Classics: John Stuart Mill -- Utilitarianism

[rgaleny]

Three kinds of human love Eros is the simple pleasures (low), Phelia (Brotherhood), Agape (Quality and Virtue). They will come into conflict. World views aside, there is proportion and protocol.

[rgaleny]

Self interest vs group happiness. The good of the one and the good of the many. Hobbs has a answer about rights.

[rgaleny]

If.

[rgaleny]

You can see what Nietzsche thought of pleasure as an end.

[BENABONZO]

thanks! nailed the philosophy assignment!

[TheLiberalKnight]

John Stuart Mill is one of the greatest economists in all history. Britain must adopt his theories in order to prosper in the 21st century.

[galileogan]

Excellent summary, comprehensive and most clear...

[666joemetal]

UTILITARIAN UNIVERSALISM ROMEO SHAVE ME !!!!!!!!!!

[testmark1]

JS. Mill isn't an authentic utilitarian



[AllanMVarkey]

thank you so much.....helped so much in answering the exam questions

[locomoco2012]

A lor of bull sH!7 to be honest 

[AEVautomatic]

wow what a perv

[VVillowz]

Are you reading this from a book or from your own notes? Cuz, if the latter, then I think you have a talent.

[brii2010x]

This is a great help, my exam is on Thursday and I'm crapping it :) thankyou x

[Annabelleendd]

this was great help :D

[Sloth7d]

And here I was expecting a discussion on utilitarianism in the comments. Instead we're debating over Australian and "camp" accents? Though I'm not sure what can be added to what was said in the video myself but had someone a rebuttal, it would be nice to hear.

[kkurzty]

How do you (even accidently) think this is an Australian accent!!! Have you even spoken to an australian. They arent even anything near this guys accent. WTF !!!! But yeah the "camp" accent is definately a turn off.

[Cienstin]

The Australian accent is a turn off. 

[meloncron]

@Cienstin English you mong

[Cienstin]

@meloncron No, it's Australian.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron It's close to an English accent, but the person is definitely from Australia.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin I am English - what you are hearing is a slightly camp, but still, English accent. Australian is very different.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron Why don't you search 'Australia Parliament' and enlighten yourself. The educated populace in Australia do not entirely speak as if they were from the outback.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin you are embarrassing yourself - I am English - I recognise an English person's voice. This is NOT an Australian accent, it is British - I also have Australian family. You have probably never left America.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron

Don't be presumptuous.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin you mean like you presuming this was an Australian guy? :p

[Cienstin]

@meloncron

No, try enlightening yourself a bit...I know the UK is a small island. Try visiting your other parts of Australia-not just the outback.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin Even though I have been to Australia (Gold Coast) I still would not need to've done to know this is an English accent. To make it simpler for you, it is a homosexual English accent. Americans commonly confuse British and Australian. You are wrong here.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron And am I also confused when I say that an Englishman's English is an homosexual version of American English?

Get a clue...

The guy in the video speaks English closely to an English accent but obvious it's not on the target. There is an Australian quality, especially in his Rs and his pronunciation of open vowels. He attempts to conceal pronunciation markers that would identify him as Australian, but it is not a perfect performance. I'm sure both of us can agree on this last point.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin You are quite truly stupid. The speaker is homosexual - it is a gay voice, a camp voice. It will not sound like a normal English man's voice. This is NOT Australian - an Australian would be offended if you said this sounded like them. Ask any English or Australian person.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron

Wordy...tautologous...Learn to make an argument.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin There is no argument here - it is a camp English accent. Australians tend to raise their pitch at the end of words/sentences. They also pronounce words completely differently. There is 0% Australian in this voice. Listen to a camp English voice - Dale Winton watch?v=CqjDoqWaHpQ&feature=re­lated

[Cienstin]

@meloncron

Also, would you agree on the point that this would be acceptable both on the registers of an English and Australian speaker?

I agree with the point you make that this is more English than Australian, of course.

But, there is a quality in certain aspects of his speech and intonation, as mentioned specifically already, that indicates an Australian speaker attempting English English.

[Cienstin]

@Cienstin No, the inflections are not the same, comparing your "homo" English (Dale Winton).

Watch this:

watch?v=RK3ncaxG308

Let know if you think this is not how the Australian educated class  speak, not in the Australian outback. Let me know if you think that these folks are not speaking English English. This is the standard Australian accent.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin why do you keep mentioning the outback? An Australian accent is clear to hear whether it be from there or from the 'educated' class as you have posted. They clearly have Australian accents and do not sound even barely similar to this guy.

By random chance, for part of my Philosophy course, I stumbled across what appears to be a podcast of this VERY SAME guy, speaking alongside an Australian - I will try to post the link or message it to you. Then you can hear the differences.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron What's his name?

[meloncron]

@Cienstin the podcast is under the section 'Julian Savulescu' (pure coincidence the other guy happened to be Australian) And the guy speaking here appears to be Nigel Warburton of the Open University.

[Cienstin]

@meloncron

I retract my original statement and repose my comment:

The campy accent is a turn off.

[meloncron]

@Cienstin I agree

[meloncron]

@Cienstin philosophybites.libsyn.com/jul­ian_savulescu_on_the_yuk_facto­r

[tactteam00]

this is fantastic. thank you.