This guy obviously has financial interests, the way he promotes the product and company like some knock-on-door salesman. He admits that the study shows no survival benefit vs standard therapy (only quality of life benefit), yet proceeds by showing two miracle 5-year survival cases that can be found in almost any large-scale trial. He shamelessly claims this to be the only alternative to radiation/chemotherapy, despite there being other FDA-approved alternatives such as targeted drugs, RFA, etc.
@unapologeticmind And, yeah, he definitely needs to refresh his high-school physics knowledge. There are lots of good introductory physics videos here on Youtube that would serve him well to check out...
I think this applies only in certain situations....where the cancer is not prerecorded in the DNA, but achieved from an outside influence. How do you reprogram the DNA intent? Talk about gravity......
Energy therapies have been around for close to 100 years to treat tumors (Albert Abrams, Royal Rife, all TCM physicians) plus diet therapies (Gershon). Why is this guy getting so much attention? This is nothing new! Have the CDC and NIH done an about-face? No. They can market this electronic headset and make money.
There are way more cures than just those three... look into changing your bodies PH Acidity vs Alkaline.
What about remembering how to instruct the body to heal itself. Vibrational energy.
Others have mentioned cannibus (sp?) and hope
There are others, one thing is for sure, I would not choose any of those three as my first, second or third choices, no matter what big pharma and the AMA would like to force me to do.
OH! I see. We must undergo the hideous, barbaric radiation and chemo FIRST (aka, feed Big Pharma) and THEN, only as a last resort we get to have the real treatment... Interesting.
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Slight lie about the astronauts and gravity. They are still effected by gravity (quite strongly or they would just shoot off into space!) however they are falling "around" the earth at the same rate gravity is accelerating them down. But, we can let it slide all physics teachers lie.
@Shredderof7Seas Hey this is Turkey, we all enjoy our kebab once in a while. Too bad your meat is made of pink goo rendered from intestines and bone marrow.
I love how this ignoramous doesn't even MENTION the 1st Treatment that is a CURE for cancer; The Gerson Therapy... How can you be so intelligent but be so stupid and uninformed?
@Shredderof7Seas I have only stated the facts. "No statistically significant correlation" <- go figure what that means and why it is important to scientists and mathematicians.
@Shredderof7Seas well I'm telling you, the "study" you present has no parts that are published to a scientific journal and presents no statistically significant data. If you want to learn, start with reading what standard deviation is.
@mybass101 The ship is falling around the curvature of the earth obviously it reached the speed it reached from it's engines, but that doesn't change that there is over 90% of gravity at low earth orbit where the shuttle goes. If you slowed the shuttle down, it would fall fight back to earth.
this is the first and only time you will be hearing of this. let the suppression of this technology begin. just like all kinds of other technologies. the 1% want it for themselves and no one else.
@CorrelatedCausation it affects all dividing cells. Because cancer cells divide, at times exponentially, faster than their "normal" counterparts it impacts cancerous cells more than non-cancer cells.
The cure for cancer will never come until the cost the keep the patient alive is GREATER than the cost to let them die. A cure already exists, it's called marijuana. The plant has been studied by psychologists with results that point towards the fact that with more research and the legalization of said research, a true cure could be made. Too bad societal influences matter more to some people than what is truly the best option.
@sdceoltatney Cannabis is not a "cure"; it's a viable treatment. Many people who have had cancer and smoked weed/consumed cannabis products have still succumbed to the disease. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE weed and fucks wit' it supa heavy (I went to the Detroit Cannabis Cup last year for my birthday and had a GREAT time, though, sadly, not too many of the lovely ladies were present) and recommend green for EVERYONE, but let's not kid ourselves here.
@nmryda Research shows that cannabis can actually reduce the size of tumors; I am aware of its current use which is mostly just so people with cancer can enjoy their lives before they die. I'm saying that with more research of how to directly target tumors with cannabis products, a cure could be made. Smoking it by itself is not the cure, although regions in your body that come into contact with THC have a lower chance of forming tumors. If you smoke pot, lung cancer is less likely.
@sdceoltatney True true true, I can agree with all of that. I'm just saying that cannabis alone isn't a cure all but it's definitely got some medicinal purposes. More testing definitely NEEDS to be done and I would volunteer myself to be a willful participant haha.
@bikos236590 New? fifty year old technology. This technology is now available without the wires through the conversion of fields from the enviroment. Microcircuits are used that absorb and convert fields. A little too advanced for these talks, directly taught by and advanced from Reich's. Too often science does not admit errors, truth is rediscovered and credit is given elsewere. Search: Birkeland, J. W. Keely, Timothy Thrapp.
It is true, in fact, Rose from LOST got rid of her cancer as soon as she arrived on the island, which was filled with electromagnetic energy (true story)
@djnoobcake Notice one phrase you will never hear from a troll is "I'm sorry". Go through about 8 years bumpy road between inviting new molecule and being able to sell in on market as a cure and then come back.
@djnoobcake No idea how do you english, but I hope you will get better at it every year. Maybe you'll be able to talk like a decent human being soon, which I sincerly wish you. ;)
The problem with this kind opinion is that you don't understand science. Science gives you proof (it works) without certainty, hence "treatment" not "cure". It is a bit similar to phrase used in ads eg. cleaning liquid which "kills 99.9% bacteria". However, if you want certainty (without proof) I would suggest religion.
