MPP Shurman unites Ontario Legislature on Israeli Apartheid Week issue

[onlylettersinname]

ohh its because he is a zionist

[onlylettersinname]

how is israeli aprthied week racist?

[fhqwgads420]

"The use of the phrase Israeli Apartheid Week is about as close to hate speech as one can get without being arrested and I'm not certain it doesn't actually cross that line"

In other words he thinks anyone that disagrees with him on Israel should be arrested.

[steute2011]

Don't Canadians have freedom of speech?

[bgd360]

Wow, now that guy is a true Canadian. How eloquent his words. Unlike me....anti-Israeli protesters are FREAKS!

[Silverwire100]

Jews were in Israel before anyone else historically.

Then in the 20th Century, the Jews became the first people to create a sovereign nation on the land. That nation is Israel.

Israel rightfully belongs to the Jews no matter what perspective you take.

[petersz98]

@Silverwire100

The earliest people in Palestine were the Canaanites going back over 5000 years. Jews are only mentioned for the first time in the Book of Esther in the 3rd century BC in relation to Persia. AshkeNazi Jews are Khazars that converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Sephardic Jews are Berbers that converted to Judaism. No Jewish state has ever existed in Palestine apart from the present day pseudo Jewish state created in 1948.

[Silverwire100]

The Palestinians are not Israelis. The Palestinians are in a DIFFERENT land.

Therefore, there is no "apartheid". The South African apartheid took place within the same country, as white South African oppressors targeted South African blacks based solely on racist views.

[rici613]

Canadian politicians for sale anyone? what Shurman? ...oh so you don't want to talk about the issues, oh, but you do condemn the use of the word aparthied? ...politicians don't have to be the brightest individuals to become elected, just ask the Governator and the "body" :)

[alyn601]

Most of the comments show the ignorance of world history.

The Leftists and Muslims who promote this filth are not even worth debating.

AM YISROEL CHAI

[mkadams99]

Notice how the kike minister states that being anti-Israel is also being anti-Canada.

Jews want non-Jews to fight their wars for them.

[waleedbleek]

this guy is crazy..

[ihavedream]

is this guy high? im just confused. Did he just compare canadian values with that of Isreal? ....

[petersz98]

If you Google apartheid you get more results for Israel than South Africa!

Also the 2 apartheid states were allies of each other.

[yancyslide1]

Israel and Canada are not the same; nor will we ever be .How dare you assume to speak for Canadians other than Zionist , do you speak this way to the Palestinians who have fled and seek refuge here . That they must endure your vile contempt or complete disregard for there humanity , for them your words paint my nation as cold , callous and indifferent as I said we are not Israel .

Your vitriol of disinformation , smacks of special interest , espoused from a closed mind .

[JohnnyRock2000]

It's all about free speech. If people think Israel is apartheid they can say so. Don't let Zionists warp the laws on free speech. He rediculously ties in criticism of Israel as hate speech and wants to ban it. Next he'll be demanding more tax money in support of Israel, in proof of not being anti-semitic. Don't like what Israel is doing? Say so and watch these racists foam at the mouth. Who is filled with hate? People like this. Boycott Israel.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Shurman...just another Zionist trying to stack the deck against criticism of racist Israel.

[oreocohenISR]

Johnny, you are awefuly involved in a Country thousands of miles away and probably never visited in your life. What makes you an expert? All signs point to Jew hater.

[oreocohenISR]

Smart ass Johny, perhaps you'd like to comment on British Army Colonel's remarks (Youtube it) on the Israeli DEFENSE forces action against Muslim scum terrorists in Gaza and elsewhere since you are the spokesperson for Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. What are you? Jew hater or terrorist?

[JohnnyRock2000]

Shurman wants all criticism of a country to equate to hate towards Jews. Are all Jews Zionists? Jews complain that that kind of reasoning is racist.

[oreocohenISR]

For so many people who didn't bother to look up the definition of Zionsim from a JEWISH source (rather an anti Jew source):

Zionism (ציונות, Tsiyonut) is the international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Land of Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el), the historical homeland of the Jews.

