I think the proper heat of the compost (perhaps along with its usual organic breakdown) takes care of it. There may be extra ways to ensure that too. The permaculture folks should know, so try a Google for permaculture.
With regard to this "Victorian" discussion about how they apparently took care of waste; I'm unsure that they had the kind of understanding of bacterial and other health issues associated with waste as we now do.
Secondary to eating is pissing and crapping. I should think that the issue of what to do with excrement would be the second most important survival skill of any group of humans.
Oh, my...I think I have seen everything NOW. I do recycle! I do have a garden! I do have a compost pile. I do feed the birds! But this is ridiculous! I know my dogs pee and poo on my grass and it KILLS THE GRASS! Two looney tunes if you ask me. Al Gore, Please Stand Down! Plug your ears!
@GraceiamSAVED animal waste has to decompose before it can be used as fertiliser. In its raw form it has too much nitrogen, burning your precious grass.
@GraceiamSAVED oh my, your a twit. all our food is grown in shit of some kind. whats the difference here. stop talking like a middle class hippie, and dont leave inane and dumb ass comments.
@jibhorse You go ahead and recycle your waste. This video is propaganda and disgusting! We pay a service for waste material to be "recycled". I live in a civilized city. We have come a "long way baby" from when my great grandparents had an outhouse! I go to H.D, Lowes,Walmart to buy manure for our beautiful garden. We had a GREAT garden. More veggies than we could eat so plenty to share. This video puts us back in the dark ages. Call me a "twit" if it makes you feel better. LOL
@GraceiamSAVED what the fuck are you on about?? I think in your garden you're growing some funny weed and you sound like a fucken snob! Maybe you should be on the 'how can I make my next million dollar' site? Cheerio.
Nothing like downloading the 'Pee and Poo Show' at a cafe sipping a green tea latte and about to watch it. ;)
I recently saw a Pacific Island composting toilet/system docu on YouTube.
Apparently, they were polluting their groundwater "lense" (fragile ecosystem) with runoff, etc., and using an inordinate amount of water for "nothing" to flush. Composting seems the way to go (pun intended too).
Are there any special considerations with venting to prevent an explosion? I have read that poo (animal and human) give off a natural gas that is explosive/flammable. Does the salt in the urine create any problems? When the poo has composted for a year and is dry and crumbly, is that a guarantee that there are no bad bacteria in it? Can dog poo (with sawdust) be added to it? Thanks for another informative video.
I really can't see urban areas moving to this until their backs are really against the wall in regards to water supply. Would make sense for the urban areas to find ways to reclaim greywater for toilet use as it is. I wonder if America's farmland could handle all of the human waste that's created? In my home a separate urinal would be installed.
ull all be surprized how little crap u get for your compost, its just a tiny amount in a year per person! All this infrastructure humans made for that is insane!
One of your best videos yet. I'll show my wife this video and discuss converting the family home in the Philippines to use a composting toilet. It's going to take a lot of planning, though, because the Philippines IS a tropical country. So it has the draw back of potentially spreading disease and the benefit of composting faster because I think I can make containers to trap tremendous amounts of heat. We also have a lot of rain, so we'll need to construct an area with a roof for composting.
my grandparents had an outhouse till the late 80s...i worked in a wilderness facility for troubled kids ..we used an out house..and built urinals out of pvc pipe in gravel holes ....a little lime and the smell is gone....and you dont destroy the environment and waste 1000s of gallons of water for no reason...and you can build a biogas digester and make methane for heating.
a few hundred years ago they thought that all you had to do to cure someone's craziness, hysteria (mental illness) was cut a hole in their head and let the evil out. i think we've evolved juuuuust ever so much that we can handle growing our own friggin food. I personally do NOT want to be ..uh.."dealing", i'll say, with my poopy, but look around. look how effed up the planet is. it's not hard. you're not expected to do evrything yrself. that's where COOPERATION comes in.
there's no way in hell we're taking a step back into the middle ages when we have the technologies we have today.done properly, and believe you me we'll all be doing SOME type of this stuff-we'll have no choice. we really haven't had a "choice", this has been inevitable while we were busy looking the other way. people in other countries have been living similarly for hundreds of years and someone's complaining that it's not ..what.. sanitary? are you smart enough to wash your hands?
We lived with diseases for centuries, before we discovered what caused it. Now we are taking a step back into the dark ages, buy injecting the same into our personal enviroment.