@str3123 it does not. But in regions of the body such as the brain or the lung where you have little cell proliferation, i'd rather have no proliferation at all, than a growing tumor. I don't know how the proposed treatment works, but one thing you always should keep in mind: there are as many different kinds of cancers as there are patients.
Still skeptical, but hey, one should remain skeptical pretty much always. However, I have to agree with the comments that this was presented wrongly, as if it was for corporates/public. I thought TED should be more about the idea: and he wasted time on E-fields/Mitosis, which is uncalled for. Neither E-fields/Mitosis theories are new.
This all seems great and if they manage to make this method work then thats wonderful, but it worries me that there are no publications on this. Actually, the American Cancer Society stated that there is no evidence that this method is reliable. I don't really see how electrical fields could "fix" misfolded or mutated proteins either, especially when the problem lies in the DNA.
"space station"? "field of energies"? why the fuck is a medicine talk using crackpot new age terminology? sounds like bullshit, and makes for a shitty talk even independently of that. -1
(and 'combining with chemo'? yeah, cuz chemo works fucktard)
This method was approved by FDA, and people are still alive 5 years when they wouldn't survive even a year. Two reasons why TTF is not spread: first, they need more time to conduct studies, and second, financial - it costs, probably, a lot if it really cures. Besides, it is more profitable to treat people not to cure in the monetary system.
There is another treatment out a while now by Dr. Burzynski who had long legal battle with FDA and won to use Antineoplastons treatment.
If he didn't spend the entire speech avoiding the word "Magnets" i would have been more open to this.
Selling a placebo to cancer patients is one of the easiest things to do. And I bet for one of these "healing field generators" cost a hell of allot more then they should considering your just wrapping the patient with electro magnets.
Assuming that every cell divides. How does this treatment not affect healthy tissue that is dividing? Note that he said it does not damage healthy non-dividing tissue.
Interesting theory, seems kinda unlikely though because we are exposed to such fields daily. I wonder about the specifics.
There is plenty of gravity where the space shuttle goes, probably over 90% of the gravity at the ground. It just looks like their is no gravity because they are in free fall around he curvature of the earth. If you built a building that went to low earth orbit height, you wouldn't even notice the change in gravity on the 10,000th floor.
@christo930 I didn't think you chould be right, so I ran the math. At the upper bounds of Low Earth Orbit (2000km), one would experience a 6.3% decrease in gravitational effects. So, as counter-intuitive as I found it, your comment was confirmed by my calculations.
@christo930 I was going to post that. There is a great deal of gravity from Earth out to the Moon and well beyond. That's why the moon doesn't just fly off into space. The gravity from the Sun reaches out further than Pluto.
Seems like something worth looking into BUT this is not yet TED ready. I don't see it working the way he does. Prob. never will be a cure to cancer but maybe you can use this strategy to delay tumor growth. Allowing time to make hard decisions for people with a late diagnosis or something.
Either this talk is dumbed down to a level of why-say-anything-in-the-first-place or it is pseudo science (it IS presented in a way/language pseudo science presentations usually are). Either one or the other this is not a TED worthy talk /speech. If this is not pseudo science, still I've got almost none concrete information about the method.
Just going into third year physics classes and we *just* finished the concept of electric fields. I can tell you, before clicking on this video link, I became EXTREMELY skeptical.
uhm well i guess i have to agree @freesk8 here, i don't really get why cell division of normal cells isn't affected, they still reproduce, don't they? can't this lead to necrotic normal tissues or at least reduced wound regeneration or something like that?
@Nyphur wouldn't people who didn't respond to treatment and are left to die be a controlgroup?
Wow, low level electrical fields disrupt cell division? This kills cancer cells because they are rapidly dividing. But we live in low level electric fields all day. We sit near computers. Our houses have electrical wires. etc. Could this be damaging our healthy cells when they divide? I don't know!!!
Wait a minute, watch from 08:22 again. He took patients who had not responded to conventional treatment, gave half the chemo again and half the new field treatment. ... There's no control group.
Patients were selected that didn't respond to chemo. That means the first group given chemo again may not be expected to respond. As the field treatment got the same result as that group, that might mean it doesn't work. The lack of side-effects doesn't mean anything if the treatment doesn't work. : /
@Nyphur good observation and critical thinking here. but the point here is, it seems to be promising in terms of results given. now it is only reasonable to test this thoroughly.
There is no publication of the cited phase III trials on medline. Even the homepage of the company only cites one feasibility study, one publication explaining the concept and a couple of scientific abstracts.
I am sorry, but I am quite shure that this therapy does not work at all.
@alfkeh Until we see it in the real world, being used by people who both survive their cancer and live happy lives during and after.
Skepticism is good, but this guy's presenting to TED. I cannot assume it works and it's real, but he's risking a HUGE public shit storm if it actually doesn't work. Let the work survive or fall on its own merit.
@BR3WKR3W8 Spontaneous remissions happen occasionally, and if you run enough bullshit studies you'll get one or two to use as case studies. People are right to be skeptical when he uses two specific cases as evidence in the talk instead of showing the raw results of the entire trial.
@alfkeh I have found the full paper that they guy talks about. Go to google scholar and search for " Tumor Treating Fields" . The first hit should get you want you want. On the Proceedings of the national academy of science website you can even access the full paper :)
Have you considered that this might still be in such early phases of research that publications have not been released yet? Science takes time...it's an arduous process but it works. Give them a little more time.