[oreocohenISR]

"JewKiller"? You don't get laid much do you.

[oreocohenISR]

What rights do all the Muslim countries combined give their women? Do any other religions have rights in Arab Countries? NO! 22 Arab Countires. 1 Israel. Talk about a Hateful world.

[JohnnyRock2000]

All Zionist reasoning is so much the same, as if reading from the same small book. Current Zionist reasoning tries to create near identical identities with Israel and whoever or whatever countries, as in "An attack on Israel is an attack on Canada"...or the USA. Rediculous reasoning.

[oreocohenISR]

Johnny, perhaps your neighbors to the south could launch rockets at your home for 8 years, a guy like you would probably pull his pants down for some more.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Having rockets launched at one would be a bummer, but the fact is that reports of the 12 deaths caused by them is hardly every reported, nor the fact that GAZA is under embargo and the people there are isolated...in need of everything...food, water, fuel, medicine, jobs, education. Israel sent in helecopters, troops...and destroyed schools, hospitals and killed hundreds of children and innocents. WAY overkill. Part of it's racist plan.

[petersz98]

oreocohenlSR

If israel is a "democracy" why does it not have a Constitution?

Why does it not have any borders?

Why can Arabs not buy or rent a property in West Jerusalem or 93% of the land?

Why does the Israeli Supreme Court refuse to recognize Israeli Nationality only "Jewish" Nationality?

Why is there a different water system and road system for another set of people?

Could it be because Israel is an Apartheid state? LOL!

Israel = APARTHEID STATE!

[petersz98]

oreocohenlSR

None of the 22 Arab countries has bulit a different road system and water system for another ethnic group.

None of the 22 Arab countries has built an Apartheid wall twice as high and 5 times longer than the Berlin wall to imprison a different ethnic group.

There is discrimination but not Apartheid in Arab states.

Face facts Israel is an Apartheid state according to the legal definition in the 1973 UN International Convention on the Crime of Apartheid.

[oreocohenISR]

Peters where are you pulling your info from?

Saudia Arabia has different highways for non-Muslims. The wall is to prevent suicide bombings, on both sides there are Arabs. You've been compromised by anti Semitics hiding behind the word "Apartheid". The U.N is run by a majority of rogue nations and has adopted 90% of resolutions against Israel, not Somalia, Darfur or any other place. If you think Israel is worse than all 22 Arab Countries, you've been exposed as just another jealous non-Jew.

[JohnnyRock2000]

There is a Zionist movement designed to silence any expression critical of Israel. The members of Parliament that signed this resolution, (which is just a personal opinion with no strength in law), were forced to do so, under threat of being labeled anti-semitic. I have no doubt that Shulman is routinely contacted by the JDL to discuss tactics that may make criticism of Israel, Zionism or Jews...hate speech and a criminal act. This is undemocratic and un-Canadian.

[oreocohenISR]

No there are 1.2 billion Muslims who dont put the focus on the more important issues like Muslim terrorism against Canadian soldiers, children. About Irans building a Nuclear bomb, about Hams, about Hezbollah, about beheadings. Take your Palestinians propaganda and get out of Canada you terrorist.

[oreocohenISR]

Israel is the only democracy in the middle east. Unfortunately Muslims out number Israeli representatives because they multiply by the millions each year. And that is how you believe the propaganda. Its on every University campus where Muslims exist.

[petersz98]

Time now to throw the Zionist state into the trash can of colonial history alongside the defunct White Supremicist state of South Africa where it belongs.

Together we can defeat the evil Zionists like we did with SA 20 years ago!

[oreocohenISR]

Hater. Arabs need to check their hate towards their own people and my freedom. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east. Get your stinky Arab propaganda out of Canada.

[petersz98]

oreocohenlSR

Many people use to say South Africa was the only "democracy" in Africa during the White Supremicist years. Get real. Israel is an Apartheid state.

[oreocohenISR]

Have you ever been to Israel? Or are you getting your information from 1.2 billion Muslims who have infiltrated your thought process? Do you know of any Arab Countries that give their citizens as many rights as Israel does to it's Arab population? Millions of misinformed sheep. Get back in the herd.

