Eldridge Cleaver - 1968 Comments- MLK, LBJ, Taxes, War & More..

[rrhynes]

The most important part is 3:30-3:55. Same shit today.

[SuperGrant000]

Everyone needs to realize that we are all made of the same materials biologically. I mean I have the same materials the sun has in my body to some degree and the same is true of all matter in the universe. Eldrige Cleaver was a sharp man, but he was just a man and had his own views. He later became a REPUBLICAN, so what does that tell you about people's views? Listen to the delivery,listen to the passion behind his words, or just listen for your knowledge, but don't find a resason to hate.

[DesertMountainSunset]

this biological FACT...the truth is that you are no better than me. No better than any Black....because you are White. You are noone important. And truth be told, when it comes down it, race will not matter in the long run. In a natural disaster...if your house had just been blown/washed away, and you had NOTHING. You were starving and thirsty and came across me holding a bottle of water...I'm sure the beautiful, brown, healthy sheen of my skin would matter less to you than anything else.

[DesertMountainSunset]

@Elmore3141 "Sub-humans from sub-Saharan Africa".......obviously, your absolute hatred deems you incapable of intelligent thought. If you knew any better...instead of presenting yourself as an ineffective idiot....then you'd know that the difference between you and me is genetically less than 1%. That early man slowly migrated from average over the span of years (thousands) and that the change in environment is what has whitened your skin. Not any form of superiority. So, in explaining to you

[DesertMountainSunset]

@DesertMountainSunset But I have seen comments like yours, time and time again. And it baffles me. Your existence, along with your Mother's, Grandmother's, etc. are all due to the genetic makeup of one AFRICAN woman.

"They don't belong in modern cities, living among civilized people."....You mean those heroine-addicted, scarred, violent junkies in small, rural communities across America. In small farming towns where the collective community IQ is relatively low due to drug-addicted WHITES

[Elmore3141]

@DesertMountainSunset Our existence is also thanks to ancient fish that grew legs and became amphibians. So what? Humans who migrated out of Africa and across Europe and Asia evolved physically and mentally, and developed civilization and cities, while those humans who stayed behind in sub-Saharan Africa failed to evolve nearly as much and failed to enlarge their brains. It's a fact that negroes have small brains relative to whites & Asians. Smaller cranial capacity.

[Elmore3141]

@DesertMountainSunset Have you ever noticed that light-skinned negroes tend to be more intelligent and better behaved than dark-skinned negroes? Don't pretend you've never noticed a difference. The lighter skinned negroes have more caucasian DNA, so they not only LOOK more white they ACT more white. Take a look at photos of Malcom X and H. Rap Brown, for example. They're both light skinned and both relatively articulate. You know in your heart that I'm right.

[Elmore3141]

@DesertMountainSunset Is it necessarily hatred to notice differences among people and to then be honest and straightforward about your observations? Look at Eldridge Cleaver in the video above. He's fairly light skinned. He most definitely is not especially dark skinned for a negro. When he talks, does he sound like a "gangsta" rapper from 2012 who walks around with his pants down and underwear showing? No, he does not. But young black males admire the rapper, not Eldridge Cleaver.

[711DAS]

@Elmore3141 you must be retarded. you don't know what the hell your talking about. Nigerians are the most educated in the country, you just don't know what your talking about

[Elmore3141]

@711DAS If you were educated, you wouldn't repeatedly use the word "your" when you mean "you are" or its contraction "you're."

You haven't refuted anything I posted earlier, because you can't. I speak only the truth, but the truth frustrates and angers you.

[711DAS]

@Elmore314 According to U.S Census data,Nigerians are the most educated ethnic group;tht fact alone pokes holes n you're logic.But tis isn't about race,as i'm pointing out ur individual qualities.People lik you are despicable;losers who spend their entire pitiful life annoying others with superficial bullshit.I'm young,handsome,my IQ is 130(+ or - 2),parents college educated and I'm on my way to Law School;unlike you,I hav no reason 2 eradicate poor self-esteem through being an asshole

[Elmore3141]

@711DAS I'm glad that you're young and handsome and smart, but your writing is disjointed, your punctuation is atrocious, and you seem to have trouble following a linear argument.