I don't claim to know anything, but I've done a lot of research on health an nutrition. I'm pretty positive that after all I've seen and read, a plant and fruit based diet is the way to go.
@lemondrop2012 Cancer cells love good food as much as good cells. The good food theory is likely only valid to help people without cancer stay that way.
@rocknrobyn888 Yes, good foods may be preventative. But prevention is not a cure. Eating the right foods so your blood stream has the right PH is also believed to lower the risk. Personally, I'd rather they find the cure than hope what I eat lowers my risk, just in case lowering my risk from 20% to 5% did not quite do the trick because I'm not very lucky so 5% over a lifetime is still an unacceptable risk IMO.
I love how in medicine, they make a distinction between a magnetic field and an magnetically charged electric field simply because one uses physical magnets and the other uses electric fields.
@sexyloser Not at all, only in light are they intertwined. You can have one without having the other and they have distinct properties. Magnetic fields have no monopoles, act on charges in a cross product fashion and as a function of the speed of the charge.
Wouldn't this also cause cell death for healthy dividing cells? Or do healthy cells simply divide infrequently enough that those cell deaths cause negligible side effects in the patient?
For cells that don't replicate, they'll never be affected. For cells that do replicate, they will replicate enough for any damage to be repaired with no issue.
@papasitoman lols.I'm afraid he's the general public , tabloid newspapers and a diet of banal TV it's sending the whole world stupid ,lols , I'm not educated myself but I have a basic Idea how shit works IE basic science ,these people have no clue and I've noticed a lot of them on TED recently .we must man the trenches against the onslaught of stupid :)
@IoDecay Oh why not watch " Fork over Knives " for starters. I found it to be very informative with lots of studies to back up a plant based diet. Check it out for your self.
What the feck! Treat cancer thats caused by radiation? chemicals? stress? bad diet? with electrics which cause radiation? That's my first though. Radiation does not work. I recommend if you have cancer. Go vegan... for a month eating mostly vitamin a foods, and green juices. Then going on a water fast for a month and that will help you remove a lot of the toxic crap in your body out of your body. This works. And is well known to work. Then you go back on green juice... then on to a vegan diet
This is amazing, but he said it has no effect on non-dividing cells in the body. That's all very well and good, but there are lots of cells in my body that are supposed to divide. What about them?
I'm guessing that the effect on healthy cells is far less pronounced because they divide far less often. The defining attribute of cancer is of course it's extremely rapid cell division rate.
To all those criticizing this talk...If he presented this as a highly technical one, 99.99 % of the viewers would not have any idea what he was talking about. Accept that he has "dumbed" this down for...well, probably you.
stopped watching it after 2 minutes. this guy is an idiot, there is no such thing as an electric field. only electromagnetic fields which is what he is supposed to say but obviously if he doesnt know something basic like that then he doesnt know what he is talking about, he isnt even the person that created anything the guy in israel did. and even then its nothing new its been used for other things like kidney stones and the tech has gotten better and more precise to target cancerous regions
@theANSWERisXLII the same way but your normal cells in the infected area don't need to divide and don't as fast as the cancer cells.So it would be tough to say weight lift and use this therapy. He does say it doesnt effect normal cells. but the normal cells arent dividing as fast and as often.
@philosophyman76 ok but after a year of that treatment the same effect has to be seen on normal cells... that's probably why they chose brain cancer - loss of bunch more cells in an area of brain that's been butchered probably isn't so noticeable, same with lungs - small decline in capacity is nothing ...collateral damage i guess
@Shredderof7Seas Just because there are good alternatives to meat does not necessarily mean that vegetables can replace every nutrient found in meat. Humans are naturally omnivores; we have canines, don't we?
wikipedia. org/wiki/Meat#Health -- Eating processed meat and meat you find in most stores is bad for you, but if you limit to fish and the occasional organic chicken, you'll increase your lifespan. Interestingly, vegans had the same mortality as regular meat eaters. Balance > extremes.
@Shredderof7Seas ...and yet it could be argued that the high rates of cancer, obesity and disease are a result of high life expectancies, which is another thing that seems to coincide with high meat and dairy intake. Your problem is a classic logical fallacy; correlation does not equate causation. Also, try googling "The Naive Vegetarian". Check out the first result.
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I heard a lot of people killed their cancer using Phytoplankton, look it up on youtube
rocksiphone 1 week ago
This guy obviously has financial interests, the way he promotes the product and company like some knock-on-door salesman. He admits that the study shows no survival benefit vs standard therapy (only quality of life benefit), yet proceeds by showing two miracle 5-year survival cases that can be found in almost any large-scale trial. He shamelessly claims this to be the only alternative to radiation/chemotherapy, despite there being other FDA-approved alternatives such as targeted drugs, RFA, etc.
unapologeticmind 1 week ago
@unapologeticmind And, yeah, he definitely needs to refresh his high-school physics knowledge. There are lots of good introductory physics videos here on Youtube that would serve him well to check out...
unapologeticmind 1 week ago
Marijuana cures cancer.
jason420jason 2 weeks ago
I think this applies only in certain situations....where the cancer is not prerecorded in the DNA, but achieved from an outside influence. How do you reprogram the DNA intent? Talk about gravity......
Norskoggirl 3 weeks ago
Energy therapies have been around for close to 100 years to treat tumors (Albert Abrams, Royal Rife, all TCM physicians) plus diet therapies (Gershon). Why is this guy getting so much attention? This is nothing new! Have the CDC and NIH done an about-face? No. They can market this electronic headset and make money.
autismtreatedcured 3 weeks ago
There are way more cures than just those three... look into changing your bodies PH Acidity vs Alkaline.