[oreocohenISR]

And what should we do with all the Muslims blowing themselves up and American soldiers? What should we do with those Muslims who make you believe Holocaust survivors returning to their ancient homeland as refugees are colonialists? Muslims killing Muslims and Christians and Jews, are so out of control they blame Jews.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Apartheid was a rally call for S.A. 20 yrs. ago and motivated the world. The word says it all. That is why there is an Israel Apartheid Week. Israel and many Jews are nervous of this, that the ripple effect will grow and bring down the current Zionist regime. That is why Zionists like Shurman seek to silence free speech. They will try to label any real criticism of Israel as hate speech and make it illegal. Zionists are anti-democratic in this way and have little in common with Canada.

[oreocohenISR]

Nope not nervous.  Eating an Israeli orange in Jerusalem Israel, sucker.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Toronto is where Israeli Apartheid Week was born at the Univ. of Toronto. Toronto has a pop. of 3 million and 150 thou. Jews. We do have a hate speech law in Canada, mostly used as a club against people critical of Jews, racist or not. Shurman waffles against calling I.A.W. as illegal under our hate speech law. Wisely, because he could be charged with libel. Not that our courts would find him guilty. Our present government more and more sound like Bush's neo-cons.

[canada2D]

Oh my God this guy doesn't know he's an evil idiot!

[rinoafun666]

You truly are a disgusting monster. Please throw yourself out with the trash.

[Netanya25]

Whoever wants to deny that criticism of Israel in not Anti-Semitism should read the comments listed in this issue.

They will clearly discover that Anti-Semitism is at the core of the boycotts and the stupid Apartheid campaign

[petersz98]

Netanya25

What's the most anti-semitic country in the world? Israel! Palestinian Arabs are a semitic people and Israelis are anti-semitic towards them so much so they put them in concentration camps bomb them and starve them just because they are not Jewish. How anti-semitic is that!

[rinoafun666]

Lol you truly are laughable. While Arab countries are killing, throwing out, or arresting people for being of another faith, you criticize israel for a laughable concern about Israelis being intollerent of other people from the middle east. What a fucking joke you are.

[petersz98]

The only country throwing out and arresting people of another faith in the middle east is Israel just because they are not Jewish. And it is you who are ignorant about Canada and Israel. Both countries were created by throwing out their native people. Idiot!

[Netanya25]

I don't know where you get your facts but I can promise you that they are all tainted garbage.

Israel arresting people because they are not jewish! What nonsense! Where do you get your statements from?

On the other hand, I am banned from entering Saudi Ara, Kuwait, Dubai, Katar, and many other Muslim countries.

Christians are banned from worshipping there.

Why aren't you protesting Judeo-Christians basic human rights in these countries?

[petersz98]

There are over 10000 people in Israeli gulags some of them children who are kept without due process of law or any evidence they have committed a crime because they are not Jewish. They are political prisoners. Many are also being tortured. I challenge to proove what I have said is not true.

[Netanya25]

What utter nonsense!

I suggest that, as you made this profound statement, you show us the evidence that it is fact - and not a fiction from a deranged mind.

You make the most blasphemous statements and then demand that I prove them not to be true..!!

What sort of twisted logic is that?

FACTS:

Arab,Druze,Muslims are members of the Knesset.

Arabs are Ministers in the Israeli Government. Arabs vote in Israel.

Arab judges sit on the Supreme Court.

Arabs study is all Israels universities. etc

[petersz98]

"Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli prisons or detention camps, including 94 women and 326 children. All of these have been charged with security offenses by Israeli authorities. Israel also detains 47 Palestinian parliamentarians. Of the total, approximately 1,150 are being held without charge."

Palestinian Ministry of Detainees and Ex-Detainees Affairs, Palestinians in Israeli Prisons. August 2008.

Also look at B'Tselem an Israeli human rights organisation. Now supply your proof!

[Netanya25]

Funny how you call terrorists 'political prisoners'.

I suppose, for you, Al Qaida terrorists serving time in America are also political prisoners...

