Prop 8 Protests Go National

[bndkllr2]

Basically the anti-gay folks are down to three arguments:

1. Marriage is between a man and woman, because I said so!

2. If gays can marry, my power to discriminate against them will be diminished!

3. Gays are intolerant for not tolerating intolerance!

Today they say there's a storm coming. Tomorrow they'll probably say gay marriage causes global warming.

It's scary to think that these folks have had almost total control of our government including our nuclear codes for so long!

[acordian]

I loled

[Dying4L0ve]

Homosexuals are not asking for special treatment. To deny them any right that a heterosexual is welcome to is an act of discrimination, plain and simple. Marriage is a legal contract between two people, and is not owned by any religion. It is practiced in many cultures and many religions. Denying it to someone of a different sexual orientation is nothing less than unconstitutional.

[acordian]

nice! exactly

[KresTKroVee]

Homosexuals ARE asking for special treatment. They invade MY rights.

[Roadiepat]

your right to what?? let people live how they want too?

[dammitdexter]

WOOO! San Diego!

[pcolt4]

Wrong. Bigotry won by 52.30% to 47.70%.

[aleksapovseksa]

Oh and traditional marriage, has changed for centuries. You could marry off 13 year old girls (more than one) to old men in ancient times. Many cultures have arranged marriages that have nothing to do with love.Infertile people, athiests etc. can still get married in America. And these people are neither religious nor in it to start a family.

So legal marriage in the modern sense has nothing to do with religion or morality. It's a choice.

[landl08]

Hey Nextdrink: Maybe you should look up minority in a dictionary, you might learn something.....In Peace

[landl08]

Come on people lets keep it peaceful...this is about love....Thanks Columbus and Little Rock, From a Greatful California Lesbian..In Peace

[YrSoObvious]

Wooo hoo! Love ya Rachel Maddow for covering this! :D

[QMFIMPROV]

WOW THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. I was in the Seattle protest and we had 6,000 plus supporters. LET'S KEEP DOING IT MY FRIENDS!!!! We don't need to fight anyone, but just keep on marching and spreading the love. IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE.

[azcolvin429]

AMAZING! Phoenix had 4000! Theres been calculated over 2 million protesters nation wide! LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD!

Keep up the good fight! Change for 2009!!!

[victor2cutube]

wonder why there wasn't a couple 100 k surely there must be a few more gay people in the seattle area.. this affect everyone not just 6,000 people.. what is needed is a million person march in DC !!

[Davesfavutube]

Thank you, Columbus, OH! Thanks you, Little Rock, AR! We in California are extremely grateful to all our fellow Americans across our great nation who are standing up in opposition to Prop. 8! Thanks.

[victor2cutube]

what happened in Columbus and little rock ?

[Davesfavutube]

Little Rock and Columbus also held "No on Prop. 8" rallies/protests to support same-gender marriage rights.

[GretchenDawntreader]

I was on the streets of Columbus OH today for the nationwide protests, it went well despite persistent rain.

[Aerophire]

Don't even bother with this type. Just have to wait for these to die off...

[matthewandrew]

we shall overcome.

[daytraderaz]

One more thing. Here is what is actually happening. The correct headline should be:'

"Gay Activists Protest Democracy"

They are upset that the people of california have voted in a free election. They wrongly believe that such matters are better left in the hands of judges.

[BeatBuddy]

The correct headline should be: "Gay Activists Defend Liberty." Evidently you don't know the difference between democracy and liberty. The courts have declared marriage a right; rights are guaranteed, and neither are they arbitrary.

Democracy = tyranny of the majority

Liberty = the rights of individuals

Most of the Founding Fathers disdained democracy because they knew what it always leads to. That is why we have a Bill of Rights.

[SeanChapin1]

dayraderaz, do you understand the importance of freedom, equality and justice in the USA? These are the core values by which our Country was founded, and the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution clearly states that no state "shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Prop 8 is fundamentally unconstitutional, and you should be upset about this passing like the rest of us.

[daytraderaz]

its your choice to be perverse, but don't think the rest of us will go along.

