3) I'd recommend any professional who has to work on various workstations and various operating systems to avoid getting used to this (un)natural default setting and turn it off as soon as possible, or else you'll end up getting used to Apple's way and not the way that everyone else has been doing it for years (exceptions for Magic Trackpad which is a whole new kind of device).
My thoughts: 1) It's very arrogant for Apple to take something that has been industry standard for decades now, with no one ever complaining to the contrary that scroll wheels are counterintuitive, and suddenly flip their whole freaking OS. 2) People without a technical background assume that flipping the OS for touch devices like Magic Trackpad was Apple's only option. They could have just flipped their touch devices, deeerp!
Nono! Remember the Mac mantra: "Think Different", remember? Especially, regarding compatibility! If it's compatible, it's not different. EVERYTHING MUST BE DIFFERENT! What? You're annoyed because every Apple release reinvents the wheel again a diff way? That's because Apple can't manage to ever get it right the first time...or second time...or the third...or...Just make it Different. If I wanted ergonomics & logical systems I'd have a PC! I want FRUSTRATION, so I bought a Mac! Macs suck!
I'm using a macbook 4 years old.. i just upgrade to OX lion.. how can i disable invert scrolling, its not the same window as u show here.. not even the option!
i agree with the inverted scrolling but i am using a macbook pro. works really well with the large trackpad. but i do have to complain a little. scrolling works really well but in games zooming is DAMN MESSED UP. i wish apple created a shortcut on switching the scrolling so playing games won't require me to go into system prefs every time. I tried creating a short cut myself but so far no luck
why is it on Lion my trackpad window does not look like anyone elses. I do not seem to have instead the columns you have of point & click, scroll and zoom and more gestures I have two columns titled tracking spee and double clic speed
@tjasko1 Thanks for getting in touch. I did disable the Lion trackpad set up but now want to return to the Lion way of doing it and I can't see how to get back to the original Lion installation set up for a trackpad
For all those with 3rd party mouse with scroll wheel on a desktop computer: there is no way to switch off natural scrolling. but there is a workaround! download the free tool "scroll reverser". It is actually a tool to emulate natural scrolling when you work with snow leopard. In Lion, it gives you the old fashioned scroll style back!
@tjasko1 What computer do you have? I have a Mac Mini Intel Core 2 Duo. Mouse Control Panel gives only option "Tracking Speed", "Double-Click Speed" and "Primay Mouse Button" plus a button "Set Up Bluetooth Mouse". The Trackpad Control Panel: "Turn Bluetooth on." No trackpad found.
I have a mac mini and using a 3rd party mouse with scroll wheel. no way for me to switch off natural scrolling. when i want to change the trackpad prefs, it says that i dont have a trackpad. under mouse prefs, also nothing to change. that is so stupid. probably apple want me to buy a trackpad?
The problem is the fact its FORCED TO USE IT upon start up you when you begin. I agree 100% with everything you said. Yes you can change it but it's not strait-forward . The MOUSE settings make no sense ' direction of finger movement' is DOWN IS DOWN, which is bad
Wow this answered two questions. One was touring to figure out if you could disable invert and I figured out that you could a different mouse instead of that magic mouse. This video saved me a lot of money.
this makes steve jobs a moron. You want to make it easy for people to switch from windows to mac? or even 10.6 to 10.7? Then dont change one of the most fundamental things about operating system navigation....
i don't have a track pad so i can't access this option. why the fuck does it only work for people with trackpads? the guy just showed his mouse and he was able to do it. WTF!
@FreaksEntertainment ok i figured out our problem. goto mouse in settings and uncheck the box that says something like "move content in the direct of the finger" or some shit and it worked.
Hey whats up. I followed your steps but...when I switched the pad to natural scrolling, it reverses the mouse to be inverted. When I switch the mouse back to natural scrolling, it switches the track pad back to invert!! SO WIERD!! Seems as though I can't have both to be natural scrolling. Help me out here bro. Thanks.
Nobody is used to inverted scrolling, so why add it? Also, what application is between Dream Weaver and Premiere on your dock? Lol and one more thing, could you explain to me what "Chromium" exactly is?