@Auggie56 No this is not a step back to the middles ages. U R right we know what causes the diseases, but there are multiple ways to deal with the causes . Anyway we are still injecting them into the environment. Have a conversation with those living down stream.
Have yet to see the vid, but will comment that, apparently, the heat, etc., of composting, if done properly, will kill most, if not all, of the dangerous stuff.
I seem to recall a permaculture docu on spraying organic waste over a designated ground area, and after a short time, the naturally-occurring organisms did their work and rendered the "sewage" "inert"-- this was with the caveat that nothing "artificial" or non-biodegradable was allowed to be added to that system.
@Auggie56 No , back then raw sewage was thrown from peoples windows into the street every night or was thrown into the local waterway thus causing disease to spread.
She already said in the video that 250 billion gallons of raw sewerage is pumped into the sea from the USA alone. The modern way to treat sewerage is incredibly wasteful and potentially unsustainable. After 2 years this stuff is completely inert, but please look around and find out for yourself.
@hablerz ---Oh come ON ! Raw sewage was not "thrown" from windows onto streets. It was collected in buckets and disposed of by people in charge of that job.
@durgaaa Yea people emptied the cess pits and took the night soil , but a proportion of people didnt have access to those facilities and just threw it out of the window.
@hablerz --do you have proof that this happened? If they "threw it out the window" how long would passers- by put up with that action in a populated city ? Not very long, I imagine! Only the mentally ill would be so ignorant as to throw fecal material out any window. You carry it to a hole in the ground and bury it.
@durgaaa They still did this in the slums of Victorian London and certainly in earlier times.
It was well known if you went walking in some areas you might get hit with an unpleasant barage , it was called slopping out. It was common in Doctor Johnsons day (The guy that wrote the dictionary).
The reason they have Iron foot scrapers at the front of some old houses in England is because the streets were full of fith you had to get off your shoes before entering.
@hablerz -now that's more convincing ! But doesn't that make you wonder how England could be so backward that recently? Even the Romans a longer time ago than that surely did not have to duck from "slopping out" ? What kind of human could not figure out how to fill a bucket and take it somewhere OTHER than right in front of their own house ! ? What century are you talking about ?
@durgaaa Only the Roman elite had plumbing , the Rome of the 1st century AD with nearly 1 million inhabitants was not very different from London in the 17th century.
Imagine that kind of populace all packed together with only the most basic facilities, in cramped streets and cramped houses.
Id say slopping out was still happening in the early 19th century in England in certain areas.
@hablerz -- I still can't figure why folks simply did not collect in buckets and transport to a central collection point, Can you ? It's so very logical and cleaner. Kinda like you walk four blocks to drop a letter in the mailbox. How could any citizens or city fathers put up with that backward stench and horror. No better than dogs crapping anywhere.
how sad that we have to worry about legality when it comes to things that are natural, or requiring a permit. We are messed up as a species, well the system is. The criminal system are runned by criminals that don't care about the environment or our health, we are slaves and an income source for them.
Thank you for putting this out there. When Joseph Jenkins first wrote his book "The Humanure Handbook" he didn't even expect to sell any copies. What happened was a surprise even reaching the best seller list. If done properly it is sanitary and odor free with a noticeable reduction in water usage saving you money and providing you with the most nutritious compost you've ever used. You can enter "The Humanure Handbook" into any search engine and find a free copy in PDF format. 5 Stars:)
@tcbink However Jenkins has stated more research needs to be done, before this compost can be considered safe human food production at the scale needed to handle all of America human waste.
Flusing a toilette has always bothered me on some level because I know it has to be separated somewhere down the line.
I would have designed the service door differently. The air vent blocks the door from swinging all the way up against the wall. I'd have cut the door a bit more narrow and left the vent on one side, so it doesn't interfere. Then you wouldn't have to bend so low to empty the containers.
I'd also install a dryer booster fan in the vent line, & power it from the light switch. That way there would be a constant air flow that would prevent air from the storage chamber from entering the bathroom.
