??? they've been in kahoots since at least the 1400's when King James rewrote Gods word to use as a tool against us peasants. morality and Gods word is the same thing. its the twist on it that these guys are talking about. i think this is the confusion that makes regular a/theist folk fight about it. there is nothing wrong with having religion or faith, it is the misuse by "the family" that is the problem. it seems odd that intelligent ppl cant see this.
The whole idea of building mega churches on bases will not work. Being a man that used to live on a forigen Navy base for three years, I can say that 90% of those guys did not attend a church on a regular basis and would not care about a church being built. The only church that was in the Yokuska base was just a means of giving driving directions and whotnot. As much as I make fun of the Navy, at least I could openly be an Atheist and nobody thought that was a big deal.
Their idea of Christianity reminds me of the concept of the Elect in Calvinism. It doesn't matter what you do. You're either chosen or not chosen.
Fundamentalists claim that Catholics, Mormons, and Jehova's Witnesses aren't really Christian. I've never heard them say Calvinism is not Christian, but the idea of the Elect seems unchristian to me.
Jesus Christ was upfront in His ministry, the devil is the opposite of Jesus Christ, for he dwells in secrecy. If this gentlemen are being secretive then no good will come out of this organization. Saying I am Christian, and hiding their intentions that will affect the populace then they are doing Satan's work not of Jesus.
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All our troubles are the result of our sinfulness, men disobedience to God, Freemasons, devil worshipers, and Satanists in Gov. The freemasons and satanists which one of them is this club is plotting against u and me to eventually get rid of us, because we are too many, but also because this world is being prepared for the Anti-Christ. Boy He doesn't like u He wants u to be gone and share a place in the lake of fire. You only deny Jesus because the mere mention has ur conscience rattle.
I absolutely take it seriously. The problem you have is that you deny God, because u don't want ur conscience to say don't lie, don't lust after that woman, don't rob johnny boy.
Non thinker listen Slavery was a minor issue with the Hebrew people and they had to treat them humanely, You are evil like me and if u don't repent u will spent a deserve long time being consumed in hell, The heathen nations that attack Israel, sodomize children, sacrifice, and burn the kids, they all deserve to go.
@younhol00: you obviously don't posses the ability to listen or learn when presented with facts or evidence, re: the old worn-out argument about morality being the sole property of your imaginary friend. See also: the list of "crimes" in the second paragraph, most of those things are what we (and Israel) do to most other nations. No one is a saint, slavery or the harming of another sentient being is never a minor issue, etc.
I fear the God and Creator of this universe. He's a judge and will deliver a just sweep justice to those that deserve to go to hell. If u committed murder and the judge let you go is he a good judge?
Not we the government does, however we are equally guilty, for we have allow it. The United States will be judge and rightly so. Slavery in your mind was not the same slavery of the Hebrews, most were given a place to sleep and rest. The Hebrews had laws governing the treatment of servants.
Heres a better question, if you commit murder, and your mother doesn't lock you in the basement and torture you forever, is she a good mother? Yeah American slaves had places to sleep too, OWNING ANOTHER PERSON IS WRONG. There I put it in big capital letters so you could understand it. Maybe I should have written that in a book a couple hundred year ago, then you'd follow it to the letter.
Oh that makes sense like you will answer to men when you die. If you owe money shouldn't you pay. We come a long way than the ancient times. But back then u have serious choices, you owe you better pay, period. If you were in their shoes you would've accepted being a servant than paying the consequences of not paying back. Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, the Law of Moses, ordinance and shadow were done away at the cross. Doesn't apply anymore. Besides you will be judge regardless.
You know this? You know that the bible endorses racially motivated slavery? And you defend it?
Yes, the Hebrew people get special treatment, they can only be enslaved for a limited and arbitrary amount of time until they can pay it back or until the Jubilee Year.
Non Hebrews.. total slavery, they are possessions with no way out. The bible spells out that they can be passed down to your children as an inheritance.
That's right it doesn't apply anymore, as I stated before again Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, the Law of Moses, ordinances and shadows were done away at the cross. Doesn't apply anymore. Besides you will be judge regardless.
"as I stated before again Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, "
Yes, you SAID that.. but you didn't actually provide any support for it. And you won't bother, because you know how easy it is to quote passages that contradict you.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished"
Is everything accomplished? No? Then sounds like it's still law to me.
I was referring to the Law of Moses, The commandments are the supreme law of the Lord. Now Moses Law no longer applied. Remember the woman who committed adultery what did Jesus said whosoever hath committed no sin cast the first stone. He then approached the woman and said go and sin no more. The law of Moses would had that woman stone. Is everything accomplished? YES?
"The law OR the prophets? Hmm.. dyathink that might have meant more?"
No you want it to mean more because you hate the God and Creator of this Universe. Look man if He doesn't exist why you assert an authority over Him. I mean it sounds to me like you know there is a God.
Oh really? Can I go home then?
You do what you want anything you want. But we are responsible for the choices we make and you know it.
"No you want it to mean more because you hate the God and Creator of this Universe"
Oh I think it's different. You want it to mean something else because you want to believe that it all makes sense. You know that the rules of the old testament are loony. So they MUST not apply any more, so you need to find something that could be interpreted to mean that.. if you kind of squint at them in the right manner.
You still asserting an authority what is wrong with you, you for got the meds. If your seeking to justify your own lifestyle where you only serve yourself to live a selfish existence you have to make the truth a casualty. You are looking for justification to live the way you live. you put a nice little fight with your asinine words to hide the truth. The reason I know is because your not honest about what you believe. If you open your Heart He will reveal himself to you and you will understand.
slavery is slavery you fool get it in your head ! so if i take you as a slave and make you cook and clean for me and in return i give you a place to "sleep and rest" does that make it okay for me to use you as a slave?
If you are an US citizen guess what you serve the government, when the day you were born. That birth certificate is actually a stock in the market. It allows the Gov. to print money. So everytime you ask for a loan the money comes out of you not the bank. I know you won't believe me so watch the Money Masters, and zeitgeist addendum. The gov runs the school system which is public they say what you will learn. One of the planks of the communist manifesto is public indoctrination, you are a slave
Yup, you caught us, I just like sinning so much I just deny the completely obvious fact that a god who follows the, do as I say not as I do mentality, actually exists. /sarcasm
You sound like crying a river and trying to justify your stupidity, by accusing Your Creator of malfeasance. I know is though but you still be judge whether you like it or not.
you sound like a goddamn moron dude. Seriously, fundamentalism has never gotten the human race anywhere.
You are just going to be another one of the mindless puppets that waste their whole life praying and bowing and sucking the invisible balls of god. You will die with absolutely nothing to show for yourself but a lifetime of talking to yourself and alienating those around you.