@abnercus I agree, and it's more for mobile devices anyway. The orange icon is Adobe Illustrator. It's used for vector art. :) - Chromium in the "bleeding edge" version of Google Chrome. It has some bugs here and there, but it's the latest and greatest stuff.
@tjasko1 Ahh, I see. Well, I'm trying to get into development like you, so...does Chromium have anything to do w/ development? Probably not I'm guessing. I've spent a lot of my time dedicated to editing, PS, AE, Screenflow, FCPX, things like that. So I just wanted to start web development like you!
@abnercus Ha, I've been developing for nine years... every time I say that I feel old. lol - anyways, Chromium is the development version. The only reason why I have it is I help out with the project (been a Chromium/Chrome user ever since the very early builds)...
@tjasko1 meh, I downgraded... can't even use the function key anymore (affects gaming).. Expose was much better for switching applications. the only think i really liked about Lion was the scrollbars, oh that Aqua..
3) I'd recommend any professional who has to work on various workstations and various operating systems to avoid getting used to this (un)natural default setting and turn it off as soon as possible, or else you'll end up getting used to Apple's way and not the way that everyone else has been doing it for years (exceptions for Magic Trackpad which is a whole new kind of device).
stinky472 1 day ago
My thoughts: 1) It's very arrogant for Apple to take something that has been industry standard for decades now, with no one ever complaining to the contrary that scroll wheels are counterintuitive, and suddenly flip their whole freaking OS. 2) People without a technical background assume that flipping the OS for touch devices like Magic Trackpad was Apple's only option. They could have just flipped their touch devices, deeerp!
stinky472 1 day ago
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Nono! Remember the Mac mantra: "Think Different", remember? Especially, regarding compatibility! If it's compatible, it's not different. EVERYTHING MUST BE DIFFERENT! What? You're annoyed because every Apple release reinvents the wheel again a diff way? That's because Apple can't manage to ever get it right the first time...or second time...or the third...or...Just make it Different. If I wanted ergonomics & logical systems I'd have a PC! I want FRUSTRATION, so I bought a Mac! Macs suck!
wakka10128 3 weeks ago
Thankyou!
presidentsnookaroo 1 month ago
Thank you brother, you made my life easier. Nice video, no bullshit, very functional.
Great work!
Cheers!
dodorey 2 months ago
Thanks
SwanginNBanginENT 2 months ago
thank you so much!
ZOEYLEON88 2 months ago
whats the deal with this invert thing.. lion mac os x is good but that new feature is whack.. thnxx 4 the video dude.. it help me a lot
emo6hamster93 3 months ago
it doesn't work for me it just says searching for Bluetooth track pad
nulk1 3 months ago
lol i have that same mouse
nulk1 3 months ago
Remember when Apple was a pariah, yeah all you PC users suck it!
bigjohn377 3 months ago
I don't think its "natural" because when everyone scrolled down to go down it went up confusing the best of us.
antimattermatters 3 months ago
Thanks a bunch. This was super helpful. The inverted scrolling made absolutely no sense to me.
sandibrooke 4 months ago
I'm using a macbook 4 years old.. i just upgrade to OX lion.. how can i disable invert scrolling, its not the same window as u show here.. not even the option!
andres88ec 4 months ago
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Thanks for the video this video
sttrier 4 months ago
thank you new friend! disabled..
Th3Wab3 4 months ago
i downloaded a torrent of the new OSX, and the preferences dont give me the option to disable the inversion, what do i do??
alb3rt525 5 months ago
@alb3rt525 buy the actual OS.
krzycon 5 months ago
i agree with the inverted scrolling but i am using a macbook pro. works really well with the large trackpad. but i do have to complain a little. scrolling works really well but in games zooming is DAMN MESSED UP. i wish apple created a shortcut on switching the scrolling so playing games won't require me to go into system prefs every time. I tried creating a short cut myself but so far no luck
iamterence77 6 months ago
why is it on Lion my trackpad window does not look like anyone elses. I do not seem to have instead the columns you have of point & click, scroll and zoom and more gestures I have two columns titled tracking spee and double clic speed
andrewjnp 6 months ago
@andrewjnp Read the description.
tjasko1 6 months ago
@tjasko1 Thanks for getting in touch. I did disable the Lion trackpad set up but now want to return to the Lion way of doing it and I can't see how to get back to the original Lion installation set up for a trackpad
andrewjnp 6 months ago
i hate all gestures.