I certainly didn't mean to eradicate your fragile self esteem, thereby causing you to get hysterical (like a woman) and call me names.

[711DAS]

@Elmore3141 Yup. Looking at your profile i'm convinced you're a crazy loser who spends his pitiful life riding the black man's dick to help your low self-esteem

Fucking Loser

[Elmore3141]

Eldridge Cleaver was more intelligent than most negroes, but he was still just a negro spouting excuses for the failure of his racial group to thrive in the world's greatest country. Negroes are always coming up with some cockamamie theory or another, for their failures. The truth is that they are low-IQ subhumans from sub-Saharan Africa. They don't belong in modern cities, living among civilized people. They should move to one of the many black-majority black-governed countries in Africa.

[DesertMountainSunset]

@Elmore3141 I'm curious...Where do you think that Whites descended from? They surely did not descend from the staircase to heaven. When Eldridge Cleaver gave this speech, Blacks were still fighting for equal rights in this country. If you consistently beat a child, for right or wrong...that child WILL develop deep psychiological impairments. If you tell this child that they are ugly, day in, day out, this child will develop deep psychiological impairments.

[Elmore3141]

@DesertMountainSunset You won't understand this, but the fact that whites and blacks originated in the same place and with the same genetics is immaterial. It's what happened later on, over the past 60,000 years, that matters. All land animals originated in the sea, hundreds of millions of years ago. So does that mean no land animal can be superior to any other? Of course not. Evolution is a continuous process. Some groups of humans have advanced further than others.

[DesertMountainSunset]

@Elmore3141 Malcolm X, Kathleen Cleaver, Angela Davis, did not have to develop fallacies to spite White men. The proof was already available. The evidence was laid bare. Africans were packed aboard ship in inhumane conditions and brought to America to endure decades of rape, murder, torture. I did not make this up. Read into the psychology behind African slavery in the America's. Even after the "official" abolition of slavery...Jim Crow laws, KKK, segregation, "Blackface", "Mammy character"...

[SwitchbladeKitty]

I've heard this song (Ballad of a Thin Man) used twice in reference to the Black Panthers. Can someone explain to me it's significance?

[publica74]

"Speaking to an all white, Orange County Audience" There was a reason why that crowd was all white...

[BigStick3456]

The Irony os ironies! Reagan went on to become President by giving some damn good speeches over a peanut farmer. To top that all of, Cleaver voted for him in 1980/1984.

[MPArmstrong84]

Eldridge Clever is and was a fake phony ass motha fucker!!!

[spayspay]

He talks badly about Reagan here, but supports him in the 1980's. :-(

[Uberaoshi]

its too bad he continued using coccaine. And later he liked Rev. Moon.

Wow and but then he admitted he voted for Reagan in 1980.

[TheMethadoneParty]

Bob Dylan's music is awesome lol not to get off subject or anything lol

[Jabbaro123]

No offense to Eldrige Cleaver but he has lost some love from me because of how he practiced rape on black women just to sharpen his kills to rape black women. I don't condone that rape crap and yes he's an intelligent man but dang.

[DASD30]

@Jabbaro123 so you also lost love from Malcolm for being a former pimp, drug dealer and prisoner as well?? remember its not where you from its where you at bruh

[Jabbaro123]

@DASD30 I respect the mans knowledge but even Huey questioned the man in his book. Heck even when he was in the panthers he still had his issues especially when he kissed James Baldwin at a secret meeting.

[DASD30]

@Jabbaro123 the man was in jail for sometime still cant 4get tht shit

[BigStick3456]

@Jabbaro123 He practiced rape on white woman. I know that's not what you ment, but just in case someone else gets confused.