I suggest you change course before you waste anymore time on childlike fantasies
Yikes! It's fundies like you that give our country a bad name. I checked out your profile.....If you actually believe Hovind is a credible source, you have much worse things to worry about than arguing with me.
You take pride in yourself for having shit for brains. It's really sad. Education is the only thing that can set you free, and from the looks of things...you have the education of a high school dropout.
Lol Education now that's really funny, we don't get educated we are indoctrinated. My real education comes from Our Master and Creator. You know what's really funny, you don't believe in God but you exert an authority over Him, that's call insanity and your filled with it, that is why you don't know what your talking about. You leave nasty messages to Christians and for what trying to make a case that He doesn't exist, then why do you fight so hard against Him if He is not real.
So tell us about your education, without adding IT to the picture. Talking about indoctrination, your indoctrinated mind gives us lots to laugh about, it's so far turned out to be about as wise as the Bible. Here's your chance to correct that picture.
If you read your Bible thoroughly you'll find so many blatant errors, either it represents just another faulty god or it's poorly written fiction. I've chosen my path after searching for 30 years deciding that I will follow a god as soon as one proves it exists. Oh, and errors, goes for the Quran too.
Slavery and torture isn't minor, it's bad, very very bad, nomatter how you put it.
After spending 2 years searching for a contemporary historian telling about Jesus, guess what I found?
i'm not going to look into all the details because i don't care that much.... but i will say that there's a chance these men switched/got into, C Street after election.
still tho... if Mike Huckabee was a presidential candidate then getting to be a senator while in C Street isn't that impossible in my mind.
there are some amazingly dumb states in America when it comes to politics (*cough* a lot of the mid-west / south-east *cough*) tho.
This sort of "Conspiracy Theory" approach to arguing against religion and religious organisations probably does more damage to rationalist causes than the fundamentalists do to themselves. Logical, incontrovertible, rational, reasoned arguments have far more effect in the long term because it gives "believers" the freedom to make themselves sound ever more ridiculous and unhinged.
REPEAT AFTER ME: All religious fundamentallists are sexually frustrated. They repress themselves and hate to be reminded who and what they are when they see someone who reminds them of who and what they are. Look at Jimmy Bakker. Anti this, anti that, yet turned dto other men when he was in jail. And the worst part is: UNEDUCATED HILLBILLIES GAVE HIM,AND TAMMY, THEIR MONEY. THEY WERE BUYING THEIR WAY INTO HEAVEN. THE FUCKING IDIOTS WERE SHORT-CHANGED BY A CHRISTIAN BONNIE AND CLYDE COUPLE
squirell1952 7 months ago
P.S. - They may not be FUN but they sure are MENTAL!! Now, why couldn't they be NORMAL LOONIES instead of being LOONEY LOONIES? God, they are! When Jimmy Swaggard was born, the midwife looked at him and slapped his mommy! The she look at Jimmy, threw him away and held onto the after-birth! Good Heavens, the best part of Jimmy Swaggart ran down his father's leg!!
squirell1952 7 months ago
All religions have one thing in common - THEIR SPIRITUALITY. It'snot Religion that murders people. It is PEOPLE who murder people. Religion does NOT start wars. People start wars! But those FUNDAMENTALISTS who start war do so because they are MENTAL. They have social, class, sexual complexes. If they go to Church, or Mosque/Temple/Synagogue, it makes them feel a bit "better class". But others in the church look down on them socially. But they still think Heaven awaits them. Does it?
squirell1952 7 months ago
I was already struggling with Australopithecus linage. Now its worse. ahhhh
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perplexfraction 1 year ago
Unfortunately, this is nothing new. Rule by "Divine Right" has been the basis of hereditary oligarchies and monarchies throughout human history. This is EXACTLY what the U.S. was NOT supposed to be. Preventing this sort of lunacy was the primary reason for writing the first amendment to the US Constitution.
JunkyardFoot 1 year ago
Nice Origin shirt! I see you enjoy mediocre death metal.
onlyaremedy78 2 years ago
President Palin? The Lord spoke to me. It is your calling to launch the entire nuclear arsenal at the godless Muslims.
JONATHAN1984ATHEIST 2 years ago
and while president palin is in office i will hide in vault 13 with my ghetto pip boy.
omnigear1975 2 years ago
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JONATHAN1984ATHEIST 2 years ago
lol, where did i include race, because i said "ghetto pip boy" lol? did you even look at my page?I don't make some baseless accusations without proof. one would wonder if that "atheist" in your user name is BS after that.
omnigear1975 2 years ago
@JONATHAN1984ATHEIST to afraid to hit the reply button? after that nigger hater comment? lol aren't you a trip. and you gone and closed your account, L-OOOOOO-S-E-R
omnigear1975 1 year ago
I always wonder how Conservatives can call themselves moral or Christian (following the Teachings of Jesus) when their policies include war for profit (invented by dick Cheney, who registers as #1 representative of conservatives in America) torture, oppression of the poor and the end of humanity through the raping of the planet by corporations (Republican dogma supports NO environmental regulation)?? I could go on and on.... anyone? Who would Jesus bomb?
HopeForPeaceNow 2 years ago 2
I think it's sad to see a country founded on secularism in a state like this. The government is full of religious fundamentalism. I hope thinks will get better with obama because I think he's a closet atheist. That's another thing btw, it's nearly impossible to have a decent political career when you're an atheist. If you say you don't believe in god most people won't vote for you. It's ridiculous since my experience is that the most of the wise people I met were atheists.
Gocavs1990 2 years ago
@HopeForPeaceNow Lets assume for a minute Jesus was real and he returned to America...Christians would be screaming on FOX News that Jesus is a Socialist Liberal who cares more about the poor than America's wealth and he would make America less safe.
American Christians are the definition of "Anti-Christ" which is kinda funny considering its all Bronze Age BS anyway.
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
I hear ya. I just had a blogger comment on my channel that Jesus is an NRA member in Heaven. Oy vay, that is sick.... if you are putting a gun in the hand of Jesus... that's all there is to say.
The crux is that they in almost NO WAY follow the Teachings of Jesus... which, taken as the words of a wise man, not in the context of "believe this crazy story or rot in hell". have a lot of wisdom, little of which is used in religion;LOVE, PEACE, Compassion, LOVE for the POOR.You're comment is true.
HopeForPeaceNow 2 years ago
Here it is a few weeks later and still the pope hasn't come into my house and anally raped me!
Damn, abbesieyes, could it be you're just secretly fantasizing about all those ... *pant, pant* ... big scary men in long black robes .... *huff, huff* ... moaning Gregorian chants ... threatening to "take over your world!"?
I mean, considering the only proof you've come up with is nothing more substantial than the semen stains in your shorts when you rant on about it all....