CRYOmine 6 months ago
For all those with 3rd party mouse with scroll wheel on a desktop computer: there is no way to switch off natural scrolling. but there is a workaround! download the free tool "scroll reverser". It is actually a tool to emulate natural scrolling when you work with snow leopard. In Lion, it gives you the old fashioned scroll style back!
Google pilotmoon scrollreverser
santschopantscho 6 months ago
@santschopantscho Worked fine for me without using any third part software. And I'm using the Logitech LX8. :)
tjasko1 6 months ago
@tjasko1 What computer do you have? I have a Mac Mini Intel Core 2 Duo. Mouse Control Panel gives only option "Tracking Speed", "Double-Click Speed" and "Primay Mouse Button" plus a button "Set Up Bluetooth Mouse". The Trackpad Control Panel: "Turn Bluetooth on." No trackpad found.
santschopantscho 6 months ago
I have a mac mini and using a 3rd party mouse with scroll wheel. no way for me to switch off natural scrolling. when i want to change the trackpad prefs, it says that i dont have a trackpad. under mouse prefs, also nothing to change. that is so stupid. probably apple want me to buy a trackpad?
santschopantscho 6 months ago
Could you do a dock tour? You have some pretty interesting Adobe apps down there Lol.
abnercus 6 months ago
I hate natural scroll! Missed the ball on this one.
23pellmell 6 months ago
The problem is the fact its FORCED TO USE IT upon start up you when you begin. I agree 100% with everything you said. Yes you can change it but it's not strait-forward . The MOUSE settings make no sense ' direction of finger movement' is DOWN IS DOWN, which is bad
Adv2k169 7 months ago
Mac is FUCKING STUPID!
Yes, because I really wanna scroll down to go up, and scroll up to go down...wow are the software creators like fucking bored or something?
How do I change it back from this shitty lion ass shit fucken shit??
mzarate1017 7 months ago
Nope, cant stand it. I gave it a chance, but nooooo. Thanks for the video
xFlyersx28 7 months ago
changing how scrolling works breaks the user model on such an epic level. How this got through QA is beyond me.
QueenBishy 7 months ago
Wow this answered two questions. One was touring to figure out if you could disable invert and I figured out that you could a different mouse instead of that magic mouse. This video saved me a lot of money.
TheSkullcrusher73 7 months ago
OMG i have a imac i CANT CHANGE IT!
subconnect 7 months ago
@subconnect Read the important section.
tjasko1 7 months ago
@tjasko1 sorry i found this out right after i posted that comment
subconnect 7 months ago
@subconnect It's fine. :)
tjasko1 7 months ago
Thanks! I looked at that menu for like 15 min looking how to change the inverted scroll, did not expect it to be called natural scrolling...
MacFromTO 7 months ago
@MacFromTO Anytime! Yeah, I didn't expect for them to call it natural scrolling either.
tjasko1 7 months ago
I hate it and my trackpad control panel still looks like it did in 10.6; with no scrolling and zoom tab!
wraithofwonder 7 months ago
@wraithofwonder We had some problems stated like this in the comments. Read the important section in the video description!
tjasko1 7 months ago
this makes steve jobs a moron. You want to make it easy for people to switch from windows to mac? or even 10.6 to 10.7? Then dont change one of the most fundamental things about operating system navigation....
decmasta 7 months ago
@decmasta And I agree, but they always say everything is "revolutionary". I guess Apple can be away with being different... "Think Different". :P
tjasko1 7 months ago
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decmasta 7 months ago
i don't have a track pad so i can't access this option. why the fuck does it only work for people with trackpads? the guy just showed his mouse and he was able to do it. WTF!
twistedkatana1 7 months ago
I don't have a trackpad so I can't even access the settings how can I change it now?