I would have located the urine container outside of the house and ran the hose to it there. You see, water is heavy and if that 5 gallon container is even half full it would be a strain to wrestle it out of that storage box. If it's located in a box outside of the house however, it's easy
Very interesting. Lots of additional work to use the facilities, but for those who are dedicated to this idea with passion, it sounds completely doable. I think people that are less than 100% committed should avoid this kind of thing, simply because I think it will cause problems and give the process a bad name. Great video!!!
where do you get the separating liquid seat. i am interested in purchasing to build my own composting toilet .
mjfinleysr1 1 month ago
@mjfinleysr1, go to Laura's website, which is credited in the program. I think she may have mentioned the source at the ending wrapup.
There's a link to her website at Peak Moment website, peakmoment-dot-tv, click at left on conversations, search episode 172. ~Janaia
peakmoment 1 month ago
If it's too dry it won't compost.
whisperingsage 1 month ago
But separating the pee slows down the composting action- the pee is also the nitrogen part of the compost. Why separate?
whisperingsage 1 month ago
It's amazing that this family could do so much with so little land included in their lot.
Nilyentaraka 1 year ago
How do you minimize risks with E. coli if you use the compost for your garden? Burn it before use?
Soldier957 1 year ago
@Soldier957:
I think the proper heat of the compost (perhaps along with its usual organic breakdown) takes care of it. There may be extra ways to ensure that too. The permaculture folks should know, so try a Google for permaculture.
With regard to this "Victorian" discussion about how they apparently took care of waste; I'm unsure that they had the kind of understanding of bacterial and other health issues associated with waste as we now do.
Glomerol 1 year ago
Secondary to eating is pissing and crapping. I should think that the issue of what to do with excrement would be the second most important survival skill of any group of humans.
durgaaa 1 year ago
Fecophobia
Gardensnog 1 year ago
its all good, have a look at that garden. go girl.
jibhorse 1 year ago
Oh, my...I think I have seen everything NOW. I do recycle! I do have a garden! I do have a compost pile. I do feed the birds! But this is ridiculous! I know my dogs pee and poo on my grass and it KILLS THE GRASS! Two looney tunes if you ask me. Al Gore, Please Stand Down! Plug your ears!
GraceiamSAVED 1 year ago
@GraceiamSAVED animal waste has to decompose before it can be used as fertiliser. In its raw form it has too much nitrogen, burning your precious grass.
unloads 1 year ago
@GraceiamSAVED oh my, your a twit. all our food is grown in shit of some kind. whats the difference here. stop talking like a middle class hippie, and dont leave inane and dumb ass comments.
jibhorse 1 year ago
@jibhorse You go ahead and recycle your waste. This video is propaganda and disgusting! We pay a service for waste material to be "recycled". I live in a civilized city. We have come a "long way baby" from when my great grandparents had an outhouse! I go to H.D, Lowes,Walmart to buy manure for our beautiful garden. We had a GREAT garden. More veggies than we could eat so plenty to share. This video puts us back in the dark ages. Call me a "twit" if it makes you feel better. LOL
GraceiamSAVED 1 year ago
@GraceiamSAVED what the fuck are you on about?? I think in your garden you're growing some funny weed and you sound like a fucken snob! Maybe you should be on the 'how can I make my next million dollar' site? Cheerio.
jibhorse 1 year ago
@jibhorse Please accept my apology. I never intended to offend but was just speaking my opinion. I shall not offend you any further.
GraceiamSAVED 1 year ago
Nothing like downloading the 'Pee and Poo Show' at a cafe sipping a green tea latte and about to watch it. ;)
I recently saw a Pacific Island composting toilet/system docu on YouTube.
Apparently, they were polluting their groundwater "lense" (fragile ecosystem) with runoff, etc., and using an inordinate amount of water for "nothing" to flush. Composting seems the way to go (pun intended too).
Maybe back again after viewing.
Glomerol 1 year ago
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outofworkbum 1 year ago
When she touched the netting on the new moulderer, it really grossed me out.
phantomcreamer 1 year ago 8
@phantomcreamer I guess is a question of perspective, but if you ask me it is far more grosser to use perfectly drinking water to flush human feces.
magua73 1 year ago
Are there any special considerations with venting to prevent an explosion? I have read that poo (animal and human) give off a natural gas that is explosive/flammable. Does the salt in the urine create any problems? When the poo has composted for a year and is dry and crumbly, is that a guarantee that there are no bad bacteria in it? Can dog poo (with sawdust) be added to it? Thanks for another informative video.
christo930 1 year ago
Great video! I'm glad i've managed to get my pee/poo flushed with a mixture of rainwater and water from the shower, but this would be much better!
jfrogto 1 year ago
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ShannyCleaner 1 year ago
I really can't see urban areas moving to this until their backs are really against the wall in regards to water supply. Would make sense for the urban areas to find ways to reclaim greywater for toilet use as it is. I wonder if America's farmland could handle all of the human waste that's created? In my home a separate urinal would be installed.
westkan 1 year ago
ull all be surprized how little crap u get for your compost, its just a tiny amount in a year per person! All this infrastructure humans made for that is insane!