Krocotto 2 years ago
That is pretty scary stuff. Soon this might expand into Christian belief systems all around the world. As soon as a political head makes a statement that he is above the voice of the people, that person needs to be permanently removed from a role that is supposedly voicing the views of the people. I can't believe they aren't tarred and feathered then ridden out on a rail to be honest. I see it as a violation of the duty of the job.
Castrumpet 2 years ago 5
Once again, I adhere to no error ridden promise called religion...but I do note the valid that 'religion' wishes to obfuscate.
And that Rome kills to obfuscate reality is both history and future.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Message sent to me by kclymer1 (which I will report both to youtube and the german constabulary)...
I'm going to find you can kill you. I will shove your fucking bible up your motherfucking ass!! Every fundamentalist should be machine gunned down. Correction, every religious fuck like you should be machine gunned down.
One notes the tell-tale heart.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
No offence, but if anybody is going to be forcibly inserting a bible into a rectum I really wanna be ther to see it!!!! It could be the first real miracle ever witnessed............LMFAO
burkeyatm 2 years ago
Wow people can be really vicious on youtube.
pissandwich 2 years ago
And off youtube.
"You have enemies? Good! That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."
W. Churchill.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
He's wrong for saying that, but you're still a fucking idiot.
WecksyRex 2 years ago
Thank you.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
You're welcome, douchebag.
WecksyRex 2 years ago
I understand this guys disgust towards Shindler's List. I took my kids to see it when it first came out hoping for a nice family outing, and what do I get? My kids ran screaming out of the cinema like their hair was on fire. Seriously what an ignorant cunt.
chype 2 years ago
Ha... ha?
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
And now that we've space beyond the valid...the BlackWater issue is a gambit to paint all non-Roman faiths as 'extremist' and 'terrorist', so that she may attack them further under the new version of the old Roman Nazi Enabling Acts called PATRIOT and Homeland Security.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
No, the Blackwater issue is a case of extreme abuse of power. It's a case of the secular US government hiring religious nuts like you to commit genocide. Thats what its about. It has nothing to do with the catholic church. OH and another thing, Bush was a member of your bullshit non-roman sect. how do you explain that? Explain it right now, how your side is less evil? I'm waitng you fascist pig!
kclymer1 2 years ago
No...It is as I've stated...which is why you in the boiler room need to space beyond the message. A gambit named is a gambit less effective for the naming.
Blackwater is a ploy to paint any other than Romans as extremists and terrorists, so that the RCC's new enabling acts may more easily snare the heretic and pagan alike.
Bush is as much a servant of Rome as Obama is. Bush took a loving stroll in the Pontiffs garden after PATRIOT and DHS were installed in zee Homeland.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
No, blackwater is a group of fundamentalist traitors, and it has nothing to do with rome. Not one god damn thing. Also, I suggest you provide proof before you make an accusation. Second, I repeat, I AM NOT A FUCKING CATHOLIC!!!! I AM AN ATHEST!! IT IS NOT A BINARY WORLD IN WHICH 1 SIDE IS RC AN THE OTHER IS FUNDIES LIKE YOU!!! DON"T CALL ME A FUCKING CATHOLIC YOU PIECE OF SUBHUMAN FILTH!
kclymer1 2 years ago
It is a binary world and a triune world. Nice try.
One notes who has resorted to epithets and attack...and who has not.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Dan Brown has written nothing valid. He looked at a couple of something he thought was 'gnositc' and wove a fable.
Krocotto...just another Roman shill.
I am not anti Catholic...I simply note the valid.
The laity have never been to blame for the error of the Executive, Her Orders and the 'nobility'.
And when the mindless can't use arguement...they resort to mindless attack...much like their leadership.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
A roman shill? Well you're a fundamentalist fraud. You're just like Joseph Smith. You're the next "flavor of the month huckster" in America. If I had my way, I would gather all bibles up and have them burned. Anyone inventing a religion, would be jailed. Anyone, including RC trying to influence my secular government, jailed. Got be sweetheart? I hate all abrahamic faiths!
kclymer1 2 years ago
I'm not a fundie. I note the Whore that birthed them.
Those that would burn any book would as soon burn a human. Just another Roman Nazi, eh?
Your 'godless' sheep dipping is slipping, Roman.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
I AM NOT A FUCKING CATHOLIC!!! IF YOU WANT TO SETTLE THIS, I WILL MEET YOU AND GUT YOUR SORRY SACK OF SHIT FUNDAMENTALIST ASS!! People like you should be machine gunned down!
kclymer1 2 years ago
I bet you've read all about The Illuminati, eh, abbesieyes?
I mean, gosh, you know soooo much about all that precession conspiracy shit, don't you, you big, bad, know it all Lone Gunman, you.
Boy, I bet all the date-less geeks get a woody when you come around, eh?
Krocotto 2 years ago
In point of fact, abbesieyes, have you even *read* the Quran?
Are you not aware that if you have read the Quran and don't convert, a true Muslim is *required* to behead you? For if you read the holy book and do not honor its message by converting instantaneously, you have blasphemed Allah and must die!
I do agree with you that not all Muslims foist this upon us, only true Muslims do. The rest are cowards to their faith and deserve the same treatment, according to the Quran.
Krocotto 2 years ago
Yes, and there are gawd awful passages in the Roman Bible as well as the Hebrew Torah, etc etc etc.
Go sell the Crusader meme elsewhere.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Neat trick, considering the fact that I have both a Roman bible and a Protestant bible. They seem to be identical except the protestant one is missing a few chapters. Both however have the good stuff about killing babies, the slaughter of the Ammonities. All the bullshit that you people say is immoral.
kclymer1 2 years ago
Really? Given that Roman Catholic Erasmus gave Tyndale the supposed Greek version of what the Latins had, interesting (and baseless) contention.
And both versions are deficient.
Is this the best the Roman boiler room can do?
abbesieyes 2 years ago
OMG!
The Papists are out to get me!
And I'm not even a cute little boy!
Your ignorance, masquerading as psuedo-intellectualism, abbesieyes, is quite tiring. There is no great conspricy of One World Government. And ALL forms of xianity, by definition of WHY they are called xians, is invasive. The entire format is designed to spread like a cancer and 'convert' everyone to the 'One True Path'. Not to excuse any other religion, we're just talking about the filth of xianity for now.
Krocotto 2 years ago 2
Riiiight. Bye Bye, shill
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Nice pick for music.
NIN FTW!
ComanderLock 2 years ago
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kclymer1 2 years ago
Ah, privy to some great 'mystery' of *Awareness* are we, abbesieyes? Know of the great 'global' conspiracy, eh? Cigarette smoking men with red right hands around every corner, eh?
And those men in the Vatican with the funny hats? Oh, yes, they're going to take over the whole wide world, aren't they? Just as soon as they quite banging little boy butts.