What about remembering how to instruct the body to heal itself. Vibrational energy.
Others have mentioned cannibus (sp?) and hope
There are others, one thing is for sure, I would not choose any of those three as my first, second or third choices, no matter what big pharma and the AMA would like to force me to do.
cbemerine 3 weeks ago
@cbemerine Yeah, but this actually works so...
DeoMachina 2 weeks ago
There a great article titled 'Does DNA emit light'. Some of the description & science describes this affect.
InbredRengade 3 weeks ago
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awhitesoul2012 3 weeks ago
horrible memories of bio 100 and 200
billyboy8888 3 weeks ago
or you could get a zapper
Tekula23 3 weeks ago
Fuck that! just give us the real cures damn it.
RainK9 3 weeks ago
@RainK9
Atleast it's a start......
kalimul 3 weeks ago
OH! I see. We must undergo the hideous, barbaric radiation and chemo FIRST (aka, feed Big Pharma) and THEN, only as a last resort we get to have the real treatment... Interesting.
SkinklyDee 3 weeks ago
Dr. Royal Rife - very similar procedure indeed. Please google it.
For more amazing cancer work, Check out the Burzynski Clinic in Houston
Also, YouTube's own "Run from the Cure".
FDA? don't trust it, unfortunately;-(
SkinklyDee 3 weeks ago
Dr. Royal Rife ... brilliant San Diego inventor whose work was destroyed before computers in a "mysterious" fire.
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The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 weeks ago
Slight lie about the astronauts and gravity. They are still effected by gravity (quite strongly or they would just shoot off into space!) however they are falling "around" the earth at the same rate gravity is accelerating them down. But, we can let it slide all physics teachers lie.
harvellt 3 weeks ago
This sounds very similar to Dr Royal Rife work back at the turn of century - look up Dr.Royal Rife
OU812ay 3 weeks ago
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Shredderof7Seas 3 weeks ago
@Shredderof7Seas Hey this is Turkey, we all enjoy our kebab once in a while. Too bad your meat is made of pink goo rendered from intestines and bone marrow.
teenspirit1 3 weeks ago
He forgot the fifth one, hope and prayer.
trevgoodchild 3 weeks ago
SCIO
Blooper1980 3 weeks ago
I love how this ignoramous doesn't even MENTION the 1st Treatment that is a CURE for cancer; The Gerson Therapy... How can you be so intelligent but be so stupid and uninformed?
metajonn 3 weeks ago
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Shredderof7Seas 3 weeks ago
@Shredderof7Seas I have only stated the facts. "No statistically significant correlation" <- go figure what that means and why it is important to scientists and mathematicians.
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Shredderof7Seas 3 weeks ago
@Shredderof7Seas well I'm telling you, the "study" you present has no parts that are published to a scientific journal and presents no statistically significant data. If you want to learn, start with reading what standard deviation is.
teenspirit1 3 weeks ago
@christo930 dude that is not gravity that is inertia
mybass101 3 weeks ago
@mybass101 The ship is falling around the curvature of the earth obviously it reached the speed it reached from it's engines, but that doesn't change that there is over 90% of gravity at low earth orbit where the shuttle goes. If you slowed the shuttle down, it would fall fight back to earth.
christo930 3 weeks ago
That is clever. Even more so if it works. 0o
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Current trial and links to relevant publications:
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00916409
TehPhysicalist 3 weeks ago
this is the first and only time you will be hearing of this. let the suppression of this technology begin. just like all kinds of other technologies. the 1% want it for themselves and no one else.
occupynow 3 weeks ago
Disappointing video... If he was talking to professionals, why he simplified science to the level of semi-retarded primary school children?
KristoffDoe 3 weeks ago
@CorrelatedCausation it affects all dividing cells. Because cancer cells divide, at times exponentially, faster than their "normal" counterparts it impacts cancerous cells more than non-cancer cells.
AxmanKS 3 weeks ago
The answer is within.
eatchiles 3 weeks ago
The cure for cancer will never come until the cost the keep the patient alive is GREATER than the cost to let them die. A cure already exists, it's called marijuana. The plant has been studied by psychologists with results that point towards the fact that with more research and the legalization of said research, a true cure could be made. Too bad societal influences matter more to some people than what is truly the best option.
sdceoltatney 3 weeks ago
@sdceoltatney Cannabis is not a "cure"; it's a viable treatment. Many people who have had cancer and smoked weed/consumed cannabis products have still succumbed to the disease. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE weed and fucks wit' it supa heavy (I went to the Detroit Cannabis Cup last year for my birthday and had a GREAT time, though, sadly, not too many of the lovely ladies were present) and recommend green for EVERYONE, but let's not kid ourselves here.
nmryda 3 weeks ago
@nmryda Research shows that cannabis can actually reduce the size of tumors; I am aware of its current use which is mostly just so people with cancer can enjoy their lives before they die. I'm saying that with more research of how to directly target tumors with cannabis products, a cure could be made. Smoking it by itself is not the cure, although regions in your body that come into contact with THC have a lower chance of forming tumors. If you smoke pot, lung cancer is less likely.
sdceoltatney 3 weeks ago
@sdceoltatney True true true, I can agree with all of that. I'm just saying that cannabis alone isn't a cure all but it's definitely got some medicinal purposes. More testing definitely NEEDS to be done and I would volunteer myself to be a willful participant haha.
nmryda 3 weeks ago
@nmryda haha me too ;)
sdceoltatney 3 weeks ago
Funny how the FDA destroyed William Reich and let this guy go forward ^^
bikos236590 3 weeks ago 8
@bikos236590 New? fifty year old technology. This technology is now available without the wires through the conversion of fields from the enviroment. Microcircuits are used that absorb and convert fields. A little too advanced for these talks, directly taught by and advanced from Reich's. Too often science does not admit errors, truth is rediscovered and credit is given elsewere. Search: Birkeland, J. W. Keely, Timothy Thrapp.
sallybaker1950 3 weeks ago
Magnificent!!!