[petersz98]

I find it hilarious how he says a pro Israel group were disallowed from speaking because the University couldn't guarantee their security!

LOL!

15 years ago that would have happened to a pro Palestinian group.

Proof that public opinion is shifting substantially.

My guess is hardly anyone would bother to turn up so I think there is not too much to worry about on that point!

LOL!

Boycott Israel everyone(bar code #729)

Together we can defeat the evil Zionists like we did with SA!

[oreocohenISR]

Blame Hamas idiot.

[petersz98]

There is one token Arab Minister. Arab parties are never allowed to be part of a coalition government. Only Israeli Arabs get the vote a mere tokenism they are tolerated only because of their demographic insignificance being only 20% of the population. This gives a false facade of Israel being a "democracy". Arab parties that refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish Supremicist state can be banned. Some "democracy"! LOL!

[Netanya25]

Totally wrong. One Arab was Minister for Sport. Another has just been visiting Britain.

Thank you for admitting that Israel is NOT an Apartheid state.

You have just accepted that minorities are represented in all apects of political and social life in Israel.

[petersz98]

Funny isn't it Nelson Mandela and Bishop Desmond Tutu say Israel is an Apartheid state who is to argue with them? Time to throw this evil racist entity alongside the Third Reich, Imperial Japan and the White Supremicist Regime into the trash can of imperial history.

Boycott Israel everyone.

Together we can defeat the evil. Nazionists like we did with SA!

[petersz98]

Netanya25

If the Israeli Hitler Avigdor Lieberman gets to power a Racist and a Fascist (that is what most Israelis say about him not me) he proposes 1.5 million non-Jewish Israelis who refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish Supremicist state be stripped of their citizenship. Do you think he is right? The last something like time that happened was in a certian European country in the 1930s! Can you guess which one?

[Netanya25]

Yes, and I am sure that if Hitler were around day you would be wearing brown shirts.

[oreocohenISR]

Peters how much of your time is devoted to Darfur, Somalia, Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan? There are 1000 times more innocent civilians dying in those places? YOU ARE A JEW HATER PERIOD.

[petersz98]

oreocohenlSR

No I am Zionist hater big difference!

[petersz98]

oreocohenlSR

No I am not a Jew hate but I am a Zionist hater, since I am against racism colonialism and apartheid.

[oreocohenISR]

Actually you're stupid because your definition of Zionism comes from propaganda. You simply don't know what it means. Israel was built by immigrants coming from the Holocaust and Arab countries that persecuted them, not colonialists. You should look at a map of the middle east and see just how small Israel is compared to the giant Arab countries surrounding it. Perhaps that would put things in perspective for you. Colonialists, pfff what a total idiot you are.

[JohnnyRock2000]

A rapist in a small town should escape punishment because there are more rapes occuring in cities?

South Africa could have pointed their fingers at other problem areas too.

A tired tactic of misdirection.

[oreocohenISR]

Way to point out the micro problems micro idiot. MUSLIM PROPAGANDA HAS INFECTED YOU.

ARE YOU WITH THEM? OR WITH ISRAEL, THE FRIEND OF DEMOCRACY ? TELL US.

[petersz98]

@oreocohenISR

No I am not a Jew hate . I am a Zionist hater because I am against racism, colonialism, apartheid and ethnic cleansing!

[p058720235]

Israeli gulags?

Bargutti, just finished his PHD in prison!

Samir Kuntar, had his B.A in prison!

And Gilad Shalit...didn't see day light or a UN representative since captured!

[rinoafun666]

lol you are just too funny. You really are. Over 1 million Jews were kicked out from arab countries, never allowed to take their roperty, never allowed to return. You obviously know abolutely nothing about this and it's quite sad when information can be found so easily that you wouldn't eve bother to learn.

[oreocohenISR]

That's right, the Muslims are beheading and blowing themselves up in dictatorships. Israel and its judicial system is not a place for you to visit. You belong under an axe with someone yelling allah akbar

[rinoafun666]

@petersz98 it's really sad that you are so ignorant about reality. Arab countries have been kicking out and killing people of non muslim religions for centuries and yet you either choose to lie or be completely ignorant about it. So sad.