FreaksEntertainment 7 months ago 2
@FreaksEntertainment ok i figured out our problem. goto mouse in settings and uncheck the box that says something like "move content in the direct of the finger" or some shit and it worked.
twistedkatana1 7 months ago
@twistedkatana1 Thanks for the tip @twistedkatana1! Added it to the video description... I knew something like this would happen. :)
tjasko1 7 months ago
Hey whats up. I followed your steps but...when I switched the pad to natural scrolling, it reverses the mouse to be inverted. When I switch the mouse back to natural scrolling, it switches the track pad back to invert!! SO WIERD!! Seems as though I can't have both to be natural scrolling. Help me out here bro. Thanks.
tH3bUdDAH 7 months ago
@tH3bUdDAH Weird!? I have no clue... try a reboot or something? :)
tjasko1 7 months ago
@tjasko1 Let me rephrase what I said. It reverses the side scrolling on the track pad and not the invert also rebooting didn't fix the problem. =T
tH3bUdDAH 7 months ago
Nobody is used to inverted scrolling, so why add it? Also, what application is between Dream Weaver and Premiere on your dock? Lol and one more thing, could you explain to me what "Chromium" exactly is?
Thanks!
abnercus 7 months ago
@abnercus I agree, and it's more for mobile devices anyway. The orange icon is Adobe Illustrator. It's used for vector art. :) - Chromium in the "bleeding edge" version of Google Chrome. It has some bugs here and there, but it's the latest and greatest stuff.
tjasko1 7 months ago
@tjasko1 Cool, and where would I download chromium?
abnercus 7 months ago
@abnercus Warning you, it's not for the faint of heart people. It's updated at least 30+ times a day. bit (dot) ly (/) r1ptuP
tjasko1 7 months ago
@tjasko1 Ahh, I see. Well, I'm trying to get into development like you, so...does Chromium have anything to do w/ development? Probably not I'm guessing. I've spent a lot of my time dedicated to editing, PS, AE, Screenflow, FCPX, things like that. So I just wanted to start web development like you!
abnercus 7 months ago
@abnercus Ha, I've been developing for nine years... every time I say that I feel old. lol - anyways, Chromium is the development version. The only reason why I have it is I help out with the project (been a Chromium/Chrome user ever since the very early builds)...
tjasko1 7 months ago
@tjasko1 Lol, cool!
abnercus 7 months ago
@tjasko1 lol stfu. You look like a 14yo with down syndrome. 9 years developing my ass.
alanpro18 7 months ago
@alanpro18 I'm 18. And you know what you are? An immature YouTuber. Blocked!
tjasko1 7 months ago
If I was on a laptop or a mobile device I could see where inverted scrolling would work, but as far as on a desktop I would disable it.
TheBenSanders 7 months ago
Lion doesn't deserve the title of a new OS.
AnHeroDesu 7 months ago
@AnHeroDesu I don't know... maybe it does. Think it just needs time.
tjasko1 7 months ago
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AnHeroDesu 7 months ago
@tjasko1 meh, I downgraded... can't even use the function key anymore (affects gaming).. Expose was much better for switching applications. the only think i really liked about Lion was the scrollbars, oh that Aqua..
AnHeroDesu 7 months ago
BetterTouchTool was great for the track pad. I miss 3 finger scroll to go back. Update soon.
MrJovetta 7 months ago
@MrJovetta I agree, I actually have it installed and I just saw the update for Lion compatibility.
tjasko1 7 months ago
Thx man, I am used to the old way. Lion is awesome though. But its good to have the feature for those who like it.
MrJovetta 7 months ago
@MrJovetta It is awesome, but I'm glad they added the feature to turn off their new scrolling features.
tjasko1 7 months ago
Cool
thetechfixer 7 months ago
That resolution... :P
I'm already used to natural scrolling. I had a plugin in Snow Leopard that reversed the scrolling.
woods72 7 months ago
@woods72 Well, yeah, but I just don't find it nice.
tjasko1 7 months ago