ABHWLM 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Epic
mattysimsoficial 3 weeks ago
It is true, in fact, Rose from LOST got rid of her cancer as soon as she arrived on the island, which was filled with electromagnetic energy (true story)
arislost 3 weeks ago
I wonder why this talk from last fall is only coming up now...
notavideographer 3 weeks ago
Notice one word you will never hear during a cancer talk "Cure". Its too profitable to "Treat", if everyone was cured, than no profits.
djnoobcake 3 weeks ago
@djnoobcake Notice one phrase you will never hear from a troll is "I'm sorry". Go through about 8 years bumpy road between inviting new molecule and being able to sell in on market as a cure and then come back.
And have a nice day ;)
andrzejkowasz 3 weeks ago
@andrzejkowasz Understood like every other word u said. Care to elaborate?
djnoobcake 3 weeks ago
@djnoobcake like no.
andrzejkowasz 3 weeks ago
@andrzejkowasz language barrier got your tongue? How do i english?
djnoobcake 3 weeks ago
@djnoobcake No idea how do you english, but I hope you will get better at it every year. Maybe you'll be able to talk like a decent human being soon, which I sincerly wish you. ;)
andrzejkowasz 3 weeks ago
@djnoobcake
The problem with this kind opinion is that you don't understand science. Science gives you proof (it works) without certainty, hence "treatment" not "cure". It is a bit similar to phrase used in ads eg. cleaning liquid which "kills 99.9% bacteria". However, if you want certainty (without proof) I would suggest religion.
KristoffDoe 3 weeks ago
How is it that this method doesnt prevents normal cells (like blood and similar) to multiplicate?
str3123 3 weeks ago
@str3123 it does not. But in regions of the body such as the brain or the lung where you have little cell proliferation, i'd rather have no proliferation at all, than a growing tumor. I don't know how the proposed treatment works, but one thing you always should keep in mind: there are as many different kinds of cancers as there are patients.
urnotalone 3 weeks ago
Interesting stuff, but I'm not impressed by the presentation.
holyhell5050 3 weeks ago
Still skeptical, but hey, one should remain skeptical pretty much always. However, I have to agree with the comments that this was presented wrongly, as if it was for corporates/public. I thought TED should be more about the idea: and he wasted time on E-fields/Mitosis, which is uncalled for. Neither E-fields/Mitosis theories are new.
NomadandtheSun 3 weeks ago
Super informative
HealthyOrangutan 4 weeks ago
This is just fighting fire with fire.
EyeAmNow 4 weeks ago
this sounds like junk science to me
quaxk 4 weeks ago
after watching this , i conclude that this is psuedo science BS
thumbs down ....
VoiceOfAleppo 4 weeks ago
if this is so groundbreaking as the talker is presenting it , then why isn't this all over the news ??
VoiceOfAleppo 4 weeks ago
first he explains what electric fields are (which doesn't need explaining) then he explains how cell division works then he drops the bomb !
"this doesn't effect normal undividing cells"
excuse me doc , how exactly is that supposed to be ??
and since when are normal cells "undividing" ?????????????????
body cells divide ALL the time (except brain cells) what the fuck ??
VoiceOfAleppo 4 weeks ago
This all seems great and if they manage to make this method work then thats wonderful, but it worries me that there are no publications on this. Actually, the American Cancer Society stated that there is no evidence that this method is reliable. I don't really see how electrical fields could "fix" misfolded or mutated proteins either, especially when the problem lies in the DNA.
dudepal187 4 weeks ago
"space station"? "field of energies"? why the fuck is a medicine talk using crackpot new age terminology? sounds like bullshit, and makes for a shitty talk even independently of that. -1
(and 'combining with chemo'? yeah, cuz chemo works fucktard)
dattebenforcer 4 weeks ago
Bob beck blood electrification, been using it for years... go to sota instruments on google to get some of the original products
TyneOdu 4 weeks ago
Great, a doctor claiming to use physics, and with little to no official evidence. Where's the pic of government approval and study results?
If they seriously can get results within 10 years, as he says, then great. But until then, I'm very skeptical about the true value of his claims.
GeekProdigyGuy 4 weeks ago
@GeekProdigyGuy
This method was approved by FDA, and people are still alive 5 years when they wouldn't survive even a year. Two reasons why TTF is not spread: first, they need more time to conduct studies, and second, financial - it costs, probably, a lot if it really cures. Besides, it is more profitable to treat people not to cure in the monetary system.
There is another treatment out a while now by Dr. Burzynski who had long legal battle with FDA and won to use Antineoplastons treatment.
natushkatzm 4 weeks ago 4
If he didn't spend the entire speech avoiding the word "Magnets" i would have been more open to this.