[petersz98]

@rinoafun666 Really. Why then are there many over 1000 year old churches in Arab countries? Did the Holocaust take place in an Arab country? Did the Spanish Inquisition take place in an Arab country? Who gave refuge for Jews when they were kicked out of Spain? Who allowed Jews to settle back in Jerusalem after the Crusades?

[rinoafun666]

@petersz98 You are such a simpleton it's unbelievable. You completely ignore all the mosques that have been plopped right on top of churches. Places where there use to be high christian and jewish populations and now have numbers that are dwindling because of so many being killed or kicked out of those countries. Why don't you get an education before you open your ignorant mouth? This conversation isn't about europe. You made an ignorant claim and I disputed it. Suck it.

[rinoafun666]

@petersz98 You are such a simpleton it's unbelievable. You completely ignore all the mosques that have been plopped right on top of churches and synagouges. Places where there use to be high christian and jewish populations and now have numbers that are dwindling because of so many being killed or kicked out of those countries. Why don't you get an education before you open your ignorant mouth? This conversation isn't about europe. You made an ignorant claim and I disputed it. Suck it.

[oreocohenISR]

Wrong, over 800,000 Jews were kicked out of 22 Arab Countries when the United Nations voted to resurrect ancient Israel. Some anti semetic Jew haters and Muslims are doing you in the a** right now and you like it. Stand up for the other side Peters

[petersz98]

Netanya25

The inhabitants of Gaza are being restricted to about 200 calories a day just like the inmates of the Warsaw Ghetto. Is there any lower you Zionists will stoop? Gas chambers perhaps?

[petersz98]

Both Canada and Israel are based on the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the native population. Like this fool says Canada and Israel indeed have much in common!

[rinoafun666]

Well thank you for proving how ignorant your are about both canada and israel

[oreocohenISR]

Why don't you go live in Gaza Peters?

[Netanya25]

Funny! I thought it was you Anti-Semites that were getting involved in Israel's problems and not the other way round!!

[luv5e1]

Thank you MPP Shurman making clear the meaning of "apartheid". We support Canada and Israel, the 2 countries that have high values and principals! We love you.

[petersz98]

"Israel like South Africa is an apartheid state"

Hendrick Verwoerd Architect of Apartheid South Africa 1961. You have a different road system, an Apartheid wall, different tiers of citizenship, miltary occupation etc. The guy's a moron Apartheid is not confined to South Africa it is a legal term defined by the International Criminal Court as a crime against humanity. Time to throw the Apartheid Zionist Entity into the trash can of colonial history alongside the defunct racist White State!

[Netanya25]

Israel doesnt have a different road system.

Israel doesnt have different tiers of citizenship. Israeli citizens, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or Druze serve in our Knesset. Arabs head medical departments and university faculties in Israel.

So much for Apartheid in Israel.

Why aren't you protesting about genuine Apartheid in Arab countries against Jews and Christians?.

As for security fence. .

Suicide bombings went down in Israel by 98% when the fence up..

[petersz98]

Israel does have a different road system for settlers only. 93 % of the land is for Jews only. The wall does not stop suicide bombings people can easily get round it if they want. Israel only recognizes Jewish Nationality(the Israeli Supreme Court refuses to recognize Israeli Nationality). It's the only country in the world which is not the state of its citizens. You have been found out. You are a racist state and its now time to throw Israel into the trash can of colonial history!

[pashersil]

I grew up with the real Apartheid and it has nothing to do with what is happening in Israel. Its convenient to blame Israel for the misfortune of the people who term themselves "Palestinians" and who have been led astray by their own hate-filled leadership. Arms for the poor indeed!

[tareekhnawees]

this man cares about his pig on the table he does not care about Palestenians being killed.

Hesays Israel values are Canadian Values so next time some one comes and blow somehting in your country do not say we had nothing to do with israel.

However, i urge all those who are involved in violance not to do such a thing.