[Jabbaro123]

@BigStick3456 Yeah i ment to say he practiced on black women in the ghetto to sharpen his skills for the white women he raped. He explains it in his book Soul on Ice.

[athrunmanly]

@Jabbaro123 after he converted to Latter day saints religion and became a republican. I 'm sure if he was still alive today and in politics he would be focused on raping muslims in afghanistan

[Jabbaro123]

@athrunmanly I don't know about that.

[DaHonestAbe]

I always enjoy some Reagan Bashing.

[Uberaoshi]

@DaHonestAbe Wldridge Cleaver became a "born again Christian" and Reagan supporter in the 1980s. And he lost his faith in communism.

[jadenwoods11]

this was so hott..... i wanna sleep with him...

[curtisjones400]

THE bLACK Panthers were needed back then-Power To the People

[QueenRealTyme]

they needed now

[blacksupaman1]

@curtisjones400 - they are still needed more than ever now!!!!!

[brnleague99]

Lynchin Baines Johnson. Damn. LOL.

[thabigao]

eldrigdge...sup thug

[brotherwise]

Also JFede32, fascism requires the union of state power and corporate power under a dictatorship whose ideology combines belligerent nationalism and racism. The Black Panthers were none of the above. The Panthers made alliances with other radical groups - european, asian, latino etc., none of the groups were 'white liberals' or members of the 'Democratic Party' because 'liberals' and 'Democrats' are REFORMIST while the Black Panthers and their allies(of all colors) were REVOLUTIONARY!

[brotherwise]

Ok JFede32, here's how it goes.  Cleaver before his surrender to the FBI in 1975 after years of exile in Cuba, Algeria and France was a radical intellectual and Black liberationist rebel. After being tortured and imprisoned for 2 years by the FBI Cleaver then 'surprisingly' sold out and rejected Black liberation theory in favor of assimilationist counter-revolutionary jargon.

[JFede32]

The same Eldridge Cleaver that was begging to come back to the U.S. after spending time in Communist countries?

The same Eldridge Cleaver that said "I would rather be in jail in America than free anywhere else"? The same Eldridge Cleaver that said "I was wrong and the Black Panthers were wrong..." The Black Panthers were nothing but a fascist domestic terrorist faction of the Democratic Party funded and used by a bunch of white liberals.

[Uberaoshi]

This guy is a true patriot and also real American.

[ashnar82]

i d ont know if he voted for regan, but i did read both soul on ice and soul on fire, two of the finest books i have ever read

[ZaleOutlaw]

eldridge cleaver is a weird character. i read soul on ice as well. but then i later found out that he became a mormon, became a conservative republican, and also endorsed reagan. its hard to believe but cleaver completely did a 180 and sold out! he denounced the power structure but then endorsed reagan, one of the most repressive presidents against blacks ever! i think cleaver is a coward and just goes where the wind blows.

[godzman7]

he served his purpose. so did malcolm x, and muhammad ali. in the end they all fell to the enormous pressure which was placed on them. after yacub went to work and created the devil again for the second time and created a division. my people who were on the verge of revolution allowed him to be eaten by this wretched racist beast called amerikkka.

[ZaleOutlaw]

if you believe in the yakub theory, then you believe in elijah muhammad, if you belive in elijah muhammad, then you believe that fard muhammad was allah in the flesh, if you believe that fard muhammad was allah in the flesh, then you are absolutely nuts. Malcolm X made more sense in the last year of his life then elijah muhammad ever made in his 78years of life. Also, if you check Fard's FBI File, HE IS A WHITE MAN. SO HOW COULD A PERSON CALL THE WHITE MAN A DEVIL, BUT WORSHIP HIM AS GOD? LOL!!

[godzman7]

was fard white or an half original? yakub was an original man who created the devil if you wanted to make a stronger point. malcolm sucombed to the white power structure. i guess he did make sense to you because he stop calling you by your proper and well deserved name. DEVIL. YOU CAN bump your fucking gums all you want to but history is more than sufficient to support my claim!