Selling a placebo to cancer patients is one of the easiest things to do. And I bet for one of these "healing field generators" cost a hell of allot more then they should considering your just wrapping the patient with electro magnets.
Creaform003 4 weeks ago
we already have a (near) cure all, juicing raw cannabis!! Watch youtube video named "Leaf"
EvolvingTruthSeeker 4 weeks ago 3
@EvolvingTruthSeeker If that Leaf video is true, all the more reason for me to hate the drugged empire...
Zetaporia 4 weeks ago 4
Check out - Bob Becks - Blood Electrification! very interesting expose regarding suppressed medical therapies.
rudracakrin 4 weeks ago
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Assuming that every cell divides. How does this treatment not affect healthy tissue that is dividing? Note that he said it does not damage healthy non-dividing tissue.
Interesting theory, seems kinda unlikely though because we are exposed to such fields daily. I wonder about the specifics.
BladeBloodreaver 4 weeks ago
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BladeBloodreaver 4 weeks ago
Very good not a cure but it will save lives
Xdear1 4 weeks ago
There is plenty of gravity where the space shuttle goes, probably over 90% of the gravity at the ground. It just looks like their is no gravity because they are in free fall around he curvature of the earth. If you built a building that went to low earth orbit height, you wouldn't even notice the change in gravity on the 10,000th floor.
christo930 4 weeks ago 7
@christo930 Which is why medical doctors should learn some physics before they embarrass themselves with fail analogies.
stardust005 4 weeks ago
@stardust005 YEP.
christo930 3 weeks ago
@christo930 I didn't think you chould be right, so I ran the math. At the upper bounds of Low Earth Orbit (2000km), one would experience a 6.3% decrease in gravitational effects. So, as counter-intuitive as I found it, your comment was confirmed by my calculations.
renegade4dio 3 weeks ago
@renegade4dio Thanks.
christo930 3 weeks ago
@christo930 I was going to post that. There is a great deal of gravity from Earth out to the Moon and well beyond. That's why the moon doesn't just fly off into space. The gravity from the Sun reaches out further than Pluto.
shraka 3 weeks ago
@christo930 analogies don't have to be exactly right, just convey the message :
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oicub2 4 weeks ago
Seems like something worth looking into BUT this is not yet TED ready. I don't see it working the way he does. Prob. never will be a cure to cancer but maybe you can use this strategy to delay tumor growth. Allowing time to make hard decisions for people with a late diagnosis or something.
sirfearlessone 4 weeks ago
Either this talk is dumbed down to a level of why-say-anything-in-the-first-place or it is pseudo science (it IS presented in a way/language pseudo science presentations usually are). Either one or the other this is not a TED worthy talk /speech. If this is not pseudo science, still I've got almost none concrete information about the method.
supawooky 4 weeks ago 2
Just going into third year physics classes and we *just* finished the concept of electric fields. I can tell you, before clicking on this video link, I became EXTREMELY skeptical.
pythor2 4 weeks ago
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farvision 4 weeks ago
So do they have to wear those things every day for the rest of their life in order to keep the tumors from coming back?
Bendo13 4 weeks ago
uhm well i guess i have to agree @freesk8 here, i don't really get why cell division of normal cells isn't affected, they still reproduce, don't they? can't this lead to necrotic normal tissues or at least reduced wound regeneration or something like that?
@Nyphur wouldn't people who didn't respond to treatment and are left to die be a controlgroup?
TheBattlecake 4 weeks ago
Wow, low level electrical fields disrupt cell division? This kills cancer cells because they are rapidly dividing. But we live in low level electric fields all day. We sit near computers. Our houses have electrical wires. etc. Could this be damaging our healthy cells when they divide? I don't know!!!
freesk8 4 weeks ago
@freesk8 I think I want to start sleeping in a Gaussian cage. I want to find some shielding somewhere...
freesk8 4 weeks ago
Wait a minute, watch from 08:22 again. He took patients who had not responded to conventional treatment, gave half the chemo again and half the new field treatment. ... There's no control group.
Patients were selected that didn't respond to chemo. That means the first group given chemo again may not be expected to respond. As the field treatment got the same result as that group, that might mean it doesn't work. The lack of side-effects doesn't mean anything if the treatment doesn't work. : /
Nyphur 4 weeks ago
@Nyphur good observation and critical thinking here. but the point here is, it seems to be promising in terms of results given. now it is only reasonable to test this thoroughly.
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@Nyphur I was thinking the same exact thing.
VellianoRosso 4 weeks ago
what about Royal Rife? am i mistaken .... his work sounds similar
curtly99 4 weeks ago
How come there is no TED Talk on how to treat cancer with prayer???
(END SARCASM.)
sp00x 4 weeks ago
I remain skeptical of this.
Leifthrasir 4 weeks ago
There is no publication of the cited phase III trials on medline. Even the homepage of the company only cites one feasibility study, one publication explaining the concept and a couple of scientific abstracts.
I am sorry, but I am quite shure that this therapy does not work at all.
alfkeh 4 weeks ago 24
@alfkeh Until we see it in the real world, being used by people who both survive their cancer and live happy lives during and after.
Skepticism is good, but this guy's presenting to TED. I cannot assume it works and it's real, but he's risking a HUGE public shit storm if it actually doesn't work. Let the work survive or fall on its own merit.
LithiumLogica 4 weeks ago
@alfkeh How would you explain the recovery of Robert? Just a coincidence?