Axbent 1 year ago
gotta keep em separated hey hey hey, unless you're a bird
greenteen85 1 year ago
And I thought my username was funny :-)
HelpsYouPoop 1 year ago
One of your best videos yet. I'll show my wife this video and discuss converting the family home in the Philippines to use a composting toilet. It's going to take a lot of planning, though, because the Philippines IS a tropical country. So it has the draw back of potentially spreading disease and the benefit of composting faster because I think I can make containers to trap tremendous amounts of heat. We also have a lot of rain, so we'll need to construct an area with a roof for composting.
manilaenglish 1 year ago
my grandparents had an outhouse till the late 80s...i worked in a wilderness facility for troubled kids ..we used an out house..and built urinals out of pvc pipe in gravel holes ....a little lime and the smell is gone....and you dont destroy the environment and waste 1000s of gallons of water for no reason...and you can build a biogas digester and make methane for heating.
centervilletn 1 year ago
a few hundred years ago they thought that all you had to do to cure someone's craziness, hysteria (mental illness) was cut a hole in their head and let the evil out. i think we've evolved juuuuust ever so much that we can handle growing our own friggin food. I personally do NOT want to be ..uh.."dealing", i'll say, with my poopy, but look around. look how effed up the planet is. it's not hard. you're not expected to do evrything yrself. that's where COOPERATION comes in.
heehee i said poopy.
craffte 1 year ago
there's no way in hell we're taking a step back into the middle ages when we have the technologies we have today.done properly, and believe you me we'll all be doing SOME type of this stuff-we'll have no choice. we really haven't had a "choice", this has been inevitable while we were busy looking the other way. people in other countries have been living similarly for hundreds of years and someone's complaining that it's not ..what.. sanitary? are you smart enough to wash your hands?
craffte 1 year ago
I have waited a lifetime to see a show devoted to pee and poo! Hahahaha! Good info! Thanx!
sizzled28 1 year ago
usable, timely and well done thank you
yonny1954 1 year ago
tierra de caca!
panstriato2 1 year ago
We lived with diseases for centuries, before we discovered what caused it. Now we are taking a step back into the dark ages, buy injecting the same into our personal enviroment.
Auggie56 1 year ago
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MutantChameleon 1 year ago
@Auggie56 How do you mean, by composting waste? How is this regressive?
I think using a scarce resource like clean water to flush human waste to treatment plants is worse.
MutantChameleon 1 year ago
@Auggie56 No this is not a step back to the middles ages. U R right we know what causes the diseases, but there are multiple ways to deal with the causes . Anyway we are still injecting them into the environment. Have a conversation with those living down stream.
westkan 1 year ago
@Auggie56:
Have yet to see the vid, but will comment that, apparently, the heat, etc., of composting, if done properly, will kill most, if not all, of the dangerous stuff.
I seem to recall a permaculture docu on spraying organic waste over a designated ground area, and after a short time, the naturally-occurring organisms did their work and rendered the "sewage" "inert"-- this was with the caveat that nothing "artificial" or non-biodegradable was allowed to be added to that system.
Glomerol 1 year ago
@Auggie56 No , back then raw sewage was thrown from peoples windows into the street every night or was thrown into the local waterway thus causing disease to spread.
She already said in the video that 250 billion gallons of raw sewerage is pumped into the sea from the USA alone. The modern way to treat sewerage is incredibly wasteful and potentially unsustainable. After 2 years this stuff is completely inert, but please look around and find out for yourself.
hablerz 1 year ago 8
@hablerz ---Oh come ON ! Raw sewage was not "thrown" from windows onto streets. It was collected in buckets and disposed of by people in charge of that job.
durgaaa 1 year ago
@durgaaa Yea people emptied the cess pits and took the night soil , but a proportion of people didnt have access to those facilities and just threw it out of the window.