Don't forget your secret decoder ring! You can use that while we grownups take care of the religidiots.
Krocotto 2 years ago
No mystery. Awareness is available to all. It's been achieved by many in the past and will be achieved by many more to come.
Derision is a poor replacement for thought.
When a Political/Military/Philosophical entity spans the globe, it is of course foolish to consider they may wish to actually control it. Especially when their entire history shows that desire quite plainly.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Oh and one other thing. I'm not a fan of the catholic church, but the evidence seems to point that if there is an "authentic" christian church the Catholics are closer to it than you evangelicals ever will be. I need take no side in the debate, however I am more inclined to believe an organization that stretches to jesus' time to be real than whatever upstart began within the last 200 years. You evangelicals have a real problem of authenticity, which is why on dumb people listen to you.
kclymer1 2 years ago
The 'authentic' 'church' of James the Just died in Jerusalem...at the hands of those who later arrogated to themselves the mantle of Catholic.
They were Gadol(ic), then they became Pharoah(nic), then they became Cathol(ic). A lie of 'Egyptology' masks timeline and procession (precession).
And I am not any branch. Funny, Rome has been playing at being more evangelical of late as well. Another sophistry.
At to who listens and/or seeks, those called will do so with/without me
abbesieyes 2 years ago
I have no idea what you're talking about. Probably the reason why is because everything you've just said has never been proposed by secular historians. Therefore the only source is some crackpot, fundamentalist church. You know what? I've got two words to sum up all of the fundie frauds and what not: Joseph Smith. He is the epitomy of how easy it is for a huckster to start a church, especially in America, and for retards like you to believe him.
kclymer1 2 years ago
More sophistry from the boiler room. Nice attempt at the guilt by association tactic. I'm no Mormon.
When one does not wish to discuss a valid point, one attempts obfuscation, diversion and personal attack...these seem to be the only tools available to kclymer1.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
There is no valid point, you have none! You provide no evidence, not one shred.
kclymer1 2 years ago
Indeed, this *is* why religion is the cancer of humanity. Unless *ALL* religions are destroyed, humanity is doomed.
Imagine a world with *NO* religions:
NO 9/11
NO Inquisition
NO Crusades
NO witch burnings
NO genital mutilations of either sex
NO Gay bashing
Actually, a whole lot of really disgusting bad shit would just go away. Granted, there would still be good, there would still be evil, but there would be no more good people doing really bad shit in the name of *Gawd*
Krocotto 2 years ago 8
Actually incorrect Krocotto.
What Rome is attempting to do is to employ wedges against her enemies. One such wedge is 'anti-religion'. Its a false wedge (because almost all things considered 'religions' are a lie over the Valid) but it is designed to divide and destroy from within and as such can do quite a lot of damage.
With Awareness, a lot of evil goes away. 'Religion' is designed to retard Awareness and ply a trade on ignorance.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Why do you religious pieces of filth always use Rome as a metaphore for evil? Rome happened to be one of the high points of human civilization until you fuckheads came in and ruined it. You caued at least 1000 years of primitive backwardness. THANKS A FUCKLOAD CHRISTIANS! Well you won't do it again. The US is the new Rome, and I will not let you fuck this nation up. You'll get a bullet if you even try.
kclymer1 2 years ago
@Krocotto
china, north korea, vietnam and laos are offically atheist. eastern europe is majority of atheists. go live there! i dont see anyone overunning their borders. i see them coming to the usa and great britain,
you invalidate the declaration of independence, which makes your inalienable rights untouchable because the creator endowed those rights not govt nor the people.
can you possibly understand that wisdom?
let atheists lose those rights first.
the consequences of stupidty.
scuddycares 1 year ago
@scuddycares Hey, moron!
Ever heard of CAPS? That's what you use when you are typing proper nouns, like the names of countries or formal documents, you ignorant piece of white jebus-loving trash.
Do you know that the men who wrote the *D*eclaration *O*f *I*ndependence were theists, NOT xians?
Do you even know the difference? Or are you too busy running down your little sister so you can bang her "in the name of almighty Jesus?"
*Your* stupidity is what is disgusting, you cracker idiot.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Without religion, humanity would still find plenty of pays to kill eachother for something stupid.
Also, a world without religion:
NO civil rights movement
No Abolitionist movement
No nonviolent resistance
No to 90% of the world's charities & relief organizations
No human rights movement
No Ghandi, no MLK, No William Wilberforce, No Father Damien etc.
I am not even Christian, but to lump all religion into one category is stupid and dare I say irrational.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence
And your ignorance of American history is shameful.
The "Abolitionist movement" as you incorrectly term it had NOTHING to do with religion. Religion was the STRONGEST voice for slavery in the U.S., without doubt.
As for the rest of your 'list'... pathetically incorrect. Go to some good schools and learn some READING COMPREHENSION! I didn't claim no bad would be done, only that good people would not do bad in the name of 'GAWD'.
Religion is a cancer that must be stopped.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto No, actually, from Jon Brown to Thomas Garret, majority of the abolitionist were hard-core Christians and many churches funded their work, same as in England w/the famous William Wilberforce.
What was MLK's job again?...ohh yes, a REVEREND.
Enver Hoxha also thought religion was a cancer...millions of murders later, and religion is still alive in his home of Albania despite his attempts to wipe it out and replace it with a "rational society" those who don't learn from history...
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence
Yada, yada, yada.
You're a prevaricator, as well as being ignorant. And, I strongly suspect, a liar. "I am not even Christian" Well, if you aren't a Christian, you are a religidiot of some sort. For over fifty years I've listened to scummy little trolls like you: up with all the 'examples' of 'godlessness' and 'how good' religion's influence is, while UTTERLY IGNORING THE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE IT CAUSES.
Again, do you get off on mutilating babies?
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto To be a "prevaricator" would require me to stray from the truth & for that there would have to be one truth, which there isn't. I never said religion was good or evil, I only agreed w/Michael Shermer that it cannot be painted as black or white. Look at the treatments of Natives & blacks, does that mean white people are "evil"? No
Religions only cause harm when they think they are the only true religion: once Universalism is adopted & triumphalism abandoned, religion stops being harmful
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
Oh, sorry, you won't respond to a direct question, because you know you cannot answer it without showing your utter contempt and outright hatred of anyone who doesn't believe like you, like all religidiots.
It is HATE that mutilates babies, HATE that ostracizes gays, HATE that causes ALL religions to flourish.
The talk of 'love' is bullshit!
It's about separating 'us' from 'them', and how 'them' is going to suffer and burn forever and ever and ever, a-fricking-men.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto What question? Anyway, no, I do not like mutilated babies, & I am pro-gay as are many churches. , I have nothing against Atheist or Atheism. All beliefs, including Atheism, are equally valid because God is such a mystery that it can only be understood on an individual level
I do not believe in hell & heaven after death, but as allegories for states of mind.