BR3WKR3W8 4 weeks ago
@BR3WKR3W8 Spontaneous remissions happen occasionally, and if you run enough bullshit studies you'll get one or two to use as case studies. People are right to be skeptical when he uses two specific cases as evidence in the talk instead of showing the raw results of the entire trial.
Nyphur 4 weeks ago
@alfkeh I have found the full paper that they guy talks about. Go to google scholar and search for " Tumor Treating Fields" . The first hit should get you want you want. On the Proceedings of the national academy of science website you can even access the full paper :)
bogdanbelcea 4 weeks ago 42
@alfkeh
Have you considered that this might still be in such early phases of research that publications have not been released yet? Science takes time...it's an arduous process but it works. Give them a little more time.
andyrooney12 3 weeks ago
Why isn't anyone clapping? :-(
flipinchicago 4 weeks ago
so...if i start smoking and get cancer I can be saved now?
ExclusiveManual 4 weeks ago
Go ahead science don't be afraid to say it... "MAG-NET-IC Fields"
MrLesWhite 4 weeks ago
Did anyone else saw TTF and thought True Type Font? #Geekgasm
malc623 4 weeks ago
i do believe Royal Raymond Rife already developed this in the 1940s but was censored and suppressed
Alkom 4 weeks ago
I don't claim to know anything, but I've done a lot of research on health an nutrition. I'm pretty positive that after all I've seen and read, a plant and fruit based diet is the way to go.
lemondrop2012 4 weeks ago
@lemondrop2012 Sorry, what? How do we get from the subject matter of this video to prosthelytizing on veganism?
DrSpooglemon 4 weeks ago
@lemondrop2012 Cancer cells love good food as much as good cells. The good food theory is likely only valid to help people without cancer stay that way.
iamufreak 4 weeks ago
@iamufreak I'm sure the better one eats the less chance of contracting cancer. YES? Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
rocknrobyn888 4 weeks ago
@rocknrobyn888 Yes, good foods may be preventative. But prevention is not a cure. Eating the right foods so your blood stream has the right PH is also believed to lower the risk. Personally, I'd rather they find the cure than hope what I eat lowers my risk, just in case lowering my risk from 20% to 5% did not quite do the trick because I'm not very lucky so 5% over a lifetime is still an unacceptable risk IMO.
iamufreak 4 weeks ago
@lemondrop2012 oh really, the cult of nature is a false dichotomy
sausage4mash 4 weeks ago
I love how in medicine, they make a distinction between a magnetic field and an magnetically charged electric field simply because one uses physical magnets and the other uses electric fields.
In physics, they are the same exact phenomena.
sexyloser 4 weeks ago 35
@sexyloser Not at all, only in light are they intertwined. You can have one without having the other and they have distinct properties. Magnetic fields have no monopoles, act on charges in a cross product fashion and as a function of the speed of the charge.
Vellwander 4 weeks ago
@sexyloser Unfortunately, due to your youtube name your comment is insignificant.
BR3WKR3W8 4 weeks ago
@sexyloser Does that mean that it would work just as good if you just stick big strong magnets to your head?
ecvanbrussel 3 weeks ago
So quack medicine is now proven to work. Who would have thought.
iamufreak 4 weeks ago 2
Wouldn't this also cause cell death for healthy dividing cells? Or do healthy cells simply divide infrequently enough that those cell deaths cause negligible side effects in the patient?
songteller 4 weeks ago 2
@songteller
For cells that don't replicate, they'll never be affected. For cells that do replicate, they will replicate enough for any damage to be repaired with no issue.
dudejohnny 4 weeks ago
Hm.....I have seen many GBM-patients (work as a neurologist), and this is very interesting.
Ko252 4 weeks ago
As mentioned above, there are some mistakes in his lectures. One, it is an electromagnetic field, not electric. Second, apoptosis is cell suicide.
Ko252 4 weeks ago
I want to know more!
ThoughtfulGeek 4 weeks ago
Could this be the future of cancer treatment??
2degucitas 4 weeks ago
@2degucitas depends on how far you want to look in the future.
stijnhaki 4 weeks ago
Orbiting spacecrafts are in a gravitational field; they are in freefall.
iviewthetube 4 weeks ago
Epic.
TorontoLibertarian 4 weeks ago
Plant based diet or don't bother with these second best methods.
DanielManahan 4 weeks ago
hemp seed oil actually cures cancer but it's illegal
IoDecay 4 weeks ago
@IoDecay
Weird, So does Sour Sop. So the cure has been in nature the whole time.. us humans have just been too ignorant.
Kinglushkush 4 weeks ago
@Kinglushkush lols ,you're supremely ignorant ! *face palm *
sausage4mash 4 weeks ago
@IoDecay Congrats. You just won the stupidest comment on youtube award!
papasitoman 4 weeks ago
@papasitoman lols.I'm afraid he's the general public , tabloid newspapers and a diet of banal TV it's sending the whole world stupid ,lols , I'm not educated myself but I have a basic Idea how shit works IE basic science ,these people have no clue and I've noticed a lot of them on TED recently .we must man the trenches against the onslaught of stupid :)
sausage4mash 4 weeks ago
@IoDecay that's a bold statement. Can you back it up with facts?
SuperAtheist 4 weeks ago
its not magnetism... its like gravity... *facepalm*
RoySchl 4 weeks ago
How about treating cancer with DIET?! Stop eating Animal based diets and eat a Plant and Fruit based Diet?! Plenty of evidence to back it up.
lemondrop2012 4 weeks ago
@lemondrop2012 ..where?