[DontfearNoMan]

SHURMAN U BITCH SUCK MY DICK ! We are CANADA not ISRAELS puppet and we dont give a fuck more abuot Isreal than we do about Palestine so shut the fuk up and stop actin like i give a fuk about u and ur jews. DIS IS OUR ONTARIO> not urs motha fucka !

[santo2444]

To foulmouthed DontfearNoMan: First of all - I hope you're not typical of Canadian Settlers. Second, seeing that your family probably came from Jew-hating/Jew-slaughtering (for at least 1500 years) Europe (UK?) how about giving Canada back to NativeCanadians & going back

to where you came from. As for Canadian Jews, maybe they should indeed return, like 1 million Jews driven out from Arab occupied lands to their ancestral home-land Israel/Judea. They're obviously not welcome anywhere else

[DontfearNoMan]

they r welcome.. but the zionists can go to hell.. and wat the fuck are u talkin about lol so u want the natives to come and kick out everyone in canada ? stop doin coke homeboy..

[JohnnyRock2000]

Someday, and perhaps soon, Zionism will be labeled racist as it was over 20 years ago by the U,N,

This man represents Israeli views, in Canada, His desire seems to be to label criticism of Israel in this way, hate speech. He wants speech that is critical of Israel made illegal, unless it passes and some kind of Jewish censorship board. Arabs in Israel are less than second class citizens in Israel and that is the point that cannot be silenced by Zionists.

[habby06]

well done peter!

[JohnnyRock2000]

Canadian politicians are weakening under the growing strength of Zionist lobby groups. It's easier for them to support this B.S. motion, than to be labled anti-semitic by strengthening Canadian Zionist groups and Zionist newspapers like the National Post. This is just how Israel got control of the U.S. Congress. Wars result from foreign interest control like this.

[JohnnyRock2000]

Time to remove Canadian hate speech laws. We are hearing the true intent of those laws,...to criminalize critical comment on Israel. All over the world, including the U.N., Israel is known as a racist state. I smell fear from this guy. Fear that the term apartheid will eventually do to Israel what it did to S.A. Fear that the movement will grow.

[santo2444]

JohnnyRock2000,peterz98 & other Jew/

Israel-hating hypocrites here: Israel's1.4 M Arab citizens(most Moslem but also

Christian & Druze)have full democratic

ights not found anywhere in Judenrein(& soon Christianrein) 22 Arab-Moslem states(although they are all at war with Israel)& another 30+ non-Arab Moslem states like Pakistan,Iran,Afghanistan,

Sudan etc.where Apartheid discrimination

persecution & murder of Christian & other minorities flourish. How about demos against them?

[petersz98]

santo2444

These so called Arab citizens are disqualified from 93% of the land which is for Jews only like in South Africa where 87% of the land was for Whites only. They are called a "demographic problem" by Israeli politicians. They have "citizenship" but not Israseli Nationality since Israel refuses to recognize Israeli Nationality only Jewish Nationality. Arab areas are deprived of equal funding for services even though they pay the same taxes. Even in 48 lands Israel is an Apartheid state.

[oreocohenISR]

hahaha have you ever been to Israel you dumb ass?

[danmanjones]

Keep it up Sherman. You're shooting yourself in the foot. Make a fuss. Speak louder. Nice body language mate.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

This guy is an idiot. How can they dictate what students do on their campuses?

[druidboy11]

he should read the convention on apartheid...

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@druidboy11 And the funny thing is, Canada IS apartheid too! Just look at an Indian (First Nations) reservation and you'll understand.

Most of my family lives in Canada and they know firsthand of the racist policies against First Nations, BTW.

[pashersil]

Do you know what apartheid is or was? Not what you would like it to be. A lot of noble people suffered under Apartheid - dont cheapen their struggle with a cheap comparison.

First Nations have been treated badly - but in a completely different way.

[Canada1953]

What planet does this guy live on?

[malkalevadom]

@Canada1953

Planet Earth, dear. How about you? :)

[alpha0710]

Individual freedom of the Israeli citizens only!

South Africa was a democratic state as well

[trentgerman]

Wow. Was it really unanimous?

[mkadams99]

@trentgerman

The Jews have bought Canadian politicians just like they have done in the US.