Atheism is not the problem, it is ignorant anti-theism, the "fundamentalism" of Atheism, I hate, just as I do religious fundies
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
Ha! I'm not lying when I say I've been dealing with lying prevaricators like you for over 50 years. And you all are so pathetically predictable. Push hard enough and rudely enough, and your bullshit oozes out:
"because God is such a mystery"
Bullshit, no mystery to it, liar. There. Is. NO. God.
You are just another godbot, posing as 'tolerent' when you are either too stupid to understand you are a tool of organized religion, or you are a lair using 'god' to control.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto 50 years? Looks more like the writing of an fourteen year old Emo Kid who's parents caught him wearing his little sister's pants again.
No, God is not a "mystery". God is. What the heck it is varies from person to person. God is as much a "mystery" as love or humor is: something that can be experienced but not put into words & hence, we have myths to use as metaphors for the real thing or as Joseph Campbell called them "the masks of God"
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
Ah, yes, grasshopper, another 'college' puke who, having taken a few courses, fancies him/ herself another Aquinas.
Listen, dipshit, I give no respect because you deserve none. Every, and I mean EVERY little idiot bit you've vomited up has been done a thousand times before and each time it's been shot down.
Even your idiot bit that 'god' is 'god' to each individual in turn.
Come on, buckwheat, come up with something original, instead of parroting your prof.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Actually, I am a few classes short of a BA in Comparative Religion, unlike you, obviously.
Anyway, I do not even believe in God as a personal entity, but a tranpersonal...it. Or, maybe God is "just" in the mind...does that mean God is less worth while? What if God is just a feeling: does that mean feelings should be ignored? Of course not.
Please keep up the cursing because you are making me look good. You do realize you sound every bit like a manic street preacher for Atheism? LOL!
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence : Ah, the old "I"ve been to college, gathering knowledge" so I know more than you.
No, you ignorant, educated-beyond-your intelligence, smug little snot. You seem to feel that by attending classes your opinion is any better than a gap-toothed, inbred hillbilliy's.
Take some reality classes, buckwheat, like physics, maths, biology, cosmology, you know, the stuff that dupes like you hate because of 'all that math' and 'all that precision' stuff.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto I go to a secular, public college, would never be caught dead in a seminary school, and actually have thirteen credits of biology & nine of mathematics under my belt...I also have six credits in psychology, although you seem to require the assistance of someone with allot more education in the field of psychology than I have.
Ohh...& what exactly is reality? Too much damn George Berkeley has me wondering...
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence : Good. So did I. But don't take upon yourself the hubris of "The Best and the Brightest," that group of Ivy-league of smug mugs that sent us down the tubes in Vietnam, cause Hey! We can win it, when no other country has!
You've been, at best, introduced to the concepts of what religion is, nothing more. You need years of study and good biology in order to understand, for instance, that many 'mystics' are merely schizophrenics in deep hallucinatory psyhosis.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto What the hell does Vietnam have to do with this? Last time I saw a strawman that big, I was watching "The Wizard of Oz", LOL!
Ohh, & Zen mediation involves seeing the world as it is, which is the exact opposite of a hallucination. According to a Bloomsburg University study, zen monks had a better than average ability to discern illusions from reality, i.e., they were less likely to see things...but what does a University study know? LOL!
keep this up, man, you have me ROTFL
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence : It was, in fact, Shermer's books that alerted me to the PET Scan and drug studies that showed what was happening in the brains of schizophrenics who claim to be seeing and talking with 'god.'
That was for me, the final nail in the coffin. Trained to accept what a person says they see, they see, I couldn't know for sure WHAT they were seeing. Now I know given the right drugs and stimulus, I can make ANYONE see 'god' just like the mystics.
God, just another hallucination.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Yes, and there are schizophrenics who claim to see J Edgar Hoover too, does that me Hoover doesn't exist? Also, not all mysticism is about a deity, & anyone who spent so much as ten minutes studying religion & mysticism would know that. Taoist have a mystic connection with nature, same with Wiccans although many of them personify it in a kind of pantheism and/or animism...so I guess nature doesn't exist either?
LMAO! A fallacy on top of a strawman wrapped in reductio ad adsurdum!
:)
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence Ah, enough of the child who, quoting authors and profs, has nothing to offer.
Come back when you've learned on your own, and can do something besides parrot others.
You're just another liar for god, the kind who help support the idiocies that produce the 9-11 bombers, the clinic bombers, etc.
In other words, a person too weak and stupid to understand that in their over-educated ignorance, they are helping the insane destroy the world in the name of god, allah, etc.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Excuse me,if you bother to read, I annihilated every one of your "points" & you offer nothing but more ad hominem attacks Why don't you look up The Cult of Reason, who massacred about 10,000 people in the hope of making France a "rational, atheistic society"? You sound allot like them. Or Enver Hoxha's Rationalist, scientist regime based on Atheism that murdered millions or the Soviet Union's Order of the Militant Godless
You're just another rambling homicidal fundie of Atheism
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@Krocotto BTW, the use of terms like "dipshit" do not portray yourself as intelligent in the least .
Due get a education, learn what is & how to avoid an Ad Hominem attack & try again.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence : Get a clue, doofus!
I know that spelling can be just a visual problem, but it does make you look a little less bright... (that's do, not due....)
And no, you do not deserve correct, proper English.
And stop displaying your massive ignorance about Atheist groups. I belong to several and they are more disorganized than a herd of cats. They bicker and fight over the stupidest stuff, including, ala' South Park, the *name* of the group!
Those boys got it right, yet again!
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Ad hominem attacks again.They don't make your position look very good. You realize that you'd be kicked out of any academic debate if you said things like that...but I suppose the professors & university in question would all be a bunch of "doofusses" too? Ohh, & all Atheist groups have something uniting them: they are all 1) in a group and 2) all Atheists. Wiccans, on the other hand, are polytheist, non-theist, agnostic, pantheist etc, & many are too independent to even have a group
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@Krocotto Ohh do spare me, SPARE ME that same old tired line about "organized religion" Look up "American Atheist" & see that there is organized Atheism too!
Not to mention many religion, like Wicca, Asatru, Gnosticism etc are extremely DISORGANIZED...it's possible for a Wiccan to become Wiccan, practice Wicca from cradle to grave, & never meet with or associate w/another Wiccan...so how, pray tell, is that "organized" religion? LOL!
Please keep up the cursing & psychotic Ad Hominem attacks :)
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
All religions, buckwheat, ALL religions...
While you're patting yourself on the back over your 'courses' see if you can take one on the English language. There's a concept called 'reading comprehension' that you should look up. It will enable you to understand and remember both the meaning and the context of what you are reading.