There is nothing new here. The only thing that changed was that the people told Judges that they couldn't override the will of the people.

Only liberals see justice when one gay judge can override the will of the people of the state. This is the concept of 'ruling' the people which is the term you are hearing Obamas people use.

[BeatBuddy]

The Courts are bound by the Constitution, not the will of the people. The will of the people has often been taken to court because they were perceived to be unconstitutional. It seems to me that you understand the nature of democracy, but have little concept of the nature of individual liberty.

[NightAirwolf]

I vote Yes! I am proud of it! I keep on voting Yes! Yeah!

[flpete]

hello nightairwolf. can you tell people here why you voted for this discriminating ruling?

[NightAirwolf]

Easy, can queers have their own kids? No. Was queers born by a man and a woman? Yes! Does queers know what sex they are? No! Queers live in a make believe world. That's a fact! Where did marriage come from? The BIBLE. If queers don't believe in the Bible. Why is queers are useing marriage from the Bible? Make no sense! Does it!

[justinfoster121]

GRAMMATICAL CORRECTION: In the "make believe" world I live in, we use proper English. Therefore, when referring to us "queers" please TRY to make your plural and singular nouns agree with their modifiers. Its were not 'was' and do not 'does'. As for this mess:"If queers don't believe in the Bible. Why is queers are useing marriage from the Bible? Make no sense! Does it!"; this queer doesn't get paid enough to correct idiots. Maybe it's time to substitute my reality for your own.

[NightAirwolf]

Hey fag, I am not appling for your fag school!lol, If you don't like my english. Don't read it! Dumass! Does that, make sense for you, fag? I guess, not! Have one your fag buddies, slap you a couple of times! Until you get it. lol

[justinfoster121]

At least you proof-read this time :-)

[gogoandrew]

Hey ugly white trash~ get a fucking life you piece of shit white trash!!!!

[danijel223]

FUCK OFF HOMOPHOBE!

[Davesfavutube]

[Who are you directing that comment at?]

[Davesfavutube]

Who is the "homophobe" you are addressing your comment to? Most the comments - including my own - are SUPPORTIVE of gay marriage rights.

[Davesfavutube]

Dude, read my comments. I am SUPPORTING Gay rights, not opposing them. I am thanking the people of Ohio and Arkansas - the people who showed up to SUPPORT gay marriage. Do you understand that I am SUPPORTING equal rights for LGBT people?? Do you understand that you and I both stand on the same side of this issue? Peace out.

[NightAirwolf]

Plus, they will get our kids! Now who wants kids call queers mommies or daddies? DISGUSTING!

[flpete]

hello nightairolf. Listen i'l be glad to talk rational with you once you let go of the hate & distorted behavior you have

about a group of people. everyone will read you hateful post.

[NightAirwolf]

Really, I don't care about queers and what they think of me. It's not hate. I just telling queers, the way is! ha ha. Queers want you to agree with them or you. So they can have their free ticket! Disgusting! They are the evil people of the human race! If queers want to get marry. Why don't they make a fake marriage certificate? Works in their fairy world and their make believe world! lol

[danijel223]

Once again: FUCK OFF HOMOPHOBE!!!

Thank God your kind will soon become extinct!

PS: my previous comment was also directed at you, HOMOPHOBIC IDIOT!

[Davesfavutube]

OMG, danijet223, are you one drugs or just plain dumb?? Please clear the confusion: Are YOU for .. or against ... same-sex marriage? And, dude, put down the pipe and pick up a dictionary!!

[Rockgod2099]

Kudos to GLN for making it national!

[slicbro]

Rachel we all know you are a lesbian and your are strongly advocating for the rights of your community, but be fair when telling the truth. Proposition 8 came about a long time ago when the voters of California turned down the idea of gay marriage. Some activist judges on the state level decided that they didnt care and turned down the will of the people. They legislated from the bench. So those rigths were temporary. The people got mad and call them out on it.A referendum was called and viola!

[silvereclipse]

I think the protest should not only focus on prop 8 but the other propositions as well. Like the most despicable prop passed in Arkansas banning adoption for singles, unmarried, and gay couples.