IoDecay 4 weeks ago
@IoDecay Oh why not watch " Fork over Knives " for starters. I found it to be very informative with lots of studies to back up a plant based diet. Check it out for your self.
lemondrop2012 4 weeks ago
@lemondrop2012 Please, provide evidence.
MihaZ 4 weeks ago
I thought Gerson Therapy is one of the best option
meis 4 weeks ago
Read my previous comment!
War against cancer with drugs... early or late? Fail. Cancer won mostly.
War against cancer with radiation and chemo... Early? Ok results. Late, epic fail most die.
War against cancer with vegan diet... Early or late, Strong pass results.
Diet is the cause of cancer mostly.
TheaDragonSpirit 4 weeks ago
What the feck! Treat cancer thats caused by radiation? chemicals? stress? bad diet? with electrics which cause radiation? That's my first though. Radiation does not work. I recommend if you have cancer. Go vegan... for a month eating mostly vitamin a foods, and green juices. Then going on a water fast for a month and that will help you remove a lot of the toxic crap in your body out of your body. This works. And is well known to work. Then you go back on green juice... then on to a vegan diet
TheaDragonSpirit 4 weeks ago
@TheaDragonSpirit "eating mostly vitamin a foods"
Yes, of course, feed the cancer cells with vitamins.
siegfried182005 4 weeks ago
This is amazing, but he said it has no effect on non-dividing cells in the body. That's all very well and good, but there are lots of cells in my body that are supposed to divide. What about them?
DeoMachina 4 weeks ago 2
@DeoMachina Oh no, the side effect might be longevity.
Mornys 4 weeks ago
@DeoMachina
I'm guessing that the effect on healthy cells is far less pronounced because they divide far less often. The defining attribute of cancer is of course it's extremely rapid cell division rate.
ionz75 4 weeks ago
To all those criticizing this talk...If he presented this as a highly technical one, 99.99 % of the viewers would not have any idea what he was talking about. Accept that he has "dumbed" this down for...well, probably you.
azcentralsurprise 4 weeks ago
I am suspicious.
SAsgarters 4 weeks ago
What about sour sop? It has been known to kill cancer cells. Anybody else heard of sour sop?
Kinglushkush 4 weeks ago
stopped watching it after 2 minutes. this guy is an idiot, there is no such thing as an electric field. only electromagnetic fields which is what he is supposed to say but obviously if he doesnt know something basic like that then he doesnt know what he is talking about, he isnt even the person that created anything the guy in israel did. and even then its nothing new its been used for other things like kidney stones and the tech has gotten better and more precise to target cancerous regions
white8ass8kika 4 weeks ago
@white8ass8kika maybe he's trying to distance this tech from the people who use magnets?
BTW is there a difference between his method and using a powerful magnet?
SuperAtheist 4 weeks ago
this is not new, bob beck came up with this protocol years ago.
ADULTEDUCATION4U 4 weeks ago
The subject matter is interesting enough, but this is the most boring TED talk I have watched...
DrSpooglemon 4 weeks ago
how does ttf affect the division of normal cells? (must have missed that)
theANSWERisXLII 4 weeks ago
@theANSWERisXLII the same way but your normal cells in the infected area don't need to divide and don't as fast as the cancer cells.So it would be tough to say weight lift and use this therapy. He does say it doesnt effect normal cells. but the normal cells arent dividing as fast and as often.
philosophyman76 4 weeks ago
@philosophyman76 ok but after a year of that treatment the same effect has to be seen on normal cells... that's probably why they chose brain cancer - loss of bunch more cells in an area of brain that's been butchered probably isn't so noticeable, same with lungs - small decline in capacity is nothing ...collateral damage i guess
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Shredderof7Seas 4 weeks ago
@Shredderof7Seas Just because there are good alternatives to meat does not necessarily mean that vegetables can replace every nutrient found in meat. Humans are naturally omnivores; we have canines, don't we?
wikipedia. org/wiki/Meat#Health -- Eating processed meat and meat you find in most stores is bad for you, but if you limit to fish and the occasional organic chicken, you'll increase your lifespan. Interestingly, vegans had the same mortality as regular meat eaters. Balance > extremes.
GeekProdigyGuy 3 weeks ago
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Shredderof7Seas 3 weeks ago
@Shredderof7Seas ...and yet it could be argued that the high rates of cancer, obesity and disease are a result of high life expectancies, which is another thing that seems to coincide with high meat and dairy intake. Your problem is a classic logical fallacy; correlation does not equate causation. Also, try googling "The Naive Vegetarian". Check out the first result.
SantaBJ 3 weeks ago
/watch?v=DtVqsr4-CWQ
seems relative - balancing fields and so forth
cjl85uk 4 weeks ago
How much would it cost?
Alpinex105 4 weeks ago
Look up Rife Ray therapy, Pharmaceutical giants and medical associations would go to any disgusting extent to earn big bucks
warmaker911 4 weeks ago
FUCK CANCER!
I wish we would spend all of our money on solving cancer/heart decease and the energy crisis (china and india are gonna fuck our shit up)
tgseason12 4 weeks ago
@tgseason12
prevention over cure... prevention comes from education, from care, from peace, from freedom, from love.... where are our taxes going though?
we are a cancer.
cjl85uk 4 weeks ago