(Makes you look a little smarter, too. Not quite so dense as to miss that I repeatedly ranted about "ALL" religions.)
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto So, a religion that does not require it's members to be a part of any organization or even meet members of the same faith at all is a "organized religion" how exactly?
ROTFL! For a "rationalist" you certainly curse like someone who is quite irrational in a bad way.
By all means, do keep this up, because this is funnier than a Mystery Science 3000 Marathon.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
It is cute, though, when someone like you is exposed to the pseudo-intellectual asswipe apologists for the filth of the stupidity of relgion and then thinks that he/she is fit to argue about such profundities.
You think that because the argument seems clever and new to you that it is, in fact, new and clever; not realizing, of course, that millions have heard the same tired old shit and dismissed it all way, way, WAY long ago.
But hey, it's new to you!
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto um...what's "relgion"? Is that an acne medication or something? Ohh, & my favorite scholars on Christianity, Bart Ehrman, Elaine Pagels, Marvin Meyer etc, are not themselves Christians (they're all Agnostic) & are not apologists. The only apologist I like is Alister McGrath.
I do hate to point this out to you but, cursing in and of it's self does not help you to win an argument & it is in fact usually counter-productive.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
Again, you CANNOT claim that ANY 'good' act, done in the name of 'gawd' can be done ONLY in the name of 'gawd.'
But many good people deny gays basic human rights in the name of 'gawd' because 'gawd' is not love, but HATE.
HATE for those of different colors, HATE for those of different beliefs, HATE for those who behave differently from us.
And that is why the shit of all religions must be swept from the face of this planet before it destroys us all.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto There're plenty of homophobic Atheist, as many of my gay friends have told me, & plenty of pro-gay religious folks, me being one of them
I'm saying that all views on divinity, Atheist, Agnostic, Pantheist, Panantheist, Transtheist, Omnitheist, Deist, or what have you are equally valid & that religion can only be proven to the individual on the individual level: you are saying that you have the only truth & anyone who believes otherwise is wrong
Who sounds more intolerant, you or me?
mysticresistence 1 year ago
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto umm, hate to break it to you home-skillet, but the whole idea of Deism (the "e" comes before the "i", btw) is that a intelligence created the universe a & does not intervene & hence, there are no miracles.
I am going to college for Comparative Religion right now &, from what I have sen, I know allot more about it than you do.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence :
And yes, you ignorant tool, there are plenty of religions that view physical problems like a heart attack as a 'demon attack' that can be taken care of with their "equally valid" stupidity.
Like the hateful assholes here in America who let their children die from diabetes because "God will heal them."
Diabetes, do you hear?! Something so easy to treat, and children DIE in the name of religion.
THAT's just one of millions of reasons to destroy all fairy tales.
Krocotto 1 year ago
@Krocotto Those views are being imposed on children & hence, they are a form of theocracy in that the family unit acts as a miniature version of the state. Nothing like freedom of thought, which is what I am talking about
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@Krocotto "However, for every one of these grand tragedies there are ten thousand acts of personal kindness and social good that go unreported...
religion, like all social institutions of such historical depth and culture impact, cannot be reduced to an unambiguous good or evil." -Michel Shermer, Agnostic, science writer, and founder of the skeptic society and world renowned skeptic author. Painting something as huge as religion in black & white terms is childish in extreme.
mysticresistence 1 year ago
@mysticresistence
Or do you think mutilating the genitalia of babies is okay?
Or that beating and/or shaming a child because they prefer those of their same sex is, well, just good parenting?
Morons will always do the above, but good people all over this world do these things believing they are TOTALLY RIGHT in doing so because their disgustingly perverted and sick religions told them it was THEIR DUTY.
And these are but two examples.
Your examples, besides being incorrect, are IRRELAVANT
Krocotto 1 year ago
this gives me a strong sense of BS!
NegativeNick 2 years ago
These guys sound like cheesy movie villains or something. I can just imagine them saying "muahahahahaha!" after all those quotes.
vezrig 2 years ago
Why religion is bad, kids . . .
theoneawsomone 2 years ago 2
Lol, I didn't know there was another atheist at LSU...joking...but from my experiences a large portion of the biology students there seem to think that the professors are lying as soon as the word evolution comes out of their mouths...It was so irritating having the student next to me telling me how the professor, that has spent 30 years of his life relying on evolution to work for his research, didn't know what he was talking about.
masterchiefgtx 2 years ago
Send the c-street team to Guantanamo camp !!!
synsei1 2 years ago
Yes, lets get them! I want to go to Senator Tom Coburn's town hall meeting, if he's not too big of a pussy to have one. I'm going, and I'm going ask his sorry ass what right he has to impose or try to impose his primitive bronze age belief system on the greatest secular democracy the world has seen. If we get anything other than "I am truly sorry, it will never happen again, i'll quit", lets spring into action and kick his ass into next year!
kclymer1 2 years ago
I was not being quite serious but honestly they are a threat to democracy. AlQuaeda in the east, c-street in the west, we're surrounded !
synsei1 2 years ago
Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global. Valid.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
To restate the valid...
Rome wishes to paint all 'hereitcal' brands of Christianity as 'extremists' and terrorists. As such, it uses the Fundies (a radical wing established by Rome herself) to paint all others guilty by association.
Interesting that in Canada, the one Prime Minister who was not RC since 1968...is a Fundie. Just another facade to lend the RCC Executive and her Orders plausible deniability for the FACT that they have never stopped using the tools of Inquisition globally.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
*heretical
abbesieyes 2 years ago
All christians are nothing more than filthy power hungry fascists, whether we're talking about RC or fundamentalist christians. You're all filth. You can believe whatever the hell you want, but stay the FUCK away from ME and my GOVERNMENT.
kclymer1 2 years ago
kclymer1 - you are incorrect. Not all strains of christianity foist themselves on others or attempt to erradicate others. Just as not all strains of Islam foist themselves on others or attempt to erradicate others. etc etc etc
Just as not all atheists make unsupported blanket statements....
Your Govt. is already in the hands of Rome. That is why predation is becoming rampant in America.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
First off all Abbesieyes, what in the hell are you talking about in the hands of Rome? Its clear we mean Rome in two senses. I think of Rome as he ultimate power of the ancient world, the first attempt at a republic, and incredible acheivement. You christian nuts use it as a metaphore for evil, either the catholic church or "appocolyptic" bullshit. What i'm telling you is, you say the US is Rome? I say thank you. My second point will continue in part two.
kclymer1 2 years ago
Apocalypse has nothing to do with the end of the world. Learn the meaning of the word.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Ok now second point. Rome as in the great civilazation was REPLACED by ignorant stupid christians such as yourself who believed in superstitions, charms, and that the earth was the center of the universe. Just like in your little magic book the bible. This is what historians call "the dark ages". Final point, all christians do try and "force their belief" on others. Your religion requires proselytizing, which is why we atheists don't like you. You assume we "lack" something, we don't!
kclymer1 2 years ago
Rome was never replaced. Rome, Constantinople and Alexandria stole the mantle, and hid the core. They then doned a different garb, kept the bifurcated keys and continued to make a trade on ignorance.
You lack awareness and a requirement in/of base character. The Slavish and the Mass refuse to question, therefore they are undone.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
Ooooo, cooool!
So you've read Dan Brown's books!
I'm so impressed!
I bet you read the Twilight series and know all about vampires now, too, huh?
You can stop it with your head up your shitty ass anti-catholic scum.
Your stupidity is boring. Ooooo, Rome is going to take over the world! The Papists will rape us all!!!!
Run for the hills! And by the way, you are the shill, probably sitting in the C Street house right now. Go bang one of your 'brothers' and STFU!
Krocotto 2 years ago
NWO now openly exposes its self??? and ppl still wont get it or act united against it.
crashoppe 2 years ago
merging recently??? they've been in kahoots since at least the 1400's when King James rewrote Gods word to use as a tool against us peasants. morality and Gods word is the same thing. its the twist on it that these guys are talking about. i think this is the confusion that makes regular a/theist folk fight about it. there is nothing wrong with having religion or faith, it is the misuse by "the family" that is the problem. it seems odd that intelligent ppl cant see this.
crashoppe 2 years ago
Scary!
discussislam 2 years ago
I wonder if that Blackwater s.o.b. was part of this stupid inbred "family"...
SabreKitteh 2 years ago
Her thoughts reflect how the churches have been since Christianity began. Only caring about money and power.
LANDSofCONFUSION 2 years ago
O.o
thunderpants10 2 years ago
The whole idea of building mega churches on bases will not work. Being a man that used to live on a forigen Navy base for three years, I can say that 90% of those guys did not attend a church on a regular basis and would not care about a church being built. The only church that was in the Yokuska base was just a means of giving driving directions and whotnot. As much as I make fun of the Navy, at least I could openly be an Atheist and nobody thought that was a big deal.
seanThree16 2 years ago
Their idea of Christianity reminds me of the concept of the Elect in Calvinism. It doesn't matter what you do. You're either chosen or not chosen.
Fundamentalists claim that Catholics, Mormons, and Jehova's Witnesses aren't really Christian. I've never heard them say Calvinism is not Christian, but the idea of the Elect seems unchristian to me.
melora72 2 years ago
Too stupid to understand reality? Then Religion may be right for you!
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago 4
Jesus Christ was upfront in His ministry, the devil is the opposite of Jesus Christ, for he dwells in secrecy. If this gentlemen are being secretive then no good will come out of this organization. Saying I am Christian, and hiding their intentions that will affect the populace then they are doing Satan's work not of Jesus.
younhol00 2 years ago
Jesus was a low-life punk who really didn't have much to do other than running around spreading really clumsily forged lies.
Your bronze age sand religions ruined the entire freakin world. Point one place that has trouble that wasn't caused by faith.
Turan123 2 years ago 3
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All our troubles are the result of our sinfulness, men disobedience to God, Freemasons, devil worshipers, and Satanists in Gov. The freemasons and satanists which one of them is this club is plotting against u and me to eventually get rid of us, because we are too many, but also because this world is being prepared for the Anti-Christ. Boy He doesn't like u He wants u to be gone and share a place in the lake of fire. You only deny Jesus because the mere mention has ur conscience rattle.
younhol00 2 years ago
Do you honestly take the bible seriously? Is slavery, torture and murder in the name of a god something you want?
Orkaney 2 years ago 2
I absolutely take it seriously. The problem you have is that you deny God, because u don't want ur conscience to say don't lie, don't lust after that woman, don't rob johnny boy.
Non thinker listen Slavery was a minor issue with the Hebrew people and they had to treat them humanely, You are evil like me and if u don't repent u will spent a deserve long time being consumed in hell, The heathen nations that attack Israel, sodomize children, sacrifice, and burn the kids, they all deserve to go.
younhol00 2 years ago
@younhol00: you obviously don't posses the ability to listen or learn when presented with facts or evidence, re: the old worn-out argument about morality being the sole property of your imaginary friend. See also: the list of "crimes" in the second paragraph, most of those things are what we (and Israel) do to most other nations. No one is a saint, slavery or the harming of another sentient being is never a minor issue, etc.
EloquentiaSerpentis 2 years ago
I fear the God and Creator of this universe. He's a judge and will deliver a just sweep justice to those that deserve to go to hell. If u committed murder and the judge let you go is he a good judge?
Not we the government does, however we are equally guilty, for we have allow it. The United States will be judge and rightly so. Slavery in your mind was not the same slavery of the Hebrews, most were given a place to sleep and rest. The Hebrews had laws governing the treatment of servants.
younhol00 2 years ago
Heres a better question, if you commit murder, and your mother doesn't lock you in the basement and torture you forever, is she a good mother? Yeah American slaves had places to sleep too, OWNING ANOTHER PERSON IS WRONG. There I put it in big capital letters so you could understand it. Maybe I should have written that in a book a couple hundred year ago, then you'd follow it to the letter.
Kippydahcamper 2 years ago
Oh that makes sense like you will answer to men when you die. If you owe money shouldn't you pay. We come a long way than the ancient times. But back then u have serious choices, you owe you better pay, period. If you were in their shoes you would've accepted being a servant than paying the consequences of not paying back. Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, the Law of Moses, ordinance and shadow were done away at the cross. Doesn't apply anymore. Besides you will be judge regardless.
younhol00 2 years ago
You know this? You know that the bible endorses racially motivated slavery? And you defend it?
Yes, the Hebrew people get special treatment, they can only be enslaved for a limited and arbitrary amount of time until they can pay it back or until the Jubilee Year.
Non Hebrews.. total slavery, they are possessions with no way out. The bible spells out that they can be passed down to your children as an inheritance.
"Doesn't apply anymore"
I didn't see an expiration date on those rules.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
That's right it doesn't apply anymore, as I stated before again Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, the Law of Moses, ordinances and shadows were done away at the cross. Doesn't apply anymore. Besides you will be judge regardless.
younhol00 2 years ago
"as I stated before again Those laws applied only to the Hebrew people, "
Yes, you SAID that.. but you didn't actually provide any support for it. And you won't bother, because you know how easy it is to quote passages that contradict you.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
Ok what did I meant by the cross.
younhol00 2 years ago
Oh let's cut to the chase, shall we?
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished"
Is everything accomplished? No? Then sounds like it's still law to me.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
That is in reference to the commandments duh!