[ZaleOutlaw]

No. Yakub did not make the devil race. Satan and eve mated and it produced cain. the desecendants of cain is the devil race. Allah put a mark on cain. Adam and eve mated and produced seth. Humans are descendants of Seth. Adam is a black man. And Malcolm X didnt run to the white man. The pale arabs in the middle east are not WHITE! The ARYAN/NORDIC people are WHITE! Malcolm X started the OAAU and he did not allow WHITES! The pale arabs got more color than fard muhammad ! you need to wake up bro!

[godzman7]

here we go again with the adam and eve saga. the shit is meant to be symbolic and not to be taken literally. no alpha, no omega! i've always been here. no malcolm didn't run to the white man, he fell to their deception. arabs not white? ok i'll give u that, what about tan cracker!

[ZaleOutlaw]

listen brotha, fard muhammad is not allah. you need to find who the creator is. Nation of Islam does not speak any truth. In the end, Elijah Muhammad was wrong, and so was Malcolm X, but at least Malcolm X got into ACTION. NOI will never get any true respect cause all they do is talk, but they dont fight. When ronald stokes, a member of the NOI in los angeles, was killed by the LAPD in 1962, wut did the NOI do about it? NOTHING! But yet the NOI killed Malcolm?! NOI is so brainwashed

[godzman7]

Zealots within the NOI killed malcolm. you can't blame the whole nation for that. as far as elijah being wrong i don't think so! although you are entitled to yours. if u really listened to elijah you know that he always said that we were not in position to stage an arm revolution.("message to a blackman") this book is so prophetic that you would be astonished. I challenge you to shoot down his credibility by reading that book and get back with me. forgive my earlier ignorance.

[ZaleOutlaw]

Malcolm called the white man the devil in public for over 12 years, but when Kennedy gets killed, he barely said anything and he gets kicked out the NOI? thats the biggest hypocrisy ever. Kennedy was a devil and he deserved what he got. The NOI got balls to kill Malcolm, but yet when a white devil president gets killed by another white devil, the NOI turns into an uncle tom,and kicks malcolm out! and why should negroes be afraid to revolution if they allah and the messenger on their side?!

[godzman7]

because what you associate with god allah are myths and things that go against sound right reasoning. what you call god is only the original man consciousness and mind elevation. thats why the holy quran frequently refers to patience and perserverance! ENDURANCE my friend is that unltimate factor that will aid the choosen few. the open enemies to allah(arm, leg,leg,arm,head) will be upended by nature. Don't go against the grain of the righteousness like your people are doing. U CAN'T WIN!

[ZaleOutlaw]

NO, you mean what YOU call GOD is the "original man consciousness and mind elevation". I believe that god is ALLAH, the unseen, the creator of all that exists, the one and only most high god, and god is not a MAN, nor did he come to earth in the form of a man, ever! The NOI is a blasphemous cult that worships whoever is their leader for the time being, Fard, Elijah, and now Farrakhan. They cant use weapons, and they make farrakhan a rich man to preach falsehood. The whole thing is just stupid.

[godzman7]

did u say stupid? but you say god allah is unseen. i won't waste anymore time trying to raise your wig. knowledge comes in degrees thats why the quran refers to 7 heavens and 7 hells. no need to reply back. stalemate!

[ZaleOutlaw]

the qur'aan speaks of seven heavens, which are layered on top of each other, and the earth being under the lowest heaven. These are actual places, realms. You really need to read it in arabic in order to understand it! And nowhere in the qur'aan does it speak of seven hells, and if it does, tell me which verse in the qur'aan so i can read it myself! If you dont read the qur'aan in arabic, you're gonna end up believing in false prophets like EJM LOL !