I also think if these religious morons hold dear the word marriage, it should be taken out of the secular government and replace it with civil unions with equal rights given to homosexuals and heterosexuals. From there, anyone religious or not, gay or str8 can freely label their union as marriages.

[silvereclipse]

Also, minority civil rights should be protected from majority vote. U.S.A is moreof a Constitutional Republic than a democracy because if the majority were the rule of law then slavery could still exist if the majority were the rule of law.

[silvereclipse]

*if the majority favors slavery*

[djdicrispino]

Ha!!! You can see me video taping your speech!

[corksterx1]

taking rights away from a specific group of individuals, specifically a minority group losing rights, is not a voter choice. interracial marriage was not a voter choice. ending slavery was not a voter choice. giving women the right to vote was not a voter choice. TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TO MARRY from gay people is not a voter choice!

[nextdrink45]

I have a problem with these protests for two reasons....

1. I think that all this protesting would have made a difference had they been doen PRIOR to the election. Now that it's over and the prop passed again, all this energy is just wasted. Let the lawsuits run thier course.

2. If you think about it, the people in the streets are protesting DEMOCRACY! Which is what made this country great! A prop was put out, & it got voted on by the people. That's DEMOCRACY!

[nextdrink45]

Just because you may not like the results, DEMOCRACY occured! This prop is already inacted, just let the lawsuits run thier course and see what happens. You can't turn back the clock to get what you what.

BTW, I voted NO on this prop!

[dbmcvey]

Civil rights are too important to be left up to popular vote. Civil rights in this country have ALWAYS been decided in the court. DEMOCRACY also has to protect the minority from the majority so NO it's not great, Democracy didn't occur bigotry did.

[dbmcvey]

I take it you didn't have YOUR rights voted away. No, it's not great that people had their rights voted away and protesting is also democracy.

[nextdrink45]

First, I did say that I voted NO on this prop.

Second, a gay or lesbian are not considered a "minority" in the eyes of the law. In the eyes of the law, being gay or lesbian is a lifestyle. A minority refers to ethnic backround.You have the right to protest anything you want, and yes that is democracy. But I still think this would have had an impact had it been done PRIOR to the election. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, does not make them a "bigot". Let the courts decide.

[dbmcvey]

I don't care what the eyes of the law view gay and lesbians as--there was a time in the eyes of the law that blacks were considered to be not full human beings. And whether these protests would have had more effect prior to the election is pretty much a moot point, they actually seem to be having an effect now. I happen to think that the people who voted for this bigoted law acted in bigoted ways whether they consider themselves bigots or not. WE'RE TALKING CIVIL RIGHTS.

[nextdrink45]

Hey bud, remember I voted NO on this prop also and am obviously not as one sided as you are. I don't agree with throwing the word "bigot" around as a lot of others are. Those that voted for this law merely have a differing opinion than you and I. That does not make them "bigots". I just look at the other side of the coin. I hope you get what you want. I have my beliefs and you have yours. That is democracy at it's finest. Good luck to ya.

[dbmcvey]

I don't think you can be too one sided when it comes to civil rights, and yes it does make people bigots when they view them as less than deserving of civil rights. You keep saying you voted no--thank you--but you didn't have your rights voted away so I don't think you understand the anger over this. No, it's not democracy at its finest, its democracy at its worst.

[BeatBuddy]

"Those that voted for this law merely have a differing opinion than you and I."

That may be true, but it can't be denied that bigots are on the bandwagon. Those who voted yes may not all be bigots, but they are, without exception, prejudiced. Bigotry and prejudice are two different things, albeit most people use them interchangeably.

[BeatBuddy]

You're silly. If homosexuals are not a minority, then it must be that there are more homosexuals than heterosexuals, right? Some of us see through this chicanery of denying gays as a minority. It's a tactic used by bigots in an attempt to lessen the impact of gay civil rights.

As for bigotry, it's not disagreement that makes people into bigots; it's HOW they disagree. As Justice Holmes said, "The bigot is like the pupil of an eye; the more light you shed on it, the more it contracts."