Somer people have no standards i guess.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz --do you have proof that this happened? If they "threw it out the window" how long would passers- by put up with that action in a populated city ? Not very long, I imagine! Only the mentally ill would be so ignorant as to throw fecal material out any window. You carry it to a hole in the ground and bury it.
durgaaa 1 year ago
@durgaaa They still did this in the slums of Victorian London and certainly in earlier times.
It was well known if you went walking in some areas you might get hit with an unpleasant barage , it was called slopping out. It was common in Doctor Johnsons day (The guy that wrote the dictionary).
The reason they have Iron foot scrapers at the front of some old houses in England is because the streets were full of fith you had to get off your shoes before entering.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz -now that's more convincing ! But doesn't that make you wonder how England could be so backward that recently? Even the Romans a longer time ago than that surely did not have to duck from "slopping out" ? What kind of human could not figure out how to fill a bucket and take it somewhere OTHER than right in front of their own house ! ? What century are you talking about ?
durgaaa 1 year ago
@durgaaa Only the Roman elite had plumbing , the Rome of the 1st century AD with nearly 1 million inhabitants was not very different from London in the 17th century.
Imagine that kind of populace all packed together with only the most basic facilities, in cramped streets and cramped houses.
Id say slopping out was still happening in the early 19th century in England in certain areas.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz -- I still can't figure why folks simply did not collect in buckets and transport to a central collection point, Can you ? It's so very logical and cleaner. Kinda like you walk four blocks to drop a letter in the mailbox. How could any citizens or city fathers put up with that backward stench and horror. No better than dogs crapping anywhere.
durgaaa 1 year ago
@durgaaa You can find out more on this interesting topic by searching 'chamber pot England ' on google.
hablerz 1 year ago
@durgaaa Have you ever heard the expression "he hasn't a pot to piss in, nor a window to throw it out of"? The expression came from somewhere!
kashmirdanza 1 year ago
how sad that we have to worry about legality when it comes to things that are natural, or requiring a permit. We are messed up as a species, well the system is. The criminal system are runned by criminals that don't care about the environment or our health, we are slaves and an income source for them.
markangeloc 1 year ago
Thank you for putting this out there. When Joseph Jenkins first wrote his book "The Humanure Handbook" he didn't even expect to sell any copies. What happened was a surprise even reaching the best seller list. If done properly it is sanitary and odor free with a noticeable reduction in water usage saving you money and providing you with the most nutritious compost you've ever used. You can enter "The Humanure Handbook" into any search engine and find a free copy in PDF format. 5 Stars:)
tcbink 1 year ago
@tcbink However Jenkins has stated more research needs to be done, before this compost can be considered safe human food production at the scale needed to handle all of America human waste.
westkan 1 year ago
Will this work for dog & cat feces?
pgm98387 1 year ago
@pgm98387 Yes but I wouldn't use the compost for food production. May be a separate pile and only use this compost for inedible plants.
tcbink 1 year ago
@pgm98387 It may do but you may have trouble getting your cat to use the compost toilet.
hablerz 1 year ago
fantastic! i've been wanting a solar shitter for some time now. thanks for posting!!!
skinnychef 1 year ago
Flusing a toilette has always bothered me on some level because I know it has to be separated somewhere down the line.
I would have designed the service door differently. The air vent blocks the door from swinging all the way up against the wall. I'd have cut the door a bit more narrow and left the vent on one side, so it doesn't interfere. Then you wouldn't have to bend so low to empty the containers.
vention4wh 1 year ago
I'd also install a dryer booster fan in the vent line, & power it from the light switch. That way there would be a constant air flow that would prevent air from the storage chamber from entering the bathroom.
I would have located the urine container outside of the house and ran the hose to it there. You see, water is heavy and if that 5 gallon container is even half full it would be a strain to wrestle it out of that storage box. If it's located in a box outside of the house however, it's easy
vention4wh 1 year ago
I really admire what they've done but when they built it, they could have used a guy like me to help them.
vention4wh 1 year ago
Very interesting. Lots of additional work to use the facilities, but for those who are dedicated to this idea with passion, it sounds completely doable. I think people that are less than 100% committed should avoid this kind of thing, simply because I think it will cause problems and give the process a bad name. Great video!!!
veritasfiles 1 year ago
Shame the tube is plastic (which is dependent on petroleum).
PersianPaladin 1 year ago
Great video!!! Don't you wish the whole world would get on board?
blueeggsitter 1 year ago