[godzman7]

allah is all right and exact! everything is in due measure. why wouldnt you think torment is'nt given justly as is bliss and comfort. although you are on some wizard of oz shit with your concept of heaven. anyway like i said you be good. i'm out for the last time. peace!

[blacksupaman1]

@ZaleOutlaw- I believe in a superior being, but honestly no one knows what lays ahead after death, I'm not tryna bash your faith (religeon), but "God" put us here to watch over the Earth, which is y a revolution of some sort must take place, the white elite (masons) control all religeons. We need to be concerned about freeing all people, (us in particular) from the new world order. We must destroy and rebuild

[ZaleOutlaw]

@blacksupaman1 masons created "religion"? Islam is simple. Belief in one god, prayer, charity, fasting, pilgrimage, no adultery or fornication, do not lie, steal, kill, or take god's name in vain, honor your parents, do not covet, no materialism, and do not create any images of god, and god does not have any children or "son of god". God is the creator. Something wrong with those beliefs brother?

[blacksupaman1]

@ZaleOutlaw- it's not an issue of wrong. the belief in 1 god, don't lie, steal, kill etc. are common sense ideals, meaning u dont need a preacher of whomever to tell u that. i guess there's nothin wrong with fellowship (religeon, fasting, pilgrimage) but that MAN-MADE, and thats when the bullshit comes, which is y the pope is 1 of the most crooked persons in the illuminati

[ZaleOutlaw]

@blacksupaman1 im not referring to what the pope or the wicked people do. When you read the torah, gospel, and quran, theyre all based on the ten commandments,prayer and charity etc. The holy books teach people to do right. Wicked people choose to be evil. I follow the word of god. moses and jesus said to love god with all your heart, mind and soul, and to love your neighbor. the prophets also said to protect yourself from evil fight and back if you have to. I dont see nothing wrong with that

[blacksupaman1]

@ZaleOutlaw- one thing about the Black Panther Party, they were seriously trying to free us, as opposed to just using rhetoric. They understood that these people needed to be "physically nuetralized". They had the balls to face the u.s. gov't. Since we been here, are true leaders have been Toussant ( Founder of Haiti), Nat Turner, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X and Huey Newton. Who will be next?

[ZaleOutlaw]

@blacksupaman1 well, we live in a different time. I believe the worst part of the physical fight is over. I believe that the people in general have to follow basic laws such as no adultery, fornication, lies, theft etc, and that will build stronger families. Once people build strong families that have close ties of kinship and all think and move alike, then they can make decisions as a group for the better of the people, and even mobilize to repel oppression easily.

[blacksupaman1]

@ZaleOutlaw- u may be right about the noi, but i think originally that folklore was created just to give black folk something to beleive in (make believe or not) to get us off that jim crow house nigger mentality. And for some of us it worked. But i will never forgive the noi for their role in the assasination of Malcolm X

[ZaleOutlaw]

"message to the blackman" more prophetic than the torah and old testament prophets and the qur'aan? you are truly lost my friend.

[godzman7]

dam sun, are you still commenting? be out!

[phonicz10453]

@ZaleOutlaw real talk im feeling that good shit!

[jujuabd]

@ZaleOutlaw True true but nobody wants to say it.

[RobGoth100]

This idiot ended up voting for Reagan 15 years later. True story.

[DFWOODSII]

I met the man!!! RIP Mr. Cleaver

[seans10]

I prefer the latter crazy right-wing fundamentalist christian Eldridge to the rapiing, crazy black radical Eldridge.

[schokipoki]

thats racist

[Uberaoshi]

same here

[pachacutti]

Eldridge knew James Earl Ray was a simple scapegoat for Martin Luther Kings murder.... its taken over 40 years for people to figure that one.

[MegaDullard]

@pachacutti THIS DUDE IS HIGH!!!

[brotherwise]

represent Eldridge, represent. this is a classic.

[cgreen1583]

That's very true what he said about Reagan, Reagan didn't have a thought in his head.