I was referring to the Law of Moses, The commandments are the supreme law of the Lord. Now Moses Law no longer applied. Remember the woman who committed adultery what did Jesus said whosoever hath committed no sin cast the first stone. He then approached the woman and said go and sin no more. The law of Moses would had that woman stone. Is everything accomplished? YES?
younhol00 2 years ago
"That is in reference to the commandments duh!"
Of course.. when he said "not the smallest letter" what he really meant was "of that one small part".
The law OR the prophets? Hmm.. dyathink that might have meant more?
"Is everything accomplished? YES? "
Oh really? Can I go home then?
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
"The law OR the prophets? Hmm.. dyathink that might have meant more?"
No you want it to mean more because you hate the God and Creator of this Universe. Look man if He doesn't exist why you assert an authority over Him. I mean it sounds to me like you know there is a God.
Oh really? Can I go home then?
You do what you want anything you want. But we are responsible for the choices we make and you know it.
younhol00 2 years ago
"No you want it to mean more because you hate the God and Creator of this Universe"
Oh I think it's different. You want it to mean something else because you want to believe that it all makes sense. You know that the rules of the old testament are loony. So they MUST not apply any more, so you need to find something that could be interpreted to mean that.. if you kind of squint at them in the right manner.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
You still asserting an authority what is wrong with you, you for got the meds. If your seeking to justify your own lifestyle where you only serve yourself to live a selfish existence you have to make the truth a casualty. You are looking for justification to live the way you live. you put a nice little fight with your asinine words to hide the truth. The reason I know is because your not honest about what you believe. If you open your Heart He will reveal himself to you and you will understand.
younhol00 2 years ago
"No you want it to mean more because you hate the God and Creator of this Universe"
Special pleading never gets old for you guys, does it?
tommyk77 2 years ago
slavery is slavery you fool get it in your head ! so if i take you as a slave and make you cook and clean for me and in return i give you a place to "sleep and rest" does that make it okay for me to use you as a slave?
m60yaface 2 years ago
If you are an US citizen guess what you serve the government, when the day you were born. That birth certificate is actually a stock in the market. It allows the Gov. to print money. So everytime you ask for a loan the money comes out of you not the bank. I know you won't believe me so watch the Money Masters, and zeitgeist addendum. The gov runs the school system which is public they say what you will learn. One of the planks of the communist manifesto is public indoctrination, you are a slave
younhol00 2 years ago
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m60yaface 2 years ago
so you will not reply to my question?
is slavery okay with you?
m60yaface 2 years ago
Yup, you caught us, I just like sinning so much I just deny the completely obvious fact that a god who follows the, do as I say not as I do mentality, actually exists. /sarcasm
Kippydahcamper 2 years ago
You sound like crying a river and trying to justify your stupidity, by accusing Your Creator of malfeasance. I know is though but you still be judge whether you like it or not.
younhol00 2 years ago
you sound like a goddamn moron dude. Seriously, fundamentalism has never gotten the human race anywhere.
You are just going to be another one of the mindless puppets that waste their whole life praying and bowing and sucking the invisible balls of god. You will die with absolutely nothing to show for yourself but a lifetime of talking to yourself and alienating those around you.
I suggest you change course before you waste anymore time on childlike fantasies
SechyoolarYOOESAY 2 years ago
"You will die with absolutely nothing to show for yourself but a lifetime of talking to yourself and alienating those around you."
Yeah yeah keep fighting the inevitable.
younhol00 2 years ago
Lol "keep fighting the inevitable"
Yikes! It's fundies like you that give our country a bad name. I checked out your profile.....If you actually believe Hovind is a credible source, you have much worse things to worry about than arguing with me.
You take pride in yourself for having shit for brains. It's really sad. Education is the only thing that can set you free, and from the looks of things...you have the education of a high school dropout.
Have fun talking to the invisible loser!
SechyoolarYOOESAY 2 years ago
Lol Education now that's really funny, we don't get educated we are indoctrinated. My real education comes from Our Master and Creator. You know what's really funny, you don't believe in God but you exert an authority over Him, that's call insanity and your filled with it, that is why you don't know what your talking about. You leave nasty messages to Christians and for what trying to make a case that He doesn't exist, then why do you fight so hard against Him if He is not real.
younhol00 2 years ago
So tell us about your education, without adding IT to the picture. Talking about indoctrination, your indoctrinated mind gives us lots to laugh about, it's so far turned out to be about as wise as the Bible. Here's your chance to correct that picture.
Orkaney 2 years ago
"You sound like crying a river..."
Thanks for that I ROFL'd.
You can't spell fundy without fun!
Kippydahcamper 2 years ago 2
If you read your Bible thoroughly you'll find so many blatant errors, either it represents just another faulty god or it's poorly written fiction. I've chosen my path after searching for 30 years deciding that I will follow a god as soon as one proves it exists. Oh, and errors, goes for the Quran too.
Slavery and torture isn't minor, it's bad, very very bad, nomatter how you put it.
After spending 2 years searching for a contemporary historian telling about Jesus, guess what I found?
Orkaney 2 years ago
you have to follow the way of Tao to solve all our trouble.free your mind...
jojoinhere 2 years ago
that's... really creepy....
kukulza 2 years ago
Who is the Leader? This sick bastard needs to be Exposed.
Thereminator101 2 years ago
David Coe. He's got decades of America's most powerful people backing him. He's as exposed as he can be. America needs to start to care.
HeyDuffy459 2 years ago
wow U.S is crazy these senators get voted in people over there must be insane
Greig1424 2 years ago 6
i'm not going to look into all the details because i don't care that much.... but i will say that there's a chance these men switched/got into, C Street after election.
still tho... if Mike Huckabee was a presidential candidate then getting to be a senator while in C Street isn't that impossible in my mind.
there are some amazingly dumb states in America when it comes to politics (*cough* a lot of the mid-west / south-east *cough*) tho.
kukulza 2 years ago
Eric Prince - a coadjutor of Rome.
Look to the Roman Executive, her Orders civil and military, the 'nobility'.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
The Fundies are established by Rome.
Rome has never recanted of Inquisition and Counter Reformation.
Obama is as much a servant of Rome as Bush was.
Rome runs a diversion gambit and attempts to slander the 'heretics' (normal christians' with guilt by association tactics.
One notes that Diem, Pol Pot, Stalin...were all sons of Rome. So was Hitler. So was Franco.
Inquisition and Counter Reformation, writ Global.
abbesieyes 2 years ago
This sort of "Conspiracy Theory" approach to arguing against religion and religious organisations probably does more damage to rationalist causes than the fundamentalists do to themselves. Logical, incontrovertible, rational, reasoned arguments have far more effect in the long term because it gives "believers" the freedom to make themselves sound ever more ridiculous and unhinged.
GwynforLwyd 2 years ago
Thank you for revealing yourself.
abbesieyes